Why Do People Like Suikoden So Much?

[@thejmr]

When you dive in the Suikoden universe there is no going back lol

[@nellioclark7571]

Totally agree!

[@88games86]

Haha very true

[@tenkaistar1089]

Yes!!!

[@diaochan7506]

Yes this is true, until now Suikoden still in my mind for rpg...have many mystery unanswered hanging in my mind and other things.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

And now Suikoden 1 & 2 are back with a remaster!

[@Garium87]

Am I The only one who loved the aspect that you became a leader? You could lead armies and most of all, you had a stronghold that you could name and improve by recruiting people. Creating a home for yourself and your people.

[@Damienov]

You're not the only one

[@rorkirbabtista9429]

That was before its time, when I experienced the same in Skyrim and Dragon Age 3 it wasn't as exiting as it should have been.

[@planescaped]

North Window/Dunan Castle is my favorite base in all gaming still.

[@kpbriann]

Suikoden 2 basically defines my childhood.. the style, music and the gameplay was just all spot on.. I stopped playing video games recently but will be playing Eiyuden when it releases

[@nellioclark7571]

Yes, Suikoden 2 is still to this day one of my favorite games, alongside Xenogears, the Mass Effect trilogy, Persona 3 and 5, just to name a few. I'm a sucker for unforgettable characters and an amazing story.

[@88games86]

Yeah me too. That does seem to be the case for a lot of people. Something about the series really hits home and stays with you!

[@PanjiAditya90]

I remember watching that opening credits right after Riou & Jowy jumped. That second I realized I'll be having an epic story.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

And now Suikoden 1 & 2 are back with a remaster!

[@jstorm858]

the story, the music, the battle system, the features and the nostalgia

[@kingoverseas9052]

The soundtracks! The music is incredible and I think plays a huge part as to why I wax nostalgia for this game, it has left me with everlasting thoughts of characters and locations. Thanks again for another video, I may have to consider visiting your twitch sometime!

[@MiamiSunrise]

Yes absolutely! There are a lot of kind of unimportant feeling tracks in these games but for whatever reason they stick with you. I can hear the theme from Gregminster in Suikoden 1 in my head fluently and I haven't played that game in years now. The music is very important.

[@Kris95x]

Yes, lots of fans actually asked if Miki Higashino, who created music for Suikodens, could partecipate to Eiyuden Chronicle, which Is Suikoden's spiritual successor. Sadly, this couldn't happen since Higashino retired. Let's Hope music Is good because It plays a huge part in games.

[@88games86]

Hey! Yeah come say hi on Twitch. I'm alternating between speed running Suikoden 1 and casual playing Suikoden 2 at the moment. And yeah, the music does feel like something that I should've added into the video really, definitely deserved a mention

[@88games86]

@@MiamiSunrise Yeah totally agree, the soundtrack really does stick with you!

[@StewNWT]

YESSSS! I actually transcribed a lot of this music to piano sheet. I don't have much on my channel but do have Knights of the Dragons den there. I actually did one year's competitive figure skating routine to 'Forgotten Day/Village of the Hidden Rune' as I bought the original CD soundtrack. Mt Seifu, Leknaat's Isle, Theme of Unsettling Discovery, Lakeside Kouan, The Elven Forest, Antei's Village of the People, Forgotten Days, the Dragon Knights Den, Warrior's Village, Neclord's Pasacaria, and MY GOD... the Theme of Sadness. Oh the theme of Sadness... I cried at all 4 Soul Eater Deaths.

[@IricAlexis]

what really hit me is Suikoden 2 Nanami, I remember when meeting her at the first time she made the hero mark on the ground as a funny gag (by crashing the hero and then drag him.. XD), but in the middle of the game when we can run away with her but we have to keep going for some reason... (to see the real end) she choose to keep supporting the hero, and when u reach castle level 4, u can see her room full of practicing tools, and u read a letter and heard the rumors that she keep practicing in the middle of the night showing that she really tries to do her best to protect/support the hero. and to give the final touch... she dead while protecting the hero... T_T (yes i know we can save her with best end but still). since this time Suikoden always remain deep in my mind as the best game that delivers such a deep story.

[@88games86]

Yeah Nanami is definitely an awesome character. You really get a sense of her inner-conflict throughout the game as she struggles with wanting to get away from the war but also knowing that her brother has his duty. Just one great example of character development throughout the series, but definitely an important one

[@IricAlexis]

@@88games86 yeah but contrary, where I do feel Nanami is great but not so with half part of the Suikoden 2 story (especially after beating necklord the second time) i think after that point is pointless. that "duty" u mention is sound BS to me personally, since the start, I can understand the hero motivation to defeat Luca Blight, but after his defeat, I really didn't have enough reason to keep continuing other than want to see the ending. for me either ruled by the Hero/Jowy or another person (since in the best end, hero, jowy and nanami is leaving) it doesn't really matter since I know Jowy won't do much damage like Luca is. but people keep pushing the hero like they will lose much if the hero leaves. (and that people is Shu... where at the start he rejects hero offer by saying BS like he said it's doesn't matter who rules, money is the truth BS) I honestly want to escape with Nanami since it makes sense for me (except i want to beat necklord first then run away) since the start, the war is triggered by Luca and he is now a dead man, when the hero goes to Muse and Jowy ask him to surrender, I really think this is a pointless fight and want to surrender, (i also agree with Jowy making peace is not the solution since if there is still Highland and City state they will be a war next time) but ofc... victor must get his spotlight time and rescue? the hero. I also always see Nanami "resurrection" kinda BS since how 108-star destiny linked to the hero can/cannot save her (not like Suikoden 1 when it's literary give Leknat the power to do that, and that also one time only as Leknat says it) but in Suikoden 2 it's never shown Leknat or hero use their power, how TF Dr. Huan can/cannot save her because 108-star destiny is beyond me. we can only assume the hero tries to use BSR to heal Nanami that affects her recovery but it's never really shown since the hero chose to battle Gorudo instead where I think Jowy can defeat him alone (normally the scene will say "save her I will take care of this" or so but no...) and worse, after that, the hero only see her dead scene.. literary... he has one of true rune with so much healing power but ofc the hero doing nothing and have to see her death scene... so for me, I always see that continuing pointless war between Hero and Jowy just resulting Nanami dead (honestly didn't care other char like riddle or kiba that much compared to nanami), yes highland have a problem with Harmonia want to resurrect beast rune but the city-state also has an issue like genkaku issue, racist, selfish, etc. (i think this is the major issue why Jowy chose Highland side since in his last time in city-state he saw they are selfish being that makes a priority for their own state in Muse city meeting. and people said the hero unite them... but in the "best ending".. the hero leaves them with Jowy and Nanami... so will they have civil war again after that?)

[@IricAlexis]

@@88games86 ah.. sorry for rambling about this it's been long time since i talk about suikoden.

[@nellioclark7571]

@@IricAlexis Its all good! You really showcase your love for the game. And that's what it's all about in the end. Luca Blight was horrible. My dude was tough as nails, he took on three separate groups, on top of all those volleys of arrows. He was a beast, I hated his guts, but he was a beast. Reading everybody's comments always makes me wanna go back and play it again. The nostalgia is realllll. Lol.

[@sumaameri]

why do people like suikoden: half of the fandom: jeane... the other half of the fandom: viki!

[@88games86]

Hehe, you're not wrong :)

[@sumaameri]

@Katone Vi you know my comment was a joke ..yeah? #sarcasm

[@SeventhheavenDK]

I like Nina and Cleo. Lol. :)

[@CasualGeek-je1mm]

I'm for Team Jeane definitely

[@CasaUwU]

mukumuku team

[@titanhades4331]

I loved how characters which seemed to be throw away characters would come back with a vengeance and get expanded on, using history that was hinted on (Georg, Killy, Lorelai, Luc, Clive) Remember how in 2 Richmond mentioned how Georg had a hand in murdering a Queen in the south? Or how he mentioned Lorelai and Killy having a past with each other? Or when Luc used the power of the true Wind rune in 2 and started a plotline with Sasari that would be rapped up in 3? Heck, Luc in general going from a minor/major ally in 1 and 2 to the big bad in 3. And 4 showing why Ted was older then he should have been.

[@88games86]

Yeah the continuity throughout the series is awesome and definitely helps to flesh out the characters across the different games. You really feel like they're actual people living their lives in the Suiko world and it's great!

[@Sevish]

Here's another reason I love it. The whole game can be played with your left hand because the accept and cancel options are mapped to L1 and L2. Thereby freeing up the right hand to hold a character recruitment FAQ, spliff or otherwise

[@Sevish]

By the way Mr 88 I recently checked out your speed run of Suikoden I after discovering you through another Eiyuden video. Exceptional work - I enjoyed!!

[@88games86]

@@Sevish Ah thank you so much! That's awesome. Also, totally agree on the being able to play with one hand thing. Such a lazy-man convenience lol

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Yeah, that was great, I remember eating cookies while playing the game, as a child an even now too. XD

[@planescaped]

The thing that always set Suikoden apart for me and made the series special was the continuity. The shared characters, events, plotlines and world between the games made it feel so much more special and worth getting invested into than having every new game be a completely stand alone thing like how most JRPG's were and still are.

[@nixxu3546]

you will like Suikoden if you only play one of the game, if you play two of them, you will love Suikoden, and if you play all of them you will cherish and care about these game so much that even you wont mind that spend your 2-3 decades of your lives speaking about Suikoden

[@1234tbent]

It also is good at leaving you wanting more. For example Pesmerga and Yuber. That would be a good video.

[@88games86]

Yeah they definitely know when to just show you a little bit of a much large story. I would love to know more about the Pesmerga / Yuber conflict

[@shtshw]

^^^^ THIS THIS THIS AND MORE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nellioclark7571]

I wonder why they've never built a game centered around them yet?

[@betacrest10]

Loved it when Viktor got his revenge on that vampire Neclord.

[@Myrope]

That was so satisfying! I love Viktor

[@SeventhheavenDK]

I like all of them, especially Suikoden 2 and 5. Funny enough, Nina is my favorite character in the entire franchise. Sir Flik!!! XD

[@RockaByeYT]

It incorporates a variety of themes that is intricately established in the narrative and its subsequent mini games and sidequests.

[@maloskain]

I'd also add music onto this list. A certain song that plays at a certain prison, and S2 Reminiscence make me emotional to this day.

[@Kris95x]

You sir will help us getting through 2 years for Eiyuden Chronicle just fine. Thank you SO much!

[@88games86]

It's an absolute pleasure! I'm going to try to release one video every week for now, while I'm still very slow at editing, but hopefully more frequently in future!

[@johnbrooke6867]

It's all those things, of course, but I'll mention a couple more The charm of those simple sprites...minimalist and stylized graphics that have maximum impact despite being low poly/pixel. They are just as cool today as they were back then. The music. A great variety of tracks that perfectly set the mood for the Suikoden world. The comedy. These games had some comedy due to translation challenges but much of it was deliberate. The original team clearly have a sense of humor. I mean....flying squirrel combo attacks? A chef fighting with a flying pan? They knew what they doing and they were laughing while doing it. Finally...while building your own army there might be an important life lesson in there about bringing unlikely people together to fight for a brighter future. Some of these characters are difficult to recruit but almost all of them are useful once you get them to join your cause. These games don't look like much on surface but when all the parts come together you have something pretty amazing.

[@johntracy72]

Because they're such epic games especially the first two.

[@extrashifty578]

The fight with Luca Blight, no other game boss has blown my mind as much

[@Banefane]

I only played the first and second game and I still have a lot of good memories regarding the games.

[@Taikaru]

Awesome analysis! I especially agree with the "lower stakes making it feel more believable." That's a key component so many stories miss. Suikoden and Xenogears are the series I've always wanted more continuations of, but I've always wondered why Xenogears doesn't have a more active revival movement, but Suikoden does. For me personally, enthusiasm is on a similar level, if not tipping in Gears favor.

[@ayamylautrec7065]

You nailed it, I've been wanting to play again this series and been watching videos about the lore, and then the algorithm send me this. Nice video

[@neillaw]

Level building, character recruitment, diversity in choice, turn based, world map, it's got the lot

[@falah8555]

I've always believed that out of all the rpgs i played in my life nothing made me truly escape into there world like the suikoden games ... it feels vast and full of people not characters ... the Joey and Ryu story of cruel destiny still hurts every time no matter how many times i see it ... very well done

[@zanedigriz1999]

Suikoden 1 & 2 were two of my favorite rpgs ever. And I've been on RPGs my entire life. This includes BoF1-4, FF series, Xenosaga, etc etc etc etc through decades. Suikoden just stood out. And Number 2 was awesome as well.

[@nicbongo]

Perfect ending for Suikoden 2 is the best ending to any game ever. The bittersweetness and romance of the story the, loyalty, honour and growth of the characters on display is staggering. Amazing writing and story telling.

[@Kris95x]

Unique Battle system! 6 party turn based Battle Is so Cool. That's the best.

[@bimapriambodo450]

thank you, i really love suikoden so much. glad to find a game that similar to suikoden. So excited.

[@maldivirdragonwitch]

Two reasons for me share the number 1 spot: emotion and Miki Higashino's music. Ah... Forever in my heart.

[@hadoo1973]

I got hooked on Suikoden after watching a let's play of suikoden2. Not only was it the best let's play I've watched but the sprites sucked me in. They hold up so well. I recently discovered Persona 2 which is a combination of 2 games that looks a lot like Suikoden 2, and it is giving me the same vibes. I love rpg like this that are essentially timeless. Things like FF7 were great at the time and the game while still good those 3D graphics are just awful. I'm happy to see more games coming out that have the same ascetic like Octopath Traveler and hopefully Eiyuden will live up to the hype.

[@88games86]

Nice! Yeah man, I agree that the sprites of this era hold up much better than early 3D stuff. Like you said, good to see the genre returning to that style with Octopath and now Eiyuden!

[@elternero6624]

SUIKODEN ....AND SPECIALLY SUIKODEN 2 HAS NO EQUAL.... I ... HAVE NO WORDS FOR ITS BEAUTY.... IT CAPTIVATED ME... IT STOLE MY HEART FOREVER....

[@racbirsingh7005]

mini games depth story that pulls you in ) The castle building is awesome

[@nellioclark7571]

I think another thing that you didn't really mention was, well, for me, Suiokden was one of the first games I played where characters died that I cared about. I know FF7 had Aerith. But it was iconic for me when **spoilers for those who have never played some of these games to follow** Gremio sacrificed himself so that the team could get out of Sonier Prison. I think that was the name of that place. And it was the first game that made me angry and actually give me the choice to kill the man who put us in that position. Then there was Pahn. (Funny story, my Grandma played and loved this game too lol, and she did something that made it so after Pahn died fighting your father he was still playable in her game, which I thought was awesome. But both deaths meant something to me and were iconic with that game. Even Odessa and Ted's deaths were all iconic to me. The same goes for Nanami in the 2nd game. After that it lost its touch a bit with 3 where you didn't really care for Chris's father much and as much as I liked that girl who sacrificed herself in Chris's story, I wasnt attached enough for it to really hurt-hurt, ya kno? So that one didn't sting too bad. And 4 I never really cared much for, same for Tactics tho I did finish Tactics. But 5 they bought it back with a vengeance with Lyon. I loveddddd Lyon. And I cared about Sialeeds. I liked his parents but we all kinda saw that coming for him to play a prominent role in the story. Another aspect of Suiokden that I loved was the different battles you could have. I loved the one on one system and I loved the war battles on top of regular stage boss battles. The fact that you got a castle and you could interact with everyone. Cook offs and do plays where you could have characters play roles that were the complete opposite of their characters. I loved being able to put Sid's wierd ass in plays and crack up at his awkwardness in the scene. These games were sooooooo good. And I hope the new one does this series justice. I hate seeing characters I love die but this game does an amazing job when it does it so I hope that trait remains in the new one. Iconic deaths that you will never forget. I love these games with a passion. But those were a few things I would've added to your list. The death aspect I felt was worthy of top 3 criteria. But that's all opinion and every body has their own. But I liked your video, Man. 😜👌 Heres to the new one being amazing too!!

[@88games86]

Hey man, thanks for thoughtful comment! Yeah you're right about the deaths being super impactful. I think that impact comes about as a result of many of the things I mentioned, like the depth each character has and how personal each relationship feels. I think the fact that the deaths have such impact is testament to how well the characters, their relationships and the story were fleshed out and developed. Anyway, thanks again for you thoughts, dude!

[@rdiv]

Spoiler alert: Correction. Pahn dies if he/you lose the duel against Teo. If he/you beat Teo then he survives. Also in Suikoden 1 if you gather all characters, Gremio gets revived by Leknaat. Similarly if you collect all characters in Suikoden2, Nanami survives and is revealed in the end of the game. Basically if you collect all characters in the game, you unlock the secret endings of the games.

[@nellioclark7571]

@@rdiv Oh wow, I didn't know that about Gremio. It's been a while since I played but I don't remember that happening for me. I think my first playthrough... **Quick Spoiler Alert** I killed the flower guy, I was soo mad eventhough he was being mind controlled by the amulet or whatever, I can't remember what it was exactly and dont feel like looking it up right now. The Nanami part I knew and I was able to get the best ending with that one. But that Pahn one on one w/ Teo was str8 cheat style. I hav2 go back and play it but I feel like u had to get hella~lucky to win that. Teo took off a lot even when you guessed right on his tells if I remember right. But idk, it's been a really long time, I could def be wrong and I may have been doing something wrong back then. It's been years now. Lol. But I'm def gonna hav2 go back now, bcuz I need to see that ending. I'm a fight off looking it up on KZbin with every ounce of will power I have. Lol. But thanks, Bro. I'm a def hav2 go back and redo that now. Truly appreciate you.😋 I'm soo looking 4ward 2 the Chronicles, here's to it being revived and even more so that it reenergizes the series.

[@nellioclark7571]

@@88games86 No doubt, Bro. Enjoy the vids, keep up the great stuff! And def appreciate the Chron updates! I always come back to see where we are with that through your vids. So I definitely appreciate all the hard work, time, and effort you put n2 that. So truly heartfelt thank you on behalf of everyone that loves these games for all that you do to make these videos and make the info all so easy to keep up with.😊 Keep doing whatchu do, Man!

[@rdiv]

​@@nellioclark7571 The duel mini game isn't something completely standalone with no ways to influence it. Your character level, his weapon level and gear matter. So if you haven't been using Pahn to keep him well leveled, geared ect ect then obviously you'd have to rely way too much on observation of Teo's words in order to beat him in this rock-paper-scissors sort of minigame and luck. And even then if Pahn is way too behind in levels, grear/weapon level, then you can't win. If you kill Milim-The flower guy, you can't gather the 108 stars. If I remember correctly he is one of the stars you must collect or you need him alive to recruit some other character. It's been a while, I don't remember every detail. You must collect all 108 stars of destiny before the large briefing and gathering of the huge fight that is to come against the Empire(which if I remember correctly happens either after or before the fight with General Sonya). I suggest to play Suikoden 1 again and save often and keep separate saves. If you don't want to go through the process of trial and error then I suggest to google for a suikoden 1 character recruiting guide.

[@dddd-hz5xf]

suikoden 2 broke my heart. when that one character dies blocking those arrows protecting the hero (not gonna ruin it) super sad when she dies

[@hendribadaya8814]

Yeah and that why I prefer the normal ending rather than the happy ending, for me the happy ending kind of ruin her sacrifice and the 3 friends got together again feel too much like fairy tale ending imo.

[@veronicawestrheim1802]

I love how the game makes yu FEEL actual feelings. from sadness, to joy . Frindship and laughter. The minigames are fun , I really like the cooking shw in number 2. Where you have to get recepis and grow ingridiens to make the best stuff. The characters feels like kinda real Persons. Also the part that some of the characters give you special treats in your castle, like shops, games baths and blacksmith to improve your weapon. And it is fun with all the sidequests that you dont really need if you rush throug, but you want to make i perfect so you try to do them all to get the best ending.1 and 2 are my favoirites becuase they made me fall in love with the game. number 5 is the best becue of the graphics. 3 is ok but not a game i have played to the end may times like i did with 1,2 and 5.

[@ThomasakaDes]

I want suikoden 1 to 5 on ps4. I did buy 1 on ps3, but I'd buy it again on ps4. I've only completed s5. But I've finished it 12 times. I playef it 10 times in a row, then one more time before switching to ps3. Then another time a few years later. Love the Lore, the charachters. Really want to know more About Eresh for example.

[@NoobGamer64-gj4ic]

Sooooo do you like Suikoden?! -Psycho Mantis

[@suikoayanajim2]

You’ve forgotten the most important thing the games, the Soundtracks/music!

[@adrianottosolaiman2089]

The music sir, it brings us nostalgic and relax feeling, suikoden 2 and FF viii both are the best ps1 game i've ever played

[@Lukamusic81]

Greatest RPG ever. I got 1 and 2 when they first came out. The music is amazing

[@durendalarcas8209]

Suikoden 1 and 2 would be perfect for HBO somebody make it happen

[@claude-alexandretrudeau1830]

Not all games can pull off recruiting over 100 playables and still be good. There needs to be relevance about gathering so many people. Like a war. You're not supposed to be winning a war by your lonesome. And since war affects everybody, anyone joining you has a viable reason too.

[@TheMan-je5xq]

That Zod beard tho 😳. As for Suikoden I think it’s because the higher power part of the story doesn’t overwhelm the more down to earth and realistic problems your characters are dealing with. It’s cool also to see the characters start off pretty innocent and through hardships grow into an adult especially in the first two games which are my favorite

[@VitchAndVorty]

Playing the first two games with a dictionary to help me comprehend the language. Suikoden 2 is one of my favourite games of all time.

[@trapdoorfloyd]

The main hero in the game literally dressed like an old school Portuguese islander from long ago.

[@faiziqbal5199]

Excellent works bro. Keep it up

[@88games86]

Thank you!

[@antucoblack2652]

The remaster of the first two games is due out next year, along with the spiritual successor from the OG dev team. Eiyuden Chronicles.

[@p_heinel4726]

You don't mention the castle, major side story, cameo from previous game and spoiler for the sequel ( jowston alliance in suikoden 1, Sasarai, Lucia and Holly kingdom Harmonia in suikoden 2, Georg Prime backstory in suikoden 2, Ted backstory in Suikoden 1, the middle Eastern kingdom or sultanate in suikoden v sorry I forget the name)

[@88games86]

Yeah the little connections from one game to the next are definitely an awesome part of the series. Good point!

[@ayasdwiky6009]

For suikoden fans! Try the trails series!

[@scelusiasadventure2278]

Story, characters, settings, soundtracks, and most importantly.... Miki Higashino.

[@ongpongtv]

i love suikoden this is the game i played since i was in high school till i got a job almost 15yrs in total 2nd will be wild arms i also complete that game since ps1

[@kirika0259]

good soundtracks, culture ( village, house, and others), game story line, rune story.

[@GenerationPixel]

You didn't need a 6 minute 46 second video, you had me at Suikoden 🤣 just the mere hint of that series and I'm putty in your hands 🤣 Great video though, thoroughly enjoyed watching.

[@grimrevan4660]

Black runes, pink balloons, what's the difference?

[@CrimRui]

Would add awesome music. Everything else is said. And we need a collection release!

[@titanhades4331]

People may hate on 4, but I think it was neccessary. It was needed to help flesh out the Island nations for future titles.

[@88games86]

Yeah I guess it's good for that, and it's not a terrible game by any stretch, for me it's the horrible world map experience with a slow boat, long stretches of open ocean and stupidly high encounter rate just made the game unbearable. That said, I am planning to speed run it fairly soon so maybe I'm just a masochist haha

[@PS1Fan1991]

@@88games86 I will say that V didn't fix the high encounter rate which was a disappointment. The large stretch of ocean is only bad in IV when you don't know where the stars are; so it isn't great for a blind run, but in saying that, other Suikoden games had the same issues in their own ways with finding Stars of Destiny. As people have mentioned, getting Viki does improve travel and the boat does have a speed up function. III and IV had the most mixed opinions in the series, but they still get a lot of love. There are people who hate on them, but there are still plenty who love playing them. Personally, I love all five, but II in my opinion is the strongest entry comfortably.

[@peteralexandra7899]

Luca Blight. The one villain you truly hate. Killing woman and children, ON SCREEN. But as the story goes you learned why he did what he did. Then you feel a little bit sorry for him. But still want him dead. I remember killing him first time and jump up literally. Then there is Culgan, Seed, Han Cunningham, which you know is not a bad person, but didn't have no other choice to defeat. The thought that Rowd and Yuber survives, while these patriotic generals were not, makes me want to throw my controller to the wall.

[@johntracy72]

At the same time, he was the best RPG villain ever, even more so than Kefka in Final Fantasy VI.

[@kevinb5417]

Because they have excellent, refined tastes.

[@DocFear]

Suikoden 1 and 2 were exceptional games on nearly every level... The game was so innovative and such a fresh approach to an RPG that I haven't seen anyone replicate as well. From the day I first got Suikoden one all those years ago they are still my favorite RPG's of all time... I have them on my phone so I can play them when I feel like it. I'm super hyped about Eiyuden Chronicles! The only thing that really went wrong with the games was the involvement of Konami who rushed development and gave us shoddy translations... Glad that the developers are now crowdfunded to work independently on Eiyuden! And they have a huge budget... 4 million more than they requested.

[@faosparkNeo]

The is a legit Iron chef mini game on two and a very epic one

[@holygoose3317]

You seem to be a big fan of Kojima Games... (Thank you, for all your support!)

[@rorkirbabtista9429]

I played trough suikoden 2 once and I never understood how I could have gotten any other characters or story plots than I did, to me it all seemed like a normal linear jrpg (one of my favorites)

[@generalhezakiyageorge3070]

The music mini games how each character a unique skill or a job in your headquarters or HQ Castle the series Jeane owns a rune shop raura owns a scroll shop chapman owns armory shop and chadler owns a item shop....

[@peshiii97]

Great story writing Amazing music Lovable characters Suikoden II was the best experience for me

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

And now Suikoden 1 & 2 are back with a remaster!

[@oldschoolgamer8639]

Pretty decent video. I only own Suikoden 2 but am working on Suikoden 1 via bug fix patch before I begin Suikoden 2 which I will ALSO play via bug fix patch. I only want to and am going to play Genso Suikoden 1 and 2, as well as the SuikoGaiden 1 and 2 psx visual novel with dating style elements hybrid side games to Suikoden 2. I have tons of games I am currently working on and I wont lie, at the moment Lunar 1 and 2 PSX have my priority attention as does Thousand Arms, and Tales of Destiny II PSX(Tales of Eternia), as well as Arc the Lad collecton and others like Wild Arms but regardless Suikoden is great atleast the 2D games anyway. I have started the new Fan translation of Genso Suikoden or SuikoGaiden: Woven Web of the Centuries fan translated into english for PSP(last "suikoden" titled game to release anywhere and its sadly got next to nothing to do with Suikoden in any way. It looks good for a PSP game but anyone expecting true suikodwn gameplay and story/connections you will be out of luck. As a stand alone game its quite decent, but dont expect "what makes suikoden special in it...its not there. Alright vood job on video and take care man. ✌

[@LuminousArc92]

thus far I've only played Suikoden Tierkries and I enjoyed it. I did pick up 1 and 2 on my PSVita and I really need to get around to playing them. Thank goodness you can access older games using is playstation store for those who missed out initially

[@StewNWT]

Experiencing the first two Suikoden games for the first time is such a joy.

[@alckun8136]

great story, great character development, and the challenge to gather all heroes are my reason to play suikoden when i was in junior high school #LOL, but tbh neclord fight's and luca blight's songs are epic!!

[@claireglory]

i didn't even know that there is a suikoden revival movement in facebook. just think about how many more who doesn't know about it but likes suikoden. that page could reach millions.

[@88games86]

Totally! Just trying to do my part to get the word out!

[@jordanmurray7522]

So much lore and mystery Sindar if you know you know

[@pasonwheatgrass1831]

Played the 3rd, found in a Blockbuster, first and then spent several years buying copies of the series.

[@joshpatee3774]

Shining force got me hooked on rpgs but suikoden 2 is why I love them ❤❤

[@StewNWT]

I do have to gently chide that the music should be #1.

[@havelard]

I miss viki in my first playthrough, no wait..

[@galihjati443]

It's Jeane!!!! Chris Lightfellow too

[@Symphony85p]

Suikoden 1 and 2 are the best rpgs ever made imo there is a special aura the music characters mystery story everything. And ive finished and own around 200 rpgs.

[@88games86]

I have to agree about Suikoden 2. I think Suikoden 1 is good, and it was an important stepping-stone for the developers and allowed them to arrive at Suikoden 2, but personally I wouldn't necessarily rank it as an amazing game. But 2 is a legit masterpiece imo

[@Symphony85p]

@@88games86 Suikoden is pure magic imo just a shorter game than Suikoden 2. Suikoden 2 is my favourite but the first one is up there too from the amazing soundtrack to the introduction of Neclord Gremios death so many moments that still is glued in your head. I like to combine suikoden 1 and 2 as 1 game and that results in the ultimate rpg imo. 👍

[@StewNWT]

@@88games86 Disagree personally. Suikoden I was a better game for me, though I know I'm in the minority. The music is better in 1 than 2.

[@ddwkc]

I'd say in Japan lot of the audience were girls as they like this type of storytelling (specially the bromance and rivalry part) which FF and DQ didn't offer yet. Being based on Chinese classics (actually the original inspiration were mangas with lot of main characters at the time like Captain Tsubasa and Saint Seiya, for instance). The characters and story linger with you as well. The game being sprite based aged better over the years. The graphics are charming. I like S3, but I think that one aged the worse in the series and usually it seems people are less fond of this one, specially newcomers to the series. Even S4 seems to get better praise nowadays. The games were overall easy, so easy to pick up. The focus on story and characters first and then gameplay and graphics later were the selling points not many games did. The games feel a complete experience even if they lack polish if you are used to Squaresoft and Enix games at the time. I'd say it was one of the games that change your views on what a good game experience is (sorta similar to games like Demon's Souls and Undertale in more recent years). Also, lot of the fanbase are "new" (in relation to the release years) and didn't really play back then. I don't think nostalgia plays much of a factor, but the word of mouth slowly increased the fanbase in the background. I consider this the GoT of JRPG before GoT was a thing. Maybe a more apt comparison would be LoGH. An anime that was very niche despite having a decent following in Japan, with a huge cast and expansive storytelling and charming dialogue. Fanbase in the West starts praising the series in the background and now it is a cult classic for Westerner fans as well. The intense love of the initial fanbase helped boost the cult status of the series. Collectors may also play a factor although it may be just a chicken and egg problem. Fanbase praising the series made this a cult classic which increased collectivity as it becames a must play PS1 game and then increasing exposure.

[@FortniteLuckyDrops]

I love this till i've play it alot of times to find all characters

[@bennettreib]

Thank you

[@ericakaartistformerlyknown1396]

Cause its awesome

[@mav_from_the_loo3549]

BEST GAMES EVER MADE!

[@caiyen9298]

German SAS top of the Sausage line hotdog 🌭

[@ITGR]

What a beefy video! Thank you for reviewing the games without spoilers! You think the games are worth picking up for $400 nowadays? I always feel the sting of regret back when I saw it for 100 bucks and said man thats expensive. Little did I know how expensive these games could get...

[@labmember0656]

I just finished playing trails. Will suikoden beat what I felt in trails? Please answer

[@ViralZen]

Because it's a good game

[@88games86]

lol basically, yeah

[@satriopandutomo9924]

Like Suikoden? They don't just LIKE Suikoden THEY LOVE SUIKODEN (including... ME!!!) If they don't LOVE Suikoden, there won't be anyone that try to make the Eiyuden Chronicle the spiritual successor of Suikoden after all this time

[@Serge_crono]

New subscriber here. Keep up the good work👍. One of the best storylines in my opinion.

[@NivraNabru]

this video is meta now!

[@Yuki_M]

Suikoden 2 is the first ever RPG... Of all the hype of final fantasu which i quit didnt get when i was 10 my eyes stuck to a ps one cd game red and blue aka riou and jowy i was like huh... I want this And no regret since

[@carlohilario4253]

like? or love. specially the 1 and 2. i played it like 20+ times

[@gamerhalim4717]

Now the they release again in steam

[@alvin081988]

It is a simple JRPG....Simple Battle System, Characters are amazing from their backstory, Character Development and Growth, Story and many more....Even if this is your first time playkng it you will love it.. My suggestion is play Suikoden 1 or 2 first

[@robertxhacker]

Its one of our first rpgs; ever or on a disc based console. Even though its an entry level rpg, its well done. Sometimes simple is best. Character development Plot Turn based Replayability Characters can die permanently (thats probably a pro and a con)

[@derrickoh1895]

1 question. Is Suikoden 1 the only game you will play in twitich or you are planning to play the rest

[@88games86]

Great question! I actually started a casual play of Suikoden 2 on stream a few days ago and I'm going to continue it tomorrow (Saturday). At the moment, the plan is to alternate streams between speed running Suikoden 1, and casual playing Suikoden 2. Then when I'm done with those 2, I'll be moving on to others in the series for sure!

[@BF-Gator]

Because it's good

[@akunart5173]

MUST WAIT EIYUDEN

[@javiermedina2600]

The 108 stars!

[@rodolfo4173]

Great video! I love suikoden

[@vitormelo22]

Som, história personagens. Obrigado pelo vídeo. Eiyuden!