Why Do People Refuse To Accept The Truth About Men & Women?

Chris and Steve Stewart-Williams discuss the actual differences between men and women. What do most people get wrong about men and women according to Steven Stewart-Williams? How modest are the differences between sexes according to Steve Stewart-Williams?
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[@ChrisWillx]

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[@anatta3.14]

You get a new lens or camera?

[@anatta3.14]

Looks good

[@patrickm9494]

I saw you replied to Menno’s post on Instagram debunking the adenosine not being active in the morning and that you can have caffeine immediately in the morning. Are you going to address that and remove the LMNT plug that has proven to be false?

[@joshuas2042]

These are so brutally obvious it is amazing that society has gotten to the place where this is challenged or worth a contentious discussion.

[@Johnstone72]

The alphabet Spastics will hate you for saying it out loud.

[@ronin4160]

It's because liberal millenials aren't having babies and if they are it's just one. Any parent with multiple kids of each sex or has at least watched big groups of toddlers with both sexes know boys and girls are different. It's just obvious

[@cargolot]

“Every high civilization decays by forgetting obvious things.” ― G.K. Chesterton

[@brianmeen2158]

Yeah there are very influential people that are trying to make it seem like men and women are pretty much the same .. of course there is a lot of overlap but there are several very key differences in how men and women think

[@vngelsvnddemons5292]

Common sense is no longer common, sadly.

[@StateFlow-ns4mg]

The fact that it is even a question, shows how broken we are.

[@niallfitzpatrick6568]

Yup 😢 The very definition of a First World problem...

[@gaijinbear8949]

Don't "we' this. A large portion of society is not broken.

[@niallfitzpatrick6568]

@@gaijinbear8949 l agree. Unfortunately we don't have a voice in the MSM anymore. MSM is more concerned with anti-white straight male Christian racism. Frankly it stinks to high heaven.

[@ScrotusMaximus666]

“Delusional”

[@JordiMuntada]

Why is it broken??

[@randywise5241]

Men and women were not made to be equal. They were made to be complementary with equal rights. We need each other to have a future for all mankind.

[@benjaminholm2311]

It's time to stop pretending that they're acting in good faith.

[@indeswma4904]

I worry that youre right.

[@PhsychoSomatic]

Who

[@drockopotamus1]

@@PhsychoSomatic People who think there are no differences between males and females, obviously lol. There are people who literally think the brains are the same or changing identity will change their sex. Not everything is a social construct. Facts exist.

[@FlibDokky]

​@@PhsychoSomatic you know who

[@ganjaericco]

@@PhsychoSomatic New aged socialists, who believe in the blank slate theory, that all outcomes are a result of societal discrimination and must be forced by the state to become equal.

[@LastEarBender]

what blows me away is that anyone claiming otherwise holds any level of credibility - with anyone

[@FutureCommentary1]

Do you have any reference to anybody claiming that? I've never heard anything like it before. If you could give me a couple of names I'll check out their content.

[@yol_n]

Crazy time we live in where saying women and men are different is a hot take

[@andrewrai5752]

Only in the liberal sections of the US/Canada and Northern Europe! Most of the world don’t buy the liberal western social science BS!! I was just in Italy and talking to a bunch of locals and they were aghast when I told them that there was such a term as “they” people, or all the liberal BS we hear in the US.

[@DNA350ppm]

It is rather a banality. What is important is when and why the differences matter. Like in the case of umpaid labor. Or in the rights of fathers. Or in customs of politeness vs harrassment. In divorce-laws, in pensions plans, in medical treatments, or bullying in schools. All individuals have rights.

[@yol_n]

@@edm-london1660 cope harder

[@kubasniak]

I feel disgusted towards ppl who think that like they have leprosy... brainwashed

[@johannesdolch]

Is it time to accept that water is wet?

[@niallfitzpatrick6568]

Or that politicians are full of shite?

[@alkaliwreck2474]

But what if the water is solid :P

[@albertlevins9191]

I'm crying!!! 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stxlaxPP]

Are you assuming my fluidity?

[@solo1014]

Define "wet." Also, if its a bose-einstein condesate, it gets weird...

[@EuropaPhoenix]

The earth is round. 2+2=4. Men and women are different. In a sane world, these basic facts aren't debated.

[@starkid9736]

...how dare u...

[@DrDeuteron]

"round-ish", see: EGM96, for exmaple.

[@k.mosallam]

ok but like 2+2=5 though...

[@filipcza]

If someone is so out of touch with reality that they actually think men and women are the same, then just walk away. They are beyond anyone's help.

[@brianmeen2158]

But but all The differences are caused by social constructs!! With enough work we can all be the same 😂

[@stinkystu1]

@@brianmeen2158 What they really mean is: "If you just completely destroy who you are, and give me all of your time and money then we can maybe work this out."

[@debrawehrly6900]

They are both human beings. They are both two separate things of the same thing

[@Nossieuk]

we did accept that - 60 years ago - this is regression, not progress.

[@Anne_Onymous]

It's an objective fact that humans have accepted for millions of years. Not sure why we're even having this convo.

[@osariemeenehizena8577]

Social politics

[@mileygray7794]

? Slavery being a good thing is the same way? Do you wish for us to continue with it as well? Er does the position you are making to traditional beliefs only apply to the one you hold on to? Remember people it's perfectly fine to have tearable beliefs but it is never ok to be a lazy thinking hypocrite 😅

[@mileygray7794]

@@realsatoshihashimoto na it's important to say all the stuff you believe in ^.^ well as long as you try to do so in good taste. We can't learn grow and shurt the good from the bad by hiding from what we don't like

[@mileygray7794]

@@realsatoshihashimoto na it's important to say all the stuff you believe in ^.^ well as long as you try to do so in good taste. We can't learn grow and shurt the good from the bad by hiding from what we don't like

[@realsatoshihashimoto]

@@mileygray7794 Yeah, not sure why my comment was deleted when I was basically agreeing with the creator of the channel & what they said in the video! KZbin censorship is out of control.

[@threatened2024]

As Cory Clark said, people tend to accept negative things about men and positive things about women.

[@busybecomingmyself]

Indeed. See "women are wonderful effect"

[@kc6810]

@@busybecomingmyself Glad you noticed 😂 Just kidding. I don’t think that’s true and as a married woman, Ive been ignored by say a restaurant host/hostess or at some other public place and then my physically imposing husband walks in the door and it’s, “hi, what can I do for you”? I think he has a lot of privilege out in the world. People tend to overlook the woman but if she complains nowadays she gets called a Karen.

[@skylinefever]

I like how Karen Straughan made fun of it. She joked "Man's desires bad. Women's desires good."

[@busybecomingmyself]

@@kc6810 there are definitely places where men have privileges but both men and women have a general bias towards women. I made a video about this a few weeks ago in response to the "men are useless" clip from the View which went viral. That video description includes references to the research papers I mention.

[@sanniepstein4835]

It's a reaction to 20th century misogyny. The sneering at housewives, the pop-Freud blaming of mommy for every personal failing, the venomous hatred expressed by overpraised and dishonest authors like John Cheever. Humans are rarely in balance.

[@josephthibodeau9725]

The sexual versus emotional infidelity makes perfect sense. Sexual infidelity by a woman makes it less likely for a man's kids to be biologically his, in which case he is no longer creating or caring for his own legacy and has wasted his time, energy and resources. While emotional infidelity by a man makes it more likely that a woman will lose her source of security/resources and may no longer be able to secure a new one due to societal constraints or just being too old or unattractive in either biological or social preferences. Makes perfect sense from an evolutionary development standpoint. Keeping in mind that almost none of our emotions and instincts were developed for the world we live in. They were formed in and for a world in which we live in caves or simple hunter gatherer sttlements with extremely limited resources in many cases.

[@sol-hunter2332]

I used to believe men and women were largely the same (because that's what the media and internet told me). I've realized how wrong that is. Our sex is far more than just our parts. Gender and sex are intrinsically tied.

[@duncanhewitt6557]

Why did you believe that. Men and women behave nothing like each other.

[@davidbellecy1709]

We have been successfully divided to be easily mentally conquered. Very glad to have logic and reason as a weapon against stupidity.

[@brucejensen3081]

Definitely harder to indentify real differences in this artificial world we are adapting to

[@pfschuyler]

"Why Do People Refuse To Accept The Truth About Men & Women?" Probably because the Truth sucks. 😆

[@PaganSkye]

I really like that you take on these topics that most people stay away from ❤

[@stevenelson25]

Also a thing in my understanding, people who take doses of hormones have a more diverse perspective of how the mind and human experience shifts over time based on feminine vs masculine hormone doses.

[@0_fksgvn955]

They're either delusional or lack any critical thinking skills or both.

[@carllong8954]

You forgot the 3rd option. Evil and not acting in good faith. They know they lie and don't care.

[@0_fksgvn955]

​@@carllong8954 true, but I think that's a small percentage. The amount of idiots that have no critical thinking skills that listen to those people are the overwhelming majority.

[@GeneralProfessor]

Here's an additional option: Imagine that the belief that men and women are equal is the foundation. On that foundation rest other beliefs which, when combined, form the modern feminist ideology. As a result it is critical to protect the foundation because without it the whole construction will fall apart. To explain a bit further: Men and women are equal, right? Right. So you look at the world and you see unequal distribution of power / resources between the two sexes. If the sexes are equal then where does such inequality come from? The answer is the patriarchal conspiracy which systematically oppresses women on all levels. Within the context of such arguements, when certain facts are hidden and forbidden then abuse of power by those in power becomes the only remaining logical conclusion *. Now you can see why men and women MUST be equal. Why this is the required foundation in order for other ideas to hold water. The moment you start to argue for biological differences you, by extension, are arguing against the oppression narrative. Tangent: This is also why feminism is powerless against the trans ideology. In order to oppose it, feminism must agree to the fact which, once agreed on, shatters its own foundation. * This is how ideologies function in general. In a scientific process you look at the facts and infer the conclusion. In an ideological process it's the other way around. The conclusion is the starting point, and from there facts are cherry-picked based on whether they contribute or detract from it.

[@Abstractpossom]

@@GeneralProfessorwell said

[@jimbokop4577]

Thanks sherlock 👍

[@alyssaoconnor]

Its funny that he mentioned that at no time has a woman looked at their kid and wondered if that was their own because my mother was passed someone else’s baby at the hospital after giving birth to my brother - the only way she knew was that the baby had hair and she knew that my brother didn’t have hair from the look she had before they took him away 😂😂. After giving birth you’re so tired and the baby looks so squished from coming down the canal if it looks similar I can see where mistakes are made.

[@tikari3987]

Haha :)

[@debrawehrly6900]

Unless they get switched at the hospital,...lol

[@knooters]

People have ALWAYS (no exceptions!) said that men and women are different. But that's not the same as pretending that the differences are huge aside from genitals. The best relationships are between people who have a lot in common (rather than this "opposites attract" nonsense - we are not goddamn magnets). The truth is that the differences between men are larger than the differences between men and women. Just think of something like height. Sure, on average, men are higher than women - but a man can be anything from 1.60m tall to 2.10m tall, without being in the extremes, whereas the average height difference between men and women is just about 13cm. You can spot similar patterns within other areas, such as sex drive, stamina (as in, say, running a 10k distance) etc. Single people would have alot better chances if they stopped guessing "what (wo)men want" and started asking themselves "what do humans want?", simply because if you find something attractive in another person - chances are that that person will find the same thing attractive in other people. Like, a fit person would typically prefer a fit mate (maybe even within similar kinds of exercise), and not a couch potato.

[@Pozywny]

dr paul conti states the single most potent indicator of a successful pairing is matching levels of generative drive. if you want to be on a farm, find a farmer partner. if you want to create music, find a partner that likes to create media. high performing ceo? find another high performing executive. etc this is why the basal advice for lonely men is to work on yourself. women take care of themselves better, they want a man who matches that energy.

[@brianmeen2158]

Disagree completely with your 3rd paragraph. Womens wants in a relationship are vastly different from mens wants . If I was a single guy looking to attract women I had better find out what women in general prefer as opposed to what humans prefer.

[@knooters]

@@brianmeen2158 Thinking of "women in general" is probably the worst thing you can do. If you follow what you like yourself, at least you will attract people with similar thoughts and views as yourself. However, if you zoom in, you need to zoom in a lot more - as you are probably not looking for "women in general" - but women with certain attributes/qualities. And that sub-group will most likely have completely different needs than other sub-groups (or the statistical average). Like, personally I prefer women who are intelligent, creative, got some "drive", a modern view on gender roles - among other things. I'd be a complete idiot if I applied the same "what do women want" logic to these women than if I wanted, say, a trad-wife (which I assume alot of Chris' male fans want). The women I want find it sexy when men oppose to gender stereotypes as it shows some character, and also communicates that she won't be expected to sacrifice her carreer to be a stay-at-home-mom. The same thing goes the other way around, too. If a woman is interested in me, she'd be completely screwed if she tried the same tricks she assumes work on most other guys who comment on this video (I know I'm in the minority in this particular place on the internet).

[@kc6810]

@@knooters I like your thinking and it makes more sense in the real world. After all, it comes down to being able to get along with another human being while sharing a space with them every day. These guys get all caught up in “roles” and it’s a trap. It’s so confining for people.

[@RaffiDiranBassclef]

Williams & Williamson. This is gonna be a good episode

[@gregy1570]

how about willingness/ability to accept responsibility for one's own actions/decisions? how about consideration for others? overall craziness? deceit?

[@angryox3102]

I’ve had a change in jobs recently and I’ve noticed that women in power are highly deceitful. It’s shocking.

[@Destructivepurpose]

As soon as I heard this guy's voice, I knew he was a fellow kiwi! Awesome to hear him on your podcast

[@debrawehrly6900]

These observations make sense to me

[@roel.vinckens]

Not even watching. Just reading the comments to not completely lose my confidence in humanity.

[@freshtoast3879]

🤣

[@umbrascitor2079]

Think you got it backwards, mate. No matter what side of what topic you're on, the comment sections are brain poison. I'm only here because I succumb to the addiction.

[@roel.vinckens]

@@umbrascitor2079 With you all the way, except for the opening question of this vid. It's beyond ridiculous.

[@arian-__-]

Perfect ❤💥🔥

[@AverageJoeInOz]

I'm having a 'thanks captain obvious' moment...men and women are different, really? No, surely not.

[@niallfitzpatrick6568]

WOW...knock me over with a feather 😂

[@jessicah3992]

A thousand times yes

[@bigglyguy8429]

That biggest difference is indeed something i often consider. For example when I try to figure out my wife's behavior, I remind myself she loves me for being masculine, which makes a lot of things clearer.

[@kc6810]

How can you figure out her behavior? You’re coming from your perspective and can never really know. Just the same for her. How will men and women ever really understand each other. It’s actually an insult to think you can because you’ll always be coming from the other perspective and thinking the other doesn’t make sense snd then have disrespect for it. Not picking on you, specifically but it just gets old hearing people speak on something in a sometimes dismissive way because they don’t understand.

[@piretbaumann2574]

So much of this just comes down to wording. Version 1: Men and women are different because men want women, women want men. Version 2: Men and women are the same because both want the opposite sex.

[@aafgahfah]

well no. By wanting the opposite sex they are wanting completely different things.

[@piretbaumann2574]

@@aafgahfah Interesting. I see it differently. The things they want are opposite, but their wants are not. If I'm B and want A, but you're A but want B, we both want what we are not. (At that I'm not trying to claim sexes are not different. They are. Just that his "most important difference" is rhetoric in my understanding. That same paternity uncertainty he talks about causes very important differences.)

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

because ............. they are have to admit they have been LIED TO SUCCESSFULLY (embrassing)

[@saullandiof5768]

that's pretty brilliant to include sexual preference as one of the differences, I never even considered that. But it's clearly a massive difference between women and men

[@kc6810]

But maybe men kinda are in love with other men. They like men better than women. Bromance, man crush lol

[@PerfectHandProductions]

Why is there no information in the description? Who is this guy? What's his book called?

[@EnkiseEvolution]

Just goes to show you how STUPID society has become that this needs to be ACKNOWLEDGED.

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

it's done to society on purpose as a psyop... if you are under a well-calculated psychological attack, and you don't even know it's happening, you probably stand no chance

[@brianmeen2158]

I’d love to have my grandfather and a few others from his geveration be able to see the convos we are having in 2024 around sex and gender. They would be at a loss for words

[@tuckerbugeater]

the stupidity comes from the contradictions which are partial to survival

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@brianmeen2158 betabuxing makes the brain decompose faster

[@iBob20]

What camera does Chris use because my god he makes everyone else's camera look like a flip phone camera.

[@bumpygumpson]

The difference between a real camera with good lighting and a webcam with flat lighting

[@nathanosterhaus]

You're just realizing this now?

[@Zanroff]

Who?

[@AnAmerican-fm3xk]

I believe it's meant sarcastically because some 'activists' claim everything is a social construction now.

[@Zanroff]

@@SD-mi2vc He thought men and women were the same?

[@Zanroff]

@@SD-mi2vc So he's never experience women and men thinking about things differently in day-to-day general life? That's crazy.

[@Pellegrino1]

Has nothing to do with being atractive​@@SD-mi2vc

[@janpetra1724]

Jealousy was certainly a part of our evolution, but what is more certain is that it is a pathological trait.

[@cherrylane79]

I think it's more what the society forces us to be, than natural differencies.

[@sidecar7714]

No mention of fear

[@TheGeneralDisarray]

This is the one thing that my sister, who in almost all other respects has quite a lot of common sense, refuses to admit

[@evedotcom]

Love that within the first minute he highlighted both ends of the spectrum. Of course in a comment section like this, you’ll hear a strong yes to biological sex differences, which is fair, but it’s definitely worth noting that these differences can also be too exaggerated as well. In response to one extreme, I see too many going to the other extreme.

[@myself2noone]

Steven Stewart Williams always has interesting insights.

[@uprightmovement]

There’s refusal, due to Social Engineering and Social Contagion.

[@someguyusa]

People who think there are no sex differences should take a basic anatomy and physiology class. To deny the differences is to deny day and night, heads and tails, etc.

[@unitysprings3631]

I shared a womb with a boy...... I also had kids and can unequivocally confirm that men and women are different. We aren't monoliths, dont get me wrong. My career choice took me into a very male dominated world, but i was still a woman and brought a whole new vibe with me

[@kc6810]

I don’t think people thought that men and women are exactly the same. Idk where that came from. I think the point from the 60s was to not discount someone from being or doing something based solely on their sex. They didn’t think women could ever fly a plane or perform surgery or become a governor. Don’t hold someone back because of their sex. Maybe most women aren’t cut out to be a firefighter but there still might be some that can. The fact that you were allowed into a male dominated field attests to what people were fighting for.

[@Neoteny374]

By "vibe" you mean HR department?

[@unitysprings3631]

@@Neoteny374 No chance 😂 I was self employed and endured my fair share of portaloo rocking 😁

[@Neoteny374]

@@unitysprings3631 😁😁😁

[@user-us2jr5ym7l]

@@Neoteny374 And lawsuits for being "violated" and "uncomfortable" in order to win cash and prizes. The HR department is women's divorce court in the workplace.

[@chuch541]

We all have our strengths and weaknesses. I always say: “if you’re not treating someone as an individual, you’re fuckin up!” That being said, some of our S&W are inherent. E.g. men’s upper body strength and women’s lower body strength. But that scale is sliding, there are women whom would chuck a male peer; and women who would get out legged by a man.

[@acmhfmggru]

you are dramatically overstating the endurance advantage of women (which is different than life body strength)... the average out of shape couch potato man is stronger and had had better endurance than the average out of shape couch potato woman.

[@kc6810]

@@acmhfmggru Idk, women who are not “in shape” still do a lot of running around with house and kid things. There are different kinds of “being in shape”. When my kids were little, I didn’t prioritize going to the gym so my body wasn’t getting that type of toned look and I may have been carrying a few extra pounds but I definitely had the endurance to do what was necessary for the family and the house (which I know most men downplay as just pushing a button on various home appliances). Anyway, the couch potato man would be able to lift heavier things but I bet he really doesn’t have the same level of endurance. There are many variables like what job he does all day but don’t assume because he’s a man that he has more endurance automatically.

[@mrknarf4438]

I can't find any source claiming women have greater lower body strength than men of comparable weight, can you provide any? I always thought male body strength was greater for both higher and lower body, as world records seem to hold, but do correct me if I'm wrong.

[@chuch541]

@@mrknarf4438 A ridiculous thing to say per the context of what I said. 😂

[@boyyang9007]

​@chuch541 There was nothing wrong in his reading of what you said. If there was a problem it's your delivery.

[@debrawehrly6900]

I agree

[@brandonbaltes6850]

look up the differences in what direction the female brain moves neurally (left to right--lateral thinking? idk that is a genuine ?) whereas the male brain moves front to back (vertical thinking? idk just prompting good, non-emasculated questions) and those directional things are according to a female neuroscientist i heard on this same channel forgetting her name but after taking my own advice it seems the neuroscience is a little cloudy (perhaps because the findings aren't pretty? egalitarian? comfortable? and or because, I surmise, it genuinely is, to some degree, a very hazy thing to unearth with current neuroscience) therefore take this and probably all in life with something of a grain of salt, (imo one should) trust one's self and one's genetics and family more than the constantly changing, less permanent nurture side of life's absurd coin

[@arjuna153]

Either way, we are all humans first & all humans are basically the same few patterns of behaviour. Our females don't devour the male partner after mating.

[@kc6810]

Well, sort of, not really I guess 😂

[@SouthernIg]

Is this even a question?

[@BryJovi17]

I didn't actually hear what the psychologist said when he stated the biggest psychological difference. Can anyone write it here please?

[@kevinpyburn8843]

Cause that isn't what they are paid to push. We need more doctors to stand up like this guy.

[@eliseohagerman5341]

What difference is steve talking about around 3:00, chris’ laugh made it hard to hear lol

[@k.k8291]

Or between the various human ethnicities.

[@TiGGowich]

I've always liked the way Jordan Peterson described it: "Men and women are very different, but they are still more similar than they are different" ... I thought that was always a really good way of putting it. It's basically like saying, they might be 40% different which is significant, but that also means they are 60% similar which is also significant. Just denying there are no differences to me is pure insanity. Only someone who is completely detached from reality could say such nonsense.

[@BA-pq3uj]

Shocker...

[@rkuhl19]

Appreciate the evolutionary perspective of pair binding, but I think it might not be the whole picture. What about social status? If you lose a partner of high status doesn’t that a big deal? Or the human desire to feel loved, understood and appreciated by someone we care about? Isn’t that reason enough on its own to feel jealous? So again, I think the evolutionary perspective presented makes sense, but feels short sighted and actually a disservice to the wholeness of our experience and love itself to reduce it all down to parental considerations

[@lauterunvollkommenheit4344]

"Mater semper certa est".

[@tips4truckers252]

Growing pains. Of changing social norms. Just like weddings, people still want a traditional wedding, when they didn't do anything traditional prior.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

People? Very few people.

[@Christoff8188]

So strange that we're even having this debate. What has the world come to? Yes, there are exceptions, there always are. That doesn't mean society needs to fold to cater to a small minority. I'm big on acceptance and tolerance, people should be able to do as they please if it harms nobody else. However, that doesn't mean every edge case should be normalised; where does that end? As an aside... I heard a really interesting theory recently, that homosexuality is an evolutionary trait to protect the parents, particularly single mothers. Really made me think. In short, one study suggests that each subsequent child you have, especially if you're a single mum, decreases the probability of them being straight. Likely due to an intentional hormonal change (lower testosterone, for example). But, that's a chicken/egg debate really. It's thought that this is to counteract overpopulation, but also to provide said mother with assistance around the family home, as gay men especially are often more feminine and emotionally intelligent than their straight counterpart (while a gay woman is less likely to have children). Essentially, our bodies know that, to support a large family, we need a secondary caring figure, and will attempt to produce one if required. I have no idea how true this is, or whether it's backed by more than one study, but it sure gave me some food for thought!

[@Crunchy166]

0:17 Alright Mufasa XD

[@zeals936]

I have since I was a child . Science not necessary 😂

[@GlennElliottKeller]

Screw acceptance the truth is still the truth whether you accept it or not

[@debbiecreter2005]

Of course we’re different or we’d be worms!

[@mycoachdave]

Wait- we’re different?!

[@mstorgaardnielsen]

How come it’s always totally overlooked that life circumstances for men and women are different in quite central points. Men has to earn the right to become fathers and pass thresholds of acceptance. Women do not need to pass any significant threshold. Women has to protect their reproductive potential. Men do not. These boundary conditions are central in either genders adaptation to a successful life. Even with a totally gender neutral culture and gender neutral biology, these boundary conditions would require men and women to adopt different traits.

[@gutenheim9371]

Dude has the G432s lol

[@BrookBrayman]

Stories about infants being mixed up at the hospital freak women out. There's your analog for paternal uncertainty in women.

[@kc6810]

I thought about that too lol

[@BlackFighterz]

That is not caused by the male partners behaviour tho but external factors. Here specifically jealousy between partners was discussed.

[@singularitybound]

Pretty sure this has been known for... hmm thousands of years? Being different and opportunities available are 2 different things of coarse.

[@arjuna153]

In countries where traditional gender roles & expectations are minimal & not encouraged & equal education is for all such as Germany, Switzerland, etc, research indicates that women are still mostly drawn to careers like Nursing, Education, Secretarial etc & men to Engineering, Law & politics, Business, etc. Nobody is forcing them.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

It's still a challenge and women are not as accepted in many male dominated fields hence there is not an influx of women there. There's plenty of female lawyers and physicians. Women tend to work in professional areas that provide part time and good pay such as nursing, other health professions, and teaching.

[@kc6810]

Ive also read that when there is more financial insecurity, women will tend to go into higher income fields like stem but when there isn’t that issue they’ll go into traditional female careers.

[@Lakoda26]

The later, of over stating sex differences, is likely due to not understanding how "on average" works.

[@skylinefever]

Some people don't like to face the fact that statistical outliers exist.

[@titobenito43]

Dude looks like the nostalgia critic, Im just waiting for him to go off about the BAT CREDIT CARD!

[@eljefe8149]

They think if they accept that we're different that they'll be treated unequally is my guess.

[@prschuster]

Momma's baby... Papa's maybe...

[@dakota-sessions]

Gina Rippon has done so much damage.

[@vornamenachname4785]

If he says that evolution can create large differences in the human sex, and names homosexuality as an expamle. Does he say then, that there is an evolutionary marker for homosexuality?

[@connorschlick3104]

Only happens in species were there is an abundance of resources and no fulfilling pass-time

[@t-spark]

Are identical twins different? Do they see the world the same?

[@darthseagraves]

Idk

[@cherkovision]

The "being attracted to the opposite sex" thing is huge. Men (and gay women) are incentivized to adopt "Masculine" traits because women find them attractive. It's not just arbitrary.

[@DJFAmenHeavy]

When was it not accepted?

[@JamesJones-mg3ts]

I'd venture that, on jealousy, men are often investing considerable resources so they see this as a 'potential bad investment' on their part (and don't want to take the loss they could have been investing elsewhere... dealing with the 'bad egg'). On the flip side, a lady may see this a threat to the resources a man is investing in her... that he may 'divide' or 'withdraw' his investments on what he considers a 'better investment for him' with another woman. I will note that, some men, with considerable resources can 'divide' a bit of it with other ladies and not significantly impact the investments his making in the 'primary' lady (aka: men with wealth and options... him exercising 'his options' is not as much of a 'threat' to the primary lady as long as he doesn't intend to 'withdraw' his investments to the primary lady... but most 'regular' men can't afford this scenario so it's more of a 'threat' to a lady... more reason for 'jealousy')

[@JamesJones-mg3ts]

Note: 'kids' are the man's 'prize'. Once they are in the picture, they are usually the primary focus of his investments (the mother is the 'cost' of having those kids... where he's now housing her and taking on her expenses to keep the family he forged for the best interests of the kids... not his as it's a sacrifice for a greater purpose). When a man perceives that is under threat by a lady's infidelity, it's a threat to his kids and the tremendously expensive arrangement he has with the mother for the sake of the kids (his primary focus). Particularly covert, when a lady defrauds a man by introducing kids conceived with another man as 'his own', that is a threat to his kids (dividing his resources from 'his' kids with 'other' kids that are not kids he should be investing in.... as only his kids are what he intends to invest in... and the 'other kids' are another man's responsibility). Men get pretty bent about that so that a motivation for jealousy. A lady can have kids with any man but she will have difficulty if she doesn't have them with 'one man' who is supporting them all (which is why defrauding that 'one man' is important to overcome that difficulty). A scenario like that can make a lady very jealous if she see's her charade under threat (all come crashing down and has to seek temporary resources from multiple men and give up her retirement plan with one man... getting cut off when the child support runs out is scary for a self-aware women... but it does seem a lot of ladies don't think about this until the child support is about to end... which can lead to a lot of jealousy when they see their former main partner recovered from her shenanigans and 'doing better' while she's taking a huge 'hair cut' financially). It's quite common for ladies to be 'jealous' of the partners they couldn't keep recovered while she's assuming the consequences of her own actions (she doesn't like seeing that man recovered while she's taking her 'delayed hits').

[@Bak2BasiKs]

Some men and women already know it, some men and woman cant accept it

[@ievgenaznaurov]

Wait, can someone please explain? He said, the biggest difference is that „the vast majority of men is primarily sexually interested in women, and vast majority of women is primarily sexually interested in men“, right? So what’s the difference?

[@steviefyre]

The vast majority of men have zero attraction to men whereas the vast majority of women are attracted to men (and vice versa). This is a pretty major difference, in fact it's a direct opposite in terms of desire/attraction

[@kc6810]

He’s being facetious. Men desire women and women desire men so they are different in that way.

[@brianbarrett8739]

The difference is they desire a different sex more. It would be less of a difference if both men and women preferred men or, if both men and women preferred women. That is a similarity. Since men prefer wome and women prefer men, that is dissimilar.

[@ievgenaznaurov]

​ @kc6810 ​ @brianbarrett8739 thanks guys! joke just flew over my head 🤦🏻‍♂

[@nicholasreese7856]

😂

[@gortys3929]

I would improve the title. It should say: „Is It Time To Stop Negating That Men & Women Are Born Different?”

[@DNA350ppm]

When people deny statistical gender differences or exaggerate them, it is almost always about the policy conclusions drawn from those differences, be it that it is legit to discriminate against one or the other sex. Like women are smaller, so need lesser pay; some fathers are less suitable parents than mothers, so father's rights are secondary; women's sports are less interesting so should be less supported; men are "less emotional" so they need less mental health resources; women's bodies are more complicated, so let's just make research on men's bodies, and pretend they are the same; men and women are equally good drivers, so let's make them pay the same insurance fees; etc etc. These are not qualified conclusions, they are all wrong in some sense. The question is how to make laws and policies just and fair, and promote quality of life in a balanced way for all members of society?

[@celiacresswell6909]

You’re so right - the reason it’s such a hot topic right now is a toxic feedback loop where the conversation gets shouty, then politicians react with knee jerk policy

[@DNA350ppm]

@@celiacresswell6909 100% agreement from me.

[@celiacresswell6909]

@@DNA350ppm and that’s the fault of women as they are much more supportive of big government 😂

[@kc6810]

So what are you saying? To ignore the differences or not with policies? It seems some policies do not ignore the differences and some policies do.

[@celiacresswell6909]

@@kc6810 the first thing for me is that sometimes politics makes things worse and that more politics, more policies, is often the wrong answer. The irony is that there is a gender difference here: women are more likely to support big government

[@tomnichols8084]

Is it time to admit the earth is a sphere??? Or that water is wet?

[@dariahorban2459]

How to answer the question without answering the question. Omg

[@yatesfletcher1424]

The second paragraph is bogus. Saying that the standard DEVIATION in male height is greater than the difference in MEANS between male and female heights is a comparison of apples and oranges. If, on the other hand, I bet that the difference in height between two random men is less than the difference in height between a random man and a random woman, I'll win alot more than I'll lose.

[@kc6810]

I don’t think something like height is what they’re talking about. It’s more the psychological aspect. Im a woman and im taller than the average man. Does that matter?

[@rosswatson9144]

Fairy light conversation… I’d be more interested in how the differences affect voting patterns for example, who would vote for a bigger government that is wide world implications.

[@greenblue6935]

Lol, havent we always accept this?!

[@NPC--666]

Ermmm, it was time to realise it when there was the first women and first man!!!

[@jonathanlee6098]

If someone hands me a drop of blood I can tell you with one hundred percent certainty whether it was drawn from a man or woman. The differences exist at the cellular level.

[@ChrisHops22]

trying to get cancelled, are we?

[@Quibblies]

Hell, yeah AHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[@amandavieira2543]

People are all diferent, sex is just one of those diferenciations.