Why Do Some Fans Hate Kate? - LOST Episode Guide: Tabula Rasa

[@namsalo]

When I watched the show the first time when it aired originally 20 years ago I liked all of the survivors characters more or less, including Kate, except Michael. But while rewatching the show now, 20 years and a lot of my own life experiences later, I do not like her anymore and that from the very start. Kate was a coldhearted, selfish and manipulative bitch and behind Michael I hate her the most. She disguised behind a friendly, nice and helpful facade, but she only cared for herself, never listened, could not take a no, stuck her nose into everything even when being told not to, because she thought herself being so clever which she was not and therefore brought the group in difficulties due to her irrational behavior more often than not. And she never ever showed any remorse and shrugged off lightly every bad action she's ever made and never thought twice about it. What brought me up against her irrevocably was how she used Sun when she was devastated by losing Jin while he prepared to leave the island on Michael's boat. Kate manipulated Sun to poison Jin so he would fall sick and would not be able to leave with the boat and his place on the boat could then be taken by Kate. This was a despicable thing to do and Sun even thanked Kate for giving her that idea, and Kate looked very pleased with herself and never ever regretted it or confessed to Sun, as Charly did after he abducted Sun. But this showed me that Kate only was on the outside seemingly nice and helpful to people because this way she could find out how she could use them or a knowledge about them for her own advantage, and she never showed any remorse, regret or even questioned herself or her actions. Even with the murder of her stepfather she always felt that she did the right thing, and was appalled that the world did not think the same way and kept on getting other people in danger, hurt and killed to get her will. I hate it very much that Jack even fell for her and Kate was always lashing out and overreacting when she did not get her will with Jack, i.e. using Sawyer to sleep with him, although she knew very well that Sawyer loved her. She was toxic and no good for anyone. Sawyer instead did not hide his character and everybody knew what to expect of him, but he showed more insight, self-loath and redeeming qualities than Kate ever did. Behind Sawyer's hard shell one could spot his inner turmoil and self-loath. He made people hate him on purpose because he thought of himself as not being lovable for all that he had done. Kate never questioned her actions and deeds; she thought of herself being in the right. And that is the big difference.

[@Dody-dp7rk]

Wow. My feelings EXACTLY about Kate. You hit the nail on the head!

[@JuanitaJones-cn7lx]

I HARDLY LIKE ANY OF THE MAJOR CHARACTERS. Most of them have done terrible things. And most of them proved to be incapable of expressing remorse for their actions. Michael was one of the few who not only expressed remorse, but also tried to atone for his crimes. I will give credit to Sayid for expressing remorse for torturing Sawyer and attempting atonement. And I will give credit to Kate for expressing remorse for kidnapping Aaron and atoning for her action by finally handing him over to his grandmother after nearly three. I will also give Ben credit for expressing remorse for Locke and Jacob's murders and his apology to Walt for the latter's kidnapping. But Sayid has never express remorse for his other crimes, especially his attempted murder of 12 year-old Ben Linus. And Kate has never expressed remorse to her murder of her father, Wayne Janssen, for lying to her mother Diane Janssen about why she had killed him and for gaslighting her mother for turning her into the cops. Especially when Diane had a very good reason to do so. Jack Shephard SUCKED at expressing remorse for his crimes, which included being complicit in Sayid's torture of Sawyer and attempted murder of 12 year-old Ben, Kate's kidnapping of Aaron and his own attempted murder of John Locke. He has NEVER expressed remorse for what he did. He did express remorse for Juliet's death, but Stuart Radzinsky was responsible for her death, not Jack. Hardly any of the other major characters have expressed remorse for their crap, aside from Jin, who had apologized to Sun for his emotional abuse of her.

[@pocketfulof-dinerobeats]

💯💯💯🎯 facts you're right about everything on Kate.

[@pocketfulof-dinerobeats]

​@@JuanitaJones-cn7lx it made no sense for writers to write Micheal character like that. The people on the island didn't like him because "he was too hard on walt" when walt was being disrespectful to his dad even though he kinda had a reason to be emotional but not disrespectful to Michael. The other reason they have a problem with Micheal because he kxlled Ana Lucia and Libby. (They could've had Ben kxll them and wound Micheal or something) Like you said at least Micheal, Jin, Sawyer were honest about what they did and try to redeem themselves. Even Sun also with her infidelity and other actions. Not Jack(even though he saved everyone at least once), Kate definitely didn't own up to her shady nonsense, she literally go away with mxrder. No pun intended.

[@JuanitaJones-cn7lx]

@@pocketfulof-dinerobeats Kate probably ended up facing prison for breaking her ten-year probation by leaving California and the country. She might also face more jail time just for leaving the country illegally. Considering her history of flight, I don't see the courts giving her leeway for trying to find Claire. That would lead to her lies about being Aaron's mother. I don't know what kind of future Sawyer had faced. He can't be prosecuted for his murders of Anthony Cooper and Tom Friendly. But there is the murder of Frank Duckett hanging over his head. If the Others were able to discover he was responsible for that crime, who know whether the Sydney police eventually did. Even so, the U.S. has an extradition treaty with Australian. And Duckett had been born as a U.S. citizen.

[@daniellamckenzie9640]

I’ll never forgive her for getting on the submarine 😭 Juliet was SO close to going home

[@samnabawy2731]

How dare she get arrested? lol

[@jamescarr1265]

Ugh she’s so annoying

[@Hornsby_Shackleton]

​@samnabawy2731 Right? Kate isn't responsible for them going back. She told them about Jack's plan, and Juliette made her own choice.

[@JuanitaJones-cn7lx]

Sawyer and Juliet were never close to getting home. One, Jack would not have been able to drop the bomb into the Swan construction site without the time travelers' help. Two, after he had dropped the bomb, it failed to go off. If Juliet had not been there or inside that pit, everyone on that island would have died. Then everyone else throughout the world would have died. The world would have ended, thanks to Radzinsky's drilling.

[@seanfrancis7101]

“Channelling bad smoke monster energy” is a term I now will be sure to use throughout my entire life. Brilliant mate

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I find myself usually channeling bad smoke monster energy after a heavy night out! 😆

[@marinabassi3767]

As soon as i see that you posted a new video, I immediately click and like, no need to watch it first to know it is going to be great ! 28:59 later: I can only confirm, thanks again for everything you do with this show. Glad you are planning to do a montage of Sawyer's nicknames, they always bring just a little bittersweet and very much loved pinch of... Sawyerness...

[@MassielZ]

I actually love that episode's final montage, I thought it was perfect for what we could call the first episode: the music, the lyrics, the montage... love it!

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

It's probably the only pop song montage sequence from the series that works for me, particularly the moment where Sayid throws fruit to Sawyer as a peace offering. It's a cheesy sequence of its time, but dramatically justified. Not sure about some of the other song montages in Season One though!

[@edvincovic1801]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 obviously you’ll probably get to that scene when you cover that episode, but you dont fancy the music montage at the end of episode 6 I believe when Kate decided to stay at the beach instead of going to the caves?

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

@@edvincovic1801 I don't hate it but I just think ending episodes with these musical montages of the group either brooding or bonding (even with good songs) feel a bit dated to me, especially seeing as LOST goes on to become a show with truly amazing endings and cliffhangers. I think they make for generally corny outros.

[@edvincovic1801]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108Yeah I get you man. I disagree though, and it might be my artsy side shining through but I really like these outros in moderation, and I think LOST does them well. I like the stripped down nature of them and they tend to be very artistic (like good shots, satisfying choice of music and overall mood) and I also sort of like how they invite you to reflect with the characters. I’ll be tuning in to the next video man! Take care

[@UncleFlaynus]

I love that this channel exists 😍

[@storyguy-l5j]

Started watching LOST for the 5th time. reached S01-EP04.....

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Walkabout! Just finished recording the narration for that episode, and working on the video for it now.

[@bbt305]

Im on the 12th time. Just finished. I revisit once a year. W every new gf lol!😂

[@EricMoore790]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Best episode of the show!

[@oS4ND3RSo]

@@bbt305haha I’m the same, on my 17th watch and showing my new girlfriend it for the first time, we just watched the other 48 days haha. Wa unfortunate one relationship only lasted until “special” 😂 something THAT relationship was not

[@MastaRonin]

Cant wait!

[@angelo8606]

I never thought much about Sawyer missing the heart. To me it was just someone who, like a lot of people, had the wrong idea of where the heart is. The heart is closer to the center of the chest than most people think. But Sawyer didn't know that so he shot the Marshal's left lung instead.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I like to think it was wryly symbolic: Sawyer missing the heart because he didn’t know how to find it yet.

[@Silas-lc9op]

Ragarding Kates love for Jack. I think Anna Lucia summed it up perfectly when she tells Jack " Your hot, shes hot"

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

That's a great line lol!

[@daemon5229]

I appreciate your attempt to redeem Kate, but Im on the Kate hate bandwagon. I have also worked to understand her, but her inability to empathize and put herself in other shoes while acting like her actions are wholly right is her undoing. Her only redeeming quality is her desire to help, but her inability to understand the consequences of her thoughts and actions always causes her to be nothing but a problem for everyone else. She judges harshly but refuses to be judged herself. Kate never redeems herself. If she had just one episode where she realized and admitted she was wrong about killing her "step father" and learned from that, I might have finally seen her as redeemable, but she is borderline sociopathic. I love your videos and hope you choose to keep making more. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your content!

[@jamescarr1265]

For me she’s just annoying and makes dumb decisions

[@lordspuddington3012]

There he is! I've been waiting for a new video, and here it is! I'm only just starting the video, but I know it'll be a good one as always!

[@christianthorpe935]

Love seeing your Patreon list grow! Thanks again for all your hard work!

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

And you're one of my OG patrons, Christian! Been with me for pretty much the whole journey. Your ongoing support is truly humbling 🙏

[@raeliho]

I love this series so much -both LOST and your episode guide😊Kate is also one of my favourite characters so I really appreciate your in depth character analysis of her. I love Walkabout, but the episode that really got me hooked was White Rabbit. Thanks so much for your efforts❤

[@joerhyne593]

I love this channel! Nothing has truly captivated me like Lost did

[@irynakalychak6821]

Despite her lack of experience in acting, Lili did absolutely amazing work! She is a better actress than many experienced ones. Kate was brilliantly portrayed by her from the very beginning. I loved her character as well as the other main characters on the show. Lost was my obsession!

[@JuanitaJones-cn7lx]

Not really. I'm not saying that Lilly was a bad actress. But it was pretty obvious that she had improved greatly by early Season Two. If they had went ahead and killed off Jack and made Kate the leader, I could not see Lilly in the role. She did not have the maturity and the presence in 2004 to portray the leader of a group of plane survivors. Yes, I realize Michelle Rodriguez had done just that with the Tail Section survivors a year later. And she is a year older than the other actress. But Evangeline Lilly was no Michelle Rodriguez.

[@Silas-lc9op]

I never knew why Kate wanted to leave the island. I assume another reason to run and leave, like she does. I know if I was in her situation, I'd want to stay

[@samnabawy2731]

Because if they got rescued, she's going to jail. If she leaves on a raft or a helicopter, she can slip out and run at the right time.

[@mykhaylogarmash3217]

I love your work and dedication, one of the best YT channels out there

[@Hornsby_Shackleton]

A few thoughts: -That first clip is a hilarious way to start the discussion of the Kate Hate. -"Hate for Kate is overStated." This is the kind of subtle wordsmithery that elevates this channel. Also the top tier media analysis, but the rhyming goes a long way.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I am so pleased that someone noticed that haha!

[@Rachel-ek9sd]

So excited for this video! Love your channel so much. I’ve rewatched all your videos so many times. Thanks for everything you do!

[@katelyns9393]

Can’t wait for you to tie up the Kate hate rebuttal with “I saved you a bullet.” Never thought about it with quite this nuance, but after hearing what you said, this is a perfect end to Kate’s arc, considering that she steps up and takes care of the problem instead of running away or manipulating someone else to be her proxy. She knows that there *is* no one else at that point, and fully embraces “live together, die alone”. In the end, she is with Jack to solve the Locke problem. Forget “strong female character”, that’s just strong character development.

[@msto1987]

I will concede that I have a blind spot when it comes to whatever Character terry o Quinn is playing. So from ny obviously right (tongue in cheek) point of view Kate was nasty to john and pushed him over the edge to kill himself -checkmark in Kate sux category, and Kate "i saved a bullet for you" she then killed the MIB who was the true heir ti the island (I'm special) and the righteous original "good guy" as he slayed the original evil (mother) and just wanted to go home. Jacob took up the cause of mother so since Jacob took up the cause of evil he is evil (he kidnaps people and sentences them to certain death on an island) and anyone who supports team Jacob is a trash POS bad guy. Much love for the discourse

[@megandufour1013]

I was never a huge Kate fan but with every rewatch i learn to love her more and more! This video also makes me understand her more and appreciate her more! Thank you for that! Can’t wait for a Juliet episode! She is my favorite

[@obenohnebohne]

LOST is such a great, layered, character driven show. Thanks for your work. I never was a Kate-hater. On later rewatches, I find her background less exciting than others, but she is a strong and important character in the show. Yes, the writers didn’t use her full potential, but Evangeline Lilly did an incredible job of fleshing out Kate’s character.

[@MrPiratjen]

Great work as everything else on this channel. I look forward to the next episode!

[@mouhssinebouregga]

Omg you're seriously doing a hard work in these videos, thank god I found your Chanel at the right time, if you didn't show up I would have gone crazy ! This show is very complicated ! Thanks to your efforts I do understand what's going on now ❤ . . . . Don't stop keep going we need you here bro 😁

[@PixelRatedGames]

your videos are ace and you have made an INSANE amount of material!

[@ragragrec1]

been waiting for this!!

[@Melkepletten]

Love your videos! You are a true phiLOSTopher :)

[@jamessmith1652]

I watched Lost as it aired and participated frequently on Lost TV forums and there was never any particular "Kate hate".

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Yes, it’s interesting. I only really started to come across “Kate hate” in the postscript of the series. You are far more likely to encounter it now on Reddit and Facebook (and in a few comments under this very video!). But by no means do I think it is a majority held opinion.

[@jamessmith1652]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Interesting, I am getting back into this. I think I will do a rewatch and see what the Reddit commotion is about haha. thanks!

[@FrenchmansFlats51]

the problem with kate is that her backstory is simple and overdone. just one or two would have sufficed, instead we got half a dozen all saying the same thing. in contrast island mystery is sketch and brief and rarely repeated. when i rewatch, keep the remote handy to skip kate, rewatch island mystery.

[@exhaustpipes]

been rewatching one episode a day since the anniversary. glad to be back on the island

[@buddystewart2020]

Another fine example of why I love this show, and this channel. See ya in another life brotha... I never really understood all the Kate hate. I liked her. I do prefer her when she's not bouncing between Jake and Sawyer though.

[@guizhangchen1999]

You really should also make a supercut of every time they say "Lost" on the show while you're at it. I was devastated when I found out there wasn't one on YoutTube already.

[@gingersaurus01]

i’ve been a fan since season 5 aired but only in the last couple years found the fandom and was genuinely so surprised by the amount of hate she got! she’s not my favourite character but the hate ppl have for her is so unfounded and so rooted in misogyny whether they realise or not 🥲 she’s such an interesting character and Lilly plays her so well, thank you for the deep dive !!

[@commie_maybe]

I feel like Sawyer missing the shot to the heart could just be due to the fact that many people (including myself) are misinformed as to where the heart actually is. It's not as far to the left or as high up in the body as some people think. Again, not to be a smartass. I used to think my heart was practically in my damn shoulder. lol.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Yes that is also a distinct possibility! A lot of people think the heart is dead in the middle of the chest.

[@pieroog]

I met few people with her demeanor and I wish I didn't. However, while she was insufferable to me, she still wasn't the worst.

[@bootsieglendinning2775]

Completely insufferable.

[@Quasihamster]

Sometimes the best character "arcs" are more akin to a rollercoaster. A rollercoaster can sometimes just stop or even go in reverse, it's all part of the plan.

[@jamescarr1265]

This is definitely a way to describe jack shepherd or John Locke

[@fridaymorningdanceparty5687]

Dammit, I forgot to turn notifications on. Sorry I’m late to the party. I am so pumped to watch this video.

[@fridaymorningdanceparty5687]

Question for you. My 12 year old son is watching the show for the first time and is just starting season 6, do you think it’ll be easier to follow for him if I tell him what the secondary story is or let him wait and find out? Just curious

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I would let him watch it through for the first time without any spoilers or explanations. Let him experience it purely so he can get the full impact of the surprises. After it ends, if he has questions or confusions then you can start discussing the details with him. The show opens up lots of thought avenues, no matter what the age. I think he will have questions but within those questions lie the most rewarding conversations that you can have between the two of you. That would be my advice :-)

[@M4ke4l]

Aw man those are very cool, can't wait to see the next ones.

[@travisraggs2787]

love it. you should do individual character video essays at some point,that’d be rad!

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I’m hoping to cover all of the character arcs in these videos, so you will get a complete picture of all the main players over time.

[@donm5354]

Good video - showing Kate was a powerful and strong but flawed character that became a key part of LOST as Lilly grew into the character and made it her own. The few people I knew who hated Kate were women. Maybe some of them saw Kate in themselves? I see parts of myself in Hugo, Locke and Jack. I had no idea that originally Jack was to be killed off and essentially replaced by Kate. Glad the showrunners decided to change that.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Initially when crafting the Pilot episode, the idea was to introduce Jack as the lead then kill him off at the end of the episode. They wanted to cast Michael Keaton in the role and build a lot of the promotional material around his star casting, only to then pull the rug out from beneath the audience. Basically, what happens to the Pilot in the cockpit is what would have happened to Keaton’s Jack. Killed by the monster and his pulverised body dropped in a tree! But the network put the kibosh on that idea. Like you, I’m glad that never happened! It would have been a shock but it also would have robbed the show of a character who the series came to be built around. Fascinating part of the show’s early development process though!

[@docspopreviews4395]

I recently rewatched Lost with my wife on Netflix. Kate never really grows as a character-always on the run, going back and forth between Jack and Sawyer, always going back etc

[@radagast7200]

Kate is one of my all-time favorite female protagonists. I did not like her in the Hobbit movies though. Due to the character, not her acting.

[@dakota7314]

Wait Kate is in the Hobbit? Thought that was Evangeline... you learn something new every day!

[@Jamesbull46]

Thank you I couldn't remember where I saw this Beautiful lady at before.

[@blucaptain]

Imagine a plot line of Jack saving the Marshall but he has amnesia. The tension from Kate and the viewers knowing but he has no idea during interactions (is he remembering flashes or is he oblivious). Maybe it would stunt the growth of Kate’s character from the path they wanted to use. Probably an over played plot line and glad it’s not there. But….. …some things the Marshall would say sarcastically could be funny to us (alarming to Kates flight response) or building on the idea of a second chance on the island (where her flight response to him would go away) only to have the reality off the island and accountability of her previous actions would hit her character harder (Oceanic 7? Sawyer jumping would still make sense due to weight). We could be shown that the Marshall is testifying, but as the Marshall or on her behalf as his Island self- tension for us and Kate not knowing. It could of worked while looking cheap in the beginning He might of even sided with Jack; being at his core, more pragmatic and seeing things as purely black and white. But the shock of him going from a hard-nose Marshall to being all about destiny on the island is a thought. Flashbacks of him chasing Kate would have weight for both characters Maybe this is too much of a thought tho. Interested to hear constructive thoughts - not trying to provoke hateful lil quibs

[@sevval2806]

I was loving Kate at the beginning but as through the ending jack-kate-sawyer love triangle really gets boring. And since she is the center of this crisis her story becomes boring. She was represented as a woman who can't just decide the man she loves. When she was with sawyer in season 3, jack and juliet started flirting and we saw kate was uncomfortable with it. When they got rescued, we saw kate-jack were engaged, but it didn't work. Still, it was clear that jack loves her so they were in a complicated situation. Then they went back to the island and saw sawyer-juliet have been in love for 3 years and happy. Even her past with jack and sawyer's present with juliet, an awkard atmosphere was created between these two. It seemed like the writers were trying to push kate-sawyer at background. When juliet died and we get to the end, kate told jack she loves him and show ended with kate-jack love in the purgatory. Love her for her work in the island but after a certain time, I couldn't stand that love triangle and kate's uncertainity about her feelings towards jack-sawyer.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I think this is very fair and astute criticism of the character. Her being the lynchpin of the love triangle was a detriment to her arc and development in those first few seasons in particular. I think it was tempered more in those final seasons as she had her own goals and motivations beyond the triangle, like dealing with her own fugitive past, raising Aaron and going back to find Claire.

[@cherokeegirl47]

It just always seems that Kate”s selfishness costs those within the same vicinity. She escapes accountability at the expense of others.

[@StevenMilazzo]

Kate is my favorite character…. I can’t stand that people talk bad about her.

[@GöstaHöstasson]

Kate is the worst character in Lost. She only have looks on her side that is why some like her

[@jamescarr1265]

@@GöstaHöstassonshe can’t be the worst when Zoey exists 😂

[@GöstaHöstasson]

@@jamescarr1265 True but worst of the big characters at least :)

[@jamescarr1265]

@@GöstaHöstasson I agree. Claire is also very boring.

[@Fredney40]

Kate was my crush

[@guyledouche7939]

Evangeline Lily best described Kate in an interview where she answers Google questions, "What did Evangeline Lily do on Lost?" And the first thing she said was "Well, I crashed on an island. I flirted with two boys..."

[@connors-curiosities]

Hey man, loving these videos! Question, did you use an AI voice for some of your earlier videos? I'm rewatching them all and noticed a massive different in voice

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Yes, that's correct. I didn’t have recording equipment back when the older videos were made so I used a text-to-speech voice. But as the channel grew, so too did the calls for me to get a mic and use my real voice. So, I did just that and remade all of the old videos using my own voice and better quality footage from the show, adding more detail and information as well. The Theory of Everything six-part series contains everything that was touched upon in those earlier, shorter videos.

[@connors-curiosities]

Love it man! I think your voice fits really well with the vids, so I was a bit disappointed when I went back and noticed that ahaha

[@connors-curiosities]

Have you got a discord at all?

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I don’t have a Discord, mainly because I have no idea how to use the platform lol!

[@chibikohyuga3875]

I never knew "everyone" hated Kate. I never did.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

It’s not everyone, only some. But they are very vocal. If you’ll scroll through the comments you will see multiple takes from those who have nothing good to say about her. To me, it’s never made sense considering the nature of various characters on the show. Sawyer, Ben, and even the Man in Black, all will receive passionate defences from many of the same fans too. They think Kate was the worst thing to happen to The Island. It’s a really weird social phenomenon within the fanbase. I don’t agree with their criticisms. If they hold Kate to a higher standard than the aforementioned male characters then I find that to be a rather *double* standard. If Sawyer gets a pass, Kate should get a pass. They are similar characters. The major difference is that Kate is a woman and the linchpin of a divisive love triangle.

[@chibikohyuga3875]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Ah, I see. "Some". My bad. I always found her character intriguing. I always found all the characters intriguing actually. I fell in love with the show for its characters. I recall, when I was younger (when the show first came out and I was watching each episode as it was released), I remember losing interest around season 3 and then stopped watching at season 4/5.... It was back in 2023 that I decided to rewatch it again and found that the seasons beyond season 3 were really great. I LOVE the whole show of lost. That is when I discovered your channel, after I watched the entire series through. I remember, when I was younger, thinking the later seasons were very silly. Now, I find that they are very moving and... Fantastic.... It is a very great show and I feel that the ending is so very good. Thank you for making videos on Lost. :) They are very interesting and they make me enjoy the show even more.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

That’s really delightful to hear! Thank you for letting me know 🙏

[@garax1548]

Hey, I’ve watched most of your videos and haven’t really seen this spoken about but maybe I’ve missed it. I was just wondering, do you know how they decided who would survive the island? So Kate, Sawyer etc. It’s always seemed really odd to me that they got to survive, but Jin and Sun didn’t

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

They always knew that Jack would survive until the last scene and the show would end with his death. I think they also always planned for Locke to eventually meet his demise and that to be the turning point in the show. But as for other characters who died and those who survived to the end, it was mostly down to what the writers felt worked best for the story/audience at the time. If we were to break down the logic behind those final choices... Jin and Sun's deaths were designed to help contextualise just how dangerous the Man in Black was to the group and to give us extra reason to hate him as the arch villain. We needed a tragic set of main characters deaths to help do that. I think Kate couldn't die because Jack's final fate was never in doubt, so the woman he loved had to live on so he could have a victory/comfort in his final moments. Whereas Sawyer and Hurley were both too wildly popular to kill off -- I think they knew that killing off the fan favourites would have left a bitter aftertaste. However, we could tinker with the show in our heads to come up with an alternative set of survivors. Example: Sawyer dies in the finale in a moment that redeems his actions on the submarine, while Jin survives the sub to go back to raise Ji Yeon.

[@msto1987]

Kate is THE WORST. she is completely selfish and motivated strictly by her own selfish motivations. She is a liar, a cheater, a murderer and kidnapper, who couldn't follow orders and always messed things up. John (the most selfless character on the show) asks her to help her friends and asks if she even cares and she laughs in his face and insults him...only to do what he wanted her to do after she basically bullied John into suicide. Her absolute selfishness is what sets her apart from every other character on the show. F Kate, you don't get to do 1 good thing and think that makes up for her being trash for 5 1/2 seasons. Kate is the worst edit... as always your videos are the best and you are the LOST authority, and I am remiss if I didn't say thank you

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I hear ya, but we can take those exact same criticisms you have made of Kate and apply them to someone like Sawyer. He is also a liar and a murderer (who killed an innocent man in cold blood); he is always frustrating the plans of the group because of his own twisted hangups and schemes; he hoards supplies, he bullies and belittles, he is bigoted, he is cruel to animals, he even gets several of our main characters killed in the final season when he messes with the bomb. Now, there are reasonable explanations for all of the behaviours and flaws in both characters, but I find it fascinating how Kate is held to a higher standard than Sawyer is, even though he is by far and away the more problematic personality between them, especially in the first couple of seasons. Both characters have flaws and do questionable things in their own self-interest, and both eventually overcome those flaws in the final half of the series. I honestly think a lot of this comes down to likeability factor. Sawyer, even when he's being absolutely horrid, is simply more charming, and audiences love a bad boy. He gets to be the rogue. Whereas Kate becomes the lynchpin of a love triangle and languishes for a couple of seasons as the object of affections, and that makes her less likeable because of the flip-flopping between men. However, I maintain that Kate did no worse than Sawyer on or off the island and that they should at least be judged equally. Also, if the fanbase can embrace a selfish sociopathic personality like Ben (who genuinely puts everyone in harms way for his own ends quite frequently) then they can give poor old Kate a break lol! She's in no way *that* bad, at least not from where I am sitting. p.s. thank you for the kind words added at the end there! I hope to strike up some more of these debates going forward as I think they are really fun and illuminating. I'm going to wade into the love/hate debates around several other major characters very soon too, including Locke, Jack and Charlie. All of them have vocal fans and vocal detractors. It's gonna get wild!

[@msto1987]

@LOSTEXPLAINED108 no problem, it's not hard to say kind words when they are true. And I am not saying sawyer or any other lostie isn't a terrible person... they all are. It's just that Kate is the worst becuase of selfishness. Every other character had self motivation but not the sole motivation and that's where her problem stems from. The only 2 characters in my opinion who had the right priority (the island, as it is the source of all) john, who we know what Kate did to him, and Ben, who foe all his thirst for power always knew the island was priority #1(see alex) the rest of them were tr a sh people but I enjoyed there journey and story none the less. Thanks for the dialog, and massive respect for your dedication and overall awesomeness

[@RealWolfgangTV]

Never in my wildest dreams would I ever have imagined reading people who disagree on KZbin comments be so respectful 😂 faith in humanity restored a little bit. Keep up the good videos!

[@msto1987]

@GenshinIntervention normally is am overwhelmed with hate for this exact take, but this guys channel is like the mecca of LOST and I would never dare disrespect him (if possible)

[@RealWolfgangTV]

@msto1987 it's kinda crazy cuz I totally see both of your points so like to me even, both of yall are kinda right 😆 For me, in the same line of reasoning yall already based your opinions on, I'd have to say I have a particular distaste for Jack's character and motivations up until maybe the last season

[@ASkyy166]

Rewatching Lost (fav show ever cause of the cast and their great acting) for like the 20th time, but first time with my boyfriend who has only seen season 1. We are on season 4 episode 5! Started like two weeks ago lol ❤😊and …. I LOVE KATE!

[@commie_maybe]

1:49 I swear, toward the end of the show, I was getting tired of hearing, "Can I talk to you in private?" 😁

[@scotthumpage2153]

Freckles is my favourite. Claire is my second, I think the whole sawyer love triangle is what puts her in a bad light but she loves jack where she lusts sawyer, I also think she uses sawyer to hurt jack when ever he dosent want her on a mission lol

[@TheDarkSideOfIndustry]

They should have got Willem Dafoe to play the Marshall lol

[@beyondz55]

It's tough. She's typically great on island and in the flashforwards but her backstory is definitely flawed a bit.

[@zoocha]

I recently played through the lost video game "via domus" and it had a lot of interesting things considered canon as well as a confusing plot that lines up with events on the show. I haven't seen many people talk about it in a real way. Would you consider making content on the lost game?

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I've never actually played Via Domus before as I'm not much of a gamer. However, I am aware of the general story and I have used the still of "the incident room" from the game several times throughout my videos. It is a really cool depiction of what the button was discharging on the other side of that barrier.

[@tmoore4075]

I loved that outros with the music because the songs were always great. Yes they were corny but whoever picked the songs had good taste imo.

[@jennaalcalaa]

I never realized Kate was so hated. I’ve been obsessed with Lost for so long, but I never spent time on the forums or really even discussing with other people because I felt like I was always trying to convince people that my favorite show was, in fact, good… and that’s annoying. I’ve always loved Kate and identified with her most of all the original characters. I love a complicated female character who is smart, strong, and self sufficient.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

She is vocally hated by a portion of the fanbase but by no means is that hatred as widespread as it seems. It comes from Reddit and Facebook threads about her, which themselves stem from old forum discussions many moons ago. I think she splits opinion - some of whom absolutely love her and those who intensely dislike her. What I don’t like is the vitriolic nature of the criticism. It gets very ugly sometimes. I personally have never understood people who get that enraged by fictional characters. I’ve always liked Kate - she’s a great wild card character - although the writing for her in Seasons Two and Three trapped her in that love triangle stasis. I think she came into her own more in the second half of the series once she got storylines that went beyond the dynamics with Jack and Sawyer.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Doesn't help that the showrunners were openly sexist. When asked which three people he would want to spend time on the island with? I recall he told a fan he would choose Kate because he wanted some eye candy. And now all the revelations that came out in the new book about misogyny and racism and so on the production of the show... It's definitely disappointing

[@selimkhaniyev7764]

Hello bro please enter the turkish subtitle,i cant explain how love this series,but i cant understand anything

[@christianthorpe935]

iyi şanslar!

[@IAmRedherrings]

I really hope you do continue doing these 🙏

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Absolutely, I’ve got Walkabout coming soon (hopefully end of this week). It’s already live on my Patreon and would have dropped on YT last weekend but I’ve got to wait for those pesky copyright strikes to lift first.

[@tinygold772]

I didn’t even know there was Kate hate. I felt in her interactions with men off the island she only responded manipulatively because of the obvious predicable effect she had on them, to be immediately desired. I imagine this was tiring, considering it was something she had to endure continually with her stepfather. It’s no wonder she used this to her advantage whenever she could to survive

[@samuelrhenley7863]

Also I would like to know if you’ve heard of the Philadelphia experiment about the uss elderridge? And the military organization DARPA?

[@ATMyles]

Another excellent video. It’s no reflection on your work, but I still don’t understand the Kate hate. She’s a flawed, complex character who grows over time and redeems herself. She’s gutsy and heroic, as well as very easy on the eyes. She kills the Man in Black! Also, as murders go, her father had it coming. People, save your ire for Nikki and Paulo!

[@islandplace7235]

I never figured people did dislike her, never heard that was a thing.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I don't think it's an overwhelming majority, just a significant, vocal contingent of the fanbase in places like Reddit and Facebook. I think a majority of audiences don't even judge characters in stories all that harshly, they tend to go with the flow. As long as characters don't act "out of character" for the sake of moving the plot along, people don't tend to take issue. Usually, if there is a wide dislike of a character it comes down to either the nature of their role within the story (villains get a lot of hate from the public, like the poor guy who played Joffrey on Game of Thrones) or it is about a general dislike of the actor playing the character. Out of the millions of people who watched LOST, I honestly don't think Kate was hated by majority numbers.

[@sara092]

I think the writers did her wrong. They kept pushing the idea of her and Jack while pairing her with Sawyer too. I feel like they didn't know where they were going with this or actually did, but that strike changed the plot, idk. How do you point to things like she was really heartbroken by Sawyer, tried to heal by taking care of Aaron, probably tried it with Jack off the island for that same reason (but of course that didn't work for many other reasons), and then again push the idea that they were soul mates 😂 That's the reason why I don't like the ending. The mind games that were played on the island and the psychological journey Kate went through didn't match the ending plot.

[@rahbeeuh]

It amazes me how this show progressed from being stranded on a mysterious island to the spiral stories that stitched together by the final episode. At first I found myself disliking Kate but it had more to do with her romantic flip flop (Skate or Jate?). After rethinking it, my dislike has more to do with who Kate became when she was with either guy. I liked Kate when her stories weren't about the guys in her life on or off the island. Those were her better moments imo.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I agree - Kate was always at her most compelling when she was dealing with her own baggage and storylines. I think the writers recognised this (eventually) and made Kate’s main mission in the final two seasons about going back for Claire. Kate’s whole arc was about getting her to stop running away and to stand and face her past actions and mistakes, but she didn’t really get to start doing that until the latter half of the series. I agree she was kept in stasis with the love triangle, but so were many other aspects of the general storytelling during that period.

[@rahbeeuh]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 so glad the writers eventually realized how to develop Kate as her own character. I agree that other aspects at the start were also in stasis. I think Kate not being set in a specific place was another part of why I initially didn't like her. When I understood that was part of her character I liked her character more. I tend to have trouble seeing the bigger picture but once I got a grasp on it I think it helped me understand better (even the show). Makes for a better viewing experience imo.

[@soundberry]

I just recently finished watching the whole show for the first time and I started rewatching again. By the end I deffinetly disliked Kate but starting from the beginning again I remembered that I liked her in s1. The reason why I grew to dislike her is mainly because of the stupid love triangle. I don't like them to begin with, but the one in lost is irritating because Kate could either end up with Jack or Sawyer and I don't like either options. Jack on one of the earliest episodes says to Kate that he doesn't care about what she did because what matters to him is who she is now (which is really cute) but in later episodes whenever something goes wrong he always seems to suspect Kate (+ there's the fact that he's way too overprotective). Kate and Sawyer is actually alright later on but some of the s1 scenes ruin the ship for me.. Also tell me how a fugitive who managed to stay on the run for so long gets captured, released and captured again in the same episode 😭 One last thing that really bothered me (although I know this isn't the character's fault but the creator's fault) is how often Kate got sexualized, it always made me feel uncomfortable. But what I like about Kate is her friendships with Sun, Claire and Sayid (although we don't see much of them later on :( ) and her storyline with Aaron

[@chriswest8389]

Steely Dan must hate her:” Katie Lied”

[@cedricpierre7826]

Kate always though she was right when she wasn’t almost everytime

[@Haufpunk]

Dude, is there a release schedule for this rewatch?

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I am going to try my best to keep videos coming each month. In an ideal world, I would like to release one every two weeks, but that would require me to make them full-time and, as of yet, the channel isn't quite justifying a 24/7 commitment. If subs continue to increase and ad revenue goes up a bit more, or I get more patrons, I'll be able to invest extra time into the project and speed up the release schedule.

[@Haufpunk]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 No worries. I'll flip the usual rewatch process on its head. I'll wait until your episode drops and then watch the episode after that. That way it will be fresh in my mind.

[@rulas_6656]

I was just wondering since I dont remember very well eveything, when Sawyer & Co go back in time and they merge with the Dharma, Sawyer start talking with Richard, but did he ever meet him before that moment? and if not how did he knew who he was? and he start talking about how he's waiting for john locke to came back, how did he knew this?

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I believe that is their first scene together but it's worth remembering that Juliet has been with Sawyer's group the whole time (she is in the house with Sawyer when Richard shows up at the barracks). We see her telling the Oceanic survivors about The Others at various points, including specifically mentioning Richard to Locke. So, we can assume Sawyer learned about Richard from her too. Sawyer says to Richard the following: "I also know that 20 years ago, some bald fella limped into your camp and fed you some mumbo jumbo about being your leader. And then poof... he went and disappeared right in front of ya. Any of this ringin' a bell? That man's name is John Locke, and I'm waitin' for him to come back." Sawyer was saying that he himself is waiting for Locke to come back, not that he thinks Richard is waiting for Locke. He only references events that he is aware of having taken place in some form.

[@rulas_6656]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 This def makes more sense thank you, everytime I'm doubtful about something in Lost I know where to ask ;)

[@rulas_6656]

ok I'm in the middle of a rewatch and atleast one time Sawyer heard the name of Richard, in S5 ep 03 during Juliet's conversation with the captured Others in Latin she says "Ricardo Alpert"​@@LOSTEXPLAINED108

[@paolaferrari66]

Grazie, sempre grazie per le condivisioni! Personalmente penso che Kate sull'isola è la persona che più ha convertito la sua vita precedente. Semplicemente ha smesso di scappare ed ha cominciato ad essere. Come donna è stata la contraddizione e la divisione contraddittoria sentimentale, carnale e passionale e...ma se fosse stata uomo a farlo forse avrebbero perdonato😂 grazie ed un abbraccio grande e pieno di gratitudine dall'Italia! ❤

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Sono d'accordo con te! 🙏

[@paolaferrari66]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 💕🙏

[@totemmechanics1]

I only started watching this because of the weird C4 advert with the opera theme I was like what is that?! after two episodes though the only reason I kept watching was because Evangeline Lilly was in it😉 she was lovely and so cool at the same time, then the mystery deepened and they clearly were making one of the cleverest TV programmes of all time so I had to watch it all like 10 times tbf maybe 15 once Desmond and time travel were introduced

[@debater452]

I just fell like Kate and more specially the love triangle draged down some characters especially during season 2.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

That’s very fair. And I agree with this. Season Two and Three dragged the love triangle plot line out to breaking point.

[@shaunthompson1145]

Next one can’t be far away now

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Almost! It’s already live on my Patreon, I’m just waiting for the copyright strikes to clear on KZbin. Hoping it will be this week or next! 🙏

[@peterwoods8610]

Possible spoiler alert I think Mikhail lost his eye by the hands of Jin in the sideways flash, in the restaurant kitchen scene with Keamy & Sun.....😊

[@jamescarr1265]

Omg you’re right

[@spectrum_98]

You should make a video on the theory that Kate was pregnant by Jack on the second flight to the island and that David (in the flash sideways/ purgatory) is actually Jack and Kate's son and not a construct of Jack's mind to work through his daddy issues. The second time they flew out to the island, Eloise said that they should recreate events of the first flight on Oceanic ... And indeed most of them were recreated, like there was a coffin on the plane, a prisoner, someone with a guitar, a married woman, and what's left? A pregnant woman! And that's Kate.... I read this theory a lot and someone very smartly pointed out the recreation of events... And apparently Kate's pregnancy and David being her and Jack's son was confirmed by an executive product on Twitter and by Eva. Lilly herself on Instagram? Would love to hear your take on this... I need to know if there is any trurh to this so I can rest lol Thanks

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I did touch upon this in my video of the sideways and talk about that theory towards the end of the analysis: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enmkiJh9lJWbhs0

[@samnabawy2731]

Kate is awesome. I think unfortunately she gets hate for things that both Sawyer and Sayid get a pass for. If she was a man, fans would have called her badass and a great antihero. Kate is resourceful, brave, a little dodgy and broken yet loyal. If she was a dude, fans would be saying she's a complex character, however, she's written off as annoying because we are not used to seeing her type of female characters.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Exactly! If she had been a male character she would have been closer to a Sawyer type - a criminal interested in self-preservation - and we know the fandom embraces him without many reservations, despite some of his extremely ugly behaviour during the first two seasons. He is far more of a problem to the group than Kate ever was. So, I tend to agree with your take on this. It’s certainly an unfair double standard. That’s not to say that Kate’s arc doesn’t get frustrated by all of the love triangle melodrama (I think the writing for her is uneven in Seasons Two and Three) but she gets much better material once she is off the island and decides to go back on her own terms.

[@samnabawy2731]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 The love triangle didn't bother me much because in my opinion it was handled better than love triangles in other shows. It did not last the entire series. It was explored more in depth in season 2 and 3, and a little in season 4. Kate was indeed confused by her feelings for Sawyer and Jack and the actress portrayed that perfectly. It did not bother me as much as Sayid falling "in love" with Shannon while he claimed he was searching for Nadia, then just going back to Nadia like he never fell in love with Shannon, and I say this because Sayid is my favorite character. Kate is a complex character. I always hated how in season 2 and 3, Jack excluded her from missions. I would have her on my team any day.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

To be honest, I quite enjoyed the love triangle too. But I do see the criticism of how Kate’s character became the lynchpin of that triangle for those two seasons, and that became her only major storyline essentially. At least until she got off the island. But then we could make that case for several characters who get trapped in stasis between Season 1-3 because the story had to spin its wheels. I still like Kate and think she is a great character on the show. Never agreed with the hate she got. I too would have her on my team if I were on the island, she’s extremely resourceful and loyal to the Oceanic group.

[@Berrygirl6784]

The thing is sawyer not comitted to anyone kate technically in love with jack and get jealous when jack talk with other women its not cause she women pls get ur point rit....

[@Berrygirl6784]

​​@@LOSTEXPLAINED108sawyer is not in love with anyone... but kate is.... with jack and get jealous when jack hangout with other women.......

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

She has her hateable moments, just like many other liked characters. But still cant hate the character itself.

[@zulina9508]

The real villian in Lost: Jack

[@AliciaGuitar]

Can you address how Sun's baby got a raw deal and theories that might soften that? I like to imagine she ended up friends with Aaron or even adopted by Claire, but how when her evil grandparents have her now 😢

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I will eventually get around to discussing all of the raw deals that characters got as a result of The Island's machinations (and some of the writersroom more questionable choices). This episode guide will cover it all, including all of the Jin and Sun storylines.

[@greatestjourney6412]

The Marshall was also not a candidate

[@Buffy8Fan]

SPOILERS FOR _LOST_ (OBVIOUSLY), _FORREST GUMP_ AND _INSIDE OUT 2_ I always viewed the hate Kate attitude (at least from what I've seen) from fans as some of them thinking her playing people against each other is a flaw in the writing when it is her character's attitude because she is on the run. The same thing happens with _Forrest Gump_ fans hating on Jenny for her childhood effecting why she doesn't stick around with Forrest. Both characters have have reasons behind their bad behavior, but are still critisized by some without those some understanding why they act that way. You might as well say Riley in the Inside Out 2 movie is evil. It just doesn't work that way.

[@buckdancer8916]

I still think Jenny was pretty mean to Forrest it’s not like he had it easy either she was obviously traumatised but that doesn’t excuse all bad behaviour Xander Harris often alludes to absent parents his still a jerk to Cordy and Willow and Anya !

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I agree that some audiences tend to conflate intentional character flaws with flaws in the actual narrative or the writing itself.

[@Buffy8Fan]

@@buckdancer8916 Xander Harris sticks around to yell at his friends and hold their issues against them (not just who you mentioned, but Buffy, Giles, Riley and others, as well). Jenny deals by not being around and, sadly, that is how she needs to get better. Perhaps Forrest could have helped, but he also live too close to where it all happened. And Jenny clearly has trouble with that. Forrest also didn't comprehend exactly what happened. It's not a coincidence that Xander's true turning point of dealing with his issues starts in the comics after Sunnydale is destroyed (the place where his dad was abusive). The same works for Jenny as well. Both characters issues are understandable even if pepople don't always like their actions. And that was the point of my original comment: the difference between intentional character issues and actions vs writing flaws.

[@teejay8258]

How could anyone hate Kate? She was amazing (and acted so beautifully by Evangeline).

[@AleksandarIvanov69]

I was one of those fans and still am. She never redeem herself for me even after 6 seasons. I don't know why exactly but she is so unlikable to me. Even Charlotte got to kind of likable state and that says a lot about how unlikable Kate is in my eyes 😂 P.s. I've been rewatching my other favorite series from the 2000s Fringe and i gotta say it is a masterclass at writing characters and especially a female lead. It is nothing like the modern "strong whamen character" trope. Characters written under that trope don't feel human... Olivia is one of the most human characters on TV ever.

[@melrupinski88]

Delirious with fever and annoyed with Kate? I’ll throw my vote with this choice…I never hated Kate, but overall (not all the time) I found the character to be fairly annoying.

[@VSMOKE1]

Let's go I'm here for every single breakdown of every single episode going to be unique going through the seasons like this

[@aysheetabassum5300]

I am 7 episodes in and already her name makes my blood boil. The series could have made her the biggest threat (A SERIAL KILLER). I was so optimistic when I found out she was the one in handcuffs. She was manipulative, viciously kind. Not only did they wasted her potential there, they totally made her so annoying. How does she become this love interest of Jack in the very first episode? Every man she meets, has a crush on her. She was a trophy for the male counterparts and a flag of toxic femininity. She is given so much importance in dire situations which was completely unnecessary. **** her. And the series altogether is so illogical. Like, Why did they did not eat the polar bear???

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I hope you are not still on your first watch? This episode guide is for people who have already seen the whole show. It’s full of spoilers. 😳

[@aysheetabassum5300]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Actually, it's my first watch. See, my problem is, I can't tolerate wasted potentials and illogical choices. It pinches my head. So, I am giving up watching LOST. 7 episodes are enough.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Fair enough. It’s not for everyone.

[@hertz_me]

kate was hot

[@bratanyaroslav3561]

lol, you literally bring up one of the annoying aspects as a supposedly redeeming characteristic: You compare Kate (25 years old) to Locke (52 years old), because they both go against the group. She is even in the trusted inner group despite not being trustworthy. Boone was 25 years old (at least the actor was), and look at the difference in behaviour and privilege of Boone vs Claire, especially in their interaction with Jack. Boone is wise enough to know that people who are 15 years older than him might have more experience

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

The point was that Locke doesn’t get the same level of hate for the same behaviours, neither does Sawyer. Kate is held to a higher standard in her actions by some fans who will find excuses for the terrible actions of other characters quite often. Boone was not wise lol. He followed Locke to his death because he thought Locke knew what he was doing.

[@domflint1863]

Are you the Coursera plus guy it's uncanny if not

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I don't even know what Coursera is lol.

[@domflint1863]

Seriously the guy who did these videos a few years ago. Coursera advert it

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

@@domflint1863 Na, you'll have to link it.

[@actionaccount8307]

Who would watch LOST without Kate?

[@Klugger]

Yeah need someone who always gets caught by the enemy and gets everyone horny

[@Amberlynn_Reid]

Blind people

[@55tranquility]

Kate was my favourite character, she was a brilliant character. I never understood why her crime was made to be this terrible thing, she saved her mom and herself from a violent abuser - i saw this story as a reflection of double standards.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

I think whichever way we look at it, Kate still committed murder. Yes, Wayne was a horrible, abusive sleaze. I wasn’t sorry to see him go boom. But she didn’t kill him in a moment of self-defence or in a way that the law might take a sympathetic view on. It was a very carefully planned premeditated act of cold blooded murder. And Kate was treated like any premeditated killer, it didn’t matter what her motives were. So, while I view her crime as understandable in many ways, it was treated as a terrible act by the law for justifiable reasons. Her mother saw it this way too, which is why she called the cops on her own daughter. Kate’s actions were ultimately wrong. As the great philosopher Buffy Summers once said: you can’t beat evil by doing evil.

[@55tranquility]

@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 i forgive her, she can come and live with me! But then she became an Elf …

[@bluesrock4035]

Kate denied it later but it was clearly hinted that his father did something really wrong to her. And not just violence. That explains her behaviour a lot. Can we expect her to be rational and trusting all the time after that? She was feeling better when when she was a good parent to Aaron. After all I think there was a lot of logic in her charater’s behaviour. She was not feeling good mentally for obvious reasons during first seasons.

[@351wmustanggt]

Not only is Kate an awesome character she is also good eye candy.

[@TheSADHU88]

Hi i hate her, for a few reasons , shes a special kind of gold digger, not exactly the material one but one of benefit. She switches from man to man with ease, something she learned in her old life, using men and faking emotions. Luckily for james he didnt fall for her shit for too long and found a really good woman ( Julliet) poor Jack unfotunatelly stayed a sucker to the end reinforcing the opinion that some men never learn

[@KINGD1991]

I HATE KATE

[@lhering]

I always found it curious that the series goes from flash backs in the early seasons, over flash forwards in season 4 to flash sideways in season 6. They really got all their flashes covered.

[@LOSTEXPLAINED108]

Don’t forget about Desmond’s flashes before his eyes!

[@lhering]

​@@LOSTEXPLAINED108flashes inwards, if you will

[@guyledouche7939]

K8 is Gr8 Don't h8 K8 This aint b8