I first came to Taiwan, Taipei, with my girlfriend, and now wife, in 2014 and, for the most part, found the buildings and city quite ugly. I particularly couldn’t understand why the exterior of buildings were so bad for a lot of places but the interiors and shopfronts were super nice inside. In Australia property owners and town planners spend a lot of time (and money) worrying about the exterior look of homes and buildings. While it makes the place look nicer, it’s a superficial and cosmetic burden to bear. From the many visits to Taipei over the years I’ve come to really appreciate and respect its appearance - I don’t want Taipei or Taiwan to change. There is human depth, honesty, heart and soul to the city that I don’t see or feel very much at home or elsewhere. And from what I once saw as ugly I see now as symbolic that ‘exteriors are superficial as what matters more is deeper than the eye can see’.
@jamesjpn466914 күн бұрын
This is so funny because when I came to Taiwan, I absolutely loved the way it looked. I've never been able to properly put this into words, but I really liked that it was a bit more rough around the edges than Japan-it had more of a lived-in feeling. Sometimes, Japan can feel a bit clinical and too clean to me. Of course, I've never lived in Taiwan, so I'm not sure how long I'd feel that way, but I really loved the way it looked, and I can’t wait to go back there.
@Prozzie14 күн бұрын
I know what you mean. But I'm still surprised since you live in an area that's straight out of an anime
@actuallyUncleTopher14 күн бұрын
I wonder if you never went to China would you have a different impression of Taiwan? I feel that Taipei and Kaohsiung have a "personality"
@ktkace14 күн бұрын
IMHO you are messing up badly managed with personality...
@Prozzie14 күн бұрын
mmmm I think Taiwanese cities look objectively bad. Taiwanese people will say so themselves haha. They aren't dumb
@@zoehsiao3480because they don't give a dam. They only care about money.
@a098711025113 күн бұрын
@@zoehsiao3480 政府無能不作為,要都更真的沒辦法嗎?只有不做,沒有做不到
@FabianRitterG14 күн бұрын
I get the point. As someone who lives in Singapore (born in Chile) and now in Taipei for 2 months. While I agree the buildings are just ugly and I don't think the messiness should be overly romanticised, they just didn't plan it well as you said in the video. This lack of care for outward aesthetic gives me some degree of mental relief and makes me feel quite chill somehow, I can't explain so well but maybe is a way to feel they are more authentic as society and don't care as much in a pretentious image.... It may also be some psychological effect to feel I escaped from the "trying too hard to look good" vibe of Singapore which I was very much not enjoying. I find is curious to see such messily planned cities yet extremely cute details on small thing.. E.g. the fact that every small shop may have their own art crafted to make it look ultra cozy and cute, this is actually quite charming and makes Taiwan to feel quite special. I already love Taiwan a lot in this short time actually. There is something about the people that makes you feel very happy and at peace. Their kindness is very special...
Good video Prozzie. When I lived in Taichung part of the appeal was that it had the nice bits (like Caligraphy Greenway where you were filming towards the end of you video) but also the run down bits. I wouldn't want to live a super clean & sanitised city. I genuinely believe that the Taiwanese people make the cities, always happy to chat and treat you as if you've just arrived, even if you've been there a few years. The amount of times a barista would write on the coffee shop "welcome to Taiwan"...even though I'd lived there ages...loved that! Also, and I don't think this gets mentioned much, but here in the UK every city is a copy of the next one, with all the big chain stores, restaurants and bars, it's so boring. But in Taichung I remember the massive variety of shops, big and small etc, and that's before you even consider the array of night markets.
I like this video idea, but it would be so complicated 🤣Lin Yutang 林語堂 wrote about Chinese culture and I found that book super interesting. In Taiwan you can see many things he wrote about. Some Taiwanese feel they are culturally Chinese (but completely separate from the CCP), and some Taiwanese people feel very strongly about not being associated with Chinese culture at all and want to be Taiwanese, and only Taiwanese. I would have to talk to many Taiwanese people to get a better understanding of how people feel here. It's difficult because everyone feels differently
For some reason, somehow, I just realize that I have never really known my country, and I have never been really familiar with Taiwanese culture. The more I realize, the more I want to discover Taiwan, and the more I feel I love Taiwan.
@fillrobs772614 күн бұрын
Great video mate - completely agree - we live in Beitou and although people may say the mountains are beautiful the town is very old and looks awful. All of it designed in a time before cars - good to see you steering clear of Alan with his dreaded lurgie😂
@SimonTam14 күн бұрын
My wife and I both fell in love with Taiwan immediately (this included after visiting Japan and China), both with the culture as well as the natural landscapes. That being said, we could definitely understand how people suggest the cities are "ugly" - it's true, varying parts of the cities can look objectively gross but there are many other parts that point their way to the future, including Calligraphy Greenway in Taichung, Xinyi District in Taipei, and near the Ai River in Kaohsiung. Are there other less dense areas that haven't been subjected to purely industrial/utilitarian design (maybe Beitou, Yilan, etc)?
@映純凌14 күн бұрын
you are getting deeper understanding about taiwan and making nice videos!
The video explanation is really great. You will have an in-depth understanding to appreciate Taiwan's unique architectural culture. I believe people living in Taiwan will like it even more. 😊❤️🇹🇼
@puichiung29599 күн бұрын
Hey, Prozzie. I enjoyed your video. I live in the U.S. and never been to Taiwan or Japan but I get the former is just more basic and utilitarian and the latter like stylized anime. I live in Houston, Tx, and while some parts look nice, I think most of my city looks pretty ordinary and will never be as favored by tourists as say New York City.
I think Taiwan's 'messy' built landscape has a deep charm. It's human-scaled - nearly always deeply practical, and highly idiosyncratic. There's not too much time and energy spent on keeping up (outward) appearances, and instead the focus is on (inward) comfortable functionality. It's rarely concerned with the grandiose - rather, improvements are small, incremental, constant, and individual. All of which gives the built landscape a really rich texture - you'll find the beauty in the small things, not the big. Just how many doorways and balconies and windows have a multitude of potted plants, even vegetables and fruit trees, never ceases to amaze me. The last decade or two have seen continuous improvements in civic architecture and spaces that are really lovely, but again reflect that extremely Taiwanese focus on practicality and aversion to the grandiose. New Taipei Metropolitan Park for example is an absolute masterpiece - whoever was in charge of the design and execution of that deserves an international award: but they won't get it, because they just made it practical and useable and retained many of the pre-existing natural features rather than designing the hell out of it and using it as a means of converting taxpayers' money into some overblown architectural statement that most people find impossible to understand and use. Hsinchu City's old moat and East Gate is another similar case in point. The continuing civic space build-out in Taiwan is impressive. And in amongst it all is the 'gentrification' where younger generations have been repurposing this outwardly old and unprepossessing urban landscape with new ideas - but once again, in the Taiwanese style, just tweaking and making improvements. The old-school 'messy' aesthetic is celebrated rather than rejected (there were some really nice examples in your video) and it makes the urban texture richer still. I love it all. I tend to think that Taiwanese cities and towns are what European and North American towns would have felt like 200 years ago, except with all the benefits of modern infrastructure. Europe's urban landscape is sanitised and over-restored - visiting 'home' this past summer felt at times like I was in a theme park, not a real place. Returning to the so-very-human grit and hustle and texture of Taiwan came as a relief.
@Prozzie14 күн бұрын
I think that's true for some areas for sure. But there are other areas that are just ugly
@robkilo14 күн бұрын
@@Prozzie yes, that's true. The same can also be said for pretty much anywhere, though: parts of Paris are soul-crushingly awful, in fact far worse than anywhere I've ever seen in Taiwan. I'd go further and say that even the ugliest bits of Taiwan aren't as dehumanisingly awful as the worst bits of European cities. I think that was the point I was ramblingly trying (badly) to make - Taiwan's urban landscape is almost unfailingly human, even if it's not often big-picture beautiful. But that just means it's nearly always small-picture beautiful, on the individual human scale, which so often the cities of my native Europe simply are not.
I would also point out the bubble economy of Japan, in which a lot of that was built, was absolutely crazy. Real estate in Tokyo alone was worth more than the entire United States real estate. Stock market up 500% in less than 10 years. A membership to a golf course could cost you 3 million USD. They've stagnated since but I imagine it had a lasting impact on places and people there.
@chiang_paul14 күн бұрын
謝謝你的分享與介紹❤❤
@你好-s9y14 күн бұрын
The subtitles are super local Taiwanese, very impressive.
Ugly Buildings in Taiwan gives me a East Germany or Romania vibe, more like Romania, Barbwire and exposing Plumbing are pretty common there.
@celine-08814 күн бұрын
看到字幕~~五告拍甲🤣🤣🤣
@mhung515311 күн бұрын
Thanks, Prozzie, you probably understand Taiwan better than most of Taiwanese (including me, who always complain about the cityscape lol). Hopefully, I'll run into you on the streets of Taichung someday 😊
I couldn't disagree more with your statement of a lack of feeling or vibe. In fact i disagree so much that it was in fact my first reason why I decided to move here. Taiwanese cities dont look bad, taiwanese architecture looks bad. When you combine all elements of the street into a total vibe, the picture becomes beautiful, even if one of the original pieces of that total picture is ugly. The vibe of Taiwanese streets is like no other.
I used to hate how there’s so much old and new mixed buildings within every city in Taiwan…The most recent trip (October 2024) I had a new found appreciation. It gives character and nostalgia vibes. With things constantly changing in Taiwan, it’s good to know that lots of things still stay the same…as far as buildings are concerned.
@思同14 күн бұрын
因為能用就好,完全沒在管美觀的,只要沒塌下來就不維護繼續用,結果所有東西都沒有規劃、變很醜
@alexchen838014 күн бұрын
It is easy cozy and lazy living in Taiwan….I am 60 yrs old retired biz man once lived in USA, Europe JPN, HK and China for years plus lots of lots of visits in different places and cities Now ended up retiring here back in TPE/Twn
Was in Singapore this summer. Place is not for everyone. Little to no corruption, no seedy elements, people following rules. Some people can’t handle this so many don’t go. City is definitely pristine and safe and super modern.
@ccelva14 күн бұрын
你說了大實話😂😂😂🎉
@user-xf7vl2xj5v13 күн бұрын
Taiwan isn't as immaculate and clean as Japan, but at least their aren't loads of aggressive homeless people and junkies on the street, like in some major Western countries. Coming from one of those countries, I value that aspect of life in Taiwan much more than anything else, that sense of peace and security when out and about and the general sense of respect and consideration that people show to one another that creates a collective harmonious surface to society.
The start and sound of the start reminded me of of photos of NYC
@GgraceTseng14 күн бұрын
真的餒。認同。台北信義區,走ㄧ走。就會看到貧民窟😱😱
@dearesthui14 күн бұрын
I grew up as an overseas Chinese in Malaysia and Singapore and I think 'aesthetic' has never been highly valued in the Chinese culture. Pragmatism, functionality and value-for-money are generally prioritised over aesthetic. You can see that in Chinese food (there is no concept of fine-dining), clothing and building architecture. I found much similarity in the traditional commercial building architecture in Taiwan and those in Malaysia and Singapore (less of them now but you can still see some of those old buildings in Geylang).
@sunnydavis200014 күн бұрын
Every culture has its strengths and weaknesses. Taiwanese people, known for their non-judgmental nature, often don't feel pressured to maintain appearances, whether in their attire, food, or streets. If they ever start valuing aesthetics more, they might end up resembling Koreans.
@yfllll13 күн бұрын
When I go to Taiwan usually the first thing I notice is how it smells. It’s distinct and makes me go “ah, I’m home” It doesn’t actually smell good but it’s familiar and homey 😂 Taiwan is best experienced when you go more than once and can relax and meander. I brought my friend a couple of times and the more we go the more he wants to go back Over time it just feels more like home
@chrisf853114 күн бұрын
I must have missed people walking snakes in Taiwan. I don't recall that part.
You're telling the truth.I like truth. Some area is improving though. Not just new buildings or parks make it look better, but some renovation or creative decorations of old apartments show up more and more. For example, they painted the walls of lots of the apartments near Weiwuying in Kaohsiung. Also when I rode on the tram around Kaohsiung, I saw many buildings along the line were painted which is quite nice.
@yihamymb14 күн бұрын
台灣的建築物就像不同年紀的人穿著各自年代風格,矗立在大街上。
@robertzach767514 күн бұрын
Some of my Taiwanese friends said they don't maintain certain things like paint because of the frequent typhoons hitting the island. It's kinda the same Hongkong. Old buildings are only renovated after being deemed historically significant.
@lioslo327514 күн бұрын
光是把防盜窗,凸出式廣告招牌,和鐵皮加蓋拆了就會差很多了~根本不用蓋新的
@rueyhwashiue14 күн бұрын
I am the landlord of an old rental apartment. My house leaks (the reason is that Taiwan is humid, earthquake-prone and the house is old). I use ugly iron sheets nailed to the roof to prevent rainwater from seeping into the roof. The reason I used iron sheets was because it was very cheap and because I was waiting for the house to undergo urban renewal and reconstruction, so I didn't want to spend a lot of money on a complete renovation of the house. As for the reason why I haven't accepted the builder's reconstruction proposal yet, it's because this house was left by my parents, and I have a property rights dispute with my brother and sister, so the reconstruction of the house has been delaying.
@TrailWalker0311 күн бұрын
3:25 that's the reason. Though I've noticed a marked changed in the quality and look of new buildings since the 'return to China' mindset changed to 'we're here to stay' in the late 1980s - early '90s.
@li-chinchen632011 күн бұрын
Prozzie is a genuine modern PHILOPHER; after all, no heaven on earth, that is, some situations cannot be solved so easily in a very short time. Thus, what people can do is try our/ their best to IMPROVE them, and, and, and... look for the bright side of other aspects.
@K-dl4td12 күн бұрын
講得很好,事實上在都市更新和市容改造,人潮再次活略,台灣在這方面確實有把誠品勤美當做案例🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@tinyboy78914 күн бұрын
先天不良加上後天失調(可以談的很多),還有另一個原因大家比較忽略:宮廟文化
@myboringplace14 күн бұрын
台灣加上一些科技投影廣告看板就成了賽博龐克風格
@chungtingc14 күн бұрын
"I have no idea how to translate this"... this made my day LOL
@Universaltruth99-m5s11 күн бұрын
First I 'm so surprised that you said you didn't talk to any japanese. When we visit another country, I think to talk to the local ppl make the whole experience more meaningful. It's more important than food, sightseeing. Although English for most of japanese still is a barrier, but there's many translations tools now. I'm Taiwanese, every time when I cycle around I also felt sad n angry why many old buildings looks so shabby. I guess : 1) Taiwan government didn't set a rule to require building need to maintain the buildings every how many years. 2) for bigger buildings have collect administration fee every month. But for small buildings or personal residence, they didn't save money for future repair fee. so when one park broken, most of buildings just repir that part or even ignored it. 3) during japanese occupied time, no matter streets, public / personal buildings were well designed n maintain, because the japanese ruler set stric regulations. 4) after 1949, 國民黨 just came to Taiwan n brought around 1 million ppl, so the short of budget, accommodation n didn't treat Taiwan as a forever home all lead it to ugly. Too many reasons. So Taiwan need time to walk back to a normal way. But with blue n white try their best to against the running government not to cooperate or support to make Taiwan better. Many things we need to think to change the poor condition will hard to happen.
@cedshred167614 күн бұрын
You missed Bar Nemanja in Yokohama, a real gem of a small, local cocktail bar.
@joshbhoy9 күн бұрын
I lived in China for 6 years amd Korea for 2 and I love the gritty feel of Taiwan (live in New Taipei so primarily talking about Taipei area). I love the Neon and lights at night and feels like a grimy version of Japan. Quite the opposite cyberpunk feel to a Tokyo. Think the happhazard layout is charming but I will say lack of sidewalks and pedestrian areas mean outside central Taipei walking is dangerous haha. But Great food, great people and plenty to do. My Mum came to visit me in both China and Taiwan and she loved Taiwan, thought it was cool. Like a mix of Japan and China. But think that might also be because my city Glasgow back in Scotland is quite a grity feeling city but its a great place.
unpopular opinion, but aside from the run-down buildings, I think Taiwan would benefit from having a better sewage system and a lot less mopeds which is parked at every corner of the street, it's a nuisance and an eyesore.
@-zn6du14 күн бұрын
You also have to remember Japan has thousands of years of history, whereas (chinese colonised) Taiwan is only a few hundred. It’s like comparing America to the UK. A country that has had millennia to build its infrastructure and cultural atmosphere compared to one that has been colonised and in a sense borrowing history and culture from the older country it came from. (Yes there is a sense of turning it into their own thing over time.) Brilliant video and I agree with others that Taiwan definitely has its own wonderful charm which draws me back again and again. Japan is beautiful but Taiwan has my heart!
@chavandposh11 күн бұрын
I think you have to look at the legal restrictions on redevelopment in ROC laws or even in local level, this is what I heard from some of my Taiwanese friends are due to the laws passed during early 2000s under Chen's government. apparently it is very difficult to redevelop buildings and blocks in Taiwan for legal reasons.
I like JPN because of beautiful environment and yummy food. As for why TWN cities are old and ugly, I have no answer. My best guess is that during that period, our economy was struggling, and we were under international pressure, so just surviving exhausted us. However, after succ in economy, the lack of long-term and well planning led to the current poor city appearance and terrible traffic. No excuses for us...
I've just been back from Singapore and to be frank, some old areas in the Chinese zone such as People's Park Complex (珍珠坊) doesn't look or feel that different from the old spots in Taipei. I was staying in a quite decent looking hotel near the complex; however, the hot water runs out around 10 p.m. at night --- a situation I've never encountered wherever in a Taiwan hotel of the same price range. There are places in Taiwan, of course, are full of modern and even grand looking buildings --- Linkou(林口), Taichung Opera House surroundings, and Kaohsiung Harbor (especially near Pier 2) --- these are newly developed areas. As for the "ugly" looking buildings such as those in Taipei, the main reason of their existence is that the property owners are not forced by law to maintain their buildings' outer appearances, therefore most owners just pay attention to the function of the house rather than the outer look. I once hated the big amount of "eyesores" in Taiwan, but the older I grew and the more places I've been to, I gradually learned that it is just Taiwan being Taiwan. Like the Hagia Sophia Mosque in Turkey with its unique appearance in a combination of traditional churches and mosques, it is the symbolic landmark of Turkey. Similarly, the old street scenes in Taiwan, look like some places you can find in an Hayao Miyazaki film ~~ And as the old buildings are gradually replaced by the new ones, these scenes would became less and less.
I see a lot of comments suggesting Taiwan lacking aesthetics. I disagree. For one, Japan looks very industrial not aesthetic at all but there is a uniformity in their streets. Taiwan streets too much personal characteristics = 我方便爽就好.
@li-chinchen632011 күн бұрын
As people and us Taiwanese can see, architectures which have been existing from Dutch, Spainsh, Japanese colonial period, and even Chin Dynasty are so elegant and amazing..., but especially those built during the period when Taiwan was ruled by KMT were so ugly, many hate them so much, ...really speechless!
I think your underlying theme of this video needs to be examined more mindfully by leading Taiwanese movers and shakers. While I, too, have heard the historical justifications, I don’t buy them any more: Taiwan has moved on in so many respects since those times and yet it is still on automatic pilot where quality infrastructure and policy management is concerned. The country’s laid back and laissez faire approach to everything from architecture, zoning, food safety and overall cleanliness does have future implications for the country, not to mention its immediate desire to attract more foreign tourism. Yes, while you do eventually get used to it all if you live here for a while, as soon as you leave the country and visit other countries, you realize just how far behind Taiwan is in comparison. In short, there is a lack of strategic passion for excellence. For example, no one seems to care that there are next to no sidewalks;that there is a preponderance of filthy and decrepit buildings that would be condemned in other countries; that builders use inferior building materials that rust and pollute; that there are open sewers that stink; that there is a sea of restaurants that have makeshift exhaust pipes and wiring exposed for all to see; that many food stalls are operating illegally; that noise-polluting vehicles with exhaust modifications dominate the streets; that street-market vendors don’t conform to basic food safety protocols; that so many motor cyclists violate every road-safety protocol in the book; that smoking is everywhere, etc. While no country is perfect, and while Taiwan is not grappling with the extent of crime and homelessness of some other countries, you still don’t see the extent of its systemic slipshod behaviour in other progressive countries. Here, the mentality is, “oh, it’s okay --you think too much”. Prozzie, your comparative case-in-point, Japan, is a compelling contrast. Taiwan is such a beautiful country but its lack of striving to be the best and willingness to accept mediocrity is preventing it from moving forward.
@expatleanie6 күн бұрын
Haha I’m from Cape Town Sa.. so the cityscapes here are a bitter pill to swallow for me.. That said I liked Asian culture back home and when I came here ..I was like oh wow this is the real deal even better than the generic one. The layout of the city definately didn’t impress me , however I knew that already and lowered my expectations .. 😂