Why do we need zoos?

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The zoo has come a long way, transforming from a place of public entertainment, to the modern zoo, which many see as a centre for conservation. So why do we even need modern zoos? In this episode, David explores this very question.
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“Nubians with a Giraffe and a Monkey, Tomb of Rekhmire” by Nina de Garis Davies at metmuseum.org
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“Icos Labratories” by JW at Wikimedia.org

[@maya1086]

pov :Ur looking up vids for argument and advocacy unit and ur topic is zoos

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[@lozzylols]

So glad to hear this information, I get fed up of people moaning about zoos, but they are so geared around the animal now, they have loads of space, and it's a chance to get up close and learn about the amazing animals around the world!

[@kevinclement1533]

The thing is, people who argue on how zoos and aquariums were evil towards animals might not be concerned about wild animals at all in the first place if they never heard, much less visit any zoo or aquarium. Zoos and aquariums help spreading awareness about the beauty of natural world.

[@billyrayner7904]

Okay but there are a handful of species that are deprived of what they need, apex predators for example. Many of which exhibit stereotypic behavior representative of severe mental distress.

[@SK-sq5bk]

@@billyrayner7904 the thing is that people ten d to give animals human traits when they are very diffrent from us. if you see a lion in a zoo sleeping then you might think it is board but this is normal since lions sleep for 20 hours a day. in fact if you see a lion in a zoo pacing around then it is a sign that it is stressed.

[@travisprice57]

They have loads of space what lol when they in the wild they have whatever space they want

[@spensanightshade4899]

They don't have LOADS of space at all! Think of yourself in a mansion with all that you need for YEARS. Would you stay? NO. Just like us, they deserve their freedom. Their habitat is the forest and it should stay that way. Besides, with the technological advancement today, zoos are pretty much useless.

[@rucinary3335]

thx man this really helps me to get alot more information about it since my school topic is about debate and my group is telling "why zoo should not be banned" and this is what i need

[@EcoSapien]

+Case PRO Glad to help! Feel free to spread the video to other students if you think it might help them :)

[@lyndsiehofmann7746]

same thing as i am doing

[@brielle6349]

I’m doing the same !

[@adammaureira3369]

schools are not that imaginitive huh? doing the same thing rn XD

[@user-zy7ch1py5b]

Welp, here in my school we are doing the exact same thing and im team propposition lol

[@10113sarah]

I appreciate the zoos that care about breeding programs

[@squeamish05]

This is a great video. Thank you. I want to use it for my First Certificate exam class for Spanish students, hoping they can use the points brought up in this video to write an essay with arguments for and against zoos. In the past I had always been against zoos as I hate to see caged animals and even today in most 'modern' zoos we see animals that display neurotic and atypical behaviour the result of boredom, a lack of mental and physical enrichment and lack of their own social structures. But this video does go some way towards making a better argument for having zoos (although ultimately, I'd rather know, not necessarily see, that an animal is happy and free in its natural environment). I'm afraid I would not enjoy a day at the zoo because I love animals and respect them, but I hear the arguments presented here. The subtitles are disappointingly bad. I have written exactly what the presenter says if anyone wants a copy, let me know.

[@EcoSapien]

Helen Keenan we would love you to use the video in class. We are getting around to making a video about the negatives of zoos; not only from a welfare point of view but from a conservation science angle as well. Ultimately we would love to see all animals in their natural habitat, but sometimes this is just impossible. There are big negatives to zoos as well and we will cover them soon. Thanks for watching! And thank you for making better subtitles!

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Your video really helped me

[@ganavi8231]

How

[@relmy4963]

thank you soo much you helped me so much I have to do a debate in my English class and you've just saved me thank you!!!!!!!!!

[@eto7194]

I really like it well done!

[@Lee-9]

Does anyone know if the Melbourne zoo (Australia) has good habitats and care for the animals?

[@Kaikaifilu1994]

Because if not we would have trophy hunters “sustainably use” every single endangered or critically-endangered animal on this planet, and more often than not the most endangered of all groups of animals, that we paradoxically don’t really care or think about, either, are the ones they don’t want as trophies. For example in South Africa where *legal, regulated* hunting has actually saved some of the species being targeted like lions and white rhinos (which, I’ll admit I hate with a passion, too, and I’ve often gotten into heated arguments with trophy hunting proponents on the Internet despite the fact that it helps support poor local people there, as well. None of us are perfect), however, penguins living in the southernmost parts of the country, as well as in Namibia, are still very much endangered and in decline, and guess what? Sport hunters don’t want them in their collections, even though, once again, *legal and well-regulated* hunting has saved the “Big Five” in South Africa, thus it’s sort of a slap-in-the-face to us at least interested in working in properly-accredited zoos and aquariums where we work with captive-bred birds in order to at least have a viable breeding population. Turtles and tortoises also aren’t usually targeted by the industry, either, and yet, statistically-speaking, *they’re the most endangered group of vertebrates on this planet, right next to primates* (which I’ll also get to in a minute), so many, many properly-accredited zoos and aquariums, along with the Turtle Survival Alliance and other conservancies, collaborate to breed more endangered turtle and tortoise species so that they can, eventually, be re-released into the wild, and the great apes, for example gorillas and orangutans, that sport hunters also don’t target simply because they share over 90% of our DNA with us, are also considered critically-endangered in the wild due to habitat loss and the unsustainable bushmeat trade. The Indianapolis Zoo’s International Orangutan Center, for example, helps fund research in the Leuser Ecosystem National Strategic Area in Sumatra: www.indianapoliszoo.com/exhibits/orangutan-center/orangutans/ Simply put they help species in decline trophy hunters don’t want.

[@misterdaz1018]

HI, hope you don't mind me using this in my English lesson which I teach here in China. I just wish it was longer meaning it would take up more of the lesson.

[@EcoSapien]

Darren Hartas No problem at all. We encourage our videos to be used in classrooms. Glad you've found it useful. Find more videos and resources on our website www.ecosapien.org

[@chrisv-esl2914]

I'm doing the same. This video great. Clear speaking and straight to the point. It was quite difficult to find a good video that discusses this side of the argument.

[@nguyenthithuylinh3183]

thank you man

[@vanderhimmonsjr2276]

who made it

[@Elvishasleftthebuilding105]

I think there should be zoo's for only endangered species so they can breed and send them into the wild when they're at good numbers again

[@JoshZnh]

U can't do that, if u only take the endangered people that used to hunt them will hunt the un endangered species and that species will go endangered too and u just take that only endangered and release the previous one, it will get hunted again and will go endangered again.. It's just keep looping.. That's why PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE

[@Elvishasleftthebuilding105]

@@JoshZnh true

[@Maxime_K-G]

People who think zoos are bad for animal welfare are a different kind of stupid. I love zoos and what they do to help wild animals and keep people interested in conservation!

[@AaronZ6]

Yes

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Great shots! What camera do you use?

[@EcoSapien]

We use a Canon 60d, plus a variety of L lenses

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[@energy7413]

This is good knowledge for small kids to understand.

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Im doing this for school

[@daila5525]

Lol same

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Who’s here just because its interesting?

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Hi Interhigh students!

[@yeahboi527]

2:44 His face though... Pause on it, so epicly funny

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[@user-nf5zn8yt2y]

Are corgis included in the breeding program 🙂

[@kadenbaugh6106]

hi

[@freddys94127]

Did anyone came out of the zoo and really thought: "I got to save tigers (or any other animal)" and did more than spending a few bucks to WWF. Did anyone after a visiting zoo stopped consuming palm oil products to save rain forest and the endangered species that are living there? I guess not..

[@FatManJackson]

The big guys make the difference. Rich people's donations are what is needed, big companies' decisions to produce palm oil products are the cause. You can not go around asking a million people asking for a 100 dollars expecting it to work if only 100 people with a million dollars are needed. Greed is what makes rich people rich and poor people poor.

[@JoshZnh]

That's why they build zoos, people growing palm oil in the wild and threatens the animals there, so they built zoos..

[@themotions5967]

One factor of this manner isn’t going to typically change those types of behaviors. From my own experience people who stop using palm oil or other harmful products tend to do so because a variety of stacked reasons, and the proper messaging at modern zoos could play a part in that. I also think it’s important to note just how much these facilities can spark inspiration in children especially. A child might not be able to donate after a visit, but could grow up to be a conservationist that changes the game.

[@smilingGEM]

Please have a look at my video on how elephants are kept in Cologne zoo. This is a good example for species-friendly keeping! Thanks for liking it !

[@EcoSapien]

+G EM Thanks for drawing it too our attention, interesting to see what the zoo is doing.

[@stew2860]

3:07 Yeah, I bet that dell is doing great work, only taking around 10 minutes to turn on and 15 minutes to start internet explorer, ugh lmao

[@venividivici6738]

That disproves zoos how???

[@stew2860]

@@venividivici6738 bro that was 6 years ago i have no fucking clue what im talking abt here, I think I was just a dell hater, nothing to do with zoos

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@@stew2860 someones aggressive 😏 chill a bit

[@stew2860]

@@venividivici6738 that wasn’t aggressive, you have poor reading comprehension

[@venividivici6738]

@@stew2860 you came shouting curse words bro, ho back to bed your too cranky kid🤣🤣🤣 Lame insult btw, unless the goal was to make me laugh, if so uou succeded

[@ts7015]

Yes, I'm a very young guy but always insisting on the education of only the younger generation instead of education of every one has little or no effect.

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[@fadykahil3096]

great video guys. Thats the first video i saw and i loved it ! you just gained a new subscriber keep up the good work!

[@kateroberts9791]

How interesting! I love the zoo!

[@mythicalcreature1963]

who's here for their debate prep?

[@frnwdx]

Excellent video! Thank you so much for giving users such information and knowledge about the importance of zoos It'll help me with the final project I have this month about zoos and its purpose! (o゜▽゜)o✨❣

[@lexiedgrooms5361]

People or you know destroying their homes

[@10113sarah]

What’s the justification for putting animals in a smaller space for people to observe them? Why not make it so they can’t see us at the least to decrease stress

[@tekkencentre]

We do that with cats and dogs too. It does not, in and of itself, mean that an animal is unhappy or not properly cared for. Granted, there can definitely be such a thing as insufficient living space for an animal, but that is not a reason to shut down all zoos; rather, it is an argument for increasing the standards of the life of animals in captivity.

[@themotions5967]

That’s already a issue that’s been vastly addressed and taken care of in most modern facilities. Most animals at these facilities not only have habitats that are usually designed to be larger than what is needed, but often are intentionally designed to hide up to a half of the exhibit space from public view. Not to mention things like elevation changes, and hidout spots that give privacy as well. This didn’t to mention most animals also have multiple indoor spaces kitted out for them as well and many also have alternate outdoor spaces that are the same size as their publicly viewed habitat

[@fransthefox9682]

They don't "put" animals there. They were BORN there. I keep telling this every person 100 trillion times, but they can't get it through their thick skull.

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[@venividivici6738]

Wtf are you laughing at your ow stupidity

[@Rojomoto405]

Harambe

[@venividivici6738]

LOL is that supposed to disprove the impzct good zoos have? Btw if it was your son in that position I would you be more wirried with the gorila? If so I jope you never have kids

[@meeswander7328]

Finally somewone who know the truth

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Oh Yeah Yeah

[@lexiedgrooms5361]

Why do we need to use to help the animals of course the dangerous habitats are going extinctionAnimals are no longer existing anymore

[@venividivici6738]

Wtf is thst supposed to disprove zoos???

[@energy7413]

Then what’s the reason of the food chain and food web to you?

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[@narcisat_]

Don't understand how people can look at these animals living in a 5m square cage and think they are learning about "nature" and "natural animal behaviour".

[@venividivici6738]

If you used your brain you sould see that isnt true, you have a brain right?

[@Thomas.c4647]

Prime example of a strawman argument.

[@15samueldrozario12]

Zoo is the only place where all prisoners are innocent

[@antipetaassociation4279]

in well managed zoos animals have acres of land so that's a pretty big prison

[@uthkarshpai3175]

@@antipetaassociation4279 but it's still prison lady. Huh

[@antipetaassociation4279]

@@uthkarshpai3175 not all zoos

[@tekkencentre]

@@uthkarshpai3175 In much the same way as your house would be a prison to your pet dog or cat.

[@venividivici6738]

@@tekkencentre great now pepple are against pets, are you a peta zealot or something

[@mrminecraft5850]

penatration

[@venividivici6738]

Go to bed kid

[@robertkaraxanyan519]

It is realy bad speech and I didn’t anderstand anything

[@siddabathulasrinivaass7245]

We do not need zoo.

[@antipetaassociation4279]

yes we do

[@themotions5967]

As someone going into animal welfare and conservation science that is objectively false if we are talking these large non profit zoological facilities.

[@venividivici6738]

@@themotions5967 bro even good profitable zoos are good, how do you expect yo feed all the animals without income

[@venividivici6738]

We do not need ignorant people like you

[@Sandyaussiecroc]

-philes

[@em2738]

Scr*w zoos!

[@venividivici6738]

Gonna cry baby boy, cant cope with fact zoos are actually important, go take a nap, your too cranky kid

[@etagegnhumengistu8655]

I think it is not ok to keep animals in zoos

[@Lance317]

The main purpose of a zoo is to rescue, recover and release, so basically we need zoos.

[@venividivici6738]

I think you need a brain🤷‍♂️