"Why Do You Talk About God So Much, If You Don't Believe In Him?"

[@OldMotherLogo]

Among my science-minded friends we have a saying: “In science we can never be completely right but we can hope, over time, to become less wrong.” I think atheism is less wrong.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

I love that!

[@theboombody]

Christianity says the same thing about sinlessness.

[@lifefindsaway7875]

⁠​⁠@@theboombody Yes, and that’s a good motto for moral humility, and encouraging people not to judge others. No one likes the “holier than thou” types My Dad’s church actually had that message a while ago; they said ‘you don’t have to condemn what you don’t condone’ You can see someone make a decision that you feel is wrong, and choose differently, without judging the other person for their choice. I really like that. Regarding the scientific method, you literally can’t prove something to be true, you can only prove things wrong. This encourages an epistemological humility. We have to be open to the evidence and be willing to abandon idea that contradict reality. So it’s kind of a different context, but yeah, humility is good.

[@MoonPresence-fg8dn]

It's pretty simple: It's because the theists won't shut up about the gods they believe in and won't stop making laws about it.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Simple indeed. Thanks for watching!

[@lancemarchetti8673]

... as the non-theists continue to convince everyone of the great empty Nothingness and proceed to make laws to protect the right to believe in the existence of the Nothingness that helps humans Iove and respect one another 😂

[@CheknoEternity]

@@lancemarchetti8673 you using laughing emojis shows you’re not fit to have these deep conversations and more likely you’re probably just a confused teenager then you have a warped closed minded view of non-theist. When superstitious Bronze Age primitives invented God, they gave him every day single human character flaw they had, because they simply projected their own uneducated thoughts onto their imaginary God. Men created God in their own religion I suppose that one reason I have always detested religion is its sly tendency to insinuate the idea that the universe is designed with 'you' in mind or, even worse, that there is a divine plan into which one fits whether one knows it or not. This kind of modesty is too arrogant for me. Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy. You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. We seldom realize, for example that our most private thoughts and emotions are not actually our own. For we think in terms of languages and images which we did not invent, but which were given to us by our society. Morality does not come to this mortal world from some imaginary paradise. It rises from the neurons of mortal humans. Morality seems to me to be a natural phenomenon-constrained by the forces of natural selection, rooted in neurobiology, shaped by the local ecology, and modified by cultural developments. Many believers are usually incapable of understanding our position and not willing to do the research that refutes their beliefs make evolution seem that much more reasonable. A primitive mindset unwilling to see or understand opposing views; believe with their emotions and feelings. That’s why majority of intellectual people who have truly evolved from primitive thinking mindsets don’t believe in gods.

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

​@@lancemarchetti8673Are you complaining about freedom of religion??

[@chamicels]

@@lancemarchetti8673 better than chopping off a foreskin of a baby in the name of god or flying a plane into a skyscraper...or an idiot like you.

[@soyevquirsefron990]

I deconverted in the early 90s and called myself an atheist but didn’t think much about it for 20 years. Around 2010 I drove past a church with my kids and they asked why there was a statue of a guy up in a tree, because I’d never told them anything about it. I actually was careful to give them a positive impression of religion because I didn’t want them thinking all religions people were crazy. Then in 2015 the American conservative politics went off the rails and I decided I needed to understand these people better and I started watching atheist and apologetic KZbin and it turns out, the case for religion is much worse than I thought. Now I am careful to debunk any apologetic claims my kids come across on the internet, but still tell them that most believers are good intelligent people who are being manipulated by the preachers

[@logicalmuslim1590]

A sweeping generalization, no matter how well intentioned, is still a fallacy. You wrote "Now I am careful to debunk any apologetic claims my kids come across on the internet, but still tell them that most believers are good intelligent people who are being manipulated by the preachers" Inappropriate to characterize "most believers". As inappropriate as if I were to characterize most atheists. I'm tempted but it's wrong.

[@icypirate11]

​@@logicalmuslim1590Most Muslims are nice people. Would you say that that sweeping generalization is wrong?

[@NotGoodAtNamingThings]

​@@logicalmuslim1590- Do you believe we can't say things about "most people"? Or do you think most people are malevolent? I used to say most people are nice, but since 2020 I've changed to saying most people intend me no specific harm. Maybe you're coming from a similar place?

[@logicalmuslim1590]

@@NotGoodAtNamingThingsI think it's a mistake to try to characterize billions of people one way or the other. I wouldn't for instance claim that believers are more moral than atheists. And there aren't even billions of atheists but it is still wrong to lump them together. I could say "most atheists are highly intelligent", but I'd be talking out of my backside because I don't know most atheists.

[@logicalmuslim1590]

@@NotGoodAtNamingThingsAt best I could characterize "most of" people I have actually met or interacted with. How about "most of the believers that I have been exposed to." Even then, did you do a survey or are you just guestimating?

[@chrisgreen8803]

I don’t believe in god, and this god doesn’t frighten me at all… But the fan club of these gods? They are terrifying

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Many can be! For sure

[@betzib8021]

I agree...and now they control the Supreme Court and their minions can't be removed for life...we are in for a rough time in this country.

[@invaderoz]

@@MindShift-Brandon All of them are

[@lancemarchetti8673]

Sounds like you've upturned every stone and read all the books in the world on the subjects of science, philosophy and religion to arrive at such a confident conclusion... 😊

[@chrisgreen8803]

@@lancemarchetti8673 don’t need to read any books to see the damage religion has done, is doing, and will continue to do until people grow up and put their religious faith in the garbage bin of history

[@donaldnumbskull9745]

You're doing a good job, Brandon. I hope you're getting through to the people who need your help.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks for the encouragement!

[@anita10674]

Oh, for sure he is! I'm one of those people. With the SBS, He's unpacking the OT in a way that is truly difficult, triggering and healing for me. (and I don't mean triggering in a negative way). I feel like I'm getting my life back.

[@waynegabler6570]

Why does that mean you have to ignore what a bible reading Christian has to say. That hardly seems like a 'balanced view', it looks more that a certain agenda is being pushed, no matter what the text in the book promotes. I love it when an Atheist, or false Christian, says I don't understand how the futurist version of the Bible goes. How do they become experts on what I should believe, when they have every part of the book wrong, in one form or another? (and know absolutely nothing about what a futurist believes or doesn't believe)

[@therealbnanabenboiofficial2537]

“Religion is the opium of the people. It is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of our soulless conditions.”

[@Spektor211]

You say in elegance what I have been struggling with for years. Thank you. I have listened to many many great thinkers but you speak to people to their personal experience. This is a great channel

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Oh wow. Thats so very kind and encouraging to hear. Thank you!

[@fergusfitzgerald977]

The tone and stance of your presentation is so humane and honest that it sets you apart from most of your peers - kudos !

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Oh wow! Appreciate that very much

[@Sarappreciates]

If I talk a lot about God as an atheist, please try to see it as someone who talks passionately about addiction or abuse after living through it. These discussions are a kind of healing for many of us, and KZbinrs like MindShift are giving us places to share our experiences and feel a little less alone and a bit more understood. It's not about discussing God, for me it's more about discussing the people who keep religions alive.

[@greengelacid2061]

Beautifully explained...

[@logicalmuslim1590]

Do you condemn all religion because of your experience with one religion?

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Very well said, Sara. Thank you!

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@logicalmuslim1590 "Condemn" says a lot more about your perspective than OP's.

[@iwilldi]

talking too much about addiction is an addiction thank causality...

[@loriw2661]

At 9:57 to 10:54 reside the most powerful sentences I’ve ever heard. I want to memorize them so I can repeat them to Christian’s that ask me, “Why are you so concerned with people believing in god/Jesus”. Brilliant stuff, Brandon. Thank you! This is my second comment, sorry, but this video is soooooo good!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha. Never need to apologize. Glad it resonated with you!

[@LaurieInTexas]

I am not an atheist who argues with Christians or other religious people that they are mistaken, but I'm glad there are those of you here who are willing to make videos showing the inerrancy of believing in god. I want religious people to leave me alone and I'll leave them alone, but as we know they will not leave their religious beliefs out of our lives. They are determined to have laws based on their beliefs which are outrageous infringements on the rest of us. That is something I am willing to fight against.

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

Like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth...?

[@skyinou]

Instead of unicorns: Imagine believing in SantaClaus all your life, and blaming and beating yourself up again and again every year for your alledged bad behaviour since you didn't get a present... Wouldn't you want to know the truth?

[@lancemarchetti8673]

Sounds like you have arrived at the knowledge of the Truth... please share it with us.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Love this!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@lancemarchetti8673 the truth is there are no gods, and to raise children telling them they are sinners bound for hell unless they obey has to stop. not to mention the rules religists try to impose on people who don't want those rules, and of course not to mention at all the people DYING in the name of those religions and religious "rules", but you make fun why not.

[@skyinou]

@@HarryNicNicholas And you forgot to mention that then these children will not be taught any sense of actual morallity, only the concept of punishment=bad, leading them to ideas like: everything is ok as long as you're not punished.

[@iwilldi]

The truth is called causality and in creates all nonsense.

[@iluvtacos1231]

Turn it right back on them. "You don't believe in evolution, so why do you keep talking about it?"

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Yup!

[@kaceesnow]

Amen

[@marcdc6809]

I'd say this about 'why do atheists talk about god?' ... 'why do judges talk about crime?'...

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Love that

[@junepearl7993]

I started watching this channel a few weeks ago. I almost immediately thought that Matt and Jimmy should know about this guy. I’m so glad that you are going to collaborate with them. Good stuff.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Very kind. Thank you so much for that and for being here.

[@shanepeterson6640]

Man! You just summed up and defended such a large part of my entire existence and passion in life! Thank you!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Glad to help vocalize!

[@iv7089]

as a 20y/o in the midst of deconstructing, I wish you were my dad (compliment) 😭 it's so reassuring to have voices such as yours in this corner. deconstructing is honestly pretty traumatising- it feels like my entire life got turned upside down sometimes. perhaps not so much the process of deconstructing itself, but moreso the lack of understanding and support from my existing (religious) community. all the more reason to keep talking about our experiences, opening up productive dialogues, and building up our own supportive communities. so, thank you for all that you do, having my struggle affirmed and validated has been awesome. i truly appreciate the inner turmoil you went through; seeing how far you've come is admirable, and gives me hope for myself. just a side note, have you ever delved into religious cults? the point you made about some people being more open to the suggestion of religion at low points in their lives reminds me of some predatory techniques cults like to use, and i'd love to see you do a deep dive on cult psychology/manipulation tactics, and that clear parallel with proselytising and whatnot. it's not exactly in theme with your current videos, but i would be very interested :)

[@MindShift-Brandon]

What a thoughtful and encouraging comment. Proud of you for doing this hard work so early. You will be so much better off for it!

[@TheRealShrike]

Well, you are definitely helping me, so thanks.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So glad to hear it! Thanks for being here.

[@gregcampwriter]

You've put Joni Mitchell in my head, singing, "I've looked at God from both sides now...."

[@That_Tuning_Guy]

Thanks for what you do. You're able to put into words all the things I've been thinking about for a long time now.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So glad to hear that. Thank you!

[@LittleBitVic]

Videos like Brandon's helped me deconstruct a lot of the lingering harmful concepts from my old religious beliefs despite leaving religion by ~10 years old. Some were harmful towards my mental health, and some were harmful to others. Even at 16 after surviving assault, purity culture haunted me long after losing belief in the religion that spawned the culture. Not a day in therapy could help until I could detach from the painful, irrational, bullshit concept of "virginity" and "sexual purity". Progressive skeptics opened that door for me when no one else did. I still watch skeptical videos and research world religions today because 1) my friends and family have different relationships with and perspectives of religion, and I wish to understand their point of view better, and 2) I live in Texas and have seen my rights stripped from me in rapid succession from the most fundamental of religious zealots that have seized a powerful minority. They're close to harming one of the most important pillars of society: education. I need to learn everything about them, ethics, and reason to be the best informed voter that I can be to speak against their harmful, bigoted politics.

[@stevenbatke2475]

I do appreciate your approach, by not treating people like they are stupid. I try my best to take the same method, and I encourage everyone that reads this to do the same. Who here has been convinced they need to change, when someone talks down to you, or tells you you are dumb? Not me, and I’m as dumb as they come. Deconversion is the job for the unholy spirit, not us. No, if you truly want to mess with a believer, in a positive way, kill them with kindness. When they say you are stupid, turn the other cheek. Believe me, if you can act more loving than them, oh boy, it’ll stick with them far longer than name calling. And if they are nice in return, you can have a pleasant exchange, where both parties can listen and learn from each other. I guess this is part of my Christian upbringing, but I’m not ashamed to deploy such tactics.

[@scrumbobulus]

I wasn’t raised being told that unicorns were watching my every move and that they’d stab me with their unicorn horn if i did things they didn’t like.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha!

[@internetizmyhome]

Imagine how much Christians would talk about atheists if we were the overwhelming political majority

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Oh man. We might get to find out soon lol

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@MindShift-Brandon according to pew and gallup we are getting there faster than predicted in the last poll 6 years ago....

[@zerocooler7]

Some of them do talk about atheists often. I see it on Twitter (not calling it X) all the time.

[@IanM-id8or]

They rant about us all the time now. We don't need to be a majority for them to be obsessed with us. I mean, look at how much they rant about trans people - and they are a tiny minority

[@newglof9558]

"Overwhelming political majority" Lmao I wish I lived in your world. That would be amazing. The overwhelming majority is de facto secularism. "Nominal Christianity" means nothing.

[@viniciuspaivasantos6126]

George Carlin said it best “Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”

[@PinkPony_]

Ive come to the realization that people (for the most part) are all just trying to feel good about the choices that we have made and its a human thing to want to be a part of something that is "meaningful" like community or family or ( in alot of cases ) religion.

[@duanethompson8770]

Thanks for your thoughts and rationale on this issue. I too dislike what the Christian right is doing to our democracy.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks, Duane

[@Betttty]

I was that indoctrinated person once upon a time and your channel helped me

[@Dragoon803]

I'm really liking your content. I have a very similar view of religion. Especially as someone who was raised in the church. I am still trying to decide for myself on if I think religion is more harmful than good. I only became an Atheist a year and a half ago. I think the things stopping me from fully going to the side of religion causes more harm than good is that 1) I tend to look at things from a utilitarian perspective and 2) I simply don't know what all the alternatives are compared to religion. Great video. You got me thinking lol.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Great thoughts. You are right in not rushing to believe that what cones next will be better but at this point we did the religion test, look at all of history. Im willing to place a bet on rationality for a go.

[@loriw2661]

Yes!! When I watched the first couple videos you did when you moved your channel towards religious stuff, I was blown away. I messaged Matt about you & said you’d make a great guest on The Line. (He & I both keep Ball Pythons😊) While I won’t take credit for it happening because I’ve only met him a few times, my ego is dying to. Lol! I’m so very excited to see that episode when it happens!!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Lets just assume it was all you. Ive got no issue with that. Thanks for the love and support!

[@kettei7743]

Your brief comment about subjective morality at the beginning really standed out to me, since one of the biggest problems I have with moral relitivism is to how is in any way politically or practically usefull in real life situations.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

I dont see any way around it. Its what weve always had. And our society’s are just collections of the most common subjective intuitions

[@theboombody]

@@MindShift-Brandon You may believe that no objective morality exists in your mind, but you do not believe that in your heart. The reason you attack Christianity so much is because you think that it's objectively morally correct to pursue truth. You think it's objectively wrong to push fairy tales and magic as a means of scaring grown adults into obedience. Not just for this era, but for any era. Tell me you don't believe that. Or tell me that you'd be willing to go back in time to a witch burning during the puritan days and not make any attempt to try to convince the mob to change their mind. After all, they created their own morality. Why's yours any better than theirs?

[@theboombody]

As the belief in magic is the death blow to the rationality of a Biblical believer, so to is relativism the death blow to the person who tries to say the majority is heading down the road to something evil.

[@kaceesnow]

Brandon it good that you realized that 1 + 1 =2. Some Christains calculate 1 + 1 + 1 =1. Even though they know internally it is 3. We actually can't change Christains they would have to come out of this system on their own

[@zacharylehocki]

The ``Why do atheists care?`` meme is interesting coming from Christians which so many spend so much of their time evangelizing their faith to others. We could just as easily ask the vice versa question back at Christians. The ironic part is if Christians didn`t push their beliefs on people the way they do most atheists wouldn`t care very much.

[@Krikenemp18]

They're essentially saying, "Why do atheists resist when we assault them?" Like, are they really so unaware of themselves?

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Exactly this!

[@Cuffsmaster]

Well said !!!!!! It is more of a reaction to being pushed rather than pushing

[@christophergibson7155]

It may seem like "being pushed", but the Word of God does not describe it that way. It is properly called "being convicted (of sin) by the Holy Spirit. The Lord Jesus Christ said that this would be part of the ministry of the Holy Spirit. "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:" (John 16:8) And the true disciple and follower of Jesus will..."Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." (Mark 16:15-16) It is a matter of love and concern for the lost soul that motivates the Christian to preach the gospel to them.

[@Krikenemp18]

@@christophergibson7155 Why the dishonest word games? Can you address the content of the argument?

[@clukinvar]

Really glad to hear you are in contact with the line, I was thinking about emailing Jimmy and suggesting you as a guest.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks for thinking of me

[@Phoennix3]

I currently view myself as a nihilist. I love the fact that there is no meaning to anything. It keeps everything fresh and exciting!

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

😄That’s the sunniest take on nihilism I’ve yet encountered! I hope it catches on! Keepin’ it Fresh… keepin’ it real…nihilism …just grin and bear it!😄👏

[@EmmanuelTomes]

Really love the topics you cover. Great work!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you very much!

[@Infamous-K]

Thank you for this, and all you do, really. My husband and I deconstructed separately, at around the same time. Every friend and acquaintance I had was built around church and ky kids' social lives. Once they grew up a whole lot of that went away. You, Prophet of Zod, Godless Granny, and Viced Rhino, have all been so helpful to me, walking through that. My husband is very self-contained, not a big talker, so listening to the three of you is a huge comfort to me, not just to not feel alone, but to hear a version of those conversations I would have if my world were bigger. I'm really grateful for what you do.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So glad to be able to help provide that. This is my only outlet as well, so i understand for sure

[@christophergibson7155]

But the important question is.....What happened to your love for Jesus?

[@theboombody]

Shoot, I'd leave religion too if church dominated my life that much. I'd be burnt out. I go like once a week, and do so happily. I read the Bible a few days out of the week though. I need that WAY more than I need to be around my church family. I tend to be introverted.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

@theboombody not trying to pick on you but this is the exact kind of comment that just shows me how unsupernstural and unreal this god is. One shouldnt have to fear being burnt out. God didnt say love and follow me when its convenient and when it aligns with your personality type

[@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable]

According to atheist religion, What is wrong about pdfilia? Should we ask Drag queen story hour? According to islame, What is wrong about pdfilia? Should we ask *sunan abi dawud 2121* ?

[@stultusvenator3233]

I don't talk about non-existent gods, I do confront the idiots who think there is one because they are dangerous and irrational.

[@lancemarchetti8673]

You sound dangerous 😂

[@MoonPresence-fg8dn]

@@lancemarchetti8673 found the idiot

[@iwilldi]

When will you confront causality which causes humans to be irrational or pseudo-rational?

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

​@@iwilldiWhen will you learn to ask a coherent question?

[@theboombody]

I guess a big way to demonstrate that you're above those that are irrational is to label a large group with a BROAD paintbrush.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Happy Saturday! Really excited about today, tomorrow, and Tuesdays videos. Thanks for watching!

[@danielblair4413]

I know that I am saved and have a relationship with God beyond all doubt and all true born again Christians also know beyond all doubt that they are saved and have a relationship with God. Think about this... How can a true born again Christian ever deny the existence of God when they have God's Holy Spirit dwelling within them? True born again Christians wake up every day with the very evidence of God dwelling within them, a true born again Christian can't deny the existence of God even if they tried because such a thing is impossible because you can't deny the existence of something that is dwelling within you. It is NOT logically possible to be able to deny the existence of God if you are a true born again Christian.

[@skepticusmaximus184]

It's worse than not being able to *deny* the existence of God, is not being, willing or able to *question* it; not even tentatively. You say you KNOW beyond all doubt. But that's not impressive, because your capacity to doubt is crippled by an ideology that demands you to believe, promises eternal paradise and/or threatens your eternal suffering. A sick little game of Mafia style emotional blackmail and extortion. The underlying premise that you can wilfully choose to believe something is absurd to a rational mind. The ideology is obviously sold on fear, greed and doxastic volunteerism, regardless of your claim to have some magic spook stuck inside you. Go see a doctor preferably a psychiatrist. The reason you believe what you do is because you've been indoctrinated into believing a delusional ideology. Many other religions indoctrinate their followers to believe their doctrines with just as much dogmatic certainty as you do. Besides all that, I don't know why you expect your testimony to be convincing. It doesn't prove a damn thing. You're just spouting that you're convinced for internal reasons that can't be demonstrated and are not convincing to anyone else.

[@Sarappreciates]

@@danielblair4413 There's no "evidence" of God inside you. This is why you're dealing within an organized FAITH, not a science. You can't know God is inside you in a way that can be meaningfully observed by anyone else. Evidence is observable. You're trying to make God physical when what you're expressing is a supernatural spiritual thing outside of physical evidence.

[@dasbus9834]

@@danielblair4413 maybe "true born again Christians" simply aren't a thing.

[@danielblair4413]

@@dasbus9834 says: *maybe "true born again Christians" simply aren't a thing.* How can that be the case when I myself am a true born again Christian?

[@fergusfitzgerald977]

Wow what a great response there from Matt ! Take on Matt at your peril !

[@Azho64]

Loved the 1+1=3 then waking up finding out it was not true analogy !!! Wish I was as fluid with words like you Im about to do my 2nd stream with Nara Monday night and I fumble thru some of it because of wording and such. Cant wait to see you and Matt together doing a show.Thanks again Brandon

[@iwilldi]

If you were really fluid you could flush yourself down the toilet. What a stream....

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thats very kind. What time is the thing with Nara. Ill check it out!

[@Azho64]

@@MindShift-Brandon 10 pm est might be late for you but even if ya stop by would be nice.This is something new he wants to try for fun making comments about real bad theist videos.And Im sure he will open up the stream at some point. I did think it was funny last video with the comment about "Why atheists care" and you had already done or plan to do a "This is why we do it".

[@devinbraun1852]

Good post Brandon. You made some excellent points eloquently yet clearly. Keep it up.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks so much for that!

[@kharma4ever730]

Brandon you’re amazing in the way you can put into words the truth. All human existence is beautiful. True knowledge is true freedom. The cult of human invented fiction or religion teaches the opposite. I love the way you explain it.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that very much! Thank you for the kindness

[@logicalmuslim1590]

Your statement is self contradictory. You say "All human existence is beautiful." Then you say "The cult of human invented fiction or religion teaches the opposite." Sorry but the phrase "cult of human invented fiction" seems to be contrary to "All human existence is beautiful. " Religion is part of human existence whether you like or not. Is it possible that atheism is nothing more than the rationalization of one's emotional reaction to their perception of religion?

[@kharma4ever730]

@@logicalmuslim1590first you must understand the definition of fiction. 1. literature in the form of prose that describes imaginary events and people. 2. something that is invented or untrue. So a human invented untrue imaginary event as religion dictates in a deity would be the human invented fiction or cult of religion. Making human existence beautiful. Unlike the human invented fiction or cult of religion dictates. The fact that one may choose to believe a human invented fiction does not make it true for anyone outside of their own existence. I’m not or ever claimed to be a atheist. Those are your words. I am a human being, a beautiful human being.

[@dasbus9834]

@@logicalmuslim1590 _Is it possible that atheism is nothing more than the rationalization of one's emotional reaction to their perception of religion?_ No.

[@logicalmuslim1590]

@@kharma4ever730Double talk and nonsense. Talking to fools is a waste of time but... If all human existence is beautiful and if religion is a part of human existence then religion is beautiful. Whether or not any religion is fictional is simply your (uninformed) opinion.

[@atheistcomments]

Another fantastic video! You nailed it! Why am I doing this is very commonly asked question. It's often said as a defense like " why are you picking on me?" Or they try to be slick and say " deep down you are here to find god" lol

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Lol yup. Heard that plenty of times too

[@Warrior-re5fn]

Another awesome teaching bro. I absolutely love your KZbin channel. Keep up the good work. Keeping it real with a positive attitude. 👍🏼😁

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Really awesome comment. Thank you!

[@Warrior-re5fn]

@@MindShift-Brandon You are so welcome my friend 👍🏼😁

[@dewinthemorning]

This is a really exhaustive answer. I would only maybe add the intuitive desire to try and save people from being deceived by con men who gain from their deception because even if they themselves believe, in most cases they benefit from it - all the fees from giving lectures even in universities, the power and influence they can exert on their victims.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

yes, thank you!

[@reversefulfillment9189]

Superheroes don't exist yet we have comicon.

[@Azho64]

Spot on

[@Meaincubus]

their do actually

[@Viekoda]

I’m excited to hear you’ll be joining The Line!! Can’t wait to see it.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks, man. Good to see ya!

[@sanjeevgig8918]

Last week two Mormons knocked on my door. On Sunday, there was a guy at the traffic crossing holding a sign saying "Repent" I have never known Atheists knocking on people's doors. Or Atheists holding placards saying "Science" . LOLZ

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Such great examples. Can you imagine if i made a toutube show of going door to door. Lol

[@nickp563]

Thanks for your great perspective! It's so hard to have these conversations with a "self labeled christian" , no hate like christian love!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

My pleasure! Thanks for being here

[@jefcaine]

The need for life to have some kind of meaning is a big one. When I first lost my faith I struggled to grapple with the fact that there is no ultimate purpose. I wonder if it's easier for people who weren't raised religious and take the arbitrary nature of the universe for granted.

[@dorkception2012]

I've got in terms by the age of 14. You born, you get a job, procreate, then die. It didn't really caused much trouble to me since I had other goals in my life that I was aiming for. Everyone should find meaning for their own life.

[@Krikenemp18]

I definitely think that not being sold on something more grand helped me with the realization of how reality is. There's no letdown of expectations, no cognitive dissonance from trying to make things fit. Besides, the idea of being given a purpose sounds way worse than choosing my own. What if I was given one I don't like or I'm bad at? I'd rather choose something that matters to me. I might have anxiety about choosing it, but I would also have anxiety about fulfilling my assigned purpose - especially with God's impossible standards.

[@iwilldi]

OK here is a question which could eventually give you back some meaning You have an infinite choice between 2 kinds of rooms/realities A) A room which expells you after some time, no matter what you do, and then you can choose again. B) A room which you can never leave no matter what you try! - where are you - what would you choose how meaningfull is it to find yourself in an infinite A) serie? how meaningfull is it to finally end up in B)? how meaningfull is it if you find yourself in B) while most would disagree? The ultimate purpose of man is for god to experience schizzophrenia. You don't need meaning or purpose. You need a problem!

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

​@@iwilldiWell, *some*one in this comment section is experiencing symptoms of schizophrenia, but I am pretty sure you aren't god.

[@jamesgeist9535]

I have much to say sir but I only will say thank you. Good work man.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that!

[@celiand2618]

You are gonna be great on The Line.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks! Really looking forward to it.

[@lesliemccann628]

Excellent message thank you. I don’t come into contact much with evangelicals but this is very helpful

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Glad to hear it!

[@franciswalsh8416]

Your prescience is amazing! Trump HAS passed Jesus by for the Evangelicals, I have read 2 articles where the Pastor states that their congregations prefer Trump's morality to that of Jesus. You have a great store of Empathy, and that works really when dealing with the most important decision a person makes. Please keep them coming.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Very kind of you. Thanks so much!

[@theboombody]

Republicans have done a very good job of hijacking American traditional religion, and that sickens me. I don't like our two-party system. The one where the Republicrats and Demicans work together behind the scenes to keep us purposefully divided. They know what they're doing. If you believe a political party has all the correct solutions, you're way more misguided than any religious fanatic ever was.

[@user-wp1sj3yn7x]

If they would keep it behind closed doors, I wouldn't have an issue but when they try to force it on people, they should expect some adversity. I would think they would provide us with concrete evidence why they believe 100% their god exist instead of criticising the non believers. With one proof we would become rebels.

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Because belief in God informs public policy and the majority of these people think we live in an anime/video game.

[@6adget]

After hearing what your next video will be about, I'm very much looking forward to it.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Hope it doesn’t disappoint!

[@Nocturnalux]

If people were bandying together to worship, and expect me to also worship- or else- any kind of fictional villain, I’d feel the exact same way.

[@skepticsinister]

11:03 one tiny little piece out there, with a wonderful message, delivered peacefully:)

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you very much!

[@LarryLarpwell]

another banger

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank ya!

[@somersetcace1]

Even as a lifelong atheist I've asked why some atheists feel the need to make what we do not believe, the center of their lives. Not in a comment, but just to myself. I came to the conclusion eventually, that this type of content is important for those who have been indoctrinated their entire lives into a theistic worldview and are now grappling with those concepts, while also dealing with the people around them that are not happy with them de-converting. It's also important for those who may not even necessarily be grappling with it, but genuinely want to know where (some) atheists are coming from. What had me had me a little antagonistic about this type of content at first, was I felt like you content creators were speaking for all atheists on matters not directly related to simply not believing in gods. However, I've softened from that position, realizing my perception was not accurate and from the positive impact it has had helping those described above. The comments from those benefitting from this type of content really made me realize that any minor misrepresentation of my worldview someone might glean from one of these videos pales in comparison to the support it provides.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that rationality. I agree actually. There seem to be some atheists that dont care and speak in generalities and just enjoy trolling believers. That too would bug me as a believer. I try to be clear, like you said, to mainly speak for myself and for this one religion that i am knowledgeable about and for the benefit of others. Like all things, theres probably better and worse ways of doing it.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

it should be obvious even to theists that if they stopped talking about god, we would just go about our business. as i'm fond of saying, on a planet with no god and no notion of a god, what would an atheist be called? atheists don't exist, i am atheist because of theists. take away theists, poof! i revert to descriptor number two, artist.

[@theboombody]

Why do you think I let my kid choose his beliefs? So he wouldn't get all mad later on and devote his life to something he dislikes, like you guys do. I feel bad for y'all. But not enough to abandon my belief that there's more to the universe than randomness of course. I'm a religious guy, but I probably devote more of my life to watching professional wrestling than religion. A lot of you guys don't, but maybe you should. It would mellow you out a bit.

[@chamicels]

@@theboombody To be honest...I went through an angry stage...All of my family except a niece and sister quit talking to me...I wasn't angry at god I was angry that I believed in god and got suckered when I was a child. And I was angry at religion... I do enjoy arguing but for the most part now I don't think about it all the time nor do I advertise unless pressed. I think a lot of ex Christians go through a time of anger it is part of the grieving process.

[@somersetcace1]

@@theboombodyI have no idea how you managed to get that from my comment, but wow, talk about missing the point.

[@RevilHermes]

It will be great to see you on The Line :D congratulations, you really deserve it.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you!

[@rotorairgroup8409]

Which god ? There have been thousands of gods and not one evidence of the existence of any of them since humans are able to keep records of history. We all are atheists to a certain number of gods.

[@shriggs55]

Thanks.man.I really get where you are coming from.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!

[@leyrua]

Your mathematical comparison was interesting, because Christianity is a religion where 1 + 1 + 1 = 1, because of the Trinity.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha. Should have done that!

[@bitofwizdomb7266]

Cause and effect , folks . It’s everything . It follows you like a shadow . Live consciously and be responsible and accountable for your thoughts , speech and actions . You create your own next moments . You are responsible and accountable for your decisions . Learn the art of living consciously /mindfully . No one else to blame but yourself for your thoughts words and actions and where they have taken you up to this moment . Awake from your slumber

[@26beegee]

I have also been asked why I care if others believe in a fantasy. 1. Like Matt said, believers are militantly seeking to regulate the lives of everyone with their own values 2. Religion suppresses normal curiosity which leads to education, discoveries and advancement 3. Living in a fantasy believing death-cult excuses seeking real solutions to current social, environmental and political problems 4. Religion is divisive and prejudicial which ultimately leads to violence. I can’t think of a single good thing religion facilitates that could not be found in other ways.

[@dorkception2012]

That's so true!

[@rainbowkrampus]

💯

[@iwilldi]

Wow, 1st comment with some coherent lines on this thread. But you err on one point: causality makes us prejudicial, in a very contradictory way. And there is nothing you can do against it. Religion facilitates to smell morons.

[@kettei7743]

*"1. Like Matt said, believers are militantly seeking to regulate the lives of everyone with their own values"* This is a common trait in any person who has any kind of ideology, calling religious people unique for this seems disengenuous. *"2. Religion suppresses normal curiosity which leads to education, discoveries and advancement"* This is an false generalization, as exemplefied in studies like _"Adults Show Positive Moral Evaluations of Curiosity about Religion"_. *"3. Living in a fantasy believing death-cult excuses seeking real solutions to current social, environmental and political problems"* Yet again a bad generalization, as exemplefied in the study "Explaining the Relationship between Religiosity and Political Participation: The Mediating Roles of Transcendent Accountability and Religiopolitical Awareness": _"Results from analyzing survey data from a US representative sample showed that transcendent accountability and religiopolitical awareness, whether together or awareness only, mediated positive relationships between religiosity (belief, private and public behaviors, and membership) and political participation (voting and other political activity), highlighting key psychological motivators of political participation."_ *"4. Religion is divisive and prejudicial which ultimately leads to violence."* Again, no, and this point specifically is rejected by those who study the sociology of religion, as exemplified in "Empirical Perspectives on Religion and Violence": _"There appears very little support for the notion that there is something uniquely religious that causes violence among followers."_

[@dorkception2012]

@@kettei7743 Then why do we feel the opposite of that you are saying? Group of radical people? What do you think, if there would be no religion, those people who act socially normal would act different? Religion has never made a person better, simply made them live in fear while they still found a way to act their hatred. Live in cognitive dissonance must be so healthy, you are right. :D

[@Octoberfurst]

Beautifully said. We only get this one life and we need to most the most of it. Religion, in my humble opinion, stifles freedom and keeps people from being their true selves. I say this as a former conservative Evangelical. My whole life was spent staying away from "worldly pleasures" and worrying about sinning. Christianity gave me a self of community but it also made me fear and despise "the other". We lived in our own little bubble constantly thinking that the secular world was out to get us. I eventually deconverted and I couldn't be happier. I am also much more empathetic and open-minded now. Life is good!

[@iwilldi]

quote: We only get this one life Forget your existence as a maggot in your previous and your next life. It will be great!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Life is good indeed! So glad to hear that for you

[@grantrobinson9129]

Echo!

[@The_Other_Ghost]

To me it's the fiction and the ethics. Them: "But that's the old testament" Me: "You're claiming you get your morals from a being that ordered genocide!"

[@wearloga]

For myself, as someone who never believed in a god and was, at some point in my childhood, shocked that people actually believed this, instead of just sort of believing it, my reasons for wanting to talk about religion are slightly different. People keep telling me that there is a good an just being out there that wants to have a relationship with me and that it will reward me if I am open to that. Now, I am open to hearing from any being that wants to have a relationship with me, but it will need to be that being itself, and not just through intermediaries. The fact that I am as sincere in this as I know how to be, yet this entity, despite promises its believers make, doesn't get in touch with me means that it either doesn't (yet) want this relationship (in which case its believers don't understand it), my mind work in such a way that I am incapable of hearing this entity (yet that still locks me out of the reward which would mean that the entity isn't just), or the entity doesn't exist. In all of those situations, its believers are wrong about at least one aspect of it. I care for the truth and I want to help other people who care for what is true get to the bottom of these issues that are, according to them, vital to whatever this soul thing might be. I am fortunate enough to be surrounded by modern and moderate believers, who don't claim that I'm not being sincere. This seems to shake at least a small part of their believes every single time. Of course they can come later convince themselves that there has to be a reason for this, but the fact that they don't know an off the cuff answer to this position strengthens my believe that the entity they believe in doesn't actually exist.

[@zar3434]

I don't understand the Christian feel the need to legislate their beliefs. In fact it seems ryey should want the opposite - no one gets to judge but God. He laid out his rules and you can follow them or not, and he'll deal with it after you die. But instead we get a plethora of laws trying to keep other people from breaking those rules. I've said this before: you can't legislate someone into heaven.

[@michaelsbeverly]

I understand them completely on this issue, they are no different from most atheists who tend to be left leaning and tend to want to force their beliefs on everyone else as well. The Christians want to legislate their beliefs because they believe it'll make the world better, just like non-believers who vote and try to legislate their beliefs do. Which is why I'm a non-voting anarchist. My opinion and belief is that if something is good for me, you shouldn't have to force me to comply with a gun to my head.

[@zar3434]

@@michaelsbeverly The difference though, between atheist (or closer to correct, secular humanist) and Christians is that the atheist is generally trying to legislate maximal freedom and good, irrespective of beliefs. They want abortions to be legal, but they're not forcing anyone to get them. They want any two people to be able to marry, but they're not forcing anyone to marry a person of their non-preferred sex. There's a world of difference. You say you don't vote, and you're free to do that, until someone takes that right away from you because you didn't vote against them. Always remember one day your rights could be on the line too.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

I really like this line of thinking

[@zar3434]

@@MindShift-Brandon Thanks! I'd like to say it's my idea/question, but I'm skeptical (ha) that no one has thought of it before, and I figure there's a chance I heard something at least similar in one of the many videos I've watched. I did a quick google search, and it doesn't look like anyone has said "you can't legislate people into heaven" before. But this does seem like another one of those cognitive dissonance things about Christianity that you've spoken of previously.

[@BookishChas]

Great video as always sir! Your purpose for this channel is important, and I’m glad you haven’t shied away from talking about the nonexistent god.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

I appreciate that!

[@bradypustridactylus488]

From a gay point of view, my position is the same now as it was when I was forced out of the church. I didn't start this war. I did not make you my enemy. I didn't declare you worthy of ostracization or death. But I will not stand by as a pacifist while you attempt to destroy my life. In the movie "Straitjacket" the protagonist tells the HUAC investigator, "The difference between us is that we don't wish you harm."

[@michaelsbeverly]

_I didn't start this war._ good quote. I was excommunicated and banished and given the silent treatment, it was super difficult (this was when I was still a Christian). When I became an atheist, the last few of my friends abandoned me completely. So, yeah, the war was started by my former friends and co-religionists, and I'm not shy about fighting the battles as they give me some form of catharis.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Love this and agree!!

[@amw6846]

"I didn't start this war." I didn't either. Adult Christians, parents of friends and my neighbors, started trying to convert me when I was five years old, telling me not only that I was going to hell but that my parents were going to hell as well unless I could get them to convert. Most teachers couldn't do it openly, but many barely disguised it. I was dragged into having to defend myself and my lack of belief on a regular basis from a young age.

[@monteclark1115]

Very well said.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you!

[@mr.goldenproductions_0143]

Go get'em cinnamon beard hahaha ;)!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha! Thats a new one but i dont hate it.

[@mr.goldenproductions_0143]

It comes from a place of love and appreciation! I hope that's ok and its a one-time don't worry!@@MindShift-Brandon

[@MindShift-Brandon]

@mr.goldenproductions_0143 lol of course. 0 worries. No offense taken at all.

[@jimscott9974]

Well done.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you much!

[@EatHoneyBeeHappy]

Such a silly thing for Christians to say, I mean, they talk about things all the time that they don't believe in, for example the gods of other religions, they talk about works of fiction, they talk about hypotheticals. Talking and thinking about things we don't believe in is a healthy way to keep the imagination active and critical thinking skills sharp.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Right on

[@MarvinHartmann452]

I'm not a religious man, but if it makes people feel better to believe in something, then good for them. I don't feel the need to prove or disprove anything related to what someone believes in. Who I am to tell someone they shouldn't believe in anything ? I don't know if there's a God or not. I just don't believe in anything. I don't have the impression that religious people are menacing, I don't know. Maybe I'm right, or maybe I'm wrong. What I know is that I don't need to be right at all costs. I wasn't raised in a religious family or in a religious country. Everyone I know doesn't go to the church or read the religious books. But if they did and it makes them feel better, then good for them. It's just not a part of my life, and it will never be. It's something I just don't get. Edit: Maybe because religious people don't have any impact on my life, I do what I have to do, and I will continue to be like I am no matter what. That's probably why it's not an issue for me.

[@amw6846]

I'm happy for you. My family and I just moved across the country because religiously motivated laws threatened the well-being of one of my (adult but neurodivergent and needs us around) kids. I am NOT in a charitable mood towards these people right now.

[@kamirose7816]

Why do Christians all seem to believe that if you don't buy into the Bible, it's just because you don't understand it? I was told yesterday that obviously my understanding of the bible was sophomoric at best. Anyway, I can't wait for tomorrow. It sounds epic! ❤

[@rageofheaven]

Because it's basically what jesus taught.

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

They think they understand it..or think got holy spirit

[@iwilldi]

Never mind, even 99% of the black hat scholars still believe that Mark was a christian by the time of writing.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Its a funny strategy. We are told to believe like a child and that this message is for everyone, but then told we need ton study and meditate on the word and if we arent christians its because we dont understand it. But that seems like the problem of the person who created my brain and this book lol.

[@JiveDadson]

I am an atheist and have been for over 60 years. I don't remember talking about religion IRL in recent years except for one instance. I met a guy who volunteered, "I'm an atheist." I responded, "Me too." Next topic.

[@clemstevenson]

As an atheist, I do not threaten people with any kind of judgement for breaking unproven laws. But judgement, based upon unproven laws, is a major ingredient of the Christian message. I do not make fanciful afterlife promises, but Christianity does. This is the psychology of an intrusive belief system that is presented as a fact.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Well put!

[@clemstevenson]

@@MindShift-Brandon Thanks. I have met Christians who genuinely believed that the day of judgement was near. This implied that they were expecting to be saved. On the other hand, people like me would be judged guilty, and be sent to hell.

[@Justas399]

You must be one of the smartest guys to have ever lived to see that given that billions believe it and are smarter than you.

[@clemstevenson]

@bmoe4609 Yes, fear is a feature of Christianity. I have heard of believers suffering from phycological problems, as a consequence of this.

[@k31than]

I haven't completely watched the video yet (currently have it paused at the beginning), but I couldn't help but give a knee jerk reaction and respond to the [rhetorical] question of the video title by saying, "That's almost like asking why a lawyer or a police officer/investigator would talk about crime (re what's legal and illegal) so much, if they think it's wrong." Anyway, on to watch the video...

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Yup! Its pretty much that simple lol

[@HarryNicNicholas]

it should be obvious even to theists that if they stopped talking about god, we would go about our business. as i'm fond of saying, on a planet with no god and no notion of a god, what would an atheist be called? atheists don't exist, i am atheist because of theists. take away theists, poof!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ohhh i really love this. So simple and true

[@donnaburden.dip.d.analysis2148]

Great video, like normal. Keep up the great video. Xx

[@shassett79]

Because theists never shut up about it?

[@gregcampwriter]

I often give the answer that because so many Christians want to legislate their religion in my country, it's a subject that I have to discuss. But religion in general is an interesting topic for me both professionally and personally, and I would like to know if any god exists.

[@MrCanis4]

I'm not talking about a god. I'm responding to people who believe in gods and have the idea those who don't are somehow inferior.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Perfectly put!

[@Aurealeus]

💯 B I N G O 💯

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks for being here.

[@Aurealeus]

@@MindShift-Brandon Hoping your appearance w/Matt on The Line isn't just a one-of and you have several more. It would help expose you to more people and while helping to grow your channel too.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

@Aurealeus i sure hope so. Looking forward to it!

[@DuXQaK]

Expose yourself... And WE will go blind 🤪

[@maryoconnell4276]

Looking forward to tomorrow's

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks. It was a fun one to out together

[@t0dd000]

I'm a rational human and it's rather rare for me to even think much about a god or goddess or superhero or supervillain. My black cat isn't bad luck and I walk under ladders without fear. Also politics and religion rarely come up in polite society and most of the time superstitious people have little bearing on my life. But, I recognize the humongous danger that religion represents and so I try to follow what's going on in that world and channels like these help. Plus, of course, at every turn, superstitious people attempt to implement legislation designed to enforce their insanely on others and to indoctrinate our children. And of course, that sort of evil must be stopped. That's when I pay attention. Otherwise, your belief in a magical giant turnip means nothing to me and I go back to not thinking about it.

[@iwilldi]

quote: I'm a rational human causality must be joking...

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Yes. Well said

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

​@@iwilldiAre you under the impression that your comments make sense to anyone other than you? They don't.

[@iwilldi]

@@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo I say: causality must be joking and causality sends me a multi purpose weirdo! At least one knows his master!

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

@@iwilldi You're still not making a lick of sense. If your purpose is communication, you have utterly failed.

[@DannyS177]

Well said!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank ya!

[@t0dd000]

I beg to differ that religion builds communities. It does, but in the bad sense. It builds groups of "us vs. other." Division.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

also, contrary to popular belief there are plenty of secular activities that build community, arts sports etc.

[@StephenAllison-gl2ky]

I’m a lifetime atheist born into a Christian family. Thank you for what you are doing. Thank you for reaffirming the way I felt and the damage that the Bible does. Appreciate your interpretation. If you want to see what Christianity does to society look at the difference between Pana and Antigua

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that!

[@benleonheart]

biblically accurate Jesus is too "woke" for these trump christians xD, also too much of a socialist 💀 Looking super forward to the video!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Nailed it

[@davidbudge8359]

Bravo well said

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks!

[@betzib8021]

Why does everyone talk about God as though He is a he. If I am created in HIS image...how does that work if I'm a girl? If God is real...what is "his" pronoun? Why haven't christians...in all this time...figured that out?

[@MindShift-Brandon]

I agree with you, but this god is clearly built from a male dominated society. His pronouns through every book are He and theirs descriptions of his “very large” penis also lol. Ive never understood why women would want to follow a god that obviously thinks so little of them

[@marcdc6809]

I guess as an atheist you don't believe in god, so you're not going around inventing new ones or improving the ones that already 'exist'. The christian, jewish and muslim god is clearly defined as a man... it does help with the idea of how weird it is that in the 'real world' women are actually the carriers of the new life, and that's more than just 'doing the work', women also give the majority of the DNA to the newborn... men have a weaker genetic configuration...

[@marcdc6809]

@@MindShift-Brandon my mother was catholic, I always found it weird how she would feel adoration for the pope, I admit John-Paul II was a rather fit guy, but still... and the fact that I have two sisters, which would not be allowed to become priests, neither would she herself be welcome as priest in her own church... interesting how she never questioned that, and she wasn't an exception, you would see many older women in church.

[@betzib8021]

@@marcdc6809 well...how depressing...but...to fill out your inference about how I'm currently thinking as an atheist...or maybe a wannabe atheist...I do not believe there is a true gender defined deity anywhere...but when I was a christian...I wondered about that question in all seriousness. After all... who defined God as a man? Why...some man..of course.

[@betzib8021]

@@MindShift-Brandon I wondered that too when I would go to Bible studies...but women seem to lap it up...go figure.

[@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo]

Love your approach to this subject. Also congratulations, you have managed to draw some of the major KZbin theist trolls to your videos to drive up engagement! 😂

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Ha! Ill take it. And thank you

[@bozomori2287]

Great video

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thank you!

[@DarthTingleBinks]

I found your channel recently and have been really enjoying your videos and basically attempting to binge (most of) your older stuff in the playlists. But, I have to, as someone who wants to be a professional screenwriter, I HATE being put under limitations in storytelling. It can be rewarding to try to tell a story in an expansive universe and find a creative way to connect two things that nobody else would have ever thought about being connected, but it's also taxing. And I'd very much prefert to just come up with an idea that not many have seen before or a creative way to do something that has been done before, rather than find a creative way to tell a story in a world where so many other stories have been told. Because it doesn't feel limiting, really, it feels restricting. Constraining. It feels in order to tell the story I want to tell, I have to sacrifice elements of it in order to make it work and fit within the established canon of that universe. Of course, the issue is less and less severe the less content a given franchise has, but still. As much as I would love to tell stories in so MANY franchises I love, I would feel more free and creative if I created a franchise of my own. Or just an IP. It can only be a franchise if it's successful. Edit: I also acknowledge that not all artists, and maybe not even all writers will think the same as me. But I just wanted to give my perspective on it.