Why Does Albion Have Two Beginnings?

[@BillyMillion]

I’ve lived in Brisbane all my life and you’ve changed my entire perception of it. I also now annoy all of my friends by telling them stories abouts the buildings we walk past on our way to the pubs.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

I do exactly the same thing

[@jgorry69]

It was lovely to meet you walking to make this video and thanks for stopping to have a chat with myself James and Petrea. Keep up the good work and we will keep liking. Cheers

[@walkaboutwithrob]

@jgorry69 thank you so much! It was a pleasure to meet you both and I appreciate you taking the time to chat with me. I hope you enjoyed the show.

[@ubdkd]

I did the redesign of the tab building. Glad you like it. Big fan of the channel!

[@stuartpilling6190]

I Rode some of that section a couple of weeks ago, as I used to live in Wooloowin. I was amazed how clean Breakfast Creek is now, compared to the 60's and 70's. It was nice to meet you on the Riverside bikeway today!

[@jonflynn1383]

Originally in Brisbane fire stations, the head fireman and his family would reside on the upper floor of the building. Famously, the Nundah fire station which is a heritage building is said to be haunted with many stories of sightings of an early station master's ghost being seen on site. As an ex fireman I have had my own experience while working a nightshift there.

[@sandramackin9817]

Never knew that Chinese Temple was there and how old it is....thanks for that and a good video on Albion.

[@lillisaski5310]

I miss the flour mill. We lived at Albion in a shop/house directly next to the train station. I got to know all the train announcements by heart. Sadly the house was resumed to expand the train overpass.

[@RAPINCITE]

@@lillisaski5310 dustin dollin filmed some skate footage there, he ollies off a roof there or something, and I miss the graffiti art pulling into the station there was always something different there.

[@Funkylogic]

Went to school at the old Columbans college. Under the Whytecliffe building where the brothers lived was the old ammunition tunnel that fed the gun all the way down at the storey bridge.

[@johnledingham852]

My introduction to Breakfast Creek was in 1958, when I was 11 years of age. My family moved from NSW when my dad was transferred here with his job at Ansett Transport Industries. I remember seeing horse trainers rowing dinghies up and down the creek with horses tethered behind, swimming. And the horses loved it. Albion Park racetrack was always referred to as "the creek". It had a sand track, where Doomben and Eagle Farm had turf tracks. Our first residence in Brisbane was in Cintra Road, Bowen Hills. I went to school at the Fortitude Valley school but I also had new mates who went to the Breakfast Creek school. I have wonderful memories from Breaky Creek days.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Do you have any photos of the Breakfast Creek State School?

[@HumanimalChannel]

Hey Rob! Looking forward to this one, I am sure you've dug up some real treasure

[@HumanimalChannel]

Besides the requisite fury at the treatment of Indigenous people (unavoidable chapters of every story) this was fascinating. I've wondered about the e gineering of those structures at Breakfast Creek, and now I know why they were built...imports! A bridge, no less. And what a connection to mother England in the name Albion. These things do reflect the length of time places have been settled, the homesickness was raw. And, my mother's mother's maiden name is Crosby so that was special to hear. Final note... so so true about the Bike! I went flying over my handlebars as if launching off a wall onto pavement... not fun, and I haven't cycled since. I do plan to get back I to it tho, and I hope you do too.

[@sp4263]

I used t live in Brisbane 30 yrs ago, n still love visiting. But it’s a big spread out city that I never saw all of it. So your videos are very interesting. Love that you’ve woven history and Aboriginal history into the walking tour ❤

[@pauldiezel4584]

Interesting fact about the house 'Whytecliffe' - I went to St. Columbans College Albion (now moved to Caboolture) which is now the site of the big retirement estate on Sandgate Road on the hill. The building that served as the reception and Principal's office was Whytecliffe. As it, among quite a few other buildings at the college, was heritage listed, if yiu wander in there, you'll see it still stands to this day.

[@aussieguy1012]

I also went to st columbans the first year in 1997 when it first opened and went coed. I was in Malloy building. Apparently they shifted the whole school brick by brick. Sadly st columbans has gone downhill from what I've heard.

[@pauldiezel4584]

@@aussieguy1012 I still remember the building names. O'Driscoll was another one. I think it's still there as well.

[@joshuabrown8550]

Something I always find fascinating and would love to see you do a video on eventually is how the local aboriginals and settlers lives mixed with each other. You've touched on it a few times and it's something I've never learnt about in school until watching your videos.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

That would be more of a documentary than a walking video. But yes, it is something I am very interested in myself.

[@Ducayneau]

Arson - the preferred method of Qld developers for getting around those pesky heritage listings.

[@yossarianbombardier6823]

Well, The Dean Brothers have retired....or have they!?

[@maqimusic]

Loving the proper stuff, bro!!! Your growing inclusion of info about the indigenous people into these stories is most excellent, IMHO 👍😎👍 All this info about how this town has changed over the years is absolutely awesome!!!! Thanks for what you do, sir 👍

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Thanks mate!

[@maqimusic]

@@walkaboutwithrob How do I get to join you on one of your tours which include pubs?

[@Foul_Quince]

My great grandfather, Olaf, came out from Norway in the late 1890's (1898?) and started a shop on what is now Hudson Road and was there for 40 years or so.

[@leewarry8641]

I grew up around Albion ,my grandfather had a boatyard on the creek he did his apprenticeship at wrights boat yard on the creek in1910 , we lived at ascot & my second job was at the Albion flower mill in 70,s . I left Brisbane in 80,s so it’s all different now.

[@ninjamoves3642]

always had a interesting vibe in Albion, whether its traversing the suburb on the way from someplace to another, it was the hub of many a cross river 20min old school drive which once was the norm from point a to point b in the city travels.. living in Windsor in the mid 90's showed me a working class soul to it.. holds many secrets does Albion from the old TAB building to the !st clubhouse of the Rebels MC, greyhounds & trotters, to the current home of womens cricket with a swinging deck and many a gripping cricket match at ABF & spiritual home of soccer here, Perry Park.

[@AwesomeFish12]

Great video. I've spent a lot of time in that part of town. I hope you do Cannon Hill soon, loads of history there.

[@gillianfahey6464]

Thanks Rob for showing my old workplace (The TAB) .. wow its flash now! .. and I had my work send-off at the Brekky Creek .. some good memories❤

[@davetaylor4741]

Good one. Thoroughly enjoyed that. I sort of knew the area but now have a much larger insight into all things Albion. Thank you.

[@melissacostin4464]

Yowogerra park name is on St Margarets boat shed..had my housboat there for years ..felt the spirits often

[@melissacostin4464]

Went to St Margarets with Anna Cooksley ..medic family

[@mongreljack]

Thanks for another interesting video. Back in the late '80s working my first full time job at Bowen Hills, it was my 1st duty of the day to drive to the TAB building in Albion to pick up the form guides hot off the press so the boss could study it for the days races... Thanks again.

[@johnmcdonnell8182]

I have always found Rob's video's incredibly informative, so was a little surprised that his account of the naming of Breakfast Creek was slightly inaccurate. While it is true that Oxley did call it Breakfast Creek, the local aboriginals already had a name for it, which was Yuoggera. However as fate would have it, when the first maps of the area were printed in the mid-1800s, a typesetter accidentally installed the letter ‘u’ in Yuoggera upside-down, so it became Ynoggera (pronounced Enoggera) on all subsequent maps. The naming of Yowoggera Park by the BCC is therefore incorrect, and strictly speaking, should be changed to Yuoggera, so as not to perpetuate a 180-year-old mistake. Of course, Breakfast Creek only exists downstream from Bowen Bridge, while upstream it is still known as Enoggera Creek, after which the suburb of Enoggera later got its name.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

@johnmcdonnell8182 I don't think you have actually identified a fault with my research. I related the story of how the present creek got its name, i.e. Breakfast Creek being named by Oxley. This is a well known story and not in dispute. Of course the local Indigenous people had their own name for the creek which you proceeded to discuss and detailed misspellings of the earlier name for the creek. Fine okay, but I never mentioned this in the video. Therefore, I'm wondering why you think my account is inaccurate.

[@VHMMP]

I was born in Brisbane in 1957 and grew up mainly in Ascot, yet I had never heard of the Frontier Wars, nor about the aboriginal encampments around Breakfast Creek. So much of Brisbane's history was never taught and probably still isn't taught to school children of the City. My brothers and I used to row along Breakfast Creek in an old tub pair during the mid-1970s. Thanks Rob, for another great history tour.

[@2W0D3N]

There is a video on KZbin about the qld frontier wars it’s quite disturbing viewing but definitely worth a watch to understand the brutality of the British empire and they say the Vikings were brutal, it’s nothing compared to what they did in Qld

[@walkaboutwithrob]

@frankbambling Can you please provide a link to the video you mentioned?

[@2W0D3N]

@@walkaboutwithrob kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKsZqyJdqabj8kfeature=shared

[@2W0D3N]

@@walkaboutwithrob that’s should be it there mate, it’s a bit more brutal than the tv programme they brought out

[@2W0D3N]

@@walkaboutwithrobmy grandmothers, great grandparents had a sheep run at what’s now called heritage park here in Logan in 1865, Joseph Shirley, a descendent from the Ettington park manor in England a lot of family history in that name and land it’s featured in the doomsday book and have had knights fight along side kings and also sheriff of Nottingham in 1420, as a history buff I really enjoy your channel especially the local history. Thankyou you

[@becsterbrisbane6275]

This was really interesting Rob! Bonus about the quarry and fossils found- I literally just got back from the Outback yesterday and visited Winton & the fantastic dinosaur museum out there. When I simply could have looked in my own backyard here, lol!

[@eloise2686]

Thanks Rob, what another great video !!

[@WobblyBootsDuke]

Nice walkabout around my old manor. From early 1974 to '83 we lived on Crosby Road. Dad and mum bought a house at the western end of the s-bends -- a small road that runs parallel to the main road, which I suspect used to be the original Gaythorn Road. You mentioned a series of different Albions -- where we lived is Albion Heights. Maybe just a wanky name that stuck. Our house fence line bordered Ascot on at the east and Hamilton at the south. Not sure if that's true but it might explain the "heights' added to Albion. We were teens in the 70's -- we used to buy our 'vegetation' in the Stradbroke Bar at the Albion Hotel, then partied at the Brekky Creek Hotel. Terrific memories I cannot recall haha. Thanks also for the graphics you showed. Quite a few I've not seen before.

[@Annie-m1h3y]

I always enjoy your videos and you making me laugh😂 As someone who lived in East Sussex England for over 40yrs, your picture of the White Cliffs Dover is in fact the Seven Sisters cliffs in East Sussex. Some 76miles away from Dover. I know your Australian viewers probably couldn’t care less🤣but I do!!!🤣. Sorry about that!!🤣

[@ferriscbr600rr4]

Excellent video as usual. However, you might have missed the century old saddlery, C A Stephan & Sons, that was located on the Sandgate Rd & Frodsham St cnr of the Albion 5 Ways. You may remember they had a LifeSize horse statue mounted to the top of the building. Again thank you for your excellent content on KZbin. Cheers.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Yes I did miss it. And the reason being is that I was not aware of the existence of this company at all, nor of the horse on top of the building. Albion is not an area I was familiar with. With that said, it is not possible for me to include everything that adds to the history of an area. I have to make harsh decisions about what to include, and what to omit. Otherwise, my videos would run for hours, and I'm sure no one wants to watch me for that long! 😂

[@tropicalennui]

So glad the algorithm finally gave me your channel - I love the videos! Crossing my fingers that you'll do one of Bowen Hills/Newstead area one day 😊

[@jackthelad9933]

i also feel lucky stumbling across his channel. been very entertaining!

[@hoightb]

Have a look through his list of videos, I think he's already done one on Bowen Hills.

[@florecista1]

Another great video. Thanks.

[@divarachelenvy]

Always love your videos Rob cheers.

[@jessdean5500]

Thank you, Rob, for another very informative video. I always find your content interesting.

[@elephantgiftstore]

My Great Grandfather A.D.Campbell owned Albion Bakery which was next door to the Albion Hotel around 1900. A mural of it features on the walls of the Wooloowin Station and often shows up in historic Albion photos.

[@OldFellaDave]

Nice one, enjoyed it. I know 3/5th of bugger all about Albion as well, but now I know a bit more ;) #Southside

[@TrevorChatwood]

Really well done. Most enjoyable for someone who grew up across the river in Bulimba. Thanks.

[@stuartdouglas7741]

Thanks @walkaboutwithrob One day I hope to see you on a bicycle😊

[@walkaboutwithrob]

...might be a long wait!

[@BradGryphonn]

Another interesting journey around one of our older suburbs. Thanks again, Rob.

[@Bundydream]

Thank you Rob for all of your hard work that goes into all of your videos, really enjoyed it.

[@elfinvale]

i'm not even 5 mins in and i've already learnt something new. i'd assumed that Aboriginal aquaculture complexes weren't limited to Budj Bim in Victoria. i had no idea that there'd been one in Brisbane! it'd be awesome if the council commemorated it (and other sites that definitely exist around the city).

[@elfinvale]

oh, just had a thought: have you read/heard about The Last Gundir? it's a historical fiction novel set in the years before the europeans arrived. the author, Nayef Din, isn't Aboriginal, but he did a lot of research and consulted extensively with the Turrbal people and it's apparently really accurate. i can't attach links to youtube comments, but if you google "The Last Gundir" you'll be able to find it. it's also in the brisbane libraries.

[@elfinvale]

22:28 that pun was terrible hahaha

[@Capt_Samba]

In the late 90's there was a unofficial brothel in the then rented flats at the old Albion fire station. We had one mate that always needed a lift home from their, it was even known as the "fire" station lol

[@biancamccosker7550]

I love your videos Rob, you are incredibly funny and entertaining. I was hoping you would mention the Rebels club house that was burnt down and rebuilt. A piece of our colourful history. That in itself could give you enough content for an entire episode.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

@biancamccosker7550 thanks very much for your kind feedback. To be honest the Rebels club house never came up in the research...

[@riverland22]

"Yule find out" 😝

[@aribob2012]

Love your videos rob, im learning so much about brisbane,.......im a bracken ridge boy and this is extremely fascinating, great work mate

[@t-rocks1960]

Awesome mate, those aerial pics of the quarry were amazing..

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Thank Tony. I now can't remember where I got them from.

[@straightedgeredhead]

Another fantastic doco - thank you

[@aussieguy1012]

Hi Rob can you possibly do kedron?. Its quite old also. Thanks mate live your work

[@midnightrambler6018]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU , THANK YOU..... ALBION MEANS A LOT TO ME.. YOUR BEST YET........ KEEP ON CHOOGLIN' ROB.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Will do, and thanks!

[@livinginitaly16years80]

Across the road from the adult shop my grandad patrick osullivan ran a butcher shop ,it was demolished in the late seventies to make way for a bigger road which never happened,(you can stoll see the stairs leading into the shop partof the shop foundationncan still be sern)my mum worked at theTAB for 20 years

[@grahambishop263]

Great video, quite alot of intersting facts in this one! Love it

[@darlingdownstransportservi3529]

Back down at the big carpark near the overbridge was an Allison aircraft engine overhaul facility during WW2

[@mickcampbell9136]

It was a shame the Breakfast Creek wharf was demolished 😢

[@WendywdjnyJ]

another great vid 👍🏻 thankyou 😊 and love the laugh 😊

[@clubgus07]

Thanks Robert that was a great one. Im gonna visit Breakie hotel more often instead of bypassing the area. But yeah wasnt the hotel on the Midnight oil song your dreamworld and it was up for sale.

[@sammo5786]

Quite sure the brothels just moved down Sandgate road a little 😂😂

[@ianlavery3562]

Nice one Rob I really enjoyed it 😎😎😎

[@ivanf6938]

I always knew the Chinese temple by the name "the Joss House". Which is how my father referred to it. Spent a lot of time in the area as a kid in the boaties precinct at the end of Argyll St around Tripcony's boat builders. There were some wartime structures around that area. Including a shed and wharf which I heard serviced american patrol boats. It survived until 74. After that the council came through and demolished a lot of stuff on the creek banks for flood mitigation works. Never knew there was a school near the pub. Thanks Rob.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Thanks for your comment

[@adamjones1805]

Another very interesting video.👍

[@rustyhguitar1]

I lived in Albion from 1972 to 1982. Bale St - and my Dad continued to live there until he passed in 2018. I remember the shops next to the station and the kids my age (ish) who lived there. The Salvos were on the corner of Albion Rd and Lane St until 2003

[@CliveWrigglesworth007]

I love your vids!

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Thanks! I love making them

[@digitalreid]

Great stuff as always Rob. You should head west sometime. I think Toowong, Taringa, St Lucia and Indooroopilly offer a lot of very interesting history.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

I've been thinking of doing one on Indooroopilly

[@digitalreid]

Yep the bridge has an interesting history with families living in it, and the development of Shoppingtown in the ‘70s was a big change to the area. Look forward to it.

[@jahrap6733]

Figtree Pocket, Lone Pine, and Mandalay, very interesting Rob, keep up the great work.

[@lukeamery6516]

It’s nice to just chill out and watch your videos mate and learn along the way 👍

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Thanks 👍

[@SilkyS1LK1ESilk]

another great story Rob, Waiting for the Wilston/Grange area.

[@aussiejubes]

I could have called out to you & said hello out of my window during this walkabout if I'd seen you 😂 I'm 45 & lived Northside my whole life, & this was a great reminder of things I'd forgotten. Like I remember when that little road that runs beside maccas was called Old Sandgate Road. Now it's just Sandgate road. I often walk/drive around & notice how many lovely old buildings there are in Albion & now I know a little of the history! I didn't realise that I could walk to the Brekky Creek if I wanted to as well. Seeing you walk it, I realise it's not a huge walk lol. I couldn't walk back, but I could earn my wines by walking there! The old post office building is similar to the old post office building on sandgate road at clayfield too. There must have been an accepted style. Thanks for this! So interesting as always!

[@AlisonReacts]

Loved this! I’ve always been a local of Wooloowin and surrounding areas and I have always wanted to make that fire station by Wooloowin station into a home. Imagine! A girl can day dream! Thank you!!! Love these videos

[@walkaboutwithrob]

@AlisonReacts Thanks for watching!

[@Coles900gbutter]

Its pretty awesome to watch your videos and see the history behind the area's that ive grown up and travelled through and never had second thoughts about said area.

[@IanWiley]

Another informative video. Ill be in the area on Sunday on the way to North Stradbroke Island.

[@RAPINCITE]

14:51 it is a bit eerie around there at night. I use to live on racecourse Rd, I would always walk home from the city.

[@RAPINCITE]

Wow the curtain special, they must have been importing em from the cross. Fresh out of wooloomoloo.

[@uzetaab]

great video thanks!

[@sebdevine88]

Haha thought the title was two “Bunnings”!

[@davidwatson3921]

Hey Rob wonder if you ever investigated Cloudland Bowen hills?

[@walkaboutwithrob]

...not as yet

[@RAPINCITE]

Thanks learnt heaps 👍

[@jamescolindaley]

in a way my life was kind of centred around that pub the breakfast creek hotel but i never knew how that ghost person died ,,well use hear all kinds of stories but now i actually know .

[@australianlegoguy]

The old TAB a building was purchased by the new Queensland Fire Department (former QFES) because they are leaving the Kedron Emergency Service Complex as their new Headquarters.

[@RAPINCITE]

Didn't know that thanx

[@calllewop3650]

Amazing work Rob, would you consider doing New Farm and the Fortitude Valley with its history including the sugar refinery, New Farm Park and the history of the Fitzgerald Inquiry?

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Am keen to do one on the Valley

[@calllewop3650]

@walkaboutwithrob look forward to watching it if you can do it. Love your work Rob

[@87aiden-h3g]

Love your videos, can you do tweed heads and kingscliff?

[@walkaboutwithrob]

I recently did Coolangatta...

[@jackdawg4579]

oh no! The busy bee used to do a good feed!

[@GizmosBushEscapes]

yeah enjoyed watching that. I am heading to Albion Park in Sydney soon. wonder if they have stuff in common. 😁

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

Politicians' Offices and Brothels??? 🤔😈

[@GizmosBushEscapes]

@@theoztreecrasher2647 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Let me know if you find any connection between them please

[@GizmosBushEscapes]

@@walkaboutwithrob I will

[@DangItAll]

‘It burned down in 2013, apparently the victim of arson’. Yes indeed….🤔

[@stewartlee8858]

turps to scrub the wooden floors didn't help

[@supersonic436]

Love your videos so much! I love learning about local history :) If it is at all possible, could you please do a video about Caboolture/morayfeild? The whole area gives me weird haunted vibes, like something bad once happened there. Ive always wondered if there is any reason to that, I can't find anything personally. Keep doing what your doing! Thankyou so much!

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Thanks so much. Yes, I'm keen to explore the Caboolture area. Not sure I'd be covering ghosts or hauntings though...

[@sonyamachen107]

Great video Rob, come to Sandgate!

[@walkaboutwithrob]

It's on my list...!

[@paulfri1569]

​@@walkaboutwithrobMaryborough also please 🎉

[@jasoreed]

Ya- wah- garrah is how it is pronounced , I see you have Ray Kerkhoves book as well. I believe the larger camp was up at Crosby Park where the fresh water lagoons were at Albion Park. The Turrbal ppl were initiates of the Jagera not a seperate nation.

[@walkaboutwithrob]

There do seem to be conflicting idea and beliefs about which tribe was connected or part of other tribes. I don't think there is a consensus

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

Keep bearding mate

[@peterware5173]

Ah no no brissy is a super city so happy to have lived in the beautiful place,auckland don't offer my desire thanks rob.

[@defenderoftheadverb]

I'm thinking about getting back on my bike too. I'm somewhat reserved about it because I had a few accidents ...

[@avenjames9979]

Hey rob, found your channel a while back and now I can’t stop watching it aha, I was wondering if you could maybe do a video about the history around the Ormeau/Pimpima area as I would be very intrigued to learn more about around the area I live in. Love the work you do and keep it up

[@walkaboutwithrob]

I am keen to cover those areas...

[@avenjames9979]

@@walkaboutwithrob that would be absolutely fantastic, there looks to be a lot of history around those areas.

[@skatedd2451]

No wonder they built the post office like Fort Knox

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

🚬🤠 plenty of work for bricklayers in 1925 it would appear ☝️ they don’t build em like that much anymore 👉🔥🧨

[@yossarianbombardier6823]

Great video and history Rob.....the Breakfast Creek (the creek itself) hasn't changed much in 100 years...just some concrete embankments near the pub. Better story than those poncy suburbs like Fig Tree Pocket.

[@WalkingandTalkingAussieGirl]

always drive past that spot and never knew of the settlement

[@walkaboutwithrob]

@WalkingandTalkingAussieGirl it never ceases to amaze me just how much history there is to discover here.

[@IBISChannel32]

17:42 - 😂

[@peaBaustralia86]

So we’ve been building with Chinese materials since 1885 in Australia. 😅

[@dougmaddog373]

Rob Rob with the big Knob 😂

[@jennenegreenhill935]

Mary Hennessy was my great x4 grandmother

[@walkaboutwithrob]

Very cool! Do you have any family documents of her life?

[@peterware5173]

Hi Rob I lived in Albion wooloowin for 10 years orso it was very nice and handy to everything, im currently in scrappy auckland returning soon tho as I love brissy so much thanks Rob.

[@HumanimalChannel]

Omg I'd take dorkland over brisneyland, let's swap

[@wint44]

yes Rob you are right, you have me.

[@RAPINCITE]

19:14 Rob you should be looking into cracks & crevices, in half these century old buildings, you might find a 1930s penny 🪙 😅

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

like 👍🏻 number 699 , great video

[@kenjackson4116]

very good document history. I wonder why australian television dont educate australians programes like this about australia? Many countries in europe they show a lot of history of thier own country and towns and they always have done that for years and years to educate the locals and to let them learn the history. if brisbane ever did shows and programes like this on the local channel they teach locals and people of brisbane the history of suburbs and everything. Last time i ask someone whos an australian and i ask you remember World Expo 88 ? and the reaction was they dont no nothing about it nor they dont no what it is.. this is how you can see many australians are not very educated about the truth of australia and your suburbs and cities... Maybe the attitutes are kind of like they only knows whats might happen tomorow. BUT THEY DONT NO the past history which is a missing point Again another issue for low educated on australian television. By the way australian television covers 80% everything to do wtih UK and American programing with very little made and to do with made in australia. Think about it!