Why does everyone hate Samsung Exynos? 🔥

[@parshakamarsh]

I bought the S23 plus this year which is the first Samsung I've bought since the S8 plus, mainly due to them getting rid of those battery draining hand warmers called Exynos. I shall be returning to the opposition on my next upgrade if the Snapdragons disappear again, I don't want a second rate product because of where I live

[@avnertouitou3778]

Yes and I'll do the same

[@vakiza]

same!!

[@mjhieusuper]

If I heard any Exynos words in next Samsung phones, I will switch to another phone brands and never looks back. Exynos is junk and always be junk for next decay. Currently happy with my current s23 ultra 1tb 😊

[@parshakamarsh]

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M it's not as if the Exynos equivalents performed any better than those two chips, in fact they were still worse. If it was a year when both chips were running poorly it's simple, I just wouldn't upgrade at all that year

[@casuarius6576]

@@mjhieusuper And Qualcomm is garbage and always will be.

[@andyw386]

The 2 problems they face is: 1. Even if it has the potential to perform better than Snapdragon, the Snapdragon will still be more optimised by devs. And 2. Even if they do make a decent chip, people aren't going to immediately become super excited. Just hearing the word "Exynos" really puts a lot of people off. Both of these problems can only be solved if they're good, and good *consistently* so it's going to take them years to turn things around, and they're fighting an uphill battle of their own making. I hope they do well, some added competition for Snapdragon means better chips and/or lower prices for us the customers.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

You are wrong in one thing, the price is going up not down if more and more chip manufacturers are sharing the market, just think about it, if 100million sold chip need to cover the investment it cost less per chip when you need to get the same on 40million sold chip, and you can be sure nobody will say that we selling less amount of chip, so the yearly.profit is also fine if will be lower.. they will charge more on each chip to maintain their previous year profit, even if they manufacturing judt half amount of chip, they wi not give up the profit.. the only difference here is that you need to pay millions for multiple companies just for the chip design/yearly innovations, and you will pay that price even if they only sell 1 chip per year..

[@naqibfarhan4356]

The way I see it they have to essentially beat sd 8 gen 3 in every single catagory ie. Performance, battery life and heating by atleast 10% to remove the bad public image associated with the word "EXYNOS". But the problem is I find that happening to be highly UNLIKELY.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

@@naqibfarhan4356 the heating is the most problem, without that they should keep up the performance, but because of the heating they throttle more like the others, what cost them the sustained performance. And the heating issue comes from the inferior Samsung fab, their transistor density is a joke, and if you need to make a bigger chip to use the same amount of transistor, then they lose a lot (the 30% longer wire had the exactly same extra resistant like the 30% wider wire, so their 4nm use the same energy like the 5.2nm from the others)

[@MemberOfGeniusSociety]

one huge problem problem with exynos chip is bad gpu driver optimization , since eclipse is based on RDNA and the support is almost non existent, even for mali and adreno gpu optimization still lacking and the gpu update able driver support in play store is non existent, gpu driver still depends on firmware update from the OS update. Another thing is the ISP optimization, exynos 2200 have bad camera video recording on launch ,this is quite funny since samsung is the exynos owner and it's run bad again on their phone s22 ultra exynos. From here we can see although samsung phones use chipset from their own, the optimization suks hard which is a shame

[@AntiGrieferGames]

Exynos is using MaliGPU, so most MaliGPU Cpu arent good optimized for devs. on Snapdragon they mostly do (except the samsung manufactor ones like 865?, 865+?, 888, 8 gen 1...)

[@Koudmaker]

The Adreno GPU in the Snapdragon was crazy fast compared to the Mali GPU in the Exynos chipset.

[@casuarius6576]

The Exynos 2100 Mali GPU Beated the Qualcomm 888 Adreno in 3d Mark. Problem is the optimization

[@mateusferro271]

​@@casuarius6576The 3d mark didnt make my games get more fps, otimization or not is not my problem, why would I get something that performs worse.

[@casuarius6576]

@@mateusferro271 Exynos performs better. Key is optimization.

[@ThibautMahringer]

​​@@casuarius6576 Optimization is not the issue. Mali GPUs are known to have very poor OpenGL ES drivers (which is the most commonly used API on Android). It's where Mali fails. On paper they are indeed faster (8 Gen 2 GPU being the obvious exception), but their APIs support is crap.

[@casuarius6576]

@@ThibautMahringer Developers should use Vulkan Api.

[@marmiksinghania7857]

The problem is how Samsung chip manufacturing processes are infamous for producing chips that overheat(and thus consumes more power with poorer performance) no matter which chip you purchase(for eg nvidia 30 series graphics card) until they fix that TSMC will be in a huge lead no matter what....

[@NetvoTV]

Is it the circuit design of the chip or the manufacture process

[@octagonPerfectionist]

@@NetvoTVit’s the manufacturing process

[@nugget6635]

Wrong. Their manufacturing process is actually as good as TSMC. HOWEVER. It's Exynos's chip architecture that sucks ass... Why are they using Mali GPU? Adreno is so much better.

[@octagonPerfectionist]

@@nugget6635 the CPU itself is the same architecture, with minor differences. the problem they had with the mali GPUs historically were that they skimped on the size of the gpu and jacked up frequency to compensate. i don’t know if this is still the case but it was a common problem in some android SoCs for awhile.

[@aaaaaaaaau]

@@nugget6635 it isn't as good as tsmc. snapdragon 888 and 8th gen1 was maufactured by samsung and had mediocre to poor efficiency. better than exynos though.

[@xbox1445]

Very interesting, I hope Samsung cracks the chip market finally but honestly perhaps they would be better served at the moment using "high end" exynos chips that almost but don't match snapdragon in their non premium phones. Almost flagship performance for the users, higher margins for Samsung but more importantly massive amounts of real world data to work out efficiencies and iterate until Exynos is a flagship level chip.

[@malidan1196]

They used to be in box seat before making deals with Qualcomm. Go and ask LG who destroyed their mobile phone reputation and business with their hand warmers.

[@bulletpunch9317]

​@@malidan1196box seat? What deal?

[@malidan1196]

@@bulletpunch9317 To fabricate SD SOC's. Samsung make more money from components than phones.

[@malidan1196]

@@bulletpunch9317 I see your knowledge is shallow and you can't remember when the Exynos was best and Samsung turned feature off and throttle to match up with the SD.🤭

[@bulletpunch9317]

@@malidan1196 when was all that? The throttling to match sd? And what does samsung fabbing sd chips have to do with this?

[@mattia51296]

The thing that drives me crazy is the fact that they're deliberately making two phones that perform very differently from each other and still selling them at the same price. If they want to keep using their chip to gain insights and data about performance etc. for developing purposes, they should offer that model at a lower price full stop, or just stick to using ONE chip for all markets, whether it be SD or Exy. I won't be buying any other S Ultra until we have some serious results and equity between the two models. My S21 Ultra is literally unusable this summer, due to constant overheating and low battery life. It's a fucking joke

[@victordavalos246]

At least thet should fully disclose which phone are selling to you, but thats the kicker, they try so hard to hide wich version are you buying, you have to go to third-party sources to know which version they are sending to which country

[@kmimiteh]

I think that if they launch the s24 series with Exynos in some countries, a good answer to that from general public would be not buying it or buying offers on the s23 series till sold out. I think that, if they want to experiment with Exynos, they can do it with medium to lower devices. Samsung sells a lot on these categories so it can be worth for them. If you pay for premium, you are expeacting premium processor, but if you pay half ot third of premium, why not to be a good "territory" for Exynos to try? Maybe one day Samsung actually manage to get to the top with their chip (I doubt it) but, in the mean time, is very baf idea to keep premium prices om mediocre processor, they losing trust of consumers, like they did already with their tvs by overpricing Leds, drpping qualitu one year to another, bad software upgrade (like iPhone, so next year launch looks much bette) etc..

[@wildyato3737]

It makes me disappointment why a Deca core Exy.2400 gets outclassed ..In a video it was literallly laging on home screen with idle state... Its a flagship processor you know...Why people won't Sue exynos to stop making ..or start making neew chipsets😢😢😢

[@barbar1an_]

​@@kmimiteh 24 series is fucking weird here, s24 and 24+ use exynos but ultra uses snapdragon... what the fuck. Atleast s23 series ran all snapdragon. Now you literally have to psy for more speed even when its ment to be flagship series, not just one phone, slltho exynos they use in s24 series probably outperforms last series still likely

[@jacksonreventan]

Something really painful about exynos also comes in the form of Tensor. Heats up like crazy, bad battery life and whatnot. And huge part of the blame goes to the exynos the Tensor was based on.

[@Demonhead1]

yes! also no one talks about it!

[@nopenope1]

yeah, Pixel 6 victim. Just browsing the net up to 40°C with 25°C room temp and no direct sun... Samsung Modem takes 4-5% just standby compared to 1-2% with Wifi only. It' so bad... No Pixel with Samsung based tech for me. No Samsung Exynos over 400 Euro. In a low/mid device I can get over it, at least my previous phone was not ideal but fine. That was 300 Euro though. I would never spend S Galaxy money for a Exynos. Never imagine the Tensor G1 is as bad as it is...

[@jacksonreventan]

@@nopenope1 using the 6a myself. I feel your pain.

[@casuarius6576]

Try the S21 Ultra or the S22 Ultra Exynos, you won't regret it, and have better thermals and performance.@@nopenope1

[@bandito241]

@@nopenope1not that bad since you can find Samsung phones that are pretty cheap (like less than 50% of original price) after two years new.

[@maximusg88]

Very happy that I bought the S23 ultra with a Snapdragon in February - so I won't have to worry about any Exynos lemons for the next 4 years

[@casuarius6576]

And Exynos is good.

[@parshakamarsh]

​@@casuarius6576yeah, right.. 😂

[@casuarius6576]

I'ts proven by the tests🤣@@parshakamarsh 😂😂

[@ilynpayne7491]

​@@casuarius6576it's trash😮

[@casuarius6576]

Exynos is great😎👌👌 and not trash/junk like their competition, proven by tests and benchmarks.@@ilynpayne7491

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Most tech enthusiasts either don't know or seemingly ignore the fact that Exynos used to be superior vs Snapdragon many years ago. U.S. users would have to import the international Exynos model if they wanted better performance, battery life, and features like 4K 60fps video recording WITH NO TIME LIMIT. Snapdragon models were restricted to 4K 60fps recording with a 5 minute time limit. Exynos was the first to not have that limitation. It would be great for Exynos to eventually become for Galaxy phones what the A-series chips are for iPhones. Tighter integration between the SoC and One UI would be amazing.

[@aishite_imasu097]

As much as I don't like the Exynos chips, I want Samsung to succeed with their Exynos push. We want competition on the market, not a monopoly. This will make Qualcomm stand down for a little esp on prices.

[@fantasytky28]

With the lousy Samsung manufactured one? Thanks to Samsung lousy manufacturering, we had so many version of overheating and lousy chips for years. Luckily tsmc took over. No more lousy one from Samsung anymore, not now, not future See how pixel tensor still suffering in 2023 thanks to Samsung when all others have move on

[@qwerty6789x]

​​@@fantasytky28Google's Tensor chips are Samsung EXYNOS😂 look how Google pixel has same heat issue and thermal throttling

[@theidiotgamer4306]

I hope exynos get smacked even by sd 8gen2 and sell waaaay less s24 than s23. After that they will understand that they can't facking around with our money.

[@99Teutons]

​@@theidiotgamer4306i hope it gets smacked by 8gen1.

[@theidiotgamer4306]

@@99Teutons ahahah I don't think they could make exynos 2400 that bad... 🤣🤣 And 8gen 1 is already a really bad, Samsung made chip...

[@vincelongman3264]

Well it simply depends if Samsung Foundry has closed the huge gap with TSMC or not. I doubt it since it seems Samsung's 3GAP won't be ready yet

[@KimJongTrump98]

3gap is 3nm chip, exynos 2400 is 4nm.. Its yield is 75% while tsmc is 80%. Its expected samsung 4nm yield will reach 80% when s24 launched

[@neilbenson7346]

Had an exynos based is S22 but traded it out early because of poor battery life and heat. So I was happy to hear they'd switched for the S23 - was considering an S24 next year. If it's back to Exynos though - probably not. Shame really

[@SuplexCityF5]

Samsung is unnecessarily overpriced tbh compared to the competitors like oneplus which also ships similar hardware . I know Samsung build quality is better & all but it's not worth double the price of oneplus or Xiaomi . after all they all have the same hardware inside but only rebranded as different companies

[@Cocxy69]

​@@SuplexCityF5what makes iPhone different then? Thats not how it works

[@casuarius6576]

Qualcomm S22 bade model as worse in heating management and efficiency.

[@SuplexCityF5]

@@Cocxy69 aaand then we have dumb people apparently who doesn't know anything but just want to argue for the sake of it

[@kubotite9168]

​@@SuplexCityF5you also got better software updates on samsung..and the xioami one..i stay five feet away from their device..yeah they were cheap and have good soc but the problem of build quality and battery bloating in just 2 years..just nahh

[@adam-k]

I have an S22 Exynos. And I don't really notice any issues with it. Battery last more than a day, everything works as expected. It is never hot and never freezes. I really don't know what people use their phone to notice the differences.

[@pixelgaming7261]

I hope Samsung releases two versions: A cheaper Exynos version (maybe $100 or so) and a regular priced Snapdragon version.

[@malidan1196]

Dream on. The day is fast coming where they may go all Exynos, that's because they only need the SD for US 4G bands.

[@Espada_no_4]

I doubt. But that would be acceptable. As things are right now, in my region, I can buy only Exynos version.

[@pixelgaming7261]

@@Espada_no_4 Seriously, us Europeans don't need that Exynos crap.

[@kolefxnemanjak.1361]

Here, we have both and both of them have a different price. I was looking for galaxy s22, which costs 550 dollars with Exynos chip and 800 dollars with Snapdragon chip

[@casuarius6576]

@@pixelgaming7261 Us Europeans don't need Qualcomm garbage. Exynos is good.

[@007.M-D]

You could add that in Europe for example we had less for more ..... the price were higher due to money conversion, higher local taxes etc ...... that was really unfair, less power, more throttling, less battery. less optimisation. And when it comes to a flagship price,some people don't know when they buy but Will eventually learn from competitors, geeky friends, hence feel betrayed. Remember flagships changes every 12 months, when competitors blow away you specs a few months after the buy , and you're still paying you phone's plan for one or two years..... bad taste in the mouth. Again we are talking high price flagship. So if it exists somewhere else. then you must give something in return. law of commerce. Samsung is a great company, they make great products very often, i hope that they understand that an Exynos even just on par With the Snapdragon would require, more gifts to consumers, and probably youtubers.

[@ArthurZakaryan23]

Even though the Tensor chipsets in Pixel phones are different than a stock Exynos that would go in a Galaxy, some hope of how good or bad a Exynos in a S24 will be hinged on how good the Tensor G3 in the Pixel 8 phones perform particularly in the way of general performance and efficiency since both areas were behind comparable Snapdragons. With rumors that the Tensor G3 is in for its biggest change yet, an Exynos in a S24 may not be as bad as we're thinking.

[@KimJongTrump98]

Wrong bro, tensor g3 is based on exynos 2300, not exynos 2400

[@adbhutspinogaming]

Samsung recently fired their whole processor making team and they took almost 2 years to develop this one and we can hope that its this 2400 . So there is still a little hope but as we all know it has never been to our expectations , lets hope for the best ..

[@唐子毅]

Maybe

[@fantasytky28]

​​@@adbhutspinogamingthat was what Sammy boy said years ago when we bashed lousy exynos, saying the exynos will take over snapdragon soon with the collaboration with amd or what ever shit. Doom snapdragon guess what. Exynos doomed earlier

[@lucasvelesik8882]

​@@GH0STST4RSCR34MWell it's chip made by samsung and it's been based off current gen exynos both years. It's not the same, but the basic architecture is

[@RichardRatner.1972]

I think us UK customers are going to get screwed again with Xynos chips. Big love, kindest regards, Richard U.K

[@mikldude9376]

Don’t feel alone mate , historically in Australia we got bent over with the sub standard Exynos too . As always , in the end , it’s all about making a buck by giving a portion of the customers a cheaper chipset , while giving the premium chipset to the more valued customers.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Get a foldable.They all use SnapDragon

[@RichardRatner.1972]

@@LarsRyeJeppesen Many thanks my friend 🙏

[@casuarius6576]

Screwed? That stopped since the Exynos 2100 and 2200.

[@fb2565]

Samsung doens't believe that both CPU are same level otherwise they would give the Exynos to Ultra, too. Exynos is for lower priced devices and countries which are not that important for them.

[@princenemesis]

All of us here in the UK are dreading it

[@SSSTIERWAIFU]

bruh! remember when exynos used to be better than snapdragon? wayyy back in galaxy S6, S7 edge days.

[@andreylucass]

They should at least offer Snapdragon on all Ultra devices.

[@casuarius6576]

Better offer Exynos in the Ultra models as well.

[@JesManVP]

The s23 has snap dragon on all models

[@MemberOfGeniusSociety]

the problem with exynos 2100 and its eclipse gpu is the driver, driver is not optimal and even i heard they're using api translator vulkan to OpenGL, this even with high efficiency makes the performance load higher or the gpu works extra, instead of using native OpenGL that works well and better

[@tadeas6728]

Last year I wanted to switch from poor Exynos S9. But after release of the S22 and experience over the Internet I had to change my mind. I wanna have flagship for 4-5 years and it would be another long pain. So I was hoping. And I was lucky with the S23. I am impressed with this year's battery life, performance and cold running of the phone. I don't see any reason to pay expensive phone in the EU and make more money to Samsung for discounts in Snapdragon countries like US. Especially if they sell me much worse device.

[@casuarius6576]

try Exynos in the S24.

[@tadeas6728]

@@casuarius6576 no, I buy a phone for ca. 4 - 5 years so I am not gonna buy it with SD or Exynos anyway...

[@99Teutons]

​@@casuarius6576The s24 won't even last more than 24H on standby. That's how trash those Exynos chips are.

[@casuarius6576]

@@99Teutons the S23 can't last more than 48 hours on standby. How's crap are Qualcomm chispets also the competition chipsets in front of Exynos.

[@RubenQuadros]

In the Uk we always got the Exynos version and as a Consumer I never had issues . Untill the youtubers went on and on about the exynos vs snapdragon nonsense. I am still rocking my exynos S21 ultra with no issues and still giving me good battery life even with gaming like COD mobile. So skipped the S22 and S23 ultra. Might go for the S24 ultra even if its exynos if it ticks my boxes.

[@gregorywhite3946]

If they are using snapdragon in core markets and ultra - Samsung know it’s better. All others with exynos are paying the same for less. Equivalent performance isn’t good enough to pay the same and be part of the beta testing programme to improve future models.

[@solaire07]

Lets hope that since samsung makes exynos, they continue to release software updates that help work alongside and help the exynos chip perform better in the long run and even better yet (a man can dream), outeperform snapdragon.

[@nuclearwinter391]

I had the S22 Ultra with Exynos. The performance was trash compared to Snapdragon. I'll never buy anything with a Exynos chip again

[@casuarius6576]

S22U Exynos chipset performs great and smooth,

[@nuclearwinter391]

@@casuarius6576 compared to Snapdragon? Sure, go and get your booster.

[@casuarius6576]

Yes, Proved by tests and benchmarks, go to check it by yourself. @@nuclearwinter391

[@_YashSawant]

​​​@@casuarius6576 stop meatriding Exynos already, our trust has been broken by Samsung Multiple Times in the past, we aren't going to be trusting Exynos ever again even if it performs better than SD on paper or real test it doesn't matter anymore how good Exynos becomes, we got trust issues with the name Exynos

[@dylanneve7013]

Btw it's not Samsung LSI the S in SLSI stands for System. Fully it's Samsung SLSI (System Large Scale Integration)

[@Tenki65]

It's easy. If the next Samsung flagship uses Exynos I'm not getting it. Rocking a Fold 4 now and given the differences I'm not upgrading to Fold 5. If the Fold 6 or other folding flagship next gets Exynos it's game over for Samsung for me.

[@pranavjs]

What if they get the making right and instead of thermal throttling and low gpu performance,they out perform snapdragon with better GPU by amd?

[@avnertouitou3778]

I like your words and I'll do the same

[@avnertouitou3778]

​@pranavjs not happening Samsung is just lazy and thinks of saving money and here is what I think pay up Samsung give as what we want and you'll get your money worth otherwise you'll lose everything just like LG Samsung clearly lost a lot of money same as apple profit is going down only company climbing up is honor giving us what we want and keeping price really low

[@briandsouza7854]

​@@pranavjsIt doesn't matter much, the tech community (we) are a very small group of consumers. The people that buy a flagship every year or buy their preferred brand will buy it anyways.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

The Fold never used Exynos

[@PScool3590YT]

Exynos chip model has 1 benefit is the bootloader is easy to unlock then the snapdragon model

[@andreasborkes695]

The Exynos name is burned forever. I don‘t want an Exynos Chip. If they want to lose even more customers to Apple, then they should bring the Exynos.

[@casuarius6576]

Nice joke. Exynos isn't burned forever. If they want gain more costumers from Apple they should bring back Exynos with better performance and efficiency.

[@ShadowedZer0]

Thats IF they can deliver such gains.

[@mephistophelesgg7963]

probably will switch to apple, if s24 will have exynos

[@casuarius6576]

Cry then, you never have tried Exynos.@@mephistophelesgg7963

[@dxtnguyxn4179]

I think the main issue is Samsung foundry. If Samsung switch to TSMC, these type of issue won’t be a problem.

[@manojgail]

I bought S21 Ultra in India. It was last Exynos in India. After 2 years use, it drains battery like anything. Using 10-15% battery use while being on standby. Heats up like oven while using Camera. On the other hand I have Galaxy S7+ Tab with Snapdragon 865. It barely loses 1% in overnight despite being 6 months more old than the phone. Now desperately waiting for S24 to come out in few months so that I can switch to Snapdragon finally.

[@parshakamarsh]

You're better off getting an S23, they're supposed to be going back to Exynos for the S24

[@manojgail]

@@parshakamarsh yes bro I also read about it. But I also read that it's gonna be limited to South Korea.

[@casuarius6576]

install the latest firmware and clean cache, probable the device is draining battery for a software issue.

[@99Teutons]

S23 will become cheaper in the upcoming BBD sale. I think u should go for that. They will have s24 with Exynos in India fosho. I'd recommend you have a look at the s23 or switch to something else. Some company that doesn't charge more than the USD value for a relatively garbage product.

[@99Teutons]

​@@casuarius6576device is draining battery because it's Exynos. No software issue No application issue No cache issue Exynos has higher idle drain and it consumes double the battery than snapdragon for doing the same task.

[@GabrielTinqMarques]

I'm on my way for a new phone, and Samsung was a top option, since iPhones are a no for me. Seeing snapdragon coming to the ultra this year I was hopeful that the new Ultra in Europe was going to be SD again with a needed improvement to the cameras (where the Ultra doesn't completely convince me). But Exynos, hard no! Maybe I give then a chance to prove me wrong, but most likely will settle for a China brand, or maybe 23Ultra on a good discount. Either way, no lower performance for same money. Don't award companies your money if they don't deliver.

[@Benny-tb3ci]

Exynos has potential. Everyone is moving towards custom silicon. Samsung is the only manufacturer with as widespread a market share and a lineup of devices covering everything from the ultra-low end to the ultra-premium end. If they can get their best chips close enough to SD, they can get very price competitive and subsidise the difference via their lower end models. And maybe that means they could support their entire lineup for longer, which is basically what's pushing customers towards Apple.

[@xDLiLi1337]

Actually Xiaomi has the same scale of products and marketshare

[@highestpointmedia4359]

The very big problem is Samsung phones with snapdragon chips are sold the same price with the inferior exynos variants. We will switch to Huawei P series if Samsung continues to cheat us with the stated reason.

[@nopenope1]

absolutly, Exynos has potential to get fusion working :P

[@kai84m]

They won't on their greatly inferior Node.

[@galerinha]

Everybody = apple, Samsung, mediatek and Qualcomm Remember tensor is also an exynos

[@LeonardoRossetto]

It is truly bad that they are returning to exynos, they could at least offer both options everywhere for customers

[@casuarius6576]

truly bad if you don't know that Exynos is good.

[@jkim0001]

Without watching the video, cuz Exynos was shit, especially the GPU performance. May have improved, but it's stuck to many people head that Exynos sucks.

[@Goshosekazvam]

Well the snapdragon in the 23U is simply amazing. I honestly hope one day Samsung will level up and be a real competitor 😊

[@okaytsonei]

Snapdragon is helping them make exynos, your competition can't help you 😂

[@Goshosekazvam]

@@okaytsonei it helps you keep the level.

[@Robloxhank]

exynos does have 1 benefit is the bootloader is unlocked so we can use custom roms on this phone

[@Freedom-of-Thought]

Long live the Jailbreak/Root. By the way, Snapdragons are able to Root too.

[@AlainLafond]

Very interesting video. But, I think that worst than the differences between Snapdragon and Exynos is the fact that Samsung makes phone with country locks. You buy a flagship phone in Asia, and when you come to north america, you realize that you don't have access to 5G. Or that some software are not available...

[@nopenope1]

that's because of diffent frequences/bands used in different countrys for 3 up to 5G. It also could be a sh*tty reason like patents behind it. Or both.

[@AlainLafond]

@@nopenope1 It's not a patent design. It's only because Samsung don't wanna pay royalties... But they still say to you that's an "international" phone...

[@nopenope1]

@@AlainLafond i already mentioned patents, in that case I see that the same. And at least a few years back some modems just do not have all bands included. This also can have a technical reason or a country has a very uncommen band in use. Esp. 5G I believe the bands are even more diverse from country to country. And we both do probably not thinking about the very high bandwidth 5G stuff, do we?

[@Joebarbage20]

Samsung Exynos phones in Nigeria always have NETWORK ISSUES. U NEVER GET FULL SIGNAL NETWORK SIGNALS IN in arrears with low network signal but Tecno, infinix, vivo has strong network signal in same environment

[@casuarius6576]

Nah. May be you carrier. Also with Qualcomm signal issues are persistent of the carriers doesn't have good network support

[@Dongzzzzzz]

Luckily for the rest of the world, other first world countries got the exynos back then and complained, if Europe and the US would have both gotten the snapdragon then samsung would just be deaf lol.

[@datathunderstorm]

I bought a Samsung S20 Note Ultra 5G with the Exynos 990 CPU chip in it instead of the Snapdragon chip. Problems? I haven’t noticed any at all. It’s a 2nd phone, my main phone is an iPhone 12 Pro Max. I’m very impressed with my S20 and haven’t experienced any shortcomings during extensive use. The batty certainly isn’t draining.

[@VarunSrinivas]

The only reason I upgraded from my S20+ was the fear of buying another Exynos phone whenever I decide to upgrade. 8 Gen2 for the Ultra has to be the most refined experience I have ever had.

[@nopenope1]

yeah, I told so many people to cherish the 23 models ;) Pixel 6 Exynos based Tensor G1 victim. Maybe it is even a worse Exynos compared to Exynos.

[@VarunSrinivas]

@@nopenope1 I hope that Exynos phones don't burn their user hands someday XD

[@nopenope1]

@@VarunSrinivas they probably already have ;) (wasn't there a safety regulation? 43°C or something like that for laptops parts where you touch it? I think 50°C does create burn damage when holding it a few 10s of minutes.

[@VarunSrinivas]

@@nopenope1 I keep my wet wipes ready whenever my phone overheats XD

[@nopenope1]

👍😂@@VarunSrinivas

[@BradizbakeD]

Every Exynos powered Samsung I've owned has never had any issues, and tbh were some of the snappier phones I've had.

[@Freedom-of-Thought]

Every product has a super luck individuals, even S888 & S8gen1 has.

[@DeyuAndreyu]

I had Samsung A54 and the Exynos was heating up just by texting, causing tons of battery drain, but now with Xiaomi Poco X5 Pro (Snapdragon), the Chipset remains cool when playing light games using a slower charger as well.

[@SlushiFoxEdits]

I got an a54 and i might go to an s23 fe cus i cant stand exynos or should i go to xiaomi

[@_YashSawant]

​@@SlushiFoxEdits DONT BUY S23 FE, it's a scam, it's S22 FE with number change because it came late, just don't

[@tofu_golem]

I'm among the few who don't hate it. The Snapdragons have really terrible GPS accuracy, so there have been times when I wished that I had an Exynos processor even if they are less efficient with battery use (I don't think most people care about having the horsepower to edit or render videos).

[@BeyondtheBoringLab]

Omg! I realise it now. My phone has lower calibration these days (S23U user) compared to my previous phone - Note 10+. I am realising it now, thanks to you.

[@fancyyahoo]

My previous phone (non-Samsung) was powered by a Snapdragon 865, and my current (also non-Samsung) phone is powered by a Snapdragon 888. I saw that both phones somehow mentioned their directional accuracy as 'low' in Google Maps, even just a single day after using calibrating the GPS and using the navigation function. Looks like this indeed might be a Snapdragon issue. Thanks for the comment!

[@timunkecut9049]

thx u for the info.

[@afanasibushmanov7463]

It's all about optimization. This processor was decent on android 13, but on Android 14 it performs like a flagship (if you do a factory reset after the update). Buttery smooth with no lags or stutters.

[@elsombero1747]

Exynos was not always bad. Till Galaxy S4, the Exynos was often better than the SD and Mediatek. That's why I was able to use my galaxy note 3 from 2013 till 2018. However, if I compare all the phones nowadays, the Exynos is garbage. Or more recent example is the comparison between my S22 Ultra (exynos) and the Galaxy S23 Ultra or Galaxy Z Fold 3 that was sold in the EU with SnapDragon SoC. My S22 Ultra always had the worst battery drain even though the battery health is currently at 99%. To be honest, that's also why I got now a Xiaomi 13 and once I paid off the s22 Ultra, I'll be selling the S22 Ultra and start using the Xiaomi 13 but first of all I have to flash EliteRom on it since stock MiUi sucks and doesn't have call recording which doesn't allow me to sue some call center company after they call me again and try to sell me some garbage or ask me if I want to join Jehovas Witnesses XD With my s22 Ultra and the call recording unlock I was already able to earn 24.700Eur. and that's also why my current car has a sticker on bumper that says "sponsored by spam call centers and my lawyer"

[@eniff2925]

I have an undervolted and overclocked exynos9810. Don't have any problems. Faster than even next gen snapdragon and many mid-high end phones today.

[@xBINARYGODx]

I come from the future to let you know the samsung chip is, yet again, worse than the snapdragon. Good thing, at last in this case, I live in the US.

[@MelonFelon57]

Goddamn i still dont understand why people cry about not having the fastest tech. Im still using Snapdragon 805 from 2014 and every other new chip is probably at least 5 times faster than mine.

[@oneminutewonder77]

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people who use a Samsung phone with an Exynos processor simply don't know or don't care. I agree it's a bit disingenuous of them to ship different and technically inferior processors with their overseas phones. That being said, I don't think we should cheer for Qualcomm in everything. They've already got the monopoly on the majority share of the market. More competition is always a good thing.

[@moondrop_5019]

Those latest release like exynos 2200 and exynos 1380 are wayyy better than those exynos released 3~4 years ago. Samsung is putting so much effort to make exynos great and efficient, just give samsung 1~2 years, it will eventually catch up with Qualcomm. 💪

[@samuelkiruba2004]

I am using a mobile with exynos 1280. I faced heating issues and reduced performance when I first bought the phone. After the one ui 5.1 update, those issues were gone. The heating was reduced and I was able to play Genshin Impact at 50 to 60 fps with the phone just warming a little. I feel like Samsung has finally optimized their mobiles for their chipset

[@wildyato3737]

We all need to SUE on Samsung Cooperation😢

[@_YashSawant]

A53?

[@samuelkiruba2004]

@@_YashSawant m33

[@_YashSawant]

@@samuelkiruba2004 oh ok

[@TheKeithvidz]

Speaking for myself my a53 celly works well for me. The subsequent a54 has a "clockier" chip but figure average users feel a big difference - unless gaming.

[@johnnyradmer3998]

A53 and 54 have the same clock speed. The difference is, a54 have 4 performance core, not 2.

[@Silkl4sh]

I never really complained about Exynos. I am from Europe and until S23 (which runs Snap 8 Gen 2) each of my Galaxy S phones was powered by exynos and I really did not see anything wrong with them. I also really like the fact samsung makes those just for the sake of competition.

[@maciejflisak5249]

im using my s8+ since 2017 with exynos and i love exynos ;)

[@deltasixtwo]

everyone forgets that in 2016 when s7 was released, how atrociously slow and bad 4core Snapdragon 820 was and how 8core Exynos 8890 was light years away in every aspect (except gpu) and still holds up nicely today.

[@MegasXLR]

I got no problems with my Note9's Exynos 9810 though, been using it for almost 4 years now (wow, time flies). Then again, maybe they went downhill after that.

[@firisrozley5768]

If Galaxy S24 series were to retain Snapdragon flagship chipsets, then I will buy the new one. If they decide to switch back to Exynos chipsets, then I'll buy S23+ once the price is right.

[@monkeboii6115]

It is already confirmed that they will switch back to exynos for some regions. If you are not living in south korea, US, you will definitepy get exynos variant.

[@khaledelsayed8312]

if that happened, the price for 23 series won't go cheaper for that reason "different chips" but i expect that s23 series will climp to be more expensive than S24 series with the trashy chips 😂😂😂

[@casuarius6576]

You should try Exynos.

[@pessoaanonima6345]

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M I think the whole american continent gets snapdragon right?

[@pessoaanonima6345]

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Well, my S7 and S9 are snapdragon and I bought them in Brazil. Anyway, I hope it doesn't get made by Samsung. We saw how much of a difference TSMC makes in the SD8 gen 2.

[@damienasmr922]

I have an Exynos S20+ and I will never buy Exynos again unless there's a monumental leap in performance.

[@DavidPaulMorgan]

Well, I just looked up which 'chip' was in my S20+ 5G SM-G986BZADBTU dual sim unit. Turns out it's a Exynos 990 2.73GHz. (I used the CPU-Z utility to find this out). I've been running it for at least 2 years and have never been worried by (a) the battery and (b) the performance - and that's for audio, video, Microsoft office apps etc. Android 13/OneUI 5.1. UK purchase. So, unless SnapDragon is going to send someone around to clean my sink as well, I'm not in the slightest bit concerned about selecting the S24+ equivalent next year.

[@freshtowels3917]

Just experiment with the exynos chips on your cjepaer devices samsung. Selling flagships phones is already an uphill battle for samsung or any android manufacturer as that space is monopolized by the iphone.

[@stephaniecolbert3326]

I live in the US and I have an a71, s21 plus and s23 Ultra and each work perfectly still.. the battery life is amazing on them all with no overheating. Ive been watching videos, I was surprised reading many comments that they gave different phones based on where you live. 😲

[@moswanedev]

The US gets Snapdragon. It's the rest of us that suffer.

[@AgentX-dh3lf]

I have one of my Exynox phones die because of cpu failure 😢

[@casuarius6576]

Mine never die, because I've high end Exynos chipsets.

[@pntx155]

I don't see any coverage about the Samsung Semiconductor Manufacture Plant. I thought the Samsung Manufacturing process was also problematic, because some SD Gen 1 that was manufactured by Samsung got worse efficiency than the one that was manufactured by TSMC

[@lol-yz2kd]

The worst chipset ever made goes to exynos

[@casuarius6576]

goes to Mediatek and Qualcomm.

[@PME16]

Im using s20 fe 4g with exynos 990 and to be honest it hasnt slown down actually its performing better now in day to day than when i bought it,mainly because of OS. Even the camera is better and fingerprint faster.

[@astroidexadam5976]

But still overheats even when using apps like KZbin, Reddit or Twitter sometimes I have the same phone with the same SoC, I wish I had bought the 5G version instead

[@Rayan567.]

Samsung with Snapdragon and Exynos is like Huawei with EMUI and HarmonyOS unfortunately...

[@obuzoru6225]

Simply the snapdragon 8 gen 3 is far powerful than Exynos 2400 that's why they are only putting gen 3 in ultra version people should just not buy this shit Exynos

[@dbjungle]

The Exynos chips are more than good enough for daily use. The only problem here is the illusion of choice since Snapdragon is offered in some markets, but not others. I have been using Tensor Pixels for a couple years now and I don't find myself missing Qualcomm. Google passed the Qualcomm tax savings onto the consumer. It's all a matter of perspective.

[@wildyato3737]

0:53 I didn't own any Samsung phones..but it hurts when you have everything good except processeor😢

[@ENGAM]

Owner of Samsung Galaxy Alpha Exynos 5430 (2014) "beta tester idoT"... That thing was a mess and since then i never bought a Samsung phone again. Battery lasted couple of hours, performance was meh at best, there was lagging and throttling and a lot of heat, wifi connection and calls abysmal.

[@casuarius6576]

Lol, you got a low-end device for the time you bought it, that chipset wasn't supposedly to perform any better compared to the Galaxy S5 Exynos or the Note 4. Try the S21FE Exynos

[@PLACESNONDESCRIPT]

Samsung foundry is the mess ,,they shud let tsmc fabricate thr chips ,,samsung is same culprit making google tensor core cpu ,,which is hotter and slower ,,

[@nishatanwar7205]

The fact that Samsung doesn’t mention upfront which processor S24 is using on the official launch website. It is unethical to sell the same product with different chipsets in different countries. Does Samsung think they can play Indian users like this.

[@Dovarcraft]

I'll never get a phone again that has exynos until they cost less or perform the same as qualcom ones

[@casuarius6576]

Exynos perform better than Qualcomm, so don't excuses.

[@Dovarcraft]

@@casuarius6576 did you not watch the video?

[@casuarius6576]

yes, and it's invalid since Exynos in the latest generations have been better.@@Dovarcraft

[@lesleyhaan116]

@@casuarius6576 have been better I thought it never was bad and always better then Apples a bionic and Qualcomm snapdragon

[@jakobn2913]

I switched from the S20 FE with the Exynos 990 to the S 22 base model with the Exynos 2200. The 2200 doesn't get warm as fast the 990 and is stronger. The 8 Gen 1 is not more efficient, so I can live with it, currently. But I would like to have a Snapdragon in my next phone (all phones I ever used had either MediaTek or Samsung-Chips).

[@MU-gp7vf]

Are you still using it? I'm planning on buying one soon

[@jakobn2913]

@@MU-gp7vf wich one, the S 20 FE or the S 22 ?

[@MU-gp7vf]

@@jakobn2913 s22

[@mephistophelesgg7963]

@@MU-gp7vf don't buy s22, it's garbage

[@MU-gp7vf]

@mephistophelesgg7963 i did buy it, it was such a piece of crap, sold immediately with a 25% loss, then bought note 20 ultra...and its amazing..

[@robwightman6357]

Always had exynos never had a problem saying that I've never used Snapdragon so I don't know what I'm missing 🤷🏼

[@highestpointmedia4359]

You are being cheated then.

[@avnertouitou3778]

Exynos 2400 will have 4 times more computer units found in the exynos 2200 but knowing Samsung it will be rubbish

[@pabantca]

What a great video that gives a comprehensive view on Exynos and its history so far!

[@memo6x9]

I'm so disappointed, why isn't Samsung putting an S-Pen slot in the smaller S24 line-ups?❓? We are 2023 and still there's no successor of the smaller Galaxy Note 10 with a built-in S-Pen slot ⚠️ 😭

[@sheshan88]

I used Exynos in my S8 and now in S21 FE, im not buying anything that has Exynos in the future... Still im a Samsung Fanboy and will buy Samsung phones in the future but not with Exynos in it😊.

[@yajiv5383]

I am using samsung s21fe which has exynos 2100.. It's not bad as most youtube gurus complain.. It's smooth and fast, never lagged. I dont play games, so nothing muchh to complain about the heat..

[@bobbyroberts2566]

If Samsung won't fix overheating and inefficiency issues with E2400, then their SoC will be done for good. No one will ever touch the Samsung flagship with Exynos ever again.

[@casuarius6576]

That's the process node quality.

[@bobbyroberts2566]

@@casuarius6576 we can't count out the design error as Exynos has not been tested on TSMC manufacturing process

[@casuarius6576]

@@bobbyroberts2566 Let's see when the tests came.

[@REPOMAN24722]

That is not the worst part, Samsung and Apple along with Pixels use LI-ion batteries that are crap, look for Li-Po which are found in Oppo and their sub brands, Motorola, Xiaomi ect, faster charge and longer cycles.

[@gryph-jn7bp]

some people need to chill lol, if you don't want exynos then just grab s23. Also some with s23 already bitching about s24 using exynos, these people must be rich lol changing phone every single year 💀 . If it turn out to be shit then shit on it after it launched, maybe they improve who know. People act like it's a big problem. Samsung not dumb, if they receive negative reviews from exynos 2400 then maybe s25 will use back snapdragon🤷

[@AlphaCygni]

The reason to hate exynos is that you pay the very same price you'd pay for a similar flagship phone equipped with qualcomm soc and get inferior experience, both in terms of battery consumption and 3d performance and this isn't fair.

[@casuarius6576]

Exynos isn't inferior anymore.

[@wildyato3737]

Can't we just report at Court to stop Samsung making chipsets..it's not improving..😅

[@AGoogleUser-e7v]

What I didn't know XDA has its own yt channel😅

[@harryvlogs7833]

Nah the upcoming exynos 2400 is looking very promising especially with Samsung new 3nm which is more advanced than tsmc

[@parshakamarsh]

They always used to say that before, I think I'll take that one with a pinch of salt

[@harryvlogs7833]

@parshakamarsh no they didn't This is a new process and Samsung never said that. They did say there chips were better but not the manufacturing process

[@parshakamarsh]

@@harryvlogs7833 I was talking about the chips not the manufacturing process, but regarding that, I'll be waiting for the real life results from it before I draw any conclusions. Too many false dawns in the past

[@harryvlogs7833]

@parshakamarsh oh well I was talking about the manufacturing process

[@parshakamarsh]

@@harryvlogs7833 let's hope that it's not as poor as their 4nm process then

[@HappyPurpleNoob]

It's region based. US, Canada, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong all have QS in S24 series.

[@kai84m]

8 Gen 2 of the S23U is such a great SoC. The Exynos 2200 last year was horseshit - laggy, buggy and inefficient. If Samsung really brings back their crappy Exynos SoC's in Europe i will probably wait for Pixel 9 with Tensor based on TSMC Node.

[@casuarius6576]

Exynos is quality and their competition is garbage.

[@Freedom-of-Thought]

Tensors are strongly stick to Samsung chip, the chance for TSMC Tensors is nearly none. If you want TSMC chip, just buy iPhone series or S23 series.

[@casuarius6576]

And you remember the Qualcomm 810/820 disaster made by TSMC, until they switched to Samsung foundry with the Qualcomm 835 and 845 and they gained better performance and efficiency, Samsung node may have fall down because they rushed to get the latest node even if their yield quality were low resulting in the issues mentioned in the comment above, but they can catch up again.@@Freedom-of-Thought

[@ItzzchMps]

Nowadays a 1% or 2 % lower in processing doesn't really make a difference and Nobody will notice it, but to make 2 versions of the same phone for the same price but for different regions is a shitty thing to do from Samsung, however I don't mind the exynos that much my Note 10plus runs perfectly with it and I don't have any performing related problems

[@dzgamer342]

10% to 20% performance difference isn't an exaggeration man its a whole different phone

[@casuarius6576]

Exynos leads it.

[@cwfqayin]

My A33 with Exynos 1280 is excellent in everything except, the shitty modem and WIFI. Whatever related to communication on this phone suck. WIFI drop-off, low cellular signal etc.

[@a-terrible-fate532]

I would cry if they put exynos chips in the s24 ultra phones for the US market

[@casuarius6576]

I would cry if most get the Qualcomm chipset.

[@kiryuukazuma04]

Exynos used to be ahead of the game by having 8 cores and the speed is on par with the snapdragon but now that the snapdragon has step up their game by having an 8 cores as well, they are now leading the race because their chips have always been faster.

[@modestman6753]

Exynos will have 10 cores

[@mephistophelesgg7963]

@@modestman6753 it can have 500 cores, it will still be a garbage

[@rdnax92]

...Was never disappointed by the Exynos 2200 in the S22U and on the other side I was really underwhealmed by the 8G2 in S23U... The differences between the two in everyday performance and battery were, in my hands, almost nothing! Since Samsung uses standard cores (E2100) this issue seems quite overblown...

[@mythydamashii9978]

Lol definitely do not blame Snapdragon for this

[@Wyald]

and Pixel has been using this stuff and its a thing hindering google pixel to grow even larger

[@ashishpatel350]

I have no problem if it was just as good as qcoms soc.... If they want to use exynos they should just creat a new phone line. Like in the fe phones

[@thepro7404]

Just compare a snapdragon 835 and a exynos 9610.Both chips gain similar scores and similar gaming performance,but the exynos has more standby battery drain.The snapdragon lasts for a week or more when its in standby and the exynos barely gets 2-3 days.The snapdragon beats the exynos even when it has a smaller battery.