Why Does Russia insist on still using Armored Trains?

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@Simplehistory
@Simplehistory 9 ай бұрын
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@Gosh..
@Gosh.. 9 ай бұрын
Ok
@brendenpiper6565
@brendenpiper6565 9 ай бұрын
One of the best history channels
@mutiny_on_the_bounty
@mutiny_on_the_bounty 9 ай бұрын
At least you admitted Russia is a Superpower.
@thefrenchbaguette919
@thefrenchbaguette919 9 ай бұрын
@@mutiny_on_the_bounty it's not
@mutiny_on_the_bounty
@mutiny_on_the_bounty 9 ай бұрын
@@thefrenchbaguette919 Actually it is. Thanks to them the world is now multipolar again. Africa is also doing it's part. Now we will have to "compete" once again. #Capitalism Edit- spelling
@FSGTACHANKA
@FSGTACHANKA 9 ай бұрын
The enemy has been reinforced with a behemoth
@NightStalker_MJ
@NightStalker_MJ 9 ай бұрын
Germany: A tank hunter kit is available near your location……. A flame trooper kit is available near your location, a sentry kit is available near your location sentry SMG is available near your location…….. a trench raider kit is available near your location
@yeetysniffthesecond8624
@yeetysniffthesecond8624 9 ай бұрын
We have lost objective apples
@scotthugh3283
@scotthugh3283 9 ай бұрын
We have lost objective butter
@unclescouty2787
@unclescouty2787 9 ай бұрын
*insert armored train horn*
@Poland-br9mg
@Poland-br9mg 9 ай бұрын
So true
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 9 ай бұрын
Armored Trains will always still be one of the coolest machines of war. Russian command to their soldiers: "We have been reinforced with an Armored Train."
@nikolaideianov5092
@nikolaideianov5092 9 ай бұрын
And some of the easyest to deal with (it can only go on tracks very easy to ambush)
@CheepChirp
@CheepChirp 9 ай бұрын
It’s fitting bc the war is basically bf1 😭
@nikolaideianov5092
@nikolaideianov5092 9 ай бұрын
@@CheepChirp we only need some land battleships and bi - tri planes and there wont be a diffrence
@uhagi6720
@uhagi6720 9 ай бұрын
@@nikolaideianov5092 The main problem with destroying the tracks is that you may NEED the tracks in order to transport supplies to certain areas. If you take them out, you potentially make transportation of your own logistics impossible.
@tancredbey606
@tancredbey606 9 ай бұрын
Praise the Sultan! 🇹🇷
@paganhorde4463
@paganhorde4463 9 ай бұрын
Being Canadian, I can tell you that maintaining road with intense winter / spring melts is a nightmare of a job. With the sheer size of Russia and the difficult terrain, building an American like truck and road systems must be next to impossible. I can absolutely see a large train infrastructure instead... and it's logical use in a conflict
@Fergusnoot
@Fergusnoot 9 ай бұрын
The only issue is that they should use civilian trains instead. Armored trains are much more costly to build and crumble easily under attacks from drones, RPGs, etc. It's more about cost versus benefit than trucks versus trains. Also, their winter isn't as intense and potholes aren't the biggest issue when explosions are going off around you. I mean, dirt roads exist.
@Astorath_the_Grim
@Astorath_the_Grim 9 ай бұрын
You're using your brain and being logical. This is about anti Russian propaganda.
@CrimZaza
@CrimZaza 9 ай бұрын
@@Fergusnoot You cant say which winter is more intense because both Canada and Russia have southern regions and northern regions. Also, trust me in russia dirt roads exist and well they are a problem because of Rasputitsa and also rail is a lot more efficient to transport logistics I mean seriously every army still uses rail...
@donaldtrumplover2254
@donaldtrumplover2254 9 ай бұрын
Cars aren’t as important as most people think, bikes and trains are enough to get anywhere you need if your infrastructure is built for it. 
@GusCraft460
@GusCraft460 9 ай бұрын
Rails are just a different type of road.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 9 ай бұрын
I think Armored Trains are just a whole other level of cool. I know they are rather outdated for modern warfare, but some weapons are timeless.
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx 9 ай бұрын
Multiple sectioned routes, the anti air defenses they have, in a scenario that Russia is fighting a war on their territory where these can be used, I can’t see them facing many issues at all
@DIREWOLFx75
@DIREWOLFx75 9 ай бұрын
"I know they are rather outdated for modern warfare" Are they? Why? There's plenty of duties that needs doing that they're good for.
@The_Guys_Videos
@The_Guys_Videos 9 ай бұрын
@@DIREWOLFx75well someone puts something on the rail? Yeah it’s getting derailed.
@DIREWOLFx75
@DIREWOLFx75 9 ай бұрын
@@The_Guys_Videos "Yeah it’s getting derailed." You're not going to be driving an armored train around at full speed, you're also going to have plenty good enough sensors tracking the rails ahead AND beside it for several hundred meters specifically to detect such attempts. Also, since there's no requirements for speed or perfect economy for such a train, you WILL include "brushes", dunno the correct English word, but it's basically just a relatively simple contraption ahead of the first wheels that sweeps away anything on the tracks before the train can drive over it. There's also the fact that the combination of the much greater weight of the armored train than a regular one and the slower speed, that if there's STILL anything on the tracks, it's going to get squashed before it can affect the train much. So no, it isn't. And BTW FYI, i'm the first person in my family for 4 generations to NOT work on railroads... So, i'm kinda VERY used to railroad stuff.
@smh9902
@smh9902 9 ай бұрын
If you're going to move stuff by rail, and you already have armored trains, you may as well use them. Makes sense to me.
@erickfromthegrave
@erickfromthegrave 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes what looks cooler is more important than what's practical
@CMGThePerson
@CMGThePerson 9 ай бұрын
I mean, I guess it's needed as Zelensky is cooler than Putin
@Dornana
@Dornana 9 ай бұрын
​@@CMGThePersonI disagree
@mikasammallahti1272
@mikasammallahti1272 9 ай бұрын
​@@CMGThePersonWay cooler😁
@PrinceZathoxr
@PrinceZathoxr 9 ай бұрын
@@Dornana Why? Prigozhin was cooler than zelensky but putin is just sitting in a room ordering men to die for almost no reason.
@MasterMind75427
@MasterMind75427 9 ай бұрын
​@@CMGThePersonZelensky is a madman
@brendenpiper6565
@brendenpiper6565 9 ай бұрын
I had the chance to see some at a museum they are really cool
@MagnumLoadedTractor
@MagnumLoadedTractor 9 ай бұрын
There is one in Bosnia
@comradeurod9805
@comradeurod9805 9 ай бұрын
​@@MagnumLoadedTractorBosnia stronk 💪🇧🇦
@thatoneblueguy
@thatoneblueguy 9 ай бұрын
cool but impractical
@user-rl8hf8kt1r
@user-rl8hf8kt1r 8 ай бұрын
​@@thatoneblueguy when you already have them and use them behind friendly lines.......why not use them
@kishascape
@kishascape 4 ай бұрын
Armored trains are still made and used today in Africa countries.
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx 9 ай бұрын
The Russian Ministry Of Defense knows Battlefield 1 is the best Battlefield.
@mvenom1974
@mvenom1974 7 ай бұрын
indeed
@Dragonicus375
@Dragonicus375 9 ай бұрын
Bf1 announcer: The Enemy is being reinforce with an Armored Train. *Train whistle*
@jayjay53313
@jayjay53313 9 ай бұрын
Metro Exodus shows why armored trains are useful and reliable. After nuclear fallout, they still work and serve
@prokayore5074
@prokayore5074 9 ай бұрын
oh are we having a nuclear fallout rn ? didnt know
@jayjay53313
@jayjay53313 9 ай бұрын
@@prokayore5074 not yet but in case there is, these trains will still operate.
@TemplarBlack.
@TemplarBlack. 9 ай бұрын
The problem is that trains rely on railroads to work properly. Those can be quite fragile and i'm amazed how it's still almost intact in metro exodus.
@shyguydontknowwhy
@shyguydontknowwhy 9 ай бұрын
Trains do seem like they would be old tech that could be an easy fall back. Flying is really just a luxury that can be easily countered (Afghanistan before and Ukraine now) and ATVs seem less reliable than a train. If anything a train is too reliable (can only follow a track). Edit: Also the secret Metro 2 line confirmed in video at 4:10
@prokayore5074
@prokayore5074 9 ай бұрын
@@TemplarBlack. in the game they did fix a lot of the rails
@RoulicisThe
@RoulicisThe 9 ай бұрын
Considering Russian's logistic trucks have been constantly targetted by partisan ambushes... Bringing armored trains back to service again does make sense. Compared to disabling a truck, neutralising an armored train requires A LOT more firepower than what your typical infiltrator can carry with him. They're a lot easier to target from the sky though, so it's not an impervious solution
@mc75cruiser92
@mc75cruiser92 9 ай бұрын
honestly i would believe it is in-fact harder to target from the sky, given that a single armored train (depicted here for example) is about 1 train and 9 carts in length, while a complete logistics lane can be hundreds of trucks going on a large, open road.
@Ulfbhert9000
@Ulfbhert9000 9 ай бұрын
Depends on the train whats stopping the mechanics from putting an surface to air missile or manpads on it?
@The_Meat_Man69
@The_Meat_Man69 9 ай бұрын
Another issue though is that someone can sabotage the tracks and stop/derail the train
@TiocfaidhArLa34
@TiocfaidhArLa34 9 ай бұрын
just break the tracks beforehand and leave. it will derail itself spectacularly.
@iplaygames8090
@iplaygames8090 9 ай бұрын
@@Ulfbhert9000 the supply requisition officer having an aneurysm.
@millsyinnz
@millsyinnz 9 ай бұрын
The Russo-Ukrainian war seems to have become a hot combination of modern, Cold War and WW1/2 technology and tactics.
@Kaiser_Karl
@Kaiser_Karl 9 ай бұрын
Noone has been at a large scale war for a long time yet, so its natural theyre gonna use older tactics to see what works.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 9 ай бұрын
if your not using it and it could work its a waste.
@Kaiser_Karl
@Kaiser_Karl 9 ай бұрын
@@JeanLucCaptain If it ain't broke don't fix it
@Ttran778
@Ttran778 9 ай бұрын
If you compare a locomotive train engine against something like the T62 battle tank or the BMP, the train is staggeringly simple to maintain and operate. Considering that the majority of the Russian armed forces are actually from rural backgrounds with minimal mechanicsl training, it wouldn't be hard to mass-train people for emergency maintenance or repairs. Its own weird little advantage, I suppose.
@user-ym7ev3xc5y
@user-ym7ev3xc5y 9 ай бұрын
I served in Russian military (before the war began) and I can confirm that you are saying is mostly true. It is been a main strategical doctrine in Russian forces that weaponry and vehicles are specifically had been designed from soviet times to modern to be cheap, simple and with decent sturdiness. Russian military equipment usually not really comfortable to use nor it is known for being on a scientifically edge, but it is VERY (and I mean it) easy to maintain in every environment with some wires and basic instruments (I was radio-telegraphic specialists). And it’s cheap too. So yes, it is counter-intuitive advantage of some sort - downshifting arms for the sake of sustainability and simplicity
@longshotmaster
@longshotmaster 8 ай бұрын
Haha mass train- I’ll let myself out
@antoniothegunexpert5955
@antoniothegunexpert5955 9 ай бұрын
Armored trains are just cool af
@psyxypher3881
@psyxypher3881 9 ай бұрын
So, without watching the video, I'm gonna make a few educated guesses: -Because rail lines are vital to any war effort. -Because blowing up rail lines is a common communist tactic and the former Soviet Union knows to guard against it. -Russia is like 80% backwater wilderness and shipping things from point A to point B is needed for the economy to function. -It looks damn cool.
@smh9902
@smh9902 9 ай бұрын
If you're going to move stuff by rail, and you already have armored trains, you may as well use them. Makes sense to me.
@jukebox_heroperson3994
@jukebox_heroperson3994 9 ай бұрын
Russia already has railway troops anyway
@casekocsk
@casekocsk 9 ай бұрын
But how you can guard a rail stretched as far as thousand of kilometers? How fast can they repair a destroyed rail track?
@DonVetto-vx9dd
@DonVetto-vx9dd 9 ай бұрын
​​@@casekocskyes they can. They have the men and equipments for that. It is unimaginable for other countries, but not for Russia.
@LincolnJohnson-dq5su
@LincolnJohnson-dq5su 9 ай бұрын
@@casekocsk its more of a stretched out response team that tends to use it as a defense line with the army
@thattallindividual
@thattallindividual 9 ай бұрын
fun fact: the armored train in the thumbnail is the Zaamurets, it is also the armored train behemoth in Battlefield 1.
@HanzOrHans
@HanzOrHans 4 ай бұрын
The Zaamurets is also a russian made train. nice detail.
@nood1le
@nood1le 2 ай бұрын
So freaking cool
@GUMMRUCHK
@GUMMRUCHK 9 ай бұрын
Trains are completely superior to using aircraft for transport, assuming you don't need to cross an ocean for said transport.
@planderlinde1969
@planderlinde1969 9 ай бұрын
And assuming the tracks are not compromise and are secure behind friendly lines.
@GUMMRUCHK
@GUMMRUCHK 9 ай бұрын
@@planderlinde1969 The risk of enemy action attacking your logistics is just an inherent risk to having any logistics system. - Use a ship and the enemy might sink it with submarines - Use a trains and the enemy might use partisans or long range missiles strikes to blow up tracks/trains. - Use planes and the enemy might find a way to shoot them down. This is just a risk you must live with and do your best to mitigate.
@GUMMRUCHK
@GUMMRUCHK 9 ай бұрын
Ukrainians have not shown much of an ability to stop the Russians from supplying their troops on the front so I suspect the Russian supply lines are fairly secure. All I see the Ukrainians do behind the lines is blow up random office buildings rather than train tracks or anything actually useful.
@commisaryarreck3974
@commisaryarreck3974 9 ай бұрын
​@@planderlinde1969 Tracks are easily repaired Roads...roads are awful for long term logistics with heavy snow and mud
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 9 ай бұрын
WWI proved that French trucks defeated German trains.
@perunapelaaja_1772
@perunapelaaja_1772 9 ай бұрын
"Why Does Russia insist on still using Armored Trains?" "Because they look real fucking cool that's why"
@ponycentaur1456
@ponycentaur1456 9 ай бұрын
i can see the importance of using armored trains on a logistical standpoint, bringing sups in from long distances as it would be otherwise costly and dangerous to use long colums. Not to mention every country still uses trains to transport supplies and goods for long ranges via train .
@donaldtrumplover2254
@donaldtrumplover2254 9 ай бұрын
The problem is the tracks. You take those out and that thing is no longer a train, it is a glorified metal box with an engine.
@angrymaninapandamask6432
@angrymaninapandamask6432 9 ай бұрын
​@@donaldtrumplover2254you can fix tracks with ease
@donaldtrumplover2254
@donaldtrumplover2254 9 ай бұрын
@@angrymaninapandamask6432 not when your getting shot at by artillery with a possibly derailed train next to you
@ponycentaur1456
@ponycentaur1456 9 ай бұрын
thus why i said its great for logistics, not so much front line. Besides, when you need mas supplies, trains are far easier to deal with logistically than truck collumbs. And air supperiority . @@donaldtrumplover2254
@recoil53
@recoil53 9 ай бұрын
@@angrymaninapandamask6432 Not bridges or embankments. And outside the Warsaw Pact the tracks are a different gauge. More insidious is when a rail is sabotaged but looks fine. Then the train derails and you lose all engine and all the cars. Break the tracks in several places and there is the problem of getting to and finding all the places to repair.
@Doc829
@Doc829 9 ай бұрын
"I mean, if it works it works." -Putin 2023
@ven7165
@ven7165 9 ай бұрын
Last I heard Russia's military logistics relied heavily on trains, and when the war in Ukraine began they had trouble because the railroads were damaged or insufficient or something. So with that info it'd make sense to have trains that can defend themselves.
@darnit1944
@darnit1944 9 ай бұрын
It's not that simple. The saboteurs always goes for the tracks, not for the train itself. They dont have to destroy anything either. They just need to make delays, and thus the logistics becomes very costly and difficult to sustain.
@manofmann8901
@manofmann8901 9 ай бұрын
​@@darnit1944and if they are able to bait the train to somewhere slightly remote and destroy tracks on either side of it then a viable armoured train has just turned into nothing more than a pillbox sat in the open which can be hit by air forces
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 9 ай бұрын
tell me the last time you went to Europe and tried to get literally ANYWHERE not on train tracks?
@pilotman9819
@pilotman9819 9 ай бұрын
@@manofmann8901 What air forces though?
@mbr5742
@mbr5742 7 ай бұрын
​@@manofmann8901What prevents anyone from putting a Pantsir AA system in the train? And maybe use that systems feature to link with an SA 400 to actually BAIT the air attack?
@janklepal768
@janklepal768 9 ай бұрын
Also the Czechoslovak Legionnaires, who traveled in armored trains, traversed the entire Trans-Siberian Railway from Petrograd to Vladivostok
@isaacanderson6806
@isaacanderson6806 9 ай бұрын
And managed to defeat part of the Soviet Navy in the process; half way between Moscow & Vladivostok!
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 9 ай бұрын
Zamurets crossed the entire length of Russia and survived 20 years of hard use only to end up disappearing in Japanese hands in 1930's.
@hogridaaaaaaaaa9613
@hogridaaaaaaaaa9613 9 ай бұрын
The enemy is being reinforced with an armored train
@johndobson8199
@johndobson8199 9 ай бұрын
The enemy has been reinforced with an armoured train
@NightStalker_MJ
@NightStalker_MJ 9 ай бұрын
….. A tank hunter kit is available near your location
@ugandantsar1887
@ugandantsar1887 9 ай бұрын
As long as partisan warfare exist use of armored trains is practical.
@vojnanaoruzanja9901
@vojnanaoruzanja9901 9 ай бұрын
Well, makes sense, but I would also use UAV with them
@jimmothy3012
@jimmothy3012 9 ай бұрын
any insurgent could just brake the tracks making an armored train pointless
@uknownclient6105
@uknownclient6105 9 ай бұрын
​@@jimmothy3012not exacly today reparing tracks is quite easyand can be quickly repaired
@jimmothy3012
@jimmothy3012 9 ай бұрын
@@uknownclient6105 im not talking about blowing up tracks to stop strategic movement of trains, its saying it would be quite easy to derail one of them completing preventing its use
@donaldtrumplover2254
@donaldtrumplover2254 9 ай бұрын
A partisan would never be going for the train itself anyway. If the point is to hurt logistics than causing a derailment is much better.
@smh9902
@smh9902 9 ай бұрын
If you're going to move stuff by rail, and you already have armored trains, you may as well use them. Makes sense to me.
@cristhianramirez6939
@cristhianramirez6939 9 ай бұрын
Armored trains are badass, dont care if they are obsolete
@Redneck2393
@Redneck2393 7 ай бұрын
Obviously armored trains don't stand a chance in offensive operations or open battle, but they still have logistical value and can still provide plenty of mobile firepower for defensive use or for patrolling and small hit-and-run attacks. Plus they just look awesome, the Amur and Yenisei look pretty cool IMO.
@dylanbilson4271
@dylanbilson4271 9 ай бұрын
Remember that old flash game called Rails of War? Back when armored trains are still cool? Good times.
@johnconner9149
@johnconner9149 9 ай бұрын
I used to play it all the time as a kid!
@dotmbarricade3424
@dotmbarricade3424 9 ай бұрын
I wish we got more games based on Armoured trains
@johnconner9149
@johnconner9149 9 ай бұрын
@@dotmbarricade3424 Agreed.
@thomasawl
@thomasawl 9 ай бұрын
If theres one thing history channels can’t get right, its animating armoured trains.
@Gamerguy_69420
@Gamerguy_69420 9 ай бұрын
Are u an armored train animation expert or something?
@DescendingVelocity
@DescendingVelocity 9 ай бұрын
So make your own ten minute animated armored train video and drop it in the comments soy boy
@thegoozle5896
@thegoozle5896 9 ай бұрын
fr, like some parts they have driving rods on cars that dont have engines, and some parts the rods dont move at all whilst not even supposed to be there?
@koharumi1
@koharumi1 9 ай бұрын
How? Please explain?
@jji7667
@jji7667 9 ай бұрын
LOL so whatever you uploaded on your channel is accurate animation ?
@Newdivide
@Newdivide 9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Armoured train from Battlefield 1
@matthew8153
@matthew8153 9 ай бұрын
Medal of Honor: Frontline
@GuildOfCalamity
@GuildOfCalamity 9 ай бұрын
Just found this channel and I love it. Great animation and production quality, bravo!
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 9 ай бұрын
A man brave enough to bring a train to a tank fight is someone you should fear. And old weapons are not always useless
@erick1685
@erick1685 9 ай бұрын
It's not about bravery, it's necessity. Russia needs to rely on equipment that belongs more to a WWII museum than the frontlines. The only thing that truly upsets me is the fact that the russian youth is being used as cannon fodder to satisfy the ego of an imbecile.
@birdick1307
@birdick1307 9 ай бұрын
@@erick1685 Then vote Trump so a peace deal can finally be made.
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 9 ай бұрын
​@@birdick1307& support for Russia to join pack with Israel, EU & the BRICS without NATO
@DrrZed
@DrrZed 9 ай бұрын
>And old weapons are not always useless *KMS Bismark hated that.*
@tomizatko3138
@tomizatko3138 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@tron6121yes BRICS should dissolve!
@RandomTrinidadian
@RandomTrinidadian 9 ай бұрын
"Russia has leaned into technology from the past" And look how well that working out for them
@Astorath_the_Grim
@Astorath_the_Grim 9 ай бұрын
And so is Ukarine.
@slopeisdope2293
@slopeisdope2293 9 ай бұрын
Russia is winning cope daily
@8A8ADave
@8A8ADave 9 ай бұрын
How’s Ukraine’s demographics looking bud?
@bullmoosevelt4495
@bullmoosevelt4495 9 ай бұрын
Russia has always been at a technological disadvantage when it came to most conflicts. It’s a matter of brute force and time that decides their victory. And judging by the state of Ukraine at this point, it’s still working out for them.
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 9 ай бұрын
​@@bullmoosevelt4495 Yeah, Russia will have the last laugh against Ukraine. To me as an American, I find it shameful for my nation to be a part of a proxy war.
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 9 ай бұрын
If only they spent more money armouring Private Jets instead
@real8310
@real8310 9 ай бұрын
Prigozshin was killed by Russia lol
@chickenmann9934
@chickenmann9934 9 ай бұрын
@@real8310 was killed by Putin*
@ZackShark1
@ZackShark1 9 ай бұрын
Yeah the guy that was...helping them@@real8310
@stetson0075
@stetson0075 9 ай бұрын
But if they armored their private jets, how would Putin have been able to assassinate pretty much all of Wagner's top people?
@Scallywag2008
@Scallywag2008 9 ай бұрын
He got his ammo
@blitzkrieg2928
@blitzkrieg2928 9 ай бұрын
Armored trains : You thought we were out ? Think again Mosin Nagant : Oh my sweet summer child
@aiunit2662
@aiunit2662 9 ай бұрын
6:37 nice little nod to the battlefield map, lowkey one of my favorite maps in that game, i would hop in the little windmill lookin things with a sniper or hop in the machine gun nests at the capture point with the huge trenchline you would have to defend.
@sibirjak.
@sibirjak. 9 ай бұрын
why is the czechoslovak armored train Orlík used by the soviets in the video in time 7:05 ? it was only used by the soviets with the name "Lenin", only the czechoslovaks used it under the name "Orlík"
@crimson6391
@crimson6391 9 ай бұрын
armored trains will always be cool no matter what war they fight nor how useful they are its just unique amd badass seeing it roll and proceed to just f up anyone in its path and the amount of vriety per train is also just makes it more beautiful as a weapon of war.
@longlivetheempire1581
@longlivetheempire1581 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I have been looking into armored trains recently. Thank you so much for making a video about them. Love your channel.
@deadponic117
@deadponic117 9 ай бұрын
well, as Jack Wade from Goldeneye explains: "[it's that] armored stuff they used to run around the country so we couldn't target them" it would seem logical that they would use trains to transport materials needed to build ballistic or nuclear weaponry, that and a train can go faster, can carry more cargo, and it can be disguised as a civilian vehicle so an enemy will think twice before inflicting civilian casualties.
@skootmeister3994
@skootmeister3994 9 ай бұрын
As I recall Lazerpig saying in a couple of his vids. “The only thing running properly in their logistics train is the train.”
@DIREWOLFx75
@DIREWOLFx75 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, because delivering up to 70 thousand artillery shells on targets in a day says sooo much "nonfuntional logistics"? When USA invaded Iraq, they used 60 thousand artillery shells during the whole campaign. And to do that, they had to spend months building up. Russia fires over 20 thousand per day on a casual basis and far more when required. And while EU and Nato are running out of shells and missiles and literally EVERYTHING? Russia keeps producing magnitudes more than EU and Nato COMBINED. And they are STILL RAMPING UP. And Russia is still not hitting a budget deficit to pay for it. Do you understand that Russia has used more cruise missiles against Ukraine than EU and Nato combined has ever built? Or that Russia has used more SAMs than at minimum twice the numbers that EU and Nato together has ever built? Can you grasp that the reason HIMARS was supposed to be such a wunderwaffen, was because western airdefences CANNOT SHOOT THE ROCKETS DOWN. Meanwhile, Russian airdefences are shooting down 80-100% of them. Not to mention the fact that Nato would have run out of SAMs to shoot them down with in days if they ever tried. Have you checked what actual Russian soldier's supply situation is? They're comfy and wellfed. Ukraine soldiers, are NOT. Not a single Russian unit have run out of supplies since start of conflict. While there's possibly not a single Ukraine brigade left that hasn't run out of something, or outright even EVERYTHING at least once. It's amazing how people seem to know nothing about Russia... It's not even secrets and yet even the very basic knowledge of how Russia inherited and improved the mathematically based approach to war that USSR developed. And the fact that this approach takes into account expected enemy actions to the levels of logistics required. Maybe you should just realise that Piggy doesn't know what he's blabbering about?
@izumishion6267
@izumishion6267 9 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Russia is still using armored trains. As powerful as they are, since they can only follow the tracks laid down for them, are are so predictable.
@justeunfan3364
@justeunfan3364 9 ай бұрын
It can be practical to avoid some kind of ambush while still in Russia, a commando passing true the frontier may not have enought equipment to blow a track. Or when moving in other countries it protect the load from attacks directed at the train himself, if the enemy doesn't want to blow its how rails and only attack the trains. Or in case air attack miss you are protected from shrapnels. It can also be a huge moral booster, if a soldier come back after days of fighting in terrible conditions seeing a giant and strong looking chunk of steel on rail can give some motivations/patriotism. Or its just a common case of "we have too much money / need a project to lauder governements founds / I saw it in a movie once and it looked cool, lets build it and then we'll figure out how to use it".
@endertales2109
@endertales2109 9 ай бұрын
powerful ? they are having trouble invading a small country their tactic are outdated
@OlafScholzSPD
@OlafScholzSPD 9 ай бұрын
The pracital thing is, that they have these trains. Its so practical, cause it fits the style of the 40-60 years old tanks 😅
@user-kr7yh8vw9m
@user-kr7yh8vw9m 9 ай бұрын
Armored trains,Russia's assault weapons,rail equivalent of its AK-47. Some things never change
@TheBigExclusive
@TheBigExclusive 9 ай бұрын
If you don't blow the tracks, then the attackers options are limited since the train is so heavily armored.
@Jason-fm4my
@Jason-fm4my 9 ай бұрын
Not only is Russia not the only current AT operator they aren't even very modern in comparison to other recent operators. India uses some armored trains following an attack by guerillas in 2010. Apparently Columbia also uses tons of armored cars to protect miners going into FARC held territory. They use 5 very modern GE AC4400CW locomotives and 8 GE B36-7 engines with armor fitting done by ISBI Armoring and Armor International. They came under ambush as recently as 2009. North Korea likely operates armored trains to transport goods and for transporting the Kim family. Sudan prior to their recent civil war, likely used an annual armored train with cavalry escort to transport supplies to it's garrison in South Sudan. specifications per kindle "Armoured Trains: An Illustrated Encyclopedia 1825-2016" by Paul Malmassari
@dotmbarricade3424
@dotmbarricade3424 9 ай бұрын
Also wasn't there a plan announced a year ago,that us will be using some kind of Armoured train.
@randomexcessmemories4452
@randomexcessmemories4452 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could do a video covering my personal favorite armored train, the Krajina Express? Used during the wars in Croatia and Bosnia from 1991-95, it had a bunch of weapons added and subtracted over the years; everything from cannons to mortars to rocket pods to the turret of a tank destroyer and even anti tank missiles!
@dotmbarricade3424
@dotmbarricade3424 9 ай бұрын
That was dope imo. Armoured trains are very underrated. I wish they got more attention. I couldn't even find someone to talk about them because they are so niche
@randomexcessmemories4452
@randomexcessmemories4452 9 ай бұрын
@@dotmbarricade3424 Yes! They're so cool.
@unskilled822
@unskilled822 7 ай бұрын
if trains were used over cars for transportation then it would still be a viable option, im not saying it isnt... its just that there arent many railways to make massive armoired train attacks @@dotmbarricade3424
@TheSovietWombat
@TheSovietWombat 9 ай бұрын
I bet they have a secret armoured train named the aurora with a special forces team of spartans
@LordOmnissiah
@LordOmnissiah 9 ай бұрын
I don’t see the idea of an armored train as being an outdated thing. I think it could still be a usable things with some upgrades to go alongside the heavy machine guns and auto cannons. They could give them things like anti-drone laser and microwave weapons, anti-air missiles, radars, and maybe deployable drones of their own to check the tracks and buildings along the route.
@ATBatmanMALS31
@ATBatmanMALS31 7 ай бұрын
Is it still going to ride on rails? Then it's useless in a near-peer conflict. It doesn't matter if it's a nuclear powered locomotive, with laser weapons... it still has to go down one path.
@dessirangelova2676
@dessirangelova2676 7 ай бұрын
​@@ATBatmanMALS31same with trucks and roads, same with planes and air routs, same with ships and sea lanes
@ATBatmanMALS31
@ATBatmanMALS31 7 ай бұрын
@@dessirangelova2676 No, no it isn't. At fucking all... I am more impressed with the level of self delusion than the context of this conversation. If you were crusing along, and decided you wanted to make a 90 degree left hand turn, which of the following vehicles COULDN'T accomplish that task (unless the fucking rails were already going that way): 1. car 2. boat 3. airplane 4. a fucking train. This isn't rhetorical.
@ATBatmanMALS31
@ATBatmanMALS31 7 ай бұрын
@@dessirangelova2676 jesus christ, this is so dumb it actually fucked my night up. Not on a personal level, more like "dumb people with confidence will destroy the fucking world, because it's inconvenient to fix them."
@unskilled822
@unskilled822 7 ай бұрын
amored trains are still useful for supply, an uptaded armored train would be cool if upgraded with better AA systems, it would be even better if the radar was in the last wagon and was detachable so you can confuse HARM missiles or another radar detection devices, but it needs to be escorted and always behind troops, armored train for attacking usually ends up in disaster if you dont know whats ahead, they also need engineers inside capable of fixing blown up railways so its quite the logistics to use one of them nowadays
@riam2829
@riam2829 9 ай бұрын
Your Videos are amazing they are so many different stories and cool and brave men
@slimshadybball
@slimshadybball 9 ай бұрын
Trains remain the most energy efficient and cheapest way to move mass over land. Nothing beats it or comes close. Also the reason why Warren Buffet invested so heavily in railroads.. they have a distinct advantage over other forms of land transportation. If the railroad is there, it's smart to use it, not dumb.
@War_Criminal
@War_Criminal 9 ай бұрын
0:12 Drive by shooting during ww2
@bmeht
@bmeht 9 ай бұрын
Could this finally be a Simple History video without grotesque torture animations? Let's find out.
@bmeht
@bmeht 9 ай бұрын
Wow, I'm speechless.
@paxhumana2015
@paxhumana2015 9 ай бұрын
I will tell you the real answer for that and that is because Russia knows that these things make for awesome bosses in vertically scrolling shooter games.
@silentwolf6555
@silentwolf6555 9 ай бұрын
Give the Russian credit on one thing, they built things to last
@GGGG-jn7ib
@GGGG-jn7ib 9 ай бұрын
U mean the ussr...
@mrbloby8806
@mrbloby8806 9 ай бұрын
@@GGGG-jn7ib he meant the Russian people in general and how they have built things that can last. Sure it was made mostly during the times of the Ussr but we still call the people Russian not something like ussren or something
@DamienDarkside
@DamienDarkside 9 ай бұрын
They do not make things to last, they make things easy to repair and maintain. There is a massive difference.
@RyuusanFT86
@RyuusanFT86 9 ай бұрын
Except their government
@RyuusanFT86
@RyuusanFT86 9 ай бұрын
​@@DamienDarksidethis
@MasterChiefSnake19910128
@MasterChiefSnake19910128 9 ай бұрын
This Russian military train is reminds me of Aurora train from Metro Exodus.
@jeremiahkivi4256
@jeremiahkivi4256 8 ай бұрын
Russians: *use 12th century technology in the 20th century* Also Russians: *using 19th century technology in 21st century*
@bredsheeran2897
@bredsheeran2897 9 ай бұрын
Another great video!
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 9 ай бұрын
They may not be that practical nowadays, but they still look impressive
@subratadhar7698
@subratadhar7698 9 ай бұрын
they are practical if you have extensive railworks like russia.
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 9 ай бұрын
Trotzki saw the future. A future of armored trains.
@billybobwombat2231
@billybobwombat2231 9 ай бұрын
One shoulder launched missile and goodnight Irene , seems like bringing a horse to a tank battle 🤷
@Shipwright1918
@Shipwright1918 9 ай бұрын
You can armor the train all you like, but you can't armor the track. All you have to do is shift over or remove one rail to make an armored train impotent.
@corymorimacori1059
@corymorimacori1059 9 ай бұрын
“ALL ABOARD HAHAHA! Crazy, but that's how it goes, millions of people living as foes. Maybe it's not too late, to learn how to love and forget how to hate. Mental wounds not healing, life’s a bitter shame. I’m going off the rails on a crazy train! I'm going off the rails on a crazy train!” Ozzy Osbourne
@TheoH.05
@TheoH.05 9 ай бұрын
Cant believe this video has more su57s than in real life
@user-me5oq3kl4h
@user-me5oq3kl4h 7 ай бұрын
This aged like milk
@Firesgone
@Firesgone 8 ай бұрын
The idea of a secret train in a secret tunnel network sounds awesome 😅 Something that big and loud sneaking around is just funny!
@garythesquidsquid7779
@garythesquidsquid7779 7 ай бұрын
I dunno. Having an armored train, vs having an unarmored train....
@jacobzehner2004
@jacobzehner2004 9 ай бұрын
BF1: An armored train is en route.
@GhostOfDamned
@GhostOfDamned 9 ай бұрын
Battlefield 1 players having PTSD with this video
@tvzombie0161
@tvzombie0161 9 ай бұрын
Great vid as always :)
@muhacnt7988
@muhacnt7988 9 ай бұрын
Must be cool to cruise around these in the heat of battle
@Ironninja84
@Ironninja84 8 ай бұрын
i thought these were just fiction but to actually hear Russia still uses these and refuses to discontinue them gives me some respect for them. I love trains but this is the coolest train idea ever thought of!
@kolinmartz
@kolinmartz 8 ай бұрын
0:13 armored trains disappeared long before those things even came on the scene. People realized that the train can be as armored and heavily armed as it wants to be but the tracks never move and they’re much more vulnerable
@prestons9305
@prestons9305 9 ай бұрын
Amazing graphics. Thank you.
@caelodevorago608
@caelodevorago608 9 ай бұрын
When your rear lines are so unstable, and you can't maintain security, is the *only* reason you'd have an armored train now. On the actual front lines, they're completely useless
@MistiriousStranger1
@MistiriousStranger1 9 ай бұрын
We are being reinforced with an armoured train 🚂 🚋🚋🚋🚋
@brianshooter_6723
@brianshooter_6723 9 ай бұрын
Hi Author! would it be possible in the Future for you to do video about US Rangers trap in the city of Mogadishu back in '93' along with the bravely of Malaysian Armored Unit or MALBATT was sent in along with US troops to the city to rescue the Trap Soldiers?
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 9 ай бұрын
Yes, maybe to watch MALBATT: Misi Barraka or Barraka Mission
@brianshooter_6723
@brianshooter_6723 9 ай бұрын
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 already did in Paragon Cinema. It was Awesome
@Admiral45-10
@Admiral45-10 9 ай бұрын
To be honest it's not as stupid as it sounds - trains are absolute backbone of logistics, both for civilian transport and in military. They scale easily, can pull hundreds of tonnes of cargo with just one powerhouse, are much easier to maintain than, say, roads or airfields and are much more resistant to weather conditions - and it's always better to protect this tabor with reinforced locomotives or special wagons. Although Russia is the only country I've heard about that still uses armoured trains, trains themselves are still in heavy use in military today. Good example is Polish Army, investing heavily in railway and cooperating with existing civilian one for their logistics.
@anthonywilliams379
@anthonywilliams379 8 ай бұрын
I mean, using a Train (especially a captured one) does have it's advantages, assuming that the enemy don't decide to up and obliterate the Rail network then Trains are more fuel efficient and can also be a lot faster than trucks especially for heavy weapon transport, in essence they're a decent option provided they're used far enough back from the front to worry about Artillery and air strikes, in particular they may deter weaker partizan/resistance forces in occupied lands from ambushing logistics
@sevatarlives185
@sevatarlives185 9 ай бұрын
I hope the next Russian Civil War has steampunk train pirates like the last one ❤
@sevatarlives185
@sevatarlives185 9 ай бұрын
They'll never see our secret attack train coming!
@vojnanaoruzanja9901
@vojnanaoruzanja9901 9 ай бұрын
Bro forgot to use medicine
@Astorath_the_Grim
@Astorath_the_Grim 9 ай бұрын
I know the next American Civil War will.
@iplaygames8090
@iplaygames8090 9 ай бұрын
the next russian civil war will be more atom based
@aaronhill8315
@aaronhill8315 9 ай бұрын
How to stop Russian trains. Step one: find out which track it's using Step two: demomens choice for track destruction
@klebleonard
@klebleonard 9 ай бұрын
go do it if its that easy
@christosferizis-synodinos8851
@christosferizis-synodinos8851 9 ай бұрын
Huh
@nikolaideianov5092
@nikolaideianov5092 9 ай бұрын
​@@klebleonardthe hard part for him is actualy getting to russia
@ZackShark1
@ZackShark1 9 ай бұрын
@@klebleonard you know you can 3d paint a train derailer right lol
@klebleonard
@klebleonard 9 ай бұрын
@@ZackShark1 ok if its easy go hijack a train in russia or anywhere in the world
@user-ck4yi1hs4x
@user-ck4yi1hs4x 9 ай бұрын
Russian: We have an armored behemoth Dude with Crowbar: Say less
@Rablax
@Rablax 7 ай бұрын
Use it because it's effective ❌ Use it because it looks cool af ✅
@jiroproduction8831
@jiroproduction8831 9 ай бұрын
Making armored trains in the present day makes you feel poor
@shadowhank5995
@shadowhank5995 9 ай бұрын
I know right
@user-kr7yh8vw9m
@user-kr7yh8vw9m 9 ай бұрын
Especially if you're part of Russia,the 2nd "most powerful" country in the world
@william_brobrine8975
@william_brobrine8975 9 ай бұрын
Zammurts is still my favorite design wish we knew its fait Out dated and obsolete i cant deny the respect i can give them for still using them. Im sure they still have their use.
@Dulleron
@Dulleron 9 ай бұрын
Your video quality got a whole lot better.
@Coronet_shop
@Coronet_shop 9 ай бұрын
This is new History Channel Nuff said
@dadtype2339
@dadtype2339 9 ай бұрын
Thumbs up if you agree you could watch a TV show that was animated like this set in WWII 👍 love your channel animations!❤
@Goddot
@Goddot 9 ай бұрын
luckily for them we don't have some sort of remote-controlled flying technology that gets regularly missed by their anti-air defences and is filled with enough explosives to destroy the rails. oh wait
@ianlang8817
@ianlang8817 9 ай бұрын
What is an Amored Train going to do against blown up railway tracks? Nothing, Thats a big fucking weakness!
@dionjaywoollaston1349
@dionjaywoollaston1349 9 ай бұрын
I suspect it’s for the same reason why the US is still using planes from the Vietnam war and guns from the First World War: because they work
@Tigerpanzer6666
@Tigerpanzer6666 9 ай бұрын
armored trains are a smart thing to do for at least for troop transport or equipment transport
@edward-jamesryan5796
@edward-jamesryan5796 9 ай бұрын
I still don't really understand how an Armored Train works in combat surely they would be easy to destroy as they have to follow a track?
@treebush
@treebush 9 ай бұрын
Mobile artillery that’s it
@donny8593
@donny8593 9 ай бұрын
Or for logistic cover
@ryanmalady376
@ryanmalady376 9 ай бұрын
It was probably alright in the 20th century, but in today's world with satellites, the enemy will see it coming from miles away and blow its tracks
@tacotuesday2381
@tacotuesday2381 9 ай бұрын
Anyone notice how they straight up stole the texture for the weapon workbench from Fallout4 at 4:25 😂
@tsuaririndoku
@tsuaririndoku 7 ай бұрын
*THE ENEMY HAS BEEN REINFORCED WITH AN ARMORED TRAIN*
@Astorath_the_Grim
@Astorath_the_Grim 9 ай бұрын
Is see this is more about anti-Russian propaganda than actually explaining why they might use them.
@Noogleminus
@Noogleminus 9 ай бұрын
Armored Trains will always be one of the most pointless machines of war. It's easy to identify a train's location. This means it's easy to stop armor or not. Tracks are kind of vulnerable. Wars have shown this. Once the train is stopped it can be killed at leisure, armored or not. That said, please, be our guest; waste all the time and money on armored trains. We're cheering for you.
@loyalpiper
@loyalpiper 9 ай бұрын
In the modern day you mean?
@Noogleminus
@Noogleminus 9 ай бұрын
@@loyalpiper No. They've never been a good idea.
@loyalpiper
@loyalpiper 9 ай бұрын
@Jakstr1981 they're performance in the Russian civil war and the wars before mass Ariel war says otherwise, look at the effect they had in the Russian civil war where the czechoslovak legion held the transiberian railway at will. Even in 1939 the poles used them to such great effect the Germans literally reintroduced them to service due to the ambush tactics they adopted.
@Noogleminus
@Noogleminus 9 ай бұрын
@@loyalpiper Trains, armored or not are easy to predict, easy to locate, and easy to stop. In fact, they don't even have to be attacked directly to be stopped. The tracks are always there waiting to be damaged. Trains aren't known for going off-road. If one is coming, it's easy to avoid. So this means there really isn't an advantage to armoring a train. It'll be stopped and killed just as easily regardless. So this means armored trains are a pretty toy that is more of a waste than a tool.
@loyalpiper
@loyalpiper 9 ай бұрын
@Jakstr1981 @Jakstr1981 you realise trains have these things called repair parties? Destroying the tracks doesn't work if they can just repair the tracks and be moving again within an hour,, hence why partisans had to result to blowing up the trains themselves durring ww2 but solutions were constantly being made to counter this. And even if you directly attack it after blowing up the tracks you've still got a heavily armoured fortress you need to destroy in a direct attack. It only becomes obsolete once you have highly developed aircraft with ordinance which is capable of piercing its armour.
@edi9892
@edi9892 8 ай бұрын
Today, they're huge and predictable targets, but arming and armouring trains still makes sense as it's hard to give protection of trains by escort...
@allensacharov5424
@allensacharov5424 9 ай бұрын
an armored train was an integral part of the movie Dr. Zhivago
@soarinskies1105
@soarinskies1105 9 ай бұрын
Wait a minute, you’re telling me that the Russians are still using armored trains? No wonder they’re losing the war against Ukraine lol, they’re using military tactics that are over half a century out of date.
@royale7620
@royale7620 9 ай бұрын
So because they are using armored trains for mine sweeping and reconnaissance they are "losing"? is that what your puny little brain tells you?
@klebleonard
@klebleonard 9 ай бұрын
@@royale7620 he's the smartest ukrainian supporter
@ernestojr.valenzuela4062
@ernestojr.valenzuela4062 9 ай бұрын
​@@royale7620Russians and their empty head thought they would the war in days. And now Ukraine has took back most of territories Russia gained. Only a matter time before Russian civil war 2.0 will happen.
@nikolaideianov5092
@nikolaideianov5092 9 ай бұрын
​@@royale7620useing trains for fucking recon ? Wtf its a train not a light tank ,apc or ifv
@victormontes7007
@victormontes7007 9 ай бұрын
Two mom recuiting ad
@BraindeadCRY
@BraindeadCRY 9 ай бұрын
when youre worried about civilian saboteurs then armored trains make sense tbh, your average rebel doesn't have access to fighters or guided missiles. And against ambushes with small arms and improvised explosives these trains are a reasonably effective defense.
@sauer7592
@sauer7592 9 ай бұрын
The Enemy has been reinforced with an armored Train.
@dennisud
@dennisud 8 ай бұрын
I knew they used trains for supplies and transport, but the use of them for battle wasn't as well known! Thanks!
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