Why doesn't God save everyone? R.C. Sproul

Welcome to our channel! In this enlightening video, renowned Reformed Pastor R.C. Sproul delves into the profound doctrine of limited atonement within Christianity. Join us as we explore the intricacies of this theological concept.
🔹 What is Limited Atonement? 🔹
R.C. Sproul meticulously breaks down the essence of limited atonement, also known as particular redemption or definite atonement. Discover the theological framework behind this doctrine and its implications for understanding the scope of Christ's sacrifice.
🔹 Biblical Foundations 🔹
Delve deep into the Scriptures as R.C. Sproul provides a comprehensive examination of the biblical passages that underpin the doctrine of limited atonement. Gain insights into key verses and their significance in shaping this theological perspective.
🔹 Historical Context 🔹
Explore the historical backdrop surrounding the development of the doctrine of limited atonement. Learn about its origins, controversies, and how it has been understood throughout Christian history.
🔹 Theological Implications 🔹
Uncover the theological implications of limited atonement and its relationship to other doctrines within Reformed theology. Discover how this concept shapes our understanding of salvation, God's sovereignty, and the nature of Christ's redemptive work.
🔹 Common Misconceptions Addressed 🔹
R.C. Sproul addresses common misconceptions and objections related to limited atonement, providing clarity and insight into this complex theological topic.
🔹 Practical Application 🔹
Gain practical wisdom on how the doctrine of limited atonement impacts the life of believers and their understanding of God's grace, mercy, and salvation.
🔹 Conclusion and Reflections 🔹
In this concluding segment, R.C. Sproul offers reflections and encourages viewers to deepen their understanding of limited atonement, emphasizing its profound significance within the Christian faith.
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[@arjancornelissen9634]

I'm so thankful that Jesus died for all the elect to make salvation certain for them.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

Certain for any who are born again and endure to the end.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

@@bobbyadkins6983 ...those who are born again will stop fighting Scripture for teaching ""Calvinism""...

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

Unless of course, that you and/or your loved ones are not the Elect! LOL

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

@@arjancornelissen9634 I would think so! I get your point.

[@oxygentank00]

🌍 1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[@kurtweiand7086]

That's a good start, if His will is not always done, either He is not sovereign or else.....!

[@oxygentank00]

@@kurtweiand7086 ???

[@lindajohnson4204]

​@@kurtweiand7086Or else forcing His will on us is not how God uses His sovereignty. Was God sovereign when Jesus said "how often would I have gathered your children, like a hen gathers her chicks under her wing, and ye would not"? "I would (...would I...)" "ye would not". Bear in mind that He was still God; He hadn't laid that aside. Was He still sovereign? Yes. He could have commanddd al those angels to deliver Him, or just smashed all His enemies Himself. Those are just some of His options to exercise His sovereignty. Here, it was to sincerely desire to gather them, but they would not. He could have gathered them forcefully, but apparently He did not choose to do that, yet it was no loss to His sovereigty, but rather His chosen exercise of it.

[@paulbarrera5026]

Couldn't of said it any better but you know how these Bible hijacking Calvinists are, what a bunch of frauds!​@@lindajohnson4204

[@kenklein9228]

@@lindajohnson4204 Precisely. Arminians don't contend that God isn't sovereign, but rather that God in His sovereignty desires every human being to make a choice, and He enables that through His grace. That's God's overarching will.

[@michaelbeam3781]

Many are called because God so loved the world... but few are chosen... because they will not repent of their sins.

[@HonrbleMention]

Wrong.

[@siry5164]

Amen🛐for each other and loved one’s Salvation and deliverance, also dealing with many diseases and afflictions and much pain and with shingles now as a well as diabetes Copd arthritis and more. So so tired of these mistakes by dentists on my bridge and crowns that they get them right finally and the color tint as well, and Stop their continual charging out of pocket costs the Insurances should absorb completely. Have mercy on us and save my loved ones. Forgive us Lord You are Praised Amen!🛐💜🙏🏼✝️😇🩸🙌🔥🤲

[@HonrbleMention]

Misinterpretation of scripture. Do you really think God thinks like you? 🤦‍♂️ He does not indeed give a reason for divine election, so as to assign a cause why this man is chosen and that man rejected; for it was not meet that the things contained in the secret counsel of God should be subjected to the judgment of men; and, besides, this mystery is inexplicable. He therefore keeps us from curiously examining those things which exceed human comprehension. He yet shows, that as far as God’s predestination manifests itself, it appears perfectly just.

[@HonrbleMention]

Not true

[@joadkison]

@@HonrbleMention”Whosoever will may come”

[@ronniegrove6620]

Sola Scriptura God bless R.C may he rest in peace with our Lord and God. Amen

[@markmayer508]

I absolutely love the teaching style of R C Sproul!!!

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

They loved Jim Jones and David Karesh! I humbly implore you to love Jesus's style, and stick with that and you can't go wrong.

[@markmayer508]

@Brotheral-pb1oj with all the heretical teachers out who dominate the airwaves , men like RC and John macarthur and a few others are a breath of fresh air!!!! Don't talk crap to because I express my opinion your freaking pharisee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JeffHovsepian]

I LOVED R.C. Sproul! What a guy, what a teacher. Such knowledge and insight, presented with such humility and realness. Loved him.

[@aussierob7177]

Because not everyone want's to be saved Therefore, God respects the freedom of his creatures.

[@jacobso223]

Dr. Sproul's legacy remains valuable to us, God's children.

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

Actually what you just said is " Blasphemous Narcissism "! Our salvation has nothing to do with any man's legacy. It consists only of Faith in the atonement of Christ. Once we start putting people on pedestals, we have transferred our worship from our Saviour to the creature that cannot save! This is happening through-out all so-called Christians, including calvinists and non-calvinists! People are impressed with the charisma of men, moreso than a desire to know God's Truth! 1st John chapter 1 verse 27. Acts chapter 20 verse 30. 2nd Corinthians chapter 10 verses 15 thru 17. 1st Corinthians chapter 3 verse 21. The enemy desires that believers glory in men, because this is exactly what God teaches us not to do. Isaiah chapter 48 verse 11. Christ is the only Savior, not Sproul or any other so-called minister.

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

R C Sproul skillfully teaches people that there is no real purpose in God's entire plan of the creation of man and of course man's relationship to His Creator. Sproul convincingly, simply says that God decided to create man, and that He would simply force some of them to worship Him, and would simply damn most of them to eternal separation from Him, so that the forced worshippers would give Him glory for not damning them. What amazes me is that anyone can believe this blasphemy. Not to mention, the Bible teaches us that God is "SEEKING TRUE WORSHIPPERS ". This clearly shows True Believers just how dangerous Satan is and why the Bible is constantly warning us about False Teachers. Let him with an ear hear!

[@thejuiceisloose3785]

It’s crazy how many people are so nasty, wouldn’t it be better to just not comment than to put down a man of God.

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

@thejuiceisloose3785 The Jewish leaders had the audacity to accuse Jesus of being demonic. I can certainly understand how someone can say that I'm being nasty when I call out Sproul on his false teachings. There is no GREY area. Either one is a false teacher or one is not. I'm guessing that you've never researched calvinism.

[@billmartinn9851]

Where 99% of Calvanists are in error, is believing faith is a "work." Of course it's ALL by God's grace that I am saved. I can do nothing on my own. But I trust Him, because that's what He wants me to do. No Calvanism. No TULIP. Jesus and He alone. FAITH in Him!

[@arjancornelissen9634]

Where 100% of arminians are in error, is believing you can proclaim to have FAITH in Him and at the same time REJECT His clear teaching in John chapter six 😞

[@abuelb]

Faith is a gift. You didnt own it or earned it. It is given so a person can believe.

[@jarvisnelson4701]

Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water. John 7:37 et seq. Jesus actually taught unlimited atonement. Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:29

[@bozman247]

John 6:44

[@Vampyrekai]

Nope. Read all of John.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

​@@bozman247Genesis -Revelation.

[@ronniegrove6620]

Explain Romans 9:11-13 Praying for God's grace to bless all brothers and sisters.

[@Vampyrekai]

Just read the rest of Romans 9

[@bobbyadkins6983]

Paul was talking about the nations of Israel and Edom. Esau never served Jacob. We read in second Samuel 8:14 how the Edomites served Israel. Read Malachi from where 13 is quoted. Then read Obadiah and find out why God was angry with Edom.

[@thejuiceisloose3785]

Why would anyone put down a man of God, if you don’t exhibit fruits of the spirit you should question your own salvation.

[@franciscoavila8724]

Calvanism is the gospel, people just don't get it, every son of Adam is dead, dead men do nothing for himself, man is not just injured to the point of death HE IS DEAD!!! man's free will is not free, man's will is dead towards GOD, I don't know how people can overlook this passage in romans (( it is not of him who wills or of him who runs, but of GOD who shows mercy)) for arminians it is a scary thing to believe that salvation is out of their hands, I think arminians don't know the depth of the fall

[@jimpowell2296]

Please listen to Leighton Flowers about Calvinism.

[@bluewhitebluewhite7429]

Wow that’s a profound statement

[@thejuiceisloose3785]

God doesn’t send people to hell we send ourselves to hell through original sin. God sends people to heaven. And to not believe that is to not believe in Gods sovereignty

[@d3700]

The Holy Spirit will not teach anyone Calvinism (Tulip). Calvinism is learned from man. Once a person starts learning/learns Calvinism a very bewitching and persistent spirit will come up on them. This spirit will try to convince them Calvinism is found all through the bible and is biblical. I fought it and rebuked it in the name of Jesus and it left me for a season. The simple fact that it left after being rebuked tells me Calvinism it is not of God nor is it biblical. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

[@gregturk2824]

You seem not to get it, being dead is simply a metaphor. Was the prodigal son dead to his father? According to Jesus and the word his father used, “my son was dead but now is alive” yes. But what else did Jesus say? The son “realized” his situation and went home to his father with a repentant heart. Anywhere in the story did the father make is son come alive? No. The word “dead” is simply a metaphor, like saying, “you’ve lost your mind.” Augustine, Calvin, and yes R.C.Sproul are all wrong on this issue. Remember, all these men believe in infant baptism also and many other things that are not in the scripture.

[@LarryAKuhn]

Even J Mac says we are all to dumb to figure out the mind of God and that both free will and pre d exist in not only the same books but the same chapters and sometimes just a few verses apart. I enjoy the struggle of not knowing for certain either way but am happy I don’t. It increases my desire to know more and to enjoy knowing that I’m not smart enough to figure out the mind of our God. If I could or you could He wouldn’t be much of one. Praise God for all that are saved regardless of how.

[@danreich4320]

I listened to one of his sermons just a few days ago on predestination versus free will and he spent the majority of his time mocking those that didn’t follow the Calvinist approach. He’s not near as gracious as you make him sound. Indeed, he was downright arrogant about the whole thing.

[@HonrbleMention]

Not one answered my question. Is God's salvation conditional or unconditional?

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@@HonrbleMention God's salvation is conditional.

[@HonrbleMention]

@@bobbyadkins6983 you're an idiot.

[@HonrbleMention]

@bobbyadkins6983 So, you think his love is unconditional but his salvation is conditional? What books are you reading? Because that's not what the Bible teaches. No wonder y'all are goofy.

[@jumperstartful]

How does one know if they are the ELECT? Before or after you die!? I've been a believer from 65 years but to no avail? Though luck I lost out on the salvation Lottery?!! Please explain.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

Very good question! The answer is Romans chapter 8. The context is Romans 5:1 and Romans 10:9. So the answer is clearly before you die. Paul wrote (well in fact Tertius did, see 16:22) to the elect, in chapter 8. The Golden Chain of Redemption, Romans 8:30, is followed by the question 'what then shall we say to these things?' What things??? Paul speaks to the ones for whom there is NO condemnation (8:1) , aka the children of God (8:16) , aka 'whom He predestined and also called' (8:30), AKA the ELECT (8:33). These are the ones for whom He also intercedes, John 17:2 and again Romans 8:27 and 8:34. And all the elect say: Amen.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

Now read Ephesians chapter 1 😃

[@n88986]

This is a really good lesson; especially If one would have ears to hear.

[@patrickedgington5827]

Calvin understood works don’t save you, and plainly that while grace is said to be the means, God having enough for all, not all, in truth most are not saved; therefore Calvinism. The problem is that while one can see Calvinism in many verses of scripture one can also see verses that have to be overlooked to hold the view. Is that what we as Christians want to do? Maybe as Calvin was a man, he just got it wrong? Maybe the way he understood Christianity worked, was in fact not the way it does? The crux of it seems to be FAITH; you’re save by grace through faith, no faith? grace is not going to work. I think it’s worth asking the question? Many see faith as believing, believing as faith. But there are clear cases in scripture of believers being cast out. In each case being told I never knew you by the Lord. Have ears to hear? Wouldn’t it be a shock if you found too late it was you that didn’t listen? I'm sure for the Lord, Lord, crowd it was. They are so sure, they argue with Him; didn’t we do all these great works in your name? If any were asked in life, do you know Him, they would be so sure they did? Certainly, as sure as you are. How did they get it so wrong? In life they were teachers, look at what they say they did; have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name; only to find too late they had not only cheated themselves out of the kingdom, they had led others to destruction. The blind guides spoken of. If only they understood faith? Maybe you are one that thinks faith is believing? If so, I ask you to test that by the word. I ask you to read a passage that has men, believers, His own disciples, asking to be saved; understanding they were about to perish, and coming to Him in that moment when only He could rescue them? Matthew 8 beginning in verse 25. Consider if they have less faith, as you describe it, than you, and notice how their faith is graded by Yashua. If you want to dig deeper into faith, the faith that saves us, I would be happy to comment further. But for now, this comment is just to say Calvin got it wrong.

[@HonrbleMention]

Nope. Justification by faith alone. Luther Calvin Edwards Aquinas Augustine all agreed that the faith Gzus & Paul are talking about isn't created humans faith but the actual righteous faith of Christ. Gal. 3, 22 kjv. And who believes? Only those God chose b4 any were born to be quickened. Unconditional election. If it's your decision than that's conditional election.

[@HonrbleMention]

Yeah, the idiot who just claimed salvation is conditional. I thought you Arminianist were all about unconditional love? Such hypocrites.

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

What do you need to hear? According to heretics like Sproul, its all said and done, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. The gall of these heretics!

[@lovealways2609]

​@@HonrbleMentiontrue

[@LukeYHWH]

After watching and reading explanations about election, predestination, if God wants to save everybody or only certain people, I’m gonna come to the conclusion that I don’t know and we don’t know. One side tries to explain it but gets contradicted and then the other side tries to explain and it gets contradicted. And when anybody talks about it, it makes no sense and I think that’s the answer. We can’t understand God’s mind. Imma stick with my Deuteronomy 29:29

[@lindajohnson4204]

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And *this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and MEN loved darkness rather than light,* because their deeds were evil. All people have sinned. We all do evil, and we all have this tendency to hide from God. Jesus goes on to say that some people *"do truth",* and we can take it from the rest of the Bible that Jesus is not saying goody goodies, who never do anything wrong, are the ones who *do truth.* They have to be sinners, just like the ones who won't come to the light. Therefore, the only deeds they are wanting to be clearly seen-their deeds-that they are "wrought in God", is that doing truth, and it is "wrought in God", yet is _their_ deed. To do truth must have been something they received from God, yet they can receive it or reject it, hence the responsibility. The men are truly responsible for evading the light that has come into the world, for not doing truth. Therefore, the ones who do truth are held responsible for choosing the truth over the evasion of truth they formerly practiced, even though the truth they are doing is altogether a glft of God. They are held responsible for doing that truth, therefore they are responsible, and it was not given to them irresistibly, because they would not be responsible, then, and Jedus says that men (and by implication, women) are responsible for their condemnation.

[@quietplace7600]

Christs death was for ALL, but it is applied ONLY to those who repent and believe…

[@boardtodeath46]

Aside from those that committee the unforgivable sin, Jesus paid for every sin, ever. The law was satisfied.

[@excellent952]

Jesus paid for all the sins of those who would believe. The lost would not be lost if Jesus sacrifice covered their sin.

[@boardtodeath46]

@@excellent952 I’m not really sure how you would come to that conclusion. If there were sins of a million souls Christ didn’t pay for, then he couldn’t help them even if he wanted, they would owe him no debt. He must have paid for everyone, therefore being the only door through which one enters heaven

[@HonrbleMention]

God loves sinners huh?5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

[@boardtodeath46]

@@HonrbleMention is this a serious question? His children are in a world ravaged by sin and preyed upon by the devil and demons. Expecting us to make mistakes and you think he does still love the sinners? He loves the sinner, not the sin

[@HonrbleMention]

@boardtodeath46 ok. So when a sinner dies who does God throw into hades, the sinner or his her sins?

[@bobbyadkins6983]

I'm so thankful that Jesus died for all to make salvation possible for all.

[@pittymaster496]

21Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? 22What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? God in His Grace makes the sun shine on both His children and the children of wrath. He makes the rain sufficient for all. But only Gods children glorify His name for sustaining His Creation, those who are His enemies mock and curse Him, finding all manner of excuses to blaspheme His name, storing up Wrath for the day of Judgement.

[@patrickcross4425]

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people," "But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone." "because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false." Man is able to respond but refuses to love the truth; if he recievies the truth, he will be saved. God would not have to send a strong delusion if they mankind was born unable to respond. Sending the delusion is God's hardening of those who reject. Just read the Bible and don't except what is not found in the Scripture.

[@charlottelovinggod5419]

Calvinism makes absolutely sense, if you understand it...people are sensitive and looks at it from the wrong point of view, don't think of yourself or your lost love one's...think of God's purpose and did He accomplished it?

[@clarkl4177]

Thankful for so much clarity. Sproul illuminates the truth of Scripture--NOT of his INTERPRETATION of it. READ the Bible. There are too many "Alls" 'Whosoevers" "Everyones" and "Anyones" to be "Limited" 🙌🏼Blessed be the God who desires ALL men to be saved, like a mother hen who longs to cover and protect--but WE wouldn't 😢

[@TAGtalkinaboutGod]

In proportion to our abandonment of God are we taken care of by God. Therefore, we must surrender to the Will of God(Inner Christ) if we truly Desire to Discern the Movements of God within, as God conducts his Will in ways that oppose human will and understanding.... We must Remove the False Mortal Image of a ME separate and apart from God.... The Christ is the act of Eternal Life living Within its own Infinity, and becomes Demonstrable through the Receptivity of the Crucifixion of the Self separate and apart from God.... The Christ is ALWAYS ALIVE IN US, but we must be Alive to the Christ.... When we are not attuned to Divine Consciousness(Eternal Life, Immortality, Truth, God), by default, we are attuned to Mortal Consciousness(karmic death, mortality, form, fear, evil, etc).... Every communication Unfolding from God within is to encourage the Spirit/Soul die to the Self, as the Purpose of the Soul is to take Dominion over our only Adversary, the World Mind and it's thoughts tempting us to believe mortality/form/decay is reality... The Christ Within asks one thing of us: Crucify the Belief in a Me Separate and Apart from the Immortal, Omnipresent Spirit of God, as there is no more Glorious a Demonstration than the Transformation from mortal sense to Spiritual Immortality.... The massive wall we have built shielding us from our truth lies in intellectual concepts known as the Graven Images of Mortality experienced through the senses(including all religious beliefs). What is of God is Infinite, and what is not of God is an Appearance of a False Image where Only God is.... Heaven is where you are and the only place that you can ever be, yet Hell is the place that you insist on experiencing by entertaining a mortal life separate and apart from God.... We cannot glorify the Father, and glorify the flesh, or the sense of a personal Me separate and apart from God(including the flesh of jesus). Our Consciousness can not be divided in this. Either God is or God isn't the Only Life, and our experience is the Demonstration of either/or, depending on our receptivity to Life(Immortality), or Death(Mortality)... Where there's a Me(human self-love and human self-will) separate and apart from God there is SIN..... SELF...................S INDULGED..........I NUISANCE.........N Me, not God, therefore, ME knows better than God, and because ME knows better, ME MUST suffer the consequences of ME mortal beliefs of a Life Separate and Apart from God!! ME must appear to suffer the mortal consequences of ME IGNORANCE of TRUTH of BEING.... He who Realizes his Life is the Spirit of God has Eternal Life! He then walks through the mortal appearance a Divine Being, in who the 5 Senses of Mortal Lies have been Impersonalized, therefore hold no power over him. His fidelity is to the Immortal Spirit he is, and no longer to the mortal illusion of life not of God.... We Must OVERCOME the Belief that we are not Immortal, Divine Being..... To him that Overcometh the temptation of the tree of good and evil(belief in a mortal existence separate and apart from God)will I give to eat of the Tree of Life(ALL GOD IS/ETERNAL LIFE), which is in the Midst of the Kingdom of God(Omnipresence).... Turn ye from the false images of the mortal world of man with breath in his nostrils, and Dwell in the Secret Place of the Most High!! I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD....of the 5 senses of World Mind Belief, knowing they can only lie.... The degree to which we can look at the shadow of the material world of death/mortality that is not of Spirit/God and not be disturbed by it is the Path of the Realized Christ.... I and the Infinite are One.... We are not a Christian until we know the Infinite Perfect Spirit of Christ is our Identity!! Peace Be Unto You

[@franciscoavila8724]

That's painting with a broad brush, I'm a dispensionalist and we believe in the 5 points of calvanism,

[@terryqueenjr.6700]

GOD is only going to save the people who put their faith and trust in JESUS CHRIST in HIM alone, you need to repent of your sins and change your lifestyle. You can’t have one foot in heaven and the other foot in this world system

[@user-xj1fu8bd8m]

According to Ephesians 2:8 Salvation is 100 % by God it is a total gift, even the faith to believe is a gift, not of yourselves means you contribute 00000000000000000000000000000 nothing. A- MEN.

[@michaelesdohr7879]

We wrestle NOT against flesh & blood but principalities and powers and wickedness and high places. Our fight isn’t with one another - that’s how Satan gets our houses to fall. Because it is written , a house divided against itself cannot stand - I also understand the unregenerate mind will not be subject to the will of God neither CAN it.

[@HonrbleMention]

the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. That's right. 👍

[@lindajohnson4204]

But when we are being convicted by the Holy Spirit, thats when He is making a way that we may believe. He is both able to get through to us, and also to provide us the way to believe and be saved, getting though that prison of being dead in sin.

[@jannawalters232]

That TULIP is a horrid flower! Learning of Calvinism devastated me. Detest it. If it's true or not, it wrecked me.

[@uchihadabba699]

Why?

[@randys2358]

It shouldn't. Listen closely to what is explained. Then listen again. The message should not, in any way be one of deviation.

[@HB_IE52829]

It does not really matter which book of the Bible I read. It always grows me in faith and love for Jesus Christ as well as me marvel at His grace. It makes me happy. None of these "I am so super smart" discussions ever played any role in that. I listened to this here, I listened to a almost 90 minutes explanation why kneeling before a carved statue of Mary, kissing her wooden feet, decorate her with flowers and candles is no worship, I listened to an over 2 hour explanation why an transformation from supermarket bread into the body, the literal flesh of Christ happens in the roman catholic eucharist, why the word of God is not Gods word but given us by the Catholic Church,... and a lot more from different people and denominations. Maybe I am simply not smart enough to get it. I already struggle with all the denominations. I got saved when reading the Bible at age 47 and at that time I refused to go to church, because I wanted HIS word and just understand it the way I understand when reading it myself. His spoken word into my ears like those on the mount of olives etc.. And I fall on my knees and proclaimed: "Jesus, you are my Lord and Savior and I am from now on your servant. I will follow you and only you and obey your word and submit to your will". That made me a Follower of the Lord. That and only that. When I meet people on Bible congresses etc, they all tell me "I am baptist", "I am Lutheran", I am this, I am that. I am catholic, ... Still missing Jesus in all of that... I am not a follower of Catholicism, Southern Baptism... I want Jesus and I follow Him. A denomination would not be my first though, not my second, not even third though... I realized, that just reading the Bible myself and understanding it the way I did, I am pretty close to what baptist believe. Maybe more what followers in a so called "gospelhall" believe. Whatever the Lord said, maybe there is all that you are talking about and what I dont get. Could easily be. But Jesus talked to fishermen, carpenters, homeless. And as God incarnated He knew for sure, with 100% certainty, that all those people understood Him. Otherwise, He would have used different words. So what is this all about? All these super smart important theories, the opinion you need 4 years bible colleges from Dr-so-and-so, a Phd from the university of so-and-so to understand His word, or better the roman catholic priest to figure it out and explain it to you? "This is my flesh"... And someone needs over 2 hours to explain to me that it is really His flesh i eat and not a metaphor for the sacrifice next day, sharing his flesh? If it all strengthens your faith and love for the Lord, if it makes your day - fair enough. If you are saved - wonderful!. But I dont need these discussions. And likely no-one got it fully figured out. Why not wait till we meet Jesus and ask him... Until then, I dont care about it.

[@djparsons7363]

Jesus is NOT God incarnated, when on earth he was 100% human like every other man but sinless. (Philippians 2:7) No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and BECAME HUMAN. Jesus is the Son of God, a separate individual and given life by his Father, he did not always exist. (Revelation 3:14) “To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION BY GOD:

[@HonrbleMention]

If you're dead as the Bible teaches how'd you make yourself alive?

[@art333-dg8dd]

sometimes he speak the truth but other times he is contradicting the bible just like the devil did with Jesus in luke chap4

[@art333-dg8dd]

so your are in danger listening to this guy.

[@HonrbleMention]

Anyone who says you're not in charge of your eternal destiny must be rejected. Right? Conditional salvation.

[@normmcinnis4102]

Crafty...

[@GordonGartrell27]

God is so good and so powerful that He created some people who cannot repent.

[@2011hib]

I. Don’t. Think. So.

[@ryandionisio4137]

They don’t want to.

[@GordonGartrell27]

@@ryandionisio4137 Exactly! It's glorious!!

[@bluewhitebluewhite7429]

Makes no sense

[@StarAccount-km1rt]

DEFORMED Theologian parents bed time story. Little Johnny, God has predestined the minority of people to be saved and go to heaven forever, and He has predestined the majority of people to be eternally damned and burn in the fires of hell. We have no idea, little Johnny, if God has predestined you to be forever damned or forever saved. We love you, little Johnny, but we accept the fact that God might not love you, and that He may have plans to send you to hell for your future sins. If you do find yourself one day burning in hell because He hasn’t elected to save you, just remember that we will always love you, even if God hates you. Take comfort knowing that we are not like God. We will be in heaven forever only because we were unconditionally chosen for salvation before we were born. That would be the only reason that we won’t be in hell with you if you find yourself there. It won’t be because of anything we did. So also take comfort in knowing that. It may not seem fair, but who are we to judge God? So again, if you find yourself in hell, remember that we will always love you as we forever worship the God who loved us but who hated you, the God who sent His Son to die for us but not for you. Please, we ask, don’t let it bother you-if you find yourself in hell-that we love the God who hated you and showed you no mercy. We must accept the fact that God is sovereign, and He does what He pleases. My dear beloved Calvinist, will you teach that to your children or grandchildren? I suspect that your answer will be “never.” But why not? Why would you ever hide the wonderful “doctrines of grace,” the “Bible truth,” from your own children or grandchildren? TRUTH IN LOVE

[@davidaucoin7317]

If repent means to stop sinning than no one can truly stop sinning because we have all inherited the sin nature which compels us to sin. If it is possible for us to stop sinning Jesus would not have had to pay for our sins. The reason Jesus was able not to sin was because not haven been born of the sin of man he alone did not inherit the sin nature thus he didn't sin because he couldn't really be tempted. If we examine the anatomy of a sin we find that there are three necessary components that all must be in place for sin to happen. These three components are #1 commandments.#2 people with the sin nature and # three temptation. Take anyone of these three components away and sin can't occur. What keeps people out of Heaven is not their sinning parse but not haven confessed Jesus as Lord publicaly as Romans 10:9 declares and the thief on the cross did according to Luke 23:versus 42 and 43. Jesus was the perfect Lamb who takes away the sins of the world thus everone's sins have already been paid for. The only requirement for salvation is not confessing Jesus as Lord.

[@djparsons7363]

This is really what keeps people out of Heaven: You aren't one of the "born again" 144,000, the ONLY humans who have a 'Heavenly calling". God has NEVER said all who claim to be Christians are going to Heaven, that is a false hope that the churches teach, it's a lie!

[@bethlewis8731]

@@djparsons7363 we all are the 144,000 we each have 144,000 dna Strands the end game is to merge man with technology called transhumanism the iron mixing with the clay adding a strand called the golden strand dna to the human race through technology changing our dna forever 😮 we are no longer Gods creation at that time !!!!!! All can be researched and proven 🙏

[@Truthseeker424]

The Roman’s road? kzbin.info/aero/PLzm_rtdV65NXp031qJLo01jilbg6aPhc6 The plan of salvation… kzbin.info/aero/PLzm_rtdV65NU4BQvDgmsCzxqNqmDQqxJf

[@D-777i]

I find it hard to accept that non-believers would go to hell for eternity. If Jesus did die for our sins, why is it necessary to believe in Him in order to be redeemed? I understand that God gives us free will to accept Him or not, and He wants us to love Him because we choose to, but surely a loving God would not cast his children into eternal torment because they didn’t believe in Him, or had never heard the gospel being preached? Also, not everyone is spiritually inclined, they may however be a good person who does a lot of things selflessly for others, surely a loving God would not cast them into hell?

[@kelvinbarber1765]

Yes, he will. To believe in him is to accept his work on the Cross. He died for sin. Therefore, u no longer have to live in sin. The penalty for sin will either fall on you or him. Accept him by faith and live according to SCRIPTURES or reject him and go straight to HELL.

[@jackshadow325]

Modern western Christianity is an atheist factory.

[@michaelsherron7815]

Why does God save ANYONE?

[@user-xj1fu8bd8m]

Because we are his children and God is love, Some day I hope you learn ALL YES ALL WILL BE SAVED, YES EVEN HITLER AND EVERYONE ELSE Why the wages of sin is Death Genesis 2: 17.....thou shalt surely die. 1 Corinthians 15:54......Death is swallowed up in victory. 55. O death where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy Victory? WHY??? Behold the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world. The world means ALL. according to Ephesians 2:8 Salvation is 100% by God your faith to believe is given to you, you contribute 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 +0000 nothing A-MEN you will act on what God gives you but only because God gave it to you.

[@michaelsherron7815]

@@user-xj1fu8bd8m AMEN! 😊

[@CappieBG]

@@user-xj1fu8bd8m I respect Universalism more than the ECT view of hell guys.

[@art333-dg8dd]

jesus warned us there will be many false teacher. he also said that in the last day you should seek to find the discret slave thathe has chosen IT would be used by him to feed his flock.these popular rich evangelist dont qualify, they seek their own glory

[@HonrbleMention]

Anyone who says you're not charge of your eternal destiny must be rejected. Conditional salvation. Right?

[@jumperstartful]

discrete slave sounds like JW.

[@move_i_got_this5659]

He did save everyone. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. God promised the Promised Land to the Hebrews who were delivered from Egypt. 99.999% of them did not make it because of their sins. How do you get through the Old Testament and not realize that we are bent on doing evil. That we are all sold under sin. How is it that you, who do no good works, is not considered worse than an unbeliever?

[@pittymaster496]

Jesus called the 12 apostles. Was It was sufficient for the 12?...YES. Was it effectual for all 12?...no.

[@danadams494]

R.C. says the problem with unlimited atonement is that while available to all it is possible that no one would accept it. This puts God in the position of having to "wait and see" who will or won't be saved, and is an insult to the omniscience of God.

[@perttisuorsa4678]

You forget that God is able to see into the future.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

So according to you, Jesus is a LIAR in John 6:37 and in His prayer, John 17:2. Do you think you can get away with that? 😢

[@arjancornelissen9634]

So, the Father 'limits' the atonement.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

​@@perttisuorsa4678 Really? But is He 'able' to choose His elect before creation? Read Ephesians 1 before you reply!! God is Sovereign, we are not. Mankind doesn't have 'free will', we have our own will, bound by sin, big difference. John 6:65 and Amen

[@perttisuorsa4678]

​​@@arjancornelissen9634 I was not meant to get away with it. You should remember that God predestines everything that happens and He has predestined me to be wrong. God predestines us to commit horrible crimes and then He holds us accountable for those crimes. If I am wrong about something it is because God has predestined me to be wrong and if I blaspheme God it is because God has predestined me to blaspheme Him. You should not blame me for the bad things that I do. You should blame God for them.

[@jamesisaac4147]

The elect can't perish..... soooo

[@Tonetwisters]

Why are any of us even here in the first place?

[@Zubeneshemali]

We are here to make the best choices we can, given our circumstances and what we know!! EVERY human knows right from wrong; we prove ourselves by the choices we make, allowing Almighty God to reward us according to our choices!!

[@thegreatgazoo7579]

@@Zubeneshemali So God made us defective, unable to do what is right, then punishes us for how he made us. What a stupid doctrine.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

Why? Predestination.

[@D-777i]

This - " The process of becoming is a circle, the process of becoming more, of growth is towards or away from the wholeness....and the final Goal? We know not, nor is it yet, or likely to be for aeons to come, our immediate concern. The faint of heart will ever seek some resting place, some weak finality; for the strong, the first and the last word is and ever more will be - Walk On !" Christmas Humphreys

[@MountainMan.]

My problem is we didn't choose to be born. We had zero control over that.

[@user-xj1fu8bd8m]

The bible is a Jewish book and makes it plain all will be saved because of what Christ did on the cross. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. I believe even so means in the same way as in Adam all die, in Christ shall all be made alive. As we know all things are possible with God, it is only in mans mind God is limited. Did God know what would happen before creation? Since he does and God is love and his mercy is for ever. ALL WILL BE SAVED

[@Rico11b]

What about the man who betrayed Jesus with a kiss? Judas Iscariot. He HAD TO betray Jesus. If he didn't then Jesus wouldn't have been taken that night. Was he born to be damned to hell because he was to betray Jesus??? So did he never believe Jesus was the true Messiah in the first place? Is that why he felt okay to betray him. But later he commits suicide, does that damn him to hell? Did God know he would commit suicide?

[@rickduker4969]

God used the unbeliever Judas in the same way he used the unbeliever Pharaoh to accomplish his plan of redemption.

[@Rico11b]

@@rickduker4969 Completely didn't answer the question.

[@rickduker4969]

Judas chose to turn Jesus in but it was in God's plan that he should do so. He wasn't a puppet on a string. For those who say that God is unfair with his predestination Paul says who are you to talk back to God? Sinful finite man cannot possibly understand God's infinite ways.

[@ronniegrove6620]

Romans 8:28-30

[@djparsons7363]

Rom. 8:28, 29: “We know that God makes all his works cooperate together for the good of those who love God, those who are the ones called according to his purpose; because those whom he gave his first recognition he also foreordained [“predestinated,” KJ] to be patterned after the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.” (Also Eph. 1:5, 11) Yet, to these same ones, 2 Peter 1:10 says: “Do your utmost to make the calling and choosing of you sure for yourselves; for if you keep on doing these things you will by no means ever fail.” (If the individuals were predestinated to salvation, they could not possibly fail, regardless of what they did. Since effort is required on the part of the individuals, it must be the CLASS that is foreordained. God purposed that the entire class would conform to the pattern set by Jesus Christ. Those selected by God to be part of that class, however, must prove faithful if they are actually to attain the reward set before them.) That "class" or group referred to is the 144,000 anointed Christians who will reside in Heaven as Kings and Priests in Christ's Kingdom.

[@ung0liant]

the internet arminian hate-train still going strong in 2024, I see. Don't you people have churches to go to instead of hanging out around here dogpiling on theology all day

[@danreich4320]

Count me as a happy member of the loyal opposition to the insanity called Calvinism. That such drivel could be pushed by so many “theologians” for so long shows how incredibly devious Satan is.

[@jonslagill8864]

calvinism is confusing to me.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

It should be because it's not Biblical, but demonic.

[@johnhenrick2298]

Don't accept Calvin's theology as if it were the Word of God. Many people follow this preacher or that preacher, whereas we should follow the Word of God, and pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Salvation isn't based on what Calvin says but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. Just consider Calvin's thinking as a matter of interest. What he thinks is not important to your personal salvation.

[@lisalopez857]

Exactly. It is confusing. But, most places I look say it is false doctrine. John MacArthur, Voddie Bacham and Justin Peters are all calvanist. I listen to them. They say so much good stuff. But, how can this be biblical when it was started by a man, John Calvin in the 16th century? It's not from God, it was started by a man.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@@lisalopez857 Those preachers say ((some)) good things, but none of Calvinism is good. Calvinism is demonic.

[@robmarshall956]

This line of thinking didn’t start with Calvin ??? What acid are you people dropping, this is Gods word expounded by Calvin as well as millions of others over time, if you are going to disagree actually put up what your exegesis is in difference to what rc or Begg or Ferguson is saying.

[@gregturk2824]

Did R.C.Sproul have the free will to give this lecture? Did he have the free will to write his books? If God directs everything as, as R.C. believes, then God caused him to write false statements in his books. But if God caused him to write true statements then R.C.Sproul’s words are just as authoritative as scripture, because R.C.’s words are Gods words. I hope people realize Calvinism is ridiculous, and it doesn’t honor God it makes Him out to be a monster in someone’s life because before they do anything, God has already condemned them.

[@allegory7638]

The sacrifice of Jesus Christ established the POTENTIAL that all could be saved. The willfullness of mankind ensures that not all will be saved. Hell will not be full of people that simply "messed up" or missed some opportunity. It will be full of people that simply wanted no relationship with God, so that Heaven would also be a most miserable place for them.

[@kennethmoore8126]

Perfectly stated, thank you. God Bless!

[@thegreatgazoo7579]

The idea that people do not want a relationship with a loving god is ridiculous. What people do not want is a relationship with an imaginary, impotent, make-believe phantom.

[@Vampyrekai]

Wrong. Read Romans. God does not leave salvation up to Chance. Chance doesn't exist.

[@allegory7638]

@@Vampyrekai You are confusing salvation with belief.

[@allegory7638]

@@thegreatgazoo7579 The idea that people will reject a relationship with someone that loves them is quite evident in our human relationships, I have had three friends, men that loved their wives, and said wives either had affairs or walked away from them.

[@bobvadney7240]

That's acute little....phrase....except for one thing.....ITS.....NOT ......IN.....SCRIPTURE......It's not....."..Sola....Scripture...." that ya always spouting off about......it's more like...." Black Board......colony...." aka....." Regeneration Precedes....Faith...." BS...!!!!!

[@user-xm9yd6rf4q]

Read Romans 3: 10 through 18 man on his own cannot and will not seek God of his own accord sorry pal

[@angloaust1575]

Its a marvel he saved any In the days of noah only Eight were!

[@daniel-qc9yb]

Calvinism = the bible speaks. Arminianism = man speaks personal opinions.

[@michaelesdohr7879]

Arguing over Calvinism is silly - John Calvin didn’t come up with Divine Election as outlined in Ephesians 1 & Romans 9 to be sure - The Father, Son & Holy Spirit did- Go ahead and argue with God if you wish but be sure of this one thing, it is futility at best !!

[@thegreatgazoo7579]

God doesn't have a KZbin channel, therefore one cannot know what he says or wants nor can one argue with him.

[@ToblikB688]

There are a number of Reformed preachers or ministries which are on target. RC Sproul is a great preacher, also John MacArthur and Justin Peters ministries. However Calvinism the doctrine is a interrelated birds nest of true and false doctrines emanating from Augustine, the arch Roman Catholic pagan institution protagonist. I recommend watching the videos from Beyond the Fundamentals by Kevin Thompson, who goes into this doctrine with great detail and clarity.

[@lisalopez857]

John MacArthur, Voddie Bacham and Justin Peters are all calvanist

[@michaelbeam3781]

The heart of Calvanism is Roman's 8 and 9. The teachings of the Apostle Paul. Scripture. If the truth hurts... go take it up with the author of the Bible. Stop blaming Calvin for something he didn't create. He isn't your problem. Scripture is. Or... maybe the truth is.

[@HonrbleMention]

Nope. Paul teaches justification by faith alone. Which means not your faith bcuz it's dead.

[@danadams494]

And if we refute Calvinism with scripture ?

[@HonrbleMention]

@danadams494 Calvin is a brilliant theologian who agreed with God, Gzus, Paul, the Prophets, the apostles-1 Augustine, Luther Edwards and Aquinas as does Sproul. Justification by faith alone. And that faith is not of ourselves but the gift of God. Understand?

[@HonrbleMention]

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[@Phil.2-10]

Sproul wraps his doctrine in nice words. Yet, his theology on Calvinism is a dangerously false doctrine. If what he says is true, then mission and evangelization would be futile since God saves an elected group anyway and the other would perish anyway.

[@HonrbleMention]

And you went to all seminary schools and colleges and were asked to speak at numerous schools too? Humanity is dead in sins and trespasses. Only God decides who will be quickened. That's RC Sproul. And you don't prefer it bcuz its not up to you.

[@user-nl8jg1jj7d]

I understand completely what you’re saying. I have said the same thing myself over the years, many many times. over the last 30 years, I have listened to many people on the subject. Charles, Stanley, David, Jeremiah, Adrian Rogers, John, MacArthur, and many others I can’t remember right now. at the current time I can relate best to what John MacArthur teaches. He is very big into sharing the gospel. I have always struggled with the idea that I could have control over somebody going to heaven or hell. I.E. Not sharing the gospel with somebody. I believe that God has always known who’s going to end up in heaven, only because he knows everything past present and future. I don’t believe it was Eeny Meeny, Miny Moe. He just knows everything. The great commission is somewhat of a mystery to me. All I know is God calls us to share the gospel to those he lays upon our heart to share with. I am never sharing the gospel more than I am right now. Daily, I share Gospel in many ways. I’m just going to do God Says and leave the rest up to him.

[@user-nl8jg1jj7d]

I have never shared the gospel more than I am right now. Correction

[@HonrbleMention]

@@user-nl8jg1jj7d anyone who says you're not in charge of your eternal destiny must be rejected. Right? Conditional salvation.

[@user-nl8jg1jj7d]

For example, right now I’m sitting in my truck sending this to you in about one minute. I’m going to turn on the CB radio and share the gospel.

[@user-ce3dy7fb4u]

Nowhere in the Holy Bible does it say 'repent of your sins' The thief on the cross was saved by his faith alone.

[@markchristman1076]

Limited atonement always seemed like an intellectual exercise. Just unnecessary of all the points of Calvinism. There are too many verses that are strongly against Calvinism. I believe there are things we cannot understand in this life.

[@elsamusoy]

Soli Deo Gloria. *But… Are you sure you are giving the glory to Him?* When you distort the character of God by making Him look more like Shiva (the Hindu god of destruction), than that God of incredible love, patience and mercy from the Bible; The One who commands you to love your enemies and forgive them always!… Are you giving Him glory? Because... friend, let's be honest. A “god” who creates billions of souls to be sent directly to hell, without any option to save… is an extremely cruel god. He is not the God of the Bible. When you tell a sinner that Jesus has only died for a tiny portion of humanity, and that it is very, very unlikely that he is among them; even though there are *several* texts in the Bible that claim that God sent His Son in ransom for humanity, because He doesn't want anyone to be lost... Are you giving glory to God? Sure? Could it not be... That in the most hidden and deep part of your heart you are giving glory to yourself? I will explain. One can easily feel special, even better than others, when he hears that he has been chosen by God. Because a “god” who sends people who are better than you to hell… doesn't make any sense, right? Without a doubt I must be better. No choice. God must have seen something special in me to not care about destroying billions of souls and staying with me. Because I take it for granted that you don't think that God saves his 4 chosen ones by lot, right? I hope not! But there is a big problem, that “god” who chooses for something he finds in the person, is not the God of the Bible. He is no respecter of persons (Romans 2:11). That is, He does not favor or lean toward some people more than others for any particular reason or affection. That is, for Him, you and all those who are going to end up in hell are exactly the same. Rebels. Sinners. Get this deep in your head. And repeat it to yourself, over and over again, until you really understand it. Because this is a serious matter. But it is true that the Bible speaks that we have been chosen. But then? Based on what? How can God choose without violating His character and not based on anything that is in man? Very easy. He opened the door of Eternal Life to *ALL of his creatures.* And he says *to ALL of us:* Do you want to enter with me? Those who freely answer “Yes” to that call, those whose answer He already knows before the foundation of the world, are His chosen ones. (Romans 8:29). And certainly this speaks to us of a God of immense love. Love far superior to the human one, who easily makes preferences. Let us be very careful, lest, pretending to give glory to God, we may be found liars. For the heart is wicked and deceitful above all things. (Jeremiah 17:9)

[@HonrbleMention]

Of course your correct. Conditional salvation. Justification by works. Got it.

[@elsamusoy]

@@HonrbleMention Come on! A heart answering to a calling of God is not a work.

[@HonrbleMention]

@elsamusoy anything or anyone that says you're not in control of your eternal destiny must be rejected, right? Let's see how biblically literate you are. What is the free gift Eph. 2, 8.

[@HonrbleMention]

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[@elsamusoy]

@@HonrbleMention Faith is not a work. Believe in God is not a work. It's common sense. Ephesians 2:8 says salvation is a gift from God. All we know that.

[@feargodandlive8352]

Listening to this man teach is possibly one of the closest substitutes for listening to the hard-hearted Pharisees in the first century teach! This man has spent so many years studying God's Word in colleges and other institutions of academic learning and yet he still possessed so little knowledge of the truth! This is because he did not have the intimacy with God that God most wanted for him. God was not mocked by the hypocrite Pharisees... And God was also not mocked by this hypocrite teacher! How preposterous! Teaching that the word "any" doesn't in fact mean "any," but rather means "any from some unnamed and unspoken but yet tacitly implied group"! Wickedness! There is nothing that can be done for RC Sproul anymore. God does command everyone everywhere to repent! That is true! But sadly this man likely never did because he was filled to overflowing with pride. God hates pride! And God hates workers of iniquity! And God hates false teachers who teach lies by distorting His Word! RC Sproul has been judged for His sins according to the truth of God's Word... even as able to be understood by a child... and not the philosophical and hypothetical meandering understandings of some modern-day Pharisee! Do not make the same mistakes as this man who thought himself smarter than God. Do not allow yourself to awake one day in hell because you trusted the teachings of modern-day Pharisees more than the teachings of God! Jesus is willing to forgive you all your sins, but He will not do so in a manner that is counter to His Word. Jesus will not forgive sin that is not first forsaken. Fear God, repent and live!

[@Frankwarren1960]

You have absolutely no idea what this man does or does not do in the presence of God…

[@feargodandlive8352]

@@Frankwarren1960 You speak as one who is a true disciple of RC Sproul! I have news for you... RC Sproul is dead! It would be better for you if you were a disciple of Jesus, because Jesus teaches that a tree is known by its fruit (see Matthew 12:33; Luke 6:44).

[@Frankwarren1960]

@@feargodandlive8352 I am not a disciple of RC Sproul. I am a Christian who follows our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I try to be gracious and loving in my comments. I wouldn’t dream of putting things in someone’s mind as you have done with RC. Sure, he has died in this world, but his teaching lives on. The same way our brothers from antiquity have left a legacy of teaching and their studies. It’s fine if you disagree with their conclusions, but it is not fine to be condescending in anyway…that is not fruit of the spirit.

[@feargodandlive8352]

@@Frankwarren1960 I have seen all too many of your type of "Christian". Why do you not acknowledge that your previous comment directly contradicted Scripture? Is that because in your mind, the only Scripture verses that are true are the ones that align with RC Sproul's faulty theology? Do you not know that opposing sin is loving? Am I your enemy because I tell you the truth?

[@Frankwarren1960]

@@feargodandlive8352 If you knew how to reason in love instead of hate and ridicule and insults, I may be interested in your arguments. Since you demonstrate no fruit of the spirit here, I must ignore your arguments. By the way, RC Sproul has nothing to do with my theology. The scripture is clear on salvation and how it comes about. It is a gift from God and not of yourself.

[@user-hw5pd1mv9b]

Limited atonement is not "controversial," it is heretical.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

God the Father 'limits' the atonement, John 6:37 and 17:2. God the Father is no heretic. But you are.

[@jayharry2237]

Have you not read 1 Peter 2? It clearly states that Christ's death and resurrection is a "stumbling block" to those who don't believe....ergo, His Atonement was of no use to those who are perishing.

[@user-hw5pd1mv9b]

@@arjancornelissen9634 Nice way for you to put God in a box in contravention to His own word. Scripture says Christ died for the sins of the world. The standard Calvinist explanation of that fact does nothing but call God a liar. Calvinists play that same game with all of the "universal" passage, but fails to explain them away. I find it funny when a man claiming to be a Christian, who denigrates the Christ's work, calls God a liar, wants to be known as a Christian. Those two passages do not mean what you think they mean. All you have done is engage in proof texting. That is not hermeneutics. God, by any definition, is not a heretic. But, you Manichaeans are.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

@@jayharry2237 Amen! That is also what Hebrews is all about: limited atonement.

[@Brotheral-pb1oj]

Please do not be deceived by this false teacher. All are called to repentance. Whosoever will, shall be saved!

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

The problem for the lost is that they don’t want to be saved .

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

They really love their lifestyles .

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

Even talking about a holy creator makes them uncomfortable .

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

It’s embarrassing and repugnant to them .

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

They are spiritually dead in trespasses and sin .

[@thegreatgazoo7579]

Sproul again gives no satisfactory answer to why God does not save everyone.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

The answer is Romans 9:22-23 but you don't like that answer...

[@thegreatgazoo7579]

@@arjancornelissen9634 Correct, because it is no answer at all. Saying that God does what he does, is not explaining why he does anything, its saying "don't ask, its not your place to know.' So why does Sproul even discuss it? Why bring up questions he is not going to answer? So that you can quote the bible and tell everyone to just shut up and not question God?

[@jipped18]

​@thegreatgazoo7579 God already said "my ways are not yours". You aren't Job. You get what you get. Either God has to get lucky with 8 billion free wills or he's in charge

[@thegreatgazoo7579]

@@jipped18 Then it doesn't matter what I think or do, does it? And Sproul does not explain why God does what he does, which was my point. Saying that I get what I get is not explaining why.

[@jipped18]

@@thegreatgazoo7579 You sure? I thought your thoughts and free will matters to God? "Take your thoughts captive to obey Christ" etc. You don't have an argument, you lack understanding instead.

[@jimpowell2296]

Calvinism is wrong. God offers salvation to everyone through His Son Jesus Christ. God gave each of us free will to make decisions.

[@jayharry2237]

Can a biological man choose to become a biological woman?

[@claudemarais9013]

So your free will is sovereign above God's will? Not according to the bible

[@qwobbydialogue7920]

SO how do we interpret John 6:44

[@user-dn8cy3ql4e]

Yes, read John 6 and John 10.

[@lovealways2609]

​@@qwobbydialogue7920they won't reply to that Holy scripture, because it is too clear and unambiguous

[@steveroth8441]

Amen to that Bobby, Calvinism is so wrong.

[@arjancornelissen9634]

"From that time (when Jesus preached His tulip theology) MANY of His disciples went back (playing harmonica like Bobby) and walked with Him no more..." (read John chapter six) but, according to you, what Jesus Christ teaches in that chapter and elsewhere, is SO WRONG. No sir, you're the one who is SO WRONG! And you're in the majority 🎉 Congratulations with that... 😞

[@HonrbleMention]

Explain why please. In a short form.

[@ernestojlassus1354]

Pelagianism is demonic.

[@ernestojlassus1354]

How is it wrong?

[@HonrbleMention]

@@ernestojlassus1354 they don't know.

[@brucekuijpers7754]

Limited atonement and eternal soul torture, horrendous misreprentation of God.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

True about the first part.

[@user-fc2zb9po8t]

@@bobbyadkins6983No he’s fully correct.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

@@user-fc2zb9po8t Jesus called hell an everlasting punishment and a fire that shall never be quenched. You can twist it all you want, but I'm going to believe what Jesus said.

[@user-fc2zb9po8t]

@@bobbyadkins6983 Twist what? Jesus didn’t speak English you know? Actually, if you know how to read and decifer ancient Greek you’d know the word hell and everlasting were not in the Greek lexicon. Actually Jesus spoke about Gehenna 12 times not hell. And everlasting or eternal weren’t even concepts in that time. They were aionis or aeon meaning “age” and refer to a specific aeon, epoch or season. Although translated “eternal” and “everlasting”, they simply do not mean forever and ever.

[@user-fc2zb9po8t]

@@bobbyadkins6983 Simple historical and linguistic facts are “twisting” to you? Sounds like you might be an avid CNN watcher??

[@art333-dg8dd]

this guy talks a lot but is wrong a lot ,if you want to know the truth read the bible , dont trust these popular false teacher that twist the truth

[@djparsons7363]

Sproul was a false preacher of lies and pagan doctrines that will never save anyone. Believing lies will only lead to condemnation.

[@HonrbleMention]

Anyone who says you're not in charge of your destiny must be rejected. Conditional salvation. Right?