Why doesn't God stop rape?

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#Morality #Relativism #Evil

[@millyesther9959]

Please pray that my childrens abusers are caught and stopped very soon.

[@avivacious]

Please cover your children with the blood of Jesus everyday and ask God to heal them..and yes watch over them and do not entrust them with shady people. Do not fret over those evil men for God will judge the culprits..so leave everything in His Hands ! You only need to focus on Jesus and your responsibility as a parent now ! Praying for comfort, healing, restoration, retribution, peace and love for you and your children no matter what you are going through..remember Jesus is with you always..!!! Amen..!

[@millyesther9959]

@@avivacious my three year old kept coming home asking me for help and after seeking out cps, police, and even seeing a forensic nurse due to anal bleeding and swollen hurt privates still no one would help me protect my children. At a loss I taught my child to call out to Jesus for help. She came home and described her dad sexually molesting her despite calling on Jesus for help out loud. I taught her to sing praises. She told me her dad put her naked on his bed and molested her while singing holy holy holy lord God all mighty. In fact, she would never sing that song with me again without crying. The courts and officels are inept at best and corrupt at worst. My childrens current suffering be on all their heads in Jesus name.

[@millyesther9959]

@@avivacious mostly details just make people turn away, I want nothing other than prayers, though my faith is failing

[@pdxnikki1]

Milly Esther 🙏

[@TomDutch]

😢🙏

[@RodieOsc]

“If God wanted to take all evil in the world, he would start with me and you” I had chills down my spine

[@princeothello4153]

That’s the Holy Spirit prompting you to believe John 3:16, Acts 2:38 and Romans 10:9-10, New King James Version.

[@TheLightShines]

Amen

[@w.8424]

So let me get this straight what he says at 0:40 God sees the end from the beginning (the rape before it occurs) and sometimes 'let's things LIKE RAPE AND MURDER' run their course and actually bring good from the rape and murder of millions of people. Do you believe that God has allowed the rape of people to happen because he has seen something good that could come out of them?

[@yakov7346]

ZE RO of course

[@paulrock4816]

And Apostle Paul.

[@codeblood2000]

The man simply refuses to accept the responsibility of FREE WILL... and wants to blame God for the actions of humans.

[@atheistskeptic8748]

Lol ya that has to be it forget all the other things wrong with it lets blame the inferior individual who isn't smart enough to understand like you are so lucky enough to

[@mikeramos91]

Zeke Bean except you were free to write that

[@codeblood2000]

@@atheistskeptic8748 it doesn't require amazing intellect to figure out the simplicity of free will one just have to accept the reality and responsibility of it.

[@atheistskeptic8748]

@@codeblood2000 If a god exists then and sits backs and watchs a rape and does nothing to stop it then yes it's his fault. He is immoral for seeing it and doing nothing. Has nothing to do with free will it's has to do with moral responsibility.

[@atheistskeptic8748]

@@codeblood2000 But like I was saying in my other post the real argument is getting missed here. If a man rapes a women and then asks for forgiveness and follows godly life he goes to heaven and if that rape destroys her mentally and turns her away from god she goes to hell for a rape god allowed to happen. That is a messed up disgusting system no matter how you try and spin it and is even more disgusting you expect people to believe in this backwards corrupt system.

[@mannyman1012]

This is called a logical contradiction. Man wants freewill from God, yet when another man uses his free will to it's extreme men blame God. You cannot have another being control you and then turn around a claim you want free will

[@1huguardswizely908]

Well, there'd have to be a God to blame.

[@1huguardswizely908]

@LSmoove 79 Why should I care what the Bible says?

[@nasibjadon7886]

@@1huguardswizely908 why are you here then go to other video that talks about god's existence

[@hululuowo9860]

The free will of others can stop my free will. God doesn’t need to take away free will to stop something morally evil. If I want to do something bad and a cop stops me, do I lose my free will? No. So stop making excuses for god and hold them accountable.

[@mcw0261]

@@hululuowo9860 actually you do lose your free will. That's the point of laws and prisons and slavery. Man can take the free will away from other men. But it is not God's design for Men to be ruled by each other, but for us to serve each other and selflessness. That's the true humanity that God is gathering. And all those who agree with that way of life will live as such in heaven for ever. There is a day appointed to rid the earth of all evil. And unless you let God work in you and change you, you may find yourself on the wrong side. Because we are all guilty of some form of evil. Even you.

[@Blessed.2.Teach.4God]

Kid did a good job pressing the question, but the answer remains pretty simple. *Earthly Free Will = Sin* *Guaranteed Perfection = No Free Will* *True Love/Authenticity Requires Free Will*

[@zanlam2476]

...did a good job making the question as difficult as possible? He seemed to be genuine what are you talking about?

[@Blessed.2.Teach.4God]

@@zanlam2476 Don't be so eager for confrontation, I never said he wasn't genuine... I just simply inferred his persistence & varying angles to the question. In fact I even said he did a "good job" testing Frank with what is usually a pretty standard question for him. All Be Blessed, Glory To God.

[@JeramyRG]

Do you believe we have total knowledge of all possible morality? Could he have given free will in a reality with different sin?

[@Blessed.2.Teach.4God]

@@JeramyRG Forgive me; I don't understand the purpose of the question, either that or I don't fully understand the question..

[@JeramyRG]

@@Blessed.2.Teach.4God I didn't think you would. 😊 Much love brother.

[@fractalizedspiritz]

free will? but now I have to suffer because god wanted to give some terrible human free will.. as a survivor of SA.. i’m tired of this argument. there’s no amount of free will that make this fair.

[@alexispage9388]

May God reveal you wisdom to answer your questions. May He give you light, hope and peace in your life that surpasses your understanding today, and may your testimony give hope to other victims out there that struggle with other people's sin. In Jesus Name, Amen. I love you, sister. Be strong and don't be blinded by your anger. You're a warrior on this one and God knows how strong you are. May you find rest. Peace, be with you.💕

[@pariah825]

"If you know somebody who is experiencing a tragedy, you don't need to say anything, you just need to go there and be there with them". Excellent advice, I've always struggled with what to say when someone experiences a horrible tragedy, but I suppose all they need from me is for me to be there for them.

[@davidcarter3830]

Too bad God wasn't.

[@pariah825]

@@davidcarter3830 Obvious petty bait.

[@davidcarter3830]

@@pariah825 Based on you're petty mind.

[@JonathanSmith-kz2jo]

That only holds for humans because most humans are not trained and experienced enough to be able to directly help and/or save someone from that pain. This is not the case with the Abrahamic God, who is believed to be omnipotent and omniscient and thus it is not justifiable for this God not to stop something a like a rape from happening by choosing only to “be there for them”, precisely because they are effortless capable of doing the former, more beneficial deed.

[@pazuzil]

Because the free will of the rapist is more important than the free will of his victim?

[@souvikguha]

According to rape loving "God"

[@hellepost1439]

DarkMatter2525 How GOD favors EVIL‼️ (and created INCEST)

[@nori_tutor]

You just destroyed Frank's argument lol

[@LisaSpirito87]

God bless frank, he does such a good job at keeping his emotions in control while answering people who are emotionally immature

[@leonpope861]

That is so true 🤭😏🤔

[@urasam2]

See my comment elsewhere. Frank is emotionally bankrupt and should not be allowed near children.

[@jeffchristie9561]

Usually. He got a bit uptight when the Atheist - Agnostic was questioning & arguing, in another production ...

[@jeffchristie9561]

He gets a little bit terse in this production toward the end, as the Questioner persists ...

[@prissy240]

@@jeffchristie9561 its because time was running out(as he said) and he needed to answer other's questions

[@youtubecensors5419]

That kid should ask an even more specific question: "Why hasn't God ever stopped me from sinning?" I'm sure he'd be able to figure it out on his own in a few minutes.

[@leonpope861]

Amen 🤭🤓😏. But he worships at church of Jean Jacques Rousseau and Pelagius!🙃😴

[@DavidSmith-ci9wc]

Right! Doesn't seem like Batman cares for God all that much.

[@princeothello4153]

That’s be because we compare ourselves with others. A rapist is evil. I don’t rape so compared to him I’m a “good” person. We don’t recognize our own sin when we take God’s name in vain when we use His son Jesus Christ’s name in vain or we pepper our language with foul and obscene four letter words.

[@TheLightShines]

@@princeothello4153 so true

[@loveofgod9823]

What you want to tell about genocide of Jews 😅

[@milenatos]

What a lame excuse...He is omnivalent, why can't he just bring good without torturing the raped child? Either he is NOT omnivalent OR he is a brutal sadist

[@Kadbros]

The person who asked the question had a lot on his heart, I hope it has been sufficiently resolved

[@cujoenyo]

doubt it with this BS answer

[@tonizargari9718]

Doubtful

[@jg122487]

I'm struggling with this question. I'm on a mission to be closer to God. I don't want anything separating myself from him. I've realized the resentment at the thought that he allowed me to be raped is in fact challenging this hope. I'm in prayer hoping for some answer that will remove this from me....it's hard to trust anyone that let you be raped.

[@juliebella1221]

Don't trust him. It's the buy bull. Washing of the feet is a Hebrews euphamism for intimate organs and JeZeus/Jesus washed all his disciples feet. It's why Ruth uncovered Boaz feet, they had intimate relations. It's why God aka Satan promised to bruise/brews/hebrews the heel/feet - intimate organs and he has kept his promised. How many are born non identifying and binary due to this promise through genesis/genetics - gene/genie in a bottle. It's why they end the gross book the buy bull with the gross pun come lord jezeus come quickly into all the lilies of the field and breed your tares. Old bull testament/testiees/new bull testament/testiees. Our Fat Her who art/image in heaven hallowed/halloween be thy name thy king dome come (intimate way) thy will be done (who else says do what thou wilt?) It's not over until the Fat Laddy/lady sings. The bearded laddie. Je means son of Zeus. I am so VERY VERY VERY VERY SORRY that was allowed to happen to you. NO ONE EVER DESERVES THAT! I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Big Hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are thought of. You are loved.

[@RyanHarville]

It's not an easy topic to answer as life isn't easy to live. You've heard what Doctor Turek mentioned about how good can come from it and how that if God stopped all evil it wouldn't be a free world anymore. There is no love in control. With that being said, it's also in scripture that every sin will be paid for by the time we die. And that God avenges us as well. Every second we have the choice to do right and wrong and God expects us to choose right every step of the way. He does punish those who choose evil and rewards those who choose good, but it is also said that rain is sent on the believers and the sinners. These things happen, but don't let this close your heart to Him. Also, that person above me... I have no idea what nonsense they are saying except the last part.

[@juliebella1221]

@@RyanHarville It's not nonsense. Dude, you just proved my point for me. God only protects the free will of the perps not the free will of the girl who said NO. Of the little boy who said NO. JeZeus is how you say his name in Spanish. It's about phonetics and homophones not the spelling. If you read the Bible in Greek, Hebrews and Aramaic you'd see the English translation is an OUT RIGHT LIE. Washing of the feet is a euphamism for intimate relations and JeZeus washed all his disciples feet. If you understood Hebrew you'd already know this, hence the verse "bruise you heel." Means I will bruise your private parts through genetic manipulation hence why it's called genesis. Again it's why Ruth uncovered Boaz feet - they mated. And Mary washed JeZeus' feet so he's bi. The BIble. It's why Christians are so laughed at by people who know other languages - you babble prayers and you don't know what you're really saying. It's the Fat Her/father. It's not over until he fat lady/laddie sings. When the seven bros all assaulted one woman through man's law of marriage, did JeZeus say how dare you use man's law to repeatedly assault her I sentence you to hell? NOPE, he said you can't assault her anymore when she's dead. What did JeZeus WHO HATES WOMEN promise them? "Don't cry for me but cry for yourselves as you will want mountains to fall on you and envy breasts that don't give suck." That's premeditated mass murder and assault for centuries. He KNOWINGLY LEFT WOMEN TO SUCH A FATE. He's no hero at all. Any person on this Earth if they've been here long enough suffered way more than him. Was he ever trafficked for years, assaulted as a young boy, broke even one bone, starved for years? You need to wake up and smell the bull you're believing. You ever ask yourself why God aka Satan of the Buy Bull required 250,000 foreskins? How you can't see the evil in the Gods of this book is beyond me. God himself said to assault women and young girls in your book. "Take a girl or two as your prize to do with as you like." Your God also admits in the buy bull he "made both good and evil." Your God in your book fully admits he's the evil in the world and still you won't believe it. He tells you himself. Is. 45:7 "I FORM THE LIGHT AND CREATE DARKNESS, I MAKE PEACE AND CREATE EVIL, I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS." It's comical that you call it nonsense when you don't have the basic sense to read. Mary was in her old age just like Elizabeth when she got pregnant in the bull, but they push the young virgin to be allowed through God/aka man's law to assault young girls. "And, behold, thy cousin Elizabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren." Luke 1:36 If you actually read the book cover to cover and not got your knowledge by idiots like this pod caster you'd know that all by yourself. Actually read the book cover to cover and you will see how evil your God truly is and how he only protects his ilk and not the good. Free will is only for the evil ones here, if free will was for everyone, then assault wouldn't happen because free will of the victim would save them if they actually had it. God protects evil and then gets to harm more because now he gets to be "justified" in punishing the evil ones and the cycle never stops. What he should've done is protect his human daughters when "certain men crept in unawares and did TAKE them wives whomever they chose." If God didn't adore assault he would've kept his original daughters safe. If God was strong at all he would've kept them safe. You give excuse to a monster. Do you realize that? What if you were God and you saw women doing nothing wrong which the book clearly states, so no fault of their own, and you saw men rip women in two, kill all your original male creation, and breed your daughters with abominations. So you're saying as God you'd just let it happen as this God you warship did? Why did he allow the first victim in the first place? Think logically please. Be well and take care. :)

[@harshalshamdasani4593]

God bless

[@julienielsen3746]

No. He's wrong about that. God is against rape. But, we do need to pray and ask God to protect us. That is why things like that happen. We need to allow God to do things for us. Yes. We have our part to do. God created a universe with no evil. But, the arch angel Lucifer who was created perfect, as it says in Ezekiel 28:15- Iniquity was found in him. - Lucifer tried to make himself be a god. God had to cast him out of Heaven before Lucifer ruined it. He was then called satan "the adversary". When satan talked Eve and Adam into disobeying God, and instead obeying satan. That was when satan had the amount of authority over the earth that God had given to Adam, transferred to him, by Adam's disobedience. That was when evil came upon the earth. God did not create evil. - God can't force man to not do evil, because of satan's authority over the earth. God can't destroy satan now because if He did, many people who will still be willing to receive Jesus and be saved, would be lost, and end up in hell. Satan will be destroyed when the time is right. There are a lot of babies that were aborted that would have done good things. Those things were not done because they were aborted. Yes, Pray and allow Jesus to give you His peace in your heart/spirit, and your mind. His perfect peace. God loves you as much as He loves Jesus. He wants you whole and wants to Bless you in every area of your life. Trust in His love for you. And resist satan from stealing your peace.

[@SK-bw2cv]

For many no reason is good enough. They will just say no to God because they do not want God.

[@fernandocabrera6707]

A lot will blame God for what happens to them, whether it be rape, cancer, family members murdered, etc..

[@bbrantley26]

If it means the deity in the bible then yeah no thanks. Anybody with half a brain wouldn't want that to be true.

[@SK-bw2cv]

@@fernandocabrera6707 we all have trouble in life. What matters is who we go to for help. Do we do this on our own or with help of God? Pride tell us we can do it by ourself.

[@fernandocabrera6707]

@@SK-bw2cv Some can't do it alone, not everyone is that strong, mentally

[@SK-bw2cv]

@@fernandocabrera6707 none of us can do it alone. That's the thing.

[@estuchedepeluche2212]

I worked as a psychologist at a battered children shelter and domestic violence prevention program for years. This I know: rape, abuse, neglect, and violence can utery destroy people, and little good comes from that. I saw so many otherwise happy young people succumb to addiction, depression, mental breakdowns, institutionalization, and all kinds of self-destructive behavior including suicide linked to trauma. Sure, there were some instances of recovery and ok outcomes, through an immense and painful amount of work and care, but in so many cases no greater good came from that trauma. In his arguments, Frank is incredible insensitive, tonedef, and, to an extent, utterly cruel.

[@JMRabil675]

god is the one who is cruel in reality, Frank is just short sighted on this subject

[@icarojose6316]

What do you mean by Frank is incredible insensitive, tonedef, and, to an extent, utterly cruel., could you elaborate a little bit more. And tell me how did you get to that conclusion ?

[@estuchedepeluche2212]

@@icarojose6316 Franks says that since God can see the outcome, it is ok for Him to just watch rape happen and not intervene, because some good will come from it, but as I comment previously, no good comes from sexual violence. Franks also says that if God were to stop acts of evil, we wouldn't live in a moral world, and then goes to say "my philosophical answer would not give confort to the victims of violence". It seems to me that Frank prefers a "moral world" so her can be the a "philosopher" rather than confront evil and immorality.

[@thegreeneyedbubu]

@@estuchedepeluche2212 Turek answered your objections here thoroughly in the video.

[@estuchedepeluche2212]

@@thegreeneyedbubu Sure.

[@bobbyflips4555]

I don’t get how you people can say free will. Where’s the free will of the child, the victim how did they willingly allow that to happen. You all just sound like rape apologist

[@hellepost1439]

DarkMatter2525 How GOD favors EVIL‼️

[@lamhmmmhuynh637]

If God would to stop or destroy all evil in this world. Careful, He might start with you.

[@InitialPC]

i mean if i had the choice to have god save the world but i have to die for it to happen.. WORTH IT

[@lamhmmmhuynh637]

@@InitialPC Yeah. But you got to be sinless in order to be the sacrifice lamb, only Jesus is sinless

[@InitialPC]

@@lamhmmmhuynh637 if god destroys all evil and the evil in me, wouldnt that leave whatever is left of me as sinless?

[@diyalim8567]

@@messyadulthood Why can't God just forgive us without torturing his own son? This is such a perverse way of showing he loves "us".

[@goldschool9050]

God created everyone that's evil. He created everything.

[@christopher7725]

This is a horrific apologetic. Why should we punish any rape or sin if it just results in a greater good? Why send a guy to jail for raping a guy if it leads more people to Jesus? If he hadn’t raped, presumably, all those people wouldn’t get saved right? Or would they? And God has intervened in free will and prevented sinning before. “Then God said to him in the dream, “Yes, I know that in the integrity of your heart you have done this, and I also kept you from sinning against Me; therefore I did not let you touch her.” ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭20‬:‭6‬

[@bellabong8862]

What's so great about free will anyway? What would be so bad about sentient creatures not having the capacity to do evil, only good and enjoy living in a world where suffering from the negative exercise of free will didn't exist? Seems like God created his own god (free will) and chose to be absolutely subject to it no matter what, despite knowing that it would result in untold horrors and great harm to humans, animals, and the earth. The young man asked a valid and logical question which imho was not satisfactorily answered. I am a truth seeker and am neither an atheist nor a Bible believer. I can't believe things that simply don't make sense, no matter how much I would like to believe them. It feels to me that the majority of commenters here applaud rhe preacher because they want to believe, not because his answer was actually a good one. Don't mean to offend anyone. I think everyone has the right to believe whatever they want as long as their beliefs don't harm innocent beings. It's interesting to ponder questions and answers about life, but wihhout concrete proof, it's all just beliefs. I personally feel we should all respect each others' beliefs.

[@Charlotte_Martel]

I feel exactly as you do on this matter. Apparently, the cliché Christian response is "But without Free Will, our love for God would be forced." However, with the threat of hell, isn't it already forced? Love given under threat isn't free and isn't truly love. If that's the case, then why not remove free will altogether to avoid horrific acts of evil?

[@bellabong8862]

@@Charlotte_Martel 100% agree with you, Charlotte.

[@DavidRobledo22]

I used to ask these same type of questions. I personally have come to the conclusion that It's not God that sits back and allows these things, It's the body of believers....if we were doing our part in our reach of people, we could probably prevent people from becoming rapists, murderers, thieves etc etc. But most pastors preach a feel good message and most church goers never mention God outside the 4 wall building they attend every Sunday.

[@leonpope861]

Excellent Observation 🤭

[@freespirit7450]

They do it behind close doors where no one can see. Stop blaming christians for the evil in the world.

[@DieHarder4ever]

I do. But people refuse to listen.

[@astitvasharma6172]

exactly its the individual bodies and brains No god exists

[@clonnlijinhlong2713]

So...because some of us are ignorant. A child get raped and is justified because WE are not doing enough to let the rapist know God.

[@danieldancer4065]

people always trying to blame God lol

[@somethinglikeanonymous1773]

Daniel Dancer but give him credit when things goes well.

[@danieldancer4065]

@subtracted why are you on this channel if you aren't interested then

[@bbrantley26]

Looking for someone to actually answer a question and provide evidentiary support for there beliefs is a more accurate summation.

[@somethinglikeanonymous1773]

Daniel Dancer so the comments here should all jus be a echo chamber? If what you believe it 100% you should be open to debate.

[@bbrantley26]

@@somethinglikeanonymous1773 you know damn good and well ol Danny boy ain't up for debate. If he did respond it would only be to say his piece and then he'd burn off and never respond anymore just like everyone of 'em. We know they dont like to be questioned too much.

[@jusappia1580]

That’s a hard question and I emphasize with all the victims. Only the God’s grace can heal and comfort the victims. God bless Dr. Turek for the answer

[@MichaelMcCallister097]

Unless the victims are of any other belief than Christianity, then they have the misfortune of being raped, and then going to hell for eternity to suffer alongside the rapist. Brilliant.

[@infinitewisdom4557]

Haha 😄.

[@petertaylor1587]

How a world with God would look like? - People are free to do whatever they want because they have free-will; - Innocent people will suffer for reasons we cannot understand. How a world without God would look like? - People are free to do whatever they want; - Innocent people will suffer for no reason.Are we just trying to force what we see to match what we believe?

[@evidentone9teen259]

"There's no such thing as truth!" The Post-modernist states his view, But if truth doesn't exist, How can his statement be true??? "You cannot know the truth!" The Agnostic starts to moan, But if he denies the knowledge, How can his claim be known??? "We should be doubtful of everything!" The Skeptic states outright flat, But that includes his skeptical claim, Should we be doubtful of that??? "You have your truth, I have mine!" The Relativist makes a huge fuss, But if that relates only to him, Why does he apply it to us??? "All beliefs are equally true!" The Pluralist shouts outloud strong, If my beliefs say they're not, Would he not say I'm wrong??? "You ought not judge peoples beliefs!" The Progressive gets up in my face, If my belief says judgments are fine, Why is he judging mine a disgrace??? "All truth comes from science!" A Materialist professes to the youth, But that's a philosophical claim, Does it not fail his standard for truth??? "Everything is meaningless!" The Nihilist makes a mad scene, But if meaning is truly dead, I wonder what does he mean??? Test every idea against its own standard, Beware of self-refuting philosophy, Some saw off the branch on which they sit, Basing themselves on paradoxical hypocrisy. Follow the Law of Non-contradiction, Not beliefs which deny their own base, For many are content to sit in the lap, Of that which they slap in the face.

[@evidentone9teen259]

For more rhymes, visit the Poetry Playlist on my Channel. God bless 🙏

[@mylucidadventures6540]

agnostic is the believe that you can not know truth not the assertion buddy

[@mylucidadventures6540]

and nihilism is the believe that nothing matters not the assertion that nothing matters if anyone asserts these things they are wrong but at the end of the day a believe that isent a assertion is not a self refuting argument.

[@theterminator8854]

Jesus Saves12321 but how does the agnostic know that truth? I think that is the question

[@mylucidadventures6540]

@@theterminator8854 its not a know its a believe if i said i know you cant know truth i would be claiming to be agnostic well speaking like a gnostic its nonsensical

[@BridgetWalker-xu8sw]

Because he likes to watch and condones it.

[@zds-uc4kk]

The most frustrating thing about every Cross Examined video is the fact that the outro music sounds like it's building to an insane drop, but then stops before the climax.

[@bryanjohnson3082]

Amazing how people think they can judge the Almighty God. On judgement day the tables will be turned and the Judge will judge you.

[@KZSoze]

Bryan Johnson Maybe your god shouldn’t have made people in his image and have then exhibit the same characteristics he has, then punish them for it. If people behaved like your god, even part of the time they’d be in jail, have their children taken away, or be deemed evil monsters. Lastly, consider that if your god is all knowing and all powerful and all is his will, then so must be the rape. There’s no mental gymnastics one can perform that makes the god of the Bible moral by any civilized societal standards. There are however a few places in the Middle East where this ideology fits right in.

[@bryanjohnson3082]

@@KZSoze let's see if you talk that bold when you stand before him.

[@minatoarisato2012]

@@KZSoze "all is his will". Where'd you get that idea?

[@bbrantley26]

@@bryanjohnson3082 stand before who?

[@KZSoze]

@@bryanjohnson3082 Live in fear.. sounds like the ever loving message of a peaceful being.

[@bigospig]

I have much more respect for those who simply say, "I refuse to obey God" than I do those who say, "I'm too smart to believe in a god" or spend all their time coming up with silly questions they believe refute God.

[@gregdiprinzio9280]

I know what you mean, and agree. The hubris of the professional mockers is outrageous and a sign of the end.

[@gregdiprinzio9280]

Remember when atheists considered it a proof of the sincerity of their non-belief by never talking about God? Those atheists will stand up at the last judgment and condemn these. It's staggering to me that these atheists cannot see that the more light they have, the more they see God's purposes and understand his plan, the more culpable they are and the greater Wrath must come upon them. In the end, they will have nearly the light that Lucifer had, and go to his place without possibility for pardon for that very reason.

[@gregdiprinzio9280]

@Dao Way Well, God has proven it to me, but its not sharable proof, by design.

[@gregdiprinzio9280]

@Dao Way The statement, " all Buddhists, Muslims and Hindus feel the same" is problematic, and more untrue than true. He who knows the thoughts and intentions of the heart will judge, and His judgement is just. IF Christianity helps me connect...?

[@robertlewis9132]

I have much more respect for those who do not rely on a bunch of imagined nonsense to make it through life. Those who fear reality need to believe some imagined supernatural concoction to overcome their fear. Strong people can accept our human limitations and frailties yet still survive. Plus those who simply believe stuff are the type who are susceptible to follow a charismatic personality right up to their own destruction. Jim Jones, david koresch, donald trump and adolph hitler are but a few examples of personalities that have enthralled nonthinking believer types. Evangelicals use believer type personalities to personally enrich themselves. And believers have been sucked in by such charlatans throughout history, and likely will be for millennia to come. Such is the frailty of the believer type mind.

[@soioioioioioio34]

Just remember boys and girls he stood by and watched the whole thing. 😢😂

[@zaniiyamcintosh2076]

This is like saying “God made me do it because He gave me free will” 🤔 Free will= Choice!

[@Somtejesstudios]

Yes

[@keew343]

What about the victim? Wheres her free will?

[@Somtejesstudios]

@@keew343 she has it

[@keew343]

@@Somtejesstudios in that situation?

[@Somtejesstudios]

@@keew343 no

[@crusaderforchrist5859]

Are questions like this really coming from a sincere heart? A heart that is seeking God? No, I don't believe it is.

[@atheistskeptic8748]

Questions like this should be asked to expose the flawed twisted thinking of Christianity.

[@itsJPhere]

Someone who is seeking a god has already decided to believe in a god, they are already biased to find only the evidence that confirms their belief and any evidence that doesn't confirm their bias is ignored.

[@atheistskeptic8748]

@@itsJPhere very well put

[@gregdiprinzio9280]

@@atheistskeptic8748 Except the question exposed the opposite. And don't you believe in the freedom of religion? Why don't you move out of this country?

[@gregdiprinzio9280]

@@itsJPhere And those who don't seek God... So, you admit you're not here to seek God?

[@user-pf3zw5sl8o]

Do you (as an unbeliever) want God stopping you every time you are about to do something sinful? Didn't think so.

[@mikeramos91]

1クール exactly! When God doesn’t stop evil unbelievers get mad. When God does stop evil unbelievers get mad 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@atheistskeptic8748]

@@mikeramos91 Yes I have heard Thiest make this argument but never answer the real question being asked. Maybe you have enough integrity to answer it and not deflect it. I have no issues if with the book saying god sent men to kill men for whatever reason. The problem I have is why would he tell them kill the baby boys and girls who are no longer virgins but the virgin women keep for yourself? Why is it moral to kill a women who had and kill babies that are males but keep the virgins?

[@texasdude7355]

@@atheistskeptic8748 I'm calling bull. Is that really a sincere question? Really? Sounds like one more page from 'an atheists guide on how to attack Christianity.' If you were truly interested in serving God and learning about him you would come to him by faith and believe and let God explain the why's to you afterwards.

[@texasdude7355]

@@atheistskeptic8748 I don't think you are truly interested in following Christ. You just choose not to believe.

[@atheistskeptic8748]

@@texasdude7355 well that is a pretty bold insertion. What evidence do you have to warrant a belief?

[@kespeth2]

Because he doesn't exist. CASE CLOSED.

[@pencintahewan234]

no you just being ignorant here. Just because you couldn't understand Him, that doesn't mean He doesn't exist. that means you're fooling youself.

[@soioioioioioio34]

​@@pencintahewan234 😢 cope 😢 Cope

[@AttRandyReynolds]

This argument eventually goes to the question: is God all-powerful or not? If God is all-powerful, if he can make night into day or, make a world were certain human emotions simply do not exist or for that matter, other emotions do exist. And if that is the case then God could have created a world were there is no need for humans to experience pain.

[@AttRandyReynolds]

@Saint Michael Pray for Us So you are under the viewpoint that if an all-powerful God removed pain then there would be no way we could have free will? You are saying that God is limited in ability to changing only what we are as humans, and what the world is environmentally.

[@AttRandyReynolds]

@Saint Michael Pray for Us Let me ask you something... We need air to keep us alive. If suddenly there were no air, could God make it possible for humans to live with no need of air or is that beyond his abilities?

[@rickydevmj]

@@AttRandyReynolds God can do anything which is logically possible. So I think that it is not logically possible to have a world without sin and with free will

[@AttRandyReynolds]

@Ricky Dev So you are stating that God is restricted to what we perceive as logical. How does that work with an entity that allegedly created the universe and exists outside of time and space? Or do you not believe that?

[@rickydevmj]

@@AttRandyReynolds it is true that god created the universe and exist outside of space and time, no objections there. All the logical rules which we perceive resides in the mind of god

[@DemocratsareagentsofSATAN]

I'm really tired of these people who are just trying to ask "gotcha" questions.... this kid is just searching for a reason to hate God...instead of searching for a reason to believe in Him

[@seadog2969]

No, he's asking a fair question about a god that says it's good and just, but admits to creating evil and allows it to happen. Where it is claimed a thing has a certain characteristic, but demonstrates condradictory characteristics, it's fair to question it. If I sold you a car and said it's in tip top shape, but it immediately breaks down after you drive it off the lot, then you'd be correct to question my characterization. Nothing Frank says actually answers the question. Instead, he presents an observation: "in time, some good things may happen from evil acts." That's not an answer as to why evil it is allowed. It's just a statement that some people may benefit from evil acts.

[@DavidSmith-ci9wc]

Period.

[@AlexGarcia-lp6mb]

@@seadog2969 Evil happens because humans have the knowledge of good and bad and God grants us freewill Evil happens because we have freewill that is your answer. It is mans wickedness not Gods fault why evil happens

[@seadog2969]

@@AlexGarcia-lp6mb I hope you can understand that your statement doesn't actually answer the question--it just deflects who is at fault for using evil. Your position also requires a quiet admission: that god created evil. Really, what your position says is: god created evil, permits it, and is not responsible. Man, having learned of evil, makes use of it. God, who as a just and benevolent being, and has all of the ability to intervene to stop evil, takes no action to stop the evil act. The evil act occurs. So, man is at fault and god has no responsibility. Let's try this out in a less abstract context: a bomb-maker makes a bomb designed to inflict mass death. A terrorist, having learned of the bomb, intends to make use of it on a train killing all aboard. The FBI knows of the bomb-maker, the terrorist, and the plot, but takes no action to stop the bombing. The bombing occurs and hundreds of people needlessly die. In the less abstract scenario, god occupies the role of the creator (bomb-maker) and the FBI (justice and police power to stop criminal acts). Man is obviously the terrorist. Yet even though all three--the bomb-maker, the FBI, and the terrorist allowed the bombing to happen, in your mind, only the terrorist is responsible. Is that really acceptable to you?

[@AlexGarcia-lp6mb]

@@seadog2969 Yes God created Good and Evil because Evil gives the Good purpose. God had made a World with no evil a perfect earth but man wasn't interested and disobeyed God. And again it comes down to you taking responsibility for your own actions. Stop being a coward and blame god for doing evil things understand freewill is something very powerful and every one will be judged for what they have done with their own lifes. If God came in to stop a killer from killing then it means that killer doesn't have freewill so nobody does. God can't contradict himself understand? He gave us freewill and he isn't going to interrupt our desicisions whether they be good or bad because like I said that would be violating the promise that he gave us freewill

[@robinredick8952]

This is a very hard question. Probably the hardest. I am a lifelong Christ follower, but I still have a hard time with why God lets this situation happen. I suppose any reasonable person would. I say that to say, it is very courageous to willingly take this question on and share it publicly. Respect.

[@Bugsy0333]

And what about the respect for the rape victim ? I'm told by many Christians that this is the free will that God gives us ? If God values free will over anything else, then why does He not care about the violation and impediment of an innocent person's free will ? I do not know why people keep looking for answers to this question when the most obvious has been staring them in the face all along !!

[@evangelist6277]

Because He knows the end from the beginning He knew that by allowing me to be abused, homeless at times, raped, in prison at times that as a Christian who ministers to the homeless I am able to relate with them better because I have been where they are and I know what they are going through. Despite all the evil I have endured the Lord brought me through it all and I wouldn't be the man I am had I not experienced the pain and the hurt the brokenness etc.

[@marielamccartney7319]

God bless you your testimony really touched my heart! You are very strong beyond words. I pray you reach many people and change their lives❤️

[@xhuli_0082]

Hi, I’m happy it worked for you, I do have a question though. So, in my area there was an 8 month old baby who was raped by an uncle and I have a friend who was also raped when she was 5, she’s struggling emotionally with self love, she harms herself and wants to commit suicide soon, because it traumatized her so much, how is that Gods plan? How is her wanting to commit and harming herself Gods plan? Why did God allow a child let alone a baby be treated that way? He’s all powerful couldn’t He have stopped the person from reaching that place the same way He’d stop someone from going to a place that might potentially harm them, basically protecting them, why did the baby not be protected?

[@thebicycleman8062]

That is one twisted logic my friend.

[@icarojose6316]

I don’t know how this is God’s plan and I don’t think anyone can say to you except God’s himself. But even if this brings no Good to the victim, you and everybody around you who saw this, can do a greater good from that, a greater good you guys couldn’t do if there weren’t bad things happening for you guys to act on the victims. So you might be the tool that God will use to bring good to the world.

[@crojo6934]

Amen our thoughts aren't Gods thoughts. We can gain wisdom as much as he has given us in his word KJ bible and being filled with the holy spirit.

[@zanlam2476]

King James bible? You missing a few books there :)

[@kjvacp]

@@zanlam2476 i count all 66. Don't think I'm missing anything.

[@crojo6934]

@@kjvacp Amen.

[@fewblack1572]

@vikedude 123 amazing presentation..w a worthy ending of glory to the Lord our God! He alone can decide what is good and evil.. The end will silence every doubt from now even forever to all the creatures.. Drawing a clear boundary btw creator and creature once and for all

[@GP-dp4mr]

If you want a COMPLETE UNCORRUPTED Bible I would suggest the Douay Rheims Bible

[@bobtheatheist63]

I can feel the cognitive dissonance so much it hurts

[@dookiebrains3824]

Seriously lol

[@gabriellameattray9778]

??

[@koketsomokone2975]

This is the only world in which LOVE is possible, as Raving Zacharias always says...

[@purefreedom1527]

" If we are free creatures, but then God stops us everytime we do something wrong, we arent really free are we?" 😲😲😲

[@option-sh9yd]

Well no i think if the police knew of all your intentions and criminal plans and stopped them before they happened your freedom is still your will, your desire to freely choose these thing and would do them if possible or allowed, so even if they did stop you you were freely desiring to do these and planned to do these things wether you actually went through with them is another thing...likewise freedom of will would still exist even if god stopped us from doing these things before we did them. i dont see how that takes away free will....i think you believe that free will means you have to complete what you set out to do for it count as will Wait evil extends to intentions right? Well in that case it becomes a little more tricky lol....could we be free even if god stopped all our evilness before it ever occured?...i say yes because in order for him to stop it there has to be something there to stop...i think it would just take the step back further so i think if we werent really free then there would be no need for gods intervention because to begin we wouldnt be able to even choose evil and there would be nothing for god to stop before it happens....idk if im making sense i have to think more about it

[@serendipia7177]

God doesn’t not need to stops everything we do to avoid evil; he just need to protect victims; god protecting every victim of evil acts does not interfere with free will; at the moment that someone is trying to hurt victim free will is being used; protections does not damage the criminals free will

[@blacksaibot6158]

That dude just couldn't GET IT. He had his mind made up before he asked the question like he was aiming for a GOTCHYA.

[@_patontheback_]

Exactly... he's only there for the sake winning an argument and gotcha moments. He's not there to listen.

[@justjuice1264]

@@_patontheback_his question wasn't even answered.

[@janus156]

kigzaro toffeyapple m.....yes it was

[@justjuice1264]

@@janus156 lmao you guys crack me up , carry on believing in fairy tails.

[@janus156]

kigzaro toffeyapple And you enjoy eternal Nothingness when you die 😊

[@Matae2k]

I can sense frustration and maybe even anger in the individual asking the question. I can sympathize with him. I often asked the very same question multiple times despite knowing the cliche, textbook answer. I would not judge for I have done the very same. That being said, Frank was very patient and understanding in answering and he is absolutely correct in that God is not at fault! He suffers with us thru any trials and tribulations. I know this for a fact because I have witnessed it in my own personal life. God bless you guys.

[@Shamsi419]

Poor answer . I don’t buy it anymore.

[@GnaReffotsirk]

He's not the police. We should police evil. The principalities set on this world supposed to rule in justice rebelled, this is a fallen world. He's going to stop this evil though. And when He does, it's going to be clean house. The answer is simple: God lets the crop grow, even though the weeds have been planted. Once the crop are mature, the harvest will happen.

[@exillens]

The biblical god is useless whether he's real or not. It's up to us to protect or get anything done here. Even religious people will agree to that

[@exillens]

@subtracted The biblical god or all gods aren't real?

[@tommyzoom9976]

@@exillens you really enjoy copying and pasting that statement don't you

[@exillens]

@@tommyzoom9976 Looking for a good rebut everyone's failing

[@tashajoykin5192]

@@exillens You're gonna keep saying that even if you happen to see the other side, huh? That's one place you can't help yourself.

[@guadalupelomeli6463]

True This comes from a victim of rape I know I wasn't God doing it I remember everything like it was yesterday He had evil inside him I forgave what he has done to me I hope God Forgive his sins in the name of Christ Amen.

[@julienielsen3746]

We all need to forgive, as God forgives us. If we refuse to forgive we allow satan to keep tormenting us. Good for you. You did the right thing. We need to receive God's peace in our hearts and in our minds instead of staying in unforgiveness.

[@teddy.yellowbuckets]

God bless you my sister, my family member has been hurt in the same way but she has forgiven and has a close intimate deep relationship with God. The question why still arises in my mind, but I know God was not the author of that nor did he want it to happen to any of His creation, His thoughts towards us are thoughts of peace and not of evil. It’s a blessing that your heart is open to still receive God’s love and a relationship with Him. The forgiveness you have is heartfelt and from above. Never turn away from God you have a light that many don’t have. God bless you in Jesus Name

[@user-bb4ru2uh9y]

@@teddy.yellowbuckets how did they get raped

[@elizevdspuy]

Having been a victim of this myself I can testify that the Lord Jesus restored me and worked it out for better...so much better than I ever have imagined. He is The Healer.

[@gabriellameattray9778]

I'm so glad!! Praise the Lord

[@xhuli_0082]

Hi, I’m happy it worked for you, I do have a question though. So, in my area there was an 8 month old baby who was raped by an uncle and I have a friend who was also raped when she was 5, she’s struggling emotionally with self love, she harms herself and wants to commit suicide soon, because it traumatized her so much, how is that Gods plan? How is her wanting to commit and harming herself Gods plan? Why did God allow a child let alone a baby be treated that way? He’s all powerful couldn’t He have stopped the person from reaching that place the same way He’d stop someone from going to a place that might potentially harm them, basically protecting them, why did the baby not be protected?

[@Ishallnotquit777]

@@xhuli_0082 I'm really very sorry to read that happening to those children 😥. I have faith & have been saved 8 years, but, i watched the news today how the Ukrainian women & children are being raped over there& i shouted at God & said WHY WOULD YOU, OMNIPOTENT & SEEING ALL THINGS, ALLOW SUCH MEN TO COMMIT SUCH EVIL! I was in tears & yes, I have questions. We've all sinned & fallen short of Gods glory, (Romans 3:23) thats an absolute fact! Jesus was crucified by wicked men & it was prophesied Jesus would pay for the sins of the world & i sincerely believe that someone who committed any evil crimes, if they knew the gospel of Jesus, & believed, obeyed & got saved & then they would not do it again, i believe Gods forgiveness will be on them.....but i often am very saddened by the evil wars & disgusting crimes happening & i wish God would step in.😥

[@thebicycleman8062]

So God shows up after the rape has been done.. great

[@Ishallnotquit777]

@@thebicycleman8062 Man unfortunately still has free choice, but the evil man who commits such disgusting acts, came from a him, not God. Even in scripture, King David committed adultery with Bathsheeba & to stop her husband finding out, he killed her husband in the battlefield.....King David repented in Psalm 51. Have you sinned? Took something not your's? Maybe you have done something wrong? That was your choice, not Gods. So my point is, God will reward everyone they've done according to this world, the resurrection of damnation who did evil, the resurrection of the just who did good.

[@PInk77W1]

Jesus said “A grain of wheat is only a grain of wheat, but if it falls to the ground and dies It yields a great harvest.”

[@tashajoykin5192]

where in the bible

[@PInk77W1]

Tasha Joykin Jn 12:24

[@ameliahanvelt5515]

I’m still confused. My aunt was raped and then killed. What good comes from that?…

[@julienielsen3746]

No. He's wrong about that. God is against rape. But, we do need to pray and ask God to protect us. That is why things like that happen. We need to allow God to do things for us. Yes. We have our part to do. God created a universe with no evil. But, the arch angel Lucifer who was created perfect, as it says in Ezekiel 28:15- Iniquity was found in him. - Lucifer tried to make himself be a god. God had to cast him out of Heaven before Lucifer ruined it. He was then called satan "the adversary". When satan talked Eve and Adam into disobeying God, and instead obeying satan. That was when satan had the amount of authority over the earth that God had given to Adam, transferred to him, by Adam's disobedience. That was when evil came upon the earth. God did not create evil. - God can't force man to not do evil, because of satan's authority over the earth. God can't destroy satan now because if He did, many people who will still be willing to receive Jesus and be saved, would be lost, and end up in hell. Satan will be destroyed when the time is right. There are a lot of babies that were aborted that would have done good things. Those things were not done because they were aborted

[@jaedynvela7513]

I’m so sorry that this happened to your aunt and your family had to go through this situation. I’m not God, so I can’t give a for sure answer as to what good came from or can come from it. I do know that God is a redeemer, and if He can’t make something good out of something bad, then that’s not power or goodness. My hope and prayer is for your healing, your hope and future, that whoever heard about this tragedy or worked on the case would feel more compassion for helping others and work hard to help others. That survivors will feel encouraged to tell their story and help others, and that you would be blessed in your own story of having lived this loss to make something good from something bad. You did not watch this video for no reason. Nor did you comment for no reason.

[@jaedynvela7513]

Romans 8:28 (God works out all things for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purposes) is a promise for followers of Christ. Since there is suffering in the world after sin, suffering does happen to all, but since Jesus rose from the dead and conquered sin and death (and suffering), those who trust in Him have this access to redemption that only He can provide.

[@MinCraige]

Love is not possible without free will.

[@bbrantley26]

How did you reach that conclusion?

[@MinCraige]

Love has be an act of free will or it is really not love.

[@MinCraige]

I have reached that conclusion after a careful look at the concept of love. If it is forced then logically if cannot be Love because ultimately I have to choose to love/be loving.

[@bbrantley26]

@@MinCraige i can see this is difficult for you. perhaps look up the word tautology (noun) and then read your comment and reply again. You failed to explain how you reached that conclusion.

[@MinCraige]

Brad I do not think my third comment was an example of “tautology.” Maybe my second comment but not the third where I proceeded to explain how I arrived at that conclusion. The whole reason for my third comment was because I was not pleased with how I answered your question.

[@VanessaGonzalez-do2hf]

Brought tears to me about the man who’s father was a rapist

[@emmanuel5566]

I so admire what you do sir. So calm and so bold to face any question in a LIVE session and your patience and wise answers you give both from philosophical and Biblical view-point. Anyone who has faced such tough issues in reality and trying to answer a small group will understand how hard it is to do what Frank is doing. All by God's grace and the power of His Holy Spirit. What a great witness to the real God[JESUS], who is the only ideal answer to all the BIG questions humanity has always pondered upon.

[@alanbaraka9800]

@Emmanuel J answer the big questions? Frank does a horrible job of rebuttals. He hasn't been able to demonstrate his god even exists and uses many fallacies along the way. But for the sake of debate can you demonstrate your god to exist?

[@elishawilson1429]

@@alanbaraka9800 and just how is he supposed to demonstrate that

[@elishawilson1429]

@@alanbaraka9800 you don't demonstrate God your comment makes no sense

[@alanbaraka9800]

@Elisha Wilson "and just how is he supposed to demonstrate that". Good question. Which is why I asked. "you don't demonstrate God your comment makes no sense". Actually claiming a god exists but not being able to demonstrate that god is real makes no sense.

[@elishawilson1429]

@@alanbaraka9800 that question in itself makes no sense lol

[@alvarogomez4936]

God speaks to the conscience to try to keep us from sin. It is up to us to listen. That isn't Gods fault.

[@AtamMardes]

U thank God for your life & the lives of the animals u eat. U thank God for choosing u out of many patients to recover from illness. Are u unable to realize how religion uses an imaginary God to fool u into feeling special by exploiting your hypocrisy, narcissism, gullibility, ignorance & arrogance?

[@blackorchid8278]

atam mardes what's so bad about being thankful for that? If you don't believe there's a God it's not necessary to complain about anyone exploiting hypocrisy, narcissism, gullibility, ignorance and arrogance to feel special. So what? Let it be then 🌝

[@elishawilson1429]

@@AtamMardes yeah and we have a right to if you don't fine do you don't try and force us not to

[@AtamMardes]

@@blackorchid8278 U are not answering the question. I ask u again: U thank God for your life & the lives of the animals u eat. U thank God for choosing u out of many patients to recover from illness. Are u unable to realize how religion uses an imaginary God to fool u into feeling special by exploiting your hypocrisy, narcissism, gullibility, ignorance & arrogance?

[@AtamMardes]

@@elishawilson1429 I ask u the same question: U thank God for your life & the lives of the animals u eat. U thank God for choosing u out of many patients to recover from illness. Are u unable to realize how religion uses an imaginary God to fool u into feeling special by exploiting your hypocrisy, narcissism, gullibility, ignorance & arrogance?

[@STREEEEEET]

God can bring good from Evil. " _Joseph is recorded in Genesis __50:20__ as saying to his brothers, “You meant evil against me, but God used it for good_ " 6:12 God cannot do contradictory things and that's not an impairment to omnipotence because contradictory things are not real things. There is no task to be performed when it comes to logical impossibilities. God cannot create a one end stick for instance; similarity it's a logical contradiction to create a world with free will and then stop people from choosing evil. God is good and he will punish evil and more times than we can see he will use evil for good. Moreover i believe He does things that we do not give Him credit for to bring comfort and hope for people that went through tremendous injustices and also who knows what type of reward they may have waiting for them after the resurrection... I understand that's a question some atheists may struggle with but God is good. Put your trust in Him and His justice and wisdom.

[@Vivacious_Chaos]

I still dont think I understand. What good has come from me being abused? What good has come from the harm I have caused others? I have asked God to remove me from this earth for my sin and the sins set against me. I do not want or need free-will. Peace is what my soul needs and a resting place, a safe haven away from abuse. Laying my sins at the feet of God did not stop the rape. My adamant and loyal faith did not stop the rape or lessen the pain. How do I continue my way forward through faith?

[@evelynmccormick2112]

Many Christians do not know their identity in Christ. They are children of the most high God. When we cry out to God, He will deliver us from evil. Read Psalm 91 and Psalm 34:6. How blessed we are to know that our God is loving and full of mercy.

[@gregdiprinzio9280]

Moral perfection is an intellectual preoccupation and bar to belief for those wholly abandoned to sin.

[@leonpope861]

Speak Truth and Wisdom!

[@xaindsleena8090]

Good question but a nonsensical answer. There is no suffering in heaven, and yet Satan still had free will when rebelled against god. This shows that free-will and the absence of suffering are not mutually exclusive

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

Faulty logic, just because something happened, doesn't mean you cannot blame a random factor to make your point. Just because Satan had free will does not certainly mean he would eventually sin. There was only a single event of sin in heaven, no more, no less. Angels that are in heaven chose to be sinless, and chose to stay that way.

[@samuelstephens6904]

@@TimberWulfIsHere "There was only a single event of sin in heaven, no more, no less." Special pleading much? If it can happen once, then it can happen again. There's no faulty logic there. To imagine a reality with "free will" and no suffering is not incoherent and is in fact trivially easy. Either heaven is without sin, or sin is possible in heaven. Per the Bible, sin is possible in heaven. So even after all is restored, it's only a matter of time for the cycle to begin anew.

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

@@samuelstephens6904 its not special pleading if its a fact. To assume something happened and therefore can happen again is fallible, as you didn't take into account any result which occurred after the event which may prevent it from occurring.

[@samuelstephens6904]

@@TimberWulfIsHere What would prevent it from occurring and why weren't those measure in place from the get-go? Is God just a bungler?

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

@@samuelstephens6904 since satan was put in a position higher than any angel, he somehow occured to think he could be God. There is no angel in that position anymore. The result of satan falling away is an example for all angels of why you don't sin; the event is its own deterant, akin to WW2.

[@AlejandroHernandez-bj5ho]

No free will and no sin is better than free will with evil sin .

[@babyhercules9875]

Batman isn't listening, he is just asking the same question again and again, the dude kept answering

[@crsmith9988]

Simple: he doesn’t exist. Think of all the other cruel deeds he doesn’t stop. How can we belive in someone who sacrifices his son for a cause. I cannot believe in a religion based on human sacrifice. Talk about a very bad example for all the fathers out there. What good comes out of rape? This guy sure knows how to twist things...

[@benbenben123ben]

I think it is, in fact, humans who know how to turn their life that has been messed up by someone else’s wrong choice into something that can be used for good. Humans are resilient.

[@benbenben123ben]

I also have thought that, “just because we don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s not the reality” meaning: just because we don’t like that there needs to sacrifice to appease God, doesn’t mean that that is not the reality. But, you are saying that if God is real and really like this, then I don’t want to have any part of it. Man, if it is real, hell seems like a bad place. Lol It’s a cruel decision though. It’s not really a decision. 😂 Choose God or go to hell. Wow, not much of a choice is it?

[@Bob_Adkins]

His Son is not dead. He "sacrificed" him for all of mankind, which is more than worthy of 1 suffering and dying for 3 days. Rapists have free will. God wants them punished in this life and the next.

[@crsmith9988]

Bob Adkins WOW... RELIGIO=PUNISHMENT... TOO MUCH VIOLENCE FOR ME. I believe in living a good life, doing whatever you want to do, as long as you do not hurt anyone. I also believe in “Live and let live”. Do not judge, do not accuse, do not codemn, do not hate or shun... respect and accept all. I know for sure that I am going to live this life... and do it my way. Never will I accept to be told how to live my life by an extremely senseless book or an ignorant society. Be good and be happy.

[@Bob_Adkins]

@@crsmith9988 Yes, that's the behavior we are presently accepting in our cities. How's that working out?

[@aaronmoritz9878]

That poor guy didn’t understand most of the answers that were presented to him. He was stuck on the fact that God should stop evil but doesn’t.

[@leonardu6094]

Exactly, he really thinks he's smart or something.

[@bornnaked01]

... makes me realise *how fortunate we are* to understand what is spiritually discerned.

[@TruthandnothingbutTHEtruth.]

Idk how the guy couldn’t comprehend what frank was explaining.. people are so blinded by their own skepticism and so in denial when truth is in their face.

[@rejithregi2588]

Awesome answer...I would of panicked if I were asked that question

[@polluxtoda]

but somehow someday, at the back of your mind in your heart, in this era you got a strong feeling that question may come one day. LOL

[@musicinspire1745]

You could see that the guy asking the questions had no clue. He simply didn't get it. Sophism is something he seemed incapable of grasping.

[@kenim]

People expect God's power to break logical contradiction. There is a difference between breaking natural law and breaking logic as a whole

[@MarkProffitt]

He understood, he just wanted to publicly reject God and act like he was smart.

[@AmoSaxFrancis]

But God can put situations for that not to happen, he can even give instructions but it's still up that individual to decide if he/she should obey (free will).

[@sarahbaer1593]

Better to have no free will and be with the true God than have free will

[@amethysttwelfth2159]

According to this pastor, if someone murders your child and when that murderer is presented before the judge he says, "Judge I accept you please forgive me." And then the judge also accepts he is guilty and lets him go without the punishment of his crime, and you see it all happening with your own eyes, would that be a justice? Would any of you be okay with that? Remember that criminal took every last pleasure of what he did now that the child is dead and he's not coming back again, was there any child's fault that he deserved to get killed? Infact that child was like everyone of us who had a flesh and blood and a soul, he had every right to live. Do you think that innocent people don't deserve justice? Is there no punishment for rapist, can everyone rape and go to heaven? If you beat up someone and later you say that you didn't beat him would that be okay? A crime is a crime and there's a punishment for that.

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

I think it was so important that he took the few minutes that he did in the middle of his argument to address the fact that no logic-based philosophical argument is going to provide the comfort that a person needs who has gone through something like that. You have to have both. Well spoken.

[@ThePunisher990]

So all those floods, earthquakes ,cyclones etc that kill people and innocent lives is free will? And what about children born with mental disorders and disability who suffer all their life and sometimes are short lived? Is it free will too?

[@julienielsen3746]

All those floods, earthquakes, cyclones, etc that kill people are from satan. Not God. Satan brought sickness, disease, death, hate, poverty, and every evil thing upon the earth. God is against rape. But, we do need to pray and ask God to protect us. That is why things like that happen. We need to allow God to do things for us. Yes. We have our part to do. God created a universe with no evil. But, the arch angel Lucifer who was created perfect, as it says in Ezekiel 28:15- Iniquity was found in him. - Lucifer tried to make himself be a god. God had to cast him out of Heaven before Lucifer ruined it. He was then called satan "the adversary". When satan talked Eve and Adam into disobeying God, and instead obeying satan. That was when satan had the amount of authority over the earth that God had given to Adam, transferred to him, by Adam's disobedience. That was when evil came upon the earth. God did not create evil. - God can't force man to not do evil, because of satan's authority over the earth. God can't destroy satan now because if He did, many people who will still be willing to receive Jesus and be saved, would be lost, and end up in hell. Satan will be destroyed when the time is right. There are a lot of babies that were aborted that would have done good things. Those things were not done because they were aborted

[@tonizargari9718]

According to the Pastor, yes, and don’t question God. He’s sovereign, remember? lol

[@ronjones2266]

Freewill means allowing people to suffer the consequences of sin.

[@blethenfamily2658]

Ron Jones innocent people suffers too. Like children getting rape and murder. So you are telling me, they have to suffer or pay because of someone’s wickedness. Doesn’t make sense.

[@NunyaBitness-xq9ed]

The problem is that others free will is allowed to harm people other than themselves. I think the main problem I have is that people’s free will extends to committing even the most cruel acts and the victim is left to deal with the extreme consequences mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually yet if the victim doesn’t forgive the person that committed the horrifying act on them they will be thrown into a merciless hell by God. Does God EVER consider the extreme trauma He allows to happen to victims when He judges them?

[@John-lm6rs]

GREAT MESSAGE!

[@jozuzl1]

That was a good question 👍

[@ZeekRulezz990]

@vikedude 123 what isa load of garbage

[@luiskurosaki9180]

There is a different from controlling someone and stopping.

[@OZTutoh]

1:25 For the longest time in my life, I believed that every Christian aspired to become a pastor and stay there. The idea that a Christian would not consider that to be right for them breaks my mind.

[@TANKHUNTER73]

Frank thank you for your videos. It helps me with some of the questions I had. God bless you sir.

[@alanbaraka9800]

What questions would those be?

[@relentlessrhythm2774]

Beautiful story! I wish lives of those conceived in rape were valued more

[@rc....]

I am philosophical too and that's why when I seek the philosophical answer I couldn't find comfort....

[@RWUltima]

Thanks for sharing that story!

[@malangkotabunga4584]

Loving it!

[@ZBooneBeats]

Wow, mind blown. I had something happen in my life and have been asking why God would allow me to have such pain and suffering. I have to believe he will bring about something good from my pain... somehow

[@gabriellameattray9778]

Hey man how are you now??

[@ZBooneBeats]

@@gabriellameattray9778 Ok! Thanks for asking! How are you?

[@JoeMama-yl2bt]

How are you doing now?! :)

[@ZBooneBeats]

@@JoeMama-yl2bt Hey, I'm doing ok taking things one day at a time. Been self improving going to the gym and reading my Bible. Thank you for asking. Hope all is well on your end!

[@JoeMama-yl2bt]

@@ZBooneBeats sorry, I just saw this now D: I’m really glad to hear that tho!! Pray you keep up at it :) I’m doing alrightyyy. Pain and suffering is hard… but I’m glad that Jesus walks with us and guides us through it and one day it will be no more. Gotta keep my eyes on the next life but it’s that daily battle

[@daveslyker4431]

Man that story of the pastor made me tear up.

[@trumpbellend6717]

That's because your gullible dear.

[@christopheradams7736]

Fact of the matter is, thiest will defend their imaginary being just like an abuse victim will do.

[@mikeyseo]

Yes. My God is the Redeemer. Come to Him All you that are burdened and heavy in heart. He will give you rest.

[@alejandrodelvillar7609]

The devil wants you to think that it's God's fault

[@YouReadMyCommentt]

but god could still stop it!

[@nori_tutor]

You know, most of the punishments and deaths in the Old Testament is caused by God, and not the devil.

[@jacoblee5796]

How the hell do you get from stopping a rapist to ending all free will!? That is completely asinine!

[@PokeMaster03]

Because by stoping a rapist god must also end everyone's free will is kinda like here in America we have this thing called the constitution of the USA if American citizen is strip of he's rights of free speech or if he's rights to own guns are strip away from him then the government can do the same thing to the rest of us as well.

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

God does take rape seriously. It's punished by DEATH in the Old Testament. But God ALSO takes human free will seriously. He's not willing to remove it from us. Rape is an unfortunate & horrendous consequence of humans exercising their free will wrongly. In the end, however "God will repay everyone, according to what they have done" (Romans 2:6).

[@kingxxmeatkingxxmeat9071]

That was really good!

[@KISStheSON...]

Answer their questions with God's word, not man's wisdom. It's God's word that has the power to save sinners. Ephesians 6:17 - And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Romans 9 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: Genesis 50:20 “But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.” John 11:35 “Jesus wept.”

[@magdimeekhail7866]

1Cor 9:19-22: "For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant to all, that I might gain the more. And to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ, ) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some."

[@KISStheSON...]

@@magdimeekhail7866 Great scripture 😍

[@artistmajor]

Frank Turek answered his question so eloquently, and precisely. It is up to US to receive truth without debate. However, this is the beauty and fullness of God to allow US to debate because HE gave US free WILL to do so. What we need to realize is that we USe that free WILL to make a mockery of God's fullness and goodness. I think this gentleman-questioner exhibited this as he was not WILLing to accept the evident Truth and fact that it is US that are not "all-powerful," "all-knowing," and "ever-present."

[@bbrantley26]

You accept something as being true when it is proven to be true

[@MuhammadsMohel]

Why doesn't nature step in to stop it?

[@johnwept5250]

I was very sick one time. God used that time to bring me to his son.

[@frankmoser6251]

Sorry to tell you but your sicker NOW than you EVER COULD have been BEFORE "Jesus Christ" ( catalyst of EVIL) .....better read the goddamned unholy Jewish bible AGAIN .... And this time DON'T skip ANYTHING .....TRUTH FM2020

[@user-rt5me8kc9u]

It’s sad that people so religious and be on Yahwehs good side with good works and not daring to questioning him. But if that happened to them or love one…. ohhh ohhh will that story and opinion of theirs will definitely change. Senseless 30,000 Christian denominations. Is it a sin to ask Yahweh and for him to be silent? Are you saying you need to be rape to be saved and see his “salvation”? Is this one of many routes to his “salvation”. All these fake Christian’s are soooooo rude and don’t even know the Melchizedek blood priesthood. And if you’re actually working on the front lines and dealing with sex trafficking wth do you know going to average churches and being an average Christian who are toxic.

[@SirNic4180]

You can't stop free will , thus a god can't exist.

[@Red_Angel-dw4cv]

This arguement is sooo bad, lol he keeps defending god even god is caught red handed

[@christinaf8417]

God wanted beings who love Him for Him and have a relationship with Him.For that free will is needed and evil. He uses the evil to bring us to Him. We go through bad experiences and those experiences of evil cause us to search for good which is God. It's really that simple. Read the Bible in humility and it'll make sense.

[@elishawilson1429]

Amen sister

[@christinaf8417]

@@elishawilson1429 Amen

[@blethenfamily2658]

Uses evil to bring us to him? Like allowing rape, murder innocent children all over the world. Do you hear what you’re saying.

[@markgarcia3889]

Man. Had a knot in my throat after Frank shared the story of the pastor. Moment of silence, thought the video ended after that and this guy comes out asking the same question.

[@KittyChanU2]

alot of very good answers. very thoughtful ones. but batman was on a mission and pray he listened in the end.

[@theone5022]

Because we are all gods and have complete power over our fate and don’t need God to interfere.

[@julienielsen3746]

We all need God. God is against rape. But, we do need to pray and ask God to protect us. That is why things like that happen. We need to allow God to do things for us. Yes. We have our part to do. God created a universe with no evil. But, the arch angel Lucifer who was created perfect, as it says in Ezekiel 28:15- Iniquity was found in him. - Lucifer tried to make himself be a god. God had to cast him out of Heaven before Lucifer ruined it. He was then called satan "the adversary". When satan talked Eve and Adam into disobeying God, and instead obeying satan. That was when satan had the amount of authority over the earth that God had given to Adam, transferred to him, by Adam's disobedience. That was when evil came upon the earth. God did not create evil. - God can't force man to not do evil, because of satan's authority over the earth. God can't destroy satan now because if He did, many people who will still be willing to receive Jesus and be saved, would be lost, and end up in hell. Satan will be destroyed when the time is right. There are a lot of babies that were aborted that would have done good things. Those things were not done because they were aborted