Why doesn't the Triangular Bishop move like this?

[@s_o_m_e_o_n_e__e_l_s_e]

With normal chess, the bishop travels to any square of the same colour where the corners are touching, proving why this should be the case.

[@thom333s]

It still does tho

[@s_o_m_e_o_n_e__e_l_s_e]

@@thom333s exactly, I was adding another reason why this should be the case.

[@lolipomfp]

ur explaination is the correct one, symmetry like the guy said has nothing to do with this

[@s_o_m_e_o_n_e__e_l_s_e]

@@lolipomfp thank you

[@-ZH]

@@lolipomfp I mean, it’s just a matter of perspective. The symmetry is a result of being able to travel in the direction of each same coloured triangle, so I won’t say it has nothing to do with it.

[@Trashley652]

Chess fans when a chess variant varies from standard chess 😱

[@paintlab2.0]

They're called "variants" for a reason lmao

[@CrazedKen]

The horror

[@carriebell8096]

and we got it before gta 6

[@YezzirGamer]

😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@ashentwo6608]

​@@carriebell8096just a shame that we'll never get another new original joke before gta 6

[@rhrbubsgaming]

You should make triangular chess with 3 players with each starting in a corner of the triangle

[@Gabriel-nh5jr]

That's actually really smart-

[@afriendlyuser]

i can already imagine the knight royal fork 2 player at same time and people ganking on the weaker side lol edit : oh wait isn't that just the three kingdoms

[@adri745k]

That would just make sense honestly

[@justeaden9568]

This exists, the board is a hexagon

[@mateoasprey7358]

If 4 is 2 then why would 3 be more would not make sense.

[@OptimusPhillip]

This also preserves the rule of "adjacent at the corners, bishop can move"

[@real.snatch]

Bishop too powerful like that though

[@Lowkjustthatguy]

@TheChessGuy-YTBAbot

[@Lowkjustthatguy]

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[@studbilly]

heres an idea for chess since people wont stop complaining about chess moves this variant is called: rng chess - all non-king pieces will have a randomized moveset and material points - pawns must move closer to the other side of the board - castling and pawn promotion still exists - kings can move into checks, and checks can go unnoticed - king en passant: pieces can capture your king if the king went through checks (via castling) - capture the king or end the game with most material points to win

[@eaglest0554]

King en passant feels like the name of the antagonist in a chess anime.

[@The10thDimensions]

you currently cant castle through checks. is the suggestion you can now castle through checks but the result is you lose?

[@studbilly]

@@The10thDimensions yeah, because you and your opponent are trying to figure out how each pieces move

[@tf2-9394]

Just play fisher random

[@studbilly]

@@tf2-9394 chess960 is not fun enough, i want to feel like im a 100 elo player

[@AidanStricklin]

Idea: in Circular Chess the missing center circle is The Void, where Pawns can take pieces blocking promotion by pushing them into the void

[@luckythelucklesswolf1419]

that sounds fun

[@AndrewLi-k8l]

Bro it’s supposed to still be kind of like normal chess, so shut up with ur dumb comments that nobody cares about

[@vancallim6637]

It's almost like what you are creating is in fact not chess, but something with a similar ruleset that is its own creature entirely.

[@GreenLemonGames]

Like a......chess variant? 🙃

[@nimiugn]

@@GreenLemonGamesLMAOOO

[@ValkyRiver]

@@GreenLemonGames Some people are so ingrained with the geometry of the square board that they forget how geometry works on other boards. Also, *colors on a board are arbitrary.* The geometry of the board is still the same, no matter how it’s colored. Pieces should conform to the geometry of the board, and not whatever arbitrary coloring is applied on it. Another idea: just make that other bishop in a separate chess variant

[@zaingamingandstuff7774]

@@GreenLemonGamesbro almost ratioed

[@vancallim6637]

@@GreenLemonGames I mean more along the lines of shogi or something like that. Something that is clearly similar to chess, but isn't really.

[@samuels1123]

Is an interesting idea, What if in chess, none of the pieces were allowed to go backwards until some condition is met.

[@Pasu4]

That is basically shogi.

[@elhoteldeloserrantes5056]

​@@Pasu4 explain pls. I have 0 idea of shogi

[@Pasu4]

@@elhoteldeloserrantes5056 Basically, there are certain pieces that can only move forward: - The lance, like a rook that can only move forward - The knight, moves two squares forward and one to left or right If these pieces reach one of the last 3 ranks, they may be promoted to a gold general, which moves like a king, except it cannot move backwards diagonally.

[@prajwalmahale1738]

That's the same rule of checkers

[@Legostopmotionguy666]

It’d be perfect for chess v checkers

[@stevenw5253]

Me thinking I would never need my geometry class ever again This video:

[@Person-ef4xj]

I like this alternative movement better as it preserves the pointiness of the bishop movement and keeps the bishops color bound.

[@ValkyRiver]

*Colors on a board are arbitrary.* You could color the board differently, but the geometry of the board doesn’t change. Pieces should follow the geometry of the board, and not whatever arbitrary coloring is given to it.

[@ij4927]

​@@ValkyRiverIt's not arbitrary. Two equal colors can't be next to each other. So the colors come after the board and let you visualize it

[@ElShogoso]

​@@ValkyRiverno, they should follow the colors.

[@collagefoodtechnician5462]

@@ValkyRiver Nah, imo Bishop main things is that you can avoid it as long as you are in a different color :D

[@Roititouan]

Babe wake up, the bishop has been buffed

[@TheCompleteMental]

I like that hex, triangle, and square chess have such big differences that require seperate strategies

[@armando9203]

i find funny how less faces of the board makes the bishop have more paths to go

[@CodeMan-tj3rt]

nooo but bishop moving in a cardinal direction looks weird so we cant

[@maestro6220]

Well, I definitely need to know that for SAT

[@jgamer1137]

You know what’s crazy, a rook also moves in 90° increments. So why does the piece with less value get to be better than the piece with a higher value?

[@ratingexplicit7441]

It isn't entirely, the bishop still can't change what color it's on, while the rook can. Besides, this is a chess variant and if he needs to change piece values he will

[@GreenLemonGames]

The rook's movement that I showed was also incorrect, since it was demonstrating what people want the bishop/rook movement to be. The rook also gets to move along 3 lines

[@doomse150]

​@@GreenLemonGames Ah, that's good to know, I was wondering when you got rid of the original 3 file rook movement.

[@J3ff_K1ng]

I feel like it could be more interesting a hexagonal board made of triangular pieces, but it's not exactly what you would expect from triangular chess

[@OliverVanRaalte]

In my favorite board, the hexagon board, the bishop teleports past certain tiles, kinda like it exists in its own board disconnected from the normal one.

[@MyNameIsJames12]

You just used every vocab word my math teacher has taught me this year

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

One way you can do it is to respect the 3 way symmetry and so rooks can move straight up or down depending on the square Horizontally or the 60deg angle downwards either side or both if you want it to be strong. Bishops can move straight across corners so straight down or up depending on the square but opposite of if a rook was there and effectively 30 deg up were you follow the corners straight across.

[@pqdb.04]

the rook seems to me to be somehow wrong

[@Stibiumowl-oder-kurz-Stibi]

Thanks for proofing it thi much mathematicaly acurate. So topology don't allow any critics now.

[@definedeadd]

This is why hexagons are bestagons

[@syruscoy1244]

You keep trying to reinvent the wheel...

[@jacobf.1691]

I can only think of thie with hexagons.

[@aditichowdhury9485]

Watching rules of triangular chess ❎ Learning geometry✅

[@ChessGamer8710]

Bobby wouldnt want this chess rules

[@gonzalog4056]

Then the rook takes the whole triangular board, isn't it?

[@GabriTell]

I love to see Chess twisted in any topologically possible way. 🔥

[@AhmedTamer-vx5mn]

Welcome in a position where the bishop is more terrifying than the rook 😂

[@meywo]

yeah and the rook should go in the opposite directions (up,down/top left,bottom right/top right,bottom left)

[@vbgaming6203]

I mean I figured it as the same colour touching the vertexes of that point since bishops can never change tile colour

[@yen_here]

Bro taught me geometry better then my geometry teacher

[@allu6244]

My brain can barely play normal chess We aren’t supposed to be living like this, we are supposed to be cutting wheat and dying of smallpox

[@O-neilP]

Crazy bishop buff

[@invis999]

So basically, in triangular chess, the bishops are rooks, and the rooks are bishops

[@Wabit-b6k]

Why is this so controversial 😂

[@ValkyRiver]

Some people are unable to realize that colors on a board are arbitrary and doesn’t affect the geometry of the board.

[@ashentwo6608]

Because people can't comprehend a variant of something being different

[@doomse150]

The more I think about it, the more I like the bishop movement you originally proposed. One suggestion would be to try and simplify the definition to something like "in place of diagonals, we use the *height* line of the triangle, a line that goes from one point to the center of the opposing side". I think that explanation makes the diagonals much easier to spot when looking at the board instead of the somewhat convoluted "pair the triangles as rhombuses and trace their diagonals" explanation you used originally. That one was cool for background information, but not all that great for memorizing and spotting the lines when playing. And my suggestion for dealing with people who complain about the colors not making sense is to just switch to the 6 color board that you showed at one point. Just mess with them further.

[@ValkyRiver]

I do agree. The original version of the bishop is the one used in Tri-Chess and Trishogi. Colors on a board are arbitrary. The geometry of the board is still the same, no matter how it’s colored. Pieces should conform to the geometry of the board, and not whatever arbitrary coloring is applied on it.

[@hiwaga7399]

triangles are just hexagons waiting to happen

[@THECHEESELORD69]

This is why hexagons are the bestagons

[@AxisTheJester]

Thank goodness, some people can still think

[@JohnkevinCulibra]

The bishop turned into a queen v1

[@firezone8770]

Shouldnt it be 3 lines that are 120° away from each other

[@silvory7021]

120 degrees is good until you realize the bishop wouldn't be allowed to move back to a previous position with only one turn like you can in normal chess

[@dylogysminter]

i find the original bishop movement way smarter then all the ones you are suggesting since then

[@AeonKnigh432]

"That's not how it works on a triangular grid" girlboss YOU made how it works on a triangular grid

[@Truth360official]

Question? Why we need triangle chess We are happy in square chess

[@SansUndertale-zv7pn]

Bishop:haha now im like a queen

[@daleodorito]

What makes sense to me is that the bishop would have one less axis to move with, since we basically removed one on the vertices of the tiles, which for me are the ones who indicate how it can move. I see the tile on which it is in and it just feels right to me that it should be able to move to all adjacent tiles (the three black ones) and follow up the path outwards to where those are pointing, alternating between black and white tiles. It is just what feels diagonal to me without having this superweird thing of skipping tiles so it can remain in the same colour.

[@PeanutButterItemFrame]

It also follows the rule of staying on the same colour

[@GageKelley-r2v]

My favorite version of chess is quantum chess, which uses one particular mechanic as its main variation. But also has a side effect of a second quantum mechanic. The first is super position. You move a peice 2 locations at once, and each will now have a 50% chance being its actual location. If that piece takes anotjer. Then if it was real it takes as nirmal, and if wasnt the other becomes real i.stead, because tje normal peice "measured" it. And the same thing happens if tje normal peice takes a split peice. If they're both split peices, then measuring once instantly affects all of them at once, through quantum entanglement. And any split peice can move through any other split peice, as if it werent there. This will also entangle those pieces. It doesnt add quantum tunneling or quantum locking, but i have ideas for them. For quantum tunneling, thete is an extra 2 ranks and files on each side, giving 4 more total. When a peice splits, and only if it splits, you can get a peice that exists outside the barreir of the board. This can serve to protect a peice, or be used to sneak into the back. But theres only a chance it will work since it has to split. And for quantum locking, you can lock any two peices for 1 turn, durring which when 1 peice moves, the second peice moves the same. If 1 is obstructed, that can prevent a peice with a clear shot from moving if say you lock a queen with their enclosed king, for example. It can also be an advantage to use on your peices. But you only have 3 uses per game.

[@Taburet192]

Can't wait till someone makes chess with pentagons

[@motaz-c]

The queen is gonna be diabolical

[@phantom9831]

I mean, I've often thought for fun "the Bishop on the black tile only moves on black tiles, same for the one on the black tile. And in your variant, that still checks out

[@HappinessForever_26]

What happens when a checker promotes?

[@016_]

Maybe the bishop could just move where the corners of the triangles meet

[@FindusHastlasagne]

The x- and y-axis from the square space is not the same as the axes in a triangular space. If you depict it the axes is the triangular space will not be 90° apart. So mathematically this might be wrong. Please correct me if i am wrong!

[@sivadfa]

To be honest; I just saw it as the triangles that are touching by the corner. Meaning that to me that it was *exactly* like square chess.

[@gianlucatartaro1335]

This alternative movement design just seems far too inconsistent. The original plan was far better, and the goal shouldn’t be to make it like standard chess.

[@masterbuildermac5879]

Step 1: 4 sides, 2 diagonals Step 2: 3 sides, 3 diagonals Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit

[@engineergaming8272]

when you got the red book for bishop in shotgun king:

[@Giman_iets]

If its in the middle of the board in normal chess, rooks try to move to the sides of the board, and bishops to the corner, but in this, the corner and side are opposite of each other, so they cant be the same as normal.

[@SEAkuaa]

Didnt really get a good look in the first shot so I was gonna say "maybe make it so it can only go on one color to keep that aspect" then it replayed and I saw thats literally what you did. I think its perfect

[@LCCWPresents]

Fun game combo Go-Chess. You play a go piece or a chess piece on your turn. The goal is to checkmate the king or capture the territory the enemy king occupies.

[@LCCWPresents]

Expanded ideas 1) Trap chess It’s go and western chess, but when an enemy piece steps into a go region control by the opponent, their piece(s) imdedeatly get captured and the go pieces leave the board (as opposed to the go pieces staying on the board. 2) Combo Go, Chinese chess, and western chess into 1. The goal is to take the enemy general or king. The go pieces can be used to capture western chess pieces as long as the space isn’t occupied by a Chinese chess piece. A Chinese chess piece can move on top of the go piece to take it off the board. Go pieces if surrounding a Chinese chess pieces could take Chinese chess pieces as to the normal go rules.

[@greenberrygk]

3 sides vs 4 sides is 6 way vs 4 way because of division

[@reganl8366]

Chess is not about angles. The bishop’s function is to only move on the diagonal. In this case the bishop can move horizontally, or vertically depending on what way you look at it. In the X formation, it always moves diagonally.

[@The_Flanker_Guy.]

Good idea,I would love the fact that my pawn could count as 9 points 👍

[@معاذالقاقا]

The bishop always goes to the corner so the same at tringle

[@thomasdewierdo9325]

i think what would make more sense would to go in 120 degree increments. In normal chess, those lines going out from the center of the space perfectly intersect all the corners of the square, all 4 corners. in a triangle, you could instead only have these paths going to the 3 corners, meaning a 120 degree space in between each path.

[@AhmadSh.a]

The Bishop should move through the corners of the triangle it started on and the rook through the sides

[@Tommy_theBuilder]

Soooo we got a mini queen

[@PixelTrainer.]

Is the triangular board going to be rotated? If the answer is "no", then it doesn't matter in the slightest

[@bop9444]

Chess boards are rotated depending if you are playing as black or white.

[@omarhasaballa7818]

ok, do you want another reason that actually matters much more? the bishop always stays on the same color, are you happy now?

[@acurrz]

buddy i dont know if you know this but 2 people dont play the same side of the chess board

[@Be-lo_da_fluff]

id say 120* between everything extend lines from the center of the triangle through its vertices just like you can with the square board

[@GasNobili]

Bishop line goes through corners Rook line goes through edges

[@Sigma_tau]

Guy please post your games in android. 😭

[@fogtheghost]

the bishops should always stay on their single tile color.

[@techtheuwumaster9177]

Yes, and this movement does exactly that

[@ChocoP-Yt]

I didn’t know chess people were THAT nerdy tho..

[@Friend15739]

Bishop got buff

[@blazelord_2207]

You should make the rooks and the bishops go in 3 directions then

[@devendersingh4269]

Just add 3 movements for a bishop , with each angle 120°,as in square it moves in four direction so in triangle it would move in 3 direction

[@WilliamWizer]

instead of focusing on the angles... you can also focus on the fact that the bishop travels in any straight line that doesn't change color.

[@jefferydavidson5347]

Yes, HOWEVER I still think you should remove the left/right path unless you plan on making the rook move semi diagonally if you know what I mean

[@Gordonmonke_vr]

SIR I HAVE A SOLUTION TO THE CENTER PROBLEM IN CIRCULAR CHESS, YOU SHOULD FILL IT IN WITH YOUR KZbin LOGO

[@maximillianraphaelregalado5934]

If thats how the bishop moves, the rook should be able to move 360° / 3

[@ghromm1]

Me at 2pm: I'm so fucking tired I should get more sleep Me at 2am: hmm triangular bishop angles, interesting (I don't even play chess)

[@ozi-g-be]

I think my main pet peeve is that the bishop has 2 extra paths on a board with 1 less side, so it's basically a super queen How about 3 120° angle paths instead to meet the equal angle requirements AND match the number of corners

[@localcringeguy]

And the corners touch…

[@minecraftplayer5311]

The movement of bishop should be towards the corner of the triangle and the movement of the roots should be to the edges of the triangle

[@7d31ayushpatil6]

you could also say that in normal chess like bishop moves in any white square in any direction near it so in this variant it also moves in all white squares near it even if its horizontal vertical or whatever

[@campbellstudio5076]

I thought they could travel over the corners, but then what would you do for the next tile?

[@Matador824]

How would the queen move in triangular chess

[@Thelongestshrimp]

I think the rook and bishop shouldn't have movement in common. You know, because a queen is a rook+ a bishop, they shouldnt be so similar. At that point just use a rook

[@lol_cerdef]

They still need cheese

[@Gojif3n_whorarelypostaboutgoji]

Bishop turned to Queen

[@DemetrePertuis]

using the angle method for the rook would work the same in that case. both use four 90 degree angles in real chess so (by your logic) they should move the same.

[@woomer_boomerwoomer8500]

Geometry at its finest

[@MrSimpsondennis]

I mean, changing the boardshape obviously will affect the strength of pieces.

[@That_One_Kobold]

This is good, as to how to fix the Rook you should make it move in a straight line in the directions the current squares faces are.

[@gregallan4291]

You didn't actually explain why it's better, you just mentioned the difference in angles and symmetry.

[@techtheuwumaster9177]

They explained how bishop work in regular chess and applied the same logic, that's explaining

[@doomse150]

One idea that could maybe be nice to restore overall board symmetry would be to have the board consist of two big triangles (like the ones used as your current board), connect them at one baseline (forming a big rhombus) and have the players start at the opposing points (the sharp corners of the big rhombus). Maybe that's worth looking into?

[@robiginal]

I hate to tell ya but maybe chess just doesn't work with a triangular board

[@Tovosx2]

He is aleast trying 😭

[@Nae_Ayy]

Of course it does

[@AnaseSkyrider]

Boomer.

[@Sai-e5b]

True lol

[@ValkyRiver]

If people keep complaining that is…