Why Edmonton Trading Jeff Petry To Montreal Wasn't Actually THAT Bad After All | NHL Trade Trees

[@Kyle-kt9qr]

Do an entire episode of Chiarelli screwing over Edmonton with bad trade after bad trade. A solid 4 bad trades in a row to destroy Edmontons present and future

[@dashhoy2579]

It didn’t destroy it... He did screw us a bit

[@ryans413]

How many times did the Islanders screw Edmonton. PC always traded with the Islanders and always got screwed

[@Mitch91PyroisB0SS]

Yeah man I’m for sure he intentionally tried to ruin the oilers and bury them into the ground

[@ryans413]

@@Mitch91PyroisB0SS No I believe he wanted to help but he was just a bad GM and other GMs knew he was bad and screwed him. Plus his ego got in the way he wanted to be known as the GM that made big moves but the thing with big moves you better have a plan cause it can screw a team badly. PC big move was to trade Hall for a right shoot D man. Okay fine but what’s the plan after that was the problem he made his move then had no plan. Before that traded the 2015 second 1st they had for god dam Rienhart. Instead of using it draft Barzel. Can you imagine Hall McDavid Barzel with Leon playing with Yamamoto and RNH top two lines be set. He also traded Gaggula away and Ebbs and Petrey and Schultz. Got rid of a fan favourite in Maroon that was playing pretty well for Edmonton and brought in Manning the guy that admitted to purposely breaking McDavids collar bone. He also signed MK to a dum contract hurting the cap space even more before he left he fired Todd who I liked as a coach even though we got Tippet who I also like but man the only positive I can think of is PC getting Leon and McDavid on nice friendly contracts. I think Ken done a better job with only one season under him isn’t that crazy and PC had 4 years. And oh sighed Lucic got rid of Hall to fill the spot with Lucic great move there

[@krisrolph1058]

YES! I want to see OILERS FAN STEVE tear into Chia

[@BananaHammer3]

The problem with the Petry trade was that if we still had him, we wouldn’t have had to trade Taylor Hall to replace him a year later...

[@thesilver1699]

Yea but who would you rather have MCDAVID or hall like come on I’m an hall fan but it a clear answer

[@rockstermaniac]

@@thesilver1699 id say both but the oilers would be in cap hell by now

[@thesilver1699]

@@rockstermaniac yea we would

[@RT-nh6mw]

The real problem is that you guys didn't get to see Boyd Petry as an Oilers fan.

[@SamGautreau7]

And if you didn't trade Hall, you wouldn't have had to sign Lucic to try to replace him that offseason. And if you wouldn't have signed Lucic, you would have enough money to sign Hamilton or maybe even Hall this offseason

[@patricktremblay4573]

The Craig Rivet trade from Mtl to SJ

[@crazypants-zk4wg]

Ya that tree is insane. Apparently even the trade for Jake Allen is part of it

[@josephbatnjana159]

Yesss!!

[@jerryjanik480]

And the Sabres gets screwed with the Craig rivet trade

[@genevieve4679]

yessss pleaseee

[@pedromaleque3786]

Do it!!! Legendary trade tree

[@liam9616]

That “we dont care, Jeff Petry rules” is so accurate lmao

[@alexgiglio899]

Marian Gaborik Trade Tree Rangers to the Blue Jackets

[@alexgiglio899]

I will never stop suggesting this until it happens

[@sushamiboy]

That should be a good one!

[@truehockeyfan1179]

It ends in Nate Thompson to the Flyers

[@Lukedolan33]

I have been asking for this trade forever!

[@reillymclaughlin9577]

The Nash and Gaborik trades are actually connected

[@shalewarbringer7848]

As an Habs fan, all I have to say is thank you Edmonton!

[@politicalbandwagon4989]

@Mario Paganini Nah

[@Trinimac345]

Yikes 😂

[@younganddumb6909]

Ahah nah

[@seanhenderson5996]

The problem with justifying the Petry trade with the acquisition of Talbot is that it assumes that the trade for Talbot couldn't have happened using other picks.

[@Manbearpig00003]

Yeah, its a pretty big stretch.

[@Skurbbz]

Nah, the price for Talbot that off season was insanely high. The NYR has the excuse saying what he did when Hank left was a real good pull for them, there was a lot of teams that offered for him but they wanted to send him West if anything

[@oliviergaudreau2733]

The trade tree’s expending with that petry trade

[@harmsm3]

MacTavish Trading away Jeff Petry led to Chiarelli blowing a 1st and 2nd on Griffin Reinhart. Keep Petry, draft any of Kyle Connor, Barzal, Aho, Chabot (hindsight 20/20). We then traded Hall for Larson after Griffin Reinhart didn't pan out.

[@jeeplivion]

The Petry deal wouldn't hurt so bad if we did end up with barzal 😑

[@pachidermo]

This is very true. As a Habs fan? Do not care. Jeff Petry rules. Jeff Petry freakin' rules.

[@Habsfan1998]

Habs defenitly win

[@TheMarketBluprint]

how mcdavids the best player in the world

[@adamjanks4966]

@@TheMarketBluprint the point is if we Montreal didn’t get petty there is no guarantee we get mcdavid

[@kennywilson5422]

Definitely

[@doaftheloaf]

@@TheMarketBluprint mcdavid is not a direct result of the trade. that's how. the oilers didn't even finish last, they just got some draft lottery luck. so he doesn't count when evaluating the trade.

[@albertvanular433]

@@TheMarketBluprint Sorry to STRONGLY disagree. Until McDavid wins something (anything) Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin are still the best.

[@grahamvandervechte4876]

that kesler goal still drives me crazy how in the hell does that count?

[@positiveminus11]

Duck Kesler

[@user-iz3gv5vo6b]

And the Perry interference as well! The refs for 2 games let the Ducks play rugby with Talbot.

[@blockland30]

Not gonna lie I still think about it sometimes at night. I don't think I'll fully ever get over that series lmaoo.

[@emileajar9880]

I'm a habs fan and it shock me hahaha

[@imperialaggron]

Win win. We continue to love Petry, they continue to rake in assets.

what assets jeff petry is god

[@Chaseonfire]

The only reason it's a good trade for the oilers is because it made them a worse team and they won the draft lottery.

[@geoffrust6787]

But it was “the” lottery. Was that not enough?

[@pierrepellerin249]

So Petry, 5+ good seasons and counting for 1 good season of Talbot and a 6th or 7th D man. sounds like a pretty bad trade for the Oilers. Unless you figure they were gonna lose Petry for nothing if they hadn't made that trade. In that case, 1 season of Talbot is better then nothing.

[@joer8854]

Revisionist history at its finest. Edmonton fans never change.

[@VoIcanoman]

Agreed. I don't know how anyone can look at this and think that Montreal didn't win this trade. Edmonton could have re-signed Petry. Hell, they could have done so, and also sabotaged their team another way to lose games and win the draft lottery. And they could have even found another way to trade for Talbot (who they then proceeded to trade to Philadelphia for Anthony Stolarz, who played in 6 games with Edmonton and won...none of them). And like you said, Talbot was only a decent goaltender in ONE season for the Oilers. So the only piece that really counts here is Caleb Jones, and I agree with you there too...he's a career bottom-pairing guy...if he had the tools to be more, we'd have seen flashes of them by now. Over the last 3 seasons, Petry has been a top-20 defenseman by points AND goals. And he plays the right side, which seems to be the more in-demand kind of d-man. Not just that, he also plays the powerplay, he plays a physical (but responsible) game, and he's been a clutch guy in the playoffs. A mediocre goaltender and a bottom-pairing LD do not balance out what Petry has been (and what he WILL be - he's still got at least 3 decent seasons left in him). Also...if Edmonton had kept him, they would NEVER have made the infamous Hall for Larsson deal. They could have kept Hall - after all, he still had 4 years left on his deal at $6 million AAV at the time they traded him, so he would almost certainly have been a player they could AFFORD to keep, and not risk cap hell, even considering they had to pay Petry $5.5 million (which was the deal he negotiated with the Habs). This is because McDavid and Draisaitl were both on ELCs for both 2015-16 and 2016-17, and McDavid's went until 2017-18...so they could have had THREE MORE YEARS of a team with McDavid, Hall, Draisaitl AND Petry, before maybe having to trade Hall (who, let's not forget, was a Hart-trophy recipient in 2017 with the Devils). Now THAT Oilers team would have been scary...imagine how well their 2017 playoff run would've gone with Petry and Hall on board. I think we can be assured that they'd have beaten the Ducks, and maybe even made it to the Cup Final. Years of observations have convince me that the Oilers management has NO CLUE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. None. Now this is slowly starting to change, but they wasted like, 5 years of McDavid's talent figuring it out. It's shameful.

[@robertcop8825]

@@joer8854 Revisionist for Habs. It took 3 years for Jeff Petry to explode in Montreal. At the time it was an okay trade. Don't think anyone expected Petry to blow up like did.

[@TheFreezer87]

Most Oilers fans wanted to resign him although he probably wasnt that interested, so I dont know what your revising. and it was 2 great years for Talbot including an underrated 2017 season, when die hard fans were calling him the teams mvp

[@Flower-sq3gr]

Jeff Petry now has 20 points in 21 games

[@Trinimac345]

Now has 2 points in 27 games

[@fabolous514]

@@Trinimac345 salty much

[@Trinimac345]

@@fabolous514 salty is irrelevant when it is completely true.

[@alexandrechaput1227]

Please do the complete Craig Rivet trade tree from Montreal to San Jose

[@SURVIVORkid23]

I think it’s ridiculous to try to insinuate that this trade played a significant roll in Edmonton landing Mcdavid. If you just look at the pieces involved Montréal absolutely destroys Edmonton in this trade tree, it’s not even close.

[@spooley]

Exactly, but loudmouth schnook has to gin it up for clicks. SN needs to dump certain pieces starting with Dingle

[@joer8854]

"Sportsnet never does anything on team's besides the Leafs, do something about the Oilers." Sportsnet does an Oilers trade video Same fans: Fire everybody I hate You!

[@leo1fun]

the argument he made was not about mcdavid, it was actually about talbot and how he became quite important later.

[@joer8854]

@@leo1fun I love wings fans because they are Leafs rivals and at the same time very reasonable for the most part when it comes to other teams including the Leafs. I know a ton of wings fans who are like, "Yo, I love going to Toronto and catching a game." They still talk about what the Leafs need but are mostly reasonable about it. I know a wings fan who said Babcock needs to go (before he was fired) then said they need a better right side D but the forwards need to be more defensively responsible. I thought about it and I knew about the defensive aspect but I argued against getting rid of Babs and didn't think the forwards were that bad at D. He was totally right.

[@leo1fun]

@@joer8854 yep. Agreed about all of it. The wings actually have had mostly the same problem you're talking about (well, I think good right-handed Dmen are the most rare thing in hockey today for everyone), specially with the recent crop of forwards who were traded (Athanasiou, specially). And after them, the current forward group is just a mix of young talent which will be bad defensively with some random rebuild players.

[@segasys1339]

Excellent analysis! It's easy forget how much nuance there is in a trade. From the Montreal perspective it looks comically one-sided, but in truth I distinctly remember thinking at the time of the trade who tf is Jeff Petry, briefly checking his stats, and then forgetting all about it until Petry broke out of his shell and showed how smart and poised he is. It really wasn't clear at the time of the trade he would mature so incredibly.

[@francoeurtim]

Fun fact: in 2015-16 Ben Scrivens played for Montreal. I saw two games at the bell centre in February and it accounted for 40% of his wins as a hab.

[@andrewmoulton7429]

This is a bit of a stretch not gonna lie lol

[@ct-117]

And now we have Mike Matheson from this trade. And then we got Petry back with some picks a year later. (Mostly for the picks though)

[@kujo429]

should do the Ryan O’Reilley trade from the Avs to Buffalo

[@jerryjanik480]

Oh god. Oh why why why is the Sabres why why did someone say O'Reilly whatever happened to him I heard he won the Conn Smythe trophy and Stanley Cup

[@RetepAdam]

Hey, it’s still humming along for the Avs!

[@mcj88]

8:16 - I mean, it didn't even work out for Milhouse's team, the Gougers. "Oh, defense, defense, c'mon! You call that blowing?!"

[@jw2676]

I love these so much, they never fail to educate as well as entertain. I don't know if this would count as a trade tree or a trade forest (trade river?) but I'd love to see a trade tree for someone like Jarome Igninla or Jaromir Jagr, who's been traded a lot with all the subsequent trade activity but also primarily follows a single player through his career. I'd also really love to see Steve's take on things like how a single draft pick in 1979 led to the Stastny dynasty. A trade that begins with a player from in a country that no longer exists (Czechoslovakia) is almost sure to have an interesting ending. Also--is it just me or do certain teams just not appear very often in these trees? I'm a Pens fan so that one stands out for me, and if memory serves, I think the only major Pens presence was the tree for Phil Kessel. But I'm sure it's not just them--it feels like the Flyers don't get much face time either, except in the Eric Lindros and Jeff Carter trees. I'm not as up on the Western division but I don't think the Wild or Stars have a major presence either. I wonder if that's due to teams making deliberate choices as a part of a coherent trade strategy that just doesn't lead to interesting trading--for example, not trading away and then re-acquiring players a la Chicago. Or it might be more about who's available for trading; for instance, the Pens don't really have high-profile players that don't really lend themselves to trade trees. (The young star players the Pens drafted in the early-mid 2000s are mostly still with the team, and Fleury, as an expansion draft pick, wouldn't have a trade tree either.) I suppose it could just be that no one has a particular interest in certain teams, though not in the sense that they're biased. If you aren't familiar with some of the names in play, potential trades with meat on their bones just aren't on the radar. Regardess, I'm always curious about the creative process that goes into making these types of videos, so if there's ever a "behind the scenes" I hope they explore how and why they chose the trades that they did.

[@BFMDL]

REQUEST: Trade History of GM Rejean Houle or the ART of DEMOLISHING A TEAM to Ashes! Pretty Much a Mike Milbury Student.

[@sportsmaster1364]

Oh dear God, not THAT clip... STEVE! I'm sending you the bill for my therapy from now on!

[@Joeysmalls3119]

This is my fav series on KZbin

[@NotTHEColinDoyle]

Add the Duncan Keith trade to this tree now

[@wyattmack9071]

No 😂

[@TheShaggster37]

How long before you'll revisit a trade tree? This one continues on both sides.

[@DanielMercato]

Well...... i need to get my therapist again.

[@MafiaGuido]

Rick Nash to NYR trade tree. Doing this one also takes care of the Marian Gaborik trade tree. Kills 2 birds with one stone. 3 weeks and counting.

[@DolynnyTV]

Who did it better?

[@strengthministries3454]

That Gustafsson comment at 12:06 had me rolling on the floor lol!

[@rwl5581]

Steve, do you do updates? Petry is now in Pittsburgh.

[@ayoitsadam5945]

I loved Cam in New York, he came up huge when hank got injured. Was so good i was surprised they didn't play him in the playoffs that year instead of hank

[@mohammedel-assaad9143]

Hey steve you need to update your trade tree, some updates today

[@SlamJamMcCam]

"Sorry for the years of therapy undone showing that clip" ... You know what, I think this is the first time I laughed leading up to this clip. I also had the realization where we were going, and verbally said "Oh no" to no one, but... progress?

[@keios1676]

keep up the trade trees! they are so interesting to see how the picks, and trades work out few years down the road

[@timomajere]

Looks like this trade tree is gonna need updating with Petry in detroit now.

[@tchevrier]

kind of a stretch

[@aronjanzen]

I’d like to see a trade tree starting from the Kent Nilsson for Joe Nieuwendyk trade between The North Stars and Flames.

[@keelanbodiguel5835]

This is a massive reach calling this even. If we assume Petry resigns with Edmonton (decent possibility he would have) do they feel they need to go out and dump a mid 1st and high 2nd round pick on Griffin Reinhart on draft night? All of a sudden the Oilers would have still had the capital to acquire Talbot, keep Petry and avoid arguably the worst trade in Chiarellis tenure.

[@crazypants-zk4wg]

And could’ve drafted Barzal or I think maybe Chabot with that pick if he wasn’t taken already

[@jhill92]

I normally can't stand the videos of this Leafs fan but you known what? I'm having a good day and this was pretty entertaining. Might give the guy another chance after all!

[@OGS2099]

PATRICK ROY TRADE TREE

[@sportsnet]

He was part of the behemoth known as the Eric Lindros Trade tree already ;) ttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/o36adWWNib1lh6M

[@awildermode]

@@sportsnet That was more of a documentary. ;)

[@doaftheloaf]

@@awildermode if you want a documentary, convince him to do the neely/pederson trade. the pederson side is absolutely gigantic. sundin, luongo, and thornton are in it, for example. the neely side isn't small either, but more directly favors the bruins.

[@DownsyMB]

This is like a car accident, bringing back my PTSD from that playoff run but i cant look away. Great vid.

[@iangurudata]

Looking at where this trade tree stands now is fascinating. Caleb Jones was traded for Keith; who retired; and Tim Söderlund; who terminated his contract to play in the swedish league. Stolarz signed with the Ducks as a free agent. Meanwhile, Petry (along with Poehling) traded to the Pens for Matheson and a 4th in 2023.

[@gunsmithbasic]

Caleb Jones is also very promising

[@SerasXHarkonnen]

4:46 he looked like it at the start of the season, still, demon Petry has been our best blue liner all year, thanks Oilers!

[@TheJosephoenix]

Montreal isn't complaining

[@nickarmstrong6767]

man i absolutely love your videos and love that sportsnet hired you. i rarely comment on anything but its just... "you cant have your cake and it it too" is backwards. Because you can have a cake and then eat it. the saying is trully "you can't eat your cake and have it to" because the second you eat your cake you no longer have it.

[@keegansteedman1524]

Lol watchign this after the Duncan Keith trade

[@walkercuz7905]

This aged well

[@Débribu]

As a Habs fan, I'm quite happy with Jeff Petry but it's interesting to look at it from the Oilers perspective.

[@seyiadeodu5937]

Haven't watched - yet - pretty pumped to, that's Steve Dangle

[@InegoMontoya18]

Great stuff lol 😂 Got any Lightning Trade Trees?

[@BlakeLivelyManager]

This adhd guy is crazy , i have the feeling of watching a toy unboxing chanel with him

[@ethoslayer6838]

What about doing the Panarin for saad deal in 2017?

[@ethoslayer6838]

Or for that matter start with the original saad to Columbus for anisimov, morin and some other bits

[@BradyBanta]

UPDATE THIS PLEASE!!! With petry getting flipped for Mike Matteson to Pitt and Caleb Jones getting traded in the Duncan Keith deal!!

[@tuomasvalta]

Steve seems really underwhelmed with Caleb Jones. I know that he's not a future superstar like Rasmus Sandin or Timothy Liljegren, but could very well become a solid top 4 dman.

[@partypancake7287]

Think of this now with the Keith trade: by trading away Jeff petty, the oilers would go on to trade for Duncan Keith.

[@jparadis27]

You were spot on for the Habs fan reaction :P Still like your videos a lot ! Keep it up steve :)

[@bogmonster]

i dont comment often, just wanted to say nice video, i enjoyed it!

[@coreyhill681]

Do you think you can do Eric Karlsson trade tree, it won't be that huge but that is okay with me

[@juffan]

And now they turned Jeff Petry into Caleb Jones and then into Duncan Keith!

[@robertthomas4988]

Never thought I’d see Ben Scrivens ever again but I miss that man in LA.

[@mikekamysz]

Martin Jones was part of the Barry Pederson-Cam Neely trade tree which you should do next.

[@maxmarchildon1113]

Dangle: "Leafs are a dynasty/juggernaut!! We're only missing Weber, Gallagher, and Petry!! (SCREAMING)"

[@sheilduxs3055]

Here after they traded Caleb jones

[@martingiguere1202]

Here I am, with Jeff Petry leading Dmen in points

[@shaman2384]

June 2021 disagrees with the message of this video.

[@felixbitorobbins5682]

The oilers absolutely got fleeced, Talbot is not a reasonable return and petry is one of the most solid 2D in the league. Also the Edmonton GM even said it was one of his bigger mistakes so... bit of a stretch

[@stanleykousik3485]

Looking at this trade right now, with how Talbot is the only recognizable name on the list that Edmonton got from this trade it’s hard not to say they got fleeced! Plus Petry has been consistent, could you imagine him playing right now with McDavid and Draisaitl, you’d be looking at the most points for a D-man consistently over the last two season. Not to mention look at the numbers he’s putting up right now! As a Habs fan, I love this trade and as an Oilers fan, thank God Chiarelli is gone lol

[@OrcDragon65]

How about one for a Sharks fan miserable over loosing Jumbo? I'd love to feel good and hear about the Brent Burns trade from the Wild

[@ExcelBreaker]

Oop, in hindsight the ending didnt age quite so well huh? Oilers swept first round and the habs are in the finals

[@darkvoid54321]

give us more steve, some people are addicted to drugs, but not me i am addicted to seeing all these trades wothout having to do research, some might say this is worse since i only get a fix once a week

[@oliviagallagher4138]

Montreal won this trade... why try so hard to prove that Edmonton didn't lose this trade that bad? The only asset they still have is Caleb Jones, but c'mon Petry was the best piece in the deal. I've never seen a trade tree video before where they tried to show "well they didn't lose THAT bad:

[@moinkyz1831]

And now you can add...... Duncan Keith to the Edmonton side *yikes*

[@nathankennedy4263]

did Katz pay you some money to try and make this trade a positive? Lol

[@BryanHalo123]

It's harder to prove something as random as winning the lottery was helped by a tank trade, but it may have helped get EO get McDavid. Regardless, it's a good point you make on the complexity of trades. Moves to set up moves have to be considered in total. Kinda of the big deal of trade tree.

[@MultiOzzy87]

Never stop doing these

[@ladyredbeard]

Steve I feel like you would have some fun with the Brent Burns trade tree

[@reillymclaughlin9577]

The separate Nash and Gaborik trades between NYR and CBJ could be connected into one huge tree because one guy was involved in both. Could be interesting even though he's not the main piece

[@spartan2693]

The years of therapy I’ve had from that Kessler goal is a nightmare. Why did the NHL allow that, they also had an illegal goal against the flames too, I bet they paid the refs

[@ryans413]

Yep I don’t get it either

[@Waders27]

Blowing a 3-0 lead with 4 minutes left shouldn't happen either.

[@nadrodan9613]

@@Waders27 it wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for the refs two of the goals should’ve been called off their was the off side by Cam Fowler and the goalie interference by Kessler their is an argument to be made about Fowler but Kessler can’t be called a goal to send the teams into OT in the playoffs

[@elephamoose]

Camera focus seem a little weird in this one to anyone else? Like is it just me or does this one seem a little more fuzzy?

[@scottcoxworthy]

Hmm 2 good years of talbot and 1 playoff run or 6+ good years of petry and 2 playoff runs? and petry is still with montreal and a top 4 Dman. Ya sure I bet Oilers fans love that trade lmafaoooo...... I've seen Steve make some serious reaches but C'mon man this is laughable.Edmonton would be a MUCH better team with petry on there blue line now.To bad he's still a Hab lolol.

[@MrSpeck321]

petry>mcdavid????? lol

[@quasimoto7662]

Siegenthaler, not a bad pick

[@bsinger51]

May need to do an update down the line, now that Caleb Jones got traded to Chicago for Duncan Keith...

[@HatTrkPatrk]

In terms of "who got the best player" Petry tilts that scale In terms of "who won the trade" it's much more even

[@Silenceaverted]

I was at that game 7 against the ducks. Ducks fans were dumb chanting USA USA USA. Pretty embarrassing

[@pickle111]

And after this season looks like Talbot is indeed back in form with the Wild. Maybe a goalie that needs a little less workload and is just a solid goalie.

[@philippedrouin3008]

lol Petry is a great puck moving d man. Definitely better than anything Edmonton has right now. I don't see how you can say that it wasn't a bad move by Edmonton.

[@CanadaMikeB]

I was vocal from the get-go on why trading Petry was dumb. In the three years following that 2017 playoff run, they missed the playoffs twice in 2018, 2019, and you can argue they didn't make it in 2020 losing to Chicago in the play-in round. Why? Defense defense defense. It can be argued that the Petry trade started a whack-a-mole set of trades. To make up for the loss of Petry on the top right side, Chiarelli had to trade TAYLOR HALL for a right shot defenseman with Adam Larsson, who has declined year after year in the last three years. Sure, Chiarelli getting Andrej Sekera as a top left d-man free agent most certainly helped their 2017 playoff run but he wasn't a cost-effective long-term solution and I think was bought-out. So then after Hall was traded, Chiarelli signs Lucic to a fat deal, and then after 2017, Eberle was traded, and with Lucic's decline in production, everyone complained about there being no real scoring wingers for all the years since, save last season with Nuge and Yamamoto with Draisaitl (the REAL top line). So it seems your whole argument is that the Petry trade was a win because it helped tank the 2015 season to 4th last place allowed the hockey gods to gift Connor McDavid, which was followed by a non-playoff year, then finally with a decent goalie and the 2017 playoff run. But after that? No top scoring from the defense on the right side save some Ethan Bear last season has been a HUGE HOLE for the Oilers SINCE Petry. I'm sorry, but total luck in getting McDavid doesn't make up for that fact. Luckily, the Oilers have been percolating right side d-men like Bear and Bouchard and they'll only get better.

[@tampabayproductions7934]

As a tampa fan I’m looking forward to the McD and Miller trade tree that’s still working itself out

[@AKmumu]

And this year Petry has 42pts in 55 games, he really gets better with time

[@LeviGrant006]

Wild fan here and I just got VERY excited for 2021!

[@felixlavigne01]

I can't believe you chose Milhouse in your comparison instead of Goldberg.

[@leo1fun]

btw guys, before you talk about how montreal fleeced the oilers, petry just took a whole other step in his career after the trade, so try to keep his value in mind before the trade was made. Montreal won the trade for me as well, but it's not like they traded a perennial 40 point dman at the time.

[@dancingbabybins]

Kessler being allowed to decide games by jumping on goalies like it was even the first or 2nd time he did that in a playoff format.

[@benchow8851]

Tanking for a player is generally not beneficial because it hurts the franchise overall. You lose fans, which loses money for the team, and the player you get from tanking isn't guaranteed to pan out...