Why Electric Cars Aren't The Answer! | Workshop Update No.56

[@iwonbigbro]

There's only one positive on an electric car. It's right next to the negative.

[@dominicbarne5218]

See what you did there, i doth my cap sir

[@garyhoward2628]

That friend is the funniest thing I've seen for ages

[@emilsgargurnis]

Nice

[@robsonenduro3316]

actually they're quite opposite :)

[@kcsbrokenmug1368]

Ricky mate, I had a 2021 RS6 that had to go in for rear axel bolt recall. Anyway, the technician had trouble getting the rear steering and park assist and 360 cameras working, so at 7 pm, they said we need more time, we are going to give you our etron 55 jeep home, smiling. Said you'll love it. My first words were, it would need to have a full charge on it as I'd heard they were particularly bad on range vs real life." So they gave me it round with 240 miles range on the clock. On my 40-mile journey home, driving at motorway speed and conservatively, I pulled into my drive with the range reading 65 miles! How the heck can you lose an extra 135 miles on a 40-mile trip!?. Anyways next morning I took it down to my local council charger...not a fast charging unit, but 2 hours charge time gave me an extra 60 miles to total 95 mile range. Mate, I pulled into Audi after a 2.5h journey at 30-40mph in efficiency mode with 5 mile range left on the clock!. The service manager came out smiling and said, fancy one for a great every day car. I told him the story and said, "Please fetch me my v8 that I can pull in and fill up and be on my way in 5 minutes and get 280 miles range with some spirited driving. It's a joke, mate. I've never been so stressed in my life. Also, another point with regards to EVs . How are you going to insure them? With the amount of them catching fire.... ie Luton Airport new multi-storey carpark going up. I can see shopping centres and airports banning them. Not to mention also the amazon prime ev Mercedes sprinters doing a staggering 65 miles range on a full charge. When I was look to purchase a van I noticed so many amazon prime vans in the service yard. I said to the sales guy, "woah, Amazon must be a good customer. He said in a low voice, they are all break downs we tow in about 30 a day mate." Run out of charge after 65 miles! Where's my soap box? That's a podcast on its own, mate. Anyways, I love the content. I love the banter and has to be my favourite channel on KZbin. Keep up the good work, mate.

[@ethelred2648]

Luton airport fire was a diesel vehicle. My Tesla says 280 miles and does 280 miles. Just because you were loaned a problematic and poor EV should colour your already biased opinion. You’re just seeing bias confirmation. I have a Caterham and a Honda bike so I love petrol, but my Tesla is unassailable as an everyday car. So you can regurgitate all the anti-EV stuff you’ve ever heard but, in the end, you’re pissing in the wind.

[@paulacklam1172]

​@@ethelred2648well documented that the luton fire was a diesel vehicle. Was even on the BBC. People have lost the ability to maintain balance

[@dowserdude]

Possibly the most logical rant on you tube.

[@N4942H]

I have binge through more informed car videos from you than anyone else on YT

[@hotblackdesiato3451]

Good to see the Morgan owner in regulation Tweed jacket and flat cap.

[@toastrytoaster]

And red trousers of course

[@dennisreid4428]

In the rant you missed out the forging of steel. now they're either powered by steam (umm what they burn to create the steam) or electricity. As an electrician my biggest worry with all this electric car crap, is that the cables in the ground were put in when people had very few electrical items in their homes. I can see the cables outside homes melting along with the pavement they're buried under. Yaay fit electric chargers willy nilly but,remember the infrastructure has not been updated since the 1960's. A full street of electric chargers will create massive power drains and power outages,think about that all you greenies when you're freezer is defrosting along with your Tofoo

[@benadams6019]

RE investigates, love it. Point made with educated and researched evidence. Once again sir well played

[@kevinkeelan354]

Their aim isn’t to get everyone into a EV. It is to end private car ownership

[@briandarnell5966]

Love that you have done the research. I totally agree with you and hope you continue with the rants.

[@paulsidaway8730]

Absolutely Bang on about the EV's, and the reality is that 'rant' is only just scratching the surface

[@ktmmoto5317]

Love a good rant with a 96 CR 250 in the background.

[@neiltitmus9744]

Even without what you said we cant supply the electric to charge them all without 75% more generation

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

people said the same thing about not enough gas stations when ICE cars started.

[@neiltitmus9744]

@@Jojo-o6o6w maybe that was true too then

[@TheCerovec]

Generating electricity isn't the problem. It's the distribution network that's already at it's limit's in most European cities. But who cares,we are gonna enjoy ice vehicles for sure till the end of our lives.

[@carlplaczek7229]

Your BEST one ever, all so very true.

[@harveymcvicar7236]

Best rant yet Ricky and couldn’t agree more 👊 then sitting in front of a 2 stroke 👏👏👏

[@163739]

Geoff buys cars, did the whole Lands End to John O'Groats, you should do a co-lab...

[@adriancoppola3729]

Spot on Ricky - I collect and deliver cars for a living and I and my colleagues all agree vigorously with you - and you’ve not even touched on the huge challenges of recycling the batteries. Lots of toxic substances involved. Scrap yards hate electric cars as they all too often catch fire in the yard as the batteries are so easily damaged.

[@justinsheldon5015]

Electric car 'user' here. Cupra Born as a company car. Benefits are BIK. No other reason why I have this. I have free use of a supercharger at work to charge . If I compare BIK's for all types of current vehicles. As an average , we worked out my car cost me £20 a month, a hybrid , would be about £250 a month inc fuel card and full petrol from about £360 a month inc fuel card. For me and as my boss said ' this is what the government want us to use now, so we use this until they come up with something better'. So, we do use these cars. Why would I want to give 4 grand a year to the government ? From use of the car. I have covered 18 k miles this year. Servicing is nil, tyres are nil. People say about the weight of the cars and yet they are the same as a Range Rover. My tyres ( the rear wears quicker) are about 10k ish off needing replacing. Fronts are hardly worn. Brakes and brake dust is another thing people bring up, but using regen , means the motor slows you down, so my discs are rusty as not used that often except when I stamp hard. I know the ev thing is not the answer. Never thought it ever was. But look back in history and see that nothing from cats to DPF to egrs has ever been the real solution. The world just jumps about and hopes this will be ok than actually be a proper solution. We have a petrol car as the wifes, we own, in a Cupra Formentor 310 EA888 which we use for long journeys . This was at Cupra Swindon a couple of weeks ago , broken, so we used my Born to go from Newbury to Sunderland. What was usually a 4hr journey by petrol was 6 1/2 hrs with charging and driving at sensible speeds to get the distance. Remember in the winter the battery hurts the distance. In the summer, I get 330 miles ( genuine as 77kw battery) and when its cold, I am down to 220 miles. Thats a big difference. Remember that running on a motorway at speed, you also dont benefit regen , so you cant easily recoup miles , like local pottering. The whole of this senario is government and world 'green' run. But as you say, its not green at all. Its smoke and mirrors and devious that the government are , they cannot supply figures to show how this whole EV system is ever sustainable. What the next move for vehicles will be, I dont know . Hydrogen ? or maybe we go back to petrol or diesel and they proclaim again its the best fuel to use. All , Wishy Washy Rishy has just stated we need more gas fired power stations today , as we cannot support wind and solar. So, they still can't get anything right.

[@kingGar27]

Good to hear your side of the story. The long EV trip sounded frustrating! The government is definitely betting that the technology curve for batteries will catch up with policy ambitions. Nobody is saying the tech is available today. The point is to incentivise companies to invest in it. To that extent, it's fairly logical policy making. Could be better, could be worse! Of course, the consumer ultimately pays! That's the annoying part for me! But we could always take the train or walk, I guess! And if we don't like it, vote accordingly. Starmer has even softened his EV stance because the UK electorate aren't buying into EVs! Fossil fuels run out at some point, so that's probably not the long-term option. Hydrogen isn't very energy dense and takes a lot of energy to split hydrogen and oxygen. So probably not the solution either, albeit maybe for industry. JCB invest a lot here, as what use is a Li-ion powered digger when the battery runs flat! EVs are probably the best of the worst options, longer term. For now, enjoy your EA888!

[@andrewbaron8713]

Last comment today, Harry’s Farm of Garage fame, this year is only growing crops on 100 acres of his 300. Acre farm because the government are going to pay him more not to grow crops than he can earn by growing crops. Hundreds of farmers are doing the same. That’s thousands of acres that could be growing bio fuel crops.

[@Gorbyrev]

...or food. Madness.

[@TekAutomatica]

Or actual food! Have a look at what is happening across Europe and West - massive reductions in food output in the name of climate. Huge farmer protests are not simply about greedy supermarkets or expensive fertilizer (that rose long before Ukraine tragedy). #nofarmers_nofood kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqKYoqCvjrOqfs0

[@Peterbrendanalbert]

Or ganja.

[@Peterbrendanalbert]

Madness

[@bearsey26]

That, was the best rant about EV’s I’ve ever heard on YT and you are absolutely right. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve nearly been run over by an EV, silent killers, I love old muscle cars and I have a sticker in the windscreen that says, ‘Loud pipes saves lives’ and how true that is, my V8’s are loud, but I’ve seen pedestrians literally stop themselves walking out in front of me, because they’ve heard me coming! We were taught at the ‘Tufty Club’ which specialised in road safety for kids, to STOP, LOOK and LISTEN! As for those poor kids mining that toxic crap to please the tree huggers, that’s worse than disgusting! Easy solution to offset CO2 is to plant more fucking trees!!!! Ideal field trips for kids to collect acorns and conkers, go plant them in baron areas and forests will grow to replace the ones the councils sneak around at night cutting down! EV’s? Biggest load of bullshit I’ve ever heard!

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

🤣

[@chrisforster1388]

Ev and ice owner. I've had my tesla for 2 years, tech & acceleration amazing. no problems, charge at home while I sleep. Battery parts can be replaced, and cobalt is being fazed out already. 1/4 the cost of ice to run. No servicing. I still love my cbr1000,205gti, corsa vxr but daily evs are king. Get out and drive one for a week and open your mind. Love the channel just ignore the ev haters' poor information. Facts are king. More evs leaves more petrol for the petrol heads in the future 😂

[@andrewbaron8713]

Been into cars since I was about 25, rode bikes before. Currently help at a car sales place so have lots of chats about electric cars. One friend phoned 2 and a half years ago to ask if he should buy hybrid or full electric for his other half. She could charge it at work for free, so I said go electric. They got an ID4 and work and back was fine. Range drops by over half on the motorway. They drove to Oxford from here in the north west, had to charge on the way down as its range dropped below 150 miles. So a two hour stop to charge it. Coming home they drove all A roads and it was still at half charge when they got home but the journey was 5 hours . Lease is up in 6 months, he phoned the other day to ask which petrol car to buy as the charging network in his words is just way to small. Also the free charging at work now has a queue of cars trying to get plugged in. Guy Martin did a drive from his house to John o groats in an EV, you don’t need to do a race , he has the answer in his program. It will take significantly longer in an EV and be more expensive.

[@normandagger7542]

Excellent rant, totally agree

[@willllllssey]

The fact this rant took place next to a two stroke 👍🏻 respect and thanks

[@brianmurray2217]

Ricky the way you are just being yourself you will do well at podcasting Good luck

[@whyldsteve]

P.S. I Love my VW Golf 2.0 diesel, 155k miles £25 road tax 60+mpg. cost me £2k and looks mint in Tornado red!!!!

[@davidthegolfer]

Ricky you are so right to air this. And another thing. What about car poverty in the future. At the moment if someone needs a car to get to work and can’t afford much. They can buy a clunker and the mates network will keep it going. In 15 years time when there are no clunkers, what are they going to buy. A discarded EV which may at any time need a battery. Oh, and what about all the Co2 that was expended on making an ICE , and these are going to be crushed before end of life. EV and preferably hybrids are part of the solution but not ALL of it. Well done Ricky, for kicking this off. Also see some of Harry’s Garage where he has frequently analysed EVs etc as a problem.

[@tdimac]

I’ve said for years that loud exhausts save lives. Please do the merch. The fact that the dirty truth behind the EV market isn’t known or talked about is just horrifying and the lack of value placed on human life is terrifying !! I’ll never have an EV so long as there’s breath in my body 💪🏻

[@pearman2477]

You can't beat a 2 stroke

[@jamieMcC]

So looking at the mileage figures manufacturers release. Small EV’s take nearly 50K miles, mid size 70k miles, large size 100k+ miles to offset the damage to the environment ie that distance driven before you start being green. I don’t know anyone keeps their cars for 50k? The incentives for EV company cars that are replaced every 3 years are just damaging the planet even more.

[@kingGar27]

First off, I'm not pro-EV. I drive a 2001 VW Passat PD130 and race bikes! So I'm not trying to take sides, but I am interested in the point you make, which is an important one to consider - i.e., what's the payback period for EVs, if any? You're right that there's a payback (or offset) period, but not sure about your figures. Maybe they're the figures if the comparative ICE car remains the same, e.g., a 1.4 TSI VW Golf or 2.0 520d. But I find it hard to believe that EV payback periods increase as the car size increases given ICE emissions increase with car size too. I could be wrong. One analysis I did was a 2023 BMW 520d versus a 2023 Tesla Model 3 Long Range, with both doing an average of 15k km (9.3k miles) a year and GHG/CO2 emissions of 331g/kWh from the grid. The EV begins to win out at the end of year 4 (so 37k miles). If the grid was greener or nuclear powered (as is increasingly the plan in the UK and elsewhere) the EV would offset it's emissions sooner. My figures account for lifecycle emissions, so include production, end-of-life, in-use, and energy production (for oil and electricity, respectively). Different assumptions and different comparative cars will yield different results, but regardless, when a 'wealthy' EV owner upgrades every 3 or so years, they're selling their car second hand to Joe and Mary Soap, so it remains on the road. Essentially, the government policy is for those who can afford EVs to subsidise the (used) market for everyone else. Provided the EV remains on the road for longer than the payback period, EVs win out in terms of emissions. There are EV drawbacks, but emissions isn't one of them. They win out here. Unless the grid is fully powered by coal maybe or your EV is an inefficient Hummer!

[@timothyfindlay6253]

You should also look at the cost or replacing wind turbine blades!

[@andyknight155]

The Rt Hon Ricky, transport Secretary! I'd vote😅

[@raykaufman7156]

Ricky and Dav, PLEASE clip out the electric car discussion and post it separately, so we can share it! You're right, no one is posting that take on the EV scam. They are promoting child SLAVERY.

[@markmac44]

25:33 Missing the point regarding EV’s and how there isnt enough raw material to cope. Hows this for a variation of perspective… You’re expecting everyone to still own a car, like it’s a given. Slowly they’ll price a car out of everyone’s affordability, so it becomes a luxury. The infrastructure in the UK cant handle the volume of traffic and it would cost billions to rectify it, but by reducing the volume of cars on the road, its fixes the issue, forces people onto public transport so then that industry gets investment…. 🤯

[@markmac44]

Makes me sound like a flat earther but to clarify Im not😂.

[@nickpappas4133]

I turned wrenches at a Audi/VW dealership for 50 years, when I was changing my electrical panel from fuses to circuit breakers I was asked if I will ever own a EV , my reply was a definite “ NO” . ICE forever.

[@nickynate629]

The Porsche Taycan has a RRP range of £86,555 to £134,526. Monthly payments start at £1,203. The price of a used Porsche Taycan on Carwow starts at £47,000. The Taycan range spans quite a wide price range, with the base Taycan costing literally half as much as the range topping Taycan Turbo S.

[@JockMurray-v1o]

Windmill blades come from the chemical industry. No oil no blades. Windmill masts come from the mining industry. No iron ore no steel. Ergo no electricity.

[@jack6trains]

Well said

[@7747bruno1]

Cracking video...again..👍👍

[@REPerformanceUK]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you

[@patrickjsj]

Absolutely agree with every thing you said about ev's. Also all those wind turbines and solar panels will have a lot of plastic and other materials made from foil fuels in them.

[@Gorbyrev]

And solar cells are not recyclable.

[@alcapony4935]

@@Gorbyrev Or the fibreglass in the wind turbine blades. They degrade and have to go to landfills.

[@Gorbyrev]

@@alcapony4935 Spot on. The power return for the use of materials is a fraction of what we get from a fission reactor.

[@alexbroadbent1300]

I think you'd have to be very unlucky to genuinely need a complete EV battery pack. VW group are rolling out battery repairs more and more now, most of the time it's likely either one cell or module in the complete battery that is lower on voltage/capacity than the others so you can only discharge the complete battery down to the minimum of the lowest/weakest cell but you then can't over charge the rest of the battery to bring that one cell up to 100% (cell balancing will only do so much). Or, it's a temperature sensor or a voltage sensor on the pcb on top of the cell module that has shat itself. HV battery repair is going to be a good money maker for independents in the future, people are scared shitless of them but from my experience on VW group stuff they're pretty damn easy to pull apart and replace a cell module (a Q7 Hybrid would have either 8 or 13 modules for reference), it's just making sure you don't do something dumb and zap yourself. *Disclaimer* I'm not a EV lover, just someone begrudgingly having to keep up with new car tech to stay in a job

[@AB-ow5hu]

I agree 5 mins to squirt fuel ⛽️ in .Long journey hours spent watching paint charging!

[@dankrafted]

the study Volvo put out about the environmental impact of their own EVs was very interesting. basically they only make environmental sense if you charge it from home with your own solar. if you have to plug into the grid, even if the energy comes from renewables it takes too long to pay off environmentally. and if you dont use renewables it basically never pays off as the battery will need replacing as it gets to the trade off point. the biggest issue is the infrastructure in this country. a friend from uni is a power engineer, goes and inspects generators on the national grid and all over the world. he has an EV as a company car, and said even if they throw everything at the grid to improve it, its a good 10-15 years before it will have capacity to deal with people charging cars.... you just have to think about the crude numbers. an average house uses about 2700kw in a year, and to do 10000 miles a year in an EV needs almost the same (2400kw) so the entire grid needs to double in capacity to meet that requirement, and thats only assuming 1 car per house... down the road from us is two families who between them have 3 model Xs and a outlander Phev, when they plug in to charge at home, they draw more electricity just for the cars than the entire street put together.... never mind where the materials come from to make the batteries, we wont be able to charge them for at least 15 years. plug in hybrid is the way, small light batteries for in town driving to reduce air pollution, and then petrol for the longer trips, and as battery tech improves you just swap out the older tech batteries and keep the same format. no one wants second hand EVs in the same way no one wants second hand phones. the tech gets superseded to quickly and your shiny new phone becomes redundant within 5 years... that and there are no independent garages who can fix EVs, or parts manufactures like there are for ICE cars, so the price of parts and servicing is controlled by the manufacture

[@TrondTillmanSynnes]

Big fan from Norway here. :) love your channel and the content you put out. I just had to comment on your rant, as you suggested we should. :) I think there is some nuance to the "EV kills children" bit. The thing is, though, since there are only two companies which own 90% of all the major companies in the world, no matter what you buy, you are enriching the people who are profiting from child slave labour.(Google who owns any large corporation, and you will see that BlackRock and Vsnguard are majority shareholders). The entire point of the climate scam agenda, is to transfer the responsibility for issues like child slave labor from these megacorporations to the consumer. These companies own and control goverments world wide, and could easily use their pull to ensure proper working conditions and the implementation of sound environmental regulations, but that would of course reduce shareholder profits. The main problems with using fossil fuels(which in fact has nothing to do with fossils) in an IC engine today, is the low efficiacy, and the poisonous emmissions(CO, not CO2, which is essential to all life). On a global scale, the damage to children(and adults) from the pollution from IC engines, is on a much larger scale than the damage to children working in cobolt mines. My point is not to condone child slavery, as I think the members of the boards of companies profiting from this practice, should be tried and convicted for crimes against humamity. My point is that electrical vehicles do serve a purpose, and are not worse than "regular" cars. Battery technology is improving by leaps and bounds every day, and new methods of producing electric energy are about to hit the market. After 8 years of driving a Leaf, I do know all about the dreaded range problem, but for a daily, it has been great. Especially here in Norway, where gas is £2 a litre(8£ a gallon). Last year, we got a 2018 Model S, and I absolutely love it. Now range is no longer a problem, and it is faster than most other cars. Of course, I'd much rather have an Aston Martin, but I could not afford neither to buy it, to fix it nor to put gas in it. Also, the S is designed by the same man who designed my fave Aston Martin, which is pretty obvious if you take a good look at it. EV's require almost no maintenance, and are next to free to drive, and also outperform most IC cars. Maybe you should try a model S, instead of the many subpar EV's before making up your mind. You are of course right about the impossibility of electrifying the global car market, and I would also much rather have a V8 or a W10/12, but let's face it, most of us could never afford to own one, or even pay the maintenace of such cars. BUT, you could get a used Model S for next to nothing, which drives like a supercar. The problem with batteries is greatly exaggerated, as is evident from the data. They hold up much longer than expected,(especially the 75D) averaging 1% decline every year, and you no longer have to switch entire batterypacks, as more and more companies are popping up, which offer to refurbish your batterypack for a fraction of the cost. Anyway, just my two cents.

[@TrondTillmanSynnes]

PS! I'd love to see you tune an IC engine using a hydrogen on demand system. This would increase efficiency, remove most emmissions, while boosting overall performance.

[@TrondTillmanSynnes]

PPS! Norway has hydro power, which is completely clean.

[@chrisgurr763]

Bang on Ricky!!

[@Theclarksonmtb]

currently you can do a 2 day course to work on EV'S level 3 IMI....I did, working on +600v DC electrical components is pretty skecthy, you will not get a 2nd chance, As the market expands the demands of technicians will increase and thus the chance of an accident will also increase, currently back street garages take in most vehicles to repair, at some point someone untrained on the specific product will have a go at fixing an EV.....scary stuff, no laws in place as yet, legally I can't work on my house's own 240 A/C as it takes years to qualify, 600V DC.....2 days🙃

[@MikeLloyd-z2s]

And DC will kill you faster and with more certainty, because unlike an AC current, once it gets hold of you, you can’t let go. You are dead! And it’s not voltage that kills you, it’s current. The considered lethal current is just 100-200 milliamps iirc, which is not very much, but even 30 milliamps can cause a cardiac arrest and even 1 milliamp will give you a painful shock! These EV batteries can deliver many many times the lethal amount of direct current, and keep sending it until you are very dead. It’s not something any amateur should be anywhere near!

[@philaddison7590]

I currently have 2 EV’s on lease, been less reliable than our previous 2 Volvos. Can’t wait for them to go back

[@rupe7810]

I went to the rps in Bristol a few years ago where they had an exhibition on the battery mines. Was shocking just like you say, all kids mining the stuff dressed in their shorts and t shirts and they were covered in the stuff from head to bare toe. How is this ethical let alone sustainable?

[@666markyboy]

Much love for throwing in Pantera

[@darksidedevelop]

What's the thoughts on hybrids ??

[@manisbho]

Soo glad we are all finally having this chat - all we have done with electric cars is push the carbon emissions above and below the end user in the production life cycle. There was a reason as to why they didn't work at the start of the last century and the same issues remain now in addition to the none social and economic consequences for people in less fortunate situations around the world. Well done Harry Metcalfe and REPerformance.

[@jimmyjt16]

Not to mention there’s hardly any garages that will repair them which means you’re stuck with the main dealers and their extortionate prices! They’re literally disposable items. I wouldn’t dream of buying one, especially one out of warranty.

[@01bogwoppit]

Good rant Ricky , keep digging and you will be horrified how deep the rabbit hole goes .

[@stephenbottomley8878]

Awesome at last the truth with no bullshit. F””ck electric ⚡️

[@davetalton6939]

I have a Tesla and love it, I do agree with a number of the points you make but it does have a number of positives. It’s a bit like e-bikes, you have to look at them differently.

[@derricksteed3466]

I read about someone in America who had already done the comparison of costs tests for a 1200 mile journey - about the same, but electric was slower due to charge time.

[@alanbromfield1387]

And there it is. In one rant Rick explains energy economics, the futility of net zero, and the myth of constant GDP growth.

[@Vteccer666]

the way the electric thing was explained to me was the amount of emissions made to build an electric car are the same as running a v12 for 100k miles

[@TekAutomatica]

Not quite. A new ICE SUV delivered to dealership in UK or Europe equivalent to 60,000 miles in an existing small hatchback - Gordon Murray. But EVs do require more materials than equivalent ICE.

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

lol you just believe everything youre told

[@paulfarghi]

Ricky, in your electric car rant... (Previous episode,) you state that the Swindon Audi scrap clean up resulted in EMR in Swindon crushing battery packs and destroying scrap crushing equipment. Can't find any references to this anywhere, What is your source?

[@andrewnewbould6067]

Geoff Buys Cars has already done the Lands End to John O'Groats trip with his mate (The MacMaster) in a Porsche Taycan and an average ICE Diesel trying to plan and be as fair as possible to the EV. The difference is costs and time taken etc were staggering. Nearly broke his mate with the Taycan. But would be fun to see it done with an ICE performance car too. What grinds my gears it the EV lies out there and no-onre reporting on the truth about costs / resources etc. New subscriber so look forward to future content.

[@AdamBurton-m7d]

I’m obviously very late seeing this video but love the EV rant. I’m one of those EV drivers for 6 years (bmw i3 then a Tesla 3) now, I never got one because it’s “green”, it’s not, I know.. but it’s very cheap for me to run, I enjoy commuting in silence and pre heated or cooled cabin. On the other hand I love driving petrol cars that make noise and full of fun. But my EV can be just as fun in a different way. I also prefer long drives in the EV even when charging can be pain, normally it’s not an issue though. Your point about waking up to no charge.. that has happened.. it’s not great but still.. I’ll keep going with it

[@chrislewis9014]

It would be really useful if you could post a link to source details the facts about electric cars. 🙏

[@Peterbrendanalbert]

Didn't mention the weight of them.

[@whyldsteve]

Ricky, I saw a similar race from London to Newcastle in two BMW's, one petrol and one electric. Not only did the petrol car get there first by about four hours but the electric one cost £12.40 more to make the journey! This government are 'avin a larf!!

[@garyhoward2628]

Loving the rant but the most factual and honest evaluation of the curse of the EV Ricky for PM or at the very least transport minister. Love the Alfa Romeo analogy

[@williamholmes9129]

You papping yourself, I'm having to do a first dad's wedding days speech for my daughter soon!!

[@GazMoby]

Fantastic rant. There is not one solar panel in the world that is 100% ethically made.

[@ashleygollop9100]

Well done Rick what a brilliant video I have been saying how crap electric cars ( milk floats) are for ages Has any one thought about how hard it is going to be to scrap electric cars when they reach the end of their lifecycle Rick have you ever thought about becoming a M.P I think most of us would vote for you Keep up the good work 😊

[@SpeedyBenjam]

Flicked this on after work. Final job card of the day was a Renault Zoe with a high voltage insulation fault. Carried out an assessment and reported my findings, sure enough the repair estimate was over 50% of the cars value! Keep you updated whether they give authorisation, but my guess is probably not so that will be another 5 year old car already in the scrappy 😂 Bloody joke 🤣

[@ianjehan4193]

Look into lithium how they have to mine and what to do with it when no longer needed there are going to be some big holes in the ground

[@Cloverleaf7642]

A rant on after market warranties would be interesting, Ricky. I have two Alfas, by the way.

[@julianalcock8658]

As ive said. Imagine the M5 on a summer holiday Saturday. How many chargers would you need to support that peak load? Each car takes at least an hour to refuel as opposed to 5 mins for Ice. And you only get a fraction of the range. And the range dies in cold weather and in really cold weather it won't charge.

[@fraserwright9482]

I live in Finland and have lived for 10 years in the UK. I used to spend €40-60 on fuel per month. I have had various cars both EV, hybrid and my Q7 diesel for long trips. The hole in the argument is it's always full as it trickle charges overnight, even when I was charging it at my local public charger last year (so high priced electricity of 80c/kw,) I spent €26/month. I have silly cars and a Q7 still for long journeys so I am not your typical example, but the cold and by cold -20C only messes with it if say you left it at an airport unplugged etc. You guys are all using Taycans as an example, in the same way EV people would use a Bentley. No one cries over deprecation or 13mpg and expects everyone to own one. Like nutters who drive Caterhams to Spain. Use your phone or your car tracker to plot your own usage, download an app to see where chargers are and take it from there. Also look at your average speed. The worse your traffic or commute the better an EV or hybrid is.

[@Evo836]

There now talk to stop Chrome for bearings

[@iankelleher5072]

We need a new Tshirt "Pops and bangs save lives"

[@Andrei_K1G1K]

120 years ago the arguments about getting rid of horses in favor of cars were not much different...

[@richardtasker9341]

Ricky absolutely brilliant couldn’t agree more with what you have just ranted on about. I’ve driven a Tesla 3 duel motor and it was very very quick, but the build quality was not great and they aren’t the best looking of things either, but above all that they are soul less. A Nissan 370Z for me all day long.

[@johnwasilewski964]

The future would have been fuel cell, but the government doesnt have the foresight to implement the infrastructure, with you all the way, great rant

[@rossyboyp1]

Don’t forget that outside temperature reduces range also. In Finland you lose 50% of range in winter. Also depending on country and how it generates its electricity could be coal fired generation then you gotta ask yourself why use an electric car. Also once they are done how do they recycle the battery? Normal cars get melted down and the metal is recycled easily. Toyota have spoken out about not using electric unless it’s hybrid and are looking more in to hydrogen.

[@fraserwright9482]

I live in Finland, I have used an EV and I have a Q7 tdi. No one is crying that a once €100k SUV in 2010 is worth €10k either. Yes you are correct the range goes down, this winter we had -20°C and my diesel doesn't start unless it's plugged into a block heater. Unlike my other cars the EV is full each morning. I have a hybrid and it's nice having the choice of fuel at €2/litre. All cars in Europe/UK pay for the recycling of a car when you buy it. It also explains why you get recycled materials in new cars as you can deduct these from this cost. We have a mechanical and hydrometallurgical processing plant in Harjavalta, 80% of a li ion battery can be recycled. I find a lot of the analogies used, driving to John o groats etc the same as my EV friends using a Bentley or Maserati as the benchmark of car ownership. But look at your Google map usage when you drive rather than hypothetical arguments no one is doing in real life other than to prove a point.

[@Jonwillsy]

Totally with you on the electric car issue! They are boring and soulless.

[@NotThisChris]

I'm with you, I think the future is multi-fuel-source. Full-electric cars I get, they're not for me, but I get that it works for some people and I get what they like about it. What I don't get is the misguided nature of trying to force everyone into one solution. Hybrids I get much more. I really like the idea of a hybrid sports car where I can put commuting miles on on the EV subsystem but when the road opens up I can switch on the combustion power train.

[@daniellane89dl]

According to stats ev sales dropped 34% and diesel rose 12% even though some manufacturers don't sell diesel anymore

[@haroldwhittle961]

They weigh 2tonnes + There destroying the road surfaces due the hard compound tyres

[@fraserwright9482]

So why are the roads in Spain in good nic and they have these demon vehicles? I lived in Britain and you never spend any money on resurfacing your roads, plenty of tax payers. But like many things the money never gets spent. Since 2020 you have €350m you were saving, sorry spending not paying for the EU.

[@TekAutomatica]

​@@fraserwright9482far bigger nation with less population density and fewer vehicles per km.

[@fraserwright9482]

​@@TekAutomaticaso how does the math work? Each car/truck is paying tax to use it, they pay fuel tax which increases with consumption. So you have more money per mile. Has your road suddenly fallen apart because your neighbour bought a Taycan this year. This isn't a new phenomenon since 2020.

[@paulfarghi]

Ricky you also said insurance is going up because of electric vehicles. Well according to ABI the reason is increased "cost of raw materials, repairs and the cost of paint” Yes at the moment electric vehicles are overpriced and therefore repairs will be more expensive but they only make up 17% of the UK market. It's not all because they are electric and pushing up insurance

[@tomlunn5332]

Love the ev rant 😂

[@carlwood9355]

Ive got an electric vehicle and it is only good for commuting to and from work (charge at work) but it has depreciated to 3rd of its original value in 2 years

[@peterlogan706]

Watched a video years ago on a farmer that was growing crops in Queensland Australia to make ethanol and he was using 2L of diesel to grow the crops that would make 2.4L of ethanol, then it needed to be made into e85 then transported to the servo’s, although e85 has its place in high hp it sure doesn’t make much sense for an alternative for general use when your using 30% more

[@davidhughes1316]

Definitely your best. No electric for me. Clio 197 and 2014 Fireblade

[@The748ducati]

Porsche now have a surplus of secondhand Tycan's and will not allow anymore to be traded in.

[@robertfanning4650]

How did the bike handle in Spain . Did the offset bars and lower seat do the business. Savage Channel..

[@amazulu3401]

Many years ago i heard a statistic that left me gobsmacked. Not sure how true it is now but it cant be much better. A vehicle, in its lifetime, on average, consumes no more than 10% of the energy that was used to build it. Excellent rant, totally agree. Hydrogen fuel cell is the future.

[@brianmurray2217]

Rick do you know what the UK's total carbon footprint is the figuris is 2% if we all had solar and electric cars it wouldn't make a difference

[@jamietynanjt]

I used to have a CR250 2 stroke. Scared the shit out of me. Especially when it started to run out of fuel on a jump and the engine ran on with the throttle closed!

[@jasonbeaven5231]

So true and totally agree about electric cars mate !!! Wish you could get this out there even more !!! 👍

[@brianroyle2533]

Hiya the paint colour on the wheels on ? R8 supercharged could you find out the code please i want to do my bike wheels in that colour. ps interesting channel

[@neiltitmus9744]

Thanks for shining the light more ,it just dont add up non of it does

[@loztagain8278]

it's a very good point that production just probably isn't even feasible given the actual resources of the world. These goals people set to do X by Y are often kinda arbitrary, and it feels like a situation where people have fallen for the idea that you can will something into existence. Similar to how someone like Elizabeth Holmes did with Theranos. "It's not real, but if I say it is, and people work towards it, maybe it will be?" It's a scam regardless if the intention is meaningless.

[@harrycalibra]

Loud pipes saves lives - old school biker looking forward to dumping my standard exhaust on my BMW S1000RR M Sport too bloody quiet.

[@simonsays2685]

I've built offshore windfarms, it's a massive con and not green energy. You have to use a lot of dirty energy and materials just to build it and the maintenance needed is unreal. Give it a few years and the used car market will be flooded with EV's nobody wants because of the potential maintenance costs.

[@justinmilsom7990]

@reperformance Ricky mate totally agree on the ev chat, their the most un-environmental mode of transport on the planet. Pops 'n' Bangs saves lives gotta be on a t-shirt that has. Great channel keep it up.

[@scottyc6087]

I've known this for awhile and have been amazed the fact we don't hear about it. It makes me sick that the world's governments are pushing this considering how many life's are lost from mining, manufacturing and even the end user. What's amazes me tho, I'm li-ion trained and was never told of how there made. No joke, I have to literally dress up in like a bomb suite to work on these things with oversized gloves, just fumbling around hoping I don't go good night! Sleep tight!

[@martinwilliams4354]

Should maybe the R in R E performance stand for rant? 😊