Why Every Great NBA Shooter Dips the Ball

[@ScotShotBasketball]

I know there's a fairly long self-promo "ad" in the video, but if I don't update all of you on what I'm doing with the channel, then no-one will know about it! If it bothers you too much, then just skip forward to 3:05 when the body of the video starts. Either way, enjoy the video and leave your thoughts in the comments!

[@travis447]

Scot Shot Basketball I agree. KZbin itself is a self promotion. You don’t need self promotions in your self promotion.

[@LevDenisov-afc]

Your shooting form is ugly (slow, not at peak). How can you coach others?

[@omarn.6215]

Update away. You're making great content

[@Kaysubi5]

Dipping kinda take power out my shot

[@kpupx0_04]

@@Kaysubi5 your probably dippping past your knees

[@nicolassiagian332]

Paul Hoover from Pro Shot is the GOAT it was the first channel I watched for my shooting form and it was very helpful

[@mahzih1tman592]

Your content is amazing! Could you make a video about release fingers? Index vs. Middle vs. Split.

[@sophiayao7041]

Yess

[@25mfd]

Another good vid. Scot shot is breaking the mold of traditional b-ball knowledge using physics, geometry and common sense. good stuff.

[@ScotShotBasketball]

Thanks

[@pepsiguzzler86]

Everyone tries to understand things in straight linear lines. It's good that someone is nerding out on shot form whilst considering true overall biomechanics. Centre of mass, momentum, ergonomics, acceleration of motion etc....... It's the same when you hear old school idiots talking about having both of your feet, hips and shoulders square to the basket. You might go up like that but it changes in the air and you don't release or land that way by any means.

[@rayallensjumper]

Make a vid on how Devin booker has changed his shooting form over time and how he actually has two different shooting forms

[@harpauldagreat]

Ray Allen’s Jumper good comment

[@fret0]

Ben Simmons does not dip and look at him... among the top 5 greatest shooters.

[@mrzack888]

This has aged horribly well.

[@patchy9292]

@@mrzack888 i can't tell if top 5 is a joke or not

[@killybabe6296]

Damn

[@Zay_Talks_Anime]

This helped me alot. For new comers follow this video, spread your legs and aim for the rim behind the rim closest to you

[@youngobama8125]

A dip is not needed in mid range. Only from 3+ when the player is gathering a lot of power from his legs.

[@graffix21]

Young Obama That is a really good point not mentioned in the video. Although sometimes I dip in midrange for a higher jump shot.

[@Bezmenov93]

@@graffix21 u mean for a higher arc?

[@henrixuboyz]

you will need to "deep" everywhere IF your height less than 5 feet 😁

[@graffix21]

GutharNBA i guess both, since I’m a shorter player I have to get more lift to shoot over taller players in the mid-range.

[@lethalfang]

Speaking for myself, I don't dip the ball when shooting free throws, but almost always dip the ball when I shoot 3's. Before watching this video, I've always thought that's something wrong with my 3-point shooting motion.

[@yulinhuang570]

I like you videos explaining the shooting techniques. Regarding the dipping, I think coach rock from Ilikebasketballtv has a point. He mentioned that think of it as a shooting path instead of shooting form. From 7:18 in your video, klay did not dip the ball, that's because all his shots start from the same position. All his shots follow the same path. If he catches the ball high, he will dip the ball. Otherwise, he will not need to dip it.

[@stefangrigorov6034]

Great piece of content. It was pleasure watching it and it was very helpful. I skip the promo ad but I think its good that is there.

[@Brandon-gz5en]

Can you show how step backs affect jump shots.

[@SouperLynx]

Markelle Fultz that'd be nice

[@kingbucketz182]

It's effects shot power, but that can be corrected if you have good lift and sway on your jumper

[@k_kman321]

@Chengyan Ji thats not the real fultz😂😂😂

[@youngobama8125]

Markelle Fultz it’s literally just the offset of the momentum that throws the step-back user off.

[@k_kman321]

@@youngobama8125 after the season don't switch up when my boy is an all star

[@burger1113]

Yeah it is pretty ridiculous to ask a player to do that... Monster athletes might have less negative effects from it i suppose. An excessive dip either with upper or lower body wouldn't be ideal, but no dip at all is simply not natural for human bodies. Makes things too jerky.

[@loverofhumanity]

exactly if you look at all his examples, there's a dip but the dip is so inexcessive that you wouldn't even tell its there at game speed. I think that's what players are talking about. I think you naturally have a dip when you shoot no matter what but its almost as if in your mind you should be thinking to get into shooter C position as fast as possible from that small dip and knee bend position. Alot of times people misinterprate the dip and begin to overemphasis or exaggerate it which slows it down significantly. The reality is in game speed unless your good at dribbling off screens or move around enough, its impossible to get your shot off over defenders if you have an excessive dip.

[@kaospat4173]

great Video...it confirmed what I already thought on the court

[@langstongalloway8966]

Your jump shot is so smooth

[@ermocrate]

I don't know who says you don't have to dip, it's absurd, when I was a kid I was told to write a 6 when shooting, by getting stronger and growing up the movement gets quicked and more "sincopated" but the principle is the same, dip the bal to gain momentum so you don't rely too much on your shoulder and your arm strenght. Also FT is the most misundertood shot ever, it a simple game of levers, has nothing to do with a jumpshot altough the look similar at first glance.

[@yoitsSmitty2004]

The coach's

[@Factor2121]

Scot can you do a video showing the 2 ways to elevate the ball in your shot? Raising it in straight line and the other is raising it in a semi circular way up to your shot pocket. I don't know too much english but i think you can understand what i'm trying to tell you.

[@jayg.4816]

Derick Gonzalez great english

[@Factor2121]

Jaydon Gordon, thank you :D

[@eladevron24]

I have a very small dip in my shot, because any more of a dip mess up my timing because I'm kinda athletic and I barely dip my legs so only 1-2 inch dip at most, but it really helps me shot

[@itz_akuma]

A dip helps you get rhythm and makes sure your shot comes for your legs. Everyone does that just like everyone holds their follow thru.

[@madzilla14]

"Knees bend to load power..." Arms go down and UP thru the "set point".

[@cantbeatthebay4765]

Thank you -- I'm glad someone finally explained this to the public. Great detail.

[@Tiger24kicks]

I started to dip a few years ago and didn't know I was doing it and because a almost perfect shooter. It made me a better shooter

[@robertblount1377]

If your legs are bent/loaded prior to receiving the pass, then the dip after catching the ball is not nearly as lengthy/time consuming. A less lengthy dip should speed your shot up.

[@srpedrogoizu]

I love your content. Keep it up!!!

[@ab-15188]

Im one of your 500 subs. Never ever have I been disappointed with your contents since the beginning

[@PhiDuyanh]

Shooting effectively is all about practice, everyone has different techniques and forms, the important thing is you need to master yours, thats the key to being great at shooting

[@damem9715]

Head to Toe: Kyle Kuzma or Devin Booker

[@sabahbubbler]

I knew this from Shotmechanics. In Steph defense, he said a little of of dip is ok. I am 100% for dip There's no need for long explanation, the dip works because it's a natural rhythm. We bend our hips and legs, the hands naturally follow. If we bend and the hands stay there, it's going against our natural flow so it goes against our natural human rhythm. Try bending bend and see if you can keep your hands the same place. Its unnatural

[@theartofcompetition5965]

I thought most good spot up shooters wait for a pass with their legs bent already in a loaded position.

[@QuervoJones]

Its super common. But not necessary. I think the point is to do whatever you gotta do in order to your activate leg load BEFORE bringing your arms up. Transfering energy kineticly from bottom of feet to finger tip. Eliminating energy leaks along the way.

[@kaospat4173]

since I dip the ball I hit a lot more 3s...it gives me a rhythm and I think it helps the loading phase...like a spring recoil ... I also have a lot less short shot's since I dip

[@crimewavbeats5532]

That rhythm...EXACTLY, same for me.

[@greigns7781]

Scott.... you gotta break down Kembas form

[@auds9738]

This is great content. I always thought there was something wrong when I was taught to not dip the ball. It's like, if you're trying to throw a baseball, you need to cock back your arm so you have more space to swing through, giving yourself more power and control over the ball's flight path. So it should be the same for basketball shots, right? It's like not pressing a spring down and expecting it to jump off the ground on its own.

[@GreenFuryGaming]

when training a basketball players, to shoot, there is 2 methods, one is called "form shooting" and other is called "game shooting" , form shooting is nothing like game shooting, it helps with mechanics and rhythm. game shooting is...game shooting xD. i think this will help you to dive deeper into shooting.

[@classyassmothafucka8890]

Whatever happened to the concept of "Triple Threat"? If your shot starts above your shoulders, you can't dribble and you limit your passing possibilities... BUT... if your shot starts at hip level and you start your shot, if the defender rushes you, it's easy to just fake and dribble around them. Even if you don't have your dribble, you can do a give and go. The main advantage to shooting from the hip isn't even the advantages of the shot itself (Though such advantages are many). The REAL main advantage is that you can keep your defender honest. If the defender manages to read your shot and get under the ball, you're screwed. You have to pivot away from the hoop to protect the ball and just pray you find an available passing option. If your defender reads your shot when the ball is still low, you can burn them if they get too close... or draw a shooting foul.

[@theartofcompetition5965]

what your saying is totally true. but in terms of quick release catching it right at your forehead with legs loaded would be the fastest release and you wouldnt want to get into triple threat assuming your in range for that kind of shot

[@classyassmothafucka8890]

@@theartofcompetition5965 That is true of shots in the paint, but not of 3point shooting. Several reasons- 1. Reduces your range. Even if you're an NBA player who can physically do a set shot from 3, it gets harder and harder just a few feet out from the 3. The range of motion is about half that of a regular shot so you ARE giving up range by doing this 2. Fastest shot within reason. If you are already locked and loaded before the shot, the pass going into the shot is going to alter your shot. Unless you've only got .3 to shoot, this is a terrible tradeoff. 3. Shooting is about HABIT... and if you get in the habit of going straight into your shot, your man is simply going to NOT respect your drive (as he shouldn't). If you TRY to go from a set shot to a drive, you're just gonna get stripped anyway. 4. If you think about putting up a shot and decide you're off-balance, you now have the ball above your shoulders... and this is exactly where a guard does NOT want the ball. This makes it very difficult to dribble or pass out of the little corner you just locked yourself in... not to mention, you're on your heels now from the near shot attempt.

[@theartofcompetition5965]

@@classyassmothafucka8890 yah i did say assuming your in range for that kinda shot.

[@Brandon-gz5en]

Can you breakdown Bradley Beal.

[@Gmaa-bf3xg]

Klay Thompson has taken shots where he catches ball above head and sends 3 straight up. Definitely avoids the Dip if needed

[@justinebautista1383]

Grant Anderson sometimes he does that but most of the time he dips

[@tiismuna]

A Dip.. Stabilize the body after catching the ball to add balance Centers the ball into your shooting pocket and relaxes the upper body from awkward tension Lastly it adds power

[@theartofcompetition5965]

I hope you can make a video about how you should shoot the basketball from different ranges . there is no video about that on the internet.

[@mrslick58]

He has actually.

[@club6525]

Technically the dip slows your shot. However, when you are normally going to shoot, you either take a 1-2 step, hop, or are dribbling which results the dip being covered up by other movements such as the 1-2 step, the hop, or a dribble. This is an example of having time but not wanting to use it. For instance, assume you were going to work. Then you wanted to stop at an ice cream parlor but you would be late. Then, your boss extends the time just long enough for you to get ice cream but not be late. Not a good analogy but you understand the point: Yes, the dip slows your shot but you have time to do it. The no-dippers are like the guys who don't get ice cream. The dippers are better because they get the ice cream and aren't late.

[@sharrrodreeed3182]

I think “loading your helps” is the same as dipping but that’s what I was taught

[@sebastiansonmark5611]

Just a personal thing i notice, when i "dip" the ball it kind of gives me a little bit more stability when i shoot. If i would just catch and shoot from were i cought the ball without slowing down my arms enuff b4 i took the shoot it could possibly effekt the movement of the ball after it was thrown bc i would probobly move my arms both upwards to shoot but also sidways to position the ball in front off me. if i dip i would have the time anyways to position the ball in front off me and also get more time to think b4 i take the shoot...

[@1974wanderlust]

Dip when your wide open or need to reset your body. Never dip when defender is in you face. There is NO one way. It depends on the defense.

[@Sk8Fam]

great vid!

[@crimewavbeats5532]

I have to bring the ball down really low because I have a unorthodox caterpult style shot lol it changes everything for me with it I went 80% in a pickup game, vs no dip I went literally 10%

[@boozbottle]

Not dipping makes zero sense at all, especially when ppl say its slower because you're bringing the ball down. Literally everybody's body goes down first, then up when you jump for a shot so why would bringing the ball down along with your body slow it down. Just like when people jump up, they bend DOWN first then exlplode up.

[@inakaboyz]

i don't really see people not doing lower body dip even on mid range jumper and free throw

[@boozbottle]

@@inakaboyz ppl that dont dip on free throws tend to just a have upward motion with their bodys anyways so they are going with the momentum of their bodys anyways, where as for midrange it tends to be pull up jumpers and not catch and shoot so i dip isnt required off the dribble

[@inakaboyz]

yea anyway i haven't seen (or at least remember seeing) people that don't dip when shooting, even off the dribble they jump stop into the dip then shoot the ball. it's actually my first hearing coaches teach their players not to dip

[@theartofcompetition5965]

but good shooters should catch the ball ready to shoot with their legs loaded already right? so in that instance it would slow you down right?

[@tingispingis]

@@theartofcompetition5965 But if you try to shoot without even slightly dipping, it feels really awkward and out of rhythm

[@jamismirs8353]

This video has no add, because the add is INCLUDED in this video. No debate!

[@Philoreason]

fix a spring to your palm, which completely eliminates any dip/jump :) just catch and launch, vola... OF COURSE you need to dip when you shoot, it's a natural part of your body movement, those are idiots who say no dip

[@wat5709]

Yeah I started dipping the ball a while back and it improved my shot a LOT

[@wat5709]

Szilard Molnar naw dumbass why do you think dipping is said to damage your shot, not everyone does it. Yeah maybe a tiny little dip comes naturally but actually dipping the ball is way different. “😂😂😂😂😂” what are you fucking 5, get out of my face

[@nickvogt3198]

It gives them more power

[@nickvogt3198]

And rhythm

[@scionkai]

Lethalshooter just released this argument on insta

[@kyledelgado2356]

Loading up and dipping are two different things

[@sahibmann8300]

Dip if you have enough space or you are opean if you catch the ball and have to get the ball up faster then not dipping can make ur shot faster

[@kamrinmurphy6052]

Hey man, could you make a video about Russell Westbrook's free throws? He shot a career low this past season, 73%, when the season before he shot almost 85%

[@AnlamK]

ShotMechanics and this dude agree, probably because they latch onto the right technique.

[@MarviRafaelMontecillo]

Love your work. Im 37 and fixing my long range shot. I am a 2 motion shooter, so developing 1 motion shot for 3 pointers. Whats up?

[@bigredboy9572]

I have read an article written by a Chinese guy who also expertise in shooting (channel on youtube: Basketball Tips Shotur) saying that there are 2 different rhythm about dipping the ball: dipping and bending ur knee at the same whil (like most players) and dipping first and then bend the knee while lifting the ball (7:40 in this video, Ray Allen) and he said Ray Allen changed from the former one to the later one after his technique became mature. Can you explain how these are different? Any influence on the timing of releasign the ball?

[@paulgeorge9228]

he probs not gonna reply but the difference is the dip before bending ur knees is powered by momentum by ur legs, but the dip as u bend ur knees doesnt work with the momentum aka u r using/exerting energy to dip instead of working with ur legs momentum

[@Jaffytv]

also the sweep and sway is something alot of good shooters do that ppl say not to do

[@eladevron24]

Can you do a vid about free throws, I have a very different shot while shooting FT (92% on 3 a game) is that normal. Even if it's not I'm not going to change it because it works but I think it can really help people

[@adrianjamesordonio9236]

watch kobe while shooting threes and jump shots

[@joshuahebert9949]

Keeping the ball high really is mostly for rebound put backs. So the defenders don't have time to gather for a steal or block.

[@sivitri1]

Great video! Could you make a video about which fingers to use when shooting? For me, i use my pointing and middle finger. For others, they use the middle and ring. Does it matter?

[@ayazm1110]

I was taught no dip, because if you’re up against a defender with fast hands, off the catch they can smack if while you dip. Actually happened to me before I changed it up

[@joshuahebert9949]

Ayaz Mehmood all that means is your spacing was to tight with the defender to close. Sounds like you shouldn't have forced the shot.

[@ayazm1110]

Joshua Hebert i play a lot of streetball which is probably why no dip makes more sense because of tight defense and it being more physical. But I mean for a logic standpoint no dipping makes sense if you are indeed able to make the shot without dipping. That way you cut out an extra movement and therefore less chances for the defense to steal the ball. I appreciate the reply.

[@Jeromeisantos]

and you are playing professional ball?

[@bjsw534]

js59695 Curry also has probably the quickest release in the world

[@mchaelc9794]

Dip can lose control of the ball wen u get to your final release coz amount of force going up to your set point will slide the ball into your hands.

[@theartofcompetition5965]

if your a one motion shooter your shot starts from your shot pocket not your set point so you should dip down to your shot pocket.

[@DS-bj9bb]

Do you know how much you help me whit my shooting? Keep going man love your channel

[@allemoney]

Same. That thumb flick joint got my shot on 🔥.

[@theartofcompetition5965]

simply put is like a backswing in golf. or in darts. simply put.

[@Fingolfin30]

I need some help... On my follow through my hand/wrist is pointed way right of the hoop, instead of straight. Any one know why my hand would do this? & how do I fix this? People say it’s just a bad habit from shooting it incorrectly, but I think it’s something more mechanical

[@lefteriskatsimanis109]

good you analyze the shooting form of drazen petrovic?

[@azraelhazee]

But whenever I try to dip I usually airball or my power is good but my aim is ass

[@damem9715]

First like

[@kevinsmiley7069]

All the dislikes are from coaches that teach not to dip

[@wesbo4]

the technique of no dip means you dip in your lower body BEFORE you catch it so that after that catch you're going from dipped to up. It doesnt mean you dont dip at all

[@ayoonine]

Klay thompson need to create the Shooter's almanac

[@yunghonzex]

I think you dont need to dip when your shootin at some mid range shots but atd 3point line and somewhere like that far you need to

[@burger1113]

Suggestion : what if your patreons got a discount or a "first one free" type of deal on the shot coaching? Best wishes man

[@ScotShotBasketball]

I like that. Added it to the Patreon page!

[@sammydeol4459]

I don't understand the people who say that you can't dip. Like what, am I supposed to catch the ball at neck level and shoot it from that point.

[@lethalfang]

Dipping the ball gives the defender an easier opportunity to strip the ball. Still, for me the upside outweighs the downside.

[@adoctor75]

I dip, you dip, we dip

[@justinwright3977]

Do a video to why jaden leque Westbrook of high school basketball can’t shoot and explain why

[@klamonite]

When i play my coach will always scream at me for dipping the ball when i catch it, but hey thats how i play i usually dip the ball, pump fake, and jab step then i dip it again then i got my shot i dont know why but thats an effective move for me

[@theartofcompetition5965]

im pretty sure its bad to dip the ball when your at close range. perhaps less distance less backswing so to speak. you should specify that you should dip when your shooting from long range.

[@_Maxten]

i need advice. they say dont think too much when you shoot the ball and just do it but when I do that, I have a tendency of reverting back to my old shooting form (which had a low arc). how do I break muscle memory that I've had for years so I don't run into this problem?

[@JaviHuertasBball]

hi! you probably need more time to your new memory muscle. When you practice your new good shot with good arc you should focus on your legs because a very big % of memory muscle is in your legs an that afect to your entire shot. i learnt this from a neuroscientific teacher. it is realy important dont think when you realese the ball but you can adjust after and before and think what you need in your mechanics. when you really practice a lot gradually you shoud forget the bad habits in your shots.

[@_Maxten]

+Javi.Huertas.Bball No its not my legs, my main problem is my off hand placement. a very tough habit to break, especially when dipping the ball.

[@itz_akuma]

You can only correct muscle memory with practicing your correct form more. You go back to your old form when your tired because that's still what's natural for you. Shoot more until your new shot feels natural in game.

[@itz_akuma]

Theres nothing wrong with having a low arc btw. As long as you can get the shot off over your defender and it goes in. Ray Allen had a very flat yet effective jump shot.

[@_Maxten]

+hayabusa qq i've tried the 1st option you mentioned before and it works but it also almost feels one handed and awkward when going off the dribble. and for the 2nd one, i can't shoot that way, i feel comfortable with as minimal use of the off hand as possible other than bringing it up. it looks like trae young's without thumbing or maybe matt bonner's

[@IWantMyVisionBack]

I hope y'all giving credit to Pro Shot Shooting System, because they were the pioneers of debunking basketball shooting myths here on KZbin. That is if you aren't them.. you guys have similar names LOL.

[@Fares-wp2ub]

My coach wants me not to dip cuz I'm a center but my shooting form is more a guard so I do dip but I still have a fast release

[@idchipoodle3361]

I got a question. Why do players hop forward on their jump shots sometimes? I feel like some players use it for timing but I’m not sure. If I release it at the same time I’m moving forward does it do anything?

[@NP13.7]

ur release goes higher

[@justinhowell1933]

Thank you for putting Fred van vleet in this he doesn’t really get exposure

[@ScotShotBasketball]

Love Fred. So underrated

[@JWFromDaNawf]

I hit you on Instagram becuase I needed to work on my jumpshot and you said you could help us. I have it on a video and I need your help

[@MrLoco]

Is the merch worldwide?

[@ScotShotBasketball]

It will be when it’s ready to go 👍🏼

[@MrLoco]

@@ScotShotBasketball Thank you!😀

[@jonasss.c1599]

Big Smoke got some Dip

[@theartofcompetition5965]

why is catching a pass with the legs loaded ready to shoot result in an inconsistent shot? you said just try it yourself. but you didnt explain why

[@davidblack1241]

Power is the ability to generate force quickly. Greater power equals a higher jump, a faster bat, a quicker shot. A crucial mechanism at work when generating power is the Stretch Shortening Cycle. It is also known as countermovement or pre-stretch. If a concentric contraction is started from a static position - by waiting "with the legs loaded" for example - explosiveness is lost. The result would be a slower shot, with reduced effective range. Check out this explanation/demonstration from Dr. David Brehm at the School of Human Kinetics & Recreation, Memorial University (CAN): kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWKVdJWYadGYrqM

[@theartofcompetition5965]

​@@davidblack1241 oh gotcha. so your saying like a backswing in golf. or darts.

[@LilBiggums2K]

My shot looks just like yours Scot (it just felt natural to start shooting like that from 3) and I get a lot of criticism about it--its too low, you wont be able to get it off, etc. What do you think?

[@ScotShotBasketball]

Don’t listen to them

[@choward5430]

I'm 59 years and change. I can go to Oakland tomorrow, enter into a contest with all 3, defeat them one at a time and fly home.

[@plusEV]

ok boomer

[@kingme4690]

Impossible to shoot without dipping. Next video.

[@louisevaldez3751]

Dipping is more like a power motion get an momentum of shot then release yes there's dipping but those deep is a momentum ...

[@mrzack888]

They don't push the ball to set point. They swing it up.

[@JibzCastor]

What does dip the ball means?

[@420protoman]

just use whatever form works for you, my dad's a coach i mean good fundamentals at first , help you know what to do , but if you find something works better, try it for a while... i used to never miss shots. got MVP of a few camps when i was a kid. i wish i could have done something with bball for a living but only a 5foot8 white nigga lol.

[@dawei9443]

youre white and you say youre a black person?

[@kingjackrey]

video starts at 3:05

[@방울토마토-l7b]

How about KP sometimes not dipping the ball?? Just because he's strong?💪

[@ScotShotBasketball]

Not everybody is 7ft 3

[@justinebautista1383]

pretty sure kp always dips the ball

[@CrushingBliss]

Dip is just a way for the player to get their hand placement on the ball correctly

[@CyCurry33]

What about off the dribble

[@holkn]

Those who can’t do, teach.