Why Formula 1 Cars are IMPOSSIBLE to Drive in the COLD

Every now and then the F1 organisers throw a spanner in the works - and we typically get a very unusual Grand Prix. And that’s likely to be true for the first race on the new circuit in Las Vegas.
It’s fast, it’s a street track and the race starts at 10pm local time. But the biggest challenge for the teams is that at that time, it’s going to be cold… really cold.
So, why is the drastically colder than usual temperature such an issue? What are the teams and drivers going to do about it? And are we going to see an incredibly chaotic race?
Formula One cars really don’t work well at cold temperatures. Now, this is counterintuitive. You might notice that all of the fastest laps at your local kart track were set in the evening or at night. But in F1, the power units and in particular, the tyres just aren’t made to work when temperatures are below about 15 degrees celsius.
And you might ask, why? Well, the vast majority of the season is within a fairly tight temperature band, within the mid to high 20 degrees C range - and it has been for a while.
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[@guitarsimon1]

Can't wait for Hulk to get his first podium with a Haas 1-2 when it turns out they designed their mobile tyre cooker as a Las Vegas circuit special.

[@gary2kr1]

😂

[@varadvagal4538]

Some might say, it's for home race advantage

[@o77vh87]

Ferrari will also be gud here with the fact that they have one of the highest top speeds, and they also kill the tires too.

[@kyletodd8457]

Using Mazepin's car to demonstrate an unpredictable spin is equal parts savage and hilarious 😂😂

[@nickbee5508]

Also, 'the difference between a good driver and a great driver' with pictures of Stroll & Alonso 😂😂

[@exp2745]

How it really happened: FIA: So the temperature is going to be around 50°, which is significantly hotter than Bahrain in 2005, but teams have gotten better at thermal management since then, so we believe... Logan Sargeant: 50° Fahrenheit, not Centigrade, you know that right? FIA: What the fuck is a Fahrenheit?!

[@MHWGamer]

at point they drive on the backside of the moon and the scala is Kelvin 😮

[@into_the_void]

The track length is equal to 67.8 footbal fields 🙃

[@pianissimo7121]

That sounds about right haha.

[@mavadelo]

Comment of the day 👍

[@MuppetsSh0w]

@@into_the_void How dare you use the decimal point?! It's 67 football fields and 56 hotdogs!

[@tomnorris1734]

Imagine if it just resulted in a race where the drivers could push flat out for the whole race rather than just managing their tyres.

[@The_ZeroLine]

We saw that in Qatar due to the stupid lap limit.

[@Driver61]

🙌🙌🙌

[@sierd150120]

you mean max will lead by 2minutes in stead of 20 seconds?😅

[@sadeksama5057]

​@@sierd150120 That'll hurt max actually because red bull advantage is that it manages its tires better

[@armanromana1580]

@@sadeksama5057it only hurts red bull if theres a lap limit on a stint. use your brain, no limit means that red bull will go faster for longer rather than being gimped by the limit.

[@VascoBreitenfeld]

Not gonna lie, an F1 race with only Richard Hammond's would be a sight to behold

[@OnionChoppingNinja]

I can already hear the insurance companies cry out in horror at the prospect

[@blackjacktrial]

HAMMOND!!!!

[@roneified4405]

They'd all crash out and no one would finish

[@mikemiller7946]

@@roneified4405 Race over in t1 lap 1.

[@ChrisMisMYhandle]

Go watch a rental kart race. Same thing. Not what I want in elite motorsport.

[@MadIIMike]

I wonder what Haas can do in order to mess up the one race where their ability to scorch their tyres would be a benefit.

[@Scottie_S]

You read my mind! 😆

[@dylanburston7453]

Taking the upgrades off of their faster drivers car for one

[@HeadhunterKev96]

A chance for Hulkenberg, driver of Haas, to show his quality.

[@nicholasmarshall3191]

I would like to see Haas withdraw from F1, and have Andretti take their place.

[@pacerl9941]

who asked@@nicholasmarshall3191

[@RonaiHenrik]

3:50 Putting Lance when you said "good driver" and Alonso when saying "great driver" is a different sort of savage :D

[@leef9834]

Haas' weakness of cooking it's tires, might actually be it's strength this weekend 😂😂

[@user-kf5mg1xl9w]

imagine the hulk getting a podium

[@FILMCREWProductions1]

I’m out there working. It’s not as catastrophic to be honest. Even at 4am. 10-12C. What I’m more worried about is that pit exit. It’s completely blind if your exiting the pits and the corner apex is literally the pit exit!

[@Redlingstein]

10degrees is COLD especially cos THERE ARE NO HIGH SPEED CORNERS TO GET TEMP IN THE TYRES……. Any restart or braking in turn 1 will be a massamarkt…. And completely ludicrous in these budget cap times as well. F1 truly FAILED with signing Vegas in Nevada at End of November….

[@Redlingstein]

And pit exit is another insanely stupid design by F1…… imagine cold tyres…Quali flying lap car and car from pitlane. Vegas is seriously such a show of incompetence!!

[@fredherfst8148]

Assuming no cloud or rain, Track temperature will be much colder than air temperature…radiative cooling is strong in a dry atmosphere

[@maxster10]

Why the start is at 10PM? Why so late? If they start at 6 or 7 PM the temp could be higher and there would be no stupid talk about low tyre temp. 😮

[@MikeGentry]

@@maxster10 F1 is attempting to build a market here in the US so, waiting until the majority of the country is asleep to run the race makes perfect sense.... 😕

[@SilentGunner13]

it's almost as if they went for a shiny and glitzy race and didn't really think of the practicalities beyond that..

[@hankrearden5460]

They just need to push this up in the calendar. It shouldn't be in November. It should be months earlier and you don't need to worry about the temperature.

[@KarvidSR]

Meh, the best drivers in the world and the best organizing teams will cope. It's fun to see variation and skill tbh.

[@hankrearden5460]

@@KarvidSR I'm fine with them racing in November. I just pointing out how they could solve it. wished they raced an earlier time. They're cutting off a huge chunk of their audience in the eastern time zones because of these insanely late starts

[@SupraDebt]

@@hankrearden5460 Yeah it sucks starting at 1am est but they could've started the race 6pm PST and it would be 2am in Europe, where most of their audience is.

[@KarvidSR]

Yeah it sucks and I do get it. But most audience is EU and now they get a morning race. Add the fact that they most definetly want a night race in vegas, with the lights and all.@@hankrearden5460

[@erikr968]

Most people seem to expect that the low temps will result in a lot of action. However, difficult tire conditions usually results in a boring race, where drivers are afraid to push, and just take it very easy and stay single file. Qualifying could get more interesting though.

[@koutroubasathanasios7322]

Most people also talk about the tyres contributing to stiring things up (either way, i agree it will likely result into drivers being overly cautious), but i cant, for the life of me, imagine the drivers not having problems with the brake temps too, which seems much more of an issue to me.

[@squeakybunny2776]

​@@koutroubasathanasios7322but at least braking cooling can be reduced.

[@AKHKCZplus]

Every F1 race is boring. At least Vegas offers the best opportunity for minor excitement.

[@koutroubasathanasios7322]

@@squeakybunny2776 Would that ever be an issue in this track ? I think that layout wise it would be tricky with brake temps regardless of the temperature, but add that to the mix and its on a whole other level i imagine. Maybe its just me being ignorant though. I bet they have gone through everything months in advance.

[@TheLibermania]

You mean like Turkey 2020, where no one dared to push? Oh, wait.

[@CCGeogaddi]

Not just the tyres that will be negatively affected, but the driver too! I recall a race at Mt Fuji decades ago where the drivers hands would go numb and the visors would fog up.

[@mtnmoo]

It definitely won’t be THAT cold. People forget Nevada is a desert. It’s hot. It’ll probably be 60° Fahrenheit, as opposed to the 40° they often fight against in winter testing at Barcelona, im sure it’ll be okay and people keep talking about the temperature and I keep thinking it’s an overreaction

[@CCGeogaddi]

True, but blasting around at 200mph certainly magnifies things. It’s like a mild day in autumn can become icy when it gets windy.

[@dubhorizon]

We will be lucky to see more than 15 cars finish the race :)

[@andrewburgin-wild7052]

The best F1 non highlight content

[@500bht]

Maybe the cold air will give the engine a bit more horsepower seeing as they are forced induction lower inlet temp is always helpful. Or run with smaller brake ducts to generate heat through the wheels to help tyres warm up. Just a thought 😮

[@WigSplitters]

ofc colder temps mean more power, if the temp is colder there is pretty much always an increase on power. denser air=greater air flow=more power

[@PotatoeJoe69]

Absolutely, especially for forced induction engines -- cold air is a Godsend. They'll make more power in Vegas than at any other track, and also (potentially) make the most downforce as cold air is more dense air (but that's up to the teams adjustments, of course). Vegas is going too be a very fast track, one of the fastest overall if not blatantly THE fastest.

[@fatbikemontage2931]

Definitely cold air is denser and if air is damp this also aids power. But it comes at the expense of more fuel, which means the cars would start heavier. The bigger factor though is Las Vagas is at 600m altitude. Not quite the effect of Mexico City but certainly less downforce and less oxygen for combustion. Of course more power, less downforce and cold track temperature means less grip. The setup of the cars will be interesting, as I reckon less downforce will aid the tyres warming up, cause they squirm around more.

[@phitsf5475]

​@@fatbikemontage2931Cold air will hold onto less water and vegas is a pretty dry place in the world

[@fatbikemontage2931]

@@phitsf5475 I defer to others on the weather effects in Vagas as I’ve never been there. But I believe it is common where night temperatures are significantly lower than daytime temperature for any moisture in the air to start to condense, its not water vapour (humidity) that improves engine performance, but droplets of water. Hence why I think Subaru used to have a water injection system on some of the WRX cars, trying to replicate the effect.

[@ClayCaviness]

Racetime forcecast right now is about 14C, so I think Pirelli can put away the snow tires.

[@Redlingstein]

Its abt the TRACK TEMP! Not air temp!!!!! The track temp will be too low for a track WITH NO HIGH SPEED CORNERS TO HEAT THE TYRES….and a 2KM LONG STRAIGHT where TYRES LOSE EVEN MORE HEAT. ….. It will be crash fest, driving on ice all weekend 👎🏻 F1 and Vegas FAIL BIG TIME

[@SupraDebt]

@@Redlingstein we get it man, you're a hater of this race. Why don't you come back in 4 days and let us know then if you are right or if the race is any good. No way it can be worse then Monaco though.

[@Morkins324]

​​​@@Redlingsteintrack temp is going to be higher than 15C because Vegas is sunny as hell and the track will spend ALL DAY in direct sunlight. Honestly, track temp might be higher than some of the rain/overcast weekend races we've had in the past.

[@jonepomuk]

Why does higher tire pressure make the tire heat up quicker? Usually the opposite is true as lower pressure means more tire deformation and therefore more resistance and thus temperature.

[@NexuJin]

My understanding is that with higher pressure, the kinetic energy from the gas molecules moving around transform into thermal energy. Correct me if i'm wrong. What you are referring to is the surface area of a tire in relation to tire pressure.

[@Jimmy2971991]

Very good questions. I thougt so as well.

[@Kalimerakis]

Came here looking for this. Could be a mistake...

[@jonepomuk]

@@NexuJin I've heard this argument before, but I don't think thats correct physics. If it were true, any pressurized container would constantly emit heat. During pressurization heat could be generated, but after the pressure has been reached, i highly doubt it because otherwise we would have a perpetuum mobile.

[@Kj_Gamer2614]

the weather shows it to be 10c, which really isn't that unheard of. people where thinking sub 5c temperatures but now they're temperatures similar to a just dried up and cloudy spa day

[@NexuJin]

The explanation of how toe in or out can help warming up the tires is very insightful. Can you also do a video explaining the ins and outs of brake bias? We often see F1 drivers adjust them during a race or lap.

[@satyasrikar4677]

GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks for the explainer

[@channel4ferrets]

Stroll will do well this weekend. When tracks are slippery and cars lack grip, he seems to thrive.

[@Wizzkidwas]

Yes! I'm setting myself up for severe disappointment but I really think Stroll could finally get a podium this race

[@PixelCortex]

Uhm... Need I remind you of Monaco? 😂

[@Redlingstein]

No he is good on WET TRACKS

[@MattyT_86]

I suppose, with all the potential difficulties, this particular event will show who excells at optimising a car and who doesnt, and which driver is skillful and has a high understanding of his cars dynamics. Everyone will have the same problem, and everyone will have to drive accordingly.

[@pear4576]

Yup, I was gonna comment, this race we'll see how skilled Max is. If he does well and wins again, he really shows how skilled and consistent he is.

[@Redlingstein]

Wrong. It will be luck of not getting crashed out on restarts, like in Melbourne. It will be a lottery……

[@Redlingstein]

@@pear4576Max has shown all season in rain, drying track, on and off raining, restarts, hot track, day race, night race, Sprint weekend, normal weekend…that he is skilled in all situations. And you say Max needs to proof that he has skills to you ……..😂😂😂😂 …..

[@Redlingstein]

All cars are different, none of the cars will handle the same on the cold track….. it has nothing to do with skill here

[@antonygibson_]

@@Redlingstein its still to do with skill, you just have to compare relative to their teammate rather than the rest of the grid as a whole

[@6038am]

This race is the one where Haas has normal tire deg.

[@seanfinlay7393]

Terrific explanation, thank you so much,

[@South4153]

they‘ve really thought this event through haven‘t they…😂

[@ivanildo9579]

Is it possible that the wet can be actually faster than the slick because it performs better at lower temp?

[@marcelopcamargo]

Hey man I would like to let you know that I always had this curiosity about tyre temps and you nailed it. You spread a seed of knowledge today, sir, and I will bear your seed until the day I die

[@juzoli]

That’s what I was thinking about. It is one thing to drive on slippery tires. But another is when it is continuously changing. Cools down in straight for the breaking zone, but warms up and gets sticky again mid corner. And the extent of this change is different in each corner.

[@4whomittolz846]

the cold will be awesome. they have to accommodate heat, altitude, etc at different tracks, this will be cool.

[@namename3130]

Too cool? ❄️

[@federicomasetti8809]

Literally COOL

[@Redlingstein]

DTS viewer found 🙄 My gosh… learn abt F1…..

[@pepperonish]

Honestly it could be much colder too... i had a layover in vegas once and it god down to -1C overnight

[@benzina5917]

Excellent video and insight. Another option for increased tire temperature would be to increase the compression stiffness of the dampers. This forces more energy through the tire carcass generating internal heat in the tire.

[@davestagner]

Kind of amazed FIA didn’t decide it should be a sprint race weekend too.

[@unthenner5519]

Right! More chaos and danger

[@mtnman1984]

It's wild that I have watched nearly every race this year, but know I will be sleeping when the lights drop on a race in my own country. Even for Vegas, 10 PM is pushing it. Midnight quals is plain stupid.

[@davestagner]

Yeah. I told my spouse when the race would be, and she was like “You’re going to stay up to watch that?” Nope. I usually go to bed by 11pm central, no way I can stay up for a race at midnight local time!

[@gigacream5830]

To be fair, majority of F1s entire fan base is outside of America. So they did the race times around letting them watch. As an American, it frickin sucks, but there’s nothing we can do about it.

[@mtnman1984]

@@gigacream5830 oh, I get it. I just never thought quals at midnight would ever be a solution to that problem. This time of the year, nobody really is outside on The Strip past 10 PM because of the cold. So they want to create another Monaco out of thin air, but schedule anyone local out of the deal, lol.

[@gigacream5830]

@@mtnman1984 very true. I’ve never been to Vegas so I wouldn’t know. I’m an insomniac so I’ll be up to watch anyways🙃

[@mtnman1984]

@@gigacream5830 man, I've thought of doing it because I know I could, but (unintended pun) the stakes aren't very high. 😆

[@Mtlmshr]

You aLways give a great explanation with simple facts on what drivers can expect thanks

[@YongJoonPaek]

cutting to stroll when saying "the merely good drivers..." 😂😂

[@lmr4403]

This race shows that Fahrenheit is an awful measurement for temperature related to weather: Celsius is easy, 0 degrees=freezing. 32 degrees Fahrenheit=freezing is so awkward.

[@dustykh]

Fahrenheit is a scale of cold to hot, where everything below 0 is too damn cold and everything above 100 is too damn hot. By the time water boils a person is already dead, and remembering a 2 digit number is about the easiest thing possible. If you struggle to remember that then you must have a really difficult time with remembering what your body temperature is.

[@lmr4403]

@@dustykh sounds very useful to know -17 7/9 below freezing. Or the awkward 98.6 degrees fahrenheit for body temp. In Celsius every relevant temperature is also 2 digits.

[@johnyossarian1135]

Lewis might be able to run faster than less confident drivers but the mercs are going to struggle in a straight line. Sergeant could be interesting if the home race advantage and the straight line speed of the Williams come into play

[@lauri671]

great video, made my day

[@deangrande7002]

this has me very excited to watch the race!

[@OCRay1]

Pretty sure it’s going to be about 51-52 degrees, which is about 10 c I believe. From your F1 data that’s pretty cool but shouldn’t get too much colder.

[@oldfrend]

they really lucked out then. just a week earlier and a week later it's in the low 40s. honestly unbelievable how they scheduled this without checking the goddamn weather.

[@yellybeam2869]

@@oldfrend kinda hard to predict weather for the next year.

[@Appletank8]

​@@yellybeam2869 I think the idea is to check average weather for the area and time, because it's going to keep happening for the next 10 years.

[@Redlingstein]

@@yellybeam2869END OF NOVEMBER IN NEVADA…… need I say more….. how could they not know!

[@meganizonda]

@@yellybeam2869 Perhaps true in detail, but it's not hard to see temperature trends for the area in a given time frame. As a Mojave Desert resident myself (that is where Las Vegas is among other largely populated areas), it does get cold in November nights... very cold, very consistently. The race organisers and other concerned parties should have looked at and researched this sort of information rather than playing the card of stupidity.

[@1s.e.c.racing304]

I got money on Williams to win. They usually over heat tire and why their pace falls. In these temps they should be super fast all race.

[@ergoproxy-gx2cq]

And their car has the fastest top speed. Low drag. Alex podium? Sargent points? God i wish

[@bbbenj]

Very interesting, thanks 👍

[@RRaquello]

The coldest Indy 500 was 1992 which turned out to be a bloodbath, largely because of cold tires. Shouldn't be as much of a problem for F1 because 30 years later tire technology is presumably advanced and F1 uses tire warmers and IndyCar doesn't.

[@bmstylee]

It could be worse. It could snow like it did at Spa a few years ago.

[@andrewsolesbury115]

This just all sounds like an entertaining race to me as there is a high chance of mistakes. Also, just a thought, when you run inters in the dry they suffer from overheating - maybe try inters in the cold to get temp in them

[@Redlingstein]

Please learn abt F1 cars……

[@andrewsolesbury115]

@Redlingstein I understand how they work and understand how cold tyres will cause oversteer and understeer etc. What I am saying is that if the drivers are struggling then there will be a lot of mistakes, which will make the racing interesting to watch. What about that statement is wrong?

[@kennethnielsen3864]

Thanks for sharing.

[@rickintexas1584]

That straight is huge! I’m definitely expecting a lot of things to happen at the end of the straight.

[@ktwei]

Let them use intermediate tyres at Vegas.

[@EpsilonUnitGaming]

Is there a rule that says they can’t use inters on a dry track?

[@eoincassin4265]

There is literally nothing stopping them other than the fact they will be destroyed in about 5 corners

[@thelearningmachine_]

Is not only the design, but the rubber composition is also different, made to not run in dry conditions.

[@RalstigRacing]

And less contact patch due to the treads.

[@5atoru]

I am also hoping for a spectacular race, and it will be... These conditions will just make Max look even more dominant.. dude was taught to drive slicks in rain by his dad, I'm not seeing anyone being able to challenge him.

[@Dante_8183]

This is going to be chaos on track with the tight track.

[@Draugo]

"It's going to be really cold... 5 degrees Celsius" or like we in Finland call it, beach weather.

[@dannysanchez622]

So interesting and not a boring race maybe? ...I'm for it 👍

[@Math4real.Schramm]

I wonder if they'll experience with using the intermediate tyres on the dry, it's a strategy that has been dancing in my mind every since I realized that those are the softest tyres Pirelli offers

[@Redlingstein]

…..learn abt F1 cars…. Please….

[@lawsonracing7164]

At the risk of re-opening an old wound, this tire temperature issue is one of the analysis theories for the Senna crash in 1994. Cold tires due to a slow safety car and late braking coming into the corner causing a massive lack of grip and steering resulting in the tragic straight run into the barriers. Obviously there were many other theories, but the parallels are similar enough to bring the horrible memory back. Great channel as always. Cheers back at you sir.

[@craig7232]

Look into 1977 F1 race at Watkins Glen. On Saturday there was snow in the air mid to upper 30s f. The cars were lined up on points. And they ran in the low 40s f. I hope helps and thank you for what you do on KZbin and other format's

[@JayTor2112]

Sounds like they need to schedule this race earlier in the season.

[@Redlingstein]

Exactly. The F1 and Vegas contract negotiators FAILED BIG TIME

[@aespa690]

No, they just need to not hold it at 10pm, which is dumb

[@xFurashux]

I love how you used AM drivers for good&great drivers.

[@bluegizmo1983]

How do you figure "freezing"? ... last I checked, freezing is 32 degrees fahrenheit or less, and during the entire F1 "weekend" of Thursday, Friday, and Saturday in Vegas, the coldest temperature is still above 50 degrees fahrenheit!

[@JohnSmithShields]

It is almost like this track was designed as a spectical rather than a race track.

[@daveblock4061]

One of my favorite quotes from Jim Clark when asked how he drove so fast was he could not understand why the rest drove so slowly.

[@kyleharrison713]

I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about Tyre Blankets yet. Teams couldn't stop whining about it when they started restricting them... On another note, I think the undercut is going to be substantial this weekend considering how long it will take to heat up the tires.

[@Redlingstein]

Nobody can say anything abt the tyre blankets…. There is a regulation for 2023. Period. Nothing can be changed.

[@Redlingstein]

Wrong.

[@op_jazz]

Not just cold but the weather report has a 40% rain chance today. No telling what the crazy Vegas weather is going to do this week.

[@HOHLfmly]

It's not actually the sport's first event in Las Vegas, that came back in 1981 and 1982 at the Caesars Palace Grand Prix, I went to both! As a spectator, it was great the track was short 2.3-mile circuit was completely confined to the car park of the Caesars Palace Hotel so the cars went by in less time which kept the excitement up. Good Luck to all the Drivers, who would have thought it would be cold!

[@YouTube]

love your insight 🔥 banging video

[@keatkeat802]

sup

[@ozkavoshdjalla]

Why only 8 likes for mr youtube.

[@lokibrux]

They'll do the same as always. That's to say that they'll follow each other with very little overtaking happening as 75% of the viewers fall asleep on the sofa.

[@Appletank8]

The long straights will probably make a lot of slip streaming very usable.

[@silvenshadow]

I had a minor shunt feeling out some new high performance tires in colder weather than I should have. The grip cliff when my rears spun up mid corner was incredible, and the rate of yaw breathtaking. Thankfully I was exploring in a safe place so just some bent bits. First time on cold tires and hopefully my last. Wish I would have seen this video last month. Big cheers.

[@Dispariabooks]

With the colder temps and the long straights, how are the brakes going to cope with this? I'm wondering if there will be lots of locking up/running off...

[@TechnoGuy11]

It's going to be in the 50s and most likely the mid to upper 50s they'll be fine.

[@adg98]

I predict Albon and Williams would get a podium in this race.

[@Wurbleification]

That would be awesome!

[@peterf.4268]

I wonder if teams will use more downforce (more than typical for a "high speed" track) to induce tire temp...

[@fjalkinge]

Finally a content creator that actually understands the challenges of the low temperature conditions. Rather than the talk about people freezing because it’s 10C and that you need a winter jacket to survive. I drove in ice today btw, didn’t need a heavy jacket to me outside so people need to stop being ridiculous

[@Redlingstein]

Its not abt the air temp or the drivers. Its abt track temp, no high speed corners to get heat in the tyre and a long straight on which tyres loose huge amount of heat…. On new tarmac, during day normal cars on it, no racing series laying down rubber… it will be like ice with walls way too close AND COLD BRAKES…..

[@adamshuaib27]

I'm a Vegas local, I've heard so much talk about the temperatures. The low for Saturdays race is 50 degrees F, and that won't be until about 2-3 A.M. local time. I have a hard time believing F1 hasn't raced in significantly lower temps before. I think the race should be in the September-October area for the future, but I think there is way too much talk about the "low" temperatures.

[@unthenner5519]

50f would be exceptional for f1

[@daliborzak2485]

Imagine Williams winning the race and Haas scoring a podium.

[@manuelschurig2266]

knowing hulks luck it would be kmag on the podium bc hulk got damage

[@Redlingstein]

We don’t want only 6 cars finishing the race. Vegas is a disaster

[@TotesCray]

Mazespin as the stock footage for what it looks like when the car loses grip was a choice.

[@hung8969]

NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THIS YET: Las Vegas is a odd one for temps. The air temp can be 45f and the city temp is 60-70f depends on time of day. It’s a massive concrete jungle with nearly ZERO air flow through out the city. I’ve been there during summer and it was saying 93f on the weather app. But in the city temp gauge was 108f

[@nachobroryan8824]

That sounds like every other city.

[@Rocky712_]

That's the Urban Heat Island (yes, that's the academic term) at its finest.

[@ThatkidthatpwnsXP]

Classic F1, why does it need to be at night? Well it will look cooler of course... They don't care about racing just advertising

[@MustachioFurioso9134]

Lol, the sport is 90% advertising revenue.

[@oblac]

imagine if you could check the weather forecast and see that Vegas won't be going below 10C all week/weekend 🙄

[@PixelCortex]

Track temp tho

[@Alucard-gt1zf]

The ground is colder than the air.....

[@Redlingstein]

That is way too low. Track will be even lower… it’s never abt air but abt TRACK TEMP! Imagine not knowing that…..

[@oblac]

The ground always stays hotter than the air, that's just physics. Google is your friend. I'm sure the tires are still shit in 10C anyway.

[@Shakkti14]

Imagine they used "heated roads" to keep the tyres and the track surface warm lol

[@Itsallfun3000]

The biggest challenge is integrity and stewarding!

[@thecremeegg]

Has nobody making these videos checked the forecast? It's due to be like 12 degrees, not cold at all

[@temio.463]

He said in the video that sub-15 isn’t optimal

[@barryomahony4983]

Right!? All this stuff about "single digit" temps is ridiculous. The race is only a few days out and the National Weather Service forecasts are pretty accurate that close, and the temp forecasts have been going up. 14.5 degrees at race start is not particularly cold.

[@romerjason]

Ever driven super fast on cold tires. Then shut it

[@renzo7042]

He addresses it in the video literally lol 6:04

[@bobbobert9379]

I don't think you understand how cold it can get in the desert in late fall on a clear night. Vegas is a desert.

[@markotrieste]

Can someone explain how higher tire pressure induces higher temperatures? I've always been taught that (in normal cars) the reason nr. 1 to keep tires inflated was to avoid overheating them.

[@markwallace1727]

Yeah, I'd like to hear this explanation too. I recall checking my tyres and finding one a little low on my road car. Figured it wasn't too low, so drove to the servo (petrol station) to pump it up rather than drag out the compressor. A few kms down the road and that tyre was at a higher pressure than the rest due to the extra tyre flex heating it more and increasing the pressure. Good ones barely moved. Spent a while inflating and deflating the tyre a few times (probably just killing time more than being effective changing the air) before I was happy the temps had come down enough for a fair reading. Needless to say, I always check and inflate tyres at home before any driving now. But I get that a road car/tyre is much different to a race car/tyre, so an explanation would be great.

[@ThaDutchDK1989]

It’s really difficult to explain. Cause with a very low tyre pressure the tyre moves more and so heats up the faster. Higher tyre pressure the air can’t expand that much so it’s get hot . So it’s not like low Tyre pressure won’t heat up but it’s within limits .

[@markwallace1727]

@@ThaDutchDK1989 Thanks. I had to think about that for a while and expand it in my head, but I think that makes sense to me now. Tye flex increases temps quick to start, but pressure reduces flex as it heats. So, less heating from there on. The more molecules to start with can heat more and retain more heat once the increased flex stage is passed. And have higher pressure I assume, which equals more heat if I remember my physics. Considering F1 runs a lot hotter than a road car will ever see to work, I think that's the main difference I missed. I've always wondered what pressure these tyres are at during race conditions rather than the minimum measured "cold" pressures. I hope I understood correctly. Thanks.

[@callumcurtis15]

Is there any chance that a partially worn intermediate tyre could be quicker than a medium if the temprature is low enough ?

[@Brendan-Grant]

I wonder if any teams will be doing anything tricky with the brake cooling systems to keep the brakes warmer and thus the carcass temps higher? Also, do we expect the softs to be good race tires this weekend?

[@JYD2020]

The most casual drop of "yeah I've driven a few F1 cars before". Humble brag mate

[@Ernesteins]

i love the transicion of the "the difference between the good and the great drivers" and the video changes from Stroll to Alonso

[@YouriCarma]

I calculated a total length of around 4900 meters (4.9 km/ 3.0 mile) they can go flat out. That's gonna be a problem with the new asphalt, low temperatures in las Vegas and the many straits on which the tires cool off. Joy!

[@JohnSmith-cq7lk]

Can Pirelli make a tyre specifically for this? How would inters work? they stay pretty warm lol.

[@ergoproxy-gx2cq]

Maybe some teams bring out the inters. Would be crazy to see them in dry conditions

[@paulfournier2281]

they used to race in cold weather in canada in october. it snowed a few times.

[@georgedreisch2662]

Beyond the unpredictable points of loss of grip, for the temperature, is the degree of that loss of grip, as in it’s affectively total, rather then, diminished, akin to hitting a ice patch.

[@Spike-sk7ql]

Its like the FIA had no idea that the desert can get very cold at night in the late autumn. I knew this stuff when i was 5 years old. Havent any of them watched Planet Earth? Besides all that, 50°F is NOT cold. 50°F is perfect. Jeans and a hoody if youre lucky/rich enough to be going, and youll be fine.

[@shumann1605]

It is going to be warmer than normal this weekend for the race in Vegas, so hopefully the tire issues they are predicting will not happen or not be as bad. Hopefully chaos can be avoided in that first turn at the start. Will be interesting to see how the teams adapt to this track.

[@Redlingstein]

10degrees at 10pm and Quali at 0.00 … that is cold….imagine the track temp… warmer than normal in Vegas is still too cold for that track lay out for F1 with NO HIGH SPEED CORNERS to warm the tyres and a more than 2km straight where the tyres LOSE TEMP…

[@jondoe1571]

@@Redlingsteinthe best bet is to hope the track holds on to the heat from earlier in the day

[@ShadyVectors]

How does the colder air effect the output of the power units? Are any benefits negated by the turbo?

[@DiverBob87]

Where are you getting these temps? The coldest night of the weekend forecast right now is Saturday at 10 and it wont even get down to that temp until close to 6am.

[@_Dibbler_]

Weather forecast for Las Vegas, Friday 12:00AM 12°C, Saturday 10PM: 12°C. Temperatures you can easily get on any northern European race track in summer....

[@bluelightning6167]

i am going to love this race

[@E34bmer]

I wonder if they will move the race after Austin/Mexico going forward, you may need to have warmer temps if it's too bad.

[@chrisdraves33]

How come the race is starting so late? NASCAR races in Vegas during the day and they haven't had any issues with the heat. Where I live the race is starting at 2am If it's going to be midnight in Vegas! I've only been paying attention to F1 for a couple years, so be kind in the replies if you have any explanation!

[@Alucard-gt1zf]

It's a mix of being the only free time slot in the year between other events and the ability for Europeans to actually watch the race live They've hyped this thing up so much so they really have to actually let their main target audience to be able to watch it

[@bmstylee]

NASCAR doesn't race on city streets. It's done on Las Vegas Motor Speedway so it can run later.

[@Secretlyanothername]

Because F1 literally do not care about Americans. They could hold this race at 4pm and it wouldn't be a problem.

[@dickfitzwelliner2807]

Hahahaha I caught the subtleness and timing when he said the difference between good and great drivers and the video switched from stroll to Alonso!!!! Thats too funny

[@russelljimenez4715]

the biggest challenge is getting the quickcrete to set in time for FP2 lmao

[@Quattro_Joe]

On the up side the intercooler for the turbo is going to love life