Why Gaming Isn't "Fun" Anymore

[@ZenkaiGoose]

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[@Geo-pb6qw]

Editing with the voices and sounds, top notch. I forgive your editing guy for the fortnite skins.

[@agradeepdeb1650]

"I think I watch more videos about gaming than gaming" bro that hit home really really close to home

[@DANIEL-hp7dw]

So true as I also watch people stream games on Twitch or YT live rather than me playing.

[@flavioa6351]

Short attention span. You rather watch and do something else at the same time than fully focus on a game

[@Prifly70]

Same. I hate having to watch tutorials about how to play a game, I just wanna pick up and have fun. Guess I'm old and miss the good old days of gaming.

[@polystrate1]

@@flavioa6351 it means watching the game is more fun than playing the game. Simple as.

[@polystrate1]

@@Prifly70 VR is the new and better Wii. Just jump in, have fun, repeat. No silly leveling up to waste your time.

[@ETBrooD]

First they thought: fun = money Then they thought: more fun = more money Then they realized: addiction = way more money Then they realized: loyal addicts = best customers ever Therefore today: games = addiction + loyalty

[@blacklyfe5543]

Facts

[@CjLive]

Agreed, and it's killing me I'm 28 and these games suck no more love

[@jakeowenramos5754]

And you buy for every dlc of the game.... because of micro transactions... Not like in the old days

[@Exoskel2]

Gaming today is like a legalized gambling nowadays

[@utopic1312]

@@Exoskel2 no it isn't

[@journeytree]

I've sat on my PlayStation for hours trying to find something to do, but nothing looks remotely interesting.

[@ddrpimp123]

Same

[@HarryGrant-kd3zi]

Just play some rdr2

[@bertsalinas7491]

@@HarryGrant-kd3zi already beat that too

[@utopic1312]

@@bertsalinas7491 try indie games

[@hrthrhs]

AAA games are basically all the same now. FPSs (Halo, CoD and Battlefield) at their core are just sprint speed sliding around with a grapple hook bunny hoping around corners with colorful guns and emersion breaking skins. Action RPGs (Assassin's Creed, God Of War etc) are all romping around like a demi-God with quick dodges and attacks with slow motion takedowns with superpowers and colorful explosions. It's why the AAA gaming scene is so meh, because once you've played a couple of them you've just about played them all. You especially realise this when you compare games in these franchises 15 years ago, for example Halo 3, CoD MW2 and BF Bad Company or BF3, all offered a significantly different gaming experience compared to those franchises now.

[@jeffreyrussell4874]

Dude! I thought I was the only one who has stopped playing video games but continued to watch mostly video game content. Playing games feels like work anymore.

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Totally agree Jeffrey! Sure there's some stand outs but man lately nothings hitting for me 😭 Im sure Spiderman 2 will get me right in the feels

[@norman6524]

I've been doing this, though I've been playing Enter The Gungeon a bit recently

[@ZeroDrizzy]

Best explanation ive heard to how i feel.

[@chrisgonzalez5883]

Same here I understand the feeling. I played the hell out of PS2 and 3 when I was a teenager. But now it feels like most games are not as creative. As they used to 15 years ago.

[@ZeroDrizzy]

@@chrisgonzalez5883 Getting old sucks lol.

[@MrRyanwojcik]

Triple A games have definitely gotten to that point of soulless and boring for the multitude of reasons you mentioned, however just like movies or music, if you look through the crowd enough, there’s so much good content still being made. Ignore the EA, Activision and Ubisoft’s of the world and you still have a treasure trove of games out there to play. Broaden your taste and you’ll be pleasantly surprised! Indie developers have been on fire in recent years especially.

[@georgiestuff]

And because of the industry blowing up, it's now easier than ever to find those special games imo

[@mravg79]

While I agree on the indie titles. I would like to add so called mid-tier games to the mix. The games that use to be 30-40$ (now might be a bit more) were a nice experience but often a big shorter or put graphical style over realism. Examples: a plague tale both games, hellblade, HiFi Rush, Pentiment

[@time2play961]

i think a big part is the genre of those games too

[@mz7315]

OP and the first reply are correct. AAA games are so shit that the indie game market is flourishing now and are far more mainstream now.

[@greedpower565]

Its no wonder I enjoy games from the 90's - 2013. They're is a goldmine of excellent games. I've been into the darkstalkers series as of rn

[@rickwinters1673]

It started with Biker Mice from Mars and ends with Pepsiman for me.

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

On point brother, ON POINT!

[@M_MWhiskey]

Best game of all time 2013. Last of us ABSOLUTE

[@Vermilion2049]

I think the problem is there are too many games and most of them feel like the same chore.

[@deoxxys]

May I introduce you to indie games

[@edorik316_8]

@@deoxxys yeah for what? I'm not looking forward to play a pixellated action arcade game cmon I didn't start gaming in the early 00' in the arcades to get to 2024 to play the same things cmon

[@deoxxys]

@@edorik316_8 I mean do you play games to have fun or feel like you're doing busy work? Minecraft is still one of the most popular games ever and it's not graphically impressive. Sadly the AAA gaming industry has been mostly taken over by greedy businessmen, that's why there's so many of these "why isn't gaming fun anymore?" videos. Not the most exciting example but when I'm playing Balatro, a Poker roguelike game, simple pixel art works fine, I don't need impressive 3D graphics to have fun. What kind of games do you like? PS: 🤣 I also think it's funny you think that gaming was done in arcades in the early 2000s, you must be really young.

[@madlad4206]

@@deoxxys yeah nah indie games suck ass

[@taylornewell-je1zr]

No. It's the activists making soulless cash grabs.

[@GalickGun]

It's sad to see a generation who grew up during the golden age of gaming so full of hope and excitement for what future technology will bring, only to be utterly demoralized by corporate greed. This isn't how it was supposed to be. It's like we're at the point in technological advancement where these mindblowing video games are supposed to flood the market any second now, but they're all being killed off by these companies. Where's the creativity and passion? It's all wasted potential.

[@joshmiller5590]

This is where the retro-gamers on PC get to look smug. "How are you console guys enjoying your 9th generation digital lottery? Me and my buddies have been playing Unreal Tournament and Heroes of Might and Magic and they are just as fun as they were years ago!"

[@adi6293]

​@@joshmiller5590Heroes III is just as fun! 😜😂

[@brenanwilley1988]

Outdoor life is so much better hanging with people outside

[@Chillmindedpanther13]

U right man. Goldeneye made it fun. New gears, cod and new games like fort nite ruined it. 2K was once a gem, now? Not so much.

[@harrypatrick485]

​@@joshmiller5590 true true. Sold my PS5, got a PC. Fell back in love with gaming again.

[@edgarventura4559]

Games are just overly complicated now. It's too much going on whether it's in the options menu or just the game play itself. Sometimes simplicity is key which is what made some of the older games so fun. You'd didn't have to spend 30 minutes customizing your character before you could play. All you had to do was choose a player and hop into the game and reach the end goal. Now it feels more of a chore when you're gaming

[@Drstrange3000]

I definitely feel this effect. I think it is due to every game being made like an MMORPG with tacked on RPG mechanics and lots of bloat. Playing something as straightforward as Hi-Fi Rush and Sifu was really refreshing. It is one reason I like a lot of Nintendo games.

[@hyperflame7255]

What Games Are Complicated?

[@minisithunknown5568]

I thought most games had default skins to just put on to play... No one forces you to customize in games. You just feel like you are forced to do it.

[@davidtirlokhi4954]

Tbh i still play mafia 2, need for speed hot pursuit, and a little bit of gta 3; but now its just feeling like its another 9-5 tbh. Because im a big diablo fan but its just like i have to put in extra energy for no reason. I dont hate gaming, im just like another 9-5 type of gig. I just wish gaming were simple like mafia 2, gta 3, la noire, nfs hot pursuit, and diablo 3. Why are gaming companies making it long.

[@theblackoutexplorer2658]

Eh the customization part is fine especially when your good at it if I don’t wanna spend 30mins just do the bare minimum the real time sink is all this fetch quest shit GO COLLECT ALL 99 eagle feathers

[@miel307]

I felt that message about watching more about videogames then playing videogames. It do be like that. Everytime I play it just doesn't feel fun anymore, making me quit after like 1 hour of playtime....

[@miel307]

Give people enough coins to play it again next season. 'Coughs in Blizzard not giving enough to buy next D4 season'.

[@averageyoutubehandle497]

Play Undertale, ultrakill, hollow knight, or terraria. They're all massively different but all very fun for enjoyers of the genre they're in. Oh and the trine series

[@Area-tt7gb]

playing modded version of diablo2 while watching theese videos while waiting for gta 6 that will hopefully give me hope in the game industry again xD

[@virtual-adam]

@@averageyoutubehandle497 Yea the Indies are still great, just finished The Stanley Parable Ultra Deluxe...

[@barsthehippie]

As someone who’s said this, I can differentiate between games no longer being fun and not having the time to have the fun these games are supposed to give us. Games are no longer fun but we also as a whole grow up and realize we no longer have the infinite amount of time we thought we had as a kid.

[@joaomoreno1688]

Dude, you're spot on. Lately, whenever i feel the want to play any singular game, the fact that doing any small progress will take me hours and I'll probably not be able to do enough to make me feel accomplished when I stop my gaming session makes me lose the want to play entirely. And what I usually do is watch someone else play because then I can see the things I wanted to make being done but inside the free time span that I have, since youtubers compress big chunks of gameplay time into smaller videos

[@steveharper879]

So I think the only fair comparison means we would need to take kid gamers of today and have them play old games vs new games. Measure the happiness response in their brain, there's the real answer. Otherwise we can't factually conclude that games aren't fun anymore Be honest, think of all the things that were fun when you were a kid, are any of those things still fun? As most people who enjoyed videos games growing up,, now work long hours at a shit job they hate and come back tired and they live in a house/apartment that's much shittier than the comfortable house they grew up in as a kid. Yea it's getting dark, I'll stop . But the global systemic poverty/slavery crisis definitely plays it's role in this

[@ignskeletons]

I find myself having the most fun with random indie games that try crazy new ideas and are just focused on having fun

[@macles9051]

Last game I finished and enjoyed was Disco Elysium in April of this year. I have been gaming 2-5 hours a month since. I'm 35 and spent most of my life gaming, but I just struggle to enjoy games anymore. Gaming now feels more like a chore than the mean of escapism from chores.

[@davidtirlokhi4954]

Right its like a 9-5 ontop of a 9-5.

[@Bingo2501]

Yea, real shame, had so much fun playing video games in the 90s and 00s. 😕

[@tRaInWrEcK4751]

Thought I was the only one, turning 34 and games don't feel as fun anymore. I spend more time doing updates and trying to get it to work. I miss the days when you could fire up your xbox and play a split screen halo match within seconds. My cousins and I get together a couple times a year and every single time we spend over an hr having to log in and do updates. Why do we need to log in with our emails to play a damn game. Miss the days we could use guest accounts. I have a huge backlog of games with 0 motivation to play

[@asmodeusml]

Honestly, the worst thing is not that a lot of modern games don't turn out as fun as they could have been, but that a lot of them are made to be less fun ON PURPOSE.

[@spacepimpkevin1184]

I've loved videogames for a long time myself: but the reason it's not fun to play anymore is because people that make games are only interested in money and microtransactions and multiplayer. They are interested in making customers constantly have to spend money in some way rather than making better products that will garner success on their own merits. Recently i've been playing Baldur's Gate 3, Fear and Hunger and Cruelty Squad. All of these games are vastly different but what i enjoy about each of them is that they are made with artistic creativity and talent. They have intriguing and captivating stories that make me want to explore them and play them and suffer through the difficulties and consequences. I used to feel a thrill and a sense of intense enjoyment whenever i played competitive online game or shooters. Now everybody is so ganked on those types of games that it's impossible to tell if people are hacking or they are just ridiculously good to the point where it's not worth trying anymore (which still feels inhuman and sus) Now i just enjoy a good story, good characters and an enjoyable experience.

[@hyperflame7255]

I’d Recommend The Ice Scream Series Where As It’s Not Shooter Game Instead Horror, But I’d Say The Game Is Really Solid The Graphics Are Chill And Has A Good Story And Creativity

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

Single Player gamer to Multiplayer gamer: “Wow, sucks to be you.”

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Single Player games are OP as long as they aren't forced to be live service

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

@@ZenkaiGooseBalder’s Gate 3, Starfield, Dead Space, Armored Core 6, Hi-Fi Rush… Yeah, there’s plenty Single Player non-live-services. Gaming is awesome.

[@spudmaster1793]

@@Rainbowhawk1993 Elden Ring as well

[@Chillmindedpanther13]

Agents of Mahem is single player. Yoy would enjoy the hell out of it.

[@sargentordb507]

@@Rainbowhawk1993starfield was ok

[@JayJDee.]

I literally watch play throughs of older ps2-3 & Xbox /360 games that’s how much I miss the old games & their style

[@johnfoster2584]

Sports games are the epitome of this.

[@moharoa9676]

When: Gamers and hobbyists are the developers: FUN Employees and business man are the developers: DIARRHEA

[@brandongabel]

I knew almost immediately after starting this video that you were a quality creator. So many people cover this subject but you did it uniquely and very well. You’ve gained a new sub. GG 🤙

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Brandon! Huge huge thanks for taking the time to write such a dope comment. Really appreciate it and looking forward to making more content you like! We're going to the moon 🚀

[@docskiDev]

indie dev here.. I have this feeling too.. its a bit sad sometimes.. mind you, my own game does not solve this issue but its small and Id say it represents less than 10% of my image for it. My dream is to be like games such as battlebit. What I will say is, when you have to pay the bills, its difficult to not look at the competition making bank and go "they do this, theyre successful, let me try" Id say, theres 2 types of games on the market... the business games and the art games (games designed as experiences first), business games took over because they were willing to pay anyone and everyone to share their content which means no eyes for the art focused games. While its easy to say, make what you love, Its painful to work on something for hundreds of days on end/with investors money - for it to not go anywhere, so, it makes sense some developers yield. Streamers also affected this massively since not all experiences are stream friendly, which means only X types of games get streamed, the rest get no eyes and devs try to make whats stream friendly.

[@chozochiefxiii3298]

Simple answer, people are just playing the wrong stuff and haven't fully explored whats out there. Personally im overwhelmed by how many games are out there that I'm unable to just decide what to play.

[@guntherhuemer1767]

your comment is me....... 8 years ago 🥲

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Should I give Zenkai Editor a promotion or a firm hug?

[@lyricchain120]

Frim hand shake or a hand hug if you will

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

Just a wink

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Firm handshakes all around

[@ZenkaiGoose]

I like your style

[@FunkyFurret]

both

[@sofaking1627]

I'm too busy enjoying Baldur's Gate 3 to be bothered by all the sub-par games.

[@AlexRocks80s]

It’s gotten really bad that I’ve been watching streams of my favorite old games. (Years ago I hated watching people play) Like you said I still follow game news and that ends up being more interesting than the games themselves

[@ZenkaiGoose]

I legit just watched a playthrough of Conker's Bad Furday instead of playing it myself 😭 I have a problem hahah

[@NinethieMusic]

It unironically became super industrialised, by the numbers, print out husks of what they used to be. Games very rarely have soul now. Make money, cater to streamers and the top 1%, increase revenue quick and fast

[@georgiestuff]

If you want passion and soul, you play small team indie games

[@Lord_Thumbs]

Probably the best ‘out of love’ video on you tube about gaming. Great job

[@mumblesspeedtalker5526]

I grew up playing games in the 90s played them with my family family and friends i think for me its the price increase on game the more minimization and lack of couch coop and splitscreen on games now of days .

[@izzydarkhart4144]

The past 2 years have been some of the best years for gaming personally. First off i do not play games i do not like ever and put a lot of reseach before buying. I honestly feel people dwell way to much on negativity now a days, and constantly watching videos making them even more down. Also every reference is primarily pointing at mainstream games which i do not play but there are millions of videos and advertisers threwing them at your face making you think those are your only option when that is not true.

[@nicolascastrogonzalez6077]

KZbin used to be fun as well

[@Velvett_Thunder]

KZbin is still fun. Just your attention span is screwed bc of tiktok 😭

[@bombyvonbomberson3285]

For me. The over monetisation by KZbin itself as a business, and the good production value of the videos where in most cases, they can compete with a network channel, has killed the spirit of what made KZbin good.

[@axel3689]

@@Velvett_Thunder KZbin isn't fun anymore, it's just that you were born after 2010.

[@Velvett_Thunder]

@@axel3689 lol im 2002 born

[@Loknath009]

Agree, ads are extremely annoying.

[@Flaxgamess]

Great video! I've been basically only playing Tears of the Kingdom and indies lately. You know, TOTK is such a massive game it's nice to take breaks with smaller games like Death's door, or Tunic, or Planet of Lana. Also stopped playing MP games altogether. It's just too much. Especially nowadays in 2023.

[@matthew_justice]

Great video - I really enjoyed it! I can relate - many modern games just aren't very fun to me. There's too much effort required; too much complexity. Fortunately, I've held onto my classic consoles, and many of my favorite retro games are just as fun today as they were years ago. Also, there are indie devs creating new games that don't embrace the trends described in this video. Unfortunately, it's hard for them to get attention... the AAA studios and games get the spotlight.

[@ENXGMA_YT]

Fun videogames are still out there. You just need to dig through the piles of crap they're hiding under. Excellent video btw 💯

[@ZenkaiGoose]

The man, the myth, the legend 💯

[@BlazeOfGlory742]

And it’s allota piles

[@lvadimass]

and most of them are indie

[@MrZeeweee]

Games like hades, hollow knight, Celeste, etc prove that games are still good

[@carkmagus6219]

Honey come quick Goose dropped another video!

[@ZenkaiGoose]

And Cark Magnus dropped another 10/10 comment

[@orenofrat2019]

I swear its like that every time

[@godieinafirenow]

The problem I have is modern "games" have too much talking and not gameplay. If I wanted to watch a movie, I'd just watch a movie. If I play a game I want to "play" an actual game. Most videogame directors think they are movie directors but can't make it in the industry. All games should have a skip all dialogue option. Or just a summary of the story and cutscenes.

[@KINGxINISIDIOUS]

This video needs more views the industry has lost its way. We need to get back to FUN!

[@srialekhyananduri7036]

It's really fun watching your videos and those editor notes😂 Zenaki Editor Numba 1 I am subscribing!

[@LX1931.]

your videos are amazing man. I could watch this all day I can tell you and your editor have great chemistry

[@phunkyfelion]

Unfortunately, this isn't just the gaming industry. This is every Saas/App company we know today. It's not that they didn't complete the game on time - this is actually a tech business model. 1. Ship MVP (minimum viable product) - basic core game/app/software & minimum features enticing enough for customers to buy. 2. Customer Analytics & Feedback - track customer usage, product performance, etc. 3. Push Updates - bug fixes and next add-on or feature. Rinse, Repeat. Awesome video! Saw this on another channel and had to come over and support! PS Love the Marty McFly vibes :)

[@andrewwilson5686]

I'm glad I stumbled across your channel and subbed. You really put together quality stuff. Keep it up

[@ZenkaiGoose]

I really appreciate you took the time to write that Andrew! Thanks so much and I'm glad you like the content!

[@CarterPCs_Do_The_Thug_Shake]

Let's go! New upload! Your editing is insane!

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Classic Scotch Tape W! Thank you fam

[@Lumino3]

Just discovered you and been binge watching some of your vids. Think I found a new favourite channel! Very entertaining, I filled 6 hours with it tonight while gaming!

[@ActuallyZee]

Its people buying everything regardless of quality, creativity died with buyers restraint. If you know a whale SHAME them into oblivion.

[@miloman812]

I am finally starting to have fun with some solo games again, for the longest time I was sucked into this trap of thinking playing with or against people was the only way to play. Across the board, it’s the competitiveness now. When I was 10-13 years old I was a hardcore gamer and had more time than adults, so I would get all the trash talk in the world between mw2 and black ops 1, really every cod between mw2 and black ops/mw3 I was a pro at. Over the years I quit playing as much and now I hop on cod and I’m the one getting absolutely wrecked. If you play games you actually enjoy rather than hopping on the newest online craze with your friends, gaming will almost always find a way to be fun. However, if you lean on video games like a drug, they will get boring. You need to have healthy hobbies you enjoy to get the greatest appreciation of video games. I have learned that when it’s all you want to do, you get burnt out and depressed. Mix that with a lack of sleep because of video games, you can become mentally unstable. This is just a message to all my fellow gamers out there who have gone through it like I have at points in time. Gotta take care of ourselves fellas.

[@PlaystationNinja-nj8is]

Games are not fun anymore. The endless collector's editions, day 1 patches, loot boxes, microtransactions, dlc, etc have taken all the enjoyment out of gaming. The gaming business as a whole has gotten more predatory and more anti-consumer. With the push to live service based games to a all digital future gaming has lost the fun it once had. We don't even get complete games anymore at launch. I'm a Street Fighter fan. Street Fighter is my favorite series. But Capcom doesn't give us a complete Street Fighter at launch. Nope. You know there is going to be 3 or 4 rounds of dlc characters that you have to pay extra for. This is why I stopped buying games at launch.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

I play old games now. 20 year old games actually

[@thatplushieguy]

Dude the gun rant was so true and hilarious, just subscribed!

[@Lucky_9705]

Much like where it was around 2005-2006, gaming is in a very transitional state. Things will improve when the new things release.

[@frankwren8215]

Another thing really killing the fun in games is the censorship driving people away from communicating for fear of bans. No one is in game chat anymore because of this.

[@Aether-Entropy]

Absolutely. Compelled censorship is a massive problem. Hand over speech should be taken to the Supreme Court

[@Synchro789]

Quit being a jerk online

[@georgiestuff]

Lack of censorship can also kill fun. Something to keep in mind.

[@Kal-El207]

Tbh. Most people don’t talk on the chats anymore because everyone has developed this idea that being anti-social is cool. So everyone either texts you through game or just stays silent. It’s weird because if you pay attention to how everyone speaks about themselves, everyone is always claiming they’re introverts. And what’s their idea of an introvert? Someone who doesn’t talk to anybody. Doesn’t want to leave the house. Recluse, has no friends, no social life etc. people have mistaken anti-socialism with introversion. A lot of people in this day and age in modern day societies seem to think that being anti-social is cool and makes them appear mysterious and sought after. They seem to think that being quiet on purpose and reclusive that it’ll somehow make people chase after them. Then when it doesn’t work, they complain that they’re lonely and have no friends. This is a huge problem. Instead of trying to feed your ego and need for validation by being something you’re not. How about you actually get out of your own head and realize that you’re worth talking to as the person you are? You aren’t this big, silent, strong type. Idgaf what the internet says about being “stoic” cuz the meaning of that word has come to mean the same thing as anti-social now. Just be you. Be who the world needs and that’s the person you are deep down. This idea that you’re this cool, mysterious figure is not what you think it is. You trying to be this Batman like person isn’t working for a reason. It makes people avoid you and see you as weird. And it’s true. It’s WEIRD to act like something you’re not so you can get MORE ATTENTION AND VALIDATION. A lot of people sense how fake you’re being and how big of a liar you are. Just be YOU.

[@Chris-rh9nb]

This is why I dont buy games anymore when they release. Too many bugs, patches, "improvements". Back log of old games and indie all the way.

[@Bails0796]

Agree with everything in this video. Games used to be about the developers passion for a game, look at cliff blezinski for GoW. Why do you think we don't get developer diaries anymore on how games are made? It's because 1000s of people are being flogged like workhorses to develop a sub par product with corporate suits hanging over them to incorporate microtransactions in everything. Think about how much better these complex games could be if all these 'in game purchases' were earnt through gameplay. It's not so much the retention element that is the bad thing, it's how they implement this element through further costs to the player. Games have always been about retention but the difference 10 years ago compared to now was that you could earn EVERYTHING in a game by playing it for a moderate amount of time or doing some in game feat. Halos Hyabusa armour is a testament to that for completing the game on legendary and feeling proud to earn the armour through mastering a part of the game. A message for anyone who endorses microtransactions, nobody gives a damn about your rainbow coloured pistol with your flaming helmet because we know you were sad enough to spend extra money on a game and giving in to what the industry wants you to do. Rant over.

[@0fflineish]

Awesome video! Really informative, and sick edits 🤙🏼 I do hope that this sentiment regarding games not feeling fun anymore makes its way into the eyes and ears of large gaming studios/developers. If they know that as a collective we feel games aren’t so fun anymore, hopefully, they’ll begin a journey to change that in games for our future!

[@shahnazstrishaikh]

I chose to not get the ps5. I'm going retro. Now that I have more time, I can actually play more games.

[@xD-rf3yp]

i have finished all those old games but i still replay those game to feel nostalgic and makes me happy

[@theshisho]

That's why I stick to older titles. Just give me a fun experience, not a second job lmao Good story + easy mechanics = love Also, I really enjoy party games like what Nintendo does. It's just straight up fun. That's what a game should be. Let me enjoy simplicity and weird unrealistic interactions and scenarios. If I want hyper realism and financial frustration, I have reality. I want to escape it, not replicate it and force myself to think I'm having fun. It's just sad. And the industry is not recognizing this because all the gamer sheep are mindlessly accepting it.

[@Zuljyn]

4:32 omg that edit was beautiful! xD

[@johnnymartin8480]

It’s not fun anymore because instead of making fun innovative games, they listen to all the cry babies and we end up with a shitty product because they tried to please the babies instead of entertaining the masses.

[@Bustermachine]

Me at 2:18 - You mean you STOLE your brother's gameboy?!

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

Gaming has to be one of the most interesting “arts”. So much so the potential market for fun has become super complicated. There are people who only stick to a single game series. Like people who ONLY play Cod or AC, TF2, etc. Sadly I blame these people for being the “WHALES” that created the current gaming casino situation. Then there is the collector gamer. Although some have created literal IRL libraries, those who are in the middle of the spectrum are the ones that spawned the “collectors edition” for all big release, just getting the game is not enough, it’s a lifestyle of CONSUMING! Then there is the Pirate gamer. People who turn their PC’s into emulator machines, and those who reached terminal levels will even try to pirate month 1 games. Funnily enough, these pirate are also the equivalent of the people who watch gaming videos over playing them. The pirate has access to more games than he will have time to live, so he is overwhelmed by choice and simply doesn’t pick. While the viewer has the ability to watch all games, but because he knows the game he no longer feels the need to buy the game for himself. And after I grouped the consumer… ITS THE SURFACE LEVEL! People can partake in many more consuming habits with games and sadly it’s the choices of a few that have changed the fun of the many (referring to the creation of Micro-transactions + big DLC’s).

[@prajwaljayaraj5887]

It's very rare that I find a channel on games that's equal parts charming and entertaining as it is informative. Your videos are fantastic

[@defended]

gaming used to be an escape, now its all about squeezing the most money out of a player. i havent turned on my series X in well over 6 months, between the mix of lack of enjoyable games, friends growing up/apart it just seems like you almost has to force yourself to sit through it. between that and the intense SBMM in almost every game now a days ill just enjoy videos about video games.

[@XDaWsOnX2]

Just watched this from Time page. Extremely well done. Spot on.

[@J.Wolf90]

Cool video man. I quit gaming a while back because of how everything is now

[@ZenkaiGoose]

It's a wild ride for sure, but I think this year might have a few bangers left. I'm really hyped for Spider-man 2! Also really glad you liked the video J Wolf!

[@J.Wolf90]

@ZenkaiGoose even if there are bangers and new games from your favorite franchises it ain't worth it anymore

[@BlazeOfGlory742]

Just ain’t worth it anymore. Gaming is absolutely trash.

[@J.Wolf90]

@@BlazeOfGlory742 💯

[@MasterFloop]

Gotta say I love the editing in this video! It really helped show you story telling chops! Kept me invested!

[@gamingedition5165]

Thats why im at this point in my life i think this generation of consoles could very well be my last. Mainly playing last gen games or 360 gsmes anyway.

[@eagleeyegaming8532]

Same

[@valdasgliaubertas7490]

Very easy answer: games used to tell the story, very good story and drag your time with shooting/doing stuf in between to get more of a story and it was not too complicated which means fun. Latest games over complicated with vast open world content and most of it means absolutely 0 to a player, poor stories or none of it, people get bored quickly in there. Take Resident Evil, Fable games as an example, it has superb stories and some activities in between, fighting enemies, doing puzzles and what not to get more of a story. So story is the most important reason, everything else secondary. There should be a good balance of a story and activities. Cyberpunk did pretty good job, though open world was not necessary IMO, it is enough to have only main mission. Other type of games are like Doom or Serious Sam, where you just kill stuf for fun, nothing else there and some like it too, everything in a middle is unpopular and unwanted by players.

[@MrBaroshi]

Couldn’t agree more!! I actually stopped playing Zelda:TOTK because it felt like work.

[@tylerhansen931]

Turned off auto update and played that whole game with the dupe glitch. That's how I will always play it, makes the game 1000× more enjoyable, cuts out massive amounts of pointless tedium and boring grinding

[@ZenkaiGoose]

YO! Same exact thing here. I felt insane because everyone was saying its the greatest game of all time but it never clicked for me 😭

[@tylerhansen931]

@@ZenkaiGoose there were so many horrible ideas put into it. Want to upgrade your battery? No quests or dungeons for that, instead go pick up rocks in the pitch black underground where everything looks the same. Oh by the way, if you want to autobuild things, you'll need to collect more rocks. Want to upgrade armor? You need 50 of a rare item that you find once every few hours. Half the rewards in it are earned through doing repetitive chores. The game overall is just a chore to play, but duping does a lot to alleviate things

[@Hamood113]

@@tylerhansen931I agree man, I couldn’t imagine getting through that game without duping. It made the game so much more fun and manageable, especially for someone like me who has little free time

[@justsumCrumbs]

"Berry is the best" you say with the Lime Green in the background. Ouch. Anyways, as you get older you lose that sense of wonder since you've experienced so much. Been loving these small gaming channels I've been finding. Got my sub.

[@ZenkaiGoose]

haha that's my brothers

[@tyisamess]

If your not having fun with video games in 2023, your playing the wrong games.

[@ZenkaiGoose]

There's some outliers, but even the games with critical acclaim don't hold my attention. Was really bummed with Diablo 4 personally. Vampire Survivors has me hooked until I realized its just me moving a single stick for hours lol Party Animals has been fun tbh until you hit the grind

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Personally I'm excited to try Spider-man 2, those spiderman games are really special to me for a variety of reasons

[@michaelarojas]

Lol, no.

[@jcdisil2024]

Saw this video on another KZbin channel. Had to come by and show some love. Great video and well said sir.

[@whitecloud_riv]

1. a lot of people find gaming "unfun" because they arent willing to try anything new. like i think nadia (the cod cheater girl) said "gaming is in the worst state its ever been in" but ive literally only seen her play cod and nothing else. i would find gaming boring too if i only played one game for months on end too. 2. when someones favorite content creator has an opinion, they have to have to same opinion as their favorite content creator so they force their brain to find things boring, be overcritical of every game, nitpick at every game, etc. 3. some people think triple A are the only games to exist (for whatever reason) so to them, its either the latest released game or no game at all except couple games theyre already playing (which are triple A games)

[@Marquality]

I distinctly remember being ~13/14, knee deep in a 12 hour gaming sesh with a bunch of friends during a middle school summer and thinking: “I’ll never be the one that says he doesn’t play video games ‘like that’ anymore”. Fast forward through becoming an adult in a relationship, multiple new responsibilities, and working a job - I now game maybe twice a month. Granted those few gaming sessions are most likely old, nostalgic games. Otherwise, I’m an avid consumer of gaming playthroughs and video essays as a replacement.

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Yeah i've fallen into this camp as well, i go through periods of nothing hitting (all 2023) then Spider-Man 2 hits and I binged the whole thing 😂 I think I just want better stories in games, and more focus on the actual gameplay, but it's gotta be a tough balance for sure

[@demoncyborg98]

Indie games saved gaming.

[@Kal-El207]

Yes because side scrollers are so engaging.

[@oscarguzman3017]

​@@Kal-El207 Side scrollers CAN be engaging, and there's a lot more than that out there, dude

[@Guerry78]

How does this only have 57k views? It’s a brilliant video. Well done

[@cwx8]

People have been mentally conditioned to do things for XP/rewards/cosmetics/etc instead of just playing for competition and fun. Same way people have been mentally conditioned to think the government aren't useless idiots--remember those good ol days? It's a psychological contagion. We are to blame for how bad games are now.

[@ltisdabest21]

Yet all these comments in this comment section say otherwise plus cosmetics are the funniest thing to be annoyed at they literally don't change the mechanics of a game I could see why this is an issue for Cod cuz they rarely add stuff but games like Fortnite are constantly adding content for free that everyone can participate in and the micro transactions yall hate don't effect gameplay content being paywalled in modern games is another retarded point lol you literally had to pay for dlc to play new maps in old cods so that's not paywalling? what cuz you like the game?

[@92essink]

Last game I thoroughly enjoyed was Red Dead Redemption 2 and that was 2018. Kinda got into the assassins creed valhalla and the drastically lost enjoyment out of recent games. I find myself going through my backlog of games that are actually fun. This video really makes me feel good knowing I'm not the only one that's felt this way lately. I used to get excited for new stuff not anymore.

[@lensboi1229]

1st world problem. be thankful you have the means and time to play games

[@EnricoSan22]

Guys, anybody knows the song's name at 2:34? Great content btw

[@ZenkaiGoose]

I gotchu Enrico! I just checked and it's Last Odyssey by ELFL. Cheers!

[@EnricoSan22]

@@ZenkaiGoose thanks a lot Goose, keep up with the amazing quality of your videos 💪

[@iamsus3144]

Hey starfield is fun!

[@DaddyDWALLY]

I agree! #SeeYouInTheStars

[@jamesjackson4135]

We will agree to disagree. Glad your having fun. Didn't hook me in the first 30hrs. I gave up

[@TuLokotron2010]

Just found your page and this is the second vid of your i see. I can totally relate. Gaming just isnt the same anymore. To me gaming peaked during the xbox360/ps3 era. After that, i feel gaming has become a chore with little to no stand out games since then. I watch gaming content just gine and am entertained but 0laying myself feels like a chore/grind now. Aside from ff7 remake, rebirth, and soon gta 6, ive bought and half finished so many games its not even funny. -_- my.back log is littered with games that hinestly i dont even feel like going back too.

[@Aj851-z8x]

That's why i stick to nintendo only games. Simple, fun and easy to put down again.

[@michaelarojas]

SNES, Switch, N64, GameCube?

[@Regithegamer]

As someone that's played games exclusively on Nintendo and PC for the past 27 years, I can only disagree here. There's plenty of lower budget games that are still fun and it's very easy to play games of many different genres to mix things up instead of playing the same slop over and over. I'm primarily a JRPG fan but I also play platformers, puzzles, farming sims, cRPGs, action RPGs, card games, 1st/3rd person shooters, visual novels, metroidvania clones, Souls-likes, etc. You have to spend a little more effort to dig past the heavily marketed, lowest common denominator AAA games sure but there's plenty there in the catalogue if you don't limit yourself to all the latest releases within the past 6 months or bother to dive into indies even. Honestly, high fidelity 3D graphics are a sham and has only made AAA worse. I do feel bad for you if you only enjoy shooters and sports games though since those have definitely gone down the drain in the past decade.

[@H.E.M.]

People keep making these types of videos yet I’m having the best time in gaming since forever.

[@MobileGamingLegendz]

Saw tim the tatman reacted to this, so I skipped his video and came straight here. Really well made video, you def have what it takes to make it on YT . Great job. New Sub here

[@YuniorGamboa]

Dude, your channel is super underrated. You are absolutely right, I personally spend more time watching videos, reviews, in-depth analysis, and news rather than playing the games itself.

[@jonathanshivel1302]

Games back in the day were truly new!! Never played anything like it before. Now rinse and repeat

[@fleazapp]

indie baby! and buying games from xbox360 backwards while they are still cheap

[@LnyLvgd]

Okay this was actually the first video I “watched” cause I listened to it at work today 😂 so I’m gonna watch the rest of the videos on your channel now, thanks!

[@ZenkaiGoose]

haha that's awesome Lnyvgd! I'm glad you like the content!

[@jian6569]

I grew up with the Nintendo ds and gamecube. These games are peak for me. It was fun, simply to understand without speaking English, no micro transitions/p2w and no esports. I recently got my first COD and god im getting sick of the micros. I spend 60 for the game yet rhey want me to spend 20 for a mf skin. I CAVED IN TOO. i hate it i hate it i hate it. You worded this video so good, exactly as i was thinking lol.

[@ZenkaiGoose]

the gamecube boot sound lives rent free in my head forever hahah love it

[@wilfredwayne7139]

I own both next gen consoles and couldn't be more disappointed with each. Barely anything to play on them.

[@ShantoShmento]

That's because there is no passion in game making anymore. They half ass it and make an online service where everything is paid for. I remember growing up in the 90's, it was the best time because there was no such thing as connecting your console to the internet and receiving updates/dlc's/having to buy content just to enjoy the full content of the game.

[@sullyschwartz2365]

Same here; JUST got a PS5 and while Im really enjoying the exclusives after a life of xbox (though ive already played both TLOU on my brother's PS4)-I still feel... hollow? I think its like whats happened with exercising/the gym; Both have blown up in popularity, going from being viewed as something for 'specific types' of people to being for everyone-which is great and true, everyone should exercise and theres something for everyone with VG. Except, rather than try to EXPAND on the WHY for how exercise and VG are for everyone, groups and companies have tried to CREATE more possibilities on WHAT these things have to offer. The issue with that? The VAST majority of what's being "created" is unnecessary; As you said, "complicated". Exercising should at LEAST start simple (see where im going here?) yet you find these complex compound movements being encouraged-instead of patches, you have plans and routines, fads and trends, rarely does any of it actually improve or address the quality of experience for gym-goers. Competition? Again, look at gym. I had body dysmorphia issues being well-built at 15 with a BP Five rep Max of 220 and 1RM squatting 385; How tf am I supposed to have confidence or even focus on something like physical therapy at 22 yo weighing 50 pounds more in the worst of ways when Ive got people around me on PED, ego lifting, and/or recording themselves? Ive got ADHD and ASD-I cant just ignore them all or jam my workout period into a random time period. And the exact same thing happens in gaming, youve got people hacking, dripping with sweat from speedscrolling wiki pages for current metas and others being extra for the sake of streaming-meanwhile, youre probably trying to just learn the game or get back into it. And while gaming community started with a majority of just chill people more than willing to help, the flooding has led to a rise of the asforementioned two categories of players-leading to 'crops' of communities getting drowned out, either by other players or even the gaming companies themselves. R6Siege is nothing like the rest of its series ffs, same with 343's takes on Halo. Working out used to be a way of not just improving oneself, but learning about oneself and what we like/are capable of (like finding out you have really good trap genetics or quads etc.), only to now SOLELY be about 'improving' oneself-about WHERE youre at and WHAT you can do-this adds onto that impatience, that feeling of failure, of realizing just how much 'work' there is for you to catch up, let alone reach baseline. Video games? Sure, it was about escape, but the main focus was the fun, mastering the concept of a game mechanic and finding the ways YOU can interact with it, all the while discovering new worlds and experiencing the writing and art of talented creators. Now? Its just an escape, a poor one-one you cant even focus too hard on to escape the world because then youll realize/remember how youre doing it just/mainly for said escaping. (Unless a game is particularly addictive/amazing) its perfectly fine that I should find more satisfaction out of picking up a few day's worth of trash around my place. But when I feel more progress and accomplishment from throwing away two water bottles and the wrapper from a protein bar that morning-theres something extremely wrong with the game. At that point its no longer even an escape, just an *attempt* at being distracted.

[@Drstrange3000]

I felt this to my core. Good write up!

[@TheGodfather101]

before: product drives the business now: business drives the product

[@el_pinomar]

Like if you are here because of TimTheTatMan vid.

[@shinra2755]

Great video. Critical analysis is a rare thing in KZbin gaming these days. I find the emphasis on ‘cinematics’ and ‘story’ in many modern games at the expense of quality gameplay is a major problem. These titles are rarely fun after the first run through.

[@FNCVessel]

Gaming is fun. Yall are just depressed and don't play anything good.

[@whitecloud_riv]

reported for spreading factual information

[@bingbingproductions]

Awesome video I enjoyed it and by the way Zenaki Editor Numba 1!

[@ZenkaiGoose]

Thanks as always bingbing! And ill be sure to let that rascal know you liked his editing

[@HaasSpitta]

Describes all the problems in a cynical yet engaging/ entertaining way. Also wonderful editing. Bravo

[@CR7STRIKERCR7]

Man you’re world class, I love your videos

[@CadenIdkLol]

The reason gaming isnt fun is due to the terrible deadlines that are given to the devs. Another thing is that customers are impatient and would rather it NoW and not later even though theyre losing a ton of quality if they get it right then and there. Games are like cakes. Cakes are beautiful works of expression which is actually a form of therapy to most people. Hell, even eating the cake is pleasuring. If you rush on the cake, you will make multiple mistakes and the quality of the cake won't be good. This logic also applies to games. If rushed it will be unpolished, lesser detail, and the experience playing it won't be pleasant.

[@kodiakclutch4720]

"Zenaki Editor Number one" Because that is exactly how your editor typed and shipped his comment ahahaha