Why "GENERIC" Light Weight Cores Are BETTER For Your Game!

[@HunterBishop30]

Always fun to watch people throw lighter balls. Seeing someone's grandpa throw more revs than me is always a great sight.

[@ralphfamiglietta2072]

Thank you for this video from a Senior player who moved from a 14 pound arsenal to 12! The hardest part of my transition was accepting the fact that my physical game was suffering because of heavier weight.

[@andrewscudder4938]

Due to a pinched nerve in my neck and carpal tunnel I had to drop from 15lbs to 12lbs. Funny thing my average went from 150ish to 180ish.

[@brunsnick]

Able to control it and manipulate the roll better it seems. 👍🏻

[@kschleich1950]

What ball? Im looking for a good hooking 12 pounder.

[@GrumpaBaggins]

Brunswick Infinity or Perfect Mindset are great asymmetrical hybrids with really nice hook. ​@kschleich1950

[@dylanclay2741]

​@@kschleich1950raw hammer, storm tropical surge and brunswick rhino are all good. I'd say the raw hammer hooks the most aggressively. I personally use a 12lb storm tropical surge for oily conditions and storm mix for spare and dry conditions

[@GCare100]

The thing is I’ve seen people throw 12 pound ball throw higher scores than someone 15 pounds. The weight of a ball makes no difference to your scores.

[@JoeBrrFan]

I get the feeling you are talking about Motiv balls. Well.. I went to Motiv from Hammer because of the core. Oh..and I do roll a 12lb ball. I'm disabled and 64, I tried to roll a 14 and couldn't make it past 16 frames. So 12 it is. But, core aside, Motiv seems to work better for me, except for one ball.. Hammer's Radioactive Vibe, still a beast of ball. But Motiv's Pride Dynasty. Jackal Ghost, Jackal Ambush, Black Venom, Pride Empire and Nuclear Forge, all seem, at least to me, strike more, give me the reacation I'm looking for more than Hammer. And I love Hammer. Been a Hammerhead since I was in my 20's. But Motiv works better for me. Now it might not for anyone else. But I think the core does matter, and the coverstock does matter, and Motiv offers them together. Am I being decieved by Motiv when they say it's the same core??? If I am, I am ok with it. I am thankful you finally did a vid on 12lb balls, I know they work. 197 average. My average with 15lb ball.. 174. People talk about more deflection, well, when you hit at the 17 1/2 board.. deflection is not an issue. And I do get messengers now I never had with a 15lb ball. Speed of 15lb around 14 at best. Speed with 12lb ball, ave16-17. More speed. Speed kills.. pins. Great vid. And thanks for doing a light ball. Please do more.

[@jazlarvonsteich]

Motiv doesn't use generic cores. They also don't put the same core in every weight. If the core can't be used in a certain weight, they don't make the ball in that weight. Check their site. Some balls are only made in 14-16. Most 12-16. The only current balls that are 10-16 are the Top Thrills. And those use a lightbulb type shape. If Nick is talking about them (and it's likely, as SPI uses alternate cores), it's a bit misleading to claim they say they use the same core in every weight. Perception vs Reality. Nothing wrong with generic cores, but there's definitely going to be more of a difference in ball motion over different weights using the same core shape.

[@georgiostsimogianis6712]

I went with Motiv for the same reason. Wrist can't handle the 15# anymore, so I'm dropping down to 13#. Just picked myself up a Primal Shock, which, amazingly, has a higher differential (.055) than its 15# counterpart (.050)! Excited to try this baby out!

[@marymckenna5524]

I'm a slow speed senior beginner and recently picked up a Motiv 11 lb Thrill (not Top Thrill) Pearl because it has a core and it is 1 lb heavier than my previous ball. First time throwing a Motiv Ball and my scores improved with it.😃

[@ObjectiveEthics]

I had to drop to 12 pounds when I blew out my elbow. I found that slowing down my ball speed and getting it outside was actually very successful. High games of 273 and 265 so far and I just started bowling last summer. I hope to be fully healed by next summer and use a 14 pound.

[@slo_mo_Sally]

Thank you for doing this video. It’s very informative. I roll 12-lb balls, and it’s good to feel included and to know I can strike with entry angle.

[@papaarmo5028]

I personally throw 12 pound balls as a 38 year old with joint issues and reactive hypoglycemia that dropped almost 50 lbs of weight that i couldn't lose. Im a 5 foot 10 male and barely weights 130. 12 lbs have saved my game

[@ALFAJERKBFH]

Funny that you have this video today. With my arm problems (wrist & elbow), I was asking my friend if going under 13 lbs would ruin my game. If anything, I might have to start bowling with two hands.

[@ObjectiveEthics]

I throw 12lb because of an elbow injury. High games 273 and 265 with a 186 avg. Just started bowling last summer so I feel like I can actually improve quite a bit. 12lb just means you either rocket the ball up the 8-10 board or you slow down and throw entry at around 25 all the way out to the 5 board and create major entry angle.

[@ALFAJERKBFH]

@@ObjectiveEthics Thank you 👍

[@FredSoDak]

Enjoy your informative videos. Wife still has a 12lb Ebonite Cyclone; it has a high differential core; even down to 11lbs. Those were something special, even when they moved that core to the Ebonite Destiny series. And with her slow speed, it is the strongest ball for boards covered.

[@T.H.4219]

Good video Sir, because your video answer my question. I'm 62 and I throw a 15lb ball so now I'm going to look into getting a 13lb ball to see if my avg. goes up or down. Thanks!!!

[@brunsnick]

My guess is up! Especially if you’re struggling with 15 at the moment. 👍🏻

[@ND-jz7yk]

I don't think we've ever seen you smile this much before, LOL! Jokes aside, I recently had wrist surgery, and unfortunately, I'm unable to roll the ball down the lane as effortlessly as I used to without experiencing some discomfort. Despite my 13lb Radical RIdiculous causing a fair amount of deflection, I'm having a blast, and isn't that what it's all about, having fun? Keep up the great content!

[@brunsnick]

Absolutely! Bowl pain free and make it your goal to split the 8-9 every shot.

[@KC-zz1so]

Great video. When you referenced the CZ....Rico drilled Classic Zone, one of my All time favorite balls.

[@AussiePillow1]

The best game of my life so far has been 245 with a 10lb Ebonite Cyclone. Best ive done with my 14lb is 231.

[@Epic3032]

my best game in my life so far was 210 with a 12lb Phaze 2. which league you in? I'm in a league at Zonebowling Penrith

[@squidly2112]

I bowled a 8/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/9 game this year with my 12lb practice ball. I use my 12lb ball to warm up my first game for practice, or for a game before I play league. It works great for warm up and I use it to cool down from practice too. I also use it a lot of practice during long practice sessions when working on release and other such things. I can control it a little better when working on particular aspects before I move up to my heavy balls. I really get a lot of use out of my 12lb practice ball. I was struggling last week in league and went to my 12lb practice ball for my last game, scored my best game of the night, by far (237). I just got frustrated that I couldn't get the lanes figured out and I wasn't rolling particularly well, so said "screw it" and went to my 12lb ball, ended up being a good choice.

[@jimk9290]

Great info! I was helping a lady pick a 10-lb. ball the other day, and there was only 1 that was any different than all of the others. I can't remember which one it was, but it had a medium differential, where all the others were very low. Like you said, you've got to pay attention to the numbers.

[@brunsnick]

Very difficult to get much core performance out of 10-11lb. 👍🏻

[@tinarhoades3178]

@@brunsnick Yes, but we lightweights (5'0" and 98 lbs.) are kind of stuck with them. I currently use an 11lb. ball and have been working out to move up to a 12 lb. Having broken my wrist a few years back, the 12 is just not as comfortable as the 11 lb. ball.

[@marymckenna5524]

@@tinarhoades3178 I use a Flexbar Theraband to increase strength in hands, and forearms.

[@joeside3549]

I have a recent baseball injury and have had to drop weight, from 15 to 14, old rhinopro to the new teal rhinopro, Yes, age catches up, I’m a bit older than you, thank you for showing us there are many more fun years bowling 👍

[@michealpatrick1739]

I use a 13 lb. Columbia 300 deep freeze. Works good for me!!

[@xiaolee979]

I started with a 13lb ball when coming back after everything had been shutdown for covid. Definitely threw the 9 into the 10 pin a few times. Had the ball deflect into the 10 on light hits also. They do seem to hook more so my angles got steep at times.

[@coopergates9680]

8:32 The head pin, jiggling sideways along the deck, (nicks) the 9. Sweet break and might have happened with a heavier orb

[@markkonopatzki5097]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally someone made a video featuring light weight balls & their weight blocks. I'm personally down to 13# because of the lockdown & 2 injuries but still love to bowl. Still hovering around 200 but striking plenty. My issues are only with off hits, splits & missing 10's.

[@markkonopatzki5097]

Because of that informative video I'm going to be drilling Brunswick balls again instead of only SPI equipment & I buy lots of bowling balls.

[@ObjectiveEthics]

​@@markkonopatzki5097I am very happy with my Hammer arsenal all 12lb due to an elbow injury. Scorpion Hybrid, Scorpion Sting, Web Pearl and just ordered a Web Solid. I am new to bowling but have been able to post a 273 and 265 with a 186 avg using that arsenal. Good luck on the lanes 👍

[@XenoGuru]

3:58. Nuff said right there. I bowl with a lot of seniors in my Texas 9 pin league. They can make those lighter balls work great.

[@mikehessbowling8950]

Due to health and injuries, I have had to switch hands to lefty and throw 12# ... averaging 175, down from 220 as a healthy righty throwing 14#

[@brunsnick]

175 is still great with the opposite hand. It’ll take some time! 👏

[@mikehessbowling8950]

After watching your video on the Axe, I drilled 2, one at box and the second one stronger and 2000 surface. Keep up the great informative videos!

[@kellydavis4954]

i switched to 12 pound ball from 14 after arthritis ruined my fingers and can still keep bowling, i found 12 pounds to be much easier to control

[@brunsnick]

Absolutely right.

[@GCare100]

And they say a heavier ball is suppose to be easier to control but however for me since I have a relaxed release 12 pounds works for me and I have no injuries. Weight of a ball makes no difference in your bowling scores. I outbowl bowlers using 15 pound with a 12 pounder.

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video talk tech bowling bowling ball Brunsnick

[@lonestarpatriot876]

I switched from #14 to #12 due to an injury and my average jumped from 188 to 213. I throw nothing but Motiv balls with my most recent add to my arsenal being the Venom Shock EXJ. I have seen zero negative impact. Interestingly, I also saw zero negative impact when I switched from #15 to #14 before switching to #12. I think far too many people get caught up in their "beliefs" rather than reality when it comes to this subject.

[@adamturnsheel]

when's the last time you had that many revs?

[@brunsnick]

15 years ago soft 🤣

[@hetcarnavalsbeest]

Fantastic video. Only this week I bought the sublime 12 pounds and I can tell you that I can give more REVS than my old 15 pounds. And that this is a very good solution. I regularly throw nice pocket strikes like a baby. Thanks for the explanation Nick. Love from Holland.

[@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS]

I bought a Storm Green and black Tropical Surge. Came from eBay as new other, was sold as 15 and was 13lb. I drilled it and rolled it and it was Amazing. Such high RG and low Diff, but I could throw between 4th and 5th arrow. Bowled a 212 with nit and I am a 175 avg bowler. My highest game Realized it was 13lb after I grabbed a different ball and was wondering why it felt weird and rolled slower, iot was 15... I weighed them and saw for sure. Drilled weighs 13lb 0 oz and 15lb 1 oz. No thumb bowler.... Im not running out to buy 13lb balls now, but it still hits great, but I did buy a few 14lb balls for the higher RG realizing I like that better sometimes 14lb Collision has the best core specs of all the weight options IMO Grabbed a vapor Zone Hybrid in 14lb So anyway 2 hander with rev dominance a lighter ball with higher RG is useful when I am hooking too early/much

[@davidbeckwith2403]

Interesting and informative. Goid job. My wife does well with an 11 lb. Ball.

[@machinethesun9243]

A 70 year old woman gave me her 15 pound ball today, and I noticed much more carry bowling with her ball than any of my 14 pound balls. In fact shitty shots even struck when I feel like I have to be perfect with my 14 pound balls that deflect too much. I'm a woman in my 50's and I'm thinking of going up to 15.

[@brunsnick]

Always use the heaviest weight you can physically handle. 👍🏻 As you go lighter, you’ll need to create enough entry angle to strike consistently.

[@shadowthagreat]

I recently stepped down a few months ago to 14lbs and see just a slight difference in carry compared to throwing 15lbs... Difference I see is I leave more solid 9s, but as Nick said with a lighter weight you just have to create more entry angle which gives you more room to go high and still flush with slight deflection.

[@remoevans7847]

I dropped from 14 to 13 and ball companies since last year and my average went up 20 sticks.

[@marymckenna5524]

I am a 120 lb senior beginner bowler who started at 8 lbs. Been working out and slowly increasing ball weight one pound at a time. Last week I started to throw 11 lbs and my scores improved immediately over my 10 lb ball. Speed at 11 lbs did not slow down. Now that I know a 12 lb ball can have performance close to a 15, I will keep working on strength and technique. Thanks for the motivation!

[@props651]

Just started bowling 6 months ago. I throw a couple 13lb balls. ( Hammer Raw and Track Paragon solid). Just ordered a 14lb, give it a try and see if my forearm can handle it. I know how to throw and adjust with my current balls. It'd be interesting to throw the new ball.

[@All4YAH]

I found my 12 lb rubber ball Brunswick(Fireball) 7 years ago that was on the racks with the house balls at my league bowling alley and have been using it since. I bought it for 5$. Helped my team win the championship that season using that ball. After that I bought a used 70$ used ball thinking i would be better with a real bowling ball which didn’t fit my style(straight/old school+no thumb). Then my gf bought me a $300+ 16lb bowling ball(Motiv Chronic Paranoia) and that ball was real hard to control. Then last year I bought belmo’s Fate(15 lb) for 60$ and I love it but I need more practice with it and need to use lower grit on it for better control. But just two weeks ago I finally stopped switching back and forth between games and admitted that my 12lb rubber ball is my main ball and not just my spare ball. For the past 2weeks I have gotten 600+ series and feel like I can get my first 300 game soon with this 12 lb rubber ball lol 😅 who woulda thunk🤷‍♂️. I’m planning to get the Storm 13lb iQ 78/U next then the 13lb Teal Pro Rhino after that. they both seem to be more my down my alley.😁 so for everyone who thinks you need a fancy/new expensive ball, know this, it’s not the equipment that makes perfect, it’s your technique that matters and once you find your perfect technique you can find the right equipment for your next level of mastering your own bowling style. Oh i also kept switching back and forth styles from two handed to reverse curve and one handed(no👍). Good luck on finding your right ball

[@rogerredford6242]

It's a macho thing. If you want to impress do pushups. I have a 12-13-14 in my bag and they all work. I go to the 12-13 on the third game because my arm starts to get tired and I have more contol. Great video

[@baaadddmannn]

Nick nice to see you do this comparison and add information, I just dropped to 14 pound recently, think I will beat you to 12 pound, lol, consider myself fortunate 75 years young, did notice I cannot control wrist position at bottom of swing with the 15 pound, with 14 lb still have that control. Thanks for all you do to educate and inform the bowling community and keep bowlers of all ages, IN THE GAME, waiting to watch what you come up next......... how about trick shot competition , between legs, opposite hand, thru a chair, on the wrong foot, 2 handed for one handers[vice versa] , add in different weight balls, your one with creative mind you can certainly improve on my idea and list.

[@brunsnick]

Thank you!

[@MrBalderas05]

Great information. I just bought my son a 12lb high end ball and I am interested in ball reaction and pin action. Thanks!

[@garybryant19]

I bowl with a 13lb Phaze 2 a 13lb Hustle Camo. I have 14lb ball that I can still handle if my hand placement is comfortable and loose otherwise there’s slight pain from arthritis in my right hand. I’m 58yrs old and love bowling.

[@rousefire]

After blowing my bicep out for the 2nd time, doctor told me to go down to 12 lbs. Ordered one today. Great to see this vid.

[@Potts2700]

The 12 LBS Igniter Cover is INSANE!!!! It DRIVES like a MAC TRUCK!!!!

[@cautiousoptimist1926]

I tried this years ago with a 13lb ball. I was frustrated with my heavier ball due to poor carry; 4/9s or anything on the back row after solid pocket hits. My carry greatly improved with the lighter ball. However, when I threw the ball badly I might leave a solid 5 pin; easy to pick up but hard on the ego.😊

[@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan]

I got that 12 pound Ebonite Puma I use sometimes. How you feel about the new Blue Hammer NU announcement?

[@brunsnick]

Absolutely love it! Can’t wait to shoot the video this weekend!

[@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan]

@@brunsnick I will be looking forward to see it.

[@remington1439]

3:06 Nick I noticed that you didn’t have a messenger like you always have, is that because of the weight of a 12 lb. 5:51 oh crap man I haven’t seen that spare in a long time. 10:38 OMG dude Nick you got that 12 to all the way to the 4 board and it looked actually good.

[@mrkttrdr2919]

Fun to c, at 71 I throw a 12 lb hammer raw pearl as a lefty and strike pretty good with it, fun to increase the revs like u said😮

[@TheWildwoodPicker]

The day is here for me... I'm 55, have arthritis, and had to drop to a 12lb now. I throw the Teal Rhino Pro and I absolutely love that bowling ball, and also have the Dark Web Hybrid, haven't tried that one yet, getting it drilled on Firday. I'm also going to venture out and try some of the Storm Balls, Phaze II Solid Reactive, Hy-Road Hybrid Reactive, IQ Tour Ruby Pearl Reactive, and Urethane Pitch Black... Which Urethane ball does Brunswick make, and which Pearl Reactive from Brunswick/Hammer would you recomend? I like Brunswick and Storm/Roto Grip balls and wouldn't mind having all the converstocks from each vendor on hand. I would go Brunswick Hybrid, but all I see are Asym Hybrids from Brunswick... I want to stick with Sym balls because I like the nice smooth arch instead of the quick flip hook down lane.

[@cameronmorgan0203]

Only word that mainly comes to mind with a light ball is “DEFLECTION” 😂. Depends on how much oil is on the lanes though too

[@deanwmmumbleau953]

I’m 75 and I went from a 15 pound Hammer Red Pearl urethane to a 12 pound DV8 VERGE because of several physical issues. I have a lot more control with the 12 pound ball, and consistently scoring around 150 to 165. With the lighter ball I find it has less drive through so I’ve had to step up my game on spares

[@cptmiche]

I had a very bad wrist injury that forced me down to a 10 and then 12lb ball. I can say with absolute certainty, a sub 14lb ball is inferior in terms of carry. from 15 down to 14, there's not much of a difference. But from 14 to 13, there's a very tangible loss of performance.

[@rickdavis8410]

Perfect timing as I’m considering dropping to 13 or 12.

[@jackprescott2966]

Thank you Nick! Love your videos!! 66yr old male, i bowl league and as many tournaments as i can. THS/Sport. I throw 15lb Brunswick brands ….but will be having hip surgery (ies), hopefully first one in week or two?? My thoughts have been, initially dropping to 13lb (maybe staying there??) after watching Raw solid video and this one, I have better idea what light wts might look like on the lane. Knew that cores were going to be different, but what about motion, hitting power…?? Thanks may end up at 13?? my ball speed might be helped, and hopefully easier on new hips. Subscribed! Thanks again JP

[@dubl59zy]

When I was, maybe, 15, I was exasperated by the way I was bowling so for my last game I grabbed the lightest ball in the bowling center, put my two fingers in the drilled holes and put my thumb on the outside of the ball itself, and threw it dead straight at the pins as absolutely fast as I could. It ended up being one of the very few (3) 200 games of my life.

[@RobertWegley]

About 22 years ago, due to tendonitis, I dropped from 16 to 13 pounds. Here is what I found. As long as there is good backend, performance is fine. I was able to shoot a 300 in league and also won the Chicago Metropolitan Bowling Association Scratch Singles Title with I think was 768. To show how dry the lanes were for the CMBA title my practice shot, I lined up at fourth arrow and picked off three in the left hand corner. I moved in to fifth arrow and launched the ball the rest of the match. If I were using my regular weight I probably wouldn’t have even cashed.

[@dalechrist5580]

Could you do a comparison between 15 and 12lbs?

[@BrunsBrent]

12# and blowing racks like that? Sheeeeesh

[@c2g1980]

I throw messengers with my 12lb ball and 13lb ball when I use them. Bowled a 255 with my 13lb ball the other day and a 247 with my 12lber

[@darthmaul0851]

I’m 66 and bowling in my first league sine 2 knee replacements and left ankle reconstruction. Slide foot. A friend gave me a 13lb Radical Sneak Attack. I like the lighter weight. For me it seams to as hard as when I was rolling 15lbs. I will probably work my way back to 14lb. Thanks for this video.

[@Kurobuta35]

just curious why your two fingers holes are not drilled evenly.. (side by side).. it looks like your middle finger is place further out than your ring finger. Is this layout common? if so, what would you call this layout? thanks

[@brunsnick]

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[@Bowlstan]

Nick going up in weight since the spinner video. Keep the gains coming.

[@brunsnick]

🤣💪🏻

[@gbt-s5f]

懐かしいボール！ですね。 初代のPUMA２代目はよく活躍してくれました。

[@dp92492]

One of my favorite Traber Dave stories is he punched like a 12lb Nitro (green one i believe) before a tournament, and shot 300 with it in the pro am. Funny thing was, he brought it to league the next week. this was about 5 or 6 years ago. That was an amusing night. Lol

[@DonDon-ou7jt]

Im just beggining bowler, and use a 14 lb ball which i have a hard time controlling. Should i buy a lighter ball 12lb? And try the 14 later? Or just focus on my 14lb?

[@brunsnick]

Is the 14lb ball fit for your hand?

[@DonDon-ou7jt]

@@brunsnick yes its drilled to my hand: columbia 300 reaction arc and roto grip super streak. I bought it and the pro shop said it is both old stock balls

[@butchcoolidge3261]

Wow 😯. So I will be able to continue bowling, and fart anytime I want to and nobody will hear 😂.

[@brunsnick]

Win win.

[@LiamGlover-h9u]

On some beginner balls there is actually a higher diff in the 12 lb to the 15, hammer raw has a 12lb diff of 40 and a 15 of 38 and a 16 of 33

[@lt8473]

I had a 15 pound Super Nova didn’t like it. Came across a 14 pound super nova and it’s my favorite ball. The difference in the 2 is crazy to me. My avg went up by 17.

[@EviLNox8]

I have to switch to left handed due to an injury and I'm getting a 12 pound purple hammer to use until my right arm recovers. I hope i made a good choice.

[@craigschray4486]

I'm 57, good shape, but have had the same 10lb hammer all my life. My son and I have been bowling together much more of late and I'm interested in jumping up in ball weight. What do you recommend for me as a left handed bowler?

[@brunsnick]

10lb is a bit too light. If you want to increase your average, I’d suggest 14.

[@craigschray4486]

@@brunsnick thank you so much

[@AlexOliveros-ks5cg]

I dont know what "differential" means. Can you explain?

[@xDrGeek]

I have been playing around alot with weight as of late as I am getting back into league and bowling since stopping around 2011...(Bought prob 6 balls since June, now its the end of October..) I started with 15, dropped to 12.. LOVED the look out of the 12 with out the pain.. however I am having a hard time slowing down to let the cover stock work for me, seems like a lot less hook (esp with my low rev rate) as I am in 17+mph range as high as 19 sometimes if there is a lot of oil with 12lbs. went to 14 not bad.. I just like knowing I have the same design core..YES, I know I am over thinking it, however I *think* manufactures should lower the price for sub 14lb balls using generic cores, as the R&D had already been done and you are just recycling the same core for millionth time.. am I wrong?

[@brunsnick]

Yes kind of, but that’s okay. It’s costs no less in time or materials to produce a 12lb vs 15lb. The coverstock is the most expensive part of the ball and that is where the majority of hook and technology is.

[@Itsjustvon1027]

I was using 14 it really wears me out and it’s hard for me to be consistent I’m not the biggest or strongest

[@michaelgunnell5869]

I agree it completely worn me out. Im not really consistent. I used to be very consistent with my 12lbs. I don’t know what to do. I’m so confused should I go back to 12lbs or stay with 14lbs as some of my friends suggested heavier lbs will have better strike ratio. I don’t know what to do now.

[@bderry9948]

what rg and differential numbers shpold you look for in a 13 pound ball.

[@brunsnick]

Depends on the ball, but out of a high end ball .040 differential at least. RGs vary, not as important as total differential.

[@wutang_bing8090]

I got a 12lb vintage phantom and I love it

[@larrylacroix3944]

Interesting 👍👍

[@scupking]

Bowled my first 300 game back in 1999 at the age of 16 with a 14lb light bulb ball.

[@BowlersRant]

I need to try this with no thumb 🐉

[@dadbod4life]

Thats a nice looking ball. Visually I love it.

[@GRiMS2K]

Im a high rev speed 1handed player, i play 16pounds!

[@davidtaranto9084]

That puma amazing. Mine are 15 and 16. Love that ball tho

[@xXundyinqslumberXx]

Even though I've gone up in weight (15lbs), my current high game was shot with 13lb DV8 Poison Solid, which is funny.

[@brandonleonard6987]

Hmmm. You convinced me to drop my ball weight, lol.

[@brunsnick]

What are you using now?

[@brandonleonard6987]

@@brunsnick lol, I'm just kidding... You were killing it!!! I do think some deflection can help after watching the Helicopter video. I'm super speed dominant so I'll stick with my 15s. Let me know when you do switch though because we are the same age (podcast reference) so it will be time for me too. Great video, thanks for following up, I really appreciate it!

[@SirJoelsuf1]

It's been established over the last half decade or so that 14lbs is optimal. Make sure your arsenal is 14lbs if you can, 15lbs if you must. Don't know why they even make 16lb stuff. ESPECIALLY if you are speed dominant as you describe. Heavier equipment will actually cause MORE deflection for a speed dominant bowler because you'll have the impression that you can get away with having even lower RPMs and throw it even harder.

[@Slo2Roll]

Another plus more speed and more revs allows for balls with more surface.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

I disagree with what you said about the reason for not putting the same core into a 15 pound ball versus a 12 pounder. A manufacturer doesn’t have to make the core less dense, because there are three, not two, components that can be tweaked in order to lower the weight of the ball. The coverstock, for all intents and purposes, cannot be made lighter, but the material between the coverstock and the core certainly can be made less dense. That is what one manufacturer does, while using the same core in their 12 pound balls as their heavier ones. On this brand the thick white layer between the cover and the core is much softer and less dense on the twelve pound balls than the fifteens and sixteens. I drill the balls from this company for myself, and I can attest that the middle layer on their balls drills and sands much easier than the cover and the core. In fact, when drilling this company’s balls I have to be very careful and feed the bit very slowly because the holes might drift off center when the bit passes through the intermediate layer into the denser core. This company makes fine balls, and another bonus for me is that as of this writing their balls are made in the USA. Maybe you don’t know that you are passing on misleading information, but I will tell you that at least one ball company puts the exact same core in all their products from twelve to sixteen pounds. That is why, when I decided to buy a urethane ball I chose one of theirs instead of the purple pearl urethane that everyone has been gushing about for the last few years. And my results indicate that I made the right choice. I’m not affiliated with any ball manufacturer. All I care about is performance and what best fits my game. I think a lot of manufacturers are putting generic cores in their lighter balls strictly as a cost-cutting measure. That’s okay by me, except if they’re going to cut corners on the core they should charge less for the lighter balls. But they don’t. That’s why I prefer to spend my money on the American-made balls with the top- notch components in all their balls, regardless whether they weigh twelve or sixteen pounds.

[@brunsnick]

It’s not the same core. Not possible, even with changing density of the outer. But if it works for you, great. 👍🏻

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

@@brunsnick That’s so self-evident that I didn’t even mention it in my comment. But the fact is that most weight reduction occurs in the gray or white layer between the cover and the core. My complaint is with companies that put in a generic core that looks like a little rugby ball and charge the same price as for the heavier balls. To me that is overcharging. Again, I’m not affiliated with any brand but my preferred brand makes the effort to engineer high performance cores for their lighter stuff and then I don’t mind paying the price. They also sand some of their shinier stuff to 5500 instead of cutting corners by sanding to 1000 and using polish. The difference in performance has to be experienced to be believed.

[@dylanclay2741]

My highest game ever is a 280 with a 12lb storm tropical surge. Highest with 15 only 213

[@Koeni_Nick13]

Oddly enough I once shot 205 with an 8lb columbia 300 scout

[@TheWildwoodPicker]

Why doesn't Brunswick make a Sym Hybrid, all I see are Asym Hybrids. I think someone over there at Brunswick needs to go back to the drawing board and start making some Sym Hybrid please. I guess I'll have to add the Hammer Dark Web Hybrid to my Brunswick Arsenal until Brunswick decides to make a Sym Hybrid.

[@brunsnick]

Hazmat, Verge Hybrid, Trouble Maker, GB4 Hybrid, Scorpion Low Flare, Dark Web Hybrid, RAW Hammer Hybrid… there’s 7 current in the line. How many more do you need? 🙄

[@TheWildwoodPicker]

@@brunsnick Specifically Brunswick balls. I’m just talking about the ones that carry the Brunswick name, not Hammer, GB4 etc. Just Brunswick by name that is not Asymmetric.

[@ripvanrevs]

You should have throbot thrash a 12 lb at 20 mph with 500 revs

[@brunsnick]

Might break lol jk

[@Potts2700]

If your using 12 lbs use. Lane Shine Solids!!! YOU get Extra Back end angle from the lighter weight. YOU dont need a Pearl to give you double the angle.

[@ChrisDutton-eh9wx]

Makes sense on the solid over a pearl. How about Symmetrical or Asym for a solid 12lb?

[@billzwit4064]

Do some string pin setters or doesn’t Brunswick think they are legit.

[@brunsnick]

Brunswick makes string pin. When we get them in house I shall demo them.

[@Flamingpins]

We have a very good player around here that uses 12 due to a medical condition

[@ripvanrevs]

Who you calling Grandpa?? 😄😄 I'm 58 and can still throw one hand no thumb with over 400 revs. I'm sure my speed is at least 9 mph!!

[@brunsnick]

Beast. 💪🏻

[@jeremyramberger5198]

I use 12 lb thanks

[@ham4fun]

i bowl with a 13 or 14 lbs ball during leagues, usually starting with the 13 lbs for the first game

[@GCare100]

Weight of the ball makes no difference to your scores! It’s all about your release and your style. I just bowled a 662 series with a 12 pound ball.

[@CAMPFIRESKY]

A video for "beginners" would have been great. You were talking Greek to me and it did not help.

[@cameronmorgan0203]

Thank God my 15 pound ball doesn’t hit like that 💯😬🤣

[@bowlingxp8345]

So the title is misleading. Not cool.

[@brunsnick]

Not at all.

[@bowlingxp8345]

@@brunsnick There is nothing in the video that advocates that lighter cores are generally speaking "better for our game". The only case they are, is is when you mention old age or injury. But the title is a blankett statement. (thus clickbait) In fact you mentioned a couple of things that make generic light weight cores WORSE for our game. So maybe i am missing something, please explain, i want to know if i am wrong.

[@brunsnick]

@@bowlingxp8345 The comparison is generic light weight cores vs. what other companies make in 12-13lb. It's not a comparison of heavier cores that come in 14-16lb vs their 12lb counterparts.

[@bowlingxp8345]

@@brunsnick I agree. You just explained why the title is misleading. :) You make good videos, so no need for such titles. :)

[@brunsnick]

Ooooooooook

[@BNatoAk]

Ya... NO. They are not! Pros start doing that shit i might buy in 😂

[@thissuggs4451]

GREAT video!!! Thanks for taking the time to address smaller weighted balls. 🎳