Why Germany’s AfD is in Decline

[@wiktorjachyra1869]

Amazes me how in Europe new party are formed regularly and get traction instantly when there’s dissatisfaction……that would be a miracle in America

[@Adski975]

It would be just as possible in the US, the problem is the winner-take-all electotal college system you have in place instead of a proportional parliamentary system. Until that system is put in place, a third party is basically never going to win. Even if Ross Perot won in 1992 and '96, the reform party likely would've collapsed one or two elections later, or it would replace either the republican or democrat party, returning to the two parties.

[@tomrogue13]

Also it's easier to run within a party in a primary than to firm a new party to challenge the establishment. The TEA party movement in the 2010 election and Bernie Sanders in 2016/20 for 2 examples

[@chudchadanstud]

Because Americans have been conditioned to win battles not wars. Basically they tend to think x party winning x year is the end of the world. There is no long term outlook. You should vote for the party you believe will win in 12 years not the one that will win the next election.

[@thechosenone1533]

In the US these things usually happen within the existing parties. Trump and AOC emerged within the existing parties in the US but in Europe they would have formed their own parties.

[@Nikioko]

It is all thanks to Putin's hybrid war against the Western world. His disinformation on the internet makes right-wing parties strong in Europe. And without his help, the US would never have an idiot like Trump as president.

[@Cund]

Aged horribly

[@davethebarbarian4419]

I will just say this: In Portugal, Chega also peaked in the polls 2-3 months before the election and then started to decline. The end result was that they got a halfway result, right in midway point between their maximum and minimum polling.

[@FaithfulOfBrigantia]

Exactly. It's a demoralization psy-ops

[@mesa9724]

@@FaithfulOfBrigantiawhich works the first time. In the second time the party is legitimized, polls and media are delegitimized.

[@joaofranciscopereira6655]

@@mesa9724nao é assim tão simples, eles (felizmente ou infelizmente, não vou debater isso) ainda podem ganhar força dependendo do que acontecer neste mandato

[@ShayNoMore1]

This is false, they got their peak result of 18% Only 1 poll were peaking them at 21% Msot were giving 15% or 16%

[@Encovelicus]

@@FaithfulOfBrigantiayep

[@ops3892]

this aged like milk

[@tbk2010]

If 79% of germans think protests against the AfD are good, and the AfD at one point had up to 22% voting intention, that suggests at least some potential AfD voters are also for the protests. Which isn't a contradictory position, but still a bit amusing.

[@Kappa-go2zo]

Your forget about non-voters that like the protest (and the obvious thing that polls aren't representative), and yes that is contradictory that they, in your mind, support protest but still vote for them

[@scifino1]

@@Kappa-go2zoNo, it really is not contradictory. There are some people who (used to) consider the AfD a non-extremist right-wing party, and the protests are against rightwing extremism within parties like AfD and CDU. It really is not contradictory for these people who want the AfD to be a non-extremist right-wing party to protest against right-wing extremism within their ranks.

[@giantWario]

@@Kappa-go2zo Some people fully support protest in general even when they're against things that they personally like. It's not contradictory at all, it's just called supporting free speech.

[@berndkittler6217]

Diese Proteste gegen die AFD sind FAKE von Altparteimitglieder die aus ganz Deutschland zu verschiedenen veranstaltungen reisen , Viedeos werden manipuliert damit es nach mehr aussieht . Das sind Deutsche Altpartein die angst um ihre MACHT haben

[@raymondlaurence980]

What is your point?

[@lamalama9717]

Seems their growth might only be halted by the splits on the Right rather than any appeal of the Left.

[@MrTomtomtest]

Well yeah. In most modern countries people are aging, hence voting more & more to the right. What a lot of commentators seem to be missing. Only in countries were the right is completely useless (UK) is the Left making a comeback pretty much.... And probably gonna be temporary.

[@nntflow7058]

The direct funding from Russia is drying up.

[@hermes7587]

The alternative to the "Alternative for Moscow" isn´t the Left (which is eaqually crazy just with a different flavor) but the center of the political spectrum. The vast majority of Germans ist neither "left" or "right" but moderate. The "Alternative for Moscow" has become more and more radical in their hatred for a free and democratic society and the people have not only noticed it but have also clear that the vast majority does want these traitors. Earlier this years there had been HUGW ralleys AGAINST these right wing populist throughout the country.

[@freneticness6927]

​@@nntflow7058Because money changes votes at all.

[@pred4507]

I think they are still near their peak, the poor polls are just a effect of stigmatization. The protests did lead to an underrepresentation of real voting potential in the polls.

[@tepesobrejac4360]

Could you make a video about Romania's political landscape before the 2024 European and local elections (which will take place on the same date)? A LOT has been happening recently. A grand-alliance between Romania's two largest parties, an ad-hoc alliance of opposition liberals and conservatives and two right-wing populist parties have formed, competing for a victory. An international court-rulling in Romania's favour on a controversial mining project, was allegedly used by the government parties to manipulate the stock market in Toronto and the Bucharest's mayor's office is just ending a shutdown because one of the parties in the previously mentioned grand coalition was blocking the vote on a budget, allegedly to sabotage the incumbent mayor, supported by the previously mentioned liberal-conservative alliance.

[@DomnulDarius]

Fr

[@Randomstuffs261]

ROMANIA STRONG!

[@rixorobert]

I would hardly call USR or Reper liberal-conservative. They are economically right-wing but definently socially progressive

[@tepesobrejac4360]

@@rixorobert USR is in an alliance with PMP and FD, which are conservative.

[@awesomealex001]

+1 Would love to see more videos about my neighbor, as Ukrainian

[@berlindude75]

3:49 "Sending them to a 'model state' in [North] Africa" should ring a bell with Brits...

[@riccardodececco4404]

Israel???

[@mrvwbug4423]

I'm trying to figure out where there's a model state in North Africa haha. Plus Germany has a very large population of Iranian immigrants, they're not exactly going to fit in in North Africa and they'd be killed as traitors if they were sent back to Iran.

[@EbonySaints]

​@@riccardodececco4404Israel is in the Levant/Asia, not Africa.

[@EbonySaints]

​@@mrvwbug4423They could just pretend that France is African and send them there. Though considering how overtly proud both cultures can be, there would be either a complete disaster from them going on competing LARPs about whose empire was greater, or a complete disaster where we see Iranian horse archers wielding baguettes and complaining about Rome. Fun Fact: Farsi has more loanwords from French than English.

[@tonymcgray9599]

another Israel Palestine conflict

[@killickr]

Is the AfD really in decline, or just that, with all the anti-AfD demonstrations, less people are prepared to say to the pollsters that they would vote AfD?

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

Germany has a history of former NSDAP members launching far right parties trying to start a Fourth Reich since the 1970s, and it's unpopular. These voters mostly just want to stop immigration from those who don't share their values.

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

Also, this scandal does involve neonazis. TLDR probably didn't mention to avoid triggering the algorithm which excludes videos about Nazism from recommendations.

[@wvvwwvwvv]

@@DrVictorVasconcelos safer than the alternative

[@cia5649]

Probably more because the scandal tainted the party more than it already was outside the former east Germany they seem to be more of a protest party when your own party isn’t doing a good job

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

​@@wvvwwvwvv Do you mind spelling out what you mean?

[@lemmyboy4107]

2:00 to clarify, the greens are NOT down compared to last elections. They are constant with their votes. This is important because its the only party of the 3 that seems to satisfy its voters.

[@highqualityorangejuice420]

Or there's no Alternative for it idk

[@Argent_99]

Looking at the 3 year graph in the video, the greens are down 10% from their peak and support seems to swap back and forth with the SPD, with the more recent gradual decline of both parties correlating with the rise of the AfD numbers. Conversely, the only party that has achieved a relative amount of stability of late is the CDU/CSU, which seems to be at their peak numbers atm (which is frankly a bit mind-boggling, but as I told my German friends, pretty soon your parliament will be the new Italy…)

[@lemmyboy4107]

@@Argent_99 Can you read? If yes then please read my comment again. They are constant with their VOTES, ofcourse they have up and downs in polling but considering the track record of polls you shouldnt take that as a measurement. What stands is the the greens as only party in the goverment seems to satisfy their voters.

[@rodmarker2071]

a minority of eco facists who want us all to live in in mysery

[@mitchyoung93]

@lemmyboy4107 Mass immigration is the worst thing for the local environment and also contributes to global warming (all those immigrants from the global south are going to burn a lot more fossil fuels in Germany to keep warm). The 'Greens' are fake.

[@christopherlittle4725]

The AFD is NOT in decline. LOL

[@the_pinkerton]

It is

[@ece2178]

​@@the_pinkerton record wins in Europe, keep coping

[@the_pinkerton]

@@ece2178 they are still doing worse in polls then they used to a few months ago

[@slendii366]

⁠@@ece2178look at their national polls. EU is irrelevant here.

[@American-Orthodox-Christian]

@@the_pinkertonno it’s not look at the results from a couple days ago

[@prism560]

right wing astrian in germany?!? oh god not again!!!

[@mohamedjear8917]

Dont tell me he is an "art enthusiast" as well !!! 💀💀💀

[@RationalistMH]

All art schools should immediately increase their acceptance rates!

[@arnewengertsmann9111]

I think this time the leaders are swiss and German. Not sure, if that is better, but with a swiss leader it will be much slower at least.^^

[@philipprinkens4659]

no worries he already got remigrated out of germany

[@BiWesCrew]

All artschools should be closed. good Art can't be taught it needs grassroots of discontent to be of relevance. and the chosen techniques or Art forms usually are already chosen by artists. It would be more helpful for artist to pick up the lowest work positions available in the respektive country of Residence so the artist in the making has a solid education on inequalities. That should be all the education needed to have a go.

[@mrsomeone846]

Because they were never going to be the largest party… Opposition parties always do better in polls during bad times.

[@berndkittler6217]

Sie werden beste Partei werden , wir Deutsche haben eine lange Zündschnur und die ist nun abgebrannt

[@paul1979uk2000]

Sometimes true, but radical parties rarely do good unless the population at large become more radicalised, which is unlikely. A lot of it with popularise parties is mostly a protest vote because people are not happy with how the established parties are dealing with things, the problem for the popularise movement, that isn't any real power for them, because chances are, if they pushed some of their radical agendas, they would become very unpopular with the majority of the population, hence why a lot of these radical parties when getting close to power or in power, end up toning things down to appeal to a lot more people, in a sense, they become far more moderate and not a threat, apart from them being a threat to the established parties, we are seeing this across Europe and that's blurring the lines on which are radical and which are moderate.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@paul1979uk2000 Maybe a better explanation is that they are not radical and simply waiting on ways to just get in the seats to enact policy? The biggest obstacle is not the people, but the permanent polithical class which remains in even when it is "removed" by voters. Milei is trying to reduce the bloat in Argentina for exactly that reason, for instance.

[@ilhamrj2599]

not true at least for country with two major party system … swinging left and right is quite common though 😂.

[@afrules9097]

the "bad times" fall out of the sky? Thats a result of bad politics by the ruling parties.

[@getnohappy]

Right-wing parties thrive in general dissatisfaction, but they need to move quickly and take the establishment by surprise. Because the longer they're a realistic contender, the less they can just rely on complaining from the side and the less they can hide from scrutiny. AfD missed it's chance for an electoral coup.

[@kingdomofbird8174]

They lost the chance when they ousted Bernd Lücke, he was more Moderate than the people who eventually come to support the party, he could've made a coalition with the CDU if he stayed, perhaps even winni an election

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

Exactly. It's like MAGA, they just have nothing relevant to say. Nothing on anything normal everyday Americans care about. Showers, wind farms, dishwashers, white replacement, lower taxes for rich people, trump's witch hunts. Very proud of my state where the AfD doesn't hold a single seat.

[@mrvwbug4423]

@@kingdomofbird8174Not when AfD members keep getting outed as neo-Nazis.

[@bedri1]

AFD is a serious contender!

[@lemmyboy4107]

​@@bedri1For banning yes nothing else

[@edsiles4297]

Former communist countries seem to always wind up as fertile ground for far-right politics ...

[@bazookaman1353]

Good.

[@gargoyle7863]

When one ideology goes "Nation" is a convenient ideology to fill the gap.

[@234zuscoutjango9]

Not necessarily, more like fertile groukd for extremist politics in general. Because the left Party (socialists) is also the strongest in the east

[@weiserwolf580]

because the communists and the far-right are one and the same, they have the same policies, the same political language, and the same persecuted minorities (the rich, people of color, LGBTQ, Muslims, Asians, foreigners in general) in short, the only thing that has changed is the name, and the population of the former Soviet colonies, love them because it is a known thing, familiar, something indigenous, that is, the same poisonous words dressed in honey that we have heard before from the Soviets

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

That is because they have already experienced socialism. No need to try it again.

[@jonahovermars7071]

This didn't age well

[@joshuawells835]

My father told me a joke from a meme a while back - In Germany, what we in the US call "the Far Right" is called "Why grandpa lives in Argentina."

[@kingofhearts3185]

That's a very good joke, I'll tell my (not German) Argentine uncle. He loves these sorts of jokes.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Given how often AfD members get caught under the totalitarian propaganda law for having Nazi propaganda/memrobilia on display. The "remigration" meeting just showed for all to see who AfD really are. CDU may be an extremely boring party, but they are hands down probably the best center-right party in the world in terms of actually sticking to center-right positions and policy.

[@xxklesx1]

Thats a chliche. The most old n. went to chile and not to Argentina 😅

[@robsch21]

It’s actually a joke from a SNL sketch 😂

[@davibs4685]

Here in Brazil it’s the Same, people brag their german ancestry but they don't know why their ancestor came 💀

[@Rakeshyadav-qf9ss]

For the sake of humanity,I request art schools all over the world to accept everyone ASAP.

[@pickleism253]

What if the art school rejected Hitler in the first place because time travelers kept asking to approve him

[@Doyourbest4245]

Stfu. My god, that joke is so tired.

[@bloodwargaming3662]

😂

[@grrumakemeangry]

@@bloodwargaming3662damn drx fan😊

[@moosesandmeese969]

That wouldn't be fair to art schools who would have to accept bad artists.

[@kolakpatolik1857]

It reached its peak, because DDR doesn't grow up in population.

[@oooshafiqooo]

wait that actually makes sense!

[@elomial724]

No idiot. AfD was gaining more % in the west. The main reason for this is the creation of BSW and the stabilisation of support

[@close_all_tabs]

In German DDR = Deutsche Demokratische Republik In English GDR = German Democratic Republic In English DDR = Dance Dance Revolution ;)

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Frankfurt coporate world, near 100% Green and CDU voting ethnic Germans, would make a Brandenburg village look diverse.

[@markholland7322]

Agree: the states of Saxony, Thuringia and Saxony-Anhalt are overpopulated by nostalgic pensioners as well as a fair share of Russians - those who actually want to built a better life linstead of shooting the past was so much better than the present, many of those understand that the demographics work in their disadvantage and left

[@dannyarcher6370]

4% drop is not really anything to starting ringing the alarm bells over.

[@eineperson9849]

The mentioned meeting with Sellner was also attended by some politicians from the CDU, Christian Conservatives

[@laurenzwalter285]

no it's Not CDU it's "Werteunion" (union of values if you will) and they're not the Same. I dont want to défend cdu i hate them but its important

[@eineperson9849]

@@laurenzwalter285 well they did split off now but at the time the werteunion was still a part of the party. But I get yout point, there is a clewr distinction betweeen union und Werteunion

[@fidei829]

@@eineperson9849Yes, Werteunion still cares about Germany while CDU has sold out completely.

[@antonstoeckl3689]

Aa a German I tell you, you are WRONG! The decline of the AfD did only happen through a government sponsored NGO called Corrective. A meeting in Berlin has been attended form 4 members of the CDU and 3 members of the AfD party plus different non affiliated members to any political party like Prof. Vosgerau. The subject was how to return asylum seeker which have been not granted asylum status and must return anyway. The scandal was that CORRECTIVE lied about that the subject was mass deportation of asylum seeker even if they have a German passport. All MASS MEDIA eagerly reported about this lie and millions of people went to street demonstration against the AfD party. CORRECTIVE lost at the courts but this is in no way publicized from any media

[@VNRG1993]

also as a german, the post of corrective had to be changed and corrected (pun intended lol) cuz they lost a lawsuit cuz they blalantly lied on a lot of parts since they had no evidence for these claims, but ofc channel like this don't talk about it, just another left wing and woke agenda here

[@gundleyG]

You are just trying to sell a fairytail. Leave your bubble and read the news.

[@walther2492]

@@VNRG1993 lol No they didn't lost this law suit. In fact, they won on two of the three points in this lawsuit and only had to change a single sentence regarding a specific person. You are welcome to read this, as the verdict is publicly available: Higher Regional Court of Hamburg - 324 O 61/24

[@JamesL42]

@@gundleyG Ah yes, believe the mainstream media and not your own research, intuition and understanding. The party line of the NPC.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

​@@JamesL42but jaaaames, public information is so hard to find! I have like, open a web browser, push some buttons on a keyboard- it's too much!

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

No, the Christian conservatives should totally cooperate with the far right. In fact, I already have a name for prime minister: von Papen! I'm certain that won't cause any future problems.

[@elomial724]

CDU/CDU is centre-left you clown

[@felixsantosa3815]

Got me in the first half not gonna lie

[@bloodwargaming3662]

​@@felixsantosa3815Whats the joke here ?

[@Huuuuuuuuuuuu107]

@@bloodwargaming3662 i think the joke is that Franz von Papen helped Hitler in becoming a chancellor

[@igorlopes7589]

​@@bloodwargaming3662The centre party naming you-know-who as chancellor of germany.

[@nesshin]

I don't believe in "ceilings" when it comes to potential voters. People always told me I didn't have to worry about the far-right winning in the Netherlands for reasons like that, and they were tragically proven wrong. A smart campaign strategy and changing tides in the political landscape can make a party like that attract a lot more votes than you would think.

[@MovieRiotHD]

We also thought Wilders peaked, and now he leads the polls at 30%. No one can predict the future appearantly 🤷

[@AlexC-ou4ju]

hasn't his coalition fallen apart and he's announced he won't be leader?

[@chunkykong1976]

@@AlexC-ou4junot exactly, the coalition is still there, only they needed a lot of new talks and are considering a programkabinet ( I have no idea what that entails but other parties claim it’s just a different name for a mayority kabinet ). Second, he still wants to be prime minister, but he’s willing to forsake that role if it means he can form a government.

[@chunkykong1976]

it’s not a 100% that they’ve peaked but they are near their limit. Even still if they got the seats the polls show then they’d be the 3rd largest party in dutch history. According to Maurice de Hond, 50% of the people who stayed with NSC in the polls want Omzigt to work together with Wilders ( 80% for the ones that left NSC in the polls ) so there are still a few seats they could get.

[@mrvwbug4423]

That means 70% of NL doesn't want Wilders as PM. IMHO if Wilders can form a government with him not being PM the leader of NSC should take the PM role, he seems like a decent guy and is far less polarizing than Wilders who the vast majority of Dutch people hate.

[@jaspermooren5883]

​@@mrvwbug4423none of them are doing it. There's going to be a kabinet without any of the major party leaders in government. The idea is to create distance between the government and parliament. At least that's what they are saying right now. However, until there is a new government, nothing is set in stone.

[@MDE1992]

There is no such thing as an upper limit, when a party gains momentum just before the elections. That's exactly what we saw with the Dutch PVV, they scored way more than their "upper limit".

[@autumnjacaranda106]

Keep coping

[@MDE1992]

@@autumnjacaranda106 You're saying keep coping to a Dutchman?😂

[@Ki-Explorer]

O, not at all in decline !

[@fireironthesecond2909]

“Economically left but socially conservative.” “Hey I’ve seen this one before it’s a classic!”

[@kc_1018]

Christian democracy?

[@MagicNash89]

"Economically left but socially conservative." - You mean like christian democracy(Italy, Germany)/gaulism(France), especially after the war in Europe? Right now they are more right-wing economically though. It sure is a classic, economic boom and unprecendented prosperity.

[@Vasco0982]

Communist parties in places like Portugal and some Eastern European countries are also like this

[@matthewkopp2391]

They are very economically left. Kaiser derived his ideas from Marx Engels and Frankfurt school and Thomas Piketty. So „far right“ is the most absurd accusation. I trust Wagenknecht much more though. As far as immigration reform and the issue, they are right that corporate power is squarely to blame but also NATO created the problems. The AFD has been slow to point to NATO but now they have. Wagenknecht is much smarter and more principled IMO.

[@Richard1A2B]

Yesterday, Ireland's High Court declared the UK an unsafe country to return migrants to, on account of its Rwanda deportation policy. The AfD might be in decline, but its ilk is alive and influential in the UK.

[@SnowWhiteArches]

Why the Irish court was even considering such case in the first place?

[@wile123456]

AfD doesn't exist in the UK, but yes, racist parties and anti-democratic parties are alive and well in all of Europe. Around 25% of Europe's population vote for openly racist parties.

[@wfcyellow]

Good point.

[@wvvwwvwvv]

Ireland is already being colonized. Too late for them.

[@matthewgubbins8515]

My god imagine getting rid of illegal immigrants. It's like that's one of the main things government is meant too do

[@stephanwaldchen]

Me: TLDR pronounciations can't get any worse TLDR: TILLINGER!

[@rafazielinski2633]

This new SWA party literally took worst things from left and right wing xD

[@mrvwbug4423]

SWA leader is 100% on Russian payroll, she is totally a GRU asset. der Linke has always been suspected of being a Russian plant anyway, with most of the legit leftists choosing the green party.

[@Khazar321]

@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn I would agree with you, if she wasn't a Russian puppet. Demanding peace by forcing the invaded to slave under the invader is not a great stance, if you have any morals whatsoever.

[@super_guitar_dude7954]

the dutch variant now polls 50+ out of 150 total seats and has been at this level since last year december

[@tikket10]

49 actually, but yeah that wont grow anymore

[@Dendarang]

PVV? Ol' Gerty won't be the PM anymore so it's less of a problem. It means he can't enforce his worst election promises banning Mosques or leaving the EU.

[@chunkykong1976]

@@tikket10it hasn’t grown in a while but that doesn’t mean it’s growth has completely stopped. still though, they don’t have a mayority in the eerste kamer and no party besides VVD, NSC and BBB wants to work with them.

[@mrvwbug4423]

PVV is peaked, and there will likely have to be another election unless Wilders agrees to not be PM in a PVV led coalition. Absolutely nobody outside of PVV wants to see Wilders as PM of NL. VVD and NSC have both said they will not form any coalition with PVV if Wilders is allowed to be PM. If PVV keeps pulling 25-30% pluralities in subsequent elections Mark Rutte will just remain in the job until Wilders goes away and a government can form. It's clear 75% of NL voters do NOT want Wilders as PM

[@b.1756]

the "dutch variant" has also become more moderate recently which does help with its polling.

[@JosephSolisAlcaydeAlberici]

AfD may have declined in poll numbers, but it will be enough for mainstream centrist political parties like the CDU to adopt some AfD's political platforms like selective deportation of undesirable migrants to their countries of origin.

[@Muse22sims]

Probably not, because capitalists (whom happen to be right wing) get a lot of benefits from an underclass. An underclass of people that can go to work, but whom are also not knowledgeable enough about worker rights. CDU may adopt some of the language, but in the end every normal political party in Europe knows that immigration helps economies sustainably grow. Low wage labor abuse is one of the reasons why we Europeans have such a good living condition.

[@felixsantosa3815]

​@@Muse22simsthe problem is that immigration has long ceased to be a topic of rational discussion and instead it has become an emotional topic with a lot of fear mongering.

[@notfunny3397]

And which migrants are undesirable?

[@gargoyle7863]

@@notfunny3397 Criminals, islamists and social welfare freeloader.

[@MarketsDriveTheWorld]

​@@notfunny3397i don't know, maybe you ☪️an tell us. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jeffmorris5802]

Well this aged like milk lol

[@mathewho9796]

Amazes me that Europeans can mass mobilise the population to protest for even things like AFD but my country of Australia doesn't even mass protest on Austerity

[@jaspermooren5883]

I mean quite a few people are in favour of austerity. Austerity is fundamentally not a bad thing, it's just fiscal policy. To not even protest on austerity is quite a weird thing to say, since that is far more acceptable in the west to do basically everywhere than literally deporting a part of your own population simply due to genetic heritage. These 2 things are not even remotely close to being in the same ballpark. I'm not even saying that austerity is the right thing to do for Australia right now, I don't know even remotely enough about Australian politics to say anything on the topic, but phrasing it as obviously worse is weird at best.

[@infrared_90]

The far right (and far left) will always peak somewhere since there are still a lot of people - including myself - who will never support parties like that because they are for starters unrealistic populists. I would rather vote for a party that is "the lesser evil". And therefore I think most far right and far left parties will always remain the ones shouting at the sideline how bad the government is without having a proper alternative to that government.

[@mendesjosr4438]

I agree. Most have totally incoherent policies. Contradictory with each other often. And if we go into their ideal world if applied these policies would be disastrous. Look at Orban. He is doing fine ekectorally right? Yet 75% of young Hungarians want to live and work outside Hungary because they see no future in their own country. Scared (scared to loose pensions, scared about foreigners, scared about a changing world, scared about the Germans, etc etc ) old people vote for him and keep him in power but in terms of future? Nada. And it's the mark of all our populist parties and Trumpism. They are a generalized punch on the table against what scares people and their essential solution to everything is to go indoors, bolt the door and hope and fight for things not to change -which always does

[@idoshulman6379]

@@TheIrishLad06 Especially in Germany, who once tried to go with those types of parties once...

[@klaykid117]

Exactly this extremist parties only when in the toughest of tough times. Same with green parties They usually get a couple of seats but nobody seriously wants them to leave their country because they have no plan other than destroy civilization to protect the environment

[@darthnox7958]

Italy says hi

[@robertr5844]

let's not forget to mention that some CDU members also attended the right-wing meeting in nov 23!

[@illbeback111]

That now formed their own far right offspring of the CDU

[@saitamab.7296]

also its all hearsay grossly exaggerated by the media. So basically a comlplete non-scandal.

[@lisaruhm6681]

Those were not CDU members, those were "Werteunion" members, a right wing split off group of the party.

[@editorrbr2107]

This aged like milk in the sun

[@666Tomato666]

CDU-AfD coalition?! sure! And the pope has a wedding next Tuesday...

[@konsumkind99]

Merz is not opposed to it. So there is some possibility

[@illbeback111]

@@konsumkind99He is opposed to it. Noboy will form a coalition with the AfD. The demonstrations showed what a lot of people think about them and how much damage a coalition would do to the party.

[@konsumkind99]

@@illbeback111i know he made some attemps to shift his position on 03.02.24 in his newletter, but since then made the oposite claim multiple times. i wouldnt count on merz at all. The satirical show "Die Anstalt" even made a whole Epsiode about him, constantly grifting towards the AFD and not giving a consistant and decisive "no" to coalitions with them. He is almost changing his position on a weekly basis.

[@illbeback111]

@@konsumkind99So you base your opinion on a satirical show? Nobody will form a coalition with the AfD this would push away every voter that is not liking the AfD, which is almost all voters not voting for them. It would be political suicide.

[@Stoddardian]

Conservatives will always prefer making alliances with their leftist enemies over others on the right. They are the bane of national revival.

[@DEGermany]

I'm really hoping that the reported decline is an actual representation of reality, because this party is a problem and many don't see it, even though it has been confirmed time and time again. Even if it means that the CDU will be back in charge, which I am NOT a fan of, but it's the 2nd worst option.

[@MonsieurMoustachio]

Was genau ist falsch mit 8 Millionen Menschen die sich am ehesten von einer rechten Partei repräsentiert fühlen und gerne nationale Interessen verteidigen? Die Partei ist ein Problem für jeden der unserer neuen globalen Führungselite angehört. Ist das der Fall?

[@jermunitz3020]

Why is Germany putting Germans first a problem? Israel, Japan and China all do it and their people don’t have multiculturalism problems

[@GoDLiKeKakashi]

It's only a problem if the establishment parties don't clamp down on immigration of every fucker with a sob story to tell and no documents to prove it. Merkel's open door rhetoric has been the greatest fuel for the rise of right wing parties across Europe so I very much hold her personally responsible for the mess we're all in now.

[@strife2746]

How you still don't vote CDU or AfD after all the immigration/asylum problems Germany has seen is beyond me. Are you and your people really that clueless?

[@napoleonfeanor]

People like you are the problem in this country. Both AfD and BSW are needed direly. You also seem to be delusional to think CDU is conservative in any way

[@gregjames9875]

This did not age well.

[@lud3re384]

"Why Germany’s AfD is in Decline" Maybe because some of their members had a Wannseekonferenz style meeting...

[@wvvwwvwvv]

It wasnt Wannseekonferenz style, it was anti-immigrantion at best.

[@ljr6490]

@@wvvwwvwvvclown

[@roxylius7550]

Deporting foreigners that dont want to integrate is apaprently a wild idea these days

[@jandevry3985]

The main cause of the drop is that people are not prepared to tell that they would vote for the AfD at the pollsters because of intimidation. The Meeting at the Potsdam estate was a private meeting between AfD, IB and CDU members which have a legal right to meet on private property.

[@RationalistMH]

@@jandevry3985 Well, a lot of polls are anonymous so I don't think intimidation plays much of a role here..

[@hax007]

I think Correctiv has retracted the claim that the meeting discussed expelling German citizens.

[@VNRG1993]

as a german, its true, because they lost a lawsuit currently and had to change their post etc. but nobody is talking about that ofc cuz it doesn't fit their left wing agenda like on this channel

[@walther2492]

No they didn't lost this law suit and didn't had to change their claim. In fact, they won on two of the three points in this lawsuit and only had to change a single sentence, regarding a specific person. You are welcome to read this, as the verdict is publicly available: Higher Regional Court of Hamburg - 324 O 61/24

[@KonsaiAsTai]

@@walther2492 I can read the "verdict", but I've yet to see a single document, transcript, audio feed or video material of the "meeting" in question. Correctiv's "claims" (which is all they are until evidence is publically available) don't hold water whatsoever.

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

The lawsuit didn't even attacked this position. The only statement (1 of 3 that all had nothing to do with the core information provided by the article btw) that was retracted was some minor thing about a single member attending the meeting and as I said above had nothing to do with what caused the protests at all

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

​​@@KonsaiAsTaiyou can read Maximilian Krahs book, where he stated that 25 Million Germans 'have' to be deported and there is a vid of Björn Höcke stating that 20-30% of Germans 'have' to be deported, including citizens (btw this was exactly one month after the Wannsee-Conference 2.0). The AfD Grundsatzprogramm also makes it clear how they are a party for the elite, discrimination, totalitarian politics and arbitrary decisions against migrants

[@ebermtheburn]

The AfD has likely for now reached it's peak in the polling. But it can get a surge in polling numbers if there is another crisis or scandal of the government. The only thing that can really stop the AfD is the AfD's own policies, which would be very unpopular if actually implemented. So say they form a regional government after the next elections in east Germany. They could implement some of their agenda, people will realize it sucks, and then their polling numbers will go down again. AfD support isn't solid, it's fluid. That means it's extremely fragile. As long as the AfD isn't actually having responsibilities, they can enjoy default support due to the discontent with the federal government and the lack of a viable radical left wing alternative. This is because the german left party is a shell of what it was in 2007-2009 in it's peak because of the multiple unpopular regional coalitions it was a part of.

[@robadzso]

Well, now look at your projection again please. It didn't really turn to reality did it? *'Extremism, far right'* ... Yeah, yeah, whatever ... Words are nothing but hot air ... People see things for what they are and are simply fed up with bs like this... 🎉🎉🎉

[@nicbahtin4774]

Doesn't look like anything changed since no party overtook it.

[@Landtagsabgeordneter]

It’s refreshing to watch our politics from a non-German view. Keep it up

[@mrsentencename7334]

This channel is funded by the same people that infest Germany. It's an international clique 😉

[@GD-jc3wx]

Don't worry. The far-right is not normalised yet, but once it is in France or other places in Europe, it will also be in Germany. Give it time.

[@Stoddardian]

I hope you're right. Germans are so brainwashed.

[@joejoejoejoebiden]

We had similiar situation in Poland. Far-right fascist-biased party called "The Confederation" was peaking in polls three months before the elections. They made it into the top 3 with advocacy of 16-17% Poles. It was dangerous beacuse it provided possibility of far-right populist coallition with Law and Justice. For the context, Law and Justice was holding the power single-handedly. Its biggest enemy was liberal Civic Coalition. The two other combatants were the center-right Third Way, and The Left. Confederation was known of its skepticism for the Ukraine, LGBTQ rights, woman's rights, Jewes. The far-right extremist Grzegorz Braun even suggested penalization of the homosexual acts. But when elections came Confederation achieved only 7.1% of the votes. It was a huge relief

[@TheStudio-div]

its funny where you tonne down into far left as "the left" but still call other party as "far right"

[@MightyMakin]

@@TheStudio-divThe left just want the power lol, they don’t care about this shit

5:42 These polls are rarely accurate to the entire population and strongly depend on region. If you ask in western Berlin, 80% will disslike the AfD. If you ask in Thuringia for an example, theyd be the most supported party. Also people get labelled racist very quickly if they dont agree with the protests.

[@kingconstantinusthesadisti133]

People really dslike party with better economy policy. So blind & naive.

[@Stoddardian]

Berlin is filled with self-hating hipsters and migrants.

[@ralphmarx7554]

A Russian FSB ring was broken up

[@blamasterk]

AfD and BSW will grow until something fundamentally changes.

[@Stoddardian]

Nothing is going to change. Europe is finished. By the end of the century it will look like South Africa. And you know what, Europeans deserve it. There should have been a fascist backlash against this Third-Worldization literally DECADES ago. But no, they're protesting against the "far-right". Why would I have any sympathy for people who cheer on their own extinction?

[@aprescoup]

In 1911 Italian sociologist Roibert Michels published the book Political Parties, which contains a description of the *"iron law of oligarchy."* This description has held true ever since. I'd advise those who can see the utter bleakeniess for the working class masses in the cards for our future to read up on this law, even if only cursorily by going to wikipedia.

[@napoleonfeanor]

AfD isn't in decline. It stabilised around 20% and lost some voters to the non-woke new socialist party of Sahra Wagenknecht, who is economically very leftist but on culture war issues against the woke and against mass migration and especially illegal immigration, which is seen as a neoliberal idea to weaken the working class and help big business. Bernie Sanders used to say it a lot in the past.

[@walther2492]

Take a look at the "Sonntagsfrage Bundestagswahl". This is a collection of all the major opinion research institutes and clearly shows that the AfD has lost around 5 to 6 percent.

[@batrachian149]

April 30, 1945

[@SarastistheSerpent]

There’s no such thing as “woke”. It’s a far right buzzword

[@SarastistheSerpent]

Bernie sanders is socially liberal and would never support the fascist side of the culture war

[@KonsaiAsTai]

@@SarastistheSerpent Ironic. An obviously far left wokist calling "woke" a "far right buzzword". It's amusing.

[@OdinAllfather123]

This second rise of the AfD is interesting, because at this point they have a pretty solid reputation as a far right party, so the implication is that those switching know what they are voting for. Which makes it unlikely that they will return to one of the mainstream parties at some point in the future.

[@kdato774]

They are still rising in some states, like Thuringia.

[@mrvwbug4423]

What can you say, former East Germans long for the days of totalitarianism

[@NoidoDev]

​@@mrvwbug4423 No they are against it, that's exactly the point.

[@illbeback111]

@@NoidoDevKind of schizophrenic to vote for a party thats on the grasp of being labeled a right wing extrimist to "fight" totalitarianism.

[@d.b.2215]

​​@@NoidoDevA big part of them love totalitarianism. That's why they have a love for dictatorships, like the Soviet Union, and they're anti Western democracy

[@ludovic2431]

In every European county the high court should decide over the admittance of "non constitutional political parties". Avoids problems in a later stage.

[@miscellaneoussarnian5282]

Looks like the German people have wised-up to what certain party led by an Austrian Painter that AfD could become

[@jermunitz3020]

More like they've been brainwashed into hating their own country.

[@wile123456]

It's not what they can become, it's what they are. All neo-nazis vote for the AfD and many top politicians in them have ties to the neo Nazi community.

[@df289]

That is just ignorant BS.

[@ErnestoHerrera2002]

History always repeats itself I guess…

[@ecnalms851]

The far right rises when the other mainstream parties are out of touch with the people/doing a bad job.

[@mithilbhoras5951]

This aged so poorly lol

[@Gengchen82]

Doesnt matter bcs our current government in germany can barely get 32%. 68% want a change, which is good.

[@mrvwbug4423]

but elections are a long way off, a lot can change in the meantime

[@CaribouEno]

Luckily, in Germany a government does not govern by polls. They do not change their policies daily on actual polls, like it is the case in the US. That is why Germany used to be stable. But with social media, the only arguments all the opposition have are the actual polls. And that is the only thing they share on a daily basis. Boring.

[@jointser1008]

@@mrvwbug4423 they are absolute morons one of the worst governments we ever had the only thing that changes is the further decline of the current government

[@henrybn14ar]

The party might have peaked but the resentment against mainstream policies keeps on growing. "Far Right" and ******phobia are badges of honour.

[@SarastistheSerpent]

Unfortunately true. Fascism is currently going through a renaissance. History is repeating itself

[@henrybn14ar]

@@SarastistheSerpent The fascism is Islam. The collaboration goes back over 80 years.

[@d.b.2215]

​@@henrybn14arFascism can take many forms. Islamism is not the only flavour of it.

[@mendesjosr4438]

Demagogic parties are great as a protest vote but to actually rule they are crap

[@mrvwbug4423]

As we see in Italy with Meloni's endless budget crises. Literally every single right wing populist led government blows up the budget and can't avoid economic calamity. Unless you're Millei, then you balance the budget in a day, and put 80% of your population in extreme poverty within a month. A lot of Argentinians are going to starve under Millei.

[@NoidoDev]

It's the party of normalcy and the only pro-German party. This shouldn't be controversial in freaking Germany.

[@fedethefico]

CORRECTION: Fratelli d'Italia is much closer to the UK Conservative than to Reform UK. On several topics, Conservatives are more extreme than FdI.

[@heartsofiron4ever]

Thuringia Poll: 18-25 Year olds: AfD at 40%. We ain't going nowhere.

[@MonsieurMoustachio]

europeans looking after themselves and the interests of their country? can't have that.

[@SLDimarco]

For a subset of Europeans.... you people never learn.

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

​@@SLDimarco Germans looking after Germans for example. Polish looking after Polish. Hungarians looking after Hungarians. Europeans aren't just one people and they didn't undergo colonization like the tribes that were prezent on USA's current territory did.

[@MonsieurMoustachio]

@@SLDimarco i hope so.

[@nickt2822]

@@MonsieurMoustachio folow you dear leaders example. you are a barbarian not a european.

[@krombopulos_michael]

"looking after" being a euphemism for harming others rather than anything to help themselves, and also declaring a subset of their own populations to be "not Germans" so they can be treated as second class citizens. That happened once before in Germany and wasn't pretty.

[@johnhobbes2268]

Another detail to the remigration conference is that there is a historic connotation to it. iy was made only a few hundret meters away from the hotel where the "wannsee konferenz" happened during ww2. it was the conference where the "madagascar plan" was declared unrealistic (basically the same plan they discussed this time again) and the regime changed to the full genocidal mode.

[@vr6428]

Didnt happen

[@johnhobbes2268]

@@vr6428 So where did the remigration conference happen and how far away is it frm berlins wannsee?

[@vr6428]

@@johnhobbes2268 i mean, the holocaust

[@jaygirling7611]

This aged well

[@rezolutionist7715]

Reminds me the farmers' party in The Netherlands.

[@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe]

The BBB party you're are talking about is centrist compared to the ethno-nationalist AfD.

[@grovert4life]

more like the fvd or pvv

[@kingdomofbird8174]

Their voted have gone mostly to the PVV

[@rezolutionist7715]

@@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe Yeah, I should have been more clear on this. I meant their popularity growing high unexpectedly, then going down to the pit.

[@SithStudy]

@@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe nothing wrong with being an ethno-nationalist. especially when you have millions of people who live in your civilization who hate your civilization.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Splitting the AfD vote certainly will bring relief to the CDU. Assuming CDU support remains at present levels and AfD declines and stays down it means next election will produce a safe grand coalition government and CDU will be under no pressure to work with AfD.

[@Stoddardian]

And the CDU can continue the Africanization of Germany.

[@NeoRetroX]

Aged like fine Bauern Milch

[@alkismavridis1]

Because Ruzzia is running out of cache due to more urgent priorities 🫠

[@MegaShrooom]

This Russia conspiracy stuff is so tired and childish. Maybe Germans just want to secure their borders?

[@876xboss_albanerx64]

@@MegaShrooom we see how well this "secure border" argument worked for the UK.

[@captainvanisher988]

"Muh Russian collusion". Same garbage we heard during the 2016 election and yet the entirety of the FBI and CIA couldn't prove it.

[@konsumkind99]

There is a also a lot of funding from swiss and german corporations. Sry, but the AFD is financially doing very well :/ even more so than before 2022

[@O5-07TheUnlikely]

Well the "decline" happened because BSW was established. The end Goal is still to kick the current Ruling Partys not only out of Goverment, but also out of the Bundestag. A Lot of Peopel Currently Voting for the AFD considere Them to be the Thread against Democracy.

[@walther2492]

No. BSW mainly gets it's voters from the Left Party, the SPD and others. Statistics show that only around 1% went from NSAfD to BSW.

​@@walther2492 You are not considering the Werte Union.

[@YouCountSheep]

Its literally not true what this video claims. For example, the polls in the last election for parlament had the AFD at 10,3% current polls have it at 17% In every state the AFD polls are up by 4-17% This seems to be a propaganda piece. Citing politico, an extremely left leaning internet outlet is like citing the US state department on internal russian affairs. This video is nonsense and does not reflect reality. Yes it goes up and down, but that is not at all representative of the overall increase since the last election. In some states AFD went up to even 30% which is HUGE considering the amount of political parties. Usually a party wins with 28-35%.

[@Spartansareawesome11]

It’s not saying that it’s lower than last election, just that the massive rise is finally over. Even a rise that ends and starts falling can be higher than the last election. It’s you deciding to use the last election as a metric to base whether the AFD is in decline. This video is talking about the rise ending

[@YouCountSheep]

@@Spartansareawesome11The title is literally "AFD in decline". Are you saying that when you go up a mountain and have a tiny divit and choose that exact moment that the mountain is going downwards? Thats the stupidest thing ever. Learn to read a trendline. HINT: You interpolate the data so you are able to draw a straight line to visualize if it goes up or down. It not that difficult.

[@GoDLiKeKakashi]

"Citing politico, an extremely left leaning internet outlet is like citing the US state department on internal russian affairs." You say that like it's not true that leading up to the invasion of Ukraine, the US was the one telling everyone that Russia WILL invade and people like YOU were the ones that laughed it off as warmongering anti-Russian propaganda. You laughed right up until the tanks started rolling into Ukraine and then everyone suddenly changed tune to "nobody could have expected this..." So in this comparison, I will 100% trust politico as the US state department was 100% correct about Russia when everyone else was wrong.

[@gundleyG]

Woher auch immer deine Umfragewerte kommen ... egal ob du es dir schönredest ... die AfD wird in der Versenkung verschwinden, wie schon die Republikaner vor einigen Jahren - an die du dich wahrscheinlich nicht erinnern kannst, da sie bei rund 0,1 % angekommen sind.

[@bot-h2h]

​@@YouCountSheep4% down is still a lot

[@carlcramer9269]

This sounds very much like the early SD (Sverigedemokraterna, Swedish Democrats) in Sweden. SD is a reasonably accepted party today.

[@sonyphotoguy6601]

They also want to deport 20-25% of the population? Even native Swedish families that are not willing to participate in the "remigration"?

[@MrDarudin]

That is pretty much where the AfD is headed eventually. Whilst their rhetoric is dubious it's far from being fascist.

[@Stoddardian]

Sweden yes!

[@111Sakana111]

There is so much to correct in this video...I dont even know where to start

[@aliel-husseini9143]

This aged horribly, typical liberal analysis

[@Ganjor420]

I’m always surprised how calm international media is talking about the AfD… have you forgotten what we did last time when fascism took over Germany??

[@AEIOU05]

If the AFD is fascist, then I’m Julius Evola. Most of them are just former CDU members/voters who aren’t complicit with the constant shift to the left in Germany

[@TheStudio-div]

everyone you dont like is a fascism even they are jewish.

[@mrsentencename7334]

define fascism. I bet you think it's just 'nationalist thugs and... stuff' Hint: It's not

[@Ganjor420]

@@mrsentencename7334 I don't need to define fascism for you, you can use Google yourself.

[@Stoddardian]

At least they weren't flooding Europe with subhumans.

[@theredishradish]

In don‘t know, if we are the only country like that, but in Germany, Voters are generally very divided. While in for instance the US, there are a lot of voters, that might switch their voting habits between elections, based on the candidates. Such a thing is vera rare in Germany. A right wing voter would never vote for a more leftist or social democrat candidate, even if they might like them personally. Also the other way around.

[@Robert-hz9bj]

First rule of resisting fascism: never assume the fascists have "peaked"...

[@OPOS-el7tj]

No fascism here

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

​@@OPOS-el7tj maybe not here but definitely in the AfD (or at least the problematic policies, left people summarize under the term of fascism)

[@OPOS-el7tj]

@RedOne-ib1me if you're dead set on an ideology, follow that line of thinking... but be aware that it seems closer to brainwashing than genuine belief.

[@abcjuniormilton]

If "fascism" means wanting to put the native Germans and Germany first and not wanting to be flooded with Africans, Arabs and Turks, then fine. It's time to free Germany from its Judeo-American occupiers.

[@Brandon-c6f]

This aged horribly they got 2nd place in the eu elections lmao

[@cassif19]

I'm a med school graduate in the process of emigrating to Germany. During a visit in Nürnberg, right outside the train station I arrived at, I met loads of anti AfD protesters with messages like: "Foreigners are welcome here", and I was thinking: "Thanks! I honestly really appreciate it". I do feel welcome in Germany, both on the streets and in the hospital ❤

[@Huuuuuuuuuuuu107]

hehe nice

[@vorna]

I don't even think the majority of AfD Party would be against med students coming to Germany. They are against mass migration by the millions as it happened in recent years.

[@DenzelPF-jl4lj]

Welcome! :)

[@vorna]

I think even most of that AxD Pxrty wouldn't have a problem with med students coming to Germany. Their issue is the mxss xxigration of millions of people in the last years to Germany.

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

​@nonradicalnationalist6608the only thing that is not welcome here is your attitude towards your fellow germans

[@munchezfonataba]

Well, the recent European Parliament election tells otherwise.😂😂😂😂

[@C90-k2f]

The AfD had some setbacks in the polls, but was still often able to mobilize voters again and again.

[@ks4733]

Unfortunately not 😢😢😢

[@XxDirtyXxXSanchezxX]

AfD will never decline when Germany continues this migration politics. Well, if so, we can only emigrate from this country.

[@waltergro9102]

As most people I always disagreed with the official migration policy. But Germans were too timid to vote for an anti migration party (back then always right wing) unlike in other countries where the people could prevent the worst unlike in Germany where governments misused their freedom from opposition of such parties to allow or even further the flooding of the country with illegal and legal (cheap labor) migrants. But I'm not poised to leave Germany.

[@wotanvonedelsburg1610]

​@@waltergro9102its a invasion...

[@waltergro9102]

@@wotanvonedelsburg1610 Yes, it's an Islamist invasion supported by traitors.

[@purpledragonofhonor2193]

ja dann geh doch bitte

[@waltergro9102]

@@purpledragonofhonor2193 Nein, diejenigen haben zu gehen, die hier illegal millionenfach und im Widerspruch zur (provisorischen) Verfassung des deutschen Nationalstaates hereingekommen sind.

[@lucaarama2975]

afd got second place

[@MarktYertd]

"I don't believe it's in decline, and furthermore, there's a growing number of young people joining because they're disillusioned with mainstream liberal parties that seek to attract individuals from certain religious backgrounds that hold conservative views, particularly regarding the LGBTQ community. These parties prioritize external issues over internal ones."

[@wile123456]

Islamist and fascists agree on the same thing, oppression of degernates. They are just racist against eachother because one is Arab supremacist and the other is white supremacist, but otherwise their ideology are on the same part of the political spectrum.

[@legitplayin6977]

Ah yes, AfD, the party known for accepting LGBT people

[@azazelazel]

What are the quotation marks for?

[@jonasvolkmann2100]

"gay people existing is forcing young people to vote fascist lunatics" is an insane argument

[@RationalistMH]

I think this take mostly comes from people too entrenched in online culture wars. I don't doubt that AfD might be growing, but most of it is due to grievances with migration and the economy. Most polls show that views on the so-called 'LGBTQ community' don't rank high up in the list of issues motivating voters. Young people are also by far the least religious generation in history, so I doubt religion plays a role here, unless we're referring to Muslim immigrants for whom religion does play a more powerful role in dictating beliefs on social/political issues.

[@sebastian-h9m5j]

decline? bssssssssssssssssssssss

[@byteflowr912]

As many other viewers pointed out, the title of this video is not reflecting the reality in Germany. In some state elections this year, AfD is set to become the largest party, and they are ahead by a lot. Speaking of a "Decline" is plain wrong. They are actually just not accelerating as fast as they did a bit ago. I expect better from TLDR!

[@misterl8904]

What? My guy you underestimate this horrendous meeting of course their polling numbers will drop. In some states they have a stronghold, but if they are doing even more scandals their facade will break apart. As a German myself I'm quite ashamed, that people here are voting for them.

[@jandevry3985]

What’s so horrendous about the meeting.

[@lukasdutli3473]

They are dropping country wide, but thats mostly in the west - in the east the AFD is stable at the moment.

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

​​@@jandevry3985it repeats the worst part of our history and is a last wakeup call for what was apparent behind sheer curtains all along Byteflowr: they are radicalizing now so it might appear in your bubble like they're growing but on a germany-wide scale that isn't true

​@@misterl8904 The AfD is really losing 4% (wich isnt that much compared to other parties like the spd) because of new parties like WU and BSW.

[@st0ox]

The only thing I get from this channel is that I don't understand the UK and TLDR doesn't understand Germany.

[@ednorton47]

It is important to remember that the NSDAP lost seats in the election held just prior to them coming to power. In the next nationwide Federal election, the AfD vote share will likely rise to 37%.

[@OdinAllfather123]

When the NSDAP lost those seats it scared them so much that they were willing to negotiate a coalition government after years of blocking any negotiation whatsoever. The elections after that were already not free.

[@sonyphotoguy6601]

We learned from the past. This will no happen.

[@ednorton47]

@Buelow.The attitude of Germans will change when the banks fail.

[@sauberpfeil]

Stimmt nicht, die AfD ist sehr stabil und der Trend ist nicht rückläufig. Recherchiert bitte besser, bevor ihr solche Videos macht.

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

Nur weil er außerhalb deiner rechten Bubble recherchiert ist seine Recherche nicht schlechter 😂

[@sauberpfeil]

@@ATOM-vv3xu Erstens sage ich mit meiner Anmerkung keines falls, dass ich ein Rechter bin, da das stärker werden der AfD (leider) ein Fakt ist, welcher durch solche Videos einfach versucht wird, kleingeredet zu werden. Und zweitens, was hat das mit irgendwelchen Bubbles zu tun?

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

Sorry, alle anderen die das sagen und sich politisch positionieren haben sich pro AFD positioniert, also habe ich verallgemeinert. Die Rhetorik, dass die AfD immer stärker werde und das Volk sei wird in rechten Bubbles leider sehr verbreitet, was die Kommunikation mit solchen Leuten kompliziert macht, bis sie diese verlassen. Die meisten Recherchen zu dem Thema - inkl. zuverlässigen Quellen - ergeben halt, dass die AfD gerade deutschlandweit (also es gibt natürlich Variationen nach Bundesland) schwächer wird. Dementsprechend ist es völlig valide, wenn er diesem Glauben schenkt. Solange die breite Mehrzahl der Primär-Quellen einen Sachverhalt auf gleiche Weise darstellen, ist es auch nicht zwingend notwendig, die alternativen Meinungen zu nennen. Man sagt ja auch nicht, dass manche Menschen denken die Erde wäre flach, wenn man jemandem erklärt, dass sie rund ist.

[@hunorrevesz2354]

Unpopular opinion: The AfD voters not brave enough to say they are AfD voters, but the elections will show you the real voting base of the AfD.

[@elomial724]

Fine but AfD had 23% already so why would they be less scared then?

[@meikala2114]

why dont they double down?

[@ljr6490]

Nah

[@close_all_tabs]

Even more unpopular opinion: a big chunk of AFD voters is not even "German" and would fall victim of the implied "remigration regulations".

[@hunorrevesz2354]

@@close_all_tabs Yeah it's funny because AfD has the most voters among Turks and LGBTQIA2S+ members.

[@American-Orthodox-Christian]

aged horribly

[@georgejpg]

You pronounced Thuringia wrong

[@g4m3life86]

We Americans, we find the free mixing of politics and religion in Europe bizarre, though claiming many parallels exist between the USA and Europe. Highly multilateral with 5-10 major parties in operation. It's really the opposite of in the USA where there are center-left Democrats and center-right Republican "big-tent" parties who attempt to appeal to everyone by opposing the other

[@KnightRaymund]

The march to the right is horrific

[@Stoddardian]

Europeans not wanting to go extinct is horrific? Why do you hate Europeans so much?

[@ghazalizul9126]

Many said right wing populist parties will lose, but the results says otherwise, just look at recent elections in Netherland, Italy, Hungary etc

[@twicethegalo]

I don't know who really says this

[@thebigcheese8169]

Hungary really isnt a surprise because Fidesz's pseudo-democracy forced most young open minded hungarians to migrate elsewhere. Other parties have almost no chance

[@chunkykong1976]

@@twicethegaloI dont know about Italy or hungary but with the Netherlands the polls severly underestimated the PVV with a 13 seat out of 150 seat difference. So maybe he’s referring to that.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Wilders still only got 1/4 of the vote, which means 3/4 of the Dutch didn't want him as PM. He still can't form a government.

[@avacyn2000]

Remigration sounds based.

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

More like toxic tbh

[@kko5779]

Germany should be more concerned with giving reparations to Namibia and Tanzania for their atrocities

[@avacyn2000]

@@kko5779 Womp womp. No one cares. That argument suffers from infinite regression.

[@avacyn2000]

@@ATOM-vv3xu Not as toxic as Islam.

[@ATOM-vv3xu]

@@avacyn2000 most people of the Islam aren't toxic at all. What AfD propaganda is referring to is islamism, which is an extreme belief in Islam. So saying that Islam is toxic is like saying the right is toxic because the right extremists that are proposing deportation and such are toxic.

[@Drecon84]

One lesson we learned in the Netherlands is that if the entire theme of the elections is going to be migration, the result is that the party that is the most anti-migration will win big. If other themes are going to have a bigger spotlight and the solutions don't involve migration, you move away from the racist parties as a result. Maybe there's still hope for Germany. We'll see.

[@WingkKong]

What hope Germany is Under the total control the America