Why Germany's AfD is Losing All its Allies

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In today’s episode, we run through why Germany’s AfD is losing all its allies. Also, we discuss the UK election campaigns ramping up; China stepping up military drills in Taiwan; and the UN resolution on the Srebrenica genocide.
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Further reading:
✍️ Why Europe's Far-Right Is Falling Out with the AfD
www.ft.com/content/09f3b637-e...
www.ft.com/content/adb37d25-f...
www.dw.com/en/right-wing-grou...
✍️ Day 2 of the UK Election Campaigns
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...
✍️ China Steps up Military Drills
edition.cnn.com/2024/05/23/as...
www.voanews.com/a/china-warns...
✍️ UN Resolution on the Srebrenica Genocide
x.com/NationalIndNews/status/...
x.com/NationalIndNews/status/...
www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5...
n1info.ba/english/news/intern...
✍️ TLDR Good News
www.telegraph.co.uk/world-new...
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00:00 Intro
00:19 Why Europe's Far-Right Is Falling Out with the AfD
03:05 Day 2 of the UK Election Campaigns
04:16 China Steps up Military Drills
05:46 UN Resolution on the Srebrenica Genocide
07:09 TLDR Good News
07:49 Sponsor

[@ppppp524]

No sentence that begins with "Not all members of Hitlers SS..." Is gonna be good for your political career

[@GoTfan-eb8tk]

It does feel like one of those things that you should never EVER say.

[@terdragontra8900]

@duLouser Something being true doesn’t mean it’s good to say. Truth isn’t the only thing that matters (exactly what does matter is, of course, quite controversial)

[@20quid]

Not all members of Hitlers SS were bell-ends, some of them were dick-heads.

[@wow-roblox8370]

@@GoTfan-eb8tk*_ESPECIALLY_* in Germany

[@batrachian149]

​@duLouserDogwhistle username

[@misterlinux9290]

Afd: "the SS weren't Allllll bad" French far right: 💀💀💀💀💀

[@cupidsfavouritecherub9327]

Bro these guys can't even keep the mask on for five minutes lmao its almost cartoonish. And yet somehow, the germans love them

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

​@cupidsfavouritecherub9327 the world is one big south park episode

[@_jpg]

​@@cupidsfavouritecherub9327 Please note that most Germans don't. Even a portion of their own voters don't vote them out of sympathy, but out of antipathy towards the other parties...which is a decision I can't support given their policies, but is understandable to a degree.

[@jaspermooren5883]

@@cupidsfavouritecherub9327 Yeah don't overstate this. In countries like the UK and the US that have (for the most part) bipartisan political systems, being a big political party means something completely different than in a country with many parties. In the last federal election in Germany, AfD won only 10.3% of the vote. The vast majority of Germans are very heavily against AfD, but their voter share is significant none the less. 10% of the votes is significant in most European countries, in the same federal election, the winner (SDP) only got 25% of the vote after all. There is never 1 party that has a majority and gets the say in most European countries. It is almost always coalition talks between several parties. The bad part is that this means that it is much easier for parties like AfD to have a say in politics and have serious influence, but it also means that the likelyhood that they would have absolute say over what happens is near 0. No party has absolutely power ever, you always have to form coalitions with other parties.

[@sirushti1132]

@@cupidsfavouritecherub9327 germans dont love them. they just hate the others.

[@zurielsss]

It’s like ISIS being so crazy that even Taliban wanted nothing to do with you😂

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

The Taliban already did that with ISIS-K...

[@redacted7060]

The Taliban and isis are 2 separate entities that always opposed each other. Classic western education

[@user-yh1qd7lj5f]

comparing european corrupt far right barbarics with tal-iban is an insult to tal-iban

[@DaxRaider]

@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 ... dude thats what he said that wasnt a rethorical but a compare

[@stormstriker2000]

that western bullshit, on ground there is no taliban or isis, its just cheif lords and tribal lords, simply given titles of allaince like isis or taliban.

[@rubiconprime1429]

LePen: “Guys! You have to say those sorts of things with your inside voice. How are we supposed to appear acceptable otherwise?”

[@TheGreat_Kramer1]

"I'm mean we aren't the Americans"

[@DRKrust492]

​@@TheGreat_Kramer1MAGA, not all Americans.

[@mrvwbug4423]

LePen and Wilders: "guys inside voice ok, we can't let them know what we actually are"

[@luisfilipe2023]

It’s not about appearing acceptable it’s about priorities. Fuherism is not good for conservatism

[@luisfilipe2023]

@@mrvwbug4423no one in Europe are Nazis today nice try

[@twinmama42]

You know you f***ed up when Le Pen thinks you're too far right.

[@overtonpendulum2071]

LePen celebrates Blacks in France as supposedly "French". She's a leftie.

[@elias7027]

Not really Le Pen is pretty left. Her own family either left the party amd founded a more conservative one or got kicked out because they are too conservative. Le Pen is pro LGBTQ, pro abortion, called anti Immigration far rate, also since last year she is pro ukraine, pro EU, pro Nato.

[@padriandusk7107]

One of Macron's prime ministers in the past once said Le Pen was too soft. Says a lot about them.

[@kingdomofbird8174]

​@@padriandusk7107Gerald Darmanin? He is too based to Le Pen 🖊️ do anything meaningful

[@angreeee]

term "Far-right" is only used by communists

[@fireironthesecond2909]

*collaborates with Nazis in modern Germany “Gee why do people hate us?”

[@KrzysztofSzkodaGames]

Including Brexit Nazis have voted Leave such as "For Britain" Party were part of the ID group

[@98TrueRocker98]

"Anyone I dont like is a notsee"

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

​@@98TrueRocker98okay but these folks are

[@AllenorLP]

@@98TrueRocker98 Well I certainly don't like anyone who is a Nazi

[@KrzysztofSzkodaGames]

@@AllenorLP we have British ones who have voted Brexit such as BNP Party

[@BlackReaps]

He was trying very hard to keep talking while talking about the 1 year old artist. His smile was just kept growing.

[@Seeker7172]

German Far-Right were larping a little too hard.

[@elitefencer777]

When you transition from kaiserboo to Wehrboo...

[@maxmichalik4938]

@@elitefencer777 Worse. Wehrboos usually clamor on about how the SS were the baddies and the Wehrmacht were just innocent patriots along for the ride. This guy literally went "not all SS".

[@Moreau121]

They were not larping.

[@maxmichalik4938]

@@Moreau121 Such people are always larping. Sometimes they do so murderously, but they never are what they pretend to be.

[@user-gl4hi1lg8n]

As a German i Don't Know if i am sad or Amused

[@The_Stef]

Or both?

[@barbaralepping5886]

Kommt auf deine meinung an. Ich werde weiter hier sitzen und afd-tränen saufen als wäre ich ein etwas älterer herr auf dem oktoberfest.

[@Adde-hy7wx]

Both, a bit sad because they are still projected to gain more seats in the parliament.

[@icytruth6785]

Nur Noch AfD

[@Lots17]

It's very funny

[@yoz722]

As a Taiwanese I didn’t even know there was a military exercise until I watched this video lol

[@MrBurnsExcellent]

Here people are saying 'war and destruction is eminent hide!!!!" lol

[@Ruzzky_Bly4t]

As the video mentioned, the drills from previous years have been bigger, so this is really no big deal.

[@Angelic_Vanguard]

Theres a really funny video of Alexander Vucic crying while kissing the Serbian flag due to Serbia's crimes being recognized

[@user-df1ns1ob8y]

That guy was Information Minister under Milosevic, fuck him.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Why do his facial proportions look so weird lmao

[@BackwoodSpiritAnimal]

As an American, I appreciate this channel because it has helped me understand how the EU politics works (or pretends to work) after a lifetime of outside looking in being really confused. Cheers, TLDR

[@Noah-dh6se]

I would argue it works better than the us and Europe is one of the best places to live

[@2hotflavored666]

​@@Noah-dh6seWell you would be wrong then 😊

[@idraote]

European politics is a sorry mess but US politics is certainly not a paragon.

[@Your_President_Kanye_East]

Where do you go for news on the US?

[@mildlydispleased3221]

​@@Your_President_Kanye_EastThey don't have news that isn't heavily biased and funded by private companies.

[@GrassesOn97]

The racists kick out the other racists for being too racist.

[@mountolympus1098]

Islam is not race

[@quacksayssquawk2899]

@mountolympus1098 no but Arabs and Africans are very clearly of a different race to Europeans

[@_jpg]

​@@mountolympus1098 Races aren't a thing either, but that didn't stop discrimination

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

A pessimistic voice is telling me they secretly agree with the Afd but just want to save face by actin appalled by the Afd.

[@ChadThundercock-cn3ve]

​@@_jpg Oh so suddenly the left are religious rights activists?

[@herbertvonbismarck8303]

You know it’s bad when even French trump said “ok yeah they are absolutely lunatics”

[@nifrain9494]

its not like her party is much better, look at what her own father said... but she wants to be main stream, so she has to put on a new face. But the root remains rotten

[@TealBeal11]

I mean, what did the AFD expect? The SS committed so many atrocities in France. They had to have known there would be massive blowback from that interview

[@98TrueRocker98]

​@@TealBeal11 The SS treated the French better than immigrants

[@michaelgoetze2103]

@@TealBeal11 Yes, the AfD doesn't quite understand that their brand of right wing extremism did a lot of harm to the countries Germany invaded in WW2. In any case, extremists of any sort tend to have a very narrow band of acceptance so let them fall out with each other.

[@enis7x]

​@@nifrain9494She kicked her's father out of the party.

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

Up until 1944, getting into the SS is a massive privilege and such privilege accords a proportionately high barrier of entry. To start, any prospective candidate must pass the extremely high physical and memtal tests (higher than thr Wehrmacht) and must also present a complete stack of papers saying they are of pure blood (starting from 1700, also the year Frederick the Great granted Jews German citizenship). For this dude to say that the SS has farmers forced into service in its ranks is a strong insult, even for the SS because Himmler will not accept anything that cheapens his organization to that of the Wehrmacht...

[@RealUlrichLeland]

The SS also had to be actual members of the Nazi party. It wasn't like the army where anyone could be conscripted, it was a direct expression of support for Nazi ideology.

[@gidi3250]

"Following the Battle of France in 1940, Hitler authorised the enlistment of "people perceived to be of related stock", as Himmler put it, to expand the ranks. A number of Danes, Dutch, Norwegians, Swedes, and Finns volunteered to serve in the Waffen-SS under the command of German officers. Not all members of the SS-Germanischen Leitstelle (SS-GL) or the RHSA stressed the nationalistic tenets of the Nazi state with respect to the war and occupation but instead looked to pan-Germanic ideas that included disempowering the political elites, while at the same time, integrating Germanic elements from other nations into the Reich on the basis of racial equality." From 1940 non Germans could join and did, some did it out of fear of the Soviets (Ukrainian, Baltic's, Finish) and others did because they shared similar ideals but not the exact same Nazi one (Skandenavian, Indian/Pakistani)

[@mrvwbug4423]

Yup, the SS was all volunteer. All conscripts went into the regular army.

[@janhumiecki2827]

Yeah, I agree, but the way you say it implies that the bad thing he did was that he "Insulted the SS" 😂

[@James-dx8it]

The SS certainly began with very stringent restrictions on membership, but it's important to note how fast they went away. The first instances of conscription began in 1940, shortly after the official creation of the Waffen-SS as an organization within the greater SS. By 1942, in the occupied balkans every ethnic German was liable for conscription into the SS, months later efforts expanded to recruiting non ethnic Germans for various units, with conscription being implemented where recruits couldn't be had. By 43, The idea of the SS being relying primarily on recruiting goes out the window, with some areas proving much more successful, and others requiring conscription to a greater degree. Ultimately, Conscription existed for essentially the entire time the Wafffen-SS existed, with according to post war reports by the allies found ~1/3rd of the Waffen-SS was conscripted over the war, with a much higher proportion towards the end of the war. So yes, the SS absolutely forced farmers and other people into it ranks against their wishes, and the postwar international Military Tribunal recognized that fact and deliberately excluded conscripts for criminal status only due to wartime service in the Waffen-SS.

[@giantWario]

6:57 Wait what? How was this only something that you mentioned in passing at the end of another story? This is a huge deal, if this happens Bosnia will lose about half of it's territory!

[@LazarusWilhelm]

About time.

[@sizanogreen9900]

Well, if it happens peacefully and leads to a more representative and more effective model for everyone involves I'd be all for it personally. I somewhat doubt it would proceed smoothly tho.

[@maxmichalik4938]

@@LazarusWilhelm Rewarding genocide is kind of problematic. Luckily the -King of Bosnia- -Merkelite Overlord- -NATO Viceroy- High Representative won't ever allow such a thing to happen.

[@_jpg]

​@@maxmichalik4938 He is not Merkelite- That guy is from the CSU

[@maxmichalik4938]

@@_jpg Whoops. Even better!

[@mikhailkohadei-anang1551]

Being too facist for other facists is impressive, horrible, but impressive

[@98TrueRocker98]

"Anyone I dont like is a fascist"

[@thepatriarchy819]

As a fascist from Italy yes these people are too anti Semitic, vote reform or labour and that 1 year old artist is a joke!

[@98TrueRocker98]

@@thepatriarchy819 You arent fascist then lmao

[@BioAbner]

This comment has the same vibes as "everyone I dont like is a fascist".

[@thepatriarchy819]

@@98TrueRocker98 AfD are national socialist which is anti Semitic. Italian fascism is not.

[@joaovitormatos8147]

When Identity and Democracy says you're too far right, you are close to the moustache

[@HowardJack-oj5bo]

That TLDR Good News so wholesome, I do wish mainstream news outlets would cover it

[@dimsan5]

It's literally on the BBC , they did cover it.

[@ZrJiri]

Mother looking at modern art: "Lol, my toddler could have made that... wait a minute, I have an idea!"

[@bigmeowster99]

Me, waiting for the day when Ben Blisset says my name:😥

[@ramymaher9]

I like that you guys always make an effort to include some good news at the end. Really appreciated!

[@play4dc]

AfD are like "we're not Nazis, we're not socialists" Germans "What about the other Nazi stuff" AfD " we don't talk about that...we're not Nazis though, just nationalists"

[@98TrueRocker98]

"Anyone I dont like is a notsee"

[@cameronmcleod8419]

​@@98TrueRocker98 Man, coping hard across several comments. Hope your life gets better.

[@f_derik7719]

No, people who say that "The SS wasn't all bad" are Nazis

[@98TrueRocker98]

@@cameronmcleod8419 Your tears will taste delicious when Afd finally get parliamentary power 😛

[@mcboat3467]

​@@98TrueRocker98 hello comrade! Love from Texas oblast!

[@onenote6619]

Remember that - for very good reasons - Germany has some very serious anti-Nazi laws.

[@xbirdshorts5075]

Sure sounds like you have no idea how far do said laws stretch

[@anonymousbob8445]

You suspiciously are saying like it’s a bad thing… I’m not accusing you of saying it’s a bad thing… you make it seems so

[@saberhap2639]

why? are germans different from everyone else? like a race?

[@hoti47]

This very good reason is the "US".

[@Ruzzky_Bly4t]

​@@saberhap2639No, they have a history that they don't want to repeat.

[@20quid]

That awkward moment when you're too far-right for even the far-right.

[@AyranAncap1087]

Sounds like me lol

[@Ruzzky_Bly4t]

​@@AyranAncap1087 You're a fascist?

[@ericpeter4757]

Its less about being too far right and more about... well the history of tha far right in Germany and the French experience with it that lead to Le pens decision.

[@DGAMINGDE]

Looking forward for a significant amount of youtube commentors trying to argue the AfD isn't far-right after even the far-right European faction kicked them out (who MELONI isn't even a part of).

[@jackyex]

Meloni isn't a part of it because She wants to distance her Party (basically the Party of Mussolini) to the right and make it look more acceptable to the establishment, and kts working, Le Pen is doing the same with the RN but she doesnt want to join the ECR as both woman don't like each other. Well the AFD e more right than the fascists, that's quite the archivment!

[@98TrueRocker98]

Meloni isnt far right. Shes a sellout and fake right

[@BioAbner]

They arent far right because the unidimentional left right model makes no sense. The true far right are the ancaps. You should be talking high and low when talking about authoritarianism.

[@maxmichalik4938]

Didn't you hear? It's because all those right wingers are racist against Germans!

[@batrachian149]

Gotta love fascists trying to shift the Overton Window via YT comments.

[@shinydewott]

Who knew the ideology of “all other ethnicities but mine are subhumans” would not work with eachother all that well

[@goenndalfOne]

As a german I deeply apologize for these "politicians" ✋🏼

[@hendrx]

And people were suggesting the german right wasn't "actually right", look at them now

[@TheLetsComment]

Modern Art...

[@f-86zoomer37]

jealous? must make you feel so insecure that a non white child has been able to achieve way more and make way more money than you ever will in your entire life.

[@richardgreenwood7956]

The best thing about these controversial videos on tdlr channel are the comments section

[@Ruzzky_Bly4t]

Poor fascists crying that they won't be able to restore the third Reich after all 😢

[@gentlemandemon]

6 weeks of debates sound horrible

[@ForelliBoy]

They said the quiet part out loud

[@mathieuleader8601]

Krah really reminds me of the character of Herr Lipp from the comedy show the Leauge of Gentlemen.

[@mrvwbug4423]

He's like a real life Colonel Klink haha

[@rkeogh3467]

Saying this in general is a bad look for a politicians....saying this as a german politician is genuine insanity

[@thomasandrewclifford]

When Le Pen of all people thinks you went a little too far, you know you fcked up.

[@iainpattison903]

Well done Marine Le Pen for dumping AfD.

[@tiborklein5349]

Alternative title: The AfD was Punished for saying the Quiet Part out Loud.

[@darth3911]

Not really it was all truth. The recruiting system of the SS is to take the most promising individuals who are most emotionally strong and bring them into the SS. Many accounts by officers literally say their first few months of service are the most traumatic and then they just get used to it. What makes nazism bad isn’t their nationalist nor their socialist beliefs. Rather it’s their militaristic systems which can turn average people into monsters.

[@keanusolan2844]

When you are too far right for even the far right, you really need to start introspecting.

[@scotuslaurentius2763]

Why does he pronounce Taiwan so weirdly ... it's bizarre.

[@tt-ew7rx]

Weekly debates will cost the debaters time and opportunity to go and meet people around the country. Labour obviously does not want that. Sunak, with his apparent difficulty around common people, would want to go on TV instead of going around to meet people.

[@tobiasbauer198]

Frauke Petry Said about her former party, that it's a party without a real leadership. The leadership can not decide anything. They are completely dependent on the opinion of the members of the party. The members of the party however have become more and more radical.

[@oakstrong1]

The boy should give some credit to his parents. I'm sure it was a collaboration somehow, the parents making the choice of colour palette. 😄

[@wabakoen5548]

In the Netherlands, the left used to say exactly the same when Aantjes, a left-leaning Christian-democrat was revealed to have been forcible recruited into the SS, on pain if death.

[@imvine]

When you are too extremist for the extremists

[@Phantomgaming154]

Kinda like the Islamic state.

[@Jagzeplin]

as a Murican i dont know jack shit about british politics but i will say that wanting fewer debates to my eyes looks like something you do if you think your "side" has a weaker case

[@ryandanngetich2524]

Exactly like why ? 😂😂😂

[@johndurham6172]

Do Socialist ever have the same issues when talking about Stalin 🤔

[@lamnguyenanh2205]

Except you are a tanki or follow his idea/thing. They just going for the same line: he was a monster or a true socialist

[@delos2279]

About time...

[@affel6559]

He is 100000000 % correct. Child soldiers don't have the same moral agency as committed ideologues. Go cry about it people.

[@hannofranz7973]

100000000 per cent disqualifies this comment.

[@affel6559]

@@hannofranz7973 Ok, stop giving to charities that try to save African child soldiers then if they are so evil.

[@dallysinghson5569]

Where's Farage where you need him? His clan said the silent part loud lol

[@blueblack3591]

Interesting

[@MrCalls1]

4:00 please refrain from calling this “such a short campaign” this is a long campaign for Britain. 6weeks is the maximum. We wisely chose to not spend all our time dealing with elections rathe than government. Please present the length in its national context not compared to America, seeing as by most countries standards 6weeks is pretty normal.

[@getnohappy]

Fascist party: supports fascism Other fascist parties: 😮

[@MrBurnsExcellent]

so original

[@arthurschildgen5522]

If you stopped calling everyone to the right of Bernie Sanders a fascist, you might start to see why this isn't so surprising.

[@jeongbun2386]

Im surprised the comments arent all agreeing with the AfD like they do on TLDR EU 💀

[@Ruzzky_Bly4t]

Never noticed many people supporting the AfD on the European channel

[@user-co2of9cm7l]

As a german i just want to say sorry for there still being people like the AfD. We don't like them either.

[@user-df1ns1ob8y]

Although they are polling at around 20%, most of those other 80% are most likely strongly opposed to them, which is good.

[@eyvindr.]

What is there not to like? If you dont have a party like afd in power soon, you will not have a Germany. It is obvious that ethnic Germans are being replaced

[@eyvindr.]

Don't be sorry. Germans cant be shamed for eternity. Afd is exactly what germany needs

[@_jpg]

​@@eyvindr. NO, they are most definitely not what we need. Far from it. During a time of global tensions, a small-minded, nationalist, euro-sceptic, xenophobe party is the last thing we could possibly need.

[@ChadThundercock-cn3ve]

​@@_jpg During times when Islamists are marching in Hamburg *this month* and women are facing higher charges for posting rape statistics than *literal rapist* it is time for a change yes

[@Jack-sq6xb]

Bro ive seen this one before

[@monkeeseemonkeedoo3745]

That baby is crazy, couldn't think of a pun but wooow he's talented, assuming he made those

[@TIATAC]

Mission accomplished boys

[@kiritomato1908]

Please Le Pen was just salty because she feared that the AFD woud woud have more seats in the new parlament and woud take her leading position. 😂

[@sav5127]

It is interesting how low impact the good news are compared to the bad news.

[@damorcro2403]

How on earth can an Englishman's Dutch pronunciation be better than his German? 😂 kudos on the Dutch! 🇧🇪

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

Dutch is closer to English than German. Maybd that is why.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

It wasn’t just the ss that carried out the [KZbin DOESNT LIKE THAT WORD]. The Wehrmacht and other groups participated too

[@ModestSyla]

lmao, the state of art... a toddler can do it better

[@CableB_]

Alternative for Deutschland? more like Aryans for Deutschland

[@Noric.Morava]

I mean…there should be room for discussion and nuance about the causes for people joining the ss. I also do agree that there might be a few who were not monsters but simply too indoctrinated to see beyond the propaganda. That being said, this was not genuine discussion, but a very dangerous political statement.

[@Unknownstatus_521]

I wonder who could have foreseen this? 😂

[@teddybearington3]

❤❤❤

[@tnsocialist1257]

There is one china.

[@Tlhague998]

If your sentence starts with "Not all SS members" jusy stop talking.

[@koenigkorczak]

this is much too late

[@igeljaeger]

Guess im not voting then

[@orrorsaness5942]

you can vote for the pro monarchist party

[@maxmichalik4938]

Thank you for your restraint.

[@TealBeal11]

Individual voters don't directly vote for MEPs in the EU parliament.

[@arthurschildgen5522]

You can still vote for the AfD in the elections, the MEPs you elect will just be non-inscrits.

[@united_europe]

Canis canem edit.

[@TheedreadedSensei]

Damn wish i had rich well connected parents so i could make bank at the age 1 doing what every other 1 yr would do in the same situation 😂

[@tapeshsharma9254]

Bruh if that statement came from some other country in Europe, it might have been somewhat ignorable but that guy was German 💀💀

[@padriandusk7107]

Well, SS wasn't born in Mexico.

[@AmericanRevanchism]

What he said is not wrong. This is like asking a Russian whether all Red Army soldiers were criminals and the Russian says "Not all of them were criminals." Yes, many of them were criminals, but 100% every one of them? No.

[@flok462]

But every single one of them was guilty somehow. The cook of Bin Laden may not have killed anyone but when he gets killed in a raid he's not an innocent bystander either. The SS were the ones responsible for most of the Nazi crimes. If you say not all were criminals, you also must provide the context in which they were the worst scum in history too.

[@CrniWuk]

Even extreme nationalists know that nazis are "bad". Should tell you everything you need to know.

[@gabortoth3644]

Well technically he was not wrong.."The SS (Schutzstaffel) was divided into Allgemeine-SS (“General SS”, the bureaucrats and general organization), Waffen-SS (“Weaponized SS”, the paramilitary organization) and Totenkobfverbande (“Skull Formations”, concentration camp guards)"...Still as a politician you can't say this as most people have zero knowledge about anything (anybody knew there is a Waffen-SS officer buried in Arlington with medals from 3 different army? (Finnish, German and American) His name is Lauri Törni.)

[@hendrx]

I was saying, he's not actually wrong, but the lack of self-awareness is insane, being on the afd you're already moving on thin ice, to do that interview was plain stupid.

[@Horror689]

Remember the NSDAP didnt win until 1933 We still have 9 years

[@willhall4037]

Vot a Vanker! Ya?

[@ThomasBoyd-gx9wr]

AFD party Germany like SNP Scottish government under Both Swinney. Did actually say that yes. Appreciate your work Tldr news wish was my MP.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Except on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but not enough for horseshoe theory to apply. But both are poorly run comedies of errors.

[@cgt3704]

Also in Romania, a citizen was arrested by the authorities because he was actually a spy working for Russia. His job was to take pictures of NATO bases from Dobrogea and the equipments there for over 2 years. He was arrested and is sent for imterrogation

[@djtomoy]

Lol Germany, you guys are krazy

[@ezkymo8725]

I just want to add a bit of context. He was talking about how some of the S S were people forced into the role. He was never justifying their actions Multiple media and news outlets just cut the single sentence out in order to frame him as some Hitleer apologist. The whole thing is basically just one giant plot to cause infighting among the right-wingers of Europe and it's working

[@united_europe]

It's not a plot if he and Höcke use SS speech tough. Or if Krahs manager is a spy employed by China. There is no conspiracy, these people are just bad.

[@010Jordi]

25.000 Dutch men joined the waffen ss and only a small part committed what today could be considered war crimes. most just fought against communism

[@united_europe]

Saying the SS didn't commit war crimes is the most dilusional thing I've heared in a long time. Look up Sühnebefehl and Kommissarbefehl. The SS also provided members of the Totenkopfverbände, who operated the concentration camps.

[@sktt1488]

Wjy germans always go too much with almost everything?

[@lipingrahman6648]

Oh, Germany never change.

[@jennatransgirl]

Right wing parties agree with adf, but they can't say it in public. A party like vlaams belang tries to get the image that they are not far right and agreeing to points like adf. Would them loose votes, because Flemish people are maybe anti migrant but they hate facist

[@philsophkenny]

❤

[@plasmacannon1198]

The AfD like to say they’re not far right, but that argument got quite hard after the other far right parties said they’re too far right 😂😂

[@overtonpendulum2071]

They're moderate centrists. and I mean that 100% seriously.

[@mrvwbug4423]

@@overtonpendulum2071 and nobody is going to take that answer seriously. FDP are moderate centrists by German standards, not AfD.

[@mrvwbug4423]

When LePen says you're letting your inside voice out a little too much you know you jumped the shark haha

[@overtonpendulum2071]

@@mrvwbug4423 Le pen Is a multiracialist.

[@overtonpendulum2071]

@@mrvwbug4423 A few decades ago most in Germany would agree with AfD.

[@stormillion5002]

Oh nooo my racist authoritarian friend is being a racist authoritarian 😭😭

[@KommandoCraftLP]

I don't really get what all the fuss is about Krah's statement. Don't get me wrong, this guy is certainly an idiot and many of his political stances are ridicilously bad, him also being a russian/chinese asset, but this one is just kinda speaking plainly albeit naively not defaulting to political talk that doesn't mean anything. More context: He was asked about a statement of his that "Germans should be proud of their ancestors" if that applied to SS members too and replied that, while there certainly was a high percentage of war criminals among them, it should be judged individually based on what they did. He went further talking about his wife's family, who were Germans from hungary and forced with the decision of either hungarian army and the likely prospect of death or the SS. While these statements aren't particularly eloquent and definitely not smart to fall for such a push on a foreign newspaper even, they are true though. (well, as a general thing, idk about his wife's family tbh) The SS started voluntary but towards the end of the war people could also get drafted or pressured into it. Would you be able to dodge nazi draft even if that meant risking your life and the one of your loved ones?

[@mnm1273]

They aren't true. You shouldn't be proud of your SS ancestors.

[@florianfelix8295]

Dude for the Hungarian Jews it didn’t matter, also there still was choice for the Hungarian army you say?

[@KommandoCraftLP]

@@florianfelix8295 there was the choice for Hungarian army, but also the fear of being used as cannon fodder if you're ethnically German there. And not all SS units were Totenkopf divisions (guarding the concentration camps), part of the administrative branch controlling the camps, in the many squads that were involved in mass executions before the holocaust got ramped up or took part in any of the other countless other atrocities of the SS. It wasn't a club where you had to prove you had blood on your hands before getting in. Some members really were just soldiers or even just administrators of everyday life. There are even ones who defected, like at Castle Itter where one fought with an Austrian army guy and a handful of americans against other SS to rescue some french POWs.

[@crocodileguy4319]

Of course mfing ekre voted to keep them in, absolutely why not

[@leftoflibra]

This was literally trumps argument with the proud boys saying good people on both sides lmao

[@dmhowcroft]

Ah, yes, the uplifting story of an infant being exploited for a publicity stunt...

[@iambicpentakill971]

Yes, that poor child being forced to fingerpaint against their will 🙄

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

I dunno. He could feed his family and build a career from this.

[@waantut]

That's what I thought You Tube is against allowing truth to be posted

[@Alexander_1999_]

Germany acusing other countries of genocide is the definition o hypocricy, not just because of the Holocaust but also because of their active support for Zionistan's genocide in Gaza.

[@ulala9729]

If labour Party comes to power in UK, UK became first islamic country in EU

[@padriandusk7107]

Shows how much you know avout both UK and EU. UK is far from critical in that aspect, and isn't in EU since some time now. Don't ever take risk wandering outside: you could get lost in your own lawn.

[@ulala9729]

@@padriandusk7107 but labour Party is a pro islamic jihadi party

[@ad_astra5]

Srpska might kick off? Great

[@fbajk]

How is it in any way shape or form controversial to say not all SS members were perpetrators? What about the 15 year old boys that were recruited into the SS by force and deployed to the eastern front & within Berlin? Are you insinuating these kids were criminals? were they perpetrators? Where is your decency?

[@_jpg]

You are, unfortunately, naive, if you think he said that without any intention of revisionist agenda. His party is known for downplaying the terror of the NS regime and the Shoah.

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

It's really one step away from trying to make all the things they did look good.

[@florianfelix8295]

dude it just doesn’t matter to tell the story in a public setting as a politician.

[@fbajk]

@@florianfelix8295He did not say in a public setting, he was asked a question in an interview with La Republica about his personal view of the collective guilt of the German people regarding the atrocities of WW2.

[@fbajk]

⁠@@_jpgIf you think breaking the shackles of collective guilt that we presently still carry is downplaying the atrocities of the Nazi regime, you are lost. I am German, and I don’t want to carry the guilt for what my grandparents did, I want our country to progress, I want our country to flourish, I want to envision a future where we can finally just be free. Why are the Dutch allowed to be free of their collective guilt after slavery? Why don’t we constantly talk about the collective guilt all Russians should have after the reign of the USSR, why is it that when a US politician makes a remark saying they won the battle against the natives for the land fair and square, no one attempts to destroy his career and diminish his party to ruins?

[@plasmacannon1198]

Daily briefing of Uk election every day seems completely overkill. It’s not that interesting guys. Max 2 more times. Mid point and results