In this video, we look at the World of Dragon Ball in more detail.
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@ryszakowy4 ай бұрын
*goku looks at logic and reason in dragon ball super goku: i'm going to break you, like a kit-kat bar.
@freddypedraza20664 ай бұрын
Vegeta: he can't violate the laws of physics if he's too stupid to understand tham
@itousatha53594 ай бұрын
Goku performed a 5 leayers into outerversal feat just for funzies 💀
@EliaMiliteChristi4 ай бұрын
Shits and giggles fr 💀
@thenippletwister34574 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as "outerversal."
@QuasiGame04 ай бұрын
@mistersadfaceman4257 when you are outside the universe, or the universe has been erased but you still exist..
@ayonhussainforever93904 ай бұрын
Funzies>>>>>>>>>Logic
@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje22184 ай бұрын
U know transcending space time isn't the same thing as transcending the concept of space time right?bc something tells me u saw a guidebook saying heaven transcended space and time and u immediately taught Goku destroying heaven is an outerversal feat , when its just 5d😊
@waleedahmed87594 ай бұрын
Your titles are turning philosophical
@Normal_user_coniven4 ай бұрын
Every story play with time is ruined.
@theevilben6664 ай бұрын
Whis said he restored trunks future to just before zamasu happened and thus there is 2 future Trunks and Mai's now
@Edmitsu4 ай бұрын
And the manga came up for a reason to never have Future Trunks come back. Bulma says something about the Time Machine having trouble keeping locked on to his timeline. That the next to and from trip before their last fight with Zamasu had to be their last. But then that’s contradicting to what we see in both endings when he goes back to a past version of his timeline (I know this creates a new timeline but it’s born from the doomed timeline Bulma said she couldn’t track anymore) time travel hurts my head.
@commandershepard61894 ай бұрын
Time is often misunderstood... It's not the ticking of the clock, a dimension, or a single position of everything. Time is a individual moment or a set of moments where momentum, inertia, and potiential energy(ies) are present. Time is a description of values that equate the total points of occurances from an naturaly undifined point in space (these points can only be defined by a person or group of persons). It is relative... On this note, the Omi king, Zeno, exits where everything else was errased. Because of his existence, that time line exist. To point, everything within Zeno is moving, so time still exist... This is why Goku and crew could still move within that universe. Albeit the universe is alot smaller now. It's only them and the time machine that exist in it.
@thenippletwister34574 ай бұрын
@@Kyuubey0406 Which means that the feat in question is still nonsense, as "moving" in a timeless void is an oxymoron.
@Noah-bi4ll4 ай бұрын
@@thenippletwister3457Not exactly. Movement within a timeless void gives it a time, it may seem strange but that's because for a moment, or several moments, it's not technically a timeless void, even though it is. It's more along the principles of Shrodingers Cat in the Box, only the box isn't observed externally, so time doesn't have to be linear, nor does it require form. You are thinking of time as a 3rd Dimensional Concept with a 3rd Dimensional Understanding
@Noah-bi4ll4 ай бұрын
@@thenippletwister3457time, in that essence only actually exists because we have a 4th dimension giving the 3rd it's linear form. We are definitely observing every aspect of this time, and that's because something else is observing it. Just like atoms change their own nature while being observed, we are changing their reality just by observing it.
@norbertgarcia61844 ай бұрын
Gokus insane from earth.
@Edentical1014 ай бұрын
He means sayain
@chameleonx92534 ай бұрын
The time machine tried to return to a universe that didn't exist anymore, so instead it appeared in the void. It's like in a video game where you save your game in a DLC zone and then delete the DLC, you end up just floating in white space (or your file is corrupted, but you know what I mean).
@CrystalGreymon4 ай бұрын
Where does the Universe as we know it exist? Think of the Universe like a building. Zeno destroyed the building so the space it once occupied can now freely be passed through. In that respect, it's the same. The universe was destroyed so the space (for lack of a better term) was freed up. As for how the Time Machine returned to Zeno, as you say, it's due to the data it had for its last known location BUT with how Trunks and co kept hopping back and forth through time, the you notice that the timelines run simultaneously. It's not like the Time Chamber where you have Time Dilation to factor in. A minute in the past and a minute in the future are tracked equally. And with how Trunks returned Goku to the point after Zeno erased the universe, the time that Zeno could still perceive played out for him. Goku and Trunks had left for what? 5? 10 minutes? It effectively used co-ordinates stored in memory to find a location even if it no longer existed.
@devilshooter126m84 ай бұрын
Great video here's my thing Zeno CANNOT be King of everything why, cause there are 2 and possibly infinite of him. So Zeno is only king of everything within his personal timeline...
@lalo4864 ай бұрын
I think if Zeno isn't the king of everything it's zalama it would make sense since the power of the dragon balls are based of the power of the namekian that created them and as far as it was stated super shenron can grant any wish which probably means zalama is all powerful
@hxppythxughts71494 ай бұрын
True because time is still superior than zeno since he literally still bound with timeline, proven by he exists in his own timeline. Meaning zeno is barely 5D being.
@uriahthegreat50044 ай бұрын
I dont see how this is soo hard to believe when he literally broke hit's time skip
@titaniumstar17724 ай бұрын
Because hits time skip was ki powered, and as every dragon ball fan knows "Power > hax" goku was stronger than hit so hits time skip stopped working on him, completely different from the concept of time and space not existing
@Inferno-ki7qg4 ай бұрын
@@titaniumstar1772 fax
@uriahthegreat5004Ай бұрын
@@titaniumstar1772 that’s a very weird way to try and downplay Goku ngl.
@titaniumstar1772Ай бұрын
@@uriahthegreat5004 Please tell me this is a joke comment
@ktp014 ай бұрын
Only trunks could have traveled to that space since the navigation was saved in the ship, everything is gone, but zeno, zeno was still there when the time ring broke so despite the timeline being gone things can still exist in the empty space and trunks traveling back their wouldnt create another one.
@lordnoah_420_cisneros94 ай бұрын
Elder kai needs to unlock everyones hidden power
@cameron-yo6zp4 ай бұрын
I chose to believe everyone has there own field of time they take everywhere with them, probably for the purpose of preventing some temporal anomaly in cases such as this
@Alvarxp4 ай бұрын
Gotta make your videos longer broski because they too short and I actually enjoy your videos !
@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje22184 ай бұрын
I see this feat as an outlier bc i can guarantee that creators weren't thinking when they drew this , this is the same guys who taught goku was galaxy level
@Xeno70014 ай бұрын
So whats the problem? Zeno sama erased wverything invluding physics and logic Thats why goku could get in breath talk etc 😂
@isaacbell51564 ай бұрын
It also stated in dragon ball super website that Zeno erased future trunks timeline.
@thenippletwister34574 ай бұрын
It's not a speed feat at all for 2 reasons. 1.) "inaccessible speed" and "immeasurable speed" are generic nonsensical "faster than infinite!!!!!" tiers invented by power scalers who love hyperwanking and know nothing of actual science or mathematics. No different than dimensional tiering, which is also nonsensical garbage. In reality, infinite speed is as far as it goes. Nothing is faster than infinite speed. The ability to travel through time has nothing to do with speed, as the speed formula cannot describe such a feat in the first place. 2.) "Moving" in an area with no spacetime is an oxymoron. If you moved, then by definition a displacement occurred, which requires both space (because you literally changed position) and time (because you are no longer where you once were.) Any character who moves in a "spaceless" or "timeless" realm therefore is simply operating on cartoon magic and cannot be scaled off this feat alone.
@khaibeststudio4 ай бұрын
It’s a fictional story, things can just not follow the rules of logic like a “timeless” realm. Though I can agree with the part of vs wikis being goofy (more subjective than anything).
@hxppythxughts71494 ай бұрын
Well unless said character transcends both time and space...
@thenippletwister34574 ай бұрын
@@khaibeststudio I agree that authors can ignore the rules of logic, but that simply gives us an oxymoron. Phrases like _"He moved in a timeless void!"_ do not actually mean anything (at least not anything coherent). It is literally the same as saying "Joe Biden both is and is not the president of the US." Yes, an author can choose to write that, but there is nothing to make sense of or to "power scale" because it's literally meaningless gibberish. The only possible way to make sense of such a statement is to simply say that the author is stupid and wrong, and go with one interpretation or the other. You can't go with both however, because they're mutually exclusive. The moment Joe Biden is the president, he can't not be the president. Likewise, if Joe Biden isn't the president, then he can't also be the president at the same time. That something doesn't follow the rules of logic is essentially equivalent to saying that it's a word salad where the author just uses words incorrectly. This is one of the biggest flaws that most power scalers make. (I'm not saying you're doing it, just talking about the community in general btw) They do not, or often even refuse to, understand the difference between nomological impossibilities and logical impossibilities. This mostly comes down due to the fact that none of them understand what logic even is in the first place. Coherence and meaning have nothing to do with reality or fiction. I can invent fictional statments right now, but if they're not coherent you won't be able to derive any meaning from them.
@thenippletwister34574 ай бұрын
@@hxppythxughts7149 "Transcending spacetime" is not a well-defined concept. All you're essentially conveying is that the character in question exists outside the universe. But you don't actually explain what you mean by that. Are they in a different universe? Are they in some spiritual ream? Are they in some type of superspace realm that holds the universe together? And more importantly: How does this relate to velocity?
@khaibeststudio4 ай бұрын
@@thenippletwister3457 i mean fiction itself doesn’t seem to abide by a singular course of logic and coherence. They aren’t real, existent things which doesn’t make them bound by our conventional ways of existence. They are bits of the human imagination which we experiment with. Though the incoherence of fictional statements can and do get iffy even when we try and understand them. Unless the author is really strict with how their want their work to work, I don’t see why they can’t do smth like that.
@gilbertodepiento85214 ай бұрын
I don't understand. If Omni King obliterated future Trunks's timeline then how Mai and Trunks, being part of that timeline, didn't get erased???
@Izelor4 ай бұрын
Don't think. Just accept. DBS story is garbage.
@ryszakowy4 ай бұрын
script says so
@bumblebower15294 ай бұрын
@@Izelorfr dbs is literally one of the worse anime’s ever I like to imagine the series really ended at z heck even gt I wouldn’t mind it
@Izelor4 ай бұрын
@@bumblebower1529 true. There is absolutely no point in DBS existing, other than milking the Dragonball franchise even more.
@VXGaming4 ай бұрын
Future 11 universes - where did Zeno go? Universe 7 just becomes the new hyperbolic time chamber.
@matthewpletsch75234 ай бұрын
We're assuming that the emptiness runs on the same rules as a world with time and space.
@lynnusuk20924 ай бұрын
Goku probably does still have enough air in his lungs to breathe out as the medium that can transmit sound waves I guess. It also shows that while Goku along with the Z fighters can’t indefinitely breathe in a no oxygen environment they aren’t one shotted by it either and can last a while longer than people expect.
@theoneandonly-lu5cf4 ай бұрын
He had immeasurable speed in base in coolers revenge
@leoclaw794 ай бұрын
What happened to all the angels
@roberthelm874 ай бұрын
yeah maybe because Zeno was still* there still perceiving time, they could exist in the timeline aswell. once anything/everything that can or could perceive time was absent maybe then and only then would the timeline cease to exist. "Schrödinger's cat" Zeno is the cat, maybe?
@ImJeremyHD4 ай бұрын
wait. The video had another title, or am I going crazy?
@ithoughtso.70164 ай бұрын
This is what i always talk about lmao goku is above time
@boomboombaby91404 ай бұрын
It’s a cartoon bro you don’t have to try to explain it , the main goal of dragon ball is to sell toys , you will drive your mad trying to use logic 😂😂😂😂
@briandyer68094 ай бұрын
It was still a timeline as long as Zeno existed there because there was something there experiencing time. When Zeno left with them there was nothing and no one left to experience time . As long as Zeno was there then they had a point of time to lock on too. Now there is no time there therefore no timeline.
@narrativeless4044 ай бұрын
No it doesn't really It's just like the Void, Antivoid or any other type of void(besides Gojo's domain expansion lol, but Goku still destroys it) Anyone can move when time doesn't exist, because basic interactions do still work, just the state doesn't update because there's nothing to update This isn't a feat most likely
@josephkereama24224 ай бұрын
Timey Wimey stuff looks like the o king erased that timeline meaning the future is not set and may not end up at the end of DBZ? The future has changed???
@master_chief7234 ай бұрын
and people still think Saitama wins XD
@jsmaelsartor5954 ай бұрын
It not works like that, for an exemple hyperion in the marvel comics survived from a collision of 2 universes and for a period he was literally in the nothingness, it should be impressive? No or at least, it is impressive but only for the fact that he survived from the collision of the universes without taking damage but for the rest there is nothing more to say about this feat and it doesn't prove that hyperion is extraordinary about something excluding the durability, the same for goku, if even the time machine can be there and they can move in that location (or non location at this point 😂) it not proves something about goku's speed
@dkgaming24234 ай бұрын
Goku blitzs sonic
@AlphonseWeebay4 ай бұрын
All day
@thenippletwister34574 ай бұрын
Considering the fact that Sonic moves at a speed of 20 - 50 meters per second in 99% of all his appearances, that statement is probably accurate.
@jdrmanmusiqking4 ай бұрын
Bruh youre injecting logic into something that has no logic. Goku being there is just a thing that happened. Gving speed feats for this makes no sense bro youre reaching like stretch Armstrong They simply did not think about what was happening and wrote what they wanted
@Unknown-mf7wh4 ай бұрын
Go/jo doesn´t have a chance, just that shrimple
@h0llyw00dhoward74 ай бұрын
Time=Exist x Presence/Consciousness. As long as there is a being in existence time is present. Omni King was in existence so the time and space between the travel to the Omni King has existence. How do you not know this stuff. I’m just trying to sound smart lol 😂
@GabeM24 ай бұрын
Stored datar
@stanleech6664 ай бұрын
all this did was add to Goku's list of feats 💀
@maximillianoorosco-randhaw93364 ай бұрын
First
@tyrannosaurusrex46004 ай бұрын
Toyotaro and super ruined dragon ball
@jdrmanmusiqking4 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Unknown-mf7wh4 ай бұрын
this was scripted by toriyama and dragon ball was this way since the beggining, don´t lie to yourself