Why Goku makes NO SENSE in Dragon Ball Super

In this video, we look at the World of Dragon Ball in more detail.

[@alatusedits]

Bro puts random circles and arrows on his thumbnail💀😭

[@SaiyanScholar]

It's pointing at his base form hair which is what the video is about lol

[@cyberdemon6517]

who said thats a bad thing

[@BackroomsDogeScp173]

Bro I was gonna say that in thumbnail, it meant Goku's base hair 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@dylancox2157]

I get your point, most of the other videos with the same thing point to nothing to do with the video

[@ChrisDeVarro]

Lol

[@manupbritain5232]

You made a mistake, you're counting 10 and 30 Earth minutes. If you realise this was Frieza minutes Goku's recovery time makes sense.

[@dreadrath]

With Frieza minutes on our side, recovery from injuries is actually a pretty quick and optimistic process.

[@doct1400]

Is Frieza the one who told Erin what Attack on Titan: Final Season, meant?

[@cyberdemon6517]

yea goku's lock of hair under freeza's shin makes no sense

[@monkey7808]

😂😂 XD

[@dreadrath]

I know, its like, what, two inches of separation. Any closer and Goku would have to stop the match to brush his hair back in place.

[@soul8648]

you also forgot to mention that Frieza gives Goku some of his powers just like Goku did in the Namek saga

[@DanielKieft-ju3ek]

He did it so he doesn't owe goku anymore

[@soul8648]

@@DanielKieft-ju3ek that's what I LEGIT meant

[@christopherballero866]

For me the Saiyans from Universe 6 needed a massive boost just to be slightly relevant but it made no sense as they were rookies compared to Goku & Vegeta. Goku & Vegeta could've easily knocked out all but 5-10 opponents at most from the start using Blue. If Goku & Vegeta went blue from the start they would've wiped out the vast majority of the fighters

[@inferstrike3544]

They can't use blue for that long.

[@SporkyMcFly]

​@@inferstrike3544 They can use it for 10 seconds, which is all it takes to wipe the floor with many of those mofos.

[@inferstrike3544]

@@SporkyMcFly 10 seconds?

[@PyroTheRabbit]

@@SporkyMcFly remember Hit? And Vegeta promised Cabba

[@SporkyMcFly]

@@inferstrike3544 4 hours on screen.

[@EumelaninKnight]

The only way DBZ/S power levels makes sense to me, is if fighters may become more powerful while being exposed to stronger fighters. A ki limit infection of sorts. Power level in the hundred and spending time training, fighting or just sensing those in the thousands? Now your power level potential is unlocked. In the thousands and meet some millions.. So on and so forth. That would explain the insanity of the Namek saga as well as Master Roshi, pre-DB and the insane power increase to the TOP. The only thing that seems to counter this effect is stress and hopelessness(e.g. the future Trunk timeline)

[@iZetto1]

that's actually a great theory for why the power levels become bs

[@DragonUltraMaster]

Goku in general doesn't make sense in super at all. DBZ Goku was so much more mature and serious compared to the childish and annoying behavior he does now. He has shown some serious moments, but that's way less that anything else.

[@oldmanjesus9855]

Goku seems more serious in DBZ because he's always on edge and active for most of the series, and he becomes colder when transformed into super Sayian which is another thing he does a lot during DBZ. It has nothing to do with his character being changed. Every time Goku is relaxed he goofs off, that's who he is. He seems less serious in DBS because there is way more down time in super than in Z. You'd know that if you actually paid attention to the show, but hey "DBZ fans don't watch their own show" I guess.

[@mushroom11g55]

Goku in Z was just as childish. He gave Cell a senzu bean and let Majin Buu live for the FUN of it. Goku doesn't care anymore because he knows there's ALWAYS a way out, that's why he's so relaxed. DB is only as hard as Goku and Vegeta want it to be, look at Trunks for example. If he was the leader of the Z Fighters, DragonBall would be a mini series and each arc would last maybe 1-5 episodes. But because Goku and Vegeta want to challenge themselves, we have the DB that we have, the Goat of anime/manga

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

I have a theory as to why Z Goku is much more competent and mature. Goku honestly just rarely showed up in Z. He fought Raditz, dies and is side-lined, comes back after Nappa's rampage to finish him and fight Vegeta. Then he's out and Krillin and Gohan have to fend for themselves on Namek, teaming up with Vegeta. Goku finally shows up after they're just about dead, the Ginyu Force is wiped out but Goku's down again and the others have to fight Frieza on their own until he comes back again. Goku fights 19, heart virus through the rest of the Android Saga and most of the Cell Saga, fights Cell once, steps down for Gohan. Then, of course, he's dead for half of the Buu Saga and mostly a non-factor after one fight with Fat Buu until much later on. Super Goku, by contrast, is around all the time. If he was just as mature and competent, the stakes would be greatly reduced.

[@edwardlomeli5657]

@@VGamingJunkieVTI mean as goku said he wanted them to take care of him . He knew he kept leaving and wouldn’t be there

[@kawaraianimeslayer4710]

The powerscaling is outawack but accurate, jesus

[@user-nd7rd8jo6h]

Zenkai boosts hit different in super

[@azimuddin1890]

(Anime)

[@kamenrangerzeo8251]

Plot armor thy name is goku.

[@sonicgen20]

Goku must have gotten quite a couple of zenkai boosts during the tournament.

[@Snow-c6e]

This might be a hot take I think that ssj2 Should had been the final transformation I think in the story goku and vegeta Are at a point in where they don't need to have transformations. But the over all writing for super is bad Anime and manga

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Agreed, honestly.

[@Xcelsia]

I hate that they turned Ultra Instinct into just another power-up. It's not supposed to be a transformation. It's supposed to be the ultimate martial arts technique, allowing one's body to react without the mind having to think about it. Whis emphasized this to both Goku and Vegeta on numerous occasions. It's what he was training them to achieve. It shouldn't make Goku any stronger than he already is; it should only allow him to react more quickly and fluidly. But if an opponent is stronger and faster than he is, then it won't matter how quickly he can react, because his opponent is still quicker than his own body can move. Unless Goku was already on a similar level as Jiren (which he clearly wasn't), Ultra Instinct shouldn't have allowed him to fight on par with Jiren. The entire way they handled it was stupid. They took something that was extremely cool and interesting on paper, and just turned it into yet another generic power-up transformation.

[@ceekill]

In the manga after the TOP arc, going into the Moro Arc, they make it more into a technique than a power up. Which is more fitting for Goku, I agreed him transforming into Master Ultra Instinct takes away the uniqueness of it. From what I read online. Jiren wasn’t that much stronger than Goku. He used his power way more efficiently and effectively than Goku. Ultra instinct was just a way for Goku to used his power in a similar way. The anime did it for plot reasons.

[@TaeSunWoo]

(Clicks notification with interest)

[@noturproblemford]

Only 2 minutes in. It's not that he's stronger than he was before the recovery. It's he knows how they fight. So he's coming into it at a much much more experienced Master level.

[@calebdonaldson8770]

You're damn right it makes no sense. Goku's stamina throughout the Tournament is absolutely BULLSHIT. They talked a big game about needing to conserve energy and not recklessly powering up, and yet Goku & Vegeta use their strongest forms constantly, even against fodder opponents. There's no way in hell Goku unlocked a form revered by the gods of destruction, and mastered it in like 40 mins. And the way he unlocked it makes no sense! It was never explained! He should've died from the spirit bomb, point blank.

[@PyroTheRabbit]

So goku after recovery got a huge zenkai?

[@Avonski]

Counting minutes and power levels really made dbz a little bit ridicules

[@timothyfrasier8218]

Well there is a theory that thanks to the wish from his father allowed him to reaches feats that normally he wouldn't be able to.

[@loveinthevalley]

Goku blue vs kale originally, same as pre tournament. He wasn't pushing himself

[@harikiranv8580]

Yeah they had to jump leaps and bounds only for vegeta to tell jiren wasnt that strong at all.

[@Svnfold]

Aw the introduction 👀

[@uiaris7770]

why do you keep reuploading clips from your previous videos? Has something happened, cuz i cant even REMEMBER the last time you did a completely UNIQUE video.

[@mirerito]

You also forget that in the manga during the flashbacks with Bardock in the Granola Arc, Bardock had made a wish with the small dragon balls that Goku always succeeds in battle, thus giving Goku his never ending plot armor.

[@user-ks1ml6yt8t]

Why are your thumbnails just random arrows and circles now 😭

[@gravethestampede3454]

You would have a harder time of finding stuff that does make sense in Super than you would the opposite.

[@TheGreatAndYOU]

Super art style is so bad lmao

[@rubberballoonlover5471]

Agreed. You'd think with the advancements with animation technology, you'd think it'd AT LEAST look better.

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@rubberballoonlover5471the only major change was the switch from cel to digital coloring. The animators jobs are virtually unchanged

[@rubberballoonlover5471]

@@crestofhonor2349 Ah. I see. I guess the reason why they haven't brought Cell back is because he's VERY hard to animate with his spots.

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@rubberballoonlover5471 that’s not the reason. There are ways of making it easier thanks to digital coloring without having the animator draw every single spot each time and making sure they don’t change to much from frame to frame. A lot of modern digital coloring is heavily dependent on the digital compositing process and that can make a show either look like an early 2000s digital show to what we got with DBS Broly, any Ufotable production, and current One Piece. Much of it is down to who’s involved, preproduction, and how much time is spent on each episode. Super’s production was so badly rushed and only had 2 months of preparation before the first episode aired where normally shows are given 6 months to 1.5 years of production before airing.

[@rubberballoonlover5471]

@@crestofhonor2349 Ah. I see.

[@CrystalGreymon]

The Title: "Goku makes no sense!" The Video: "God damn, I love this man!"

[@TheUnknownScholar777]

indeed

[@SaiyanScholar]

BROKEN!

[@LuisAyala-v5j]

Remember he was fighting and recovering while fighting caulifla and kale, bc ofc they weren’t strong enough to outright beat him yet, so as they were learning goku was gradually getting stronger and recovering. Then there’s vegeta. Vegeta just has piccolos endurance.

[@MegaManMayCry]

It’s that second wind that pushes you

[@MetaITurtle]

Goku basically powered up just like Broly did in the movie. So is Goku like Broly in a way? He fought Jiren and other strong opponents pushing him to get stronger. Thats how i see it

[@mpangamponga1514]

This why we need power levels.

[@farrelliosis]

but you forgot that it was stated that at the end of the top goku is stronger than his original ssjb form

[@Tactical.chocolate]

If zenkai was a person😂

[@GameshinbunTV]

... or it's just a big plot armor 😂

[@IGuko1144]

You had me up until you said times 20. It doesn’t go above 10 in canon.

[@justinspike1669]

A huge problem with super in general since when do they all have HP regain? This is not a real thing lol.

[@windows98alpha35]

Dragon Ball Super makes NO SENSE in a power sailing regard in general. Which is why I'll never take DBS seriously in a power scaling regard. It's clear Akira just wanted to tell a story and didn't care if it made sense. I can respect that. I'm no fan of Super but at least Akira had fun.

[@sentinel3541]

I think you forgot that goku got a glimpse of UI, meaning a new realm of power is opened to him. Sure that doesn't make any sense that as soon as u unlock a transformation, ur base form absorb instantly of after a cople of min this new realm of power. But it happened before like in battle of gods. Coz ssj goku can't match up Beerus unless it's a goku that have gained a power in those realm

[@sentinel3541]

Talking about the first gap with Kefla, the others are cheesy yea

[@bwizard1062]

It is even more funny when you think that right before the TOP, when Goku and Vegeta decide to go in the Time chamber, Vegeta states that "we are close to our limit of strenght." Lol yeeaaaah sure thing man! 😂

[@mushroom11g55]

Well tbf, he was kind of right. Goku grew once he started training his Ultra Instinct mid battle. He needed UI to grow that massive amount. Unlocking UI and practicing it, makes Gokus Base Form stronger. As for Vegeta, he needed to be backed into a corner to evolve. Something that can't be done in the Time Chamber. They needed a BREAKTHROUGH not just training. They didn't need to grow they needed to Evolve. The BEST way for Saiyans to get stronger is to be backed into a wall. The mind has to believe they're in serious danger.

[@Fritogeta]

Goku stole Gohan's potential during the Tournament of Power

[@maridiancrest243]

You are cooking to hard dude. SSBlue was surpressed when he fought berserker kale. Just like he was surpressed against Krillin. They can supress their energy even when using their highest forms. I dont think his SS2 surpassed his SSblue prior if he wasnt supressed

[@mushroom11g55]

Do NOT expect Universe 6 and 7 Sayians to play by the same rules, theyre LITERALLY from different Universes, theyre basically not the same race! If we dont put Humans and Sayians by the same rules why Universe 6 and 7 Saiyans? Its the same difference, they evolved differently, just like Humans evolved different from saiyans or monkeys.

[@mrmarr8308]

So is stamina and strength the same thing in dbs?

[@pinkguy9787]

I don't know why you're Fighting dragon Ball super power level made no sense anymore

[@Wolfaroni]

Goku just needs to go with Piccolo to Taco Bell and eat, then fight for his life on the toilet. Afterwards, he will gain powers beyond even Zeno! Where's my proof? Because the plot said so. 😁 By the way, jokes aside. Good video.

[@TheNaturalGamer1]

We got a hater over here

[@lordkiza8838]

John Jacob jinglehiming smith. 100%

[@Albertdingleberry]

Namek saga 2.0 all these zenkai boost

[@mushroom11g55]

Lol they jumping Jiren in the thumbnail, MUI Goku never beat Jiren, they had to jump that dude.

[@leosnyder5264]

Are you high mui Goku did beat jiren jiren told you this but he couldn't finish him don't from giving out fool

[@mushroom11g55]

@@leosnyder5264 exactly COULDNT FINISH HIM! The fight isn't done until you finish the opponent! They were jumping Jiren the WHOLE TOURNAMENT Goku never defeated Jiren in a fair 1v1 from start to finish. All he did was beat Jiren 1 Round but Jiren won all the other Rounds.

[@mirerito]

@@leosnyder5264 Jiren was beat, but MUI Goku took his time to finish the job thinking he could do it for longer until his body almost exploded.

[@mirerito]

@@leosnyder5264 All Goku needed to do in that small timeframe before his body went bo-bomb was to push Jiren out. He got cocky.

[@mattg6728]

I guess you didn't read the handbook

[@dylankramer9249]

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[@nil_l-db4ig]

Second 🎉

[@Firemarioflower]

Womanhandles hahaha

[@avoiceacrosstheworld1943]

First

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Bro

[@Hernok1985]

The super anime is very bad written...