Why grass-finished meat is better

Paul explains why grain-finished cattle have more exposure to glyphosate than grass-finished cattle. He touches on why we must look further than the nutritional quality when choosing what kind of meat to eat.

[@Nofxthepirate]

I'm a broke college student so I mostly just buy 80/20 ground beef in bulk from the foodservice store. It's not ideal, but I'm not in great shape anyway so my primary goal is weight loss and better nutrition. I think it's important to get the best quality meat you can, but I feel like the push towards grass fed beef makes people think carnivore isn't worth it unless you do grass fed only. This really isn't the case. It's still very worth doing. A diet of grain fed beef is still going to be much better for you than almost any diet with a heavy processed carb component.

[@jac7236]

I think emphasizing the ideal quality is good. It gives you something to aim for.

[@swyllie30]

Grain fed less glyphosate than wheat.

[@Primetime_dads]

Is regular 80/20 chuck grain fed, I just got some from win dixey and I’m wondering. I know it’s not grass fed, so that means it’s definitely grain fed correct

[@William.H.Bonney1]

@@swyllie30 there is not a single wheat variety you can spray glyphosate over and over 98% of corn grown in the us that is fed to cattle is sprayed with glyphosate how can that be

[@Madgardian]

While I agree with most conventional practices grass fed will have a slight edge, but is only best if the grass has not been contaminated. This goes the same for grain fed/finished. I raised Organic Alberta Angus for many years. Grass and grain is necessary for the best beef product in my opinion. Very strict regimen. Free lesson : Chop (which is barley, oats and supplements "chopped up") was Organic (cleanest grains on earth, no crop spraying with chemicals). We ALL fed cattle hay, green feed (combo of grasses which ARE where grains come from by the way) and grains in the winter with salt and minerals and pasture grass in the summer with additional supplements and oats for calves. Our cattle were fed better than most humans! We finished with a special blend of grains, supplements, molasses, etc.(family secret) to increase marble and flavor.

[@ArthurShelby-PB]

It's easier said than done. Grass fed meat is just too expensive in the UK.

[@pennysmart7506]

So August 1st I woke up and decided that I was giving up All sugar all carbs grains and wine. I have only been eating remnant meat . I wasn't doing really well on beef so I asked my mom who is the genealogy queen of our family . Did the research what our ancestors were I looked up what they ate and so I'm eating mostly lamb and goat and butter because we're Irish Scottish and English when I did that the weight started falling off so I went from 300 lb to 269 now and down two sizes from a 22 to an 18. I've had a gastro bypass and I'm trying to figure out what to do next because as of the 30th I've done it for 30 days should I keep on going or should I start introducing other Foods. And I'm very lucky to live in Idaho where I can get organic meat pretty much for my next door neighbors but what about animals that are raised in the mountains and that are allowed to eat off the range because I got a lot of ranchers that let their cattle and their goats and their sheep roam.

[@hyrunnisa997]

wow. maybe i should do a geneology test. Thats really cool.

[@autonomous_collective]

TEST ASAP and let us know. Cost, etc?

[@sc-zo1dm]

I just want to know why everything is sprayed with the stuff and how it's legal

[@ginodumitru2529]

And an other thing it's very difficult to find grass fed grass finished in those whole foods stores the only one they have is grass finished but that's just a trick to confuse us because they are allowed to mark that meat grass finished even if the cow was outside for one day and the rest inside eating grains. It's not easy

[@chrisbrown2211]

Buy direct from a farm

[@tetoffense7659]

I don't think that is exactly right. Most cows are not kept inside. Cows are are raised in pastures then taken to feed lots where they are fattened up with grains.

[@ginodumitru2529]

@@chrisbrown2211 I live in fricking Miami there is no farmmms wtf. And many others the live in urban city's not everyone lives close to a farm come on

[@chrisbrown2211]

@@ginodumitru2529 you can drive to one or order online

[@Attmay]

Shipping costs negate the savings.

[@sniczyk]

Hi Dr. Paul! I’ve been on the carnivore diet for a couple months for the purpose of healing my arthritis in both thumbs, elbow joint pain, crazy mood swings, and brain fog. I saw significant results just after a month! I am 5’2, 112 pounds, 46 years old, mother of 5! I have eaten pretty much low-fat/no fat diet my whole life and I’m now seeing the benefits of full fat! I am new to this and I’ve been researching some and wondered if I should I be eating a certain amount of protein/fat each day? How much Consumption of water/electrolytes? I feel like there should be some rules to follow?? I have not had my blood checked or tested, is this something you would recommend as well?

[@aquavitae3824]

Most people are low in potassium, found in meat broth, avocadoes, and supplements. Another good electrolyte is magnesium; mostly avoid the magnesium oxide form. Another suggestion is animal fates for energy, at least 12 Tbsp/day, and don't be afraid to vary your protein intake periodically.

[@thelandsavior402]

I cured mine without supplements with beef, bacon, butter and egg

[@thelandsavior402]

If you felt dry lips or dry ankle or dry skin you just eat more fats. Water will not hydrate you, egg yolk will do a good job there.

[@ginodumitru2529]

I did my blood work after two months in carnivor coming from 5 years of plant base. Last blood work results in January this year before I decided to go in carnivor was. Total cholesterol 129 HDL 37 LDL 77 Triglyceride 66 Carnivor 2 months. Total cholesterol 235 HDL 59 LDL 177 Triglyceride 49 I don't know why I had the HDL that low in the vegan diet but it looks like it's going up a little but everything else to. Any idea to rise my HDL?

[@boblaser7385]

@@ginodumitru2529 beef, not turkey

[@BlackWomenInComedyLaffFest]

Where are you in CR? I am planning to retire there in 5 years.

[@s4rest123]

Thank you for clarifying this. I feel so much better on grass finished meat. If someone can afford it that’s the best choice. I understand that most can’t afford it but if you can - get it.

[@whitenoise2027]

Did you forget something?? Where can we get tested for glyphosate contamination?

[@MattDonafrio]

Following

[@denniswilliamson6899]

…ditto… Paul? If anyone has a “vested interest” in going granular with regard to the “Carnivore Diet” you win this appellation and all of the glory associated. Glyphosate aside, our “granular” attention could review a whole, long list: 1. Meat industry, in general, and regenerative farmers, in particular, give us “food” for thought: a. One interviewee postulated, without any scientific references, that grass fed-grass finished beef has a pH closer and more similar to vegetables (“…a pH of 7.x instead of the typical pH of 4.x for grain fed beef… .” …!?!… .) Three quantum pH degrees?!? I’m sure Bart Kay could make real hay from this, but I defer to you. I have bought and read your Carnivore Code book. This can be verified… ? It should! Low hanging fruit! Major implications! 2. Another unreferenced source concludes that even a grain fed beef source starts out grass fed and, being versatile ruminants, the resulting meat only raises from 1.0 unit of naturally occurring linoleic acid to a mere 1.8 units whereas the general porcine and poultry populations are much more profoundly affected raising already high naturally occurring linoleic acid from 10.0 and 8.0 units to the massive quantities of 20.0 and 13.0 units, respectively, for those populations fed “vegetarian feed.” (No glyphosate was even considered.) Profound implications here, too. Though much more difficult to get “peer” reviewed. You and Dr Benjamin Bikman appear to be on the same page, here. 3. Furthermore, and moreover, the Carnivore conundrum being hotly debated includes the issue of whether or not grass fed beef actually derives the same carotene benefits the live cattle apparently get from eating grass. Could this account for the pH quantum leap? Q.E.D.

[@RobCee4ever]

This is a short clip from a podcast. I am sure he did mention in the full podcast

[@Nofxthepirate]

@@denniswilliamson6899 I'm a mathematician and I'm unreasonably annoyed that you used Q.E.D. at the end of a list of hypotheses. It's supposed to be used after you definitively prove something.

[@danielglidden9290]

He mentions it in the full podcast

[@TimReuscher-bg5xt]

Why is it that some grass fed beef either tastes fishy or like grass or even hay? I've read that it's because of the high amounts of omega threes. BUT Iberico ham is supposed to have the best ham in the world due to the strict acorn diet. Acorns are very high in omega threes. I'm confused.

[@AS-78065]

Hi! I don’t know if you’ll see this, but every time I eat grass fed meat, it wigs my stomach out!! Every time. 😩 I’m hoping you have some reasons or any correlation to something that might help me be able to change that! Thank you!

[@Kevingrip]

He never replies 😭

[@AS-78065]

Bummer!! Ty for letting me know!

[@GutiarAce]

Maybe your stomach acid isn't acidic enough to digest it. keep up with the meat to get your stomach acid more acidic? just a guess

[@AS-78065]

@@GutiarAce I’ll definitely give that a go and look into. Thank you!

[@isaiaswithan_s7574]

So regular grass fed meat is not okay it has to say grass fed and grass finished ?

[@noahjonny7737]

1 kilogram of meat is about 30 dollars here. Paying 700 to 900 dollars per month just for meat is unfortunately not doable. Any tips?

[@tomunderwood4283]

Which country?

[@noahjonny7737]

@@tomunderwood4283 Netherlands

[@tomunderwood4283]

@@noahjonny7737 I saw an article from March that the Dutch government was considering a tax on beef to raise the prices more to get people to eat less meat. Perhaps organize like minded people to raise awareness of grass fed beef. And vote anti-beef politicians out of office.

[@tateytotz]

Move to a different country

[@THEANIMALGUY]

Ia grass fed different from grass finished?

[@tomunderwood4283]

Yes. All cows are grass fed most of their life. Then they are sold to feed lots to fatten them up for months before slaughter, except the ‘grass finished’ continue to eat grass not grains. ‘Grass fed’ is a marketing trick.

[@THEANIMALGUY]

@@tomunderwood4283 oh I see thx for the information 🙏

[@JeffMartinez648]

One major point that is never made and needs to be front and center when buying grass fed beef is the type of cattle it’s from. For instance, grass feb brangus or bramahs are tough as leather, especially if harvested too early. The better meats come from the old English breeds, old style angus, Devonshires, shorthorns, Herefords, etc,,, they have the capacity to turn grass into fat far better than any crosses that have been created here in the states. I’ve done both and it’s a no-brainer once you done the test of trying the two different classes. Some food for thought (all pun intended).

[@garyfinch1840]

If it's in the urine, it's in the blood and therefore in all your supplements Paul!

[@genewaggoner6449]

I’m a rancher , we don’t spray glyphosate on pasture grass.

[@baybrad4159]

I keep trying grass fed and finished but I just don't like it. I'll keep trying

[@Madgardian]

It's because grass fed and finished isn't as good as it could be. If it was fed properly, it would taste mouth watering. I explain part of the secret above.

[@wesleygaitan]

Try a different meat

[@denniswilliamson6899]

@@wesleygaitan goat?

[@alangalloway8700]

The secret is the age of the animal. Properly done, 100% grassfed and finished beef is generally at least 4 years old. I raise Galloway beef from Scotland. There’s a DVD called Steak Revolution where the author found the best steak he could find worldwide. He found it in Spain from a 15 year old steer!

[@Jedhaase]

Not suggesting people do the same thing, but this is why I personally don't take the extra step with my diet. 95+ percent of our food is screwed with in one way or another, even most - all the grass fed and organic stuff, and you do have to put in effort and more money to get the more quality foods. These days especially with price increases I just stick with all the grain and soy fed crap, even though I know it's not very good for you. I have friends that hunt and gardens, and the quality of all those foods and the way they make you feel is SIGNIFICANTLY better than grass fed beef and organic produce from the grocery stores.

[@Jedhaase]

​@showbizonastick I agree to good extent. I watch sv3rige and I'm a fan of Aajonus Vonderplanitz. You have to find healthy animals that come from clean farms. Local farms that you can visit would be ideal. Your standard run of the mill meats at the supermarket are too risky except for rare steak, and you also have to even be careful with wild game meats.

[@gytispranskunas4984]

99% of population can't afford grass fed beef. Beef in general is hard to afford to begin with. I can easily eat 2kg of beef a day and it's already sums up to 20€ euro, just buying cheapest

[@born2win262]

99%? A bit too much. You choose where you spend your money. City people say they can't afford grass fed food but spend $200 a month on Starbucks or Dutch Bros.

[@Asgro]

Buy half a cow, it's an investment but totally worth it... That's what me and my family just did... Comes out to about 6.50 a pound for everything

[@gytispranskunas4984]

@@Asgro 6.5 a pund is tremendously expensive. It's barely half of kilogram. Here in Europe ground 1kg ground beef which is 2.2 pounds cost around 7 euros. Raw kilogram of muscle meat cost around 9 euros. And even this price is way to much for most of Europeans. Every one here eats cheaper pork meat.

[@ginodumitru2529]

I understand your point but what happened if I can not afford the grass finished, should I go back to vegan?

[@SlobosReality]

god blessed rudimentary animals with a digestive system to filter the crap out and you still better off with any kind of rudimentary meat than monogastric animals.

[@wesleygaitan]

Yes

[@ginodumitru2529]

@@wesleygaitan 🤣

[@denniswilliamson6899]

@@SlobosReality ruminant?

[@SlobosReality]

@@denniswilliamson6899 an even-toed ungulate mammal that chews the cud regurgitated from its rumen. The ruminants comprise the cattle, sheep, antelopes, deer, giraffes, and their relatives.

[@ShyMplsMale]

Paying attention to only nutritional value when it comes to food is like marrying someone based solely on looks. There is so much more beneath the surface you need to be aware of.

[@area859]

Dr. Nicolas Gonzalez treated people with cancer...he stated he knew by blood type which patients responded better with eating red meat and which responded better with plant base diets....any thoughts on this?? Blood type play a role in your opinion?

[@DK-pr9ny]

Grass fed/finished doesn’t guarantee glyphosate free..

[@paulhart3812]

Those people saying industrial mass produced grain-fed beef is fine are wrong. Those cows are sick and chock full of GMO corn, soy and grains. Organic grass-fed is the only way to go.

[@Jack-hy1zq]

Where I live, there is no grass-fed meat. Doesn't exist. I imagine that is true for many carnivores. We all know that grass-fed is best so why torment those of us that can't get any?

[@thecarnivorecanoe5167]

Learn to hunt.🙏

[@Jack-hy1zq]

@@thecarnivorecanoe5167 That's a pathetic reply. Opportunities for hunting are quite limited in the city centre.

[@thecarnivorecanoe5167]

@@Jack-hy1zq keep having excuses.

[@raskolnikov6645]

@@thecarnivorecanoe5167 that's the worst answer i have ever seen ahahaha But a great joke

[@thecarnivorecanoe5167]

@@raskolnikov6645 😆 You can practice slingshot and hunt rabbit dove squirrel duck etc.