Why Have I Ditched The Garmin R10?

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[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Thanks all for watching 😊 don’t forget to Subscribe to the channel and hit the 🔔

[@DLudGolf]

The only reason to get rid of an R10, is you're blessed to be able to afford or get gifted a better LM. My baby Trackman (R10) was a preorder and is still kicking butt. Id still have it in my golf bag for the range even if I upgraded my Sim unit. Keep up Dave! From another OG R10 KZbinr congrats on your success

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Thank you mate, and all the best of success to you also. It’s a great unit and like I said there are features on the mlm2pro that make it worth upgrading but realistically a better upgrade is the skytrak+

[@paulhuk2748]

I'm with clow242 , you just sold me another one 😂 but I do get what you say, I love my r10 , it has helped my game, and also awesome golf offers a lifetime membership , so for £650 I got my r10 and AG , had for over a year now, best money I have spent in a long time, well since the EXputt at least another great simulator for putting. Keep them coming mate.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Thanks mate 😂 they’re great units

[@alecgaroian1661]

Hey David! As many have probably told you, you were one of the people that inspired me to get my R10 a few years back and I’m so glad I did. Regardless of your content in the future, I cant wait to see it. I recently started using my R10 outdoors on grass ranges to get my accurate carry distances and I literally just got Awesome Golf this week. So there is no net, I am just hitting it out into the open range. In terms of setting it up can you tell me if I got this right? Make sure the unit is on the same level as the golf ball and line it up with your target line. I measure 7 feet back. Then I turn the unit on and calibrate it. Then I do not open the range section or anything else on Garmin and instead I open Awesome Golf and use the coaching section. From my understanding you have a 2 foot by 2 foot hitting area so 1 foot forward, left, right and back of the ball spot you originally marked. Is that all correct or should I modify anything? There isn’t anywhere to set up the 7 foot distance on Awesome Golf so that scared me since on the Garmin app you usually set the distance but in this case I dont set that up since you aren’t using the Garmin app. Also is there anywhere to save your coaching sessions? I didn’t see it anywhere. Thank you!

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Hey mate, you’re correct with those measurements and yes awesome golf will save all of your sessions in the awesome golf community app. So you can just do there and see them 😁

[@BoschRexroth-uscom]

Hi David…do you have comparison of Awesome Golf vs GSPro for MLM2 Pro? I just received my MLM2 Pro..I love it. Now looking to pair it with simulation software.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

I haven’t used GSPro on the MLm2pro as yet but I know many people are starting to. It’s better software for course play but if you want analytics and averages then awesome golf coaching section is better

[@clow242]

After watching the first 3 minutes of this video makes me want to buy the r10 lol

[@hugebeefstick1195]

It works great if you have the space. The biggest drawback for me personally was that you need at least 7 ft of space from the device to the ball and 8-10 feet for ball flight into a net or screen. I spent weeks messing with these distances and for my setup, I found this works best.

[@clow242]

@@hugebeefstick1195 makes me want it even more. It’s for my backyard

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

😂 it’s a great unit.

[@JAW_73]

It's great. I've had it since it was released. All the updates and awesome golf have made it almost perfect value for the price.

[@terryvital4868]

lol! Me too!

[@golffe]

I have the Mevo+ I have this nailed to accuracy for my swing speed, I'm have been asked to take an LM to a few courses that have no driving range and would like to give them options in prices, what distance is the Garmin R10 to ball then Ball to Screen do you use? Thanks

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

6.5 feet to ball them 10 to screen

[@boredymcboredface8624]

100% agree For me that subscription on the mlm means that 5 years = 1000k more. So we have initial buy price which is more and subscribing costs … well at ~2k is it the best launch monitor in that bracket? And let’s not forget the subscription cost is just feature unlock - it costs them nothing to provide those services.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

True 👌🏼

[@g1598]

i HATE subscription based products, the Garmin R10 is just easy to use and already have several garmin products so it made it even easier. just wish the video feature was free which linked to a G-Drive storage would be easiest

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

It is a very easy and simple product to use for sure

[@denlgreensnake]

I was able to pick up a second hand r10 for 260€, just hearing from devices costing a few thousand always shocks me a bit.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

That’s a great buy well done

[@matthewsedore2587]

Have the r10. love it except i find the short game (under 20 yards) is very unpredictable. I know it's not meant for chipping and putting but even a lot of my bump and run shots are tricky to get accurate. Not usually a big deal as I go to proper practice ranges with greens for this, but I will say when you have the guys over for some "rounds" of golf in the garage, it can get annoying. any tips for improving bump and run accuracy or short game accuracy? the only thing that has helped a little is selecting that i have a 5iron in hand on the software yet I actually use the 8iron for low bump and run. maybe it's scanning lower launch angles this way?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

This is true, I think they can improve that in the next version

[@johnnyrotton89]

Bro. Instant subscriber. Well said and didn’t feel like you were pushing one over the other. I’ll be looking at the r10 using in an outdoor net. The main thing I’m trying to see is shot shape and controlling a slice. In your opinion do you think the Garmin can cover what I’m looking for? Cheers

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@johnnyrotton89 thanks bro. Yea the farming for shot shaping is good when you have enough room like 12 feet and use the RCT ball. It still runs an algorithm but it’s pretty accurate

[@johnnyrotton89]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf amazing mate thanks. I think I’m pretty sold on it now. I’ve got 11ft max but fingers crossed it’s enough

[@kevinbergeron7333]

Thanks for the update love your videos as always! What is your thoughts on the mevo and especially the mevo+ I just recently dipped my toe into the launch monitor market and purchased the mevo and I like it and I am looking at the mevo+ anyway your opinion would be appreciated

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Great units, I believe the mevo+ may need more room in front of the unit than most. I think they recommend 14 feet in front

[@WithSeb]

Currently using the R10 with GS Pro and like you said no major probems at all besides for me the small 10-25 yeard chip shots areound the green are basically impossible to get right and trigger on the system. Considering an upgrade now to the OG skytrak or the Mevo + I've seen floading online for sale here in Aus / Ebay for around 1500-2k range. Would you still go with a camera system over the Mevo + ?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

I would personally as with a mevo+ is still needs 2 full revolutions of the golf ball to track spin accurately so a camera based unit will always be more accurate

[@JAW_73]

Skytrack plus vs the mevo plus limited?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Id have to test the mevo plus limited first. Haven’t done that yet

[@edoardobarzano978]

Good day there. Just wondering which is the next lm up from the r10 blp has some great deals at the moment but they want 500us gold subscription a year, and you need the sub to run gspro. So if one would like to run gspro what is in your opinion the next lm up. Asking you cause you do a lot of research on the subjects. Tia.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Hey Tia, Next step up from the r10 really is the mlm2pro and it begins to measure side spin and give you a lot more data than the r10 like impact vision etc. then up from that I think you should look at the skytrak+ as that’s the best unit for indoor home golf simulators available

[@edoardobarzano978]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf do they need subscription to run gspro? Oh and I wanted to share a quick story with you. I stumbled across one of your videos about how simulators one day, and since I'm in oz too and space is limited, especially with family, and especially in big towns if you don't wanna live in the sticks I looked at your setup and thought it's possible. And here I am with a whole home setup. All thanks to you. So thank you so much for all the replies and kindness. Hit them straight.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@edoardobarzano978 that’s awesome mate, thanks for sharing that story 😁 and you don’t need a subscription on the r10 to run GSPro. It just connects seamlessly

[@edoardobarzano978]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf oh i know I'm running the r10 with gspro, yes that's the one advice i didn't listen to. As I d rather practice on the course, like behind trees and so i thought that AG was bit pricey. So i went for gspro. Which is great, needs development but the courses are really great and the training features are fantastic. Gotta set up the putting not(for the kids 😂)

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Yeah the practise on GSPro could do with some development especially when it comes to getting average numbers etc but it's getting better@@edoardobarzano978

[@fuzzybanana9128]

Hey David. You say next step up you believe Skytrak+ is the best unit available. What about the Bushnell Launch Pro or Uneekor Eye Mini Lite? I know the mini lite is brand new but have you not tried the BLP? Im looking at that next biggish upgrade and leaning heavily on BLP over Skytrak+. Your thoughts? Thanks. ✌️

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

The BLP is basically a dumbed down GC3 and still quite a bit more that ST+ but unfortunately the BLP isn’t available in Australia so we are stuck with the more expensive GC3. When I compare GC3 with ST+ they’re identical

[@fuzzybanana9128]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Thanks for the reply, last question. If BLP was available and you had to pick, are you taking BLP or Skytrak+? Dont consider money, what offers more and is the best in your opinion between the 2?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@fuzzybanana9128 skytrak+ has bag mapping TGC 2019, optimiser, wedge matrix, handicap rankings etc the list goes on. And Bushnell is basically just foresight which the software was amazing but it’s falling behind now

[@fuzzybanana9128]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Thank you, appreciate your insight. I have found many question marks myself with BLP like $750 a yr must have subscription, any course you buy are $150😳😳, ect. So im back to saving a big of money and leaning to Skytrak. Thanks again. ✌️

[@derekbrannen4060]

Awesome video dude , Every one is always looking to improve . So whether it be the r10 or new sky track . I love my r10 I am just having a little trouble with it struggling with lower launch angles . Now it maybe my set up. Did you ever have to raise the unit like an inch over the hitting mat ? My short irons/wedges are spot on . Long irons and hybrids/fairways are just off a bit. And trust me I watched all your videos about set up lol . Keep up the great content

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Thanks mate, yea I do raise it to the mat level. If the launch angles are low, try it without a stand and see how that goes 😁👍🏼

[@nickmichaudgolf3454]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf so having the unit a fraction lower then the mat? have you try raissing the rear leg david if so whast your though?

[@akammeraad]

How is that picking up your shots? I thought you had to be 8-10 feet feom ball to screen or net? You look closer than that

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Nope about 9 feet here

[@LordMouse88]

That R10 looks to be a great deal :)

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

It is Mo!

[@glennbaliong]

What mat do you use?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

One from 24/7 golf 😁

[@eeeeeee86678]

damn, you're pretty good at golf

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Thank you, a lot of hours in the sim

[@jasonbrewer8065]

How far are you hitting from your screen? It looks like only about 6 to 7 feet.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

9.5 feet, just the camera angle 📐

[@jasonbrewer8065]

Great videos by the way!

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@jasonbrewer8065 thanks mate

[@PNWLiving1725]

Is it good for chipping?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Yup 👍🏼

[@TheTequilaHombre]

No club path or Face path data on the MLM2.. The Garmin has it..

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

MLM2pro has impact vision which is probably better. Giving you a 240fps shot of the club head coming into impact with the ball

[@TheTequilaHombre]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf They said that Club path data will come in a future update but there is no ETA. Its easier to see the data of club path and face to path data. Garmin give it to you so right now I am using my Garmin while my MLM2 is sitting on the shelf while I fix my over the top issue.

[@AD-jc9sj]

It’s great for the price but then carry yardages are way out

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@AD-jc9sj it can be finicky to set up

[@SincereFaith5.0]

The ONLY issue I have with the MLM 2 Pro is if you don’t pay for the subscription…you lose the ONLY variant that separates it from the Garmin R10 The Spin Axis…Rapsodo penalizes you if you don’t pay the subscription fee. So if you want to use it because your working on your game for directionality (Grip, cupping your wrists-slicers) then you have to pay the $200 - plus if you want to use GSPro or Awesome Golf it’s another $200 a year. So with the Rapsodo it could be $400 or more a year just to have that accurate spin data. (Directionality) not to mention all the connection issues I be seen it have. Dropping connection mid game- for one guys dozens of times in one video. While the R10- you can use the unit no subscription pay for $200 Awesome Golf and be done. And get Garmins higher level of connectivity reliability. Kind of where I’m at now….

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Yeah you do but the Garmin doesn’t give you a lot of what the mlm2pro does. Measured spin axis, impact vision, dual swing vision etc etc

[@Ld99995]

Since you’ve ditched it, feel free to just send the r10 to me!

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

😂 this one’s staying on the shelf. Present from Mum

[@nunyo7259]

I wish the garmin app was even decent but its trash. I mean atleast have a combine type thing.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

It’s not great, they’re trying to improve it but I guess there’s no subscription and other third party offerings like GSPro

[@andrewrowley6253]

Should I not use the RCT balls outside with the Garmin? Because I was noticing with my gap and edge the r10 was only reading like 4000 spin and I know that’s not right then when I used my tp5x’s I was getting consistent 9000 spin numbers. And I calibrated the r10 twice. Any help you can give me with that? Did you run into that at all?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Outside it tricky, it won’t read correct spin numbers without the RCT balls but they’re expensive balls to use outside

[@andrewrowley6253]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf no I was using the rct balls outside and it wasn’t reading spin correctly but when I used the regular ball outside it did read proper spin it’s weird

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@andrewrowley6253 that is weird. Not sure on that one

[@JustDisc]

I love how it took you 4 minutes to get to what the video is about. EDIT 8 minutes

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Welcome to KZbin….

[@BobConnor-iz4mm]

Since you ditched it can you send me it

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

No sir haha still love it, just don’t use it

[@topgunbass]

R10 had its time. Others have surpassed it. It's time Garmin put out a new unit. Enough with new watches.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

I do agree. Some updates need to be made. To the hardware

[@PNWLiving1725]

I just got mine. Really I'm not a pro, I want to play and practice, and this will work with awesome golf. So I'm good

[@DUTNJAY]

Bushnell BLP ball data only is the one to get off you're looking to play against others on something like gspro. No one wants to play anyone with anything that's using something short of a camera based system. Bottom line.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

The mlm2pro uses a camera to read spin axis on the rpt balls

[@MortenRyberg]

Features that are already on a product should not be allowed to charge a subscription for. If its for additional things and continous support then fine... but subs is on everything these days and its too much

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

I agree. It’s the way companies make the most money but it’s not always good for the consumer

[@1NATURELOVERJ]

Please...take a lesson. OMG!

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Some things can’t be fixed… just gotta work with it

[@pierrejoubert8286]

Damn dude...really long winded to try and make your point.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Welcome to KZbin 😂 where every video on everything could literally be 3 mins

[@jakesnodgrass5859]

so you've run out of things to talk about w/ the R10, thus can't create more content using it. No prob.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Didn’t say that, I just said that other units have come out and as a product reviewer I want to explore and show those units as well. So after doing well over 100 videos with the R10 I’ve pretty much covered it from every angle.

[@propete2006]

Sooo much waffle and repetition...

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Welcome to KZbin

[@adrianmack3]

Then put up your own videos exactly how you want them presented, so other keyboard warriors can tell you how to do it differently.

[@arikanami]

MLM 2Pro short chip shot is mess...

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Most budget Doppler radar are the same

[@arikanami]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf but R10 works better buddy...

[@wxcoopergmail]

the one i have is from kaizen golf. i might ask if they recommend a tee

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

👍🏼

[@wxcoopergmail]

what tees do you use for driving in your simulator

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Tee Claw 👍🏼😁

[@wxcoopergmail]

i bought some of those but i can't get them to stay in matting

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Yeah a good mat is needed. Otherwise they have those small basket tee things in amazon. amzn.asia/d/4EWcYH0