Why He Quit IFS? (Analyzing India's Foreign Services) - Ft. Shantanu Bhagwat with Naman Ep. 1

[@namanshrivastava]

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[@kevinvjacob4715]

Good discussion @Naman 👍

[@prtk_01]

He passed away 4 months ago. Saw a post on LinkedIn. He was really loved and respected by his colleagues. True Patriot. Om Shanti Sir💐💐

[@SkyLoreking]

as a citizen, I really feel sorry and pained for India as we employ approximately 700 IFS officers which is less than Singapore which employs more than 800 officers with the city size of Chennai. We the rising sovereign power need to increase our foreign service to a minimum of 3000 officers or else we will pay dearly in times of need or war. thank you for the video

[@fahad5991]

Such a gem person! May he Rest in Peace. Prayers for him and his close ones. 💔

[@Sajal0312]

did he die ?

[@Arjun-nx]

@@Sajal0312 yes brother he is no more between all of us cause brain tumour😥

[@hdkdjd2949]

​@@Arjun-nxooh really? Sad to hear that

[@rayray9996]

Shantanu has been brutally honest about various matters in this video. His comments about the Indian Civil Services are so true. I admire his courage to decide not to be part of the crowd and do what is politically correct in order to remain in the service so as to enjoy the perks/benefits and retirement benefits. He had the courage to stand up for what he believed in and is now in a good place. An inspiration for people of all ages.

[@barneystinson8789]

Naman Sir and Shantanu Sir - what a Jodi! Both are true MisFits! Naman sir for today's generation, and Shantanu Sir for the previous generation. What a pleasure to see both of them together

[@ShantanuB]

Thanks @barneysttincon8789. Glad you enjoyed it. MisFits sometimes get very lucky! All the best to you in your journey

[@amrutwarty8823]

Lovely honest interview. Would love to meet Mr. Shantanu Bhagwat. Thanks Mr. Naman for this interview.

[@sayeeshreddy4853]

I have never waited so eagerly for a video in my life. Glad to say that it was worth the wait. Such an amazing and insightful podcast. Glad to be a part of misfits. Lots of love sir.

[@namanshrivastava]

Always a delight to hear from a MisFitter! :)

[@youreverydaymotivation.]

​​@@namanshrivastavaFirst I thought you invited Railway Minister 😅. And Bhaiya I applied for Misfits Scholarship but did not got any reply from your side yet. Also I want to know should I go with your CGI Initiative is there any scholarship for CGI also??

[@ShantanuB]

Thank you Sayeesh. Glad you enjoyed it. All the best to you in your aspirations.

[@ShantanuB]

Thank you @youreverydaymotivation. I have never been compared to the Railway Minister, but there is always a first time, I guess!

[@Muleslover]

Most of the govt primary schools are synonym to kitchen because kid only eat food and come back.

[@operator_zx5265]

Read some shit kid , learn something about poverty , malnutrition, gross enrollment ration in poor area ,etc. And then talk aalll this nonsense.

[@ShivamSharma-un6fj]

Who will then carry forward legacy of bureaucracy, if we all bow down to challenges. Why such videos " quit" upsc, why not " reform" upsc! ... Sir tell us?

[@vanshikathakur7208]

Agree

[@karunasingh4591]

Beacuse yu have to accept if you want to be with truth any kind of challenge can some and you have to face it whether it is upon your life ....that is summarisation

[@vanshikathakur7208]

@@karunasingh4591 then who will take the challenges? Everyone has to face challenges in thier life ...what do u want everyone to leave these "challenges" wale jobs? Then all the army people should leave their jobs?.. Challenges are the part of our life.. gotta face them

[@karunasingh4591]

@vanshikathakur please read carefully mny aisa kahi nahi likha

[@ShantanuB]

@Shivam: Sure, reforming the services is a very noble aim. But the direction has to be set by the political leadership. Administrative Reforms have been on the agenda for years now but progress has been very slow, although things are changing since the last 10 years or so (e.g., encouraging lateral entry)

[@hagimaruu]

Very Interesting Person !! Loved his practical views. Wish I could meet him once.. Waiting for more Podcasts like this !!!!

[@namanshrivastava]

Absolutely!

[@ShantanuB]

@Scholar:Thanks and glad you enjoyed the video. The world is a small place (and getting smaller). So who knows, one day perhaps we will meet!

[@AI-Tutorials-]

thankyou so much for the podcast i was s much confused myself between IFS and USMLE, i did made up my mind to pursue USMLE but the fact that I have followed the diplomatic affairs since class 9th stopped me but now I do have a clear vision for myself, so thanks a lot !!

[@NeetuSingh-yp6fj]

Now u r in which class ?

[@ShantanuB]

@Satanmabuz8956: Thank you for sharing your experience. I am glad that listening to this helped you clarify your thinking. Things are rarely black & white.

[@deepasinghal4729]

USMLE? American medical license?

[@sakshamsharma8511]

Hey man I’m in the same dilemma rn mle vs UPSC , I would like to connect please

[@Manhafuture]

finally u uploaded it naman bhaiya now i can die in peace after watching full podcast

[@hagimaruu]

😂😂🤣

[@namanshrivastava]

Haha!

[@sandhyadobhal8191]

Thank you so much naman sir. I was waiting for the full video very eagerly... N yeah independence day special... Nyc surprise... 🎉... I like it... Not just the video but the timing of uploading of the video too... 😊😊... I really admire your efforts to bring clarity to the youth. Otherwise most of the content is very delusional.

[@namanshrivastava]

Thanks for your kind words! Wish you all the best! :)

[@ShantanuB]

Thanks for the kind words, Sandhya

[@aishwaryapriya9416]

Please add subtitles. Shantanu's voice is coming across aa really low. Naman's voice is surprisingly translucent.

[@ShantanuB]

Thanks for the feedback, Aishwarya. Will bear in mind for the next time.

[@rajeevbanga4951]

Naman, you are a dicovery with bright credentials and a strong independent streak ! Your interview with Mr Shantanu Bhagwat, an equally interesting person, was candid, realistic, and thoroughly enjoyable.

[@anuragkadao6856]

Very profound , loved it

[@namanshrivastava]

:)

[@ShantanuB]

Anurag: Thanks for the kind words.

[@shrishtishukla4149]

We need more podcast like this , enough of toppers

[@namanshrivastava]

Thanks Shrishti for your kind words! Wish you all the best :)

[@ShantanuB]

Thanks Shrishti: I'm pleased you liked the podcast. MisFits have stories to share too!

[@rogers5765]

Some quite insightful and informative quality content there naman thank you.

[@namanshrivastava]

:)

[@ShantanuB]

Thanks @rogers5765. Glad you found it useful.

[@sridamchandradey5423]

Om Shanti; Sir is no more 😔 Miss you and your work and Words ❤️

[@amitesh3588]

What happened?

[@anujpandey6973]

He can afford such roller coaster journey and decisions due to his immense intelligence …but not everyone for him civil services is just a job but for many it is their survival ( although it should not be the case but the ground reality of producing skill less graduates results into such condition )

[@ShantanuB]

Anuj: I agree. This is not a path for everyone. You have to be prepared to live with enormous uncertainty, high risk of failure and in the end still not achieving what you wanted to do. So, not a journey for everyone. I got lucky and remain blessed.

[@pranushacheemarla300]

Interesting personality, thanks for uploading🙌

[@namanshrivastava]

Of course, all the best! :)

[@ShantanuB]

Thanks Pranusha. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@garvitsaini3963]

22:00 that’s what my father also once told me. That as a junior IFS officer sometimes you may even be expected to serve not the country but your superior. That’s very unprofessional. You get to live in a hostel, not as lavish as it might seem from a distance. Partly the reason why people end up choosing IAS over IFS. The least you can expect as an IAS is to get respect from general public, your peer and your relatives.

[@silverstone8039]

Who lives in a hostel dude. Almost all the officers I know live in big houses. Almost all of them are juniors. You are saying as if IAS and other services are too professional. Getting threatened by local gundas being IAS and IPS is not cool dude. It's funny how people assume things with very half knowledge.

[@Andbhaktkabap1]

​@@silverstone8039sab ke sab...tu phele nikal fir bat karna kamot meh

[@ramm8509]

​@@Andbhaktkabap1abe hr kisi ko sarkar ka naokar bnne ka shok ni rhta or hr koi chutiya nahi rhta india me upsc hi nahi h or v hai bshut kuch aaj ambani adani ke niche ias ips sb aate h 😂 bda bno bda socho

[@Andbhaktkabap1]

@@ramm8509 acha..🤣🤣🤣 esa ha..kaya kha the gyani baba ap.. chupe hua the kaya.. sidha sidha bol.. sarkari naukari nahi toh KZbinr 🤣

[@ramm8509]

@@Andbhaktkabap1 hr kisi ki fidrat nahi hoti bhai naokar bnne ki agr tujhe job security se brh kr kuch nahi h to kr government ke andar kamm meko to utta kuch intrest nii h meko to kuch alg krna thank you

[@rahulrd7276]

I can relate few of my thought process which matches with Mr Shantanu sir.......What an asset to the mankind.... Of course the interviewer and his team a big honest gratitude for doing these priceless masterpieces..........❤

[@rudreshsingh307]

Oh.. Finally. Behold.

[@tanveenkaur9638]

Rest in paradise Sir ❤ You are an inspiration for so many aspirants 🌺

[@malabikakaushik5265]

Naman sir, I want to thank you for bringing him. Thank you ❤

[@namanshrivastava]

Thank you! All the very best :)

[@ShantanuB]

Malabika: Thanks for the kind words. The pleasure was mine.

[@jugalkishoremahapatra2206]

What a fantastic and amazing conversation. Truly impressive. It cleared lot many doubts. Hardly I have ever heard such an erudite scholarly figure who talks so length and breadth.

[@abhishtasthana2637]

My dad was his batchmate at kendriya vidyalaya indore.

[@toshikarahe3230]

Most awaited podcast is finally live now

[@ShantanuB]

Toshi: Thanks for the kind words. Hope the wait was worth it.

[@yashutalks5339]

Rest In Peace Sir❤

[@akashkumaragrawal3960]

What a great and candid discussion it was 👌👌👌Very inspiring journey ...

[@khushbutrivedi791]

Informative and insightful ❤

[@sidharthyadav4581]

Remove corruption and inequity from system and people wont look after govt jobs, like government schools. India will thrive

[@sonamgyaltshenbhutia5612]

Actually i have a question about the foreign services, do IFS officers engage in active coordination with the Indian military, navy, or air force, given that their primary objective is to represent and advocate for their nation's interests in international affairs involving other countries?

[@shivanshkdubey3912]

Finally ❤

[@namanshrivastava]

:)

[@vivek3693]

I strongly believe that the richness of experiences makes life amazing. And life is too short to stick to something you don't enjoy. I envy his adventurous and follow-your-heart kind of journey. Absolutely inspiring conversation.

[@SAY-jf3hy]

When u asked about the aspirational levels of civil services elsewhere , i immediately remembered reading that the only country indian bureaucracy can be compared with is ITALY. I won't add the adjectives here.

[@siddhantmedhe4781]

Thank you Naman sir.

[@i_play_chess_8564]

Bhai it was an amazing amazing podcast. Such quality content, such practical insights from someone who has been around the world. I'm an aspirant and I always wanted to pursue the foreign service, but had so many doubts regarding it, this discussion helped me clear like 70% of it. (While there is a lot of content available on administrative services, there is surprisingly much less information about the foreign services idk why) 1 thing I wanted to know specifically was what exactly is the day to day work to be done in IFS (coz VIP visits, meetings are occasional , so I'm assuming the daily workload is much much lesser as compared to IAS?) Would love to see more content especially related to foreign services/diplomacy. ❤️🤞

[@MithileshJha-tn3ks]

Something common public can relate and clearly understand

[@scholar6582]

mast podcast thi aur esi podcast leke aaao waiting for more podcasts coming 💥💥

[@namanshrivastava]

:)

[@ShantanuB]

Thanks @Scholar6582. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@rajveerkrishnan]

Just want only ifs officer❤❤

[@lakshminarayanan5242]

Thank you naman sir

[@muditchaudhary7255]

The problem is that the main of bureaucracy in india always was to maintain the status quo of the state in india and we have foolish expectations social problems needs social solutions not the political one

[@chubiin20s36]

How to be an Indian diplomat without cracking UPSC exam? I mean is there any other exams?? Or a way????

[@Abinash99]

Rest in peace... 😢

[@AlpitSakcham22]

Sir I have only one question.... how did you learn english like this because I understand what are you speaking but sometimes I stuck some words....so sir how you improve vocabulary from this level....❤

[@vaibhavraj3376]

Quite insightful

[@HanuMa-y6p]

Hmm. What next.

[@jjrahij]

Naman bro which application you use for this podcast.....it is best quality so plz tell....

[@SAY-jf3hy]

Watched the full podcast, Shantanu is probably a misfitter of his time.

[@namanshrivastava]

Haha! Well said!

[@tapk1995]

India, Pak and Bangladesh are three countries left that still maintains the 3rd toughest exam on earth with brightest mugging students who crack to get those prestigious jobs with unlimited fuel & Cars with perks and decent cottages including police security for self and family and a Blue Beacon light on official car with VIP siren to drive them through crowded street. I bet the President & PM’s of half the world nations would envy. Yet Alas these 3 nations are one of the poorest of poor, where 80% to 95% graduates are jobless, broken infrastructure, school and health care, rampant corruption. What makes me wonder is the best nation on earth like Japan, China, Singapore, gulf countries and even Her highness modern UK do no have these fancy extra ordinary powerful Civil service officers with special privilege, yet they are 100 times far more prosperous and happy over these three nations manned by these extraordinary powerful civil service lobby who direct their presidents and prime ministers.

[@bhagat_metaphor]

I don’t want the power to go in hands of irresponsible so i want IAS but at same time don’t want to be the man on Elephant but iam sure i will end up some day being the man on elephants but ok. If still things go wrong I will become try to become analyst will try to work till my nex generation reach in 20s

[@namanshrivastava]

All the very best! :)

[@ShantanuB]

@bhagat: All the best on your journey!

[@aiswaryaswain9462]

Good evening Naman sir . Is there any way to talk to you once via any media possible

[@namanshrivastava]

KZbin works best, Aiswarya!

[@samarsamurai9991]

bhai sb thik hai pr camera idhr hai🧐

[@epictetus__]

Bookmark : 36:00

[@GlocalKhabar-ft6us]

Dear Naman How can I connect with Shantanu Sir?

[@lakshmisubramanian9233]

Someone has commented that he is no more.

[@shubham16716]

49:25 Do you already had an offer from LBS before resigning from services...... I think there is a grammatical error in this sentence 🤔

[@manvendranigam2446]

He would have cleared GMAT and deffered offer, Sri vatsa Krishna ( ias Topper had done from Harward B school)

[@ayushtailor9941]

Wow

[@sonalumate13]

Music was not needed at all..

[@smgyan123]

I would seriously recommend to do this kind of podcast in Hindi with English subtitles. People can't learn to respect own culture unless they feel attached to that. This language is very dangerous, works as silent culture killer. Unless you force to stick to your mother tongue at least at public speaking. Your none of the ideas will be assimilate by indians. Unless you speak their language, indian will never accept any of ur suggestions. Unless you guys stop projecting yourself a kind of seperate elite class than the rest of the indians, your entire effort n time will be waste. You have to consciously throw Macaulay out of life at least at public forum so that masses understand you n respect your achievement better. Your efforts will be waste my friend.

[@atulgupta2152]

❤❤

[@jyotipande8146]

Do not understand why anybody from Madhya Pradesh , Indore, must come from a "humble background". About 1 hour 30 minutes

[@SanghPath]

😄

[@mv1022]

Dear naman.I dont know why you have so much negativity towards the civil services.Its true that CSE is overhyped.and its not as glamourous as potrayed in our society.But it is necessary that youth should pursue the services so that the quality of the services improves..It is important to remember that many officers have silently worked for ages.without any credit.Most recently .if you take the case of covid 19.When politicians were running away.it were the officers who were coordinating medical help and managing hospitals.and doctors.. It is so easy to give up..To blame the system.But if nobody pursues CS.i donno in which direction our country will go.So please put aside Grapes are Sour attitude..and stop the negativity..

[@shubhamchauhan6836]

Is see govt services as parrots in cage , rather be a top class engineer , surgeon , NAMAN BHAI i like ur background music 🎵

[@Brodragon2225]

corrupt only survives in service

[@Blueeyettan]

Bro why are you so negative ?

[@Immortal_lion99]

he is truthful. If you feel its negative then you are either brainwashed or have a really thin skin, and emotionally unstable mind who starts to cry at the smallest insult.

[@tejusm4510]

Lol video is very long. Can anybody type it in short please.

[@themacacahermit7532]

why

[@behappy.796]

Those who resigned were maximum males , for females things are completely different(His wife would be supportive )but for women things aren't easier

[@Muleslover]

Such sessiona are need more than anything else other tham coaching flase glamarisation of success story of #UPSc passed candidate who often talk preplaned wish of coaching #mafia.

[@namanshrivastava]

Thanks for your kind words! Wish you all the best

[@highlyambitious]

Naman sir, u r the beam of li8 that shades off the darkness of mind one has...here's a request, kindly do bring some courses or internship kind of thing in which we interested students can participate on basis of our interest on learning,growing,contributing and earning as well not on basis of wat degrees are we holding bcz there are lot of people like me who have interest and desire to work in an guided enviroment but no guidance also the traditional routes are very time consuming and tirey where one exausts his/her energy or get completely lost themselves..like I m witnessing now after giving two unsuccessful attempts in UPSC and switiching to State PSC which are so erratic...not to miss the increasing taunts and marriage pressure and lot many things when u feel crippled due to inability to improve family sitautions n miseries. So if u can help these kind of students it will be highly cherished and welcomed. Thank you Edit- I came to know about the GGI fellowship sir, may be its mean to ask but still I m asking tht could it be something like Pay after placement kind of thing. Cz it will be immensely immensely helpful for people like us. I cnt convey my interest to join such initiatives as well as cant convey wat circumstances going through. I will be very happy if this small msg reaches u Sir!

[@MemesMovies-yc7jr]

May his soul rest in peace