Why I Chose Icon Stage 7 Suspension for my 4Runner

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Jason Koertge

Jason Koertge

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Icon Vehicle Dynamics Stage 7 suspension setup for my 5th gen 4Runner - Loving this setup thus far! 4 weeks in and I couldn’t be happier! This is the detailed install video and WHY I went this direction with my suspension setup!
#toyota #4runner #overlanding #off-roading #4x4
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@rogerlopez9375
@rogerlopez9375 5 жыл бұрын
I like this guy....he doesnt know what to buy so he bought the most expensive stage and be done with it....
@himboslice_
@himboslice_ 3 жыл бұрын
lmao exactly what I was thinking
@coreybragan2902
@coreybragan2902 2 жыл бұрын
Im thinking that too
@kpd174
@kpd174 6 жыл бұрын
The mechanic seem annoyed with all the questions and you hovering over him.
@CCMCJONESEK
@CCMCJONESEK 5 жыл бұрын
I was annoyed too. And I skipped thru the b.s.
@joed.2283
@joed.2283 5 жыл бұрын
This is a snarky comment, but from these videos I get a sense that Jason is an annoying guy in general
@upsetpatient2528
@upsetpatient2528 5 жыл бұрын
Well when he’s dropping 10k i guess they don’t care if he’s annoying
@Driftcorpz
@Driftcorpz 5 жыл бұрын
29 mechanic's agree
@RavenHiker89
@RavenHiker89 5 жыл бұрын
@@Driftcorpz I got pissed watching him ask. Woulda told him to go in the waiting room.
@moabman6803
@moabman6803 6 жыл бұрын
You have a nice setup. Asking a mechanic questions while he is working is not a good idea. You can tell you were distracting him because he gave u very vague/brief answers. Hes trying to concentrate on the task. So u got him trying to install the stuff correctly, and answer your questions. You need to let the guy concentrate so he can do his job correctly and not make mistakes. It's better to ask your questions before or after the job. Or add narration during editing.
@5ohJ
@5ohJ 4 жыл бұрын
Moabman yep, the owner is a dilrod
@brawldawg8729
@brawldawg8729 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Been there, before. "Sir, I don't mind talking to you, just let me know what you want me to do; focus on your vehicle getting the work done properly and efficiently, or stop what im doing so I can focus on you." To his credit, he is trying to glean information that some of us that have worked with our hands for years, seem to have within our double helixes - which I can respect. He is just doing it the wrong way, at the wrong time. If people would use their Google devices for something other than social media, the World would be a better place. I just remembered a few times in my early years of wrenching where I had a customer asking me all kinds of questions while I was trying to work. I politely left the vehicle, went to my manager and asked him if he wanted to pay me to be interviewed, or to perform the necessary repairs to the vehicle. Of course he came out, took the customer back to the corrale where he belonged, and I finally got the vehicle finished. I will always say that Informed customers are better that the alternative, but damn...
@jcart011
@jcart011 4 жыл бұрын
@@brawldawg8729 Obviously - he is getting them a lot of free marketing. I'm sure they dont mind. He probably drives enough business to them to make it worth talking to them.
@mikekay213
@mikekay213 6 жыл бұрын
Love the channel, the editing, an ordinary guy having the rig of his dreams, no need to hate...
@LastLineOfDefense
@LastLineOfDefense 6 жыл бұрын
Your rig is turning into a BEAST, Jason. Makes me want a 4r...
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
haha. Thanks! When I got home - my wife was like... whoa.. looks... tough! Loving it thus far! Love your taco though man! We need to find a time to get together!
@Libertarian_Neighbor
@Libertarian_Neighbor 6 жыл бұрын
4runner is the obvious choice, who would drive a Tacoma anyway... Edit: I wanted a Taco, but the wife didn’t want the dog riding in the bed during inclement weather. I told her it’d toughen him up. No go. Love my 4runner despite 14mpg.
@LastLineOfDefense
@LastLineOfDefense 6 жыл бұрын
Would love to, man!
@tacoma_jon
@tacoma_jon 6 жыл бұрын
I’m just here following Mike from channel to channel 😂😂
@Belsyd
@Belsyd 6 жыл бұрын
What's kind of gas milage do you get with that set up?
@singletrackftw
@singletrackftw 6 жыл бұрын
Here we see Jason “justifying” his purchases. This is a result of 2 communities clashing and bashing heads. This is a result of people being “too critical” and very negative. Whether you’re a hardcore rubicon crawler-Wheeler dude or an instagram weekend warrior - the fact is - we are all entitled to use our funds and resources to buy things we like. Also, as men, can’t we all just say we love the GEAR? And MODS? What a bunch of children we all sound like. Smh.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Like like like!!
@teddyjakeddy975
@teddyjakeddy975 5 жыл бұрын
If you got it, flaunt it.
@freedomrider266
@freedomrider266 4 жыл бұрын
@Duncan Macleod Do you heal yourself when you're sick? Do you form the child in the womb? Stop the "real men do all their own wrenching" crap....If you can, do it...If not, take it to someone who can.
@fmmrz5
@fmmrz5 6 жыл бұрын
The factory makes the control arms purposefully weak so that in an accident they bend first because those arms are cheap and easy to replace. When you have really beefy aftermarket arms sometimes you can bend or break the mounts or subframe etc
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Fred Mccue interestingly good to know!
@mgltacoma
@mgltacoma 5 жыл бұрын
which control arm? Rear upper?
@brendangibson5790
@brendangibson5790 5 жыл бұрын
"I did a lot of research" Asks about rear track bar 5 minutes later... "I don't think I have one now"
@user-ot9vo3pm1h
@user-ot9vo3pm1h 3 жыл бұрын
This cracked me up
@ryankraus6936
@ryankraus6936 5 жыл бұрын
"I don't know what I'm doing" but spent $6.5k on suspension parts.
@michaelwas8549
@michaelwas8549 5 жыл бұрын
6500? HS!
@dominiquestephenson195
@dominiquestephenson195 5 жыл бұрын
Worth every penny. It’s a killer setup!
@heritagecruiser
@heritagecruiser 6 жыл бұрын
I still enjoy the channel, but from an editing/viewing standpoint the constant cut ins and cut backs are very distracting and frustrating to the flow of the video. It’s become somewhat of a signature edit for you, but it’s very noticeable in this video. It used to be amusing for a quick cutback to explain one thing in depth, but when it happened 4 times in a span of 10 minutes it takes away from the overall production. Just as I’d feel I was getting into what was going on you’d cut back to a 2 minute ramble about something. Anyway, just one persons perspective. Have been enjoying the truck updates-it builds the anticipation for what’s yet to come. Looking forward to more adventures-come explore Texas, would love to see your take on Big Bend!
@David-eh8rl
@David-eh8rl 6 жыл бұрын
it's the sole reason i fast forward his videos.. he has good shots off road,, but **** man stop with the cut outs and rambling... Ill go back to venture 4wd channel and be happy.
@TheKPDX
@TheKPDX 6 жыл бұрын
Except that venture4wd never reads or answers the commentary in his videos. I find it a frustrating dead end commentary channel.
@dominiquestephenson195
@dominiquestephenson195 5 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda like watching “Blimpy explains 4x4”. Lol
@zurizaday12
@zurizaday12 6 жыл бұрын
The most important point that you forgot to mention is that UCAs in the front fix camber when it comes to alignment. Yes they give you about 2inches of droop but the most important factor is that they keep your spec alignment which helps your car drive like it should and not wear your tires unevenly. Love how your rig looks man! Keep up the great content coming!
@bugobe
@bugobe 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about caster too. The stock UCAs on Toyotas give you almost 0 caster as it is, when you lift it you lose what little there is and the truck is a pain to drive straight.
@Flyanb
@Flyanb 6 жыл бұрын
Seems a little over the top for some gravel road driving with the fam. I’m kinda getting the “sold out” vibe. I want last year back man shit changes fast.
@marccruzz1
@marccruzz1 6 жыл бұрын
Damn so many people hating on Jason because he can afford the parts that he wants. More power to you man keep up the good work!
@francowj
@francowj 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, so much hate on some of these comments. Although I think you don't need any of all this stuff at all to get out there and have an adventure, it sure is nice to have and if you can afford it, why not!!
@David-eh8rl
@David-eh8rl 6 жыл бұрын
I dunno man.. Go watch his "Should I buy a Land cruiser video"
@Andrew_Venn
@Andrew_Venn 5 жыл бұрын
It's how he articulated the video, and the fact of him being in the bay, seeming to bother the installer. And he lack of knowledge towards the kit, he was just to spread out on his explanation.
@jiflynn
@jiflynn 4 ай бұрын
Just got my Icon Stage 3 today on a 2016 Trail. Massive difference.
@EmpTy-kf2rq
@EmpTy-kf2rq 6 жыл бұрын
No, alignment person won’t adjust the rear arms. Better flex because the OEM sleeve doesn’t rotate within the bushings whereas those do. The reason you need to reset the bushings on all OEM bushings after doing a lift otherwise you’ll tear the OEM bushings.
@adamfrazier584
@adamfrazier584 5 жыл бұрын
Such a good channel. I love the candid “I don’t know what I’m doing” because that’s me. I’m buying an FJ62 and trying to educate myself via KZbin. Your channel is encouraging and inspiring. Thank You.
@gmcenroe
@gmcenroe 5 жыл бұрын
Nice kit, I thought when you started with "Thank you wife," I thought that sentence would end with "for letting me spend this much money on my kit" :-) It looks like you get what you pay for with this kit. I liked the videos of suspension at work too,
@MikeR-rd6ni
@MikeR-rd6ni 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like Christmas came early for Jason! CBI and Icon sponsored the kits and video?
@JourneyWest
@JourneyWest 6 жыл бұрын
Let him who wouldn't get sweet suspension if he could afford it cast the first stone. I can't hate on Jason because I'd do the same if I had the cashflow! In the meantime, though, if anyone's looking for cheap-ass overlanding fun, I'm over here bouncing around on stock suspension at kzbin.info 😄 (I'm actually planning to do a series specifically about overlanding on a budget starting in the next few weeks!) Jason, just keep doing your thing, man. I'm excited you were able to get this set up, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it works out for you.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks James!!
@drewd.2232
@drewd.2232 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! “One less Hater” here Jason. So glad you like the new ride. Isn’t all the added articulation great? It really makes the truck even with having the KDSS already. Can’t say enough about the adjustable shocks either. You definitely did it right. Thanks for sharing.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks drew! Loving the setup thus far!
@TheKPDX
@TheKPDX 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, KDSS & that adjustable suspension - looks like a great setup.
@svassau
@svassau 6 жыл бұрын
Wohoo!!! Always like your videos. Great suspension for sure. Probably 6x cost of your OME 👍
@javierherrera9450
@javierherrera9450 6 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how far you've come and how much Moolah you've dropped haha Cheers!
@proofpositive2379
@proofpositive2379 6 жыл бұрын
you need to be honest with your viewers, since it looks like you sold out to your sponsors.
@gabinobejaran6951
@gabinobejaran6951 5 жыл бұрын
Imma be real with you. I love your videos. They're like real genuine reviews and Intel off what uou feel as opinionated. You aren't pretending to know something you don't. Keep the videos coming man. Love them.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keepin it real!
@tonysilva8222
@tonysilva8222 5 жыл бұрын
It’s what you like not what everyone else thinks
@Captndarty
@Captndarty 6 жыл бұрын
You’re getting those icons because you likely have more money now and are OCD and fiddly lol. I get it Im OCD and fiddly too which is exactly why I put the 3” OME’s on my Tacoma. Simple plug and play suspension I’ll never have to fuss with when I add a hundred Lbs here and there and I won’t have knobs and calves corroding in the winter.
@TheKPDX
@TheKPDX 6 жыл бұрын
It was great to see that you could keep your KDSS. The end video really shows it doing its thing. I REALLY like ours & wouldn't have one without it. You can definitely feel it when cornering and even the washboard effect was lessened. Toyota of New Zealand has some nice vids showing it work in the Prado & LandCruiser. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hH2pZ6Fpo7Kqrdk & kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJOac2melKiBr7c Next you'll have to figure what to do with that freed up spare tire space. Australian rigs will often put water or fuel in that location.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
I know right! Love having it. And that space up there! Feels like I need to use it for something!
@adrianw3985
@adrianw3985 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the installer using so much copper anti-seize, that will help keep it from squeaking. Should make it nice and quite.
@manchild111
@manchild111 6 жыл бұрын
My name is Jason too. Looks AMAZING Jay.. ICON 7 is my dream lift. lol Congrats. Also. FYI. YOUR EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE GUIDE that is attached to the stock drivers side REAR LOWER Control arm and has the E brake cable running THROUGH IT..... .... Get a pair of pliers and grab it and STRAIGHTEN it out so the the sheathing does not start being CUT by the cable guide. I just so happen to be a Mechanical Engineer by trade and a back yard mechanic for over 32 years. With owing over 100 cars in my life (hand to God) I've had my share of lift installs. So even with all my experience, I know enough to let a shop do it. I am to old to be rolling on the ground (47 lololol). Now I can afford to pay some (complaining about his job) 30 year old to do it. A lift really helps. If I had one I would do them all day long. lol Again, Congrats and God Bless. Oh and Thank you. My questions if you don't mind..... 1- Does it come with Front Diff drop kit and brackets for the reservoir shocks, front and back.? 2- did you use the 52700 rear coil springs or the 3" over lander 52800 springs?
@slixxster5118
@slixxster5118 5 жыл бұрын
3- Were the rear brake lines also replaced during this process with extended ones? Awesome suspension BTW!
@moondog573
@moondog573 4 ай бұрын
$7,500 for a suspension is insane. I'd be really interested in knowing what your total vehicle weight is when going down the road loaded for a trip. I can't imagine you have not gone beyond GVWR significantly.
@marcintopor7710
@marcintopor7710 6 жыл бұрын
Please let us know the long-term review of the icon stage 7
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely will. It’ll take months of driving on it. But I will definitely keep everyone updated.
@Clayjones80
@Clayjones80 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I just purchased a 2019 Off Road Premium (Fiance wanted "leather" because of dog hair cleanup) and judging from some of these comments I probably shouldn't discuss or post any info about it! I enjoy your videos and also your personality that comes through in your enthusiasm while interacting with everybody around you. Keep doing what you're doing and enjoy the rig, your time with friends and family, and the beauty of the open spaces you find along the way!
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clayton! And congrats! You’re gonna love it!
@shark2075
@shark2075 5 жыл бұрын
Can tell the mechanic is a fellow Mountain Biker from his Scott t-shirt and the nice hardtails in the back of the garage. Props to him for that and for his good work.
@erikaslt
@erikaslt 5 жыл бұрын
Why so many haters on what he got or how much it cost. Yeah, suspension that have engineering, testing and quality behind will cost you. It’s not a cheap product. Not everyone has to buy cheap shocks. The front UCA help with wheel alignment, tire clearance and the delta joint is supposed to be stronger over the oem joint. The rear arms. The heim joint will have you sacrificing some ride quality because there is no rubber bushing to take the bumps.
@dunnoyolo2238
@dunnoyolo2238 9 ай бұрын
Only thing I don’t like with kit is you can’t adjust ride height without taking front coil springs out of 4Runner. And you can adjust Ride height with Eibach while on 4Runner
@stevegreen245
@stevegreen245 3 жыл бұрын
Nice film. I have icon stage 7 on my FJ cruiser as well. I went with the Billet aluminum parts. However it was not necessary. Looks cool but the metal tubes would have been fine. The system makes lots of noise. But you know that already. I've been running the setup for about 5 years. With no problems. One thing you might want is. Total chaos front lower control arms. The race version gives you more ground clearance. And man are they stronger than stock. I even jump my FJ now and then. No problem doing that ether. Have you had any trouble with your setup?
@dereykperkins6282
@dereykperkins6282 5 жыл бұрын
So, the title states "why I chose" but you had no idea why you chose it. You were asking all the questions during the install that should have been asked before the purchase. You basically spent 5k+ and then asked questions later. Reality is, you didn't even know "why you chose". But hey, you had the money and you wanted to spend it. Just seems like you would have asked all these questions before dropping 5k and putting it up on a lift.
@nikolaidesaintandrieu3532
@nikolaidesaintandrieu3532 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked on the video hoping to get some information on why you went with Icon vs OME because you seem to have a following so I expected you to have some knowledge of a basic bolt in suspension, yet you seemed to stumble around the shop and fumble over simple terms. Not saying you aren't a smart man, but don't post a video if the only reason why you got the "stage 7" suspension is because it had the "cool little clicky dials" that you'll use as a boasting point. Bummer bro
@kirkdunn1379
@kirkdunn1379 2 жыл бұрын
cant revalve the shocks using clickers......they are just fine tuning feature, but those are rebuildable, serviceable and tunable.......can be revalved to whatever you want.........best feature on KINGS, Fox, icon and few others is its the last shock you will need to buy and thru trial and error tune it to get it just way you want
@eddiecruz8528
@eddiecruz8528 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to have this done to my 4Runner. I have the stage one icon lift. Cool vid thanks for sharing. Don’t worry about all the haters and negativity. Gonna sub and watch more of your cool vids.
@flawlessfoose
@flawlessfoose 5 жыл бұрын
I do garage door repairs, and these customers are the WORST. Always asking dumb questions, asking if they can help 10 times, always talking to me, they dont understand that there not the only customer for that day lol. I always charge them more.
@DezyreHD
@DezyreHD 3 жыл бұрын
Jason, serious question. Is there something wrong with your neck articulation? Past Injury?
@cruzjando
@cruzjando 6 жыл бұрын
4Runner of the year!!!!!!
@mauimaui6478
@mauimaui6478 6 жыл бұрын
NOT EVEN ......LOOK AROUND!
@UtahNick71
@UtahNick71 6 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a 4R, but I ended up with my 4th Jeep JK Recon. I love the way the 4R rides compared to the JK, but there is no better looking off road vehicle than a lifted Jeep IMO. I love this build, Jason. I still follow you even though I'm no longer looking at the 4R.
@jonc7371
@jonc7371 6 жыл бұрын
The 4runner definitely sold me as the nicer looking off road rig. I thinks its cause every mall crawling jeep is lifted these days so it looks rather normal.
@jks6172
@jks6172 3 жыл бұрын
recently i got a 2020 tundra .... wife say i want new pilot as hers getting old... so i looked online got a 2018 dark Blue 4runner on way "new to me" as you say and 1st thing is this set up icon i think is best for what you get so i'm looking forward to it thanks for info
@ianlloyd4301
@ianlloyd4301 5 жыл бұрын
i can tell this is the kind of guy that spends 25k on his 4runner , gets tired of it and sells it 3-4 years later with the asking price of 55k and expects to get every penny he spend on his upgrades. lol he will find out the hard way on pimping this ride when people only want to offer a couple grand over book.
@getsomedonkey
@getsomedonkey 6 жыл бұрын
I own a 4Runner and found your channel because I am thinking about upgrades. Your videos are awesome. Shrug off the negative commenters and keep doing what your are doing. Videos are not easy to edit, keep it up my man.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott!
@testing12357
@testing12357 5 жыл бұрын
Does CBi typically do Icon Suspension or was that a one off for the channel? Very interested in having them do the same bumpers, skids, sliders, and Icon suspension?
@guidedbyimpulse1965
@guidedbyimpulse1965 6 жыл бұрын
Wooohoooo! 😂🤘🏼
@mauimaui6478
@mauimaui6478 6 жыл бұрын
WHY DID YOU NOT DO THE WORK YOURSELF!?? GUESS CAUSE THEY GAVE YOU ALL THE CRAP FOR FREE!....THATS NOT OVERLAND! THATS BOLT AND GO!
@SAPPER510
@SAPPER510 6 жыл бұрын
Whoever you work for, I need a job! So I can buy a bad ass ICON stage 7 suspension lift with front and rear bumpers and full set of under armor skids.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Haha. Entrepreneurship is the only way to go. But it takes work and time to get to where you want to be!
@SAPPER510
@SAPPER510 6 жыл бұрын
Great! Hire me and you will have one helluva employee and overlander friend. 😊
@raifzakhem
@raifzakhem 5 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Any regrets or lessons learned from all your upgrades? I’m looking at the stage 7 setup and had concerns with it working with the KDSS on m TRD off-road. And info on integration with kdss? Thanks.
@FordFan8691
@FordFan8691 5 жыл бұрын
hang on to the OME coilovers!!! when u want to send off the icons at 40k miles for maintenance. u can reinstall your OMEs while u send off the icons!!!
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very good thought! I'm hoping they'll last a little longer than that though!
@FordFan8691
@FordFan8691 5 жыл бұрын
@@SwellRunner i got about 50k on miles on mine, being negligent. i can tell they dont ride like they used to... i cant really afford to park the truck for 2 weeks while they get rebuilt either! just food for thought!
@JMVideoProjections
@JMVideoProjections 5 жыл бұрын
Again, you talk too much. Sometimes it feels like you don't know what you are talking about. Reminds me of ....
@eazye8313
@eazye8313 4 жыл бұрын
Used 3 inch for 1k?
@dubhealedlouiedawg
@dubhealedlouiedawg 5 жыл бұрын
I love how it seems like he understands basically zero about what's happening to his vehicle. Also... why does the offroad community charge 10X more for components than everyone else? These aren't going on a damn Ferrari...
@freedomrider266
@freedomrider266 4 жыл бұрын
Of course not...Ferrari's are some of the MOST sensitive vehicles on the planet...That's why you cannot work on them anymore...These parts will take abuse and provide stability that a Ferrari could never do...Two COMPLETELY different platforms and experiences.
@ianlloyd4301
@ianlloyd4301 5 жыл бұрын
adjust the dampening......lol. this guy just has lots of money and no idea what he is doing. he says he has done lots of research but you can tell he has no idea about cars .
@timothyandrewnielsen
@timothyandrewnielsen 6 жыл бұрын
Damn 4Runners are just so baller looking.
@JamesTalbot
@JamesTalbot 6 жыл бұрын
I want that Icon setup... been dreaming of it since my first overland trip in my 4Runner. I need some stronger coils before my Baja trip, but I don't have the budget for a stage 7 this year. I'll probably just do something like the OME coils for now. I'm curious to see how well your CBI back bumper holds up, I've heard both good and bad about their rear bumpers hold up. I had a good laugh when you brought out the cookies. They look exactly like the ones we make here (secret ingredient is vanilla pudding). They are fantastic. Still loving your channel... wish I had enough time to video more of my adventures.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
I’m curious how it’ll all set once I adjust the front higher some. I ran the OME setup for 2 years before I went to this setup. Super happy with it, but I also wouldn’t have done it any other way.
@NeBoFoRiOn
@NeBoFoRiOn 5 жыл бұрын
you got it because you can afford it only reasone daa but id do the same ofcourse
@luisandluisgabriel6778
@luisandluisgabriel6778 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Jason... thank you. I am anxiously looking forward to the front bumper video. I’m curious of the benefit of a full bumper. Thanks again
@svassau
@svassau 6 жыл бұрын
Luis De La Cruz Munoz he lives in deer country, one collision pays for itself. Just like the Aussies who are surrounded by Kangaroos and need full bull bars...
@luisandluisgabriel6778
@luisandluisgabriel6778 6 жыл бұрын
Stewart Vassau Makes sense. Down here in south fla, it’s hard to find a deer when your trying to let a lone hit one.
@Grey86
@Grey86 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn't come with the uniball Lower control arms?? Just upper?
@denweigel400
@denweigel400 5 жыл бұрын
Jason, nice upgrades with the new suspension. My brother has a silver 4 runner just like yours. We are wondering if you could let us know your previous lift and tire size. I know you’re a busy guy, but we would greatly appreciate your response. Thanks a bunch. Love your videos. Always high quality and the best of scenery. Thanks a bunch, Dennis
@1FiftyOverland
@1FiftyOverland 5 жыл бұрын
Job $500 Rancho rs9000xl's could have done.
@cj0204
@cj0204 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know your ride had KDSS. Wow! Stage 7 icon! Pretty damn impressive!!
@jogutierrez3953
@jogutierrez3953 6 жыл бұрын
After having an Xterra I was planning on getting a Tundra next. But having watched what you have done so far with your 4runner I have changed my mind.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh. But the tundra has the 5.7 liter!! Make sure you consider the increase in power!
@francowj
@francowj 6 жыл бұрын
Get the tundra!! More HP!!!
@TheKPDX
@TheKPDX 6 жыл бұрын
Very different vehicles. The Xterra is on the small side, the 4Runner is a big midsize and the Tundra is just plain big. I borrowed my ex-brother-in-laws 2nd Gen Sequoia for the Mojave Trail & Owen's Valley, Death Valley, etc. It's a completely different vehicle though I loved it in it's own right. I was surprised how comfortable I could be wrangling such a monster.
@EmpTy-kf2rq
@EmpTy-kf2rq 6 жыл бұрын
😕The UCAs don’t stick out further. They are actually shorter to fix the positive camber induced by adding a 2.5” lift. Don’t ask technical info about the product, from a tech. Links should’ve been left the same length or even shorter than the factory. And it seems the upper rear arms were put on the wrong sides as the logos are upside down - no biggie.
@minisaba87
@minisaba87 6 жыл бұрын
For someone who has a shop, he doesn't know much of the terminology of what he is installing. Nor does he seem to know what he is doing. Adding suspension components changes the geometry of the suspension and he should be able to explain that in a fluent manner. When he said he adds another 8th from stock I laughed than unsubscribed. Last video I watch.
@EmpTy-kf2rq
@EmpTy-kf2rq 6 жыл бұрын
minisaba87 he’s just an employee. CBI is owned by someone else and CBI specializes in fabrication of bumpers and armor.
@changes165
@changes165 6 жыл бұрын
Those tubulars will make it impossible to align that IFS now as well. Every time you call ICON they'll make you feel like crap for not getting the Billet.
@EmpTy-kf2rq
@EmpTy-kf2rq 6 жыл бұрын
James Simpson billets are not needed for an alignment. The cam bolts are all that is required. The aftermarket UCA fixes the positive camber induced by the lift.
@changes165
@changes165 6 жыл бұрын
@@EmpTy-kf2rq that is not true. ICON clearly states that the billet UCAs will help you further with Alignment adjustments. The CAM tabs on the 4Runner are super weak as well and known to be thrown out of line fairly easily. King makes aftermarket CAM tabs that can be welded on and which are a lot stronger.
@Toyota4Runner5thgen
@Toyota4Runner5thgen Жыл бұрын
Love the video you posted very informative. It helped out a lot. Thank you.
@anthonytrujillo7971
@anthonytrujillo7971 6 жыл бұрын
The rear upper control arm links are designed that way to give torsional resistance. The bushings have no flex in them so when your suspension articulates or you take a corner it's relying on the sway bar and those upper links to keep the vehicle flat. You would notice added body roll without them. Maybe the Kdss will pick up the slack.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thank you!
@whazupmike
@whazupmike 6 жыл бұрын
There are many negative comments. Maybe because Jason's wife is allowing him to buy all the upgrades he wants and those guy's wives don't allow them.....😂😂😂 Jason definitely got $$$ and endorsements. 4runner looking like a beast!
@jaycompton4012
@jaycompton4012 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been a lot better video with more of the actual install instead of talking
@TechCrazy
@TechCrazy 2 жыл бұрын
The moment they drilled holes into the frame, rust is going to start damaging it now.
@jodycorbitt8671
@jodycorbitt8671 6 жыл бұрын
Woo hoo! (haha) Love the content Jason! Glad you stuck with the 4Runner...it's a great platform.
@FullSendPrecision
@FullSendPrecision 5 жыл бұрын
Having owned Jeeps and Toyotas.... Jeep makes so much more sense for an offroad vehicle. Parts are so much cheaper, and so much easier to work on.
@jamesiepooh7337
@jamesiepooh7337 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! solid front axle over IFS all day, but I do love my FJ for being a good commuter, and also a fun trail tackler!
@williamcorrales1878
@williamcorrales1878 6 жыл бұрын
Favorite bumper for 4runner, looks even better.. seems more practical.. come over landing to Costa Rica
@cullennowell
@cullennowell 5 жыл бұрын
That's why every shop has an employees only sign going into the shop. The service writer got his ass chewed after letting him back there.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 5 жыл бұрын
Haha. So you think the owner of CBI didn’t sign off on me being back there? Because he did.
@RoamingLost
@RoamingLost 6 жыл бұрын
woo hooo gotta love a 4R
@michaelramirez2988
@michaelramirez2988 2 жыл бұрын
How did everything work with your KDSS system.
@gerardomata.costarica
@gerardomata.costarica Жыл бұрын
You have to appreciate this editing. So satisfying!
@rickmanley767
@rickmanley767 3 жыл бұрын
I hope all these non stop add breaks help you get some of that money back
@davidg7538
@davidg7538 6 жыл бұрын
This channel has sort of jumped the shark. Such a bummer. I don’t blame anyone for trying to make/save a buck but if anyone has a recommendation for new channels that are similar to Jason’s in the beginning I’d love to know about them.
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
We all evolve man. My intention is to have fun and enjoy what I’m doing - sometimes it won’t please you all!
@davidg7538
@davidg7538 6 жыл бұрын
I gotcha. Fair enough
@RandyPollock
@RandyPollock 6 жыл бұрын
David G you read my mind, this has become a channel of how much money can I spend on gear and a lot less on hitting the road with the family for fun and adventure. Great guy and seems like a lovely family, just seems it's more gear less adventure now..hey it's his channel so not knocking it just losing interest for me.
@mauimaui6478
@mauimaui6478 6 жыл бұрын
ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!
@David-eh8rl
@David-eh8rl 6 жыл бұрын
Check out Venture 4wd the most relaxing overland channel out there.
@airfelisan9344
@airfelisan9344 6 жыл бұрын
Hafa Adai JASON I love what you do keep vídeos going .
@davidespinosa8320
@davidespinosa8320 6 жыл бұрын
What size is your spare tire underneath ?
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Same as all around. 285/70/17
@davidespinosa8320
@davidespinosa8320 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Koertge I was told that it won’t fit.... thanks
@2001FLHr
@2001FLHr 5 жыл бұрын
David Espinosa a BFGoodrich 285/70/70 AT will fit. At least it does on my my 2010 trail.
@blackackcl
@blackackcl 6 жыл бұрын
That is a hell of a setup!
@4LOWeRUNNER
@4LOWeRUNNER 4 жыл бұрын
Did you hear any driveline noise after installing the rear links? I just installed mine and after 2 weeks started hearing the differential rocking when shifting into drive. I would to ask you some questions about this if you have the time. Thanks.
@patrioticcigarpage7369
@patrioticcigarpage7369 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2021 4Runner trail special edition. Love watching your videos and seeing what mods you do. Also these guys just being negative on your videos need to learn how to watch and enjoy or don’t click on the video. You obviously talk about how you are slowly learning and don’t pretend to know everything. Love the content keep it up man.
@allenp4058
@allenp4058 6 жыл бұрын
I get that some people are starting to feel detached from your channel because you’re obtaining something that’s unattainable to most. Also, the fact that someone else installed it, makes it “bought not built”. With that said, I definitely feel envious, but I can’t hate on someone who makes an honest living and has the financial means to have these things professionally installed. A true “off-roader “ does not entail having to install and build everything yourself. At the end of the day, as long as you use the rig for it’s intended purpose, you’re good to go. Keep doing what you’re doing man. I have LONG way to go with how I want my rig to be, but it never stops me from going outdoors and camp in remote places. Cheers!
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don’t get that at all. The money I spend is nothing compared to many that I follow. I’ve been watching so many for years wondering how the heck they afford this stuff. I’ve had my 4runner for almost 3 years and I’m just now getting to what many would consider a proper suspension. If anything I’m late to the game! I didn’t install my first suspension setup and it was infinitely simpler. And honestly I don’t personally care to do an install myself, I typically don’t have the time to spare.
@jackbauer9347
@jackbauer9347 6 жыл бұрын
Don't justify your purchase to others. You only live once, so if you have the rest of your obligations squared away buy what you like. You use your shit, so it's not like it going to be some garage queen.
@TheKPDX
@TheKPDX 6 жыл бұрын
I understand a little as I think it has exceeded what most can or will do but really, a pretty reasonable mid life crisis, right? I bought a used G coupe for my DD and the sales guy was like, "This is your mid-life crisis?" My wife said, "It's the little things that please him".
@kingof901s
@kingof901s 5 жыл бұрын
@@SwellRunner same here man. I work overseas constantly, so when I go on R&R I dont want to waste time to install anything. Especially when I only have 30 days of leave. I just ordered the Stage 7 billet as well.
@medicdan5981
@medicdan5981 6 жыл бұрын
Should put the white lettering in imo... love the channel. Keep it up!
@Grbravo
@Grbravo 3 жыл бұрын
Jason, I lost my Wrangler due to an accident so I’m looking at buying a 4Runner off-road. If I’m understanding correctly you kept the KDSS and added the ICON suspension. From your knowledgeable background with your Toyota, is the KDSS worth it? Can you install the Icon suspension without the KDSS and does it ride just as well? Right now the car market is crazy! Used 4Runners run as much as a new one but you have to wait to get a new 2022 for up to 6 months! So I’m trying to find a 4Runner OffRoad that I can get wheels and start building. So I’m in sponge mode as I adapt to a new car. Any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely yours, Robert
@michaelfitzgerald1328
@michaelfitzgerald1328 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a truck and forget building one out of a SUV.
@B_M_F_710
@B_M_F_710 5 жыл бұрын
That mechanic does not like annoying soy boys beta males.
@fade2blak91
@fade2blak91 6 жыл бұрын
Another good video man, tough crowd in these comments though. Truck looks awesome!
@SwellRunner
@SwellRunner 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@carloblanco2165
@carloblanco2165 6 жыл бұрын
I just realized that the Icon is taller by what seems to be like an inch to the 4runner now
@TheKPDX
@TheKPDX 6 жыл бұрын
It will settle some. New springs are always a little bit taller at first
@dakumilife
@dakumilife 5 жыл бұрын
6 hour install? Ha likely. Less kids = more sanity. Such a long video. Not hating, but saying.
@jefffarage2083
@jefffarage2083 6 жыл бұрын
Jason the rig is looking nice, you parameter have changed since you left Destin Florida and running the old fire trails in Florida and Alabama. Now that you’re in Utah you’ve definitely upgraded your rig to meet the terrain and needs. I am sure Jason would love to do the mod himself but why spend the money and risk your life to put on shock, it cool but if you can have someone else do why the hell not. (That’s why there is 4 Wheel specialties shops that do the work). Jason I know you’ve been running the BFG A/T 285 70 17 how do they work for you. I am looking at the Cooper Maxx or the BFG. I use my rig for hunting 20% and the rest personal 80% hwy and city. I just want a little more aggressive tire that won’t make a lot of noise. Keep up the good work.
@stephaniecurlee6936
@stephaniecurlee6936 6 жыл бұрын
Whooooo hoooooo
@longbow0728
@longbow0728 6 жыл бұрын
Still say Kings or Fox should have been considered.
@jwuhome
@jwuhome 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this suspensions compare to the TRD pro Fox suspensions. I googled it, this Icon S7 costs about 6k. If this is comparable to TRD pro Fox, it may worth the money just to get TRD pro for people considering getting a new 4Runner. Another questions is does swapping the suspensions about void the warranty?
@Rhouzv
@Rhouzv 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoy watching the videos. makes me miss my old 97 Tacoma and 99 4 runner, but I did luck out on a quite capable rig that's totally stock and goes everywhere all my friends in their fairly modded Toyotas and jeeps go. So until my $7000.00 H3 with Adventure pkg stops getting the job done, I'll just watch and dream about the day I win the lottery and can have a new Toyota lol. Keep making vids so I can live the Toyota life vicariously through you =)
@kingsqueak2221
@kingsqueak2221 5 жыл бұрын
I'm happy for the mechanics and shop owners that the "overlanders" exist. It's a bit disappointing when you watch and realize most of them don't have any appreciation for what the equipment they have is or does. I watched one of these last night, a guy put King long travel on his rig and the only reason he did it was for the look of it, bypass shocks and all. No clue what long travel means, or why it is used, he just wanted a taller stance. He could have done that with spacers. It's also too bad that none of them really appreciate the outdoors, it's just a gear obsession. The down side is that the movement is about showing off what you bought to the group and land access is disappearing in the Northeast because they travel in huge groups and are causing problems with litter and congestion in back country areas. North Maine Woods as one example in particular.
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