Why I didn't buy a Yamaha

some of the reasons I bought a Scarab and not a Yamaha
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[@Racerboy535]

I will also add the reliability and longevity of the Yamaha is the best.

[@Bubbles99718]

Sounds like your trying to stir up a Ford vs Chevy debate. Success. :)

[@lecovio]

Without cleaning ports, i would never get that.

[@thorb5191]

You need to adjust the volume to make it steady in your videos. Have to turn it up to hear you talk then the music comes on and it about blows my ear drums. Anyways a good point of comparison and I'm now looking at the scarab really hard

[@swbidx6965]

In Florida especially when I go to the keys the ports are wonderful because of all the sea grass and yes you can get a rope out of the ports. It was hard but I forgot my knife in the truck, but was able to untangle the rope in about 30 minutes and didn't have to get in the water. But I do agree scarab boats do look absolutely amazing. I got my Yamaha almost 5 years ago and the only thing I had to do is standard maintenance.

[@Mistyxcats]

yamaha for me is better engine. now the rotax im dont no.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Yamaha makes great boat for sure! my friend has a Yamaha yxz utv he races pro. He's broken every piece of suspension on the car, but is still running the original engine and trans. That's a testament to their reliability. but I love my Can-Am x3 with Rotax turbo power. I don't think the engines will be a week point for scarabs.

[@Racerboy535]

I have a Yamaha and I’ve sucked up a rope and that port was a game changer when it came to being out on the water and being able to access that impeller shaft from the top.

[@vikfan4life]

Nice boat. I wish I could afford it. I just bought my first boat. Only paid $1,000 and saved for 6 months. I’m looking forward to fun days on the water

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Seth Henry Nice! I never thought I would have a boat that cost this much! Keep working at it and you’ll be surprised at what you can do!

[@maloy331]

clean out port is so much better than the scarab..the sleave is great for the rope but the grass will clog it and you got to dive in to clean it out.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

I would agree that the impeller sleeve isn't going to keep weeds out of your intake. definitely depends where you are going to do most of your boating. I run mostly rocky bottoms in clear water. I've only had to pull a few small sticks out so far. But if you're in more natural lakes and rivers you might have more weeds. So for me I like having the bigger storage on the swim step and not having another kill switch to worry about. plus it's hot where I'm at so I'm usually in the water anyway! Lol! Thanks for watching and commenting on the video!

[@johneel7766]

Scarab is nice ..but the cleanout port on the Yamaha is a plus , its part of the reason i didnt buy a seadoo back in 2007...ive sucked up a rope and was able to get it out thru the port ...depending on the time of year im picking out seaweed a few times a day thru the port ....great video , beautiful boat ..Good Luck

[@jetboatjohn8171]

John Eel Thanks! And thanks for watching! I would say you made the right choice.

[@cannedham3774]

I looked hard at that scarab before purchasing my AR240. Scarab is of course an awesome company and I love CAN AM/BRP.. but I just couldn't do it without having those clean outs.. I've owned my AR240 for 2 years now and we have sucked up two ropes so far.. one time it got sucked into both engines while tubing (blaming the wife 100% for this one lol).. But man, without those ports we would have been stranded out on the lake. Both times we were able to work at them enough to get them out and we even saved the rope.. You think you can just pull the rope out of there from the back? haha.. Better bring your scuba gear and hope your hand fits through the intake grates... happy boating

[@TheVonMatrices]

I won't buy a Yamaha boat because of their lack of engine options. The only engine in their twin-engine boats is a NA powerplant until you spend over $150k. Outside of the 27 footer, the only Yamaha twin-engine boat that has a supercharger is the 252XD, their most expensive boat. As of right now, my next boat will be a Scarab 215 with twin 300s. I was unsure about the color but was leaning towards the blue interior and gelcoat, and seeing it in this video just confirmed it is the right color.

[@billbobaggins801]

Reliability goes Yamaha! Craftsmanship goes to Yamaha! Seating goes to Yamaha, Power goes to Yamaha, Ramp Presentation goes to Yamaha, Resale goes to Yamaha! I think I'll stop at this point but if you need more help just go look at some of the KZbin reviews of this boat to the Yamaha 242. It's a shame you went with the cheaper but you got less boat....silly rabbit!!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

billbo baggins funny thing about opinions. Everyone’s got one. One of the main reasons I bought a Scarab is because I thought Yamaha’s seats were cheap and uncomfortable. Scarab’s have more power. But Yamaha ‘s are arguably more reliable. I definitely think Scarab’s look better. Nothing uglier that a tan Yamaha on a single axel bare aluminum trailer! And you are right! I did pay way less! Oh did I mention Yamaha’s slow speed handling isn’t even close to being as good as a Scarab’s? Like I said many times I do like Yamahas. Just wasn’t the boat I wanted.

[@billbobaggins801]

@@jetboatjohn8171 Reviews don't lie Johnny, the review of your boat are not good! Not just regular John's but the serious one. Good luck with your boat......:)

[@jetboatjohn8171]

billbo baggins Thanks for the comments! Let’s have a conversation without insulting me Just because I didn’t buy the same boat as you! So I’ll help you find the door! Whatever happens to my boat I’ll share it here in realtime. You can’t get a better review than that! Happy boating!

[@billbobaggins801]

Your just upset because you've seen the reviews, your boat is NICE, and you don't need to own the Yamaha 242. I never said that but you assumed it. You have called me names and it's said that no we're in my text have I done that to you? You just don't like that someone doesn't care for your boat, and you don't like people's opinions on your boat. If your gonna put stuff out here on the web dude you better be up for people's opinions. Maybe you shouldn't put your boat above other's and just do what you like and love about your boat! Oh.....and I don't think your stupid or and A-hole. Be safe too with your boating ☺️

[@jetboatjohn8171]

billbo baggins not upset at all. I’m not a Scarab fanboy. If that’s not the boat for you I respect that. if my boat turns out to be crap I’ll share that. When you meet a John maybe wait a few days before you call him Johnny or silly rabbit comes off a little insulting.

[@k0rc]

Nice video overviews / comparisons. . . but please equalize the intro and exit audio volume! It just about blew my ears off !!!

[@chrislange5321]

Great video & great boat! I really thought I wanted a Yamaha jet boat until talking with my cousin (he sells boats at a Skipper Bud's dealership here in Wisconsin.) My cousin introduced me to the Scarab & my wife and I fell in love with the brand instantly. Unfortunately we are not able to purchase one at this time, but when we are ready for a different boat I want a Scarab 215 or possibly a 255. I'm amazed at the features the Scarab has & the fully liquid cooled engines with actual antifreeze is awesome. From what I have heard these Scarab jet boats are a dream to drive & drive like no other! I really like the Yamaha boats & Yamaha in general as I have 2 of their snowmobiles, but it will be a Scarab when the time comes!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Thank You! I can tell you Scarab's really do handle Amazing! We thought we would have to wait longer to get one than we did. hope the same happens for you guys!

[@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel]

Wow that's a beautiful area! Would love to live near the beach.

[@Venumonkey]

Nice review but the Yamaha is a better boat, you could cut ropes from the plug, the rear on the Yamaha is 2 tiered, the tower is way nicer and the Yamaha motors are bullet proof. Center storage on Yamaha is insane can fit fishing rods, has a front ladder etc having said all that it’s based on a 242 limited not a 210. And yeah you would not drive with people on the front unless it’s dead flat sea.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Those are just my opinions.. I didn't like the tower on the 2018 Yamaha the Scarab looks better to me. and is lighter to drop. but the 2019's are different than when I was looking. the Yamaha is 2 tiered but they are both hard surface no padding on the 210 and thin padding on the bigger boats, I have a front ladder, I don't have to worry about clearing ropes because they shouldn't get wrapped around my prop shaft in the first place and I don't have to worry about two more safety kill switches. Rotax engines are solid also. And something I forgot to mention in the video is Scarab's trailers are better than most custom trailers, I know because I had to get a new one after we got hit and our old one was totaled. there are some things I do like better on the Yamaha, like I think it has more storage, I like their seat hinges better too but they used to not have anything holding the seats on in the Yamaha. And the 255 uses the same type now. I plan on doing a video on what Yamaha did better. I looked at Yamaha a few times and almost bought one. but my wife and I just liked the Scarabs a little more. but I have to admit the 2019 AR240's are really nice. thank you for watching and commenting on the video!

[@sauniergmail]

You state that yamaha is better like its a fact. Warranty? Scarab wins, engine reliability? Yamaha jetski engines, the newer ones are out numbered almost 3 to 1 to Seadoo brp engines on the water in last 10 years, they are self cooled and don't have overheating problems from sediment, salt, sand, etc in the cooling passages that is very common in yami's. Power? Scarab wins. Speed? Scarab wins. Handling? Scarab wins. Styling? Scarab hands down other than the new 27 footer tamahas look very nice. Dockibg maueverabilty?? Not even close... Fuel efficiency? Scarab wins. Best dashboard? Toss up, scarab medallion very nice, but have to admit the top yamahas are looking very good. Comfort? Scarab better vinyl, thicker, softer, seats are more plush, . Rear platform? Not a contest, Scarab wins . People who buy jet boats want performance... scarab beats yamaha in literally every category of performance. Literally. Yamaha owners talking for last 3 years about how superchargers are terrible, they break, need maintenance, and look at those "other guys" needing to supercharge their engines making them less reliable than non s/c yamaha engines.. hmm, what's this? What is Yamaha doing now? Following? Now putting s/c's on thier engines to compete?? Hmm. ACE BRP 1600. 300 hp engine , ZERO maintenence supercharger..... Yamaha is still by far the largest jet boat manufacturer and therefore has the most service centers, which is a big deal. But rught now, today, compare the 21s and compare the 25s, top for top.. scarab is a better boat winning in basically every damn FACTUAL category. Yamaha ownerss will always talk about yamaha quality , even when they have friends with blown engines, stripped chargers, etc.. the amount of engine issues that yamahas have had in the last 6-8 years is surprising if you know the numbers. The 4tec brp engines, in stock form, AND when tastefully modified are damn near bulletproof. The new ACE 300 hp engine is phenominal. Steering while under way is far smoother and precise. The boats hull is more responsive and fun. Almost no one looks at the yamaha jets and says damn that thing looks awesome. Scarab? Every time out in the water.. it will take a while, but people who care about things like performance, warranty, looks, comfort, etc.. there will be more and more scarabs on the water. Competition is a beautiful thing :)

[@Nickdevro]

@@sauniergmail Great analysis. So happy I chose Scarab...

[@randallswallow3914]

Thanks for the review. There are things that I definitely like that you point out on your boat. But not having the clean out ports for me are a deal breaker. I had a ar190 and on several occasions it saved my a$$. 2 times sucking up rop. I was able to get at the rope thru the clean out. Didn't ever have to get into the water. Dont get me wrong, it was a job, only because I wanted to save the rope and not cut it. Another time I was in the ocean off of Miami. For some reason there was a ton of seaweed floating around so much so that you couldn't avoid it. So, you guessed it the jet drive sucked it up. Again with the access port it was a breeze, never had to get under the boat like you would on a boat without them. Again IMO you just can't have a boat without them. If you do good luck in cleaning out the drive or drives. THIS IS A BIG DEAL....

[@aerofpv2109]

Really honest discussion that seemed genuine but my most important factor is reliabilty and that's one thing the Yamaha jetboat engines have over all jet thrust engines.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Aero FPV Thanks for the comments! I currently own three Rotax engines with no problems. I guess time will tell how reliable they are.

[@aerofpv2109]

@@jetboatjohn8171 Maintenance is key but there's over two decade of testimonials between Yamaha engines and others and with tons of forums explaining there issues. Enjoy your Memorial day weekend Sir.

[@ReelOne]

Aero FPV Agreed.

[@jordanlanier7063]

Jet boat John Rotax is an unbelievably reliable and powerful motor in all sorts of applications.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Jordan Lanier you’re preaching to the choir. I definitely prefer Rotax! I’ve owned them for years with no issues and tons of smiles! Thanks for commenting!

[@teop7887]

Nope. Yamaha for me. 100% factory made by Yamaha, reliable, absolute beast.

[@gusalmighty5098]

We just bought a 2019 AR240. We like the hinged seats and definitely the cleanouts. The final out the door price at Leaders RPM was $58,298 tax included with 3yr warranty and a custom trailering cover. If I could have found a ridiculous deal on a 255 with the 400hp package and the tower we might have gone that way but we couldn't match that deal when we were looking at 400hp 215's with a tower. Our old boat was a 21ft Caravelle Interceptor with a 300hp 350 Mag MPI and a Bravo 1X oudrive. I though that boat ran pretty strong. I knew jet boats plain quicker than I/O boats, but wow even though it is a bigger boat our 240 is an absolute beast in comparison.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Gus Almighty nice! That’s a great deal for an Ar I never found a decent Yamaha for under $60k I was starting to think a new boat was going to be out of my budget.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Aiden Berliner I’m definitely going to try that next time!

[@georgedepuy8616]

@@720sobsessed6 there really is no reverse on a jet boat it just puts the buckets over the jet drive and forces the water the opposite way

[@colindarchuk6728]

We have a Yamaha and it has the two engine throttles but the scarab only has one even though it has two engines I have found the two throttles to be better for turning around in tight spots and docking I am surprised scarb wouldn’t do the same but I love the look of scarabs tho

[@jetboatjohn8171]

I know that twin throttles can be helpful specially with bigger boats. but the scarab doesn't need it. it is so easy to put this boat exactly where you want it. I get comments and stares at the dock every time! same thing with my sea doo. Brp nocked it out of the park with the reverse buckets!

[@spencerniehaus854]

i have a yamaha sx230 and i love it more than anything

[@lecovio]

I love mine too!! They are the best

[@josepy121380]

I have owned a scarab and it felt cheap compared to the yamaha i went on a couple of times. My opinion.

[@kevint499]

My 2019 Yamaha AR240 has the built in vectoring. Spins in place, that is cool. The clean out ports are GREAT. We have sucked up ropes twice and weeds twice, takes just a few minutes to clear out from the ports. The quietness of the Yamaha engines was very noticeable when I've been on Rotax machines. I do tip my hat to that padded bed on the back, I would like that.

[@rdbuller24]

we pick our AR240 up on the 17th! can't wait.

[@Spirited_Driver]

Interesting you mention the Yamaha's were quiet compared to rotax engines? I always thought the Yamaha's were generally loud especially in the twin engine boat models (in the 18-22-ish mph area..

[@ALLENSVCS]

I bought the Yamaha 212 limited S and love it. Yamaha engines are simply the best- end of story. Clean out ports are great and small kids love to ride up front in the area your boat don’t have.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

I’m glad you love it! They are great boats! That’s exactly what I said that those seats were for small kids. I don’t have kids so I don’t need the extra pieces to worry about. Plus Scarabs seats are more comfortable to me. And I promise you the Scarabs maneuver better in tight busy docks. I just went out this weekend and had guys looking at me picking my way through the cluster of boats to get to the dock to pick up my wife. And you have the option of getting 600hp now. Videos coming soon on that. And like I’ve said many times I like Yamaha boats! I’m not a Scarab fan boy! But when people tell me they are just better because they bought one is laughable to me! Thanks for commenting and watching the videos!

[@ALLENSVCS]

I think we can both agree jet boat are where it’s at! Nice jet boat!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

ALLENSVCS I definitely agree! I don’t regret ditching the prop! It has opened huge parts of the river I wasn’t comfortable driving on with my prop boat!

[@studyasmr4896]

Rotax engines were designed for land use and adapted for marine use later on in sea doo boats , scarabs, and glastrons... maybe that’s why they spend so much time on land being serviced and fixed 🤔 #teamyamaha, #boatsthatwork

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Matthew F. There’s more dirt running through your Yamaha than my Scarab! Lol! #vanillawherecanibuyarudderboat

[@alexphillips4325]

@@jetboatjohn8171 the byplay between scarab and yamaha amuses me to be honest, each power system (rotax and yamaha) has it's benefits and drawbacks. I've driven both and i find the yamaha we own easier to handle, with thrust vector fins on both boats, the rudder on the yamahas just makes them easier to dock. the scarab has better power delivery than the yamaha, but the yamaha is smoother and quieter. I like them both for different reasons. Have a good day :)

[@alexphillips4325]

@@jetboatjohn8171 Oh and you can find the horsepower, it's a japanese manufacturer thing to not list horsepower. Yamaha uses the same engines in their jet skis and the japanese government stepped in during the "horsepower wars" and so people just stopped listing horsepower.

[@johnwild757]

rotax engines were designed for light airplanes nothing else

[@Cornell1]

The design, customization and layout, (duel captains and foldable sun pad) scarab comes out on top, I will say I have cut out rope from the clean out port of my Yamaha

[@jetboatjohn8171]

@@Cornell1 As this video ages Yamaha’s have come a long way. I’ve seen more than a few beautiful ones on the river, but the prices on these boats are insane now! I saw a guy just yesterday pulling his kids and would back up on the rope without a care. I Could hardly watch! That was one lucky guy! lol!

[@MEANSBC]

So now I've owned my 215 for 3 weeks. You ever wish you would have bought the 255??? I kinda do. lol

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Brant Campbell my wife said it was out of my price range, unless you want to sell some of your other toys! Lol! There are some things on the 255 I wish I had..

[@davidgraham5125]

I sucked a rope up in my Yamaha once. Clean out port was great. Took 5 minutes to get it out then back on my way.

[@gransport4246]

I’ve always liked the Yamahas and jet boats in general. They are cool and different, but when we looked at boats two years ago, we discovered the Yamahas had rather thin hulls and not finished well inside of their storage compartments. They reminded me of the old Bayliners from the ‘80s and ‘90s. Just seem to be cheaply made except for the engines which are supposedly rock solid. Chaparral jets have way better fit and finish; however, they come with the Rotax. At the time and mentioned in other comments, I was a little leery of the Rotax reliability; although, proper maintenance is always key.

[@jcayala1972]

You need ask why didn't buy a scarab jet boat.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Juan Ayala I didn’t ask anyone anything. I just explained what we liked about a Scarab. Thanks for checking out the videos!

[@mustangracer5124]

Scarab prices start at about $13k higher than Yamaha, so there is a difference.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

@@mustangracer5124 this video is 5 years old.

[@RickyG225]

Well done sir! Appreciate your honesty. I am seeing more and more of these comments about Yamaha boats. I am sure they are quality, however, the little stuff you alluded to all adds up pretty quick! 21 ft with all that space inside is done deal for the $$$. Or, just have to find something 1-2 years old. Cheers mate!

[@eggymcwolf1]

Nice to see you uploading again. Not a lot of customer reviews and updates on the Scarabs.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Patrick Burckhalter Thank you! Yeah I couldn’t find hardly anything when I was looking to buy. That’s why I decided to do the videos. Going back out this weekend to film again.

[@t-royjk964]

I have the 2020 Yamaha 242x. What I do like better about the scarab is the reverse buckets and the way you can spin the boat when in neutral. I know because I also have a seadoo RXTX that has the same reverse. Really nice feature. That said, I looked at both boats and overall I like the Yamaha better. The touch screen connext system, the motor access, the tower, the more reliable Yamaha motors, the head and those clean out ports are just pure genius, I’ve already had to use them and Yes, you can definitely cut a rope out from the that port. Without that I’m limping back one one motor or towing it back.

[@Spirited_Driver]

...Not to mention the Yamaha you CAN spin it 360 on the spot because it has independent levers for FWD and REV. This is ESPECIALLY handy when you need to back into a dockspace, or turn around in very tight areas where you need a bit of reverse thrust. Can't do that on a BRP in the same fashion. Also, the Yamahas reverse like a normal boat, but the Rotax steers backwards while in reverse which is very counter intuitive!

[@scottspooner6070]

The SeaDoo engine is a closed loop cooling vs the Yamaha.

[@billrapp8517]

John exactly what model and year is that one. I don't see them all with that rear deck/seat configuration but I like yours for that. Thanks

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Bill Rapp 2018 215 id. It a versa lounge. Not available on the smaller ones.

[@rafaeltavares7109]

Terrible boats ,mine its always in the shop ,actually its there now for 5 months they can’t figure out what’s happening

[@jetboatjohn8171]

rafael tavares I’m definitely not going to leave my boat in a shop for 5 months.

[@rylandsmith3494]

So since the jets are right there will they do anything if you you got them or touch when your climbing on the swim deck?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Ryland Smith No they are far enough under the deck that you don’t touch them. Even you did it wouldn’t hurt anyone. When the engines are off the reverse buckets come down and cover the jet nozzles on both boats. You wouldn’t want to be behind any boat with the engines running.

[@angelagola1750]

Yamaha boats are better than that is. My aunt has a Yamaha it has a restroom and has seating either way . it has a table an to seats and it has a gate and a sitting up.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Angela Gola sounds like your aunt has a nice Yamaha! Thanks for watching!

[@alexs3187]

Why can’t any of them make a supercharged twin engine 19-21ft? I want a friggen rocket.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Alex S They do! I almost bought a 215 with twin supercharged 250’s. But my wife didn’t like the interior colors. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Its.slik11]

Because he is not knowledgeable of the performance difference

[@mrDmastr19]

4:50... totally agree as a Yamaha 212x owner, the one thing that really bothers me is the reverse buckets. Yamaha claims that their design is superior, but I’ve now owned my Yamaha and I use to own a standard reverse bucket jet where the thrust is direct to the sides. Sides is way better than the downward Yamaha reverse thrust. There’s a longer delay on the Yamaha reverse and there is less control. Jet Boat Pilot came out with an additional lateral thruster attachment, different from the thrust vectors; it actually takes about 20% of the downward reverse thrust and throws it to the side. It looks legit, but who wants to spend 500+ on Reverse, I’ve chose to deal with a less superior reverse. I’m sure Yamaha doesn’t design something similar as a standard because they probably get a kick back from the JBP sales. A negative by product of capitalism- 500 bucks extra for decent reverse lol 😂 oh well 95% of the time the throttles are forward.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

In my video 'we have a problem' there is a new 212x that had some thrust vectors built in. they aren't as big as scarab because of the articulating keel, but at least they have added more into their design so you don't have to buy more after market products. definitely something I want to do more videos on.

[@xtune5731]

Coming from a fan of seadoos, this thing rocks!

[@altroisi308]

5th year of coming to Key West to take my Scarab off the rack and it doesn't run. SCARAB IS NOT DEPENDABLE . . . . . PERIOD!!! . . . .I am trading it in and buying a Yamaha!!!! . . . . . Do you're research!!!! Looks do not mean anything if you do not run!

[@MichaelTonyp]

nice boat

[@sebastianquintana3248]

215 cost too much, I rather get195 Yamaha for cheaper

[@jetboatjohn8171]

I wouldn't, get a 255 that's for sure! there's a lot of boats out there for that money!

[@sebastianquintana3248]

Jet boat John I can’t afford it. Trying to get the cheapest new boat. Yamaha is calling my name for Lake Michigan. 35k is still a lot.

[@doolittlegeorge]

Big fan of the new Scarab Center Console and big fan of the jet boat/impeller drive and manuever system. Not a fan of side stick controls and boats that are difficult to move around from the interior. Nice review!

[@rdbuller24]

Jet boat John - love your videos, I've watched every single one multiple times (along with all the Jet Boat Pilot videos and any other video I can find on the Tube). We pick up our AR240 on the 17th out in Vegas. We were all about Scarab until we went to Gailey's in Bakersfield (where I believe you boat yours) and discovered they no longer are a dealer. No close Scarab dealer. Bert's Mega Mall in Covina didn't want to play ball with our Pontoon trade in so we wound up in Vegas. Can't wait. Just like you say over and over again, time will tell on Scarab vs Yamaha. I think they both have their Pros and Cons. Keep those videos coming!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Randall Buller Thank you so much! AR240 is a beautiful boat! I had a feeling about Gailey’s that’s why they had such a big discount on my boat. Just not their market, they are mostly high end ski boats. Bummer because I really those guys. I tried to buy a Yamaha from Bert’s and their prices were ridiculous! If you ever get out to Laughlin or Havasu let me know, would love to get the boats together for a ride!

[@rdbuller24]

@@jetboatjohn8171 Will definitely let you know. I've never been out to the river but have been looking into it and talking to a couple people (maybe you've met him, Scott Hall who has a Howard Custom Boat with a blown Chevy). I'm a bit nervous, honestly, having never been out to the river and I'd have my 2 kids in tow. Maybe next summer I'll make it out there.

[@tedolphbundler724]

Why the stoner music?

[@lindaholloway4888]

My friend had a seadoo boat and it was fun when it wasn’t in the shop.. I prefer a outboard.

[@somebeachtoo]

I don't think Yamaha even lists out their horsepower? Seriously? The Internet is a powerful tool for the tool. Just apathetic.

[@navigator8420]

i buy and sell jet boats and jetskis...i love my yamaha's... i have 3 23 foot yamaha right now...i avoid seadoo jetskis as they are not worth putting a engine back in after supercharger parts go thru the engine...but i will buy the seadoo boats ... the seadoo clam shells are better around the dock, but once you know how to handle a yamaha you dont need the fins.. ive sucked up a rope... the clean out ports are very nice till they cease...most rental companies run yamaha for a reason... reliability...until you get to the supercharged 1.8L yamaha that smoke supercharger clutches in just a few hours(friends GP1800 41 hours)... as for the HP wars... seadoo like to over rate their numbers.. and yamaha doesnt want to play that game ...they actually under rate theirs... your scarab is a beautiful boat.. unfortunately the weak point in the longevity of the boat is the BRP engines

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Navigator8420 honestly the Brp engines are the least of my worries on this boat. They fixed the superchargers in 2017, but my boat is naturally aspirated. I’m much more worried the electronics and they fact that boat dealerships are discontinuing their Scarab sales. My nearest Scarab dealer is four hours away from me now. I do most of my own maintenance on my boat and my Can-Am X.3 so I can get by. I can order parts and get work done at the Can Am dealerships. But if someone wasn’t able to do any of their own work that should be something they think about. Still love our boat!

[@JetBoatPilot]

For clarification that only occurrence of a tower failure that we are aware of was on a Ft. Lauderdale to Bimini Bahamas crossing in really rough water. Not sure if the threaded knobs were installed correctly but I did want to make sure that it was not perceived that Yamaha towers were falling often. This was a isolated incident that got shared around the forums alot, to the best of our knowledge.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Jet BoatPilot Thank you for commenting on the video. Still not sure why they put the bolt in the direction they did? But I know they have redesigned the towers. One thing you’ll never hear me say is one boat is better than the other. I just give my opinion of what I like. I’m still a big Scarab fan. But doesn’t mean I wouldn’t take a new Ar240! Nice jobs on the new surf vectors By the way! Looks like you guys have been working hard on it!

[@JetBoatPilot]

@@jetboatjohn8171 thanks, yes and still working to make them better. Thanks for reaching out.

[@Linkskyfyre]

Yes, it's features are nicer, but the yamaha is way cheaper. So, it comes down to what you pay for. I mean, just searching up prices, for a baseline 215 Scarab as of right now, is over 60K. That doesn't include tower, floor features and creature comforts you have. The closest equivalent I found retails at 90K within a 500 mile radius of Bullhead city(Where I live). Now, compare that to an AR220 which is out the door at 56K. The price is night and day. So, I'm curious, did you buy through dealership or private sale? Is the boat used?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Prices on everything are insane now. if you can even get one. when I bought my Scarab I had looked at Yamaha several times first and they were all more than what I paid.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

First I bought my boat new in Bakersfield Ca, In 2018. And if you live in Bullhead buy a Yamaha. No dealer support out here. And last no way in hell are you getting a Yamaha for 56k out the door! Almost fell out of my chair laughing! Bullhead Powersports hasn’t even had a Yamaha boat in stock since Covid. It’s over a year wait for a Sea Doo or Yamaha pwc. And there over 20k.

[@hambone4495]

close looped system to if I am not mistaking

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Ham Bone yes it is! I forgot to put it in the video.

[@SatonProduction]

Does Ar195 and 195s have breaks on trailer? Does it come with 4 or 7 pin connector?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Don’t know the answer to that! I would go on the Scarab jetboat Facebook page and ask Lenard Marrist. He would know.

[@josephcolangelo898]

I own a 255 id scarab and The reliability is horrible i will never buy a scarab ever again

[@mattcarter259]

Wnat sold me on the yamaha was the readily accessible clean out ports

[@mattmoore1630]

Does the Scarab have clean out ports?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Matt Moore no clean out port on scarab.

[@chevy4x466]

I think scarab, Yamaha, chapperall, sea ray, cobalt are excellent boats. Really comes down to the deal and the people at the dealerships.

[@mspartybootdeutschlandgmbh1301]

Nice video. I have the predecessor of the scarab jet boat with 2 rotax engine an, intercooler and I have to admit this beast the a killer. Fuel consumption is decent too. Enjoy

[@Giantsblue23]

I like that too...Im brand new at this...does it have more horsepower than a yamaha? Reliability?

[@IWNTYU]

I'll wait until Can Am starts making boats. We r a Can am family

[@1stzard]

Scarabs are nice, but if you want to do any fishin this is not for you

[@sarahann530]

That's like saying Corvette is not for you because it cannot carry sheets of plywood .

[@1stzard]

@@sarahann530 I carry sheets of plywood in my vette all the time

[@sarahann530]

@@1stzard In the trunk? If I was carrying sheets of ply all the time I would rent a pickup rather than tear up my vette . I guess you are one of those guys you always see outside Depot cramming shit into their vehicle and tying it with a piece of string .

[@sauniergmail]

Ger ejumacated.. :) 600 hp open fish center console... www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=2ahUKEwjqo4fTwtHiAhXMJt8KHUxaBKMQwqsBMAh6BAgKEBA&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov

[@sed6]

Look how much room you get on that small boat. Jet drives rock!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

sed6 you definitely free up a lot of space with the compact engines and jet drives! Thanks for watching!

[@meacomefeyou]

But is the Scarab easy to clean or maintain like the Yamaha? Whats your maximum speed?

[@jeff301700]

I bought a 2017 212x and have had a lot of problems with it ! You are right about the reverse it stinks!!!! With all the money you pay for a boat there is no excuses.... The trailer is as cheap as they make..

[@jetboatjohn8171]

ted roccie Man I’m sorry to hear that! It’s a bummer we pay so much for these things and still have to worry about something big happening and not being able to use our toys.

[@bigpookie1122]

Oasis Super Storage is the Best. I'm in the 1900 building. Lol

[@mikeyP9000]

That the Avi in the background?

[@sundew2007]

This should be called why I couldn't afford a Yamaha.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Lol! don't you worry! I can afford all my toys and then some! and if I'm paying more than 60k I wouldn't get a Yamaha or a Scarab!

[@Chrisamici]

What is the horsepower and top speed?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Chris Amici my scarab has twin 150hp nonsuper charged. You have supercharged options of twin 200, 250, and 300. I haven’t pushed top speed, but I’ve had it to 45mph. Probably not much more.

[@KjetilBalstad]

55K? In Norway you'd have to pay 63K for the base model, the cheapest option you can configure...

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Kjetil Balstad I was lucky to get that price here! No way I could find that deal now!

[@onebigj4u]

You got my vote when you said CanAm X3 💪👊

[@davidnevins4883]

Where were u boating ? Loving the homes on the waterfront.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Needles, California on the Colorado river. those houses are on the fort mohave, Az side of the river.

[@zakimus]

yamaha is typically priced more friendly as well

[@jetboatjohn8171]

That hasn’t been my experience at all. Everywhere I’ve looked at a Yamaha they were much higher. Even put it in one of my videos.

[@greygoose4x46]

Great video and good luck with it / from all my research, which I am no expert ... I'm surprised that you went with a scarab, I haven't seen too many positive reviews on them

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Grey Goose 4x4 Thanks! At the time I bought it I never found a Yamaha that knocked my socks off! The ones I found were pretty plane Jane and over priced. I’ve seen a few since then that are nice, but I still like the seating layout and the look of the Scarab’s better and the handling. I’m not worried about the Rotax or the jets. It’s the same stuff in the See-doo Pwc. The Rotax in my x3 is a beast! Hopefully I don’t regret it later. So far I’m pretty happy so I guess that’s one good review! 😁👍 Thanks for watching the videos!

[@williamharper9893]

What should your number one concern be when picking a boat? The Motor!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

William Harper That’s why I bought a Scarab! Rotax for life! Lol! 😀👍

[@icawn]

thank you for this comparison insight. you have 2 nice toys there. mind if i ask your profession and how you handled costs? thanks.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

icawn Thank you! I’m a driver at Anheuser Busch. And my wife is assistant director for our hospital. We Just work hard for the things we enjoy doing while we still can.

[@steveprice5664]

John, you have a VERY sharp looking boat! I certainly agree I like the looks much better than the later Yamahas. The cleanout ports on the Yamahas work pretty well. Many people don't maintain them properly and have trouble getting them out when the day comes that they need to remove them. Otherwise, it's a good feature. Yamaha has had trouble with the plugs blowing out and they've finally re-designed them to prevent this. If you have an older Yamaha, you really need to tie the plug together so you don't lose one if it blows out. As far as getting a rope out of the driveline, the best way to do it is to remove the spark plugs from the affected engine. This allows you to rotate the engine backwards and unwind the rope. You can grab the driveshaft coupling on the back of the engine, or reach into the jet pump and turn the impeller (watch for sharp edges). Many times the rope won't even be cut.

[@Broccolidiesel]

What model scarab is this??

[@jetboatjohn8171]

215 id twin 150's

[@ColorCrimson]

At around 0:58 it shows a boat beached in area with a bunch of cars in the background. Where is that place?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

ColorCrimson The Avi Indian casino. It’s a nice place and has a kOA campground behind it they partner with.

[@ColorCrimson]

@@jetboatjohn8171 Very cool. Thanks

[@yourmedicareguylarrybelt7792]

Kinda dont have much respect for Jet Boat owners out of the gate . All the negs just dont outweigh the have to have a prop thing. Given that if someone put a gun to my head and said " the only way your getting on the water is with a Jet Toy" I wouldn't consider anything but a Yamaha. If place s to lay is your criteria pull a raft or get a Pontoon.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

What I mean by a place to lay is, You hang out at the back of your boat most of the time. The girls are laying on the boat and the guys are usually standing in the water at the back while your sitting at a beach or in a channel. that's how most boaters on the river use their boat. I don't know what you mean by you don't have respect for jet boats? I Don't think you have any knowledge of a modern jet boat! and I've had more than a few prop boats in my 30 years of owning a boat. having jet now has opened up huge parts of my rivers and lakes that I was unable to get to with my prop boats without the fear of damaging another prop or hitting my out drive on a sand bar!

[@sauniergmail]

I don't say this with a shitty undertone, but you may think differently if educated more on newer jet boats. I have had many boats, ski boats, fishing boats, bass type boats, bay boats, grew up in south fla been on boats a lot.. the are reasobns why the are tons of diff types of boats.. but id bet that many of the reasons why you may think all jet boats are toys, all have been put to rest in last 5 years. #1. Steering.. you may think that docking a jet boat is hard.. if so you are wrong. Scarab/BRP true nuetral system is phenominal and is easier to maneuver than ANY propeller set up, other than a quarter milliin dollar boat with side thrusters. #2. Jet drive boats today for the size they are compared to prop boats are just as expensive, more comfortable, more capable, more room, better handling, more maneuverable, etc. So, if they are "toys" in your mind, then I assume your boat is also a toy. My Scarab is $95k, is 25 ft, has 600hp, goes 64 mph, handles 3-4 ft WAVES while running through them at 40mph... it also cruises at 32 mph while achieving nearly 4 mpg with 8 people on board. It has a head, sink, seats 13, doesnt need engine maintenance for 100 hrs, can operate in 18 inches of water, no need for lower unit maintenance, no prop damage, etc... maybe you are a fisherman.. look at the Scarab 255 Open.. 600hp, 25 ft, open fisherman, center console, capable of shallow water AND open ocean fishing.. you may not be educated is all Im saying. If you are already educated in all this, then you may just be very biased. :)

[@yourmedicareguylarrybelt7792]

​@@sauniergmail Sorry if I made this too personal. To each his own. I really don't need an "education" on jet boats. They are what they are. There is no perfect boat, but there is a reason they sell a fraction of what prop boat do. . Some things you didn't mention. 1) Noise. Don't tell me they are not. I hear them come in and out of my Marina all day long. 2) Maintenance. Do a search for Jet boats on Craigs list. 50% will tell you they are selling with a blown engine. 3) Gas cost.

[@studyasmr4896]

@larrybelt. ..... yes you need an education on her boats. Yamaha is statistically a more reliable engine than mercruiser, Volvo pentas, and certainly rotax engines. Any unless you are talking about engines 2007 and older , noise deadening advances have made the boats emit less decibels than a 19-21 foot sea ray. It’s ok not to know, the jet boat community will welcome you with open arms when you are ready.

[@sauniergmail]

@@yourmedicareguylarrybelt7792 when you say things like 50% of jet boats are being sold due to blown engines. You lose credibility. Ih well, Its all good

[@Nickdevro]

Hey John, you just got hyped by Scarab boats on FB! Niiiice! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Nickdevro Really??

[@Nickdevro]

@@jetboatjohn8171 facebook.com/146929732154394/posts/1254644654716224/

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Nickdevro Nice! I would totally be willing to review a 255 for them! Lol! 😁👍

[@Nickdevro]

@@jetboatjohn8171 With the new twin 300's?? Oh yeah baby!! I'm happy with my 195 for the moment, but I have to say, I'm more and more thinking about the twin 215....😍 Maybe in 2021....🙏🏻

[@hd95]

What body of water is that?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

hd95 it’s the Colorado river near Needles, Ca or about 30 min from Laughlin Nv.

[@hd95]

@@jetboatjohn8171 Looks great. Fresh water, lots of sand, gentle slopes on the shores

[@johntarr6204]

The rotex motors are not reliable whatsoever. Way to do your homework!!!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

John Tarr I don’t have to look it up. Look at my other channel Knuckles up Sxs. I literally have hundreds of friends running them. I don’t know of anyone having problems with them.

[@jerzeykev2907]

Where was this filmed? Looks very cool.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Jerzey Kev On the Colorado River between Laughlin Nv and Needles Ca. The river boarders Nevada and Arizona and then California and Arizona. We love it!

[@jerzeykev2907]

@@jetboatjohn8171 Thanks for that! Loved the video and wold love to noat there some time!

[@JustOneSmallExplorer]

Damn, just when I was set on a 210 😬😱

[@jetboatjohn8171]

If you’re set on a 210, go for it! 😁👍

[@bettywilson9470]

Bought our AR210 last season. LOVE IT!! If you buy one, you wont regret it.

[@jamesjannell8706]

Beautiful looking boat.

[@thisguyincincy]

Where is this?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Colorado River between Needles, California and Laughlin, Az. where all the cars by the beach is the Avi casino.

[@paulgilmore3137]

Thank you for all the information. Beautiful boat.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Paul Gilmore Thank you so much!

[@paulgilmore3137]

You are welcome.

[@92plofahad]

Yamaha the best no need to talk japan 🇯🇵 baby 🤣🤣

[@rylandsmith3494]

If you stop on 27 seconds that’s me house

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Ryland Smith lucky! Love those houses! Life goal for sure!

[@Chrisamici]

Where is that?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Chris Amici Colorado River between Laughlin Nevada and Needles California.

[@InNeedOfSpeed]

I certainly agree on the reverse buckets. I don't understand why Yamaha doesn't use a version of the Waverunner buckets, they are a big reason why jet boats are so great. With twin engines you can even crab walk if you know how, but not with the stock Yamaha buckets. When I get one I will definitely install Waverunner buckets.

[@Spirited_Driver]

The Yamaha buckets are detached so that they reverse like a normal boat, the Rotax buckets are attached which causes it to steer backwards/opposite direction while in reverse which is very counter intuitive! I have crab walked Yamaha boats sideways, its easy with the separate twin controls that BRP doesnt feature.

[@clintandcarriecook3289]

Curious if you cross-shopped the Chaparral Vortex.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

ClintandCarrie never found one near me. But did look online at them.

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Same drivetrains and gauges. Chaparral makes nice prop boats! Maybe better built hulls, higher price.

[@studyasmr4896]

Vortex is a dog, sharp lay out , shit engine

[@bks252]

Matthew F. I have a 2018 VRX 223 and it rocks. Engines are great. It has an adjustable neutral and it’s closed cooling. I love mine. I looked at Yamaha and picked the Vortex over it.

[@deancoburn944]

@@bks252 Don't understand why there are fewer and fewer dealers carrying Vortex boats!

[@Foxtucky]

Junk. You should of got a real boat

[@radghorabi4316]

nice boat but these reasons you mentioned are first world problems

[@jetboatjohn8171]

Pretty much! 😂

[@mannyruiz9011]

Jet boats are the worst headaches on the water😱

[@josephcolangelo898]

Your better off with a Yamaha trust me ive had both a Yamaha 212x and now the 2018 255 id and im going back to Yamaha for 2020 because scarabs are just horrible DO NOT BUY ONE TRUST ME!!

[@jetboatjohn8171]

What problems have you had?

[@dennisreynolds6915]

Yamaha is the best

[@mattschepker210]

Yamaha Yamaha Yamaha is the best

[@landonp1000]

The scenery is beautiful! Where is this filmed?

[@jetboatjohn8171]

on the Colorado River between Laughlin, NV and Needles, Ca. Thanks for checking out the videos!