Why I DON'T Use Opaque Coolant for Water Cooling

This was a little bit of an investigation into this new coolant and why it went bad. We're actually in the process of building a 2nd rig to test this as well. We need to get to the bottom of this issue.
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[@stretchelold]

This channel is so high quality ! love it

[@KlaireGearSeekers]

Thank you so much!!

[@mrthemoonbear]

Pure mank. More surprising than the discolouration to me is that it managed to leek out the top of the res just sitting there. Had the coolant eaten away at seals or something? Love these informational vids you do, the fact you speak like a human lets me actually learn new things.

[@GearSeekers]

The o-ring on the res cap was basically dust lol

[@michaeljanapin9528]

That definitely looked like the fluid in my radiator. LoL.

[@memeprogression7085]

Really helpful, thank you very much.

[@Danth01gt]

Interesting! Will be eager to see if you figure out what happened! Another good example to stay simple with your coolants!

[@GearSeekers]

I have my suspicions

[@janodenbach374]

@@GearSeekers Can you share your suspicions please ?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

I don't know what strawberry milk you guys have been drinking, but if that's the colour of strawberry milk, you might wanna send that back to Coles and ask for a refund. Next video: Coles vs Wooly's. Strawberry milk review and comparison. Does it taste good? Can it cool my computer?

[@GearSeekers]

Let's do it! hahahaha!

[@KlaireGearSeekers]

Sorry I'm lack toes in toddler ant

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@KlaireGearSeekers r/boneappletea ;)

[@PCPAyLOAD]

The longest lasting opaque coolant I have used was the new P1000. I got about 3 months out of the White. It needs to be run frequently you can't just leave it sitting for a month. But yeah, opaque coolants are a pain in the ass for a little extra bling. IMO not worth the tear-down unless you use soft tubing and a test bench.

[@boostedmedia]

So what was causing the leak on the res in the end?

[@Phalaxis83]

Great video. If I went custom loop think I'd stick with clear liquid. Hopefully for TT is was just a bad batch

[@zeddybuddy8619]

nope..it chesmical reaction..it normal

[@TekTherapy]

Actually that coolant looks like me after a night of vodka red bull... Fun aside, i sadly had similar issues with different coolants (mainly pastel based stuff) breaking down in months as well killing even pumps.

[@fruityoverlord9937]

I just run clear, looks good anything with the LEDs being able to shine through and no problems with colours (I had issues with a colour staining my tubing etc). So much less worry.

[@SunDevilThor]

Awesome root cause analysis, even if your hypothesis appears to be wrong. Please do an update if you hear that Thermaltake found the cause. Side question: What is that light you are using in the background from 7:52 - 8:51?

[@GearSeekers]

We're currently building 2 new loops with different materials to see if anything changes. The Lights are the Yongou YN300 AIR panels

[@jakehancock2888]

I used to have a watercooled rig with pastel pink, and it lasted 6 months fine, it was mayhems fluid, though it did was stain all the blocks and pipe. My dad's currently has mayhems pastel white and it seems to be splitting a little, but nothing too bad, its just a small amount of transparent fluid sitting on top in the res, but it disappears when the system is powered on. Though for both we used a mayhems blitz kit to clean everything before putting any fluid in. I think running it might have helped. Mixed metals is also a very bad thing to do imo, even if the fluid says it can do it.

[@GearSeekers]

First of all the loop was cleaned properly lol. I've built hundreds of them. Secondly this fluid is designed to be run with mixed metals. The colour change is due to the way the coolant was created. It's not like Mayhems at all. The reason why Thermaltake asked us to do this test is because I know what I'm talking about lol.

[@jakehancock2888]

@@GearSeekers You seem pretty defensive, I wasn't saying that you built it wrong, having watched a lot of your videos I don't really question your ability to build computers :) I was just putting my own experience here, as you presented a worst case scenario. I agree they are less reliable than clear fluids, and always will be purely because there is no such thing as an opaque liquid. I'm interested to see how the second one goes 🙃

[@GearSeekers]

@@jakehancock2888 There is still not enough evidence to come to a conclusion yet. We are building 2 more loops to test this again both with different configs.

[@glutenfreegam3r177]

Any updates from Thermaltake on this coolant?

[@brdon2099]

Hey can you make a video on how to setup the rog strix lc 240? It's a really good looking cooler that virtually nobody has made a video on. thanks! love the content

[@GearSeekers]

No. Sorry.

[@ralfyrules]

It's one of two things: bleaching of the organic dye, if the color is dye based, the conjugation of the bonds are changing and its shifting the absorbance spectrum into the UV. likely this is a cross reaction between the dye and other dye molecules or other stabilizing agents within the mixture. The other thing it could be is particle agglomeration. If the color is from nano particles suspended in the mixture, if those particles stick together, it changes the absorbance profile of the solution. This can happen very easily if there is a change in pH, which can happen from components leaking ion.

[@joshuamcpherson1612]

Old video and idk if this has been said but is it possible the binding agent and pigment need motion to keep it mixing and when it sat for so long it separated and the pigment faded which would mean 6 months maybe with regular usage but only a month if it just sits

[@notion8340]

just wow, since summer is coming and it's getting hot should I switch to an AIO ?

[@noxusman6347]

No depends on air cooler

[@Xpl0jd1]

This is why i use Mayhems liquids only today, iv tested most of the brands and Mayhem is the liquid you just put in and can run for a year, even with their Pastel. its insane how good coolant they got.

[@janodenbach374]

What was the problem ? I have a completely the same issue and color of my water from dar red became light roze and i seen in all my tubes sort of white sediment everywhere and I thought it was the dye gone bad. I think that could be issues with some old dye in the radiator but I rinsed the radiator more than 4 times. Does any one have a clue ?

[@APSTechnoLogics]

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[@TheBoma1000]

ive been using the same mayhems pastel white coolant for 4 years and its still perfectly fine

[@killianjones224]

The coolant probably separated into a clear red on the top and an opaque white on the bottom, and all of the clear red leaked out of the top of the reservoir.

[@mylobishop6748]

How do you not have hundreds of thousands subscribers!?!

[@GearSeekers]

People watch and don't subscribe lol

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@GearSeekers Because you guys are KZbin's best kept secret! But we need to be a lot worse at our secret keeping. :)

[@mylobishop6748]

@@GearSeekers Or the messed up algorithm... Nice camera shots have you got a background in video production?

[@HiiipowerdanniRuns]

This is the same thing I asked myself. Such a big quality channel

[@BlackhatXII]

Because for water-cooling, he's actually pretty mediocre. There are couple other channels which are aimed at extreme watercooling enthusiasts. Still good channel though.

[@techclub8528]

This happened to my mayhems pastel blue within like 1 month of use, I flushed it then went for EK mystic fog and that only lasted like a month. My loop is only copper/brass no Aluminium

[@EverydayVaping]

Thanks for sharing this. hey, mate just have a question I am going to test water cooling for my PC just wondering does the coolant liquid require to mix with normal water or just coolant liquid?

[@GearSeekers]

this is premixed.

[@wintejr]

@@GearSeekers For a new builder what coolant do you recommend? I ordered all my components directly from Bykski so i definitely want to run anti corrosive but am unsure of what is the best tested fluid on the market that will keep my system cool and clean.

[@itsadamz7451]

What green colored coolant should I put in my pc

[@FreeLivingProject]

Some dyes are pH sensitive. I wonder what would happen if you played around with the acid/alkali balance of the fluid and if you could get the color back that way.

[@GearSeekers]

It's not dye. It's literally watered down paint

[@andrebenoit404]

I got 3 years out of my blue and it was still kicking strong. Just changed it because I wanted to try green. Same thing with green. 2 years now no problems.

[@cguzmanify]

Wow that’s crazy, I’m getting ready to try water cooling for the first time and I’m scared of using colors. They look amazing but I think I’ll just go clear to begin

[@KlaireGearSeekers]

Good luck! Come show us your build in our Discord when you're done, We'd love to see it! :)

[@TravSmitty]

I have ran EK Cyro Fuel (Not the solid) in my loop for around a year. I have swapped from green to blue and no issues. Everything is peachy. The only thing I noticed was the soft tubing was a little cloudy when I did the flush. With the coolant in there you cannot even notice. I do monitor it and make sure everything looks good and my system does run a lot. It has held up well I plan on using it in my new computer once I get it done. I am going dual system dual loop hard tubing for this one so I am pretty amped.

[@MisterSiga]

man really loves his thermal take lol

[@Captain_Dark]

This happened to my pc it fell out n settled in the loop and radiators so now they don't work as well as they use too.

[@tarushvarmamookerjee8699]

Off topic but do the mh752 s have good noise isolation

[@GearSeekers]

They sure do

[@tarushvarmamookerjee8699]

Omg you made my day by replying fam thanks and great editing!

[@NiGHTSChao689]

So is using just straight distilled water still the best?

[@GearSeekers]

Yep

[@DoubleOhSilver]

The reason for the coolant sinking and leaking is most likely a bad seal. Either it wasn't tightened enough or the rubber seal broke or got misaligned. This would let air slowly in, allowing the water in the reservoir to rise until it got to the top, where no more air really got in, so leakage was very slow. I have no idea why the discoloration happened.

[@GearSeekers]

There was no leaking. The coolant expanded because it was bad. This issue has been acknowledged from Thermaltake

[@Frosty_fusion]

i changed my pc coolant, did the flush, clean, and ran with just water for 7 days then drained, i refilled with bright purple coolant and after 3 days it turned white. dont know why.

[@techforge-Nate]

Thanks for bringing us the not-so-glamorous stuff mate. From what I can recall the red pigment more likely to "go off" perhaps someone else can fill us in on the specifics. Certainly some sort of chemical or biological reaction going on if the loop has pressurised to the point it has leaked half a res worth of fluid. For all the good work they do, Thermaltake hasn't yet got the best reputation for stable fluids, hopefully it's something they can square away.

[@GearSeekers]

Spoiler alert. Nothing to do with Red 😉

[@squeekerradio9523]

I have only ever heard bad things about thermaltake 1000 fluid even from larger company's.

[@pareshrr]

Did you hear back from thermaltake

[@MrMkrb84]

why didn't you use an external and additional PSU for powering up the loop? this is much safer than using the system PSU.

[@GearSeekers]

What are you talking about lol 🤣

[@MrMkrb84]

@@GearSeekers you can laugh endlessly at the obvious. however, you start up a leaking system at the same time you apply power to all of the computer components. I repeat, isn't it safer to use a separate power supply to run just the pump?

[@jwaye89]

Great video fams, shame about the fluid

[@GearSeekers]

You get that on the big jobs

[@plermpelng1379]

I don't get why no one just uses G13 Car coolant fluid, it has a good anti corosive in it looks nice because it's pink and it doesn't gunk up or anything ever, just loses a bit of it's color after about a year.

[@GearSeekers]

G12 would be better lol

[@Nemesis1ism]

The reason I use distilled water is I wasn't brain dead to begin with.

[@PhotoshopGamer]

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[@GearSeekers]

What giveaway?

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[@NoneofyourBusiness-gy9yw]

looks like alot of work 😅 i think i will just stick to air.

[@massimilianospano7654]

Ok, now I know that's not my fault

[@CraigLillie]

Did anyone notice in the vid's thumbnail, the Pink glass is labeled Before, and the bright red glass is labeled After? Shouldn't that be the other way round? ;)

[@GearSeekers]

That's a lesson in clickbait. You clicked so it worked.

[@KlaireGearSeekers]

Welcome to the Matrix Neo

[@SarkarMotion]

You have been Red pilled

[@AlyssaNguyen]

4:10 Could be worse... It could've gone plaid. 😂

[@priohimawan7616]

There is why i didn't use liquid/water cooling for my pc.. So many problem, my friend have a AIO water cooling PC rig, its leak and damaging his PC..

[@thefirstturned3368]

Mayhems

[@TheVukMiler]

You left it in the dark for a month? It just lost its tan, mate! Put it on your porch for a week, soon the colour will return.

[@francismcraymond2646]

Cryofuel Clear FTW.

[@Chainspike101]

Morale of the story.. Don't leave your water cooled pc off for a month.

[@GearSeekers]

Moral of the story is don't use oil based coolants

[@shjkmxqyWqXh]

@@GearSeekers i want to get a lime-green kind of coolant can you recommend any coolants that i can use?

[@Cooper3312000]

I would never use Thermaltake parts. period.

[@badcommentbot8349]

Yeah ikr bought 100 fans for mining rigs and all 100 have failed in about 12 months.

[@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear]

So what was their responds to this video? Did they paid you to shut up now? I'm wondering why my white coolant has become transparent still.

[@GearSeekers]

Lol what. They literally did nothing

[@Tofilux]

Was here

[@pauls.5815]

What do you mean mixed metals? How do you not have mixed metals? Every CPU block on the market is Copper or Nickel plated copper, and all the radiators I see are copper with brass end caps. How could you avoid mixing metals when it is not possible? Are there aluminum radiators? Why would they even make aluminum radiators if there are no aluminum blocks? See the logic here?

[@roadi7]

leaks don't happen from just sitting!

[@mp00293]

You should have known how Thermaltake fluid was going to hold up.... If it is more complex than a case, I wouldn't trust anything from Thermaltake.

[@Ryansgt]

Did you leave it on? I find it hard to believe it would settle like this while flowing. If it sat, cloudy fluid has solids that will settle. That is kinda a no brainier.

[@bluethumbdiy4735]

Oxidation...not enough anti-corrosion additives. It's the same way "Oxyclean" works. Poor a little oxyclean in there and you'll get the same effect.

[@TikTokAaronLee]

Looks pink not white

[@plasmaman9592]

I don't understand why they would pay you to build a computer to test their coolant when they probably have hundreds of test loops and it would be cheaper to just use the loop with no pc. I can understand the advertising reasons to have you build a pc but not the testing part

[@KalebQi]

Probably caused by the rainbow RGB

[@tat2thadevil94]

Make yourself a Favor and never use anything from Thermalfake!

[@allpro7cf257]

Exactly! Just use EKWB coolants and you're all good. I had my Cryofuel white for a year and I don't see any problems.

[@BlackhatXII]

Thats why you dont leave coloured or pastel coolants for more than 4 months....

[@GearSeekers]

4 months? Did you even listen to what I said lol

[@BlackhatXII]

@@GearSeekers haha ok 1 month. My bad. I mean well 😂

[@KCS_]

And this is why I'm never going to do water cooling lol

[@GearSeekers]

This isn't a reason to not do it.

[@KCS_]

@@GearSeekers I mean to me water and electronics never mix, don't want to short out the expensive stuff in my system. I'm also lazy to maintain the coolant, might as well stick to the traditional air cooling

[@GearSeekers]

@@KCS_ coolant is non-conductive

[@camerongsx9122]

Hey KCS, dont be put off. Twice ive had major leaks in my computer. Once i had left it on while i was at work. One of the pipes had exploded off from pressure. The system was still running when i got home. Everything dyed in red. Only component that failed was the pump from being ran dry. Everything else was fine, red... but fine.

[@l__l2328]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3u4nZJ_pqmVhKM You shouldn't worry about few drops. Its very rare to even get a leak if you do it properly and don't rush

[@nickrobinson6434]

Seriously, opaques are not worth the trouble.

[@GearSeekers]

I've been building watercooled pcs for like 15 years and there still isn't an opaque fluid that doesn't do something weird eventually.

[@cantthinkofnameyeah7249]

@@GearSeekers have you experience green or blue mayhem fluid?! If so what was your experience? (Not red and yellowish colors)

[@frijin490]

One word for your problems, Thermaltake.

[@Metabrotropic]

TT's stuff is garbage, use Mayhem's Pastel.

[@bushhawk5460]

TL;DR: particles fall out and pain in the rear to clean

[@GearSeekers]

That's not what happened at all lol

[@Ty-ri7dy]

Stuff looks disgusting. Thanks for convincing me to stay air cooling.

[@icenesiswayons9962]

So far almost every channel that represents fluid cooling systems, have a huge maintenance routine especially for opaque fluids. WTD? Why would anyone that spends hundreds of $ on a rad gaming system want to then spend all their time maintaining a system they could and should be playing instead? I just don't get it unless it's like a separate Bobbie in itself constantly cleaning, changing or just plain dickering with a system. It's bigger than my motorcycle cooling system. I'm not harping, I just don't get it. I've seen people spend more on the cooling system than their mobo, CPU, mem and monitor then constantly rebuild and maintain it with more and more $ they could be using on their base CPU hardware, weird!

[@GearSeekers]

It's not weird. It's called being an enthusiast. Have you used the internet before?

[@badcommentbot8349]

It's pretty