Why I hate Voltaic

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[@GREED_EU]

Btw the "unknown high level aimer" is Shandyy. You can find their channel here: kzbin.info/door/ua_YJNEj6tKRutCOmPO_Ww

[@shandyy]

[@laesy]

The problem you say doesn't exist if people don't give a shit about others. I am only focused on my own results and not comparing myself to other people. Voltaic is an excellent tool to identify your weakness, good playlists and guides to improve whatever you want. You say there is a problem, but the problem is not voltaic, it is how some people use it.

[@spicyaim7164]

Dude, I think you're massively overblowing the influence of Voltaic ranks and diluting the community's understanding of their significance. Ranks signify benchmark highscores and nothing more. This is common knowledge. Scores in Kovaaks and Aimlabs are isolated and therefore have different methods used to optimize ranks. Edge tracking and other "score optimizing" techniques actually are often transferable skills ingame as well - only it's more difficult to apply them in ingame scenarios due to confounding factors. It's still optimal to edge track a strafing apex target so you can react to their strafe, for example. The community players who are known are also generally sorted between game specialists and in-game aimers. VT Hollow, for example, is plat in the benchmarks as far as I last heard and has insane ingame aim. No one in the community says there is a one to one translation - they are different skills and very few seek to conflate them. A nothing burger of a video as far as I've concerned.

[@sandersaarend]

As a relative newbie, I have to say, I have a very different perspective from what you share in this video. Before finding Voltaic, I had a very tough time finding a good comprehensive source with fundamentals of aim training explained in one place. Information I was able to find was scattered and hard to piece together, and even contradictory. Once I found Voltaic, I finally started understanding things - their guides were a super easy and comprehensive way to get started with aim training. Regarding score farming: I personally have not seen any Voltaic guide that advises this. I have seen the Voltaic benchmarks presented as a tool to figure out what level of routine you should be doing, not something to grind for scores. I have been following the Voltaic guides for about a month now, doing the fundamentals routine daily and benchmarking once a week (or less), and I have gone from Voltaic silver in my first benchmark to platinum complete in my latest benchmark. More importantly, my aim feels vastly more calm and stable in actual games now. In my experience, there isn't any other resource on the internet for beginners to aim training as comprehensive as Voltaic. I've checked out several different Discords and other sources, and outside of Voltaic, the most common advice I see is literally just "pick some scenarios you like and play them". This advice makes sense to people who already know different aim types, techniques, etc, but it's almost completely useless advice for a newbie. Voltaic is an invaluable resource to newbies like me.

[@GREED_EU]

I agree that Voltaic is amazing for beginners. However once you leave that beginner phase, it becomes extremely apparent how borderline useless Voltaic can actually be once you have a basic understanding of aim theory.

[@wodkdnwiwondsn]

check out 4banger kovaaks

[@coldstomperv1]

@@GREED_EU i disagree, ive gotten to nova vt overall and celestial dynamic and i think it has DEFINITELY helped my aim in game past the beginner stage. I think aim theory is pretty useless and the only way to really improve aim is just by playing.

[@GREED_EU]

Sure, I never said you couldn't improve doing the benchmarks the way they tell you too, by score farming/optimising. What I said was is that the people who do, do it that way, should not be seen on the same level as the people who did the correct way, using proper technique. A nova player who score farms, and a nova player who trains properly and utilises proper technique are so wildly far apart that this argument alone kinda destroys the purpose of the benchmarks to begin with@@coldstomperv1

[@eskezje]

@@coldstomperv1 once you reach a certain point, like around plat or diamond on VT benchmarks, the gains turns into diminishing returns. If you want to get better at a respective game, then you should played that game, vod review and supplement it with a small bit of aim training, like 5-10%. I believe it's a better approach to getting better at games, also aim wise in the respective game. Matty has also said he actually sucks at real games, if you want to get good at aim trainers, then aim trainers is the way for you. Aim is so much more than just the raw mechanic of moving your mouse.

[@Plasmaticaly]

Honestly one of the best videos that explain a position or stance on something in general. I also really agree that people that focus on score and not actual improvement might find it difficult to see any difference in their gameplay after a bit, as they learned not how to aim properly, but how to get a better score on a specific scenario. Really well-made video, and congrats on 5k!

[@salziFPS]

VT Astra here, I can say that even if you "score farm" and use these techniques you will still improve by a lot. Resetting a lot will not make you worse or compromise ur improvement, since you will either way have to aim even after resetting, edge tracking will improve ur aim ingame 100% bcs it requires smoothness and can also be used in specific games, for example peeking an angle and holding the crosshair on the edge. Having ur crosshair in front of the target in dynamic, will also still improve ur aim idk why it wont its just an easier way to start with it and slowly decrease the distance you are in front of the target. Idk I think aimtraining with the right scenarios no matter the way you do it will improve ur aim a lot

[@npaul-]

it would be funny if he deletes your comment

[@Iz4rK]

🔥

[@kal1589]

Idk why I feel stupid, but I can't understand your comment. Could you give scenarios with eavh thing you mentioned?

[@hdono8542]

Resetting made me actually improve my technique a lot which translated into ingame lolololol

[@GREED_EU]

The issue is that Althoigh yes, doing any kind of training is good, the way it is incentivised is simply wrong, and pushes you towards the route of prioritising score over proper technique. An example of this is snowi. He is absolutely amazing in kovaaks, but outside of it he really struggles to be anything other than a slightly above average kovaaks players

[@Square_One]

Benchmark scenarios are just practice drills with quantifiable progression, it's really not any deeper than that.

[@GREED_EU]

I disagree

[@Ryanin2D]

While score farming is definitely a thing, most high level aimers I know like Selene or Korewazesty don't farm scores, playing scenarios 100x. In fact, korewazesty has been on record saying he cant play a task for more than ten minutes. There are lots of aimers who genuinely enjoy aim training as its own game without trying to farm scores lik Bazhan, me, or roa. I know i improve very slowly compared to peoplr who grind one or two scrns for scores, but my skill transfer to Apex is very high. I just have my playlists of 2x per scenario and replay them over and over again. I think im gonna make a supplementary video to this because there's a bit more nuance to the conversation than what was alotted in this video, probably for time reasons. Like a player's intent and goals with benchmarks, how often they do benches, if they main aim trainers vs fps games, etc.

[@xliMaGiclx]

I started aim training five months ago. I used VT benchmarks to improve my aim, and then I got bored of it and created my own playlists to focus on my weaknesses. I never cared about scores or rank in the aim app; I just wanted to get better at FPS games. If my aim improved in the games I play, then the aim app worked. For anyone starting aim training, take it slow, play a bit each day, and focus on your weaknesses. You will be surprised how much you improve.

[@DiamondCatAimer]

How do you know when to stop focusing on a weakness and go to the next weakness you have?

[@xliMaGiclx]

@@DiamondCatAimer my performance in the game i want to get better at is the benchmark for me not the scores inside the aim trainer. For example my headshot percentage in valorant went up by 10% i was 20% now at 30+% once i felt the static and dynamic clicking did it job i dont focus on playing them as much so i reduced the amount of times i play them from like 10 times per scenario to 5-3 times. Now am focusing tracking and vertical tracking since am playing apex legends and overwatch. once i feel like i can beam people and get better overall ill start creating a new playlist for every aim type and just play them once or twice a day no more than an hour. I hope it helped.

[@vanfl9911]

​@@DiamondCatAimerrecommend recording your session then recording the session one week after and see if you improve

[@DiamondCatAimer]

@@vanfl9911Thank you

[@Jotarosson]

wdym bored

[@MattysEditsLIVE]

Great vid. Aimlabs user here. In the grand scheme of things, the aim training community is pretty new and I can say from my own personal experience that there's many things that can be criticised about the culture around aim training and aim groups/teams, and the egos within the community make it very difficult to have a conversation. You made a ton of great points. The primary issue at the heart of everything is the power of having leaderboards. The impact of having a leaderboard on every scenario cannot be understated. It's the source of the elitism prevalent in the community. It's the source of the mass confusion between training and competition. It's the source of the disparity between scores and in-game performance. Of course having a leaderboard is important and I don't think it should go away. It's a key tool to track your progress. We all put value on our ability only in reference to how we compare to everyone else, so leaderboards are genuinely the only way to gauge our strengths and weaknesses. Leaderboards are important. But being at the top of any leaderboard which is not explicitly stated as being a competition should not be a source of pride - which it unfortunately has become for a lot of people. Aimlabs have identified this problem and have tried to address it by having an explicit ranked mode, and there are many people like me who are able to compete with the best and set high scores in this ranked mode despite having no interest in aim groups and having never played a single benchmark. The best advice for anyone who is interested in aim training is to focus on your own progress and learn how to self-learn. Aim trainers are tools, don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Be vigilant in the tasks you play and choose tasks which accurately represent situations in games you play. If it's not explicitly stated as being a competition, don't worry about your placement. It means nothing.

[@GREED_EU]

It's the best advice I've heard in a while

[@yodaorcamaster_6358]

I second this advice, I initially started aim training just using the ranked tasks in aimlabs and only focused on getting better scores. That lead to me actually having worse aim in most videogames while having decent aimlabs scores. I was going between gold one and plat four for a while bc I wasn't training effectively and just chasing the score. Eventually, I stopped doing that and learned how to do the tasks right, now I'm ruby 3, not amazing, but a very nice improvement.

[@Jotarosson]

true aim trainers are simplay games

[@Jalepzy]

Acc good advice.

[@greippuli9166]

Took this to my heart 7 months ago and now I cannot believe how much I've progressed. I

[@WestProter]

Quality content. Mildly disagree with some examples, but mainly just specifics on optimal strategies (ie if you think edge tracking can't be used games, play ow for a bit). Other than that pretty good video, marketed as needed to get views (which causes a backlash understandably), pretty respectful to most parties involved, liked, subbed.

[@4bangerkovaaks]

This is bayzed. Like n subbed, I've been trying to say this for a while. Finally another creator who's articulate can explain. Idk how many times, people come to me after coming off VT playlists and say they're finally starting to see improvement. The part that gets me, is that *SOME* VT members who do see improvement and choose to gatekeep what they actually play. Which goes against the whole point of being an aim COMMUNITY that helps people. I'm not chasing anger, if it was another group I would've said the same thing. Good job. Well articulated & posted on discord

[@GREED_EU]

All love homie. Love your work btw

[@xkristiann]

I must say that this is a well done video. I would like to add a few of my thoughts on the topic of whether Voltaic benchmarks are "useless." I do believe that Voltaic benchmarks give the majority of players an incentive to keep aim training because I know many others including myself do get bored or even tired of aim training even if we aspire to improve our aim the best we could. This is made especially true when many games such as overwatch has in game workshop maps that do help practice our aim in an environment that is 1:1 to the game we want to improve in. With the benchmarks giving players a clear goal, it will help motivate to keep aim training and improve their mouse control. Although there are flaws with the benchmarks like you mentioned such as excessive resetting for optimal bot positions or playing 100cm to cheese a static scenario, this is inherently the player's decision and how they approach the benchmarks. If one decides to cheese the benchmark scenario for the highest score, that is 100% on them and not Voltaic as a whole. I am a strong advocate for players to avoid these practices just like you are and to practice in a way that will help them in game and not just farm the highest scores. This is an important discussion for new players and I am really glad this video was brought up in my recommended.

[@mezingue]

As a guy who started playing fps games only 8 month ago, i was actually clueless how to actually improve my aim (except from playing the game but it would have taken me years), voltaic helped me find efficient exercises and understanding the different parts of aiming, and after a month of grinding their fundamentals routines, i went from unranked to silver on their benchmark, and actually improved my aim in apex. My goal wasn't to improve my highscores, but to improve my average scores (and so my highscores improved too ofc as i got better averages scores ) so that maybe is why my aim improved, idk, but i'd say voltaic is good if you keep in mind you're grinding to improve your aim, and not to improve your highscores I have still a long way to go to improve my aim, but i'm still gonna use voltaic playlists and benchmark, because it gives a good way of practicing along your improvement in aiming, with the difficulty increasing after each new rank up

[@mezingue]

Also, i'm gonna add that i never reset runs, because it can help me realise what i'm doing wrong, or why i am inconsistent, i don't try to "find the best way between each dot" either because i wanna improve my speed and my precision in flicks and all that yk

[@mezingue]

To conclude, i'd say that the way you see voltaic is the unintended way to use it, i don't think people in voltaic intented this to be played the way you don't like, and so it's not voltaic fault, but ego players fault, because they are grinding to prove they are better and not to actually get better

[@GREED_EU]

This would make sense if the VT members and didn’t do do it, or recommend it. But they do

[@mezingue]

​@@GREED_EUyeah maybe you're right, still i think that it can be usefull for newbies like me, but i like to varie my sources about aiming, you actually helped me get rid of my flowy aim (ty about that i improved almost instantely on static clicking after your video, it is one of my weeakness and i was having a hard time getting consistent improvement on it) I'm gonna stay neutral on this position because you helped me as much as a voltaic member i have in mind, so i can't choose my side on this Keep up the good work tho, you're helping bad aimers like me improve, you definitely got my respect for that 😄

[@GREED_EU]

I don't see this as a situation with sides. I like Voltaic as an entity. I critisised an aspect of their flawed system and it led to not only community members but also players part of the main team to berate me, call me a pedo, and had their fanbase attack me. I was completely respectful but of course in classic VT fashion they went straight to insults due to their fragile egos. This not a case of who is right or wrong, because it doesn't matter. The issue has now become the immaturity and incompetence of the VT team, as well as their inability to address their members being parasites. This is one of the many reasons VT is so aids.

[@beetheslayer]

All that said, Voltaic is definitely the way to go, when you start working on your aim. You will easily find the aspects that are bad and need more improvement than others. Not defending Voltaic, cause most of things you said are true, but nobody reads the guides from them. They say themselves to not play benchmarks as your routine or to get better scores without factual improvement, they advice to use them when you will feel like you made some progress, that's why they have routines for ranks you try to achieve, which most of the times has different tasks than benchmarks, same for specific aspect training

[@bixcs2]

I think a good amount of this could be improved upon if Voltaic spent some time focusing on elaborating on how each scenario SHOULD be played. As well as more specific issues that people can have with specific categories of aim. For example I didn't realize that I was having issues in static with tension control until spending time demo reviewing and realizing that my landings are always shaky if I flick to fast. A list of these little issues that people run into or incorporating guides on how to demo review with some suggested things to look out for would be really helpful for beginners like me. I have been playing the voltaic benchmarks for about a month now and have gotten to Diamond but I regularly question whether or not I am improving my mouse control or if I'm just improving my ability to play the benchmark scenarios. I also think that the bardpill gets forgotten as soon as people stop playing static. Like your flicks in dynamic need to be fast. I myself struggle with "the smoothening" of my aim when doing evasiveTS or dynamic rather than, quick flick, microadjustment, track/click. EDIT: Thinking about this more, things like what 4BK does with the 4BK Method is really cool because when you are following a mental checklist for a category, it forces you to learn technique as opposed to just grinding scores. I do think that completely ignoring scores is a mistake as at least for me, it helps create focus/frustration. I set the goal for myself to improve my average on a given scenario not my PB and it helps me prevent scoremaxxing while still utilizing the measurability of the scores to map progress in my aim. I also don't allow resets of any kind.

[@TheDarkEmpty]

What they "SHOULD" do and what they will do are two different things unfortunately, voltaic seems like it's quickly becoming a business and what's best for their pocket vs what's good for player improvement

[@bixcs2]

@@TheDarkEmpty for sure. As always capitalism ruins everything

[@16spade]

Don't they already do that though? in their resources they tell you how each scenario should be played

[@comkioxd]

@@16spadethey tell you what technique you should prioritize not what to avoid doing which this video was about

[@NoDebuffs]

conragats on 5k, been here since 900

[@GREED_EU]

Largest W in the crazy lakes of Wisconsin's mega water theme park attraction hotspot on the edge of aloe vera street.

[@bernardq]

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[@Lugafps]

Great video! I agree almost entirely with what's being said! The only thing i have a different perspective on is that i can see people playing Kovaak's as a game in itself just trying to score farm for the fun of it which i think is fine, And the benchmarks VT provides is a good and fun introduction to aim training in general, Atleast it was for me. Now what i do agree with is that for real improvements to mouse control i have found just trying to push myself aiming like i do ingame in different scenarios for my own personal scores without comparing to other people is the real key, And personally on top of that i push my sens higher and higher trying to reach decent scores on higher sens and that took improvement to a whole other level for me. I believe in making stuff harder for yourself so it makes your brain constantly work trying to figure out how to make that task easier for you, Hence faster improvement. Right now using 8-16cm/360 depending on game and fov but still aim better than ever before even tho my Kovaak's scores are not the same as they once were! I have plans to eventually lower my sens to something like 15-26cm/360 in the future and i already know i will be able to use such a high sens extremely consistent all because i have pushed my mouse control to this point allowing me to be fast and accurate instead of having a low sens only being accurate but slow instead because in my opinion speed is very important in fps games, Ofcourse it might be a bad approach for others but it certainly works for me. Kind of a rant but just another take on improvement from a random dude trying to master aiming lol.

[@GREED_EU]

Yeah and I fully understand this perspective and don't have an issue with it. Anyone is free to do what they want.

[@Ryanin2D]

Aimbeast > Voltaic

[@Silver50745]

Play arena ppl

[@pyrocon5454]

I agree with all the criticism, expect the benchmarks themselves. They are a tool, misusing it is on the side of the user, so I think failure to use it properly is less on the VT team. Personally, I went from VT bronze to diamond after starting to play on PC, really only benchmarking on one day while the rest of the week was dedicated to improving. If people want to waste time by grinding scores, that's their problem.

[@Fvlkan]

solid video, points were maid clearly and i was educated on something i knew nothing about prior to watching

[@harrissmith3868]

Hey man agree with most of this but a few things. One: I think most high level "aimers", the cringe name they give themselves do not give a shit about real fps games and only focus on kovaak grinding so of course they will fall short in their actual game. I dont think most of them care, though. Most aimers would probably take a rank decrease in a real fps game if they could have a guaranteed rank increase in vaaks. Two: You mentioned score boosting and score cheesing. I have a hard disagree here. No voltaic grandmaster is gonna suddenly be gold if they stop cheesing/score farming/optimizing. They might have a little worse aim but still similar aim. All that stuff you mentioned only probably makes a 10% difference in terms of the score (1 or 2 vt ranks max). Like a gold player is not gonna become a master player from just resetting till they get good spawns, no offense but you thinking that this stuff makes a large difference leads me to believe you are probably a newer player, because variances between good and bad runs may be a 30% leaderboard difference for a novice/beginner player. Players consistently in the top 99% on a vaaks leaderboards are not gonna forget to reset cause they got a bad spawn and then be in the 70% on the leaderboard for that run; maybe 95% (worst case) Three: i hate voltaic myself since the aim community is cringe, but in general the aim help they give to players with bad aim (below Diamond) is invaluable. Voltaic resources/shit become less and less useful as people progress in their aim journey. Like if you really wanna be good at your fps of choice no point in grinding aim past master. Most people with high level kovaaks aim know this already, but dont care and just want to grind scores to get that rush with a new high score. But the average player playing the benchmarks is below diamond, so at those ranks any aim training even if its done shitty might still be slightly beneficial.

[@harrissmith3868]

A real life example on my point 2. I was grinding FuglaaXYZ Voltaic Easy for an hour the other day, almost no resets 45+ runs. My worst run was 99.74% and my best run was 99.95% on the leaderboard. It's ridiculous to think that not "optimizing" and all that other shit you mentioned would cause me to be in anything less then the 99% percentile on this leaderboard. But if I was a beginner player my optimizations/resetting could cause me to go up from 50% to 80% on the leaderboard so I understand where you are coming from. But at the higher levels these differences are more negligible in the big picture.

[@GREED_EU]

Ok do you think snowi would still manage top 10 scores if he played the scenarios properly?

[@meat.]

should change title to something less inflammatory like “why I disagree with voltaic” but I suppose it may be intentional to get more clicks. Either way nice video mate

[@GREED_EU]

Thanks. Originally the plan was to come off nicer, and I considered changing it. However Voltaic is full of some pretty awful people, like Clover who constantly created pedo allegation and rumours about anyone he dislikes or just randomly. Most of VT is like this but Clover seems to be the worst offender so far.

[@sonnyyu386]

I do think putting your crosshair ahead is a skill in dynamic senarios were people like elige practice with Matty. they call it "click timing"

[@DevinDTV]

Low wit take. No one said if you get high bench scores you'll be a god aimer in whatever game. Benchmarks do a great job of what they were designed to do: create a reward/incentive structure to grind an aim trainer. If you thought it'd do something else that's on you not VT. And no, cheesing scens won't stop you from improving.

[@GREED_EU]

Tell me an aimer that farms and cheeses scores that has a similar raw aim output in game as they do in kovaaks.

[@Cronx.]

@@GREED_EU Look at killuminatis ingame aim he grinds kovaaks and sometimes uses lower sensitivities than his default and "optimal techniques" to get some higher scores (which may be considered cheesing scores by some)

[@GREED_EU]

Changing sens is not cheating scores. Changing sens is a great tool for improving your aim overall.

[@Cronx.]

@@GREED_EU Sure but he still does use techniques like resetting for better starts edge tracking ect. Also, playing a lower sens on a smoothness task to maximize score can be considered cheese by some players which is why I said "some" consider it cheesing if u have to play a lower sens to hit a score, not that kill can't do it on his normal sens just makes it slightly easier on a lower sens like 50+cm

[@GREED_EU]

Yes changing sens specifically for hitting higher scores is cheese, but it isn't the changing sens part that is bad, it is the reason why which is problematic. Another issue is that the tasks he does edge track on are also the ones that in similar in game scenarios on, he struggles with. Resetting when you have awful spawns is again not what I'm complaining about, it is perfectly reasonable to reset if the spawns are the worst they could be. The problem comes from the fact that if the spawns are not perfect, they will reset, even if they spawns where good. And then they will reset, kill a few bots, and then reset if they don't get good spawns again. That is the issue. Their "skill" is majorly inflated.

[@alexanderlund-jackson6864]

crazy to say that GM players that use score farming suddenly have bad aim lmao

[@GREED_EU]

Many of them do

[@WheresDXninjaDX10]

This video is so well made

[@oaktre3]

"aim trainer" players are different from people who specifically play one or multiple real fps games for example, mattyOW is primarily an aim trainer player, he spends more time trying to improve his aim on aim trainers than playing to specifically get good aim for one fps game these players still have very good aim just in a different way from what you think good aim is (ie, being able to consistently perform in real time multiplayer fps games) i think that you are vastly discrediting the amount of skill and effort exhibited in the average high score kovaaks run. things like edge tracking or the bardozz method, while not directly implementable in games, exhibit a really high level of mouse control. saying that these players "aren't skilled" is really downplaying the level of training and effort someone needs to get to that level. i am saying this as a masters rank in voltaic and as a top 100 peak hitscan player in overwatch, voltaic benchmarks and VDIMs have made my aim much better over time

[@GREED_EU]

I agree completely. However like I stated. A lot of these players who can really only aim in their respective win trainer are admired for having great raw aim, which isn’t true. It sets a bad precedent for newer aimers because aiming well in an aim trainer and well in game are wildly different and require different skills. That’s why I say if you train properly then you can have a 1:1 translation of skill

[@okaycoop5856]

Your definition of score farming is comparable to game sens and resetting to achieve a better score is simply maximizing time efficiency. Getting a new high score off good rng is when opportunity meets skill. You make good videos but I have to disagree with this take.

[@GREED_EU]

Sure, but then that means that score has nothing to do with skill, which also then makes the benchmarks pointless. If I just keep resetting until I get a god run, I am not actually to that calibre, but my benchmark rank says I am, which now means I'm qualified to give advice (which many do, and end up scamming people)

[@okaycoop5856]

@@GREED_EU Interesting. Wait so game sens has nothing to do with skill in your opinion? “Skill” in this case referring to overall mouse control. Also I can make the comparison of resetting until you get good rng to re-queuing a ranked game after you get bad teammates or bad loot.

[@GREED_EU]

I'm referring entirely to aim trainers. Skill encompasses everything you as an individual have control over. In aim trainers, the only control you have is your aim, and how many time you wanna reset the run to get a good score

[@aimlock11-s1e]

voltaic benchmark=trash

[@LuhkisLair]

If you don’t mind me asking, how do you feel about MattyOW’s approach? I know he’s a VT member, he has an interesting take on different settings per style of scenario. You make a lot of sense with what you make your videos on and I like multiple outlooks so I figured I’d ask. Great content btw!

[@GREED_EU]

As a person and aim trainer main, Matty is great. However if you watch his kovaaks compared to his OW, there really is not a huge translation. His raw aim output in game is really not as amazing as his kovaaks is, and that’s entirely because he neglects proper training for the pursuit of score

[@Sundilio]

⁠@@GREED_EUany aim trainer main with great translation into other games?

[@neeltrip2443]

Low gravity56 has great translation

[@Carlos-do2vh]

sorry i cant watch the video, started crying after remebering that valve was able to launch cs2 in its state cuz csgo was just so much more smoother, reason i didnt change to valorant but know i simply cant, gameplay is shit, hits arent corresponding to clicks and movement is a piece of crab. The worst part of it is that csgo is only offline mode till january... fck man....

[@MoonSkeeter]

I agree with some things 100%, like the point you made on people just Grinding the VT rank then saying "I'm this rank so it doesn't matter". On the other hand with "Reset Andy's" I don't agree with this point. Resetting is a good way to discipline yourself and actually improve a lot more, resetting to get the best spawn position is only going to help for those first few targets and those players you see doing this are the ones who already have good fundamentals and like to score farm a little more. Good video overall though! I guess it depends a lot on the player, people progress in different ways.

[@mk-19memelauncher65]

This mostly applies to people in the top .05% GMs and above who are trying to get top leaderboard scores, voltaic is an ok playlist for training but I would still use other harder scenarios to grind like the ones in your own GREED playlists

[@lefonwastaken3393]

I agree with a lot of things you’ve said. I’ve personally seen a few voltaic members, aimers who had top high scores and just to name a few, not calling them out or anything, but just to highlight that top scores don’t mean anything, Christmasiscancelled and Bonfiggy. When I started aim training, I came across these two and noticed they were really good at Kovaaks. Then I saw Christmas’ apex videos and noticed that his aim in game was actually.. bad. And Bonfiggy, he had multiple top scores in clicking scenarios and his aim in Fortnite was just mediocre. Felt like chapter 1 type aim that average players had back then. Please make more videos highlighting the importance of training with a purpose and how to do that. Effective training is more important than high scores

[@Terrarus_]

This is the biggest click bait title, and I LOVE IT. The content form is so educational while adressing real problems I found aimtraining too, which I had to get out of myself first. This is the most genuine advice you will find on score farming and score sniping, I do think tho that resetting can be super beneficial as a learning process mid run to imply ur mistakes towards ur unconsciousness. The advice given applies to more than just benchmarks. I love how I can just go threw even ur older vids and still find bangers. This deserves so much more attention man, I love you and keep it up

[@GREED_EU]

[@jR0xas]

Some good points but realistically there's only so much cheesing you can do. If your mouse control is bad you aren't reaching any high scores regardless of any cheese methods you're using. Aim trainers just improve mouse control nothing more and nothing less and scores are a decent way to track progress although average scores mean more than high scores because it removes a lot of the rng aspect.

[@MrDawgy12]

Is there a playlist you recommend for beginners or intermediates? Your greed-tracky/switchy/clicky are a little too hard for me.

[@GREED_EU]

I think generally speaking any of the early 4banger ones are all pretty well balanced.

[@TJ-rf3iu]

You just seem upset that certain people are getting recognition that YOU deem don’t “deserve” it. Myself and I’m sure hundreds of other people have improved their overall mouse control with voltaic. The pettiness is very clearly translated in this video despite you trying to hide it.

[@GREED_EU]

That is not even remotely close to the point of the video

[@frankc2119]

Mucho interesante. I can say VT helped me improve, but I had zero exp with MnK. Started at iron and currently gold. I don't score farm b/c I play aim lab (resetting is tedious in that trainer), but I have cheesed some scenarios I suppose by playing on very high or low sens (outside my in game range). Gonna stop doing that. BTW, can you make a video showing a handcam? I want to see your high sens technique. I grinded 8 - 16cm for 100+ hours but hit a hard wall I couldn't get past. Ideally I would like to go back to that sens range.

[@GREED_EU]

I could try it. I’d just have to figure out the logistics of where I’d put the camera

[@alangeorge4053]

Is movement reading farming just curious?

[@GREED_EU]

No. Reading movement is a needed skill

[@aimlock11-s1e]

What do you think of the 4bk routine? Your kovaaks routine is too difficult I practiced for a month, but it's hard to get used to it

[@GREED_EU]

They have a lot of good playlists

[@aimlock11-s1e]

@@GREED_EU I ended up using your aiming routine. but I have one question. Your aiming routine is a 2day rotation, but is it not necessary to use that method?

[@GREED_EU]

@@aimlock11-s1e Once a day is fine

[@aimlock11-s1e]

@@GREED_EU Thank you always for your kind reply You are the best aiming coach of my life

[@GarBageGhosteeE]

Ngl, agree with some of the points you mentioned but i think the way this video is titled and the thumbnail are quite misleading in contrast to the points mentioned in the video, i recognize all 3 playets whos clips you showcased and im sure by now everyone knows them, first of all the first clips that you showcased are from a player who has exceptional aim as of now and those clips were very old when that particular player specialized exclusively in target switching and i would appreciate it much more if you showcased their current clips, secondly the player who you showcased has wrist tremors if you arent aware of that and even that player has a lot of awesome clips like you showed of the 3rd player, adding on the 2nd player that you showcased is moreso because of the educational apex content produced by them and not necessarily their aim, and finally the 3rd player that you showcased is a friend of mine who ive known for quite some time now and you can ask him yourself too that he does all the actions mentioned in this video, so yes id say the clips are extremely cherrypicked but overall the points mentioned in this video are definitely something to think about, id request you to act mature and mention this and not market this video in such a hateful way

[@GarBageGhosteeE]

To add the 3rd player showcased also grinded the vt benchmarks as of recent and primarily played games themselves more just like the first and second players you showcased

[@GREED_EU]

I only showcased 2 players? Also the title and thumbnail are this way because of how unbelievably hateful and parasitic Voltaic are

[@GarBageGhosteeE]

​@@GREED_EUsorry my bad, i should have mentioned 1st, 2nd and 3rd clips and not 'players', but my only request is to not showcase the player in the first and second clips like this solely because of their wrist tremors, and also to add further of you have a look at players like madbadman and sestroyed you can see that even after score optimization, reset etc. You can have a look at the kind of aim they have, and secondly i understand your personal hate towards voltaic but the points mentioned in this vid are not because of what you hate voltaic for, also if you read the instructions for the benchmarks that vt themselves have written out, you will come to know they dont promote the stuff mentioned in this video but i do appreciate you shedding light on these points that new players confuse, no bad blood!

You positioning yourself as an aim coach, then you must know, performance in a specific game environment often differ from raw aim performance in kovaak's. Game environment is a lot more complicated, consists more factors you need to understand / adjust to. Good raw aim skills is 10-20% max of overall in-game performance. You are complaining basically about nothing, I know good and bad players in aim community. Aim training doesn't makes you absolute killing mashine. People that focusing on it too much ignoring other aspects is always being a bad example.

[@GREED_EU]

At no point did my video come from a direction that would entirely disagree with your comment. I’m referring to aim, not movement, positioning, technique or anything else. Purely aim, which a lot of the score farmed bots, struggle to showcase

@GREED_EU Ok, seems like I need to explain more concrete. Mentioning game environment I also meant recoin patterns, your own and enemy movement, abilities, positioning, which is strongly affect your aim performance in actual game if you have poor experience in particular environment. For example, the guy who decent in apex dip into valorant. He takes all experience he gained in apex, but valorant is a different game, so he needs to learn how new environment works to perform at decent level. Same with aim training and games, if guy has poor experience in games but major in aim training it will now work until he adapts. To show decent aim performance you need to know now the game works, otherwise it's pure reflexes.

[@GREED_EU]

The VT member I showed quite literally is a full time apex player/aim coach. The other guy is a just a ranked player. How is the random ranked player dominating in terms of raw aim output, but has lower kovaaks scores. I am not refering to movement, or any other mechanic, or game sense based variable. I am entirely talking about raw aim output because that's what Kovaaks trains. If you have great aim, you will perform regardless of the game you play in 90% of cases. Sure there are players who struggle when migrating, but neither of the players i mentioned migrated too or from apex, they have both been playing for years, and the VT member I showed is quite literally an aim coach with amazing scores. But plays like this in game at their average. whereas the random ranked player is barely masters complete, and absolutely smokes the VT player. @M1dnightWerewolf

[@zuseer516]

i get impressed by in game performance not high scores and thats how i think most ppl should be. score farming is so stupid imo

[@trin3146]

the clip at 2:10 where you wiped 3/5 remaining enemy players and died leaving your teammates in a 2v1 post-plant and then cutting to round lost was incredibly funny

[@Jenko1_]

I mean I get your points but you could just not care about scores and use the improvement playlists

[@wm8401]

You know you're a true head when you're happy to watch a guy's vid on a game you've never heard of and will never play. I enjoyed the scripted, articulate and concise presentation. Banger editing as well. I'm sure the channel will pop. Just please don't forget us OG's. An unhinged rant about OW2 balance now and then is all we ask. A hard roast session on a godless, vile, single digit IQ round of patch notes for the lads likesay...just a wee taste now n then, eh?

[@GREED_EU]

Oh the rants are coming brother. The new season has my piss boiling.

[@spoongbog]

i think if u changed the title to cant stand voltaic yt algo wld recommend to more ppl

[@FPS.bhargav]

they need to touch some grass

[@iplayforfun300kattack]

I think benchmarks should have a sens cap, a fov cap and be based on your 10 round average with no resets. Incredibly hard to police but that would be a better presentation of someone’s skill. A high score is just that, a high score.

[@OldSchoolL4D-zb2kt]

You can do that manually yourself. Check your net graph. You can see last 20 scores. Get average from that and use that instead of high score. No resets playing through the end etc.

[@iplayforfun300kattack]

@@OldSchoolL4D-zb2kt yeah depends on if you’re benchmarking yourself or against others. Any system has it’s intricacies you can game

[@dosakun]

Look I am dumb but I somewhat agree with your views but I think you have half baked knowledge on some of the things. 1. I agree that official benchmark has lost meaning for those who are looking for skill improvement but it is more of a diff game / sport for us aim trainers main who don't enjoy other games / can't even play it. The official VT Benchmarks is not for ppl looking for in-gmae improvement but their Valorant benchmarks is better . Also resetting is bad if you don't know why you are resetting. Resetting to kill your bad tech on the spot is diff that resetting just cus you are whiffing but novice/ even intermediate player don't understand why top players do it. 2. For score farming you have to understand that there are players who think the benchmark as a game. So score farming is our route to get better scores and play to get advantage. You can play csgo/ valorant with only aks/vandal but ppl play run and gun weapons and do other stuff to get advantage it's the same core concept. 3. You were right in all other things but you were completely wrong in Score Optimzation part Leaving your crosshair in front of bots for dynamic scenarios will give you intiall boost but later down the line you will not get higher scores. You are not supposed to snap in dynamic scenarios. the flicks in those are supposed to be way smoother than what you do in static scenarios. Edge tracking is even harder to do if you actually try it cus you are technically making the bot even smaller than it actually is which in turn you need to be way smoother than you are actually recquired. Increasing FOV does increase the visibilty of the bots but you have to understand that when you increase fov the bots get smaller and smaller which in turn you have to be more accurrate with your flicks and smoother transition of bot while killing it. Ps I agree with some of your points but some where bad but hey in the end good video and it was nice that you were pointing out your opinions and criticisms.

[@GREED_EU]

I understand all of this and why people do it, and I even mention that it’s totally fine when fully self contained. It becomes aids when people farm. Get high VT scores, and then give dogshit advice afterwards.

[@partoftheworlD]

I think all problems mentioned in this video relate in general to aim trainer cult, and grinding scenarios, and here people fall into 2 categories, those who are frustrated in games and their aim trainer is their main game and their cool aim ends on their favorite aim trainer and those who optimize their training after demo review of their main game to spend their time as efficiently as possible with maximum efficiency in their game. And when people in the first category start advising people in the second category on how to train, there's a problem of training effectiveness. For beginners voltaic benchmark is quite excellent to start. But unfortunately I've met a lot of people who start doing aim trainers and don't think about how to optimize their own training for their weaknesses, they just grind playlists that they were advised without wondering how effective they are. So they spend 2-5 hours in aim trainers every day and in the end their aim remains bad in their main games.

[@akshayy_xd]

Whats the tldr of this video? If its just 'people score farm instead of trying to get better at the actual game' thats a stupid premise because everyone knows this already?

[@GREED_EU]

Not the hundreds of people that come to for coaching AFTER getting coaching from "VoLtAiC aStRa AiMeR" A lot of people fall for score = good. The point of this video was to discuss that topic and why it's aids

[@starrider6590]

I don't know what voltaic is, I won't even watch the full video, I don't even know why I got this recommended to me. All I can say is 0:24 W manet enjoyer I FUCKING LOVE LUI BY MANEEEEEET.

[@chatival]

Hey Greed! I feel like lately I have not been improving while aim training. Could you make a video on how to self-vod-review and what to look out for to spot mistakes?

[@GREED_EU]

I go over some of that In my video refering to how I would coach you to get perfect aim from a few months ago. It focuses on being able to identify your own issues

[@chatival]

@@GREED_EU Thanks I will check it out!

[@jizu-]

wondering about your story. did you really timescale celestial runs and get banned from vt for it? was that before or after this video? what motivated you to do that? genuinely curious

[@GREED_EU]

I have never time scaled, and I am also not banned from VT. I'm in there discord and people message me for coaching all the time from there. You can literally see me in there. Also, my celestial runs never had a vod because I never recorded them. I don't care about the rank and I did it purely because I thought it was funny to flex a VT rank in my bio, the exact same reason the rest of that shit is in my discord bio, it's funny, because it's the nerdiest no life thing imaginable. Also, they have been accusing me of cheating for a long time, basically before VT and Kovaaks/aimlabs became a thing, back in the earlier CSGO days.

[@jizu-]

@@GREED_EU thanks for responding man, i had seen some people say you cheated in the discord and another person said you were banned because of it. I hadn't seen any proof of anything and was just curious. unrelated question do you still play kvks/al? and if so do you have any plans of posting vods? i like watching other people play and i know other people do too, just asking to ask since you ended up replying which i didn't really expect

[@aaerondight5163]

i didn't realize that resetting scenarios for better targets are a thing. Sometimes when I pop off on a scenario(tracking scenes predominantly) I feel like I just got luck cause the target ai sucked. Makes me think if i got good or just got lucky.

[@mayo0006]

question, can you elaborate on how score farming is inefficient for improving aim?

[@RandomAusFan]

He has a aim science vid that addresses it

[@GREED_EU]

It's because you are pushing for an easier setup. Easier setups = less challenge = slower improvement = less efficient.

[@shh4887]

@@GREED_EU how often should someone do the benchmarks?

[@GREED_EU]

I would avoid doing them at all.@@shh4887

[@LoligesLP]

U dont hate Voltaic, u hate some players who play the Voltaic benchmark. Or would u also say, the szenarios are trash?

[@GREED_EU]

The scenarios are okay. The players are who I really dislike

[@Whoooodie]

The benchmarks are accurate for me, i'm Nova in Voltaic and Nova in Counter Strike

[@GREED_EU]

Gottem

[@alangeorge4053]

@GREED_EU so you are saying snowi cant do well in competitive environment because he cant flick well fast?

[@GREED_EU]

Snowi DOESN'T do well in competitive environments because his aim is fundamentally bad at it's core level. He has absurd levels of accuracy against insanely predictable, slow moving, non shooting enemies when he is stationary, and has very slow, only slightly above average aim everywhere else for the most part.

[@wodkdnwiwondsn]

do you recommend splitting up their fundamentals playlists like for example silver playlist playing tracking scenarios only for a week or two until i notice decent progress and it becomes too easy then dynamic etc. because i dont have like 90 minutes every day to invest in clicking balls but rather only around 30 min

[@GREED_EU]

If you only have 30 minutes, then you should build your own playlist that is extremely challenging, borering on frustrating, so you have to apply maximum focus and concentraion just to have a chance. That way you are juicing the most out of your time. the VT fundamentals are extremely basic and although great for beginners, quickly fall apart once you get some experience.

[@bo1]

so u dont hate voltaic u hate certain types of people who play voltaic

[@GREED_EU]

Exactly. I say in the video that I love the concept of Voltaic. The idea. I dislike their practices and their members.

[@shandyy]

i am the unknown high level aimer 😎

[@GREED_EU]

Yes you are. I can credit you if you’d like. I just didn’t wanna throw you under the bus and give you tonnes of unwanted attention. Lemme know if you want the credit bro :)

[@shandyy]

@@GREED_EU aye i understand that, ye i would appreciate da credit tyty

[@GREED_EU]

npppppp@@shandyy

[@grqfes]

how are you global queuing with a MG bro did i miss something? how much bigger can the rank disparity get

[@grqfes]

ok but after fully watching it is kinda weird to title it "Why i hate voltaic" and then go and say you dont hate anyone there just simply disagree with some common practices. ultimately as as a silver complete i dont have much ground to stand on but it all seems like a bunch of solvable issues that can be ironed out. well can is a pretty important word in that sentence yes, but "i hate vt" makes it seem like theyre hanging kids on nooses or something

[@fisher7817]

Just read the dock xD it cant be that hard

[@GuyLancelot]

I don't agree with everything, but I do mainly agree. The biggest issue I take with Voltaic and the Aim Training Community in general, is how they talk about aim. They call themselves 'aimers' and things like, 'world's best static aimer.' The implication being that whereever and whenever a game requires aiming, they will be one of the best in the world at that aiming part. AIM IS A MEANS, NOT AN END! After thinking about it too much, I've come to think that the word 'aim,' is misapplied by people in the Aim Training Community. "I just want aim, that's why I aim train" everyone wants 'aim' like its something valuable, but you're always aiming, so wtf do people mean? You have 'good aim' when you hit your target(s) faster or more accurately than someone else. AIM IS A MEANS, NOT AN END!!! Remove targets and 'aim' is pointless. Hitting/killing fast, before they kill you, is 'good aim.' That definition holds across all games like Quake, Overwatch and Apex Legends but works with CSGO and Valorant too where all the 'mouse control' in the world will be meaningless if you run and shoot at the same time.

[@vAXED_Saturn]

What are ur opinions on Demon1

[@GREED_EU]

I don't know much about him as a person but he is mechanically very solid.

[@rausku7195]

this video is great. I have been score grinding shit ton and this opened my eyes.

[@iamconquest]

How do you train properly then? VT is very "pretty" to novice players, I think most majority of people look at it and think yeah if you just keep grinding and rank up, you'll achieve good aim. I am very curious

[@GREED_EU]

Build a few playlists, 1 for each category of aim. Clicking, switching and tracking. Make sure they are challenging, enough to force you to concentrate to do well, but not enough to frustrate you. Play it for a week, and then look back at your strengths and weaknesses. The next time you train, apply all of your focus to improving upon your weaknesses. Go until the playlists you built are starting to get easy/mundane. Rinse and repeat.

[@iamconquest]

What would you say is past beginner level? I have grinded from silver to plat in the few weeks, and I have heard if you can achieve diamond complete, you have top %1 aim. Is this statement real?@@GREED_EU

[@williammurphree6594]

@@GREED_EUWould you recommend dividing up clicking and tracking in half like in the LG56 Daily improvement playlists, or keeping things like static and dynamic clicking in the same playlist? I’m newer and have been really liking LG56’s playlists, but it feels like some of the scenarios are redundant and there’s a few actually important ones in there that could be combined with other days to create a more efficient playlist. It makes sense to keep them together since dynamic is the application of static technique while reading target movement, so sometimes I’ll play static and then dynamic right after. Not sure, but just curious as to what you would personally do in that kind of situation?

[@GREED_EU]

I personally like to run static and dynamic in the same playlist but if separating them is totally fine as well.@@williammurphree6594

[@GREED_EU]

If we're talking about Kovaaks performance, then yes I average in the top 1%. if we're talking about actual aim though, I'd say a little lower than that considering I don't train as much as I used too and spend more time coaching now. I don't think it would be hard to get back to where I was however I'm certainly worse than I used to be

[@BALI409]

The practices you explain depend on the person playing, not voltaic.

[@GREED_EU]

The cheating problem in CS2 depend on the person playing, not Valve.

[@IsaaaValorant]

bro has become a meme atp

[@dashdoom8452]

Based

[@neonoir__]

I enjoyed this more scripted type of video

[@GREED_EU]

I plan on doing more of them :>

[@Ruicyte]

I stopped playing all VT benchmarks after they transitioned from sparky (was gm complete 3 years ago when there were less than 20), but the reason isn't really what you specify. I only play vaaks to improve my aim in OW, and nearly all the scenes in current VT benchmarks are useless for that purpose. I believe the current benchmarks are designed with good rng and score farming in mind already, and the scenes themselves are designed to minimise the effect of cheesing. But nearly every aim trainer main sucks in-game in OW and their aim doesn't even translate, and I spent 2 years fixing this issue despite being one of the best kovaak players in the past. Most good aimers in OW aren't actually higher than gm vt, in fact some of them are probably only hitting plat on static. But they will have one speciality scen amongst reactive tracking or precision tracking at a nova or higher level. Most VT benchmarks are a distraction and I regret wasting so many hours playing static or speed dynamic clicking scens like pasu and b180, when precision and dodge scenes are way more relevant. Also I've come around to the idea that tracking is the only relevant type of aim to train in vaaks for OW. static and TS are beyond useless. precision clicking is better trained in game. I came to this conclusion watching the best soldier and baptiste player I know, who is a well kept secret (he gets hackusations from contenders and even OWL players). Once my GM1 accounts in OW started getting banned from cheating reports I knew I was on the right path. To summarise, static is useless beyond plat benchmarks, dynamic clicking is useless once speed and target pathing become required (think every VT dynamic scen is an offender), smoothness is always useful but reactivity should be prioritized, and dodge scenarios are way more useful. I'd say voltaic benchmarks is only something to do up to reactive tracking hits GM, smooth tracking hits masters, static hits plat, play small and fast versions of dynamic ignore VT scens in that category, if you want to improve in OW.

[@LoligesLP]

I gotta know who the best soldier and baptiste player is?????

[@Ruicyte]

@@LoligesLP He has no social media profiles, 0 clips on KZbin. IYKYK.

[@hekotik2760]

what do you think clicks for people who have good aim in a game like ow and they are like t500 with no aim training?

[@GREED_EU]

Persistence

[@bernardq]

who?

[@nighthoundgaming339]

i mean ur right score farming is a problem but if your taking ur time and building muscle memory I dont see a problem with it

[@nighthoundgaming339]

in other words dont focus on ur high score focus on being consistent with ur score

[@GREED_EU]

Muscle memory has no relation to aim

[@hellshaked6530]

​@@GREED_EUit does just not in the way people say it does. If u actually look at what muscle memory is, you can do almost no motor skills without it.

[@megaflora4642]

according to “highlights” you are the one who needs aim training

[@GREED_EU]

Are you reoffering to my aim in this video or another one? Also even if that is the case, how does that disprove what I said?

[@megaflora4642]

@@GREED_EU I mean how can you talk about aim training process and its pros/cons if you’re the average one So you absolutely don’t have enough experience to do that kind of videos IMHO

[@GREED_EU]

Aim coaching is my full time job lmao. Look at any of my gameplay vids or Kovaaks ones. My aim translates from Trainer to in-game almost perfectly, outside of some TS scenarios.@@megaflora4642

[@nervz]

what are ur thoughts on using mouse accel for val?

[@GREED_EU]

I’m not a fan

[@AdammVAL]

I often see VT members have clips of their Aimlabs or KovaaKs scenarios and they get WR scores but when they go into a game like Val, CS, OW or Apex they perform at an average level or slightly above average. I think its because they try to get good at KovaaKs more than the game they originally wanted to get better at.

[@GREED_EU]

And that is exactly my complaint. In a lot of cases, not all but a lot, the skill has 0 transfer because they are not actually training their aim, they're training their Kovaaks/aimlabs ability, which is completely different.

[@notcoffinfps]

the thing is, there’s tons of aim trainer players who performs at a high tier in game tho. Viscose, Luciian, Doki (Apex), Tenji, Salzi, Bulldog (Val), minigod, Shenox, zeeke (CS), weyfo, Ceiba, cursed (OW) as some of the example.

[@GREED_EU]

@@notcoffinfps mingod trains properly and doenst score farm. Viscose can only target switch, Luciian doesn’t score farm as far as I know. Doki doesn’t translate between kovaaks and apex. I mean no one you named score farms/optimises and also has the same raw aim output in game.

[@notcoffinfps]

@@GREED_EU wym tho minigod is literally known to score farm static as well as bulldog and bulldog’s playing T2 (or used too?). Luciian does chase scores on some scenario and back then she was grinding even more aim trainers (i’m literally in the same org as her). Viscose doesn’t only target switch, she has tons of high reactive scores. Salzi is a well known bench grinder and is obviously translating his main category of precision tracking into val. ceiba grinds aim trainer and does “score farming”, weyfo was also a huge aim trainer player. to add to that JuicerQT is a “score farmer” and a top 200 OW, and also cartoon is a high tier benchmark player while being radiant

[@SwiftStrafes]

How would I go about actually improving should I benchmark once a week?

[@GREED_EU]

I completely avoid the benchmarks and refer to old footage to see my weakness and improvements

[@SwiftStrafes]

@@GREED_EU aight thanks love the videos keep it up❤️

[@Nox-Nyx]

Good video, I just don't like how the title led me into this video with a negative impression.

[@GREED_EU]

They called me a pedo for uploading this. I think it’s justified

[@Nox-Nyx]

@@GREED_EU Woah, now that's some justification.

[@synthwavesun2450]

Looking up to you should be fine, right? I mean you inspired me to ignore my scores and focus on improvement and you pretty much proved to me, that you can be insane at aiming with a high sens (I switched to high sens and I feel much more comfortable with it)

[@GREED_EU]

I think you should look up to your future self.

[@synthwavesun2450]

@@GREED_EUyk what that's very good advice

[@Yeniww]

Thx for the tip

[@bixcs2]

I'm sure you won't comment on this as it is in reference to a specific player but MattyOW posted a vid a bit ago about snowi and smoothness in dynamic and such. I had the thought of "floaty aim is only good in aim trainers and not actual fps games" that you say in your aim science vid. Do you think this is the case even for players like snowi?

[@GREED_EU]

Snowi has insanely good mouse control, probably the best in the world when it comes to smoothness, however. His skills are non transferable outside of an aim trainer. Sure he looks cripsy on dynamic, but why does that matter if his aim is dogshit outside of it.

[@Gweriaa]

@@GREED_EU In which way do his skills not transfer to games? Just looking at his old silly tf2 clip compilations, its blatantly clear that you dont naturally develop aim like that just by playing a bit, unless i misunderstood ur message.

[@GREED_EU]

His strongest feature in respect to his aim trainer aim is his unbelievable smoothness. However the smoothness is not in reference to his tracking, but instead to his dynamic clicking. Sure he can do it in game, but it's laughable unviable. His dynamic clicking is so buttery smooth, and that is the issue, you are meant to be snappy, not gliding to your target. In what scenario in an FPS game ever does slowly gliding your mouse around ever beat hard snaps in terms of clicking? It doesn't, making this skill essentially non transferable, because it should never be used.@@Gweriaa

[@bixcs2]

I figured that'd be what you'd say. Thanks for takin the time! great video man@@GREED_EU

[@hdono8542]

@@GREED_EUBro… Seriously? The point of withholding flicks(not being snappy) in dynamic is to practice reading bot movement and click timing, it’s training THAT specific skill and because of this I genuinely got better in dynamic and CS despite being new to aim-trainers or aiming in general. If you want to train snappiness then train micro flicks or TS. It’s why snowi is so good at hitting people by barely moving their crosshair in their csgo clips. Kind of like Swag’s crosshairs placement where they position their crosshairs where they are leading.

[@Hyperion9700]

I miss cache

[@literallysweden]

Yo bro play ARSENAL on roblox

[@Karthig1987]

Good videos. Do you enjoy CS go or whatever that game on the screen is? All the best with OW 2

[@GREED_EU]

I loved CSGO, and then it was replaced with CS2. Which is a pile of wank

[@Karthig1987]

@@GREED_EU I know this is gonna be an embarrassing admission but I know CS go has existed for a few years but I somehow missed cs2 existing. Till recently when I saw it referenced in comments.

[@GREED_EU]

Yeah it's a pile of shit and likely will be for the next year or so@@Karthig1987

[@Karthig1987]

@@GREED_EU wait what you can see the future? Or you don't think they gonna care for a minimum of 1 year lol

[@GREED_EU]

Every CS game was mega dogshit for a year because they always release games super early, and then fix shit later. It's usually a year before the game is even playable.@@Karthig1987

[@venturebm]

how could you say this, yet you haven't reached the highest ranks in games period? the aimers in VT are quite literally the highest ranks in the titles they play whilst having insane aim while you struggle in the mid elos...

[@GREED_EU]

I was rank 1 EU on faceit in CSGO, I'm top 500 all roles in Overwatch, I've been pred in Apex, Diamond in siege before champ was implemented and more. Plus, it isn't like these games are PURELY aim based, they require a lot of other skills as well. Plus, from what I've seen, most VT player AREN'T in the highest ranks. Matty for example is like low masters with a mercy pocket on soldier. At least he has been whenever I saw him playing.

[@trulyamaz1ng-nu8yf]

majority of high ranked voltaic players arent even near pro level in their most played fps titles, sure they might have aim on par with or better than SOME pros but more factors are there than just mouse control

[@paradax1]

my GOAT

[@DashhMobile]

Nuclear threat..

[@Torbintime]

Very good video. Matty_ow "best aimer NA" is a prime example of a score grinder, his aim is good but hes not even close to hitscan pros in overwatch even with his many kvks wolrd records. Playing the same scenario for 4 hours a day until the rng is just right wont improve aim much.

[@AIMLESS-NAMELESS]

Tbh it seems like you have more of a problem with the people that play vt benchmarks

[@whafoe]

Is it good if I reset every time I get 4 misses or miss within the first 10 seconds?

[@harrissmith3868]

I'm expert; (silver static). Any miss you get exit the game and then reinstall. It's the only way.

[@whafoe]

@@harrissmith3868 alright 😊

[@GREED_EU]

If you’re using the bard method then that’s fine. It’s the constant spamming of the rest button and only going when you get good bots that’s aids

[@whafoe]

@@GREED_EU thanks 😊 🙏 😘 ☺️ 💕 ❤️ 😊 🙏 😘 ☺️ 💕 ❤️ 😊 🙏 😘 ☺️ 💕 ❤️ 😊 🙏 😘 ☺️ 💕 ❤️ 😊 🙏 😘 ☺️ 💕 ❤️ 😊 🙏 😘 ☺️ 💕 ❤️ 😊 🙏

[@gamist8166]

I love the voltaic vdim playlists to help optimize the motions needed for the benchmarks. Gone from under plat to master now and in overwatch i got t500 from master. I think i had to relearn reactive to be intentional and not random shakiness at some point throughout, but i dont see bad habits outside of that.

[@EvanPhan-b5f]

Did you use the novice or intermediate routines

[@gamist8166]

​@@EvanPhan-b5ffor benchmarks, I started novice to find out I should do intermediate. After a few hundred hours now I'm moving into advanced as I'm masters in most of em now. The vdim playlists though I used their recommended difficulty for my rank at the time, going from med/intermediate to advanced

[@gamist8166]

@@EvanPhan-b5f Didnt see this 6 months ago lol sry I started novice, ended up being gold and I'd probs have gold complete quickly if I pursued it. I went on to intermediate. The actual VDIMs I use though I tend to go one tier up in skill, because my frustrations don't get in the way of my training at the higher level and itll help grow faster. Either way jus find out where you lie in terms of novice or intermediate, and work from there if you're not the top rank in the category. Gl

[@艾]

true + 5k!!!

[@GREED_EU]

So freaking true. Hotdogs tonight

[@cairopls]

Yo do you have any tips for getting more consistent aim? some days ill perform really well for my skill level and get into flow state pretty easy, and some days my aim and performance in my game will be just abysmal. I know that theres just gonna be good and bad days for everything, but id appreciate advice on getting my aim more consistent. Sorry if this is a stupid question im relatively new to aim training

[@GREED_EU]

Honestly it could just be a case of bad sleep, bad eating habits, lack of exercise or other outside factors. with so little information it's hard to identify a root cause but it's possible that an outside source is the cause of your issues

[@cairopls]

@@GREED_EU definitely sleep for me, been trying to get a good schedule going but i recently havent been getting enough sleep to the point of dozing off in class and such. I know its already a problem but didnt think it would mess up my aim. Thanks man

[@seoo]

not related but do you think a 6cm/360 is possible to be good with?

[@GREED_EU]

Sure, if you have the time and genetics for it