Why I joined the Twelve Tribes community/cult! How I was drawn in.

I was in the Twelve Tribes cult for 8 years! I learned so much while I was there, and even more since I've been out! This video is about the specific things that drew me into being a member. Things don't always end up as they appear!
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[@milehighmullet8200]

I've been on a binge watching about the 12 tribes it's really crazy glad yah got out

[@jillybeenz8699]

yeah, thanks! lotsa good, but a lot of not so good. At least for me!

[@jenifermikos8242]

of course its good, so you can disobey god and call what it commands abuse and a cult, for transexual homosexual worship, miscogenation worship, pharmekia, sorcery , usury you know all that holy stuff....

[@mckaylaburgos8595]

Me too, my brother joined back in 2017 and I was very close to joining. Even recently. The way they live, their sustainability, the sovereignty is so on point and the way they farm is the best I’ve seen anywhere. Their network too.. every time I go to visit him it gets harder to leave. But recently I went with my child who just turned 1 and it was even more hard to leave because of how the women lived and how much support the mothers would get from each other, the simplicity of life and the amount of love that everyone poured out. Everything was attractive to me but there are still too many things that I don’t agree with that I never will agree with that are essential to living there.. tonight I was looking up so many videos people made about their abuse and these kinds of videos where people left and shared their testimony and I’m convinced that I want to get my brother out of there and come live with me, I did use to want to get him out but then I believed the purity of these people. Now I want to do everything I can to show him that the world is okay and he is safe with me..

[@eriogerg100]

I grew up there in the community in Winnipeg as did my parents. Left in 2009. Good people, horrible ideology.

[@jillybeenz8699]

way to nail it on the head. good people, harsh doctrine 👍

[@shelbyengbrock2937]

Hey, my name is Shelby. My sister Mary and I joined in Manitou in the late fall of 2010 and our mom and two little sisters followed shortly after. We did not stay too long but I definitely remember you! It's so nice to hear someone else talk about things that are so relatable. It's been 11 years and I still think about a lot of it pretty consistently but it's a difficult topic because not many others understand. I'm so glad to see you are doing well!

[@jillybeenz8699]

Hello SHelby! I remember yall! It was a nice place, but there was a lot more than met the eye! Good to hear from ya.

[@ThePercussion10]

I definitely understand it!

[@akowboysjourney9514]

I was with the TT for years and I left! My daughter, whom I can't talk to, is still there! I still believe that people should come together in communities!

[@jillybeenz8699]

We are not meant to be alone! it's against human nature. But, we are also made to have free will. Let her know you'll always be there for her no matter what!

[@robertvazquez2964]

I was drawn to the 12 Tribes because of the communal life but left because of how controlling they are and just giving your whole life up completely to where you can’t even read a book other than the Bible or their tracts but I’m still interested in communal life.

[@akowboysjourney9514]

@@robertvazquez2964 Check out my other channel "Kowboy Conscious Community 4"

[@mavismalpenny3782]

yes, I think people really long for community. Its just natural in this cold crazy world

[@MrSh4des]

That's is evil and tells you everything you need to know about this group. Isolating family members from each other because you want complete control.

[@CampfireJubilee]

I visited the 12 Tribes three times on my AT journey.... for what I needed at the time, they were a great blessing. But I only spent a few days each time and did not get to know many of the beliefs or anything like that. I did appreciate their kindness to hikers for sure.

[@smittys3069]

They drug and rape people you LIAR!

[@jillybeenz8699]

They are indeed kind folks. It just gets a bit sticky when you decide to give your life to them.

[@briarrose5208]

Hi, thank you for sharing your story. Im sure your experience will help other people who might be wondering about the Twelve Tribes. I’m so glad you got out. That took a lot of strength and courage. You had a lot to recover from after eight years. I wish you and your family all the best. And I hope for you a healthy, loving community of people who accept, support and help each other, with respect for each person’s boundaries, integrity and individuality, without trying to control how others think and live.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yess! I hope it will give light to people as well. I appreciate your wishes for us ☺️, I love being around people without the control and manipulation 😁. I wish you wonderful things as well, perhaps similar because it seems you've thought about that before ☺️.

[@davidboamah6679]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Cults come in different shapes and sizes. This helps

[@jillybeenz8699]

Indeed they do. After coming out I was able to recognize some red flags for sure!

[@TheFunkybert]

Ok.. I’m not having flashback trips it’s just this crazy camera effects, right? My story with 12 tribes was brief, but here I am 30+ years later.. curious how the tribe has fared through their journey together. 1993, Grateful Dead, fall tour, old Boston Garden. 12 tribes bus parked on the corner in the heart of it all… Invited onto the bus. Energy was welcoming. Food was organic and bountiful. People were all so nice, healthy, loving, and welcoming. I almost accepted the offer to go back to a tribe community in Connecticut for an upcoming wedding. Had no idea I skirted fate that evening. Choose you own adventure. I’m very grateful for what you have shared here today sister. No matter the cost of mind manipulation of self, no one has permission to take our soul. Your are courageous and beautiful JillyBean. blessings 🙏

[@brianwalsh1401]

It's good you put this information out here for people to see what they are getting into. I think a lot of people have the experience early in life about where they fit in or are maybe disconnected from family. Cults feed on this and I'm glad I never came across one at that age or I might have joined. I'm pretty sure my brother was trying to steer me into this cult. He met them at a concert and use to visit one of their compounds. He'd say, you gotta check it out and in marriages the man always makes the decisions. He tried to join once after all else had failed in life and they wouldn't take him because he wanted to have his rules, not their's, because he was a narcissist. If he was willing to follow directions, sign over his SSD check and work 12 hours a day at the Yellow Deli they probably would've have taken him but he wouldn't because, he was a narcissist. He wanted join and be mid level cult management and of course that wasn't going to happen. At the time it didn't occur to me that he was trying to get me in. He invited me to a concert where they had there bus and ship. After the show he insisted I go look at them I was tired and after a few minutes my friend grabbed my arm and said, let's go. I'm grateful for that. Then insisted several times I visit their compound 4 hours away. I never went and knew nothing about the 12 tribes until a few years later when finally I looked them up and found out they were a cult. I was in my 40's at the time and my narcissist ahole brother was trying to get me to quit my job and go in a cult. I didn't figure out he was a narcissist until after all this had occurred. Such a scumbag, but that's what narcissist are. So again thank you for informing people of your story and to be very careful because things don't always as they appear and the price to be paid to join is too high, your soverinty I'm glad you got out.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Phew! Seems like you escaped meeting them many times! It's good to be educated before spending time with them. Alas, just spending time with them won't make you a member if you have your guard up and can see through their tactics. They definitely like people to be "surrendered" or vulnerable when they join. Glad you didn't get sucked in, thanks for the reply ☺️

[@brianwalsh1401]

@@jillybeenz8699 Yes, thank you for your reply. The thing is I'm a codependent and now I'm in recovery. At the time I wasn't and I was very susceptible to my brother, just like when I was a kid. I was vulnerable and had no idea who 12 tribes were. I was so pissed when I figured out they were a cult and my ahole brother was trying to get me in. Those dynamics don't change until you work on your issues. I always felt that if I had come across a slick cult person that I would've gotten sucked in. I had weak boundaries and low self esteem which is why I ended up with a covert narcissist. Narcissists and sociopaths usually run cults. I was in a cult of one with my ex. I am lucky to have dodged the 12 tribe bullet. My brother was such an ahole but so are all narcissists. Funny story. My brother actually flew out to San Diego because he wanted to be in a sunny climate 12 tribes "community". I knew he was a narcissist by this time and I told my younger brother that they weren't going to take him. Sure enough they didn't. The only thing he would say was they couldn't come to a meeting of the minds. They didn't want him because he was like 60 at the time and wasn't going to be compliant or of any value to them. Like I said in my previous post if he had given them his SSD check every month, worked for 12 hours a day and was compliant maybe they would've. The narcissist wanted to be mid level management so they told him to get lost. He also had to have surgery to remove a toe because of his out of control diabetes while he was out there. He died 2 years later from his uncontrolled diabetes. God love him but he caused a lot of damage in the world from having been damaged by my parents. He was brutal to me at times growing up. I was his minion. I finally started working on my issues and was able to finally figure out narcissistic pd and my brother and ex wife. Do you think there were narcissists running the 12 tribes when you were in because getting people under control is one of the narcissists usual m.o. Keep up the good work Jilly Beenz.

[@jillybeenz8699]

I am not completely clear on my definition of a narcissist, so don't know for sure. But (some) of the leaders definitely enjoyed being a leader if ya catch my drift! Definitely working out my issues of co dependence. Glad to be growing into a more full and complete me!

[@joemadre9550]

I can't imagine being so arrogant that you think you know what happens when you die and not only that but you get to tell everyone else how wrong they are for not thinking what you do.

[@jillybeenz8699]

It's true, so many things to learn in life! Gotta keep an open mind and allow expansion 🌎✨

[@SilvioManfredDante85]

Hahahahahaha.

[@joemadre9550]

@@SilvioManfredDante85 Muahahahaha

[@Questthecat]

Love the video effects adding to the story!

[@jillybeenz8699]

Oh good! They didn't make you sick? 🤣

[@Questthecat]

@@jillybeenz8699 no mam. And that's exactly why I decided to comment. Not everyone gets dizzy when the world spins, some of us keep trekking, eh? Big love to you, sister.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Ah. love it. Thanks 🙏🏾 It just keeps on spinning, doesn't it 😂. Glad you enjoy the ride! 🌀

[@crystalringwold491]

Thank you for responding so fast Jilly! but do you think if i send mail to a family member that is in there, it will get opened and censored by the office first? also...when the members talk on the phone, are the conversations being recorded? i have a family member in there that I want to get out so badly, but it is so difficult to make contact. ugh!

[@jillybeenz8699]

I'm not really sure the degree of censorship with personal mail/conversations. In my limited experience with that i didn't notice any censorship, but I can't say for sure. That can be really frustrating/worrysome. Have you watched my vid about family members in the Twelve Tribes? That might help a bit☺️

[@crystalringwold491]

@@jillybeenz8699 I will watch it. thank you again.

[@rebel1969X2]

Good luck, make sure to tell them that Jesus loves everybody. No matter where you live.

[@Nil49-p4p]

I was in the tribes for 3 years, I got mail and packages from family and friends. Others did as well. They were never opened by anyone. As far as the phone, unless they've decided to embrace technology, there's no recording equipment.

[@RedsBigRig]

0:46 is such an amazing trippy picture!♥️

[@organicflatearthprepper7498]

Was in community for ten years from 2002-2011. I have a similar story.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Glad to relate!

[@discountovid8325]

Lived there for five years in Missouri. Good times, until they weren't. That was '95 to '99.

[@jillybeenz8699]

that sums it up! i lived in Missouri for a time too. how'd you leave?

[@discountovid8325]

@@jillybeenz8699 I was in KC, doing 10 hours a day at a warehouse job with a bunch of other single brothers. We got to visit Warsaw every other weekend for breaking of bread, but otherwise it was just a bunch of us stinking up a basement, while a couple of married couples lived upstairs. After a sabbath of being told how grateful I should be to just be saved I realized it was all fake and just took a walk and didn't look back. I was pretty messed up for long time after, because I really believed at first. At the end I finally accepted they were just using me for free labor and the whole thing was just a facade. I was Yosef Ben B'rith back then. :)

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yup. I lived there too for a time. In a different place I was in charge of cleaning the single brother house. Stinky? Yes! Sooo much work to do, all for others. Never for yourself. Very draining!

[@resourcesedu1676]

Wow 8yrs! Did you meet someone, have friends, marry? I have not joined, but definitely know much, have chatted, dined and shopped at the stores and restaurants they have. You are correct about the group think, shedding old ways, etc, but they are adhering strictly to Jewish ancient teachings I believe. Got to be aware while engaged in groups for certain. Glad to hear you are your own person and happier!

[@jillybeenz8699]

Hello! yes, yes, and yes. And had kids! I made very tight friendships for sure. We lived around the same people for 8 years! They are definitely doing their best to be strict to the Hebrew teachings! But in my experience the elders perception of what that is came before real care and love for people. From the outside it really looks like everything is put together real well, but inside (after years) things become very raw and doesn't always unite with what was previously presented. Be careful! Giving up everything is a HUGE commitment. It causes damage to relationships and to your own self. All the best!!

[@akowboysjourney9514]

@@jillybeenz8699 Yes, they forgot how to love!

[@Uncaged_cricket]

I lived in Manitou in 2009 and went into the cafe a few times. I wonder if i ever saw you? I was part of my own family cult at the time (and escaped shortly after) and felt a kindship with the controlling vibe i felt there… zombified

[@jillybeenz8699]

I bet you did! I was pretty much always there during the day in that year. I got married a bit after then started having kids, so then I was home all the time. Definitely got that controlling vibe goin on! How are you doing now? ☺️

[@stevehowes9598]

So I just visited the Twelve Tribes in Vermont today. I lived there for 11 years. I had some business on the Basin Farm and stayed for the gathering etc.

[@robertvazquez2964]

I was with them for a while about 16 years ago in California. It was cool at first but you certainly can’t think for yourself anymore. They had a big vision about the 12 Tribes being established and about the 144,000 male virgins and every 7 years there would be a year of jubilee which would eventually culminate at the end of the age but that never or hasn’t began.

[@jillybeenz8699]

yup. I guess we'll see! Who knows, what they preach could be true to whatever extent, but for me I'm here now rocking life outta the cult.

[@martinvtodd9502]

I was in the 12 tribes community they have wonderful food and their music is really good too.

[@kennykidd777]

Hey thanks for sharing I was a part of the same type of fellowship in the international church of Christ with similar / same message for converting peopleAnd. So happy you are free of that to be led by the Holy Spirit as Jesus wants us to be on earth. Not under doctrines of man!

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes! Free of other's will for my life! Taking personal responsibility! Growing in independence 😊 glad for you too😊

[@TexasRoast]

I have a pretty good horror story about the international cult of Christ. Specifically involves my best friend...

[@CookedAF2]

Im going thru the middle of a pretty interesting story about the mormon church now im still going butt some red flags have poped up im giong to talk to my bishop tomarow about them we will se what happens.

[@Cinnaforlife]

Was your experience a good one or a bad one?

[@jillybeenz8699]

There were definitely good parts, but overall NOT a recommend experience. it's never good when you are told to give up your sovereignty!

[@larkspurrose3136]

Yes, almost joined Island Pond off Dead lot in early 90's!

[@parkerhoffman1723]

I visited the twelve tribes many times in the late 90s, I too enjoyed the idea of community life. I’m not sure they didn’t slip me drugs in my food, it’s always been a question I’ve had, my eyes always looked weird/ different after visiting with them. In the end I decided it wasn’t for me but I’ve always wondered how my life could have been very different than it ended up. Thank you for sharing your story

[@jillybeenz8699]

yea, community is good. A lost aspect here in America. Being around people that have similar values and are trustworthy. Hard to find tho. TT just forces everyone into their God shaped box, coupled with shame and deprivation of all sorts. Don't know about the drugs...never came across anything that I remember...

[@derk420x]

they wouldn’t do that lol

[@ThePercussion10]

Hey this is Chazaq-Anav and I'm no longer with the Twelve Tribes either. Baptized at Chickamauga Dam near Chattanooga, worked at the yellow deli there and love in community at Asheville, NC and then Savannah and Brunswick, GA. Baptized in 2007 and I made it to the end of 2008. I think they're great ppl, but unforgiving. That to me spoke volumes about who they say they are. We're all supposed to be forgiving each other whether your in the Twelve Tribes community or not. I did visit the Manitou springs, CO community in 2019 as well as Brunswick Georgia. I used to evangelise on the Peacemaker Marine Ship..lol! We should talk..lol

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes good people, not a good doctrine. Glad we're out!

[@akowboysjourney9514]

My name was "Beniah", I was in Chattanooga and left in Asheville! My daughter was a red head named Masussa! I still believe in communities! I'm actually on a property now trying to establish a community!🤠

[@TalesoftheRescueRoad-gf9fm]

I never joined but I considered the folks in BC friends and super kind and loving ... I went to their service and pizza nights and volunteered a bit at yellow deli... there are doctrinal things I am at odds with and I rescue animals so it is not a perfect fit ... but love being around them!

[@chazzeiler9753]

I’m sorry that you had to deal with that. I’m not a native but I lived in Colorado Springs for 9 nine years.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Sure learned a lot from it! Hopefully my experience can help people see it a bit more clear and make the best choice for themselves 😉

[@DelusionDispeller]

never visited but I'm sure I've seen them around in the past. I know there is a community in Hamburg, NY which is a place I went to a LOT growing up

[@jillybeenz8699]

yup. they're all over😂

[@jillybeenz8699]

you can feel free to visit and talk to them, but just don't get yourself too attached 😬

[@mmagoldi11]

i want in

[@nadinenc3097]

Are all the coffee shops called Common Ground cafe part of the cult?

[@derk420x]

yes

[@hallmt]

I’m looking for Zahar from Ithaca - the last time I spoke of him I felt his presence in the room… I wasn’t the only one who felt it. I knew him before his venture with the tribes. No kidding every single person got chills and it was like he was above us all, at my mundane job. Straight up scared everyone but I know him. I have interesting plot twists and turns to tell him of my own birthright. I hope he is well, but knowing him he’s in charge or something by now if he stayed.

[@hallmt]

Addendum- I visited manitou recently as I live in Colorado still. Great to meet real weirdos that haven’t been priced out of mountain towns @mushroommondays

[@hallmt]

My interest is just my friend not passing judgement, he was a great talker, born leader and a true balance of dark and light. Holy isn’t what people think or say it is, but anyone knows it when they see it

[@jillybeenz8699]

Hmmm. only knew one Zahar. Doubt it's the same man. Yup, keep manitou weird👍 and...I believe you ☺️ All the best 💫

[@hallmt]

@@jillybeenz8699 was there a little girl he looked after with cystic fibrosis?

[@jillybeenz8699]

@@hallmt i don't recall, sorry. 😕

[@DougGrinbergs]

Boulder Yellow Deli vibe seemed OK when I visited some years ago. Concerned about unsavory things I've found out recently.

[@HOTROD-wj4rm]

I’m here with you. The fire is weird

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes, the vibe presents itself as wholesome and peaceful. But it goes much deeper. Ask a deli worker how many hours they work at the deli... Unsavory and unsweetened I'd say. But it looks good on the outside!

[@Just_Another_Hoosier]

Very interesting.

[@jillybeenz8699]

I went through it so you don't have to 😂

[@WaterMeA-biscuit]

Its the invasion if privacy that is the deal breaker for me, I've been in a few of these situations and each time the group doesnt like when you have alone time for yourself.

[@sharonsmith6346]

Please make more videos!!

[@jillybeenz8699]

appreciated 🙏🏽 About what exactly 😂?

[@TheFunkybert]

Ok.. I’m not having flashback trips it’s just this crazy camera effects, right?

[@womenaresacred3829]

Have you seen Kevin Graves? It’s believed he was taken into the 12 tribes bus-from Electric Forest in Michigan.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Oh gee😬. I haven't. That's a hard one. It's possible. Remember people go by different names once they've been baptized into the group. Hebrew names. I have no idea, sorry to hear.

[@womenaresacred3829]

@@jillybeenz8699 Thanks for the reply, my daughter and I are heading to Electric Forest today. His family is always there passing out fliers, still searching for info, I’ll be meeting up with them to help

[@jillybeenz8699]

@@womenaresacred3829 You cooould look up close TT communities to there, pull a surprise visit 😬? Just an idea. And If you did do that don't go with intent to pull him out, I would recommend it would only be for information sake. Good luck 🤞🏾

[@aarenmarchi_xL]

honestly id love to join if it wasnt so old style. but im all about communal living

[@kruszer]

I visited one in Chilliwack, British Columbia (Canada) back in fall 2009. I was there a few weeks, I think. You're right! It's a very attractive lifestyle. The communal life and their self sufficiency was awesome. I loved learning how to milk goats and growing organic produce in the Greenhouse. They even had a wood-heated hot tub that was so nice in the middle of November! Working in the cafe was fun too... The teachings about child rearing and about black people (that slavery was a good thing!) were ultimately what caused me to rethink my stay and say goodbye. But I would still go back to visit if I had the chance.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes!! The lifestyle is definitely what attracted me. Community and cooperation is wonderful! But alas, the doctrine is harsh and condemning (in my perspective). There definitely are a good few things going on there, but for me it's far from worth the price of giving up my #freedom of choice. All the best! Thanks for your comment 👍!

[@wruff378]

You are quite aware they believe blacks should be slaves and also their decades long record on child abuse as well as other abuses, yet still you want to go back 'cause that wood-heated hot tub was awesome and you really dig the communal lifestyle. :facepalm:

[@gigi2k326]

There's a yellow deli here in my tiny town

[@jillybeenz8699]

I believe you. Out East are ya?

[@shanealston3770]

Hope you’re doing well!

[@jillybeenz8699]

Shane do I know you from the group?🤔

[@shanealston3770]

@@jillybeenz8699 yeah I was there when you were in Manitou and Boulder. Shanan

[@jillybeenz8699]

aw my gawsh? THE Shannan?

[@jillybeenz8699]

I was worried that you got married off!

[@shanealston3770]

@@jillybeenz8699 almost but nope, got out a while back and I’m actually about to get married in a few months

[@janeenbreyman212]

I have been studying twelve tribes since they have been mentioned in the Colorado fire. I was not familiar with them. I'm positive I would have been sucked in if I had met them while in college. I'm learning that people sell their houses and cars and give all their money to the tribe. How did you "get in"? Did you have student loan or credit card debt?

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes. It's all in. Debt, assets, decisions, relationships, your essence and beliefs and pretty much everything else is given up when joined. I got in because I was convinced it was the next part of my life's journey. Giving up everything is the only way in. 😬 I had little to give, a car and a couple thousand dollars, as well as debt that was never taken care of. I left with nothing except debt and a lot of beliefs that i have been sifting through to regain my independence and personal power. I learned so much, but have needed to take a lot of time to regain my independence and self belief.

[@thedomestead3546]

@@jillybeenz8699 WOW

[@crystalringwold491]

Jilly, can someone in the twelve tribes receive a letter in the mail?

[@jillybeenz8699]

yes ☺️ as far as i know!

[@carmenbrown3437]

A lot of people say they are too smart but, the first sign is isolation.

[@onetinyrhino]

I've been really considering finding these people. I'm losing hope for humanity and can't seem to find my people. I need to know more

[@jillybeenz8699]

I hear that! But we all have so much to offer for the hope of humanity! You don't need to give your power away! Watch Shiny Happy People on Amazon Prime...Super similar control tactics. Nobody can tell you what's right for you but you! All the best 🙏

[@TheFunkybert]

There are other tribes.. start with intentional communities. Choose wisely. This is your life, your journey, walk a courageous path. 🙏

[@ericah6546]

Congratulations! Leaving isn't always easy. I was in Scientology for 2.5 very intense years, fully brainwashed that we were saving the planet. I've been out for over a decade now 😊

[@jillybeenz8699]

Phew. Congrats to you too! Brainwashing can be thorough for sure. And healing is definitely a process! We've been out for about 8 years and I still have to work through things that I know stem from the group. May we be stronger and wiser from it! 🙏🏾

[@Cinnaforlife]

I might just go the Friday dinners, or maybe stay over a weekend. This sounds like the beneficial part, without the risks.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes. That's where it all begins! Just be cautious!

[@fathertime9433]

Free food? I'm there.

[@jillybeenz8699]

just keep your guard up! That's where it starts for everyone.

[@jillybeenz8699]

it's good food too! but there's definitely a price to pay and not without risk!

[@imcharmed4evr]

U had a college debt, right? What do people who have a college debt do about it?

[@jillybeenz8699]

Hello there☺️ I came in with some college debt and an old car. They gladly accepted the car and told me my college debt would be theirs as well, but many times when I mentioned the debt it was neglected. I left still having the same amount of debt, and no car😁

[@imcharmed4evr]

@@jillybeenz8699 - Awe, sorry to hear that, but that’s what I figured.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Thankfully my parents helped me out (you know, the people the TT has been telling me to ignore for the last 8 years!). Crazy, huh?

[@thedomestead3546]

@@jillybeenz8699 Jesus was still with Mary to the end.... Whats up with that?!?!

[@wreckastow3518]

Twelve tribes of what exactly?

[@jillybeenz8699]

They say "of Isreal". I'm not going to get into their beliefs, but there are 12 geographic locations around the globe.

[@wreckastow3518]

@@jillybeenz8699 smh... wrong complexion.

[@adamcuttler9665]

Im just learning about there religion but i do love there food

[@karimoon5323]

So,who gets and keeps the books or THE MONEY..Springs claimed to pay taxes on property etc..however his ex prophet says they took the " No Tax advantage"

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yeah, not totally sure where it all goes. Nobody gets paid, I know that much. I believe they claim to be a church for tax purposes, but am not sure about all the cash and assets.

[@bomedley7144]

I encountered the twelve tribes to there definitely a cult

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yep! According to a few experts in the field, the 12 tribes definitely checks off some of the boxes! Thankfully not all of them tho!

[@NarcArtTherapy]

There was so much I liked but a handful of things that were just deal breakers. The doctrine never had me though I was involved for a year. That pissed people off and eventually I had to leave. I still miss some of the people. I don't have a close relationship with my family so I was looking for a surrogate. But I think the cult pulls in people who are disconnected from real friends and family. I was baptized so I felt bad leaving because I think they finally accept you once you are baptized. Anyway, thank you for sharing your story. Love to talk with you sometime.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yup. The people and the community is what i miss most. They definitely look for the loners out there in the world! It would be fun to connect ☺️

[@scottshepardson1196]

I was in the 12 tribes for almost 20 years. I'm not there right now...but I don't have one single bad thing to say about them.

[@scottshepardson1196]

I don't see how people could even use the word cult. It doesn't even apply, look up the meaning and you will see that it means some persuasive leader fooling people to perceived things a certain way. I never experienced that and I was there over 18 years. Definitely not a cult, was the best thing that ever happened to me.

[@derk420x]

hey i was born there

[@louisdufour4106]

Twelve Tribes seems like a good experience. I'm southern Baptist and I remember my preacher I sold a pound of weed a month to say we won't go to hell for smoking.. only we will smell like we been there. Keep it real jellybeanz I can't wait to hear about your adventure more

[@jillybeenz8699]

Super appreciate it 🙏 Funny sometimes how hypocritical the world can be, huh?

[@JPLEGACYTRADES]

I was interested in hearing your story, but the all the weird camera angles gave me a headache. Chose to stop by 4 min. If you do another , more simple, please let me know.

[@oupsie9021]

Who is operating the camera 😱

[@jillybeenz8699]

It's a Insta360 oneX2

[@williambruyette1567]

Dear sweet person. You are ment to live in a Hippie community lol I strongly encourage you to look into cooperation living. There are lots of community in the USA. That focus not on religion but respect.

[@jillybeenz8699]

I know, right?? A lot more freedom i assume. Still, glad to share what i learned!

[@ericah6546]

Rainbow Family offers communal life without a cult mindset. There are others.

[@JohnAguilar1023]

lol. Thats a good one. A cult that’s not a cult. Rainbow lmfao. Could we meet so I could take your soul for my own. Herambae told me to take u. The mothership needs souls. Kook

[@SpoiledStarlynn]

Grinch fingers

[@heatherreilly6595]

I love your videos but these camera tricks are making me dizzy

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes, thanks 😊 I've heard that before. I'm working on still using my fun camera without making people nauseous 🤣

[@heatherreilly6595]

@@jillybeenz8699 I think most people will be fine, I was just " blessed " with bad motion sickness lol. I have gotten sea sick on an aircraft carrier ( yeah its a floating city, I was crazy sick lol), cannot do ride simulators, and even got sick snorkeling (who gets motion sickness snorkeling ?)

[@TheBelovedDisciple144]

Yeah. I went to one of their weddings and ate at their Deli a few times. I'm a full blown, spiritual, Christian. Know what I believe, why I believe it and live it out to the fullest. And there are a lot of things I heard them say that I agree with 💯 on. I mean, they are Christians, in a way, with alittle bit of an overly exclusionary kinda culture. "12 Tribes" you know, it's been done a few times. Black Hebrew Israelites, Jehovahs Witnesses. Theres a few groups who like to form cults around the 12 Tribes verses in the Bible. I happen to believe those verses have to do with the ACTUAL nation of Israel and the ACTUAL Jewish people who live there. But who am I to say I know what everything means? Hahaha 🤦 Anyway, crazy doctrines aside, they are really nice people, I consider them brothers and sisters in Christ. But, it's like you said, you have to give up your identity in order to join the collective. And I'm a total individualist. Politically raised Libertarian. In every respect, politically and socially speaking, the Yellow Deli is the perfect example of small scale Communist/Socialist community. Thats exactly what it is, a religious based communist community. Im way to much of an Independent, free thinking, creative individual to be able to surrender my entire identity to join a "Collective" like that. It's the whole hive mind mentality and culture you have to put on in order to join that I could never do. And, I am a bit of a leader of myself and have built good sized Christian groups and communities. But I support the individual, their gifts, abilities, thoughts, opinions and feelings and encourage them to be themselves and let that shine. When I went to the deli I saw how they totally wiped clean that was and that and it was full blown a communal, socialist, collective lifestyle and culture. And thats something I learned from the 12 Tribes about socialism as a political philosophy. It's not just an economic plan, it's a matter of giving up everything you are and believe in, in order to put on the identity of the social collective culture. So it's not just purely an economic issue.. In order to work you have to surrender your whole life and identity to the will of the social collective. And I understand that. And I could never do that. And that was, besides the doctrine, the hardest thing for me to swallow about the 12 Tribes communities. Otherwise the people are super friendly and the food is super good. And as Christians I consider them brothers and sisters with a few wonky views, but it's the Collective culture that really turns me off. I'm a little to much of a staunch, free thinking Individualist for that. But I think for the majority, they all mean well, and there isnt anything overly nefarious going on there.

[@jillybeenz8699]

I can tell you put a lot of thought into things! Good for you. Yes, nice people. Good food. Very isolated. I hear you consider them brothers, and I get you. But don't be surprised if they don't think of you that way... All the best to you!!

[@TheBelovedDisciple144]

@@jillybeenz8699 haha yes I tend to put alot of thought into everything I take seriously for the bit of time I invest into it. All the best to you!!!

[@heathergballew6106]

Genesis 10:1-5. Note vs 3 "Ashkenazi". Then take a look at Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. I don't know what this cult teaches but I do know what the Bible says concerning the biblical Israelites and who they're descendants really are. Duteronomy 28:15-68

[@susan5998]

What a word salad. Good gracious. Add 'narcissist' to your self described "free thinking" abilities, and put a bow on it already.. 😂

[@goodstuff7282]

I'm interested in your message since I've had experience with the cult...the videography is making me far too nauseous.

[@jillybeenz8699]

oh my! good to know! sorry ☺️

[@noelbrown6771]

It sounds like they let you make up your own mind to move in full time and at your own pace. And it seems like you were able, I'm assuming, to separate when you felt you needed to. To me it sounds like they are not a cult.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Well, in some ways yes, but overall not so much. You cannot separate freely. Once you're in you're in! I fully believe it is a cult, but am not trying to convince anyone 🙂. Feel free to check out my other vids to get a broader view if you'd like 😉 Thanks for the comment 😊

[@chasecarter1170]

Have you ever visited them? Have you ever watched them preying on spun people after the shows? Have you seen the condition of the people's minds they try to bend and consume with their doctrines? If not, your determination about them not being a cult doesn't hold quite the weight you imagine it does.

[@jillybeenz8699]

well, indeed. I have visited them for 8 years. as in being a member. and I had visited them since. I was one who was trying to convince people they need to be saved in the bus. so after all these years of healing and reconsideration, I do believe it's a cult. although also, I believe people there have a true heart to help people. I just can't say that everyone has that heart there.

[@chasecarter1170]

@@jillybeenz8699 sorry for the confusion sister, I was replying to Noels comment above not yours!

[@williambruyette1567]

OK OK OK. So hear my words.. yes enlightenment creates a new personality. And you do end up leaving the old behind. But it is found not by letting go. But accepting your self. Lol The kingdom is found inside yourself. Not out side. Or connected to a group. You do have to crawl back into your mother's womb. Remember being in the womb? Remember who you are! And only alone. By your self. You don't need a teacher! Or a cult! I am buhda. I am a anointed son of Jehovah God. I need nothing from another. I tell you this as I was moved by spirt too do so!

[@jillybeenz8699]

The experiences I've been through since I've left have been very personal and specific. And just where I needed to be. I appreciate not having people over me telling me what I'm supposed to be learning!

[@williambruyette1567]

@jillybeenz if you knew your true self. You would understand there is no one over you. Just those who attempt to be over you. You would understand that no one is older then you. That you are a singular entity. There is no you and me. These actions are actions you do too yourself. By letting it happen. And when you choose to harm another you are harming yourself. You create your reality. And in freedom you ALWAYS are given a choice on how you will respond.

[@Questthecat]

@@williambruyette1567 who are you talking to? You or me, or her? I'm curious because I sounds like you're separating and setting yourself high ,while saying we're not separate.

[@JimmyJohnson-oi7yh]

Don’t let their version disrupt your journey to Christ. He is 100% real.

[@scottmoore8986]

Your videos are really interesting and I am glad to know you got out and are helping others. I would suggest that you lay off the trippy camera views. They tend to distract from what your actual message is. Hope you have a great life!

[@jillybeenz8699]

Thanks and thanks ☺️ Yes, I've heard that the views aren't too popular. I'm doing more steady ones nowadays. Thanks for watching, glad you are enjoying 👍

[@karimoon5323]

I'm sorry but if someone wanted me to hand over my possessions and bank account I work dearly field hv to tell em to F- off...Totally

[@jillybeenz8699]

Man, you got it. I mean, the promises they present are profound (and based on faith). But they really seek out lost lonely souls. Some people find home there, but they pay an incredible price.

[@zacraskin5836]

Know that God loves you and that you’re welcome back.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Thanks, I do know G D loves us all.

[@akowboyshippielife7405]

Are you there Zac! I'm looking for my daughter 🤠

[@ashleym4084]

Thanks for sharing. I really wanted to watch the whole thing but the video made me incredibly dizzy

[@jillybeenz8699]

soorrry😬 I'm working on using my sweet camera but not making people nauseous 🤣 Thanks for the feedback 😊

[@9ndn11]

Sounds like she's describing our education system

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes, I see mind control all over the place, especially since I got out! There are definitely elements in our education system 😬

[@LStone-tt9vy]

Hi I am also an ex-member. is there a way to private message you? I am looking to connect with others with a shared experience. thanks

[@jillybeenz8699]

OK! You cand send me your Facebook name and we can connect there?

[@GLBizzie]

Never.. and I mean really NEVER get in contact with so called “ex” member via the internet…

[@jillybeenz8699]

@@GLBizzie may i ask you why?

[@akowboysjourney9514]

I was part of the group

[@Questthecat]

@@jillybeenz8699 his never wants important enough to explain. And you're still here. I love your videos!!!

[@kevincarlson4562]

If there's one thing I'm thankful for,it's for not being a joiner.And never had that touchy-feely need for meaning and purpose in life.If you realize it's impermanent and inherebtly absurd you don't take it that seriously anyway.It just seems like a habit.

[@jillybeenz8699]

🙌😂 totally! Glad you weren't a joiner too! In college I was really searching. I still love learning ways to look at/move through life, but am much more mature in my choices and commitments (or lack thereof)!

[@kevincarlson4562]

@@jillybeenz8699 Hah,glad you've outgrown it for your own good.Cults and prey on the young,innocent and searching,just like pedophiles.I was even wary of fraternities in college.

[@emmanuellight1708]

I follow Jesus according to Bible, so I am against traditional church. I want to meet God fearing wife and have lots of children. Is this possible in this community?

[@jeannenabozny5675]

It may not be for everyone. If you join any group, catholic, mormon, amish etc. your expected to conform to that faith. They have a culture and a faith based life. Over all they are very loving people.

[@jillybeenz8699]

agreed, the doctrine is the danger in my perspective.

[@smittys3069]

They are NOT loving. They drugged and raped.my friend's daughter.

[@kathleenrobinson1594]

The difference with Catholic is that you can leave without it costing you your loved ones. You don’t have to cut ppl out of your life because they believe differently. Making family members and loved ones choose btw their families or beliefs is most certainly a cult.

[@mavismalpenny3782]

Interesting, but as I suspected, you are baptised into the group, not Christ. It doesn’t seem people actually know God or the bible

[@jillybeenz8699]

Can anyone really say they have the perfect version of the Bible? I doubt it. It's up to all of us as individuals to know God in my perspective ☺️

[@mavismalpenny3782]

@@jillybeenz8699 I am not talking about THE perfect version. I agree there is no such thing if what you mean is that we all agree on every detail, BUT, when I visited a 12 tribes friday sabath event, it left me wondering whether these people actually have a true relationship with the saviour. They seem to be stuck in an old testament works based model where salvation is dependent on your fitting in with the community. Christianity is about a realtionship with Christ, not a set of rules.

[@audreyd6725]

Jesus is real and His Spirit lives in me. I got set free from sin and I can say He is the son of God and my personal Savior. Jesus did not call us to join communes or "tribes" as they like people to believe, but to simply deny self (sin) and follow Him. The yellow deli doctrine essentially teaches (at least this is what I've noticed from reading their pamphlets) that you have to surrender your earthly possessions to the community in order to be saved. As a Christian with a new spirit and attitude I have a desire to share my stuff and good things God has blessed me with with other people! But they twist the Bible in to saying things about salvation that are heretical. Also, they shame people who say Jesus and not His Jewish name Yeshua. It's like sorry I speak English...

[@jillybeenz8699]

Well shoot. Yes! To each his own! Good for you 👍 Seems to me we all gotta find our own way in one way or another, but pushing beliefs and guilt on others is where I draw the line. Yep! Let's all help each other out, no matter what we believe/come from ☺️

[@audreyd6725]

Yes as you said there are many different ways to follow in this life. But Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation (the way, the truth, and the life John 14:6). God has provided no other way to be reconciled with Him.. Jesus said, the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go by it. So we can choose to pay for our own sins in an eternity of darkness apart from Him, or simply trust in the payment thats already been made on our behalf! No works, excuses, no strings attached, contrary to what the 12 tribes says. There is nothing we can do to justify ourselves in the eyes of God apart from just believing and accepting His love through faith! He won't force anyone to accept His love though, so we must choose who we want to follow in life. If we want to follow God and the truth, all we have to do is simply ask God for forgiveness of sin and believe. ..I am saying all of this because I care about you and where you will spend eternity. I can't bear to withhold the facts from you that will bring you to the knowledge of eternal life :)

[@MsThebeMoon]

@@audreyd6725 That's your belief. I'm happy to say Jesus Christ is NOT my savior. I do not believe in One God or any at that matter. I have that right. I don't believe in your heaven and in the words of Ron Reagan Jr. "not afraid of burning in hell." There is no proof of your beliefs. You have NONE. Christianity didn't even become legal until 300 years after the tale of JC. A bunch of men decided what was going to be "Christianity" from that point and the first thing those people did, who compiled the bible that you stake your life on, was MURDER. They set out and MURDERED other Christians who did not believe exactly as they did: The Gnostics and Valentinians for example. And the good christians have been murdering ever since and judging everybody else according to their unproven therefore, fictional beliefs.

[@freeranger1677]

Audrey D - The name Jesus is not English it's from the Greek name. If you wanted to say it in English it would be Joshua.

[@Hoodinator17]

growing up in Manitou is an instant L. sorry you had to.

[@jillybeenz8699]

perplexing statement you made...

[@Hoodinator17]

@@jillybeenz8699 I would never raise my kids there. That’s all

[@raydizon9669]

They only called " cult", because it's minority religion/ beliefs. Lot of people who's not been to countries " hardly heard about in any western territory, unless it's about to get attack😅, still believes,and thriving, to keep older beliefs,tradition,culture etc.. alive. Russia,for example.anyone familiar with their religions?

[@jillybeenz8699]

I call it a cult because it fits the criteria. Brainwashing, new identity, no outside influence, social pressure, there are others too.

[@raydizon9669]

@@jillybeenz8699 all religion started as a cult

[@alcrow1458]

So none of you ex members have a problem with the child beating? Or the way they will target newcomers so that families are split up? What about having to give them all your savings and property with no guarantee of anything?

[@rustyh711]

I don't like the video zooming in and out doing weird things

[@jillybeenz8699]

Yes. Thanks 👍 I am working on making it less nauseating 😂

[@alvinware1988]

Yeah, I seen a lot of dudes that hold a bible and then try to talk yer ear off about unprovables. Laughable.

[@jillybeenz8699]

People can be pretty attimate about what they believe. There are sooooo many things/ways to believe in this life, kinda arrogant to think they know everything, but ya know.

[@larrycurtis2783]

Don't confuse with the Rastafarian 12 Tribes of Israel which is not a cult

[@waynemcauliffe2362]

Go atheism. Glad you escaped mate

[@jillybeenz8699]

I'm glad too! Thanks 😁

[@freeranger1677]

Atheism is just another cult religion. You've been brainwashed too.

[@platinumpete1980]

It sounds wonderful. It's sad your ego has taken over.

[@omarayyash3275]

they're not a cult, they're normal people who love God.

[@jillybeenz8699]

Well we are all programmed, Thiers is exceptional. very controlled.