Why I LEFT Werner Enterprises - The Top Ten Reasons

Here's why I left Werner Enterprises. I'll give you the top ten reasons for my decision to leave Werner Trucking after one year.
April 2022
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[@gerrylee4907]

i wonder if anybody at werner listened to the reasons he quit; he wasnt rude, he didnt curse out werner, he seems like a good employee to keep.

[@tmo.48]

His type (rare) is the kind you'd want to KEEP!!! GOOD employees are hard to come by. You know what they say about a fool and his money.......and Kevin was their money.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@tmo.48 Thank you so much for that compliment!! :-)

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you Gerry!!!

[@Mudge61]

They know. They hear it everyday

[@EFontanezX20]

After 6month with Werner, I left last week for the same reasons. Believe it or not I joined werner because of your videos. Keep it real bro 100%. Your videos are good. Keep it honest and stay safe out there.

[@Bendigo1]

$50k is ok for a single person with finances in order and no major payments. For anyone with a family or house and car payment it suck, especially for as much time spent away from home to make that much.

[@willmann30]

Yep. For trucking of this nature I'm thinking minimum $75k.

[@ABCDEFG-bk9gx]

@@willmann30 $100k should be the minimum.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

For how much you work and the sacrifices and danger we think it should be more!!! Our goal is to make 100K!!! We think it’s doable at Crete. We’ll see. 😃

[@coldfusion5153]

@@TheJoyofTrucking we meaningg go are you driving team?

[@ratherbeflying101]

50k is chump change, slave pay for what we do out here.

[@andrewkellerhals1361]

When I started 10 years ago, I was with US Xpress, getting paid 24 cents a mile with very little miles. I quit after 2 months solo and started with a Flatbed carrier that started me at 36 cents and within 6 mo I was at 41 cents and received tarp pay. I now own my truck and have been through a few driving experiences, after you get a year or two of experience under your belt, start looking at smaller companies. If you're interested in owning a truck one day or wanting a business, then look for a 1099 company and get a good accountant, you'll thank me later.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks!!!! Happy it worked out so well for you!!!!

[@nofxn40s]

They did the same shit to me. A little higher cents per mile.. But no miles

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@nofxn40s ☹️😣🙁

[@emerydavis.]

Werner sounds like an ass of a company. 😅 luckily I’m starting training there on the 4th of October lol

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@emerydavis. lol! Despite the negatives, we actually think that Werner is a very good company to start with. Decent pay for rookies and lots of training. The simulator blow-out experience was invaluable preparation for the time Kevin had a real blowout. That could have gone very badly. But he was prepared because of the simulator training and kept us (and others) safe. Also, some dedicated accounts pay quite well. So congratulations on starting with Werner soon! Welcome to trucking!! And thanks for watching our video.

[@deljacobs6982]

Thanks for the info! Good luck on your next adventure.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you!!!

[@paulstone4804]

Well presented and with style , can’t wait to see what company your working at now and how it goes .

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😃👍😃👍

[@tamariodumas6895]

Thanks for a great review! Like I said, no company is perfect. Can't wait to hear about your new company.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍😃👍

[@juansaldivar9831]

Great attitude and explanation! I will show this video to my students.

[@gerardofontanez2853]

Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope the trucking companies out there get the message. Good drivers like you should be well compensated and treated with respect.

[@jimb3541]

That was a very honest review. The good and the bad. No angry super trucker just documenting what you did not like and with examples. A level headed discussion. That is a great character trait. Very good. Time to move on to better things. Have a good day tomorrow and stay safe.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😃👍

[@Spencertech101]

I love how you’re so professional on explaining things

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you!!!!

[@dwife5246]

Thanks for the input. I work for Werner now and is on a dedicated account and have exp everything you have said here in your video. I am coming up on my one year and is looking for better

[@mikes9759]

Your a great guy Kevin! I've been watching you for awhile and have commented some. I had my own tractor way back. The way you explain things is outstanding. I wish I could find 10 guys like you, but that is very hard to do!! I would have a hell of a business going. I delt with places like you're talking about in this video. It's a big reason the countries in the shape it is!! Take care brother and keep rockin!!!!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you so much!!! Appreciate your kind words!!!

[@dsllsd5765]

I have been watching your videos since before you actually started with Werner when you were doing orientation. I am at almost a year with Werner now and everything that you said from number 1 to 10 I have had happened to me and I agree with 100%. I am very much considering leaving Werner as well but I’m going to give them one more chance on a different account than over the road. If it does not go well I am definitely going to move on. Thank you for your videos good luck at Crete

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you!!!! Thanks for being in this journey with us!!! Quite literally!!! Sorry we never met at a terminal. Hopefully down the road!!!

[@davidanderson-22]

Yet another great video, Kevin and Tonya. My philosophy and plan for getting into truck driving is to have the understanding that the first year be something of a polished turd with decent pay. Go into this with the first company as nothing more than the one that gets you the CDL and experience for the next company. As I explained on your previous video, I'm either going with Roehl or Swift to get my CDL and first year. Next, it's on to either Averitt or Dot Foods (DTI). And once I get close to another 18 months with that I'll be looking at Walmart where I'll probably stay until retirement. It's going to depend though with the second company because I really like what Averitt and Dot are offering. And Dot has those blue trucks!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Sounds like a great plan!!!! Best of luck!!! Let us know how your journey develops!!

[@Leonmiller407]

Great video. I think I only watched a video of yours months back about the Hotel El Capitan Van Horn, TX. Fast forward a few months, I’m watching your videos cause I’ve thought of coming to Crete. Your reasons of leaving Werner, I think are the same gripes I’ve had with several companies. Lack of communication, guessing my pay check, sitting and waiting on the unknown next load, constantly swapping loads for no good reasons. I’ve been driving for seven years and it has been an experience. I’m approved to come over to Crete, I’m just doing my due diligence.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Hey there!! Thanks for watching our Van Horn video and this one. Be sure to check our channel for more videos about Crete. We have orientation vlogs and several reviews already. We are very happy with Kevin having moved to Crete. He’s making much better money. More miles. Less stress. No splitting the load unless he were to requests it because of issues with delivery time. Let us know if you have questions nor answered in our videos. And if you do decide Crete is a good fit for you, please be so kind and use our referral code: SLOKEV. 😃

[@aarobbins99]

Your a good dude, the longer I watch this the madder I get. Can't believe you lasted a year. Hope the new company takes care of you.

[@jeffsdirt6348]

After watching your channel, I often wondered why you were going through some of the things you discussed but didnt want to ask about it because i didnt want to be "that guy". Excited to see your new adventures with the new company and rig. ✌

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you so much!!!

[@LouisKatz]

I've been at CR England for 13 months. Same experience. Thank for sharing yours. 👍 Be safe and good luck!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks! You too! And keep watching the videos. We'll let you know how it's going at Crete. 😀

[@rogersawyers4329]

Thank you I’m finishing trucking school next month and Werner just came by and talked to us and said all this nice fancy stuff. Iv been in Security for 10 years and those companies do the same day something and do the opposite and not taking care of their employees and mess up the pay thanks for the review

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks for watching. We will say that even with all these reasons we feel it was a good company to start. And some of the dedicated accounts pay well. Good luck on your journey!!

[@Man-of-war22]

Perfect advisor to drivers It's good that you're not trashing the company and getting your point being heard

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks!! :-))

[@Clipper707]

I worked for Werner back in the early 90s for a couple of years. My experience was mostly positive. They got me my CDL and I stayed way longer than the required commitment period. I think inter-departmental communication was better back then, but they were a little smaller back then. I feel what really makes the difference is your Fleet Manager. I had a great one while I was 48 state and she got me all the miles I wanted and got me home when I needed to be there. I got a lot of great cross country runs and splitting loads was something that just happened occasionally. When I switched to southeastern regional, things started to deteriorate and that was tied to the Fleet Manager as well. I was supposed to be home every weekend, but their version of a weekend was unloading Saturday at 2AM and your next load being an 11PM delivery on Sunday 300 miles away. I wish you well with your new company and thanks for the videos!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

You are absolutely right. The Fleet Manager has A LOT to do with it!! Thanks for watching. Hope you moved on to a good situation after your time with Werner. We are much happier at Crete. 😃

[@marlonizaguirre6625]

Hey Kevin that video is definitely what is happening in every big company am in the same boat 5 months but my God is giving me the strength and patient i think you a real person,smart cause to start anywhere is good but build that experience like you did not many does it one ☝️ year is not easy i got much respect to you (no a crybaby those who cry and whine they still suck the bottle for years) and like it the way you take it in a very positive performance you are a trough soldier. Good luck on your new job be waiting for it cause i learning from every video i watch.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you Marlon!!! Appreciate your kind words!!! What company are you with? Hang in there. With 6-12 months you’ll have mor options!!! 🙏😃💕 Happy that you are able to learn from our videos!!! Plus we hope to make you laugh too!

[@john38654]

I have been watching from the beginning. Glad to see you make a change for the better.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you!!! And thanks for traveling with us since the start!!! Good to have you along with us!

[@dreaforshort]

This is such a good honest review! While I am in the beginning stages going towards getting my CDL, I’m keeping options open. So I truly appreciate it.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks! Check our old videos and playlists. You’ll find lots of info on Werner. Despite the issues we still think it was a good place to start. Good luck on your journey!!! Let us know how it goes!!

[@dreaforshort]

@@TheJoyofTrucking will do, thank you!

[@nevaehmorgan4030]

Keep us updated. Thanks

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😃👍😃

[@MarkOPolo456]

Good review about some of the negative things new drivers have to put up with when working for the mega carriers, not just Werner.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍

[@penarri]

you really hit the nail on the head with split loads.. it’s crazy to get a 16 mile load with no preassigned load afterwards gets you a little ticked off

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍👍👍yup!!!

[@MrPoncho1965]

Sounds like you did it right. Learned the ropes, gave them a solid year👍

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks!!!

[@MGTOW_GHOST]

I have been driving for Werner for 2 years now. I agree with everything you said to include having to drive all over the place looking for an empty trailers. It sucks that we can’t just pick up a load without one but I understand that they want to have trailers available at the shippers. I just got called for a Tractor Supply dedicated account. Should be staring next week once I am done taking my 6 days of hometime saved.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks for your comment. Yes. A lot of frustrations! Hopeful this new account will do well for you!! Thanks for watching!

[@taviasgrannieable]

Shared your channel with my hubby. He enjoys it. He's been a OTR driver for 32yrs. Recently, within the past 1 1/2yrs he moved to a refrigerator company. It's been hard adjusting. He did have a lot of problems with pay and miles with prior company. Now we don't have problems we make great $ he's out 2 mo in 10dys. He has a 7yr plan for retirement. He is guaranteed 2500 a week. Hope your other company treats you better.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow! Sounds like he found a good situation!!! Happy for him!!! Though yes, probably a big adjustment for both of you!! Thanks for sending him our channel. Hope he enjoys our OTR travel videos. 😃

[@chadcameron4080]

This was one of the most sensible/practical reviews of a trucking company I've seen on KZbin. Appreciate the information and good luck in your future endeavors. Stay safe.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you so much!!!

[@jeepcj7909]

I knew you be good driver from first video your technical hood common scenes also you have good personality for videos good luck new venture

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you do much!!!

[@rickyhawkins7407]

You give the most eloquent presentations I have heard in a long time. Not from just a truck driver, but overall. If more drivers pointed to facts as you just did, and not just complain about money. But explain how drivers are being abused and used by these carriers, maybe, just maybe some of these big companies would change their ways. I had similar issues with the mega carriers I drove for, including that company. My major issue was not so much the money, but the lack of communication. The lack of respect from the company. And the attitude by the Orientation people at the Georgia facility who acted as if they were doing you a favor by hiring you. Treat all of your employees with respect, productivity will increase and turnover will decrease. Good luck to you on your next position.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@ginaguarino3163]

You do give a beautiful presentation. Your telling the truth and that’s important. It’s sad that for such a large company, drivers aren’t treated better. I just graduated and got my CDL a week ago. I went for an interview yesterday with a local company and I think I got it. I will find out in a day. I’m will to drive with someone for a week or 2 to feel comfortable. I just really don’t want to do OTR until I’m in my comfort zone. Yours is the first good review on Werner. The nightmare stories about the trainers are what deterred me. Like you said I don’t want to bounce around my first year or 2. Thank you again and best of luck to you!

[@royr5527]

Wow everything you said sounds identical to the reasons why I left my old company. You will find something good 👍

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😃😃😃👍🥰

[@markonastov8918]

You are a great employee and your new company will be lucky to have you. Best of luck to you!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you sooooo much!!! Very kind!

[@renelioeanjie1485]

Guys can't thank you enough for basically making a road map for succes in trucking. Enjoy the content and production quality. Be safe

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you so much!!! We are happy to share what we learn!!!

[@rossstevens6165]

Nice video. The one thing that I can relate with the most, is having to chase your pay. Drivers, if you drive for someone that you have to chase your pay, find another carrier. Life is too short to chase your pay. There are more important things to pay attention to than chasing your pay.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

We agree!!! It should be reliable and not require chasing!!

[@SuperCholo27]

Hey Kevin sorry werner lost a great driver and person, I currently work for them but plan on quitting this week because of all those reasons, good luck in the new company!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Hey there! Yes it’s unfortunate that these issues contribute to the high turn over rate. Where did you decide to go?

[@SuperCholo27]

@@TheJoyofTrucking i went to JB Hunt for now, just wanna get my experience in so i can go to Walmart! How is the new company treating you? Saw the video on the new truck, nice!

[@treyfeeley2519]

Werner DID lose a great driver! I worked for Werner and was there for about the same length of time Kevin was. I Left before Kevin for a local Ltl job. I loved Werner!! It was a great experience! I left because, there is too much money to be made driving local and be home every night!

[@jaykisuke3397]

@@treyfeeley2519 facts

[@ginaguarino3163]

@@SuperCholo27i really would like to be with Walmart as well. The one thing I don’t understand is why Walmart wouldn’t want to train people out of school before they get bad habits. But I have no problem putting in my time and then applying.

[@timothybarry1345]

Hey Kevin, good job with clearly and concisely delineating the ten reasons you left Werner! You would have been a good lawyer.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Lol! Thanks Tim!!! Nice to ‘see’ you here!!!

[@theanalyst650]

Everything stated in this video is true. Also, you now need appointments for maintenance, even for a team. Was told a day and a half wait to get in for maintenance. Of course every terminal has different wait times. Well done video, thank you for sharing your experience.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Sorry to hear that instead of things improving they seem to be getting worse. We heard they no longer allow PC. That’s terrible!!! Kevin is much happier now that he’s at Crete. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@justinbarnes5498]

Thanks Kevin for sharing your experiences and articulating the details. I really have a difficult time with number six, it would seem that with such a large company heavily laden with advanced technology throughout their information systems platform. You should have pre-planned loads already booked to you before you ever unload your current load. I am also with you regarding the split loads where they take a good run from you and split it with another driver or team. As you said, you are away from your home for extended periods for a reason, which is to maximize your miles paid. I really think the best opportunity out there is with companies such as NFI industries. They simply drive day cabs in a small geographic location for one or two clients, our home each day, and are very aware of their work schedule in advance. They have lots of opportunities across the country, and many of their drivers earn between 70 and 90,000 per year! If I were ever to move into a large class 8 semi, I would pursue that route.

[@nobull4414]

Speaking of NFI, distribution is a really hard life. If you're young and just out of the military you may make it two or three years. If you wanna get the real money, go to Sysco. Sysco starts at 100 grand and they have phenomenal benefits, but your body will pay the price.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you!!! Appreciate your thoughts!!

[@jacobnash9755]

That's a stretch... having loads booked when you can't tell for sure if you are going to be available to make good on the appointments? That's risky business.

[@georgecook1374]

the milage pay and down time waiting around is why i always say this indusrty needs to go to hourly pay so drivers don't get screwed waiting for the next load or to be loaded /unloaded plus breakdowns and such. my .02

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍👍👍👍👍😃

[@johnwhiteford4624]

Excellent information to take on board, appreciated👌👍

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!!! Best of luck!

[@TrippNPhotos]

Great video and I totally agree with all your points. I especially agree with the zip code to zip code pay. First I heard of that I figured it was a good thing for the company and NOT the driver who is the one making the money for the company. Anything corporate America can do to screw over the employee.

[@gilmac111]

Back in 2019 I finished CDL school went straight to Werner for 5 months , got out and lease a truck with a small Company, one year after that I bought a truck. You are not typical, you got potential. good luck.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Good for you!!!! Awesome!!! Hope with the present challenges you continue to do well!!! Thanks for watching and your encouraging words!!

[@timmaydatrucka928]

Everything he is describing is EXACTLY what I experienced with Werner when I first started driving. I was with them my first year starting with the Family Dollar/Dollar Tree account for the first 6 months, then Western 11 for the next. He hit the nail right on the head. I have found that major carries will do this. The smaller companies are the best ones to work for. They are the ones that actually listen and do everything possible to keep us drivers comfortable.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Hello fellow ex-Werner driver. Yes..we are hearing this a lot from viewers, that they had the same experience with Werner. Glad you found a better situation with a smaller carrier. Kevin just completed his first year with Crete Carrier and we are very happy with them. There will be a review video soon. Thanks for watching! Stay safe! Have fun!

[@timmaydatrucka928]

I will say that after watching your videos, I may consider coming to work for Crete if things go south where I am now. At the moment, I have not had anything negative to say about my company. We did however have a company wide pay reduction due to low freight costs, supply and demand. If it does come down to the wire where I have to make a change, Crete will be my first choice.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@timmaydatrucka928 Wow! A pay reduction?!?! 😳 That’s tough. Sorry to hear it. Let’s hope it improves again. If you have questions about Crete please let us know.

[@timmaydatrucka928]

I will, most definitely

[@bighennybihh8532]

Been on the dollar tree account for 9 months now. That I hit over a year I’m going tankers

[@truckinwiththegunny]

Feeling exactly what you are talking about. Only I have about 7 months to go to my year.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

You can do it!!! But there are other options even before getting 12 months. Just do your research and see what’s best for you. We just found out you can come to Crete at 6 months with a trainer or 8 months from certain companies. A lot of viewers also recommend smaller companies. Truckers are in hot demand. Be sure but to ‘settle’. Thanks for watching our channel!!!

[@joshuabrown1314]

Kevin, you went through the EXACT same situations with Werner as I did with PAM! Communication was really frustrating, pay even more frustrating..

[@jaredf3844]

Werner is a great starter company for new drivers for your first year or two. If you are just starting out I really can't think of anything bad about Werner especially when it comes to their trucks and terminals which are in good shape compared to most. However if you are a good driver and want to work more than the bare minimum there are a lot of other companies that pay more and give you better loads. Mega carriers have a massive amount of overhead to pay for so they take .20 cents per mile off of drivers pay. These are great videos for new prospective drivers looking to get into the industry!

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you Jared!!! We agree! No regrets about starting with Werner. And some people get on good dedicated accounts. For us it was time to move on…with gratitude.

[@joemac3118]

My dad ran in the flatbed division of Werner for a few years in the early nineties and made a ton of miles. The reason he quit was because they didn't let their drivers have any home time until six weeks out. He got burned out really quick with them.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow!! Kudos to your dad!!! Six weeks out is really hard!!! And just not necessary!!! Especially with family at home!! Hope he found something that suited him better!!!

[@EpicLevelTube2]

Very well done video! I’m waiting for my trainer to get me to do my 3 weeks on the road. I’m doing teams OTR and I better be making at least 1200-1500 per week at minimum for it to be worth it. I’ll keep this video in mind once I finish training tho.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Hey there…sorry for slow reply…are you finished with training? Hope it went well!!! Let us know how you’re doing!!!

[@savannahganetworking2680]

How is it going

[@EpicLevelTube2]

@@TheJoyofTrucking I finally finished training and I will start on my own for a couple weeks before going with a partner. The person I’m teaming with said that he was making $1400 a week so hopefully that continues once I’m with him. I’m vloging everything on my personal channel Misa Hidalgo if anyone is interested in more details :)

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@EpicLevelTube2 Congratulations!!!!!🎉🎊🎈 We are very happy for you! Thanks for sharing the news on our channel! We wish you all the best both driving and with your videos!!!

[@mache3984]

Basically the same b.s for all of these mega carriers. I just left dart. I dealt with the exact same pay issue with them. My first week out my truck sat in the shop for 8 days. Be well and best wishes to you out on the road.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😳😳😳 Who do you drive for now?

[@abathens]

Great rants in this video. Way to go Kevin🔥

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😁😁😁

[@allenleavell2847]

I definitely know what you mean with the Amazon thing. That's why I decided to get my CDL back and ditch Amazon... Congratulations and good luck on the new job

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks! Good luck to you!! See you out here!

[@thedale2112]

I remeber when we met in Fontana I expressed some discouragement about miles just from watching your videos and comparing it to other channels that I subscribe to. Most of the reasons Brother Kevin mentioned were noticable through the lense of your channel. I won't be going to Werner for all of those reasons. So, congratulations on your new venture!! I'm happy for y'all...

[@jimb3541]

Very good points and glad you used Kevin's info to go in another direction.

[@thedale2112]

@@jimb3541 Indeed...

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍🥰

[@michaelgaouette5165]

Love it Kev I feel the same way on most of what you say I love watching your tapes can't wait to see who you went to schneider pays more fyi TTYL

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍😃👍😃

[@bostarbird5282]

I was 3 days away from turning in my truck before anyone called me. Gave me the song and dance how valuable I was to the company. Why are you leaving blah blah blah. Werner was a good company to drive for but like every other company they have their issues. They would split loads after a few hundred miles and blame it on Net Ops. Never figured out who they were. I got fed up with it and one day I just kept driving and driving. Finally my fleet mgr called me and ask why I didn't drop the load. Just told him I didn't see the split lol. ( little white lie, ok maybe a big one) I was just fed up with short runs. The one thing I did like about being OTR was I got a lot of drop and hooks. The equipment was ok but seams like the brand new school drivers got the new trucks. I came with a lot of experience but in the last 12 years I was local hauling heavy equipment and my wife wanted to go to school and learn to drive. Well turns out she was scared to death of mountains. And she really only saw the east coast mountains, not the big rocky mountains. She would have died. Lol. Can't wait to see where you guys end up. Hopefully it a team driving operation.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow!! Thanks for sharing your experience!!! Your wife might have preferred a flat mid-western regional. 😃👍😆 Nope…still no team driving for us. Who would make the videos and chat with our dear subscribers?? 😉

[@abdiwelihassan]

Kevin you made a excellent decision . I'm new driver just come out school and I went Werner because you review. I'm currently with a trainer. It's sad to see you treated that way.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

We hope you have a great experience. We still think it’s a good company to start with. And some dedicated accounts are good. We wish you all the best!!! Let us know how it goes!!!

[@coldfusion5153]

How is it now?? How’s the training are Werner Sibi make good money ??

[@erwinbrubacker7488]

Nice presentation, drvr. 👍

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you!!!

[@waynemangan9925]

I'm forty and considering becoming a truckdriver. Your vid is very helpful for someone new to the industry. I'd sure hate for my employer to communicate as badly to me on the road as your average rental car desk, add to that constant pay time inquiries.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Be sure to check out some of our older videos and why despite the reasons Kevin quit Werner he still thinks it was a good place to get experience!! Good luck on your journey!!!

[@patriciafolsom4828]

Everything you said, I can vouch for. My husband works for Werner and all the issues you mentioned, he has had. He's been with them 6 months and is looking to find a better company. He's very unhappy with Werner. They definitely don't treat their drivers right.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks for watching!! We totally understand. There are lots of options out there for him!!! Even at 6 months. We are very happy with our decision to move to Crete. It’s not perfect, as it is still trucking. 🤣😁🤣😃😆😂 But some issues are less and the miles and money are much better. Be sure to watch some of our recent videos. 😃

[@driftingwithjayandk8717]

I hope you are enjoying your time at Crete as your new company!

[@Sebastian81012]

How you know he’s at Crete when he never mentioned where he went??

[@driftingwithjayandk8717]

@@Sebastian81012 I don't know 100% but in 1 of his recent videos, he received a call while recording and the caller ID said "Crete Corporation" so I knew he was looking for another job. Whether he chose crete or not, I don't know but thats my reasoning for believing its crete.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow!!! Gotta be careful what I film!! Lol!!! And how fun…in the meantime you’ve met in person!!!

[@percivale6511]

CRST does the same thing with Pay!!!! Everything you said about chasing the pay was what I dealt with at that company as well, if they don't pay you on time, they should make good on it right then when it's brought up, not put it on the next check.....

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Yrs!!! Sorry you had to deal with the same crap!

[@johnmartin2037]

Hello Kevin, You look like Clint Eastwood a little bit. I've enjoyed listening to your one your journey. Thanks for keeping it honest. Good luck with your next Company.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Lol!!!! That’s a BIG compliment!!!!! Thank you!!!

[@tommyk9844]

I worked at Werner in 2003. The last week I worked for these people I made a delivery from Atlanta to Chicago. Turned in the paperwork in the transflo envelope and dropped in the mail bin at the truckstop. Thats how this was done back then. Then later in week I had to get approval for a lumper. Sent in the appropriate messages over qualcomm and get authorization number and issue check. Well a week later I get my pay statement and low and behold no pay for Chicago load, and they deducted the $250 lumper fee from my pay. In total this was around $700 and in 2003 that was a good bit of money. They claimed they never got the paperwork for my load to Chicago and said the driver manager didnt approve the lumper lol.....To this day I've never received a dime of that money. I have been a cdl driver since 1998 and own my own equipment now and in 24 years I have never seen a more shitty company.

[@williamzander4732]

How are you going to sue your a thousand miles from home and flatass broke in a company that’s fire drivers to let somebody else have your truck . Nobody retired from WERNER except the family members . All companies cheat and rob drivers . No laws to stop it .

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Wow! That sounds very crappy!!! Sorry they did you like that! Does not leave a good taste in your mouth. But…you moved along to becoming an o/o!!! And that’s awesome!!! Happy to hear you’ve had a good career so far!!! Thanks for riding with us. Bringing so much hard earned knowledge to our little community. :-))))

[@williamzander4732]

@@TheJoyofTrucking Nobody retires from Werner unless you related to the family and a bus ticket to orientation means your not related. They want you for 2 years then get out of here . There is no retirement in trucking that’s how corporations make billion no retirement or sick leave a million accidents won’t change them . They prey on the weak you saw that at orientation. Your there employee till they want you gone . Did they even pay for breakdown were you worth it to them .

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

@@williamzander4732 Yes. They do pay breakdown. Big big enough. And they do have some good accounts and drivers who stay bent years. But for our goals it was no longer a good fit.

[@patriciafolsom4828]

@@TheJoyofTrucking my husband's truck was down for about 4 days and all he got was $75 a day for breakdown pay with Werner.. Pretty crappy if you ask me. Especially since it's THEIR truck that broke down. 😒

[@toddharris3716]

Kevin, 100% agree with everything you said here. The other thing I’ve noticed about Werner is they don’t care to fix or make things right while working there, but boy oh boy when you say your leaving and actually leave all the sudden you get 20 phone calls about how can we make this right, what can we do to get you to stay, ect…. I said well if you took the time to do this beforehand I’d have consider staying, it’s a little late now.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Well said!!!

[@patriciafolsom4828]

You are so right Todd. Werner did that when my husband told them he was leaving. "What can we do to make you stay?" Too little, too late.

[@mikedokter]

Started in 2017 and new drivers pay was about 39-42 cpm at most companies. Be safe and have fun and the cpms will come up. If you are OTR look at companies that value your home time, there is so much more then just pounding miles. Look into Aquatic if you want to go regional and make decent money. 👌

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you so much!!!

[@samael9676]

TJT Thanks for the info. I was a pre-hire, I'll leave the reason out why nothing happened it's corrected but anyways this was very informative, and I will not bad mouth them they are a good company. again thanks

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍👍👍

[@hillbillytruck]

I'm at JB Hunt. And they pay good compared to werner when I compared the companies coming out of school

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😃👍😃👍

[@HumbleHurricane]

Im a super new driver that will be starting my career with Werner in about a month or so. Im doing tons of research and I truly appreciate this so much. Thank you.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Congratulations!!!! Be sure to soak up all the learning you can. Do a blowout on the simulator. Avail yourself of their educational resources! Hope it goes well. We have LOTS of videos on the channel to help you at Werner and starting out. Check out the older videos and Werner playlists! Good luck!!!

[@a87nomsirrah35]

R u still with Werner?

[@boogalookid9562]

AMEN! thank you for this

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍👍👍

[@simmonsfamilyvideo]

Hi Kevin, current Werner driver here. You and I are about the same age and experience levels. I had a TERRIBLE start, trainer sucked, trucks broke down, terrible miles, etc. I've worked with my FM and finally got settled into what I think is a pretty good account. Werner is a good company but there are lots of issues as you've identified. I'm also committed to doing a year and then evaluating. I appreciate your perspective and wish you the best.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks for watching and commenting!! Sorry you had such a tough start with Werner! But glad you stuck it out and saw improvement!! We agree that they are a solid company and don't regret our decision for Kevin to start with Werner. Glad to have you along with us. Hopefully our videos will give you good insights into Crete so you can consider them in the future to see if it would be a good fit for your priorities. Kevin says, "Hey...Good to hear from another 'wisened' new trucker!!" :-)))

[@LAPiggyLover]

You are spot on!! Everything you said is true. The sad thing is Werner just doesn’t care.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

☹️☹️☹️

[@ozarkweathernerd]

If you wanted a load, but they took their time, its frustrating. But if you wanted to take a few hours for yourself, they were shoving it up your nose and deep. I liked to have a sense of some control. Took a while to teach our fleet manager thats how we wanted to roll.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😁😁😁😃😃😃👍😆

[@mucialmichaud8020]

I quit too, but it's a good company to work for. I'm surprised you quit though, thought you were gonna be there for longer. Most of my weeks I drive 3000 miles but because the pay is so low most drivers quit them. I like the company but I got tired with the pay. The zip code pay is crazy

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Lol…surprise!!!! 😁😆🤣😂🤪😃 Better options out there at this point. We like blue. But we aren’t looking to shortchange ourselves!

[@johnhamilton2680]

Great stuff 😊.wish you the best.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thank you!!!

[@thomsmith6987]

Why did you have to turn in your truck just to change home terminals?? I’m switching from Dallas, TX to Lake City, FL and I’m keeping the truck I’ve been in for the last 7 months.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Good question! We think it’s because Kevin wanted 2 weeks and they insisted he take a leave of absence. That’s probably why they took Kenny away from him. We wish you a good transition!

[@penarri]

the truck speed, the pre-assigned loads, the lack of miles definitely pushes a driver away. some things you mentioned in this video im currently going through this. its worse when they give you a load after 4 o’clock and you already burned your 14 hr clock waiting on a load

[@aitransportservicesllc584]

How fast you wanna go? I don’t work for Werner but I can see they run about 68-69 mph that’s decent

[@penarri]

@@aitransportservicesllc584 70-72 and the only reason i say faster because you get those people who constantly go under the speed limit then speed up rinse and repeat, and slowing down isn’t always the safest thing so please dont preach that to me. also the slow passing of other trucks and cars. i dont need an open truck but a least a smart pass or a bump of 2mph

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Yes…lots of issues!! Appreciate you watching and commenting!!! Good luck!!!

[@VchaosTheoryV]

Smith Transportation out of Roaring Spring, PA is a good company IMO. Im getting 2 pre-plans back to back at the end of every delivery practically and it's a bit overwhelming. Not a bad thing.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks!!! And happy for you!!! At least your not sitting around waiting and getting frustrated because the wheels aren’t turning. 😃

[@pens4stanley66]

They accept new CDL grads? I’m in Pittsburgh

[@christopherstone8064]

I’m starting with Werner today I just moved to Florida. And I needed a job fast. I have 6 years experience so I’m having a bad feeling about taking this job. I’m on the Home Depot account. I feel like I’m going backwards taking this job but I’ll have to deal with this for now. Thanks for this video.

[@ginaguarino3163]

From what I’ve heard and I’m in NJ the Home Depot again is a nice one. Best of luck to you!

[@treyfeeley2519]

What you said is true, I wanted to stick it out for a year for personal pride. I have since got all my endorsements. This will make you MUCH more marketable. Since I got them and put my resume out there, phone is ringing off the hook! I knew I got shorted on pay and yes, payroll couldn't explain why. I asked my FM for it and he always came through. All companies will find a way to mess with pay. You have had great training on this at Werner.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍😃👍

[@coldfusion5153]

Is that tanker and hazmat??

[@treyfeeley2519]

@@coldfusion5153 Yes it is! Doubles and triples too!

[@gruppenfuhrer45]

As a possible future driver, how do I choose the right company? Bc obviously they aren’t gonna tell you the truth? What I’m getting from these you tube reviews on company’s, none of them sound very promising. No wonder there is a shortage of drivers. You’re very kind and professional sir.

[@cabilgibbs]

Youre so smart and professional the a-holes prob dont like it.. Thanks for your Posts!!!

[@h.hernandez5356]

Kevin you are 100% true. I spent 5 and a half years with Werner and went through all of that, you went through; with the exception of switching Terminals. Werner is a great training company; but know that if you join them, that is what you should expect. Unless they do "an about face" and change and fix all the issues that Kevin mentioned.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Yes. We are very glad Kevin started with them. But then it was time to move on. Now he’s making 50% more money with less stress. 😃

[@TheBigBlackElephant]

@@TheJoyofTrucking yaaaaaaaay!

[@jacobnash9755]

No "great training company" writes up 100% fake accident/damage reports against workers for giving 2 weeks notice... but Werner does.

[@nobull4414]

You are spot on, #1, money. #2, miles.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍😃👍

[@toddharris3716]

Also I will say that I had a account that had a guaranteed weekly amount regardless of miles driven, as long as you were available to drive. And then a certain pay over 2700 miles, This did make the shorter runs, live unloads and waiting at shippers less a issue. However my fleet manager and load planners were not good communications people or personable for that matter and made those sides of things more difficult.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍Yup!!

[@MrAvens2s]

I agree with everything you’re saying. I work with W.E in the dollar tree account and it really sucks but one more month and I’ll be moving forward with another company.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Good for you!!! Get the experience and advance your career!!! Kevin is doing very well at Crete and is grateful he made a change. What company are you switching to?

[@muko2002]

Damn that’s crazy. As soon I got off school I started at .52c a mile doing flatbed. Which I think it’s good for no experience at all. I do an average of 2700-3400 depending on how you move and all that . At 1 year or 125k miles with the company you get .60c a mile plus .14c per diem base on the miles you did. I’m only doing this for a few years and find something to be local like tankers. Empty miles are paid the same as well.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

YOU hit the JACKPOT!!!!! Happy for you!!!! Which company?

[@muko2002]

@@lonewolftrucker3955 yessir

[@muko2002]

@@lonewolftrucker3955 oh shit ! Really? I’m trying to remember!!!

[@muko2002]

@@lonewolftrucker3955 im trying to remember. Cause at Greenspan from Texas I was heading to Atlanta . I know at I have picked up in Winchester VA.

[@davidrains9899]

If you have hazmat then I recommend hauling propane/ butane gas it pays good, i was making 950$ a week 05-08, and you are home alot

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Thanks!!!

[@coldfusion5153]

950. Week for working from 5am to 8’pm??

[@ionrazvan126]

Thank you, I will never try them. It s enough to be tired after driving, I don t want to get tired and stressed for extra like finding empty trailer, getting paid, getting home and all kind stuff that is not supposed to happen

[@georgewalker1508]

Congratulations brother! Yeah, you deserve better! 😊

[@jondoe1123]

I'm about to start us express carrier in las Vagas, .70 cpm

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

That’s awesome!! Congratulations!!

[@deborae3635]

Literally everything you said is 1000 percent true im missing 700 miles from one check im behind you

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

😳😳😳

[@susanbelida6981]

No problems like what u went thru Kevin in the nineties and up to the first of 2000. But hubby got tired of it and started his own successful biz. There was rarely a split load. He went to Haz Mat and it was constant. He got to drop close to home in NH. It just got too hectic as he was on the busiest board with dispatch. Pay was good but not much home time. Met Gary Werner at the Nebraska terminal. He was always nice of course. I think we had driver meetings there and trainings on updates etc. Werner used to fly him around at one time to pick up trucks that drivers just left or died in. He would drop his truck and he would go for the truck. They told him to get cleaner lysol newspapers and gloves masks which was paid for turning in receipts. Haz Mat came and we said no more.

[@leroycramer6286]

Being held over at a shipper is called detention pay it starts usually after two hours anything over 12 hours is layover pay

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Yup...That's how it should be...Actually detention should start immediately in our opinion. :-)))

[@kirktitgen7453]

Nice job Kevin ...im glad you left Werner ...you deserve better...looking forward to new adventures and hopefully a shiny new truck 🤣🤣☝️👊💪👍

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

👍😃😃😃

[@mache3984]

It's very difficult and stressful to try and chase your pay out on the road while you're dealing with everything else we have to put up with.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Yes! Too much can fall through the cracks if you don’t keep it written down and keep following up until you can check it off. It’s money earned and shouldn’t require chasing.

[@RaspingPompano2]

I read the description of your channel and wanted to ask why did you sell your business in the Caribbean and what was your business?

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Awwwwww…thanks for reading it!!! I think a lot of viewers never do. We had a landscaping business and property management business for 11 years. And I (Tanja) also was an educator, therapist, yoga instructor, and artist. After 20 years in STX we were ready for a change. Thanks for asking! 😃

[@samr5075]

Just started watching your channel. So I apologize if you have a previous video on this. But as someone who started trucking at 18 and still does it, 10 years later. Get your endorsements. Even if you don't end up using them they will open up a crap load more doors for you.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Welcome to the channel!!! Not sure if we did a specific video, but, yes, we tell people to get them immediately, when getting their CDL. More opportunities and hard to go back to get them once in the road. And even dry Van Kevin has had loads that required tanker and hazmat endorsements. So good advice!! Thank you!!! And congratulations on a strong career so early in life!!!!

[@NINERCALIBOY]

I just left Werner aswell and can vouch for everything you said! I thought werner was a good company until I got to my new company that actually shows that they care about their drivers.

[@TheJoyofTrucking]

Happy you found another company that works well for you!!!! And thanks fir watching our channel!! Who do you drive for now?

[@coldfusion5153]

What company is that ??