Why I Lost My Faith in Mormonism - Carah Burrell (TikTok's "Nuancehoe")

[@robertb.4202]

I remember the “I’m a Mormon” campaign. Even though I am not a Mormon, I am also baffled by the church’s decision to renounce the Mormon name. It makes no sense.

[@jinkazama5720]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints This did not change Am A Mormon Campaign is like that a campaign that Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, commonly known or addressed to by nonmembers are/were good people in the words of Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley Mormon means More Good Now Lets be Biblical Christian/s is mentioned in the Holy Bible ONLY in The New Testament and for 3 VERSES ONLY, while the Word SAINTS is mentioned throughout the Holy Bible in both Old Testament and in New Testament for more than 30× perhaps almost a hundred times Now in 3verses that mentions the word Christian in The New Testament 2verses were mentioned by nonbelievers 1st by those who ridicule the believers of Christ 2nd with respect and fairness by king Agrippa And the last one 3rd as acknowledge by Chief Apostle Peter that he equates with suffering in Christ Yet when it comes to Salvation, to those believer of Christ who had covenanted with God, they the Apostles addressed them as SAINTS That was their situation in The Church of Jesus Christ in Ancient Times The Same Thing is happening in our days in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints 1st the Unbelievers called us "Mormon/s" in a derogatory manner 2nd The Journalist, influencers, Govt. Officials and the likes addressed as fairly and called as Mormon/s as well ... Like what King Agrippa did to Saint Paul 3rd Church Leaders adapted the word, for easier recognition, like what Chief Apostle Peter did in his time in The Church of Jesus Christ

[@crystaledwards9878]

@@jinkazama5720 saints, you ain’t

[@johnsax1445]

It’s called REBRANDING.

[@jinkazama5720]

@@Tartarsauce84 Am so Sorry i dont understand what you mean .... Am A Filipino here in Philippines

[@savannahsmiles1797]

@@jinkazama5720 But if you knew church history not Mormon history, meaning Hebraic history, you would UNDERSTAND that name for Yeshua wasn't THE name Jehovah declared. It was an adaptation coming about from the Roman Catholic Church...not at all representing Messiah. Messiah was in fulfillment of Jehovah's covenant with HIS chosen people. Rome ripped OFF the concept of Messiah, changing it to "Christo", deified Mary to saint (idol) status to unify the empire under a State created religion. So really the proFIT stole a Latinism to rebrand the Mormon church. Which is hilarious. If lil Joe had a clue on the origins of the Roman Catholic Church, there is NO ever loving way he would have basically built his new cult from a pagan interpretation and claim it was the Latter Day "saints". Saints in terms of Roman Catechism, were folks achieving a higher spiritual status, designated by the papal system. The Pope isn't mentioned at ALL in holy scriptures, and neither is the Vatican, or most of what the Roman created as Christianity and that is what brought about the reformation. That is NOT at all in keeping with anything found in the Old Testament. NO saints, NO pope, and the caution NOT to add to the New Testament as it was/is the fulfillment of the covenant ONCE and for all. capiche? Saints before the RCC were IDOLS, that most of the Roman Empire worshipped and prayed to as their gods prior to the State created religion and formation of the empire. Lil Joe created another testament of the Latter Day "idols" -which originated in the pagan traditions. Are you seeing the disconnect and departure from Biblical traditions? Angels represented Jehovah, demons promoted false gods. Meaning angels wouldn't have promoted IDOLS, as they were deemed an abomination to the Hebrew people as they represented FALSE gods, and forbidden by Jehovah to worship. I contend Lil Joe needed a few lessons from the rabbi's as he missed the mark entirely. The Latter day proFITS might benefit as well, cuz they evidently don't get it either.

[@ourgreenadventures1568]

Wow! I actually had a similar experience as your husband. I hated how other members talked about the LGBTQIA community with disgust and shame people with this "sin". It made me very uncomfortable. It just got worse the more people I met within that community and realizing other people are not bad people just because they believe or choose different paths! We left the church about five years ago. I am just now doing more research and trying to rewire my brain. When we left it was mainly because how awful the members made us feel and how we couldn't really disagree with authorities. I hated the no grey areas too! Thank you for sharing your stories!

[@andrewj.lacayo6256]

Same gender attraction is not a sin. The LDS church never said it was. Same gender romantic relationship is a sin, especially Same gender sex. That's not unique to the LDS church.

[@BebbaDubbs]

@@andrewj.lacayo6256 you are just the grossest kind of people.

[@AmbyJeans]

@@andrewj.lacayo6256 no it’s not unique to the LDS church, but it’s one of the reasons why people are turning away from organized religion. Too intolerant

[@countryboyred]

You honestly can’t say LGBTQIA with a straight face..

[@michaelparks5669]

JEHOVAH/ JESUS , PAUL MOSES ETC. CONDEMNED HOMOSEXUALITY. YEA REWIRE YOUR BRAIN AGAINST THE LAWS OF GOD AND SEE WHERE YOU GO.

[@h.r.9563]

These 10 minute videos are great

[@marthell6159]

It’s wonderful to see people breaking free from cults.

[@jestes7]

Religion and lies in general. I agree.

[@ZulcanPrime]

When I went to a Catholic Boys school nobody batted an eyelid yet when I joined the Mormon church most of my friends said I was crazy. I am an ex-Mormon but I still believe in the Almighty God and I follow the teachings of Lord Jesus Christ. I have friends who choose to be atheists or subscribe to agnosticism.

[@miguelthealpaca8971]

Yeah, I had a big problem with that whole thing about no being allowed to use the name Mormon and everyone just went along with it. I was a missionary when the "I Am A Mormon" campaign came out. We spent a couple of Friday mornings working on our profiles and reading and watching other people's profiles. Our district leaders and zone leaders etc had a meeting where they were told that the church sent two brethren over to watch the BOM musical and then return and report - and the report was horrifying! The church had to do something! So they spent millions on this whole "I Am A Mormon" campaign.

[@susannebyrd4019]

A billboard at times square?! I was a kid when the campaign ran so I had no idea the extent of it or how much money they spent on it. Crazy

[@rwheeler4156]

I remember thinking as a member when that was announced that it was definitely his own thoughts on being called a "Mormon" and not from God. Just one more thing that caused my shelf to break. I still used it as a member and definitely use as an ex-member and athiest.

[@johnlee1352]

...your "shelf" was a fraud from the beginning...you had no testimony...ever. Own it and stop claiming otherwise.

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

98% of the money, time and effort that goes into any religion, is to keep that religion going, NOT to do any good in the world. People think the U.S. Government is full of red tape? kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3-xiZKOntp0bZo

[@mylesmarkson1686]

@@johnlee1352 Stop trying to think for everyone. You have no idea what R-Wheeler has been through. It's no wonder you love this cult--You can't get enough of the brainwashing. I don't know why God hasn't called you to be the next Prophet yet.

[@Lucifersfursona]

I found nuancehoe through zelph on the shelf, good to see more from her :) great work Edit: “the jig is up” after a puzzle metaphor is a powerful pun

[@tienmou68]

Well, she's got her screen name right, that's for sure. What a caustic miserable human being. Sad for her.

[@iloveprivacy8167]

@@tienmou68 She seems pretty happy to me - can't say the same for you, though.

[@utah133]

This is actually the second time they've tried to ditch "Mormon" as a name for themselves. It didn't work the first time either.

[@tucuxi70]

Mormon was never ever the official name of the church. Wise up!

[@utah133]

@@tucuxi70 It was the common name and will be for the foreseeable future for most people. Nobody's going to use a long clumsy phrase every time they refer to the church except the devout.

[@jacobopstad5483]

I wasn't even in the church anymore by then, so I did not hear this announcement. But I did notice the quick change from embracing "mormon" to pushing the official name.

[@kateym2198]

I felt the same way about not using the name Mormon. I am a Mormon so no longer a faithful member as Church I thought I loved no longer exists.

[@nickdipaolofan5948]

I am feeling the same, I am mourning the church I grew up in that no longer exists. The church I believed in was rebranded to appeal to the younger kids. Now there is no emphasis on doctrines, just vague platitudes about love your neighbor and don't judge. I'm over here like, "so I guess the bible and other scriptures should have only been two sentences then??" They are watering down the church in order to be so vague that it can appeal to anyone since anyone can inject their own beliefs to the church and have no doctrines to cite that contradict their own views. In short, the church sold out to populism.

[@randyjordan5521]

@@nickdipaolofan5948 Dittos. They are doing the same thing that the RLDS church began doing about 30 years ago. They pay PR firms to conduct surveys and find out what the public likes or dislikes, and the church slightly alters certain things in order to attract more people. As an example of this, the church never had a majority positive public perception from its founding until they officially gave up polygamy and began preaching against it in 1904. Imagine how the mainstream LDS church would be viewed by the public today if they still advocated polygamy as the splinter Mormon groups do.

[@yourtanktopfriend777]

I’ve been out since 2005 and I was even disturbed by the name change and reason behind it.

[@johnlee1352]

Thanks for leaving so we didn't have to throw you out. Please continue to be "disturbed" ...just do it outside the church.

[@trishayamada807]

@@johnlee1352 aww you can feel that love.

[@johnlee1352]

@@trishayamada807 Did you want some?

[@veganmichelle]

I listened to and immensely enjoyed your whole Mormon Stories interview and just love this short clip from it. Thanks!

[@Alexa-cl5yz]

I really think members aren't more upset about the I Am a Mormon campaign because they never really know/care what the church does with all the tithing money.

[@h.r.9563]

Blind trust because "obedience is the first law of the gospel"

[@barriegiles9076]

Just to be clear, tithing money is not used for ad campaigns. It is used to maintain church buildings and temples and church schools.

[@randomname4726]

​@@barriegiles9076 They have over 150 billion!

[@autumnrice4639]

This speaks to me so deeply. I lived on the east coast for most of the I’m a Mormon campaign and remember all the KZbin videos, the social media profiles, the billboards in NYC, the Meet the Mormons movie in theaters that we were encouraged to attend. We drove over an hour to go see it and and support. So when Pres. Nelson made the statement that using the term Mormon was a “victory for Satan,” I was beyond confused, upset, and mad. It was a turning point for me in how I viewed the prophet and the Church. Of course, there had been things that bothered me already (priesthood ban, LGBTQ issues). But that talk shook me-then reading the gospel topics essays and doing a deep dive into church history has really opened my eyes to what a troubled past and present the Church has.

[@randyjordan5521]

"when Pres. Nelson made the statement that using the term Mormon was a “victory for Satan,” I was beyond confused, upset, and mad." Think about it: Nelson's statement means that he believes that the previous church leaders who pushed the "I'm a Mormon" campaign were working for Satan. But I'm sure that Nelson is too old and senile to have realized that before he started his "Let's ditch the word Mormon" campaign.

[@bigbrother1986]

Born a mormon. Struggled with faith which destroyed my self esteem because I felt pure guilt. This guilt nearly killed me literally. I wanted to die. Once I realised the church was a freemasonic cult I felt pure anger. This rage sent me down dark paths which then literally destroyed my life. Suicide was imminent. This cult is lethal.

[@helorumtheknightsofmambrin2155]

You can take the person out of Mormonism but you can't take Mormonism out of the person. Unfortunately, it will follow those who were raised the cult.

[@johnlee1352]

Thanks for leaving on your own so we didn't have to throw you out.

[@bigbrother1986]

@@johnlee1352 you carrot

[@johnlee1352]

@@bigbrother1986 Please keep your "dark paths" out of the church and these posts. Your personal struggles are of no moment to anyone here. Blaming your difficulties on the church is just pathetic...

[@bigbrother1986]

@@johnlee1352 now then that's not very christ like is it John. Come join me in outer darkness John. .. Hehe

[@kentthalman4459]

Remember "Meet the Mormons" from the 70s? it's been going on a long time.

[@bodalix18]

I met Gordon B Hinckley when I was young at the christening of new Temple in Idaho. There was an entirely different set of beliefs back then. These beliefs belong to what Gordon b Hinckley said during conference and other messages. Later on after leaving the church those beliefs changed. Current members say that this is good because the church changes with the times for the better good. They just forget that they had a profit who was supposed to be the ultimate say in everything who made a mistake and they gloss it over. The level of indoctrination shows for itself that members of the church cannot think for themselves.

[@hbendzulla8213]

I’m glad that the original Bible didn’t change. Except for some modifications Joseph Smith made to fit his Doctrine.

[@bodalix18]

@@hbendzulla8213 The bible has been changed though. You can find information on that. I recommend you check it out.

[@hbendzulla8213]

@@bodalix18 the basics in the Bible remain.

[@tienmou68]

Would love to hear about what you call "an entirely different set of beliefs".

[@bodalix18]

@@tienmou68 for example, the church's version of Joseph Smith's life. They denied his plural marriages, his criminal history, and they taught a very different story of how he "translated" the BoM. Another different set of beliefs would be their views of homosexuality. A gay person would be excommunicated then, now they are usually told to never act on their own sexuality since it isn't heterosexual. There's more, the church is always changing prophecy and acting like they don't.

[@kennance115]

The 1st thing that pops into most people's minds when they hear the word 'mormon' is polygamy. This isn't the first time the church has tried to distance themselves from the word but it seems they are more serious this time. I steel don't think it will work.

[@clawsoon]

The problem with the alternative is that whenever I see LDS my brain goes temporarily dyslexic and I think of a mind-altering drug.

[@TheShodan92]

In light of the " I am a Mormon campaign, and Mr. Hinckley stating " Mormon means ' More good ".. to be followed up with Mr. Nelson's, " The name is an offense to Jesus and a Victory for satan ", highlights the extent even active members of my family will go to give these fraudsters a pass!?. Omg I hope a prophet doesn't bring back Blood Atonement or I'll fear for my life!.

[@randyjordan5521]

The idea that "Mormon" means "more good" was dreamed up by Joseph Smith. Also, there's this: "What is the More Good Foundation? More Good Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that helps Mormons (members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) share their beliefs on the Internet. We operate websites and social media platforms in over 15 languages and provide tools and training to Universities, Institutes and Church Firesides. We work closely with and support other groups and foundations with like-minded missions from all over the world. More Good Foundation was created in 2005 as a solution to the overwhelming need for accurate information about the LDS faith on the Internet."

[@t8kithigher758]

We are the resistance! It’s time, it’s happening! The Mormon church is shaking in their boots! we have the truth! This video is A powerful witness!

[@tienmou68]

A video by a foul mouthed apostate spewing nonsense is a powerful witness??? I can see you are easily impressed. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@trentarmstrong3939]

@@tienmou68 You, with your quick judgment and venom only increase the power of Dr. John Dehlin's video. You address zero points and instead name call and demean. That's unreasonable. Being unreasonable was a part of what the video was addressing.

[@randyjordan5521]

I had a similar experience to Carah's. Mine was when the church leaders announced the ending of all stake welfare projects in 1982 or so. Such projects were a big part of Mormon culture for decades. My ward had a ten acre potato farm which I had spent many hours working on for 2-3 years as elder's quorum president in my mid 20s. I was taken aback when I went to church one Sunday and heard the announcement. All that work I had done for years for nothing. The scuttlebutt was that the church ended such projects because the farms used volunteer labor (of course) but sold their products on the public market, thus competing with local farmers who had to pay their workers and pay taxes. I assume that the IRS had issued some sort of ruling that the church had to pay taxes on the income from the farms or something, so the church leaders just did away with the farms. I guess that the most "faith-shaking" part of the thing was that the church leaders didn't have informed people running such departments who would have already known that the welfare projects were run improperly. Of course, this incident was just a tiny aspect of why my family and I resigned from the LDS church in 1998, but it helped to reveal to me that church leaders weren't guided by God in every footstep as they claim to be.

[@krismurphy7711]

Our Stake had a chicken-egg farm. I grew up vaccinating chickens and selling eggs to members EVERY week.

[@randyjordan5521]

@@krismurphy7711 Did the chickens have large talons? :-)

[@krismurphy7711]

@@randyjordan5521 Nope. White laying hens in cages

[@scottbrandon9390]

As a side note to the "I am a scientologist" campaign, I have noticed in recent years the Church of Scientology buys ad space during NFL Super Bowl broadcasts. Just imagine what a 30 second ad costs the church?

[@forrestsory1893]

She seem so much better Behaved and rational on this channel than the toxic hateful stuff on her channel. She was so mean and bitter I had to unsubscribe. It's good to see a better side of her.

[@j.pitkin2883]

Catholic, Baptist, Protestant, Methodist. All those names imply being a Christian. If the name "Mormon" doesn't automatically imply being a Christian, that's a problem.

[@davidralphs4]

It's so weird how LDS high ranking officials stress their middle initial. Just a thought from a life long secular gentile who was raised non-religious.

[@tienmou68]

You mean like Franklin D. Roosevelt, J. Edgar Hoover, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Richard M. Nixon, George W. Bush, William J. Clinton - you mean like that??? You moron. What is wrong with you? Grasping at any straw to mock and disparage the Church. You'll get yours buddy. You'll get yours.

[@gordonzio]

@@tienmou68 why so angry and afraid. ya I think he meant high ranking like the folks you mentioned. if your threats are referring to gods judgement and eternal damnation, I don't think anyone here in not laughing at you. take a deep breath, you'll be alright.

[@tomnelson3393]

I was just thinking about this talk and thuming through KZbin came across this and this just confirms what my beliefs are on the church

[@cassafrass7928]

Loved the last bit. I became inactive due to prop 8. One puzzle piece was enough for me.

[@GrassrootsLibertyBillFoster]

Thank you all for leading me into a Great and Marvellous Set of Works ! Secular Humanism is so spiritually desolate

[@derekpascal3749]

If the Mormon church is true, then God is a hypocrite with a very short memory. How else and the temporary eternal mindful be such a consistent mode of inspired leaders?

[@joetaylor8687]

THE OLD: :Dare to be a Mormon, Dare to stand alone, Dare to have a purpose firm, Dare to make it known." THE NEW: "Don't you DARE to say you're 'Mormon,' Don't you dare to use that name! "Cause Rusty doesn't like the term, and Rusty runs the game."

[@kaijessen3654]

Incredibly intelligent and self aware.

[@CarahBurrell]

Aw thanks! Nicest compliment ever!

[@dande3139]

"Racism isn't bad... sexism isn't bad..." What about the fact that it was blatantly untrue? I mean, I was more than happy to be a sexist, racist, homophobic, terrible person if it's what God wanted me to be. But when it turns out I was a sucky person just because a bunch of old, horney men lied to me? That feels bad...

[@helorumtheknightsofmambrin2155]

"I'm a Mormon," for the Church, was a good campaign. The so-called "revelations" of Russell M. Nelson are only making the ship more rapidly go down.

[@bannanakitchen]

The “Mormon” name change, is so 1984! Very disturbing!

[@utah133]

And don't forget to "doubt your doubts." (Turbo gaslighting)

[@tienmou68]

You are joking, right?

[@scottbrandon9390]

At 1:42. The name change in 2018 was a long time coming. Elder Ballard had been talking about using the correct name for years. It also came up in other talks. They even rebranded the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to The Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square.

[@matthewmitchell68]

I feel like there has been a huge disconnect with the church for quite some time with a lot of members, don't be afraid to explore your feelings on issues!

[@johnlee1352]

Good thing your "feelings" mean absolutely nothing.

[@jeaniedelaney4711]

It definitely blew my brains out. 🧠

[@lc1666]

I’m your baby Carah! ❤ keep spreading truth

[@asajayunknown6290]

I've got a question: I used to have a co-worker that had the SLC Temple as a screensaver, and also had this extremely creepy photo of himself with his daughter (10-12 years old at the time). The photo was reminiscent of the underage wedding photos back in the 1800s or perhaps the FLDS creep, Jeffs, from Colorado City. Why would he take that photo? He had his wife and multiple other children. It looked like a wedding photo, incl old school white dress and him wearing a dark suit, white shirt, dark tie.

[@UnderstandingMormonism]

The photo was most likely of him and his daughter in her baptism dress, which is traditionally white.

[@asajayunknown6290]

@@UnderstandingMormonism Thanks. But, it's STILL REALLY WEIRD/CREEPY/NOT normal. We have three wards in my city now, which means there are tons of Mormons around, but it's like they live in a parallel universe. The only place I encounter them is at the local high schools.

[@bethanyparker5629]

Probably from her baptism. You probably see them at the schools cos they have a bunch of kids there

[@patricianewhart3576]

I had a Bible teacher who married a Jack Mormon who was the head of a motorcycle outlaw gang. She was in a small town in Utah predominately Mormon..common phrase she often overheard " if not by then it's too late". Meaning? Just listen to an interview with Jeff Warren's daughter..at 7 yrs of age he called her into his.study, exposed himself then " taught her all about sex". Alot.more incestuous relationships in the LDS church then you would care to imagine. Utah's population is 80% Mormon...Utah has the highest rate of online pornographic subscriptions, highest rate of suicide,highest rate of prescriptions for anti depressants and highest rate of child abuse. And Mormons promote the wonderful family life you too can have if you join the lds church. Many families leave the church when their prubesent daughters tell them the questions they are asked by their older married Mormon bishop in a room where no other adult.is present.

[@ginaalton]

​@@patricianewhart3576you learned about the church from a hater of the church....skewed much?

[@amde8554]

As a non Mormon it blew my mind the church was like nope we’re not Mormons even though that’s what the book is called. How is that a win for satan?

[@scottstringham2997]

Does anyone else hear “Vote for Summer!” from Napoleon Dynamite when they hear “Win for Satan!” No. Just me then. Okay.

[@jonathanwilliams1641]

I left the church in 1990 and have been moderately critical of it ever since. I'm offended if anyone calls me anti-mormon and I'd prefer the dignity and respect of being called: "Anti-The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

[@johnlee1352]

Thanks for leaving so we didn't have to throw you out. It's been a great thirty two years without your weakness...

[@jonathanwilliams1641]

@@johnlee1352 Continue to feel self-righteous as your tithing goes to support the covering up of serial pedophiles like Paul Adams. You must be so proud to belong to an evil institution which puts protecting itself ahead of protecting children. But you are probably also proud of the name Lee, especially if you are related to John D. Lee.

[@jonathanwilliams1641]

@@johnlee1352 I would have been thrown out soon because critical thinking and integrity are the LAST things the mormons want around them.

[@johnlee1352]

@@jonathanwilliams1641 Keep your "critical thinking and integrity" far away from the faithful. Dignity and respect are not your companions...interesting that after more than 3 decades, here you are pathetically bashing a faith you claim to have rejected all those years ago. I think you have unfinished business with the Mormons...wow

[@krismurphy7711]

@@johnlee1352 ANOTHER CHRIST LIKE MOMENT FROM "John"

[@beboystyle620]

I get the feeling that Nelson did not really like Monson.

[@wt460]

Just a small correctiion, I believe it’s “I’m a Moron” campaign!

[@scottbrandon9390]

The Church of Jesus Christ was the name upon founding in 1830. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was a new name as of 1838. The Mormon Church (the church body) or Mormons (its members) was more of a nickname. Why in 2018 was the nickname changed to LDS and the choir name changed I have no idea. It seems today they do not want anything associated with "mormon".

[@williamcharles2117]

Trying to find more information on her involvement with the Them Before Us organization. The promote a traditional family structure at the exclusion of non-traditional ones. What are her thoughts on that now?

[@mikestewart6517]

Lots of things aren't bad anymore. I hear there are Coca-Cola machines at BYU.

[@thomaskeil1437]

Carah, Don't be yourself. Be someone you really are not.

[@MegaJohn144]

Wow. I never heard of the "I am a Mormon" being a response to the Book of Mormon Musical or Scientology. But, I have known for a long time that these guys are incompetent.

[@KristinaUSA-x5n]

Doing background checks into my friends and Jesuit Masonic and Mormon friends and family and my pediatrician and psychologists and it is like a Ponzi scheme and it is connected to Scientology and when I checked my ftDNA results the most common name of my family is Smith because my dad's family settled the USA and Missouri. I reported abuse and was retaliated against and libeled and had everything stolen. In 2013 my church had an open casket sermon that triggered my PTSD and I was hacked and held hostage and tortured. The men in my family have credit for everything they have done and have kept everything in my parents name and kept me from being able to use my degrees and move away from home.

[@joanmary90]

How does Carah define herself now that she's out of the church?

[@o.g.6221]

carah, how is being able to say fuck anytime ya want working out?! hahaha. we love you sooo much.

[@727Phoenix]

At least for New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern it was the LGBT+ issue that convinced her to leave when at university. Big win for that country I'd say!!

[@jacobsmith1987]

Big shelf item for me

[@johnlee1352]

Weak shelves break first! Glad you've left...we're stronger for it.

[@Listenerandlearner870]

I think you're a friend of Sam. You 2 are super.

[@lesahardman9914]

It was a major issue for me as well..

[@dl6066]

If you have lost your faith then I think this KZbin video "Come Follow Me Insights (Doctrine and Covenants 109-110, Sep 27-Oct 3)" is worth seeing.

[@Wilvekio69]

Lds is not the true church… in fact it’s based in divination which is not Christian by any means

[@samsmom400]

6:12 you were NEVER a "Jesus freak". I feel so bad for people who've left the cult, like I did, and mistake it for being "Christian". It isn't even REMOTELY "Christian". Having "Jesus" in the title of your "church" doesn't make you anymore "Christian" than being in Christian Scientology. You can't possibly know Christ in the Mormon "church". A Christian reads the Bible, knows it's true, and prays everyday. If you are praying to Jesus Christ, He WILL reveal the truth to you. If you choose mormonism over Christ, than you've made your decision. You are a Mormon, not a Christian. And you are not one of His children, He created you, but you are not His child.

[@CarahBurrell]

I can see you are getting upset. Why do you care so passionately about what version of Jesus I (someone you don’t know) worshiped 3 years ago?

[@patricianewhart3576]

My New Age brainless now ex sister ( the fact I am her second ex sister..youngest sister will have nothing do with her ..speaks more about her then us.l) was absolutely enthralled with the.I am a Mormon commercials. She thought they were absolutely wonderful. Gee then why not join I said. Guaranteed her rebellious attitude to any authority would make a fast exit cause no one can tell her what to do. She couldn't handle the rules and requirements to be a Mormon in good standing. But she would wholehardly embrace the doctrines about progression to God status..all new agers belief they are already gods..they are just one step ahead of mormons.

[@joetaylor8687]

It's the standard old flip-flop . . . whether you're talking about race, polygamy, Adam-god, sexuality generally, or a few dozen other things. Flip-flop . . . I guess they're saying God just can't make up his mind about things.

[@krismurphy7711]

Jesus found out that He had been scammed by his brother Lucifer....and told Nelson to change it.

[@danielmurdoch2625]

Mormon Radicalism... i know another religion based on radicalism....

[@matthewphillips3926]

I was seeing “Im a Mormon” youtube ads on every video pretty recently, now its a pejorative nickname?

[@ginaalton]

From a person who profits and makes a name from hating on the church this seems so ironic. She has been trying to make herself famous off the church her whole adult life it seems....one way or another. The hate angle seems to be working for her. 🤷✌🏼. How cancerous to live a life consumed by the one thing she claims to have "left". If she truly left the church...and all the fame and attn it gets her one way or another....what paycheck would she have then??

[@tthomas6013]

My ex-Husband is married to the Secretary to the Prophet. She “types and corrects” most the talks. So, she probably let that talk to go!.....lol. Not really lol,....SICK.

[@krismurphy7711]

Apparently Jesus changed His mind? One day He was AOK with "Mormon Church" and then He decided it was simply Evil Younger Brother Lucifer's plan and He had fallen for it....??

[@dividedwefall652]

John D, i need your help. Please talk about church railroading. The church is destroying my life and my children and trying to shut me up. Stolen millions of dollars.

[@Insta_baby]

Calm down everyone! Leaning away from the nickname ’Mormon’ and more towards the longer Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints®️ isn’t a big deal.

[@countryboyred]

Carah mentions becoming an “atheist lefty” vs a “Jesus freak”. Interesting how religious views correlate with politics. Any hardcore atheist right-wingers out there? Or extremely Christian democrats?

[@julieprince5538]

Book of Mormon? Finally calling themselves Satan

[@Bold11x]

Another thing that's interesting about ex Mormons is how they speak about other Christian churches as if they are similarly set up the way the Mormon church is, when they are not even close. Yes some churches are, but Christianity on a whole has no building or organizational structure outside of Christ, meaning that the "church" is within the believer or body of believers, they may congregate and fellowship at a church that a pastor has set up but there are no strict guidelines you follow, you could go to Church "A" one week and church "B" the next and the message would be the same. A Christian has a direct relationship with Jesus and needs no other man or building to maintain that relationship

[@luvmorrisey20]

Sad. Sad. Sad.

[@emilec310]

It's hilarious how she doesn't know how to use fuck in a sentence lol It takes practice hahaha

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

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[@andrewenderfrost8161]

it's a Dimaryp

[@firesondiego7666]

Wow, it's incredible to see such hate towards a false doctrine that they supposedly want nothing to do with. Interesting...

[@MrCoreymart]

I like the videos as I know Mormonism is wrong, but it’s hard to hear you’re no longer a believer in Christ as he is the way the truth and the life and is not the same Jesus LDS teaches….praying for this podcast

[@jonathanwilliams1641]

How, exactly is a mythical being the truth and the life? What does that even mean? Funny to hear people of one delusion criticize the delusions of others.

[@justus6]

Colonizing? 🙄

[@PhilemonMortimer-q6o]

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[@eabcool]

lol i just..cant..... To me the 'mormon' campaign was to tell people outside the church who knew the word that the members were just normal people. It didn't mean a direct embrace of that word.

[@tienmou68]

The wicked always try to gin up controversy and grievances to justify their apostasy.

[@gordonzio]

@@tienmou68 and youre on this exmo site, why?

[@mrs.therapist6122]

I will agree. I am mormon and will always be mormon. Its ridiculous. Not the churches finest moment.. but the church is a growing church and we make big mistakes. Yours truly a happy cult member lol!!

[@tienmou68]

John, the modern day Korihor.

[@kentthalman4459]

The question on everyone's mind is whether or not Alma will ever show up.

[@chasekimball7378]

Let me get this right. The name has always been, "The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-Day-Saints," but now President Nelson wants to focus on that name, rather than the nickname, "Mormon," and people are leaving the church because of this. It's like me refusing to fly Airtran, because they changed their name from Valujet. Doesn't this sound ridiculous?

[@scottrobinson9334]

It is, alot of ppl get caught up in the small things it's so easy to argue over they forget the bigger picture like that in the New testament it actually says don't say you were baptized in the gospel of Paul or John or moses but the gospel of Jesus Christ, this is the main reason I support not calling myself a Mormon but I also understand member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a mouthful for non members(and anybody honestly,lol) so I'm cool with being called a latter day saint. I also can see as a convert that there are many issues that members don't think for their selves but just follow what their told without question

[@CarahBurrell]

You really think I left the church over just a name change comparable to an airline?

[@tienmou68]

@@CarahBurrell It's hard to know what you left the Church over. Your anger filled screed was kinda hard to follow - with all the foul language, lies, half-truths and twisted "facts" the only thing that was clear is that you are kicking against the pricks and hoping to turn as many against Christ as you can. Misery loves company and you, Honey, are just trying your best to gather up some friends.

[@CarahBurrell]

@@tienmou68 Indeed I gathered up some friends. We’re calling ourselves the Foul Mouthed Skanky Alley Cats inspired by you @8seconds! (why’d you name yourself after how long you last in bed by the way?) Thanks for the name for my friends though! We’re making t shirts.

[@mylesmarkson1686]

@@CarahBurrell That name is a total lie. That dude couldn't even last 8 seconds if there was a gun aimed at his head!

[@dleoburns]

Carah Burrell: The official name of the Church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That was established on April 26, 1838. D&C 115: 3 "And also unto my faithful servants who are of the high council of my church in Zion, for thus it shall be called, and unto all the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world; 4 For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." The Latter Day Saint movement eventually produced several denominations. Any one of those could call themselves "Mormon." [Wikipedia/Latter Day Saints movement/denominations]

[@tienmou68]

She was just looking for something to justify her apostasy with. One thing I did notice - there is no way she learned to swear and curse like that in the 7 months since the October 2020 General Conference. She was a filthy foul mouthed narcissist long before President Nelson gave his talk.

[@dleoburns]

@@tienmou68: Wasn't impressed by her performance!

[@alananat6628]

No one cares. The LDS church is a haven for abusers and members who think it's okay and do nothing about it.

[@dleoburns]

@@alananat6628: I do not think so! I do not think you know what you are talking about.

[@alananat6628]

@@dleoburns You dont have to agree with me. I've been an abuse advocate in the LDS church for a very long time. I know something about it.

[@DMacMoroni1032]

I am so surprised that members that leave the church because President Nelson corrected the proper name to address the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints which the Lord had spoken by revelation to Joseph Smith Jr. - when people for small and simple things I question that validity of their testimony and conversion to the RESTORED Gospel of Jesus Christ🤔❓

[@krismurphy7711]

How long have you been a Mormon?

[@dmacsuccess9954]

@@krismurphy7711 if the question was directed to me? I have been a member for over 33 years.

[@krismurphy7711]

If you are Dr. Mac above, yes. Obviously the Issue is Conflicting "Revelation"/Direction. How could The Church used "Mormon" for how long?...and then it ending up part of Satan's Plan????? Kinda erodes confidence in Previous Leadership IF correct ....AND erodes confidence if Current Leadership is not correct.

[@dmacsuccess9954]

@@krismurphy7711 The Doctrine of Christ doesn’t change. Errors are made by men of God and when the Lord sees fit he will correct them in His due time. For example, when the Resurrected Lord came to the Nephi Nation in 3 Nephi 11 through chapter 26; he told Nephi in one of these chapters that they should include the records of Samuel the Lamanite and thus they did. Remember men of God are NOT perfect we find this recorded in the Old Testament such as Moses when he smote the rock; or when Saul did not destroy ALL that he was commanded by God to do, thus God will call me. Who will adhere to all his commandments. I believe one of the reasons the counsel to follow the prophet is so IMPORTANT and ESSENTIAL is because many members of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints DO NOT know well the scriptures and thus are led astray and fall away:-( Those who keep ALL the commandments of God and ALL Covenants made in the Temple as they continual feast upon the words of Christ will NOT FALL as per Helaman 5:12 because they are built upon the ROCK of Jesus Christ. The Church ALL TRUE the people MAY NOT be always True and Faithful but God knows who are and those who are know they know God knows! Many who fall away and leave The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints are Covenant BREAKERS - Finding Fault with the Prophets and Apostles is a small and indication of deeper spiritual wounds that lead them further away from the Lord’s True Church.

[@krismurphy7711]

@@dmacsuccess9954 Kinda like the "personal racism" on the part of how many Prophets & Apostles, that denied the Priesthood & Temple to Blacks??? Isn't this the same thing??? OR... incorrect CURRENT leadership? Why would Jesus AGAIN ALLOW the Church to be misled???

[@BrianTerrill]

She really cusses a lot, unprofessional for even ex standards

[@krismurphy7711]

A free soul. Outside the Mormon Bubble. Basically PISSED OFF. Me too.

[@BrianTerrill]

@@krismurphy7711 she was always free, just talking stupid now. No one was holding you people hostage when you were going to church, just stereotypical crap from those who hate the church

[@siilatacollins154]

Anyone who left the TRUE CHURCH, like Mr. JOHN DEHLIN, & can't leave the CHURCH alone, is a sure sign of extreme ignorance & rebelliousness; They're extremely miserable.

[@johnsax1445]

Yet here you are going off on them. Keep trying to convince yourself you belong to “the one true church”. The Jehovah Witnesses have been doing that for years 🙄

[@siilatacollins154]

@@johnsax1445 It's obvious that you have the same sign too, which is extreme misery. You're very deceiful too, like John Dehlin. Jehovah's Witness is the same as where you at now, you're not a CHRISTIAN, you're a PROTESTANT DECEIT MOVEMENT GROUP'S, I'm a member of THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, I'm not a PROTESTANT. You all should leave the TRUE CHURCH alone. You should repent from your personal sin's of, sodom and gumorrah, Babylon and Egypt.

[@siilatacollins154]

@@johnsax1445 John Dehlin left CHRISTIANITY, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, because of his rebelliousness and ignorance, refuse to repent from his personal sin's of sodom and gumorrah, Babylon and Egypt, like all of you, you all are very deceiful, betrayal, coming up with all kinds of excuse's, you betraying your own Soul's. You all can't leave the TRUE CHURCH alone.

[@mylesmarkson1686]

@@siilatacollins154 It takes one to know one. You're the poster-child for misery. You could leave these ex-Mormon sites alone, but you can't do it, and you keep getting more miserable by the second.

[@Wilvekio69]

Lds is not the true church… in fact it’s based in divination which is not Christian by any means

[@kentskoien7583]

Again; there is no such thing as mormonism and you know it. And you are discussing things that do not even matter. Totally insignificant. Go back to the basics and stay there. After the many miracles in my life that have cemented my faith in Jesus Christ and His true Church I clearly see your attempts to steer other people away from it. You are digging your own grave. You have made a lot of videos trying to damage the Lord's Church. How much money are you making on them ?

[@krismurphy7711]

I'm not in it for the money....and no one I'm aware of....BUT THIS POINT ABOUT Nelson and "Mormon" is spot on. Which Prophet was out to lunch??? Nelson? Monson? Hinckley? I grew up with "Meet the Mormons" ....even had BUMPER STICKERS.....THEN....NELSON DECIDES (?) that the word "Mormon" is a tool of Satan......WTH?...... So which Prophet was right and is Nelson wrong??

[@Wilvekio69]

Lds is not the true church… in fact it’s based in divination which is not Christian by any means

Seriously, get over yourselves! Huge egos much??! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lexifarrell3047]

I‘d say a bunch of old decaying men proclaiming themselves prophets who speak for God to millions is slightly more egotistical then two ex-Mormons debunking their nonsense.

[@andrewj.lacayo6256]

Sorry but this girl is lost. She doesn't get it. Why didn't she remember Elder Ballard say the same thing 20 years ago?

[@jonathanwilliams1641]

What did Elder Ballard say 20 years ago? And does that somehow change the fact that the church had an official, and expensive, campaign from 2010 to 2018 promoting the use of the term "Mormon?" It's like you are being gas-lighted and you enjoy it. Do you not remember the "I'm a Mormon" campaign? I'm sorry but I think you may be the one that is lost.

[@krismurphy7711]

Was Ballard THE PROPHET? Begs the Question of does Jesus communicate with LDS Church Leaders IF this kind of Satan Scheme could go on for sooooo long....OR if current "Prophet" Nelson is just hearing voices?

[@ruthdorius2831]

So Sorry, but God hasn't lost his faith in you.

[@dinalavaki2982]

It wasnt a mistake foo.mormon name used by people who dislike the church so they called them mormon because of the book of mormon when the church started.the church was name after jesus christ.WHY?book of mormon tell you why.so what church are going to joint now?greatest gift that God gave us is free agency.free to choose.well Nelson didnt make any mistake on that speech but you did.

[@raymond1842]

Wow! Can you imagine how weak her testimony had to be for this to cause her to leave the Church? Different times call for different policies, that is why we have living Prophets. The truth is that she wasn't comfortable with the lifestyle and standards that the Church taught. She was looking for an exit ramp and this was a convenient time for her. Satan works hard on the weak and has much success convincing them they are doing the right thing.

[@krismurphy7711]

Bullshit. I had the same reaction to Nelson's "revelation." Frankly he said, without directly saying it, that EVERY PRECEEDING PROPHET AND APOSTLE WAS A TOOL OF SATAN FOR ALLOWING AND RUNNING WITH THE USE OF THE WORD "MORMON." I wondered then what the mental state of President Nelson was at that time.

[@raymond1842]

@@krismurphy7711 See my comment above. If you don't believe in living Prophets you won't make it in the Restored Church. If you want to find a reason to leave, you will find it. A weak testimony will fail you every time.

[@krismurphy7711]

@@raymond1842 I had a testimony...that apparently was the result of indoctrination. I found Nelson's "revelation" on the word "Mormon" to troubling. WHICH "PROPHET" WAS CORRECT??? Nelson saying this now, or ALL the "Prophets" who actively endorsed the use of "Mormon" in THEMED CHURCH PR PROGRAMS?? Who could "Meet the Mormons" be part of the Plan of Satan???

[@krismurphy7711]

@@raymond1842 But...if "Prophets and Apostles" could let their personal racism drive the Church's "Blackout Policy" for over 100+, that denied Blacks the Priesthood and access to the Temple, apparently they can lead the Church astray on MAJOR ISSUES.

[@raymond1842]

@@krismurphy7711 The Priesthood ban had nothing to do with personal racism. Crying racism is just another reason for those with a weak testimony to justify "escaping" from the tyranny of Mormonism.

[@paulgregersen3570]

The name Mormon was never the name of the church anyway. The church always made that clear. We became identified by a nick name by others. That Nick name was accepted for years but because of the anti Mormon movement especially after the internet time today, these biased haters have tainted that name and dirtied it to the point that we needed to totally give up that nick name. Anti Mormonisms favorite favorite word to kick around and abuse just got taken away from them and now they are mad. The prophet simply switched out their game plan. Brilliant on his part and timely. If this gal qhit that easy she was already on the ropes.

[@UnderstandingMormonism]

All valid points! But the real question is this: why would church leaders who claim to be inspired by God spend $6 million to re-brand the name "Mormon" (through the "I'm A Mormon" ad campaign) only to drop that name a few years later? Seems like a severe lack of foresight from men that claim divine inspiration... Like the LGBT+ exclusion policy reversal, this just forces members to question whether LDS church leaders are truly inspired by God, and what other decisions they got wrong.

[@paulgregersen3570]

@@UnderstandingMormonism The name Mormon was not always negative. I never thought it was. The last few years however it's become a dirty word because of the hate on the internet. Mormons all do this and that, everywhere! The book of Timothy commands elders who preach the gospel to all practice polygamy in the Bible, but then, they suddenly have a new policy change where bishops have to all stop polygamy and only have one wife. I don't see policy changes as evidence of no revelation. The church has always had policy changes. Christ would not let white gentiles become church members in his day. Remember? Wouldn't give them the priesthood either. Years later however Christ tells Peter to change the church policy and let the gentiles join the church on the day of Pentacost Remember? Nobody then thought revelation was bad policy why should anybody today? Your just being tricked by anti Mormons to try to install bias in your head is what's going on.