Why I’m NO LONGER A DoorDash Top Dasher

I had a challenge to increase my DoorDash acceptance rate to 70% to become a Top Dasher. There were some positives and negatives, but I found out that this program was not right for me. I honestly didn't mind being a Top Dasher for the most part, but there was one element that caused me to reject this program for good.
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[@RD-ce6bb]

DD motto : Keep A/R high by accepting offers and working for free while using your vehicle , gas , insurance and maybe you can get better offers later...lol. How stupid is that?

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

If I was using DoorDash's vehicle to deliver and was their employee, then I'd understand, but I have to treat this like a business and take the best orders possible

[@RD-ce6bb]

I agree 100%

[@RobertBee-fs8hv]

Pretty stupid

[@GruesomePizza1992]

I’m sure it’s so at some point you can subscribe to Uber/DD premium as a driver to get priority.

[@damenflagg9861]

You would be surprise with how many drivers are ok with this concept. lol accept trash offers to get better ones later. Not realizing when you get better orders later you’re making up for the time you took bad orders. So in a way your working backwards. Then when that streak of good orders is over you go back to bad offers and have to start the process all over again o my to find that you worked a month and maybe received a week combined of great offers.

[@brendaplunkett8659]

Mad respect for keeping it real. Other youtubers are focus on making some money off their channel.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I always want to be as honest as possible! By being authentic, I hope that my viewers will trust what I'm saying is correct information

[@RobertoLopez-c2m]

Pedro doordash😂😂😂

[@Moe-breezy87]

Facts!

[@Moe-breezy87]

Facts!

[@d_no_allyn_86]

​@@PhoenixDeliverieswe need more earnest people like you. I think that's why I enjoy your channel so much. It feels like you're really just speaking from your heart and mind and being straight up genuine.

[@WITYTRAVELS]

Great to see a truthful recap of the experience. 💯

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Glad I could share my thoughts!

[@lgrinaker]

I remember when you started your experiment of getting above 70%, you mentioned part of it was about preparing for the pilot “tier” reward system coming your way at some point (for example, large orders only available to platinum dashers). There’s also “dash anytime” vs scheduling, which is an important factor in my area. But I can definitely understand holding off when you’re still getting large orders at 5% and scheduling isn’t an issue for you. Thanks for your videos! I enjoy them!

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Yeah it was always an experiment. I realized I could do it without losing too much money, so if the new program ever comes my way, I'll be prepared for it

[@AlyssaTheePatriot]

Great work on your channel with the pros and cons of DD. Im on UE much more, they are market and not hot spot and AR crazy. Plus the clientele tips 90% of the time. Keep on hustling and keep your head up! 😊

[@wb4h]

As soon as I made Top Dasher they started send me all the NO TIP orders, at first I was getting great orders, then it was like they decided to crash my acceptance rate. So no more top dasher for me. In my opinion top dasher is a scam to get the crap no one want delivered.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Yeah it seems like they could send bad orders on purpose once you hit 70% acceptance

[@RD-ce6bb]

They just wanted to keep you working for free while they make billions

[@jenniferwinterbauer8884]

You get low orders being a high priority/top dasher also.. $2 to $5.. all that b******* they say is a scam.

[@corneliusjones1173]

Top dasher = I'll take any order because I'm an idiot/sucker😢

[@RU-HDD-4-HVN]

@wb4h Bingo it's not just you or your imagination...... it's like they thrive on screwing us with the app. It should never be like this.

[@Human_zenla]

There is never a need to accept orders everyone else rejected.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

That's what I think. The bad orders have to be delivered somehow and the drivers with a 10% acceptance rate definitely aren't the ones accepting them

[@eltorres25]

Well yeah now you have to actually accept the orders because the minimum is 50% of 23 to create a schedule without a schedule we are

[@factsmatter1172]

Let me tell you, you ain't said nothing but the truth.

[@motor4151]

In my area with low ratings all I see is untakable orders. Luckily I have gh and Uber eats as backup.

[@nocturnus6]

@@eltorres25 That's what might ruin it for me. 70% of the orders in this area are not worth taking. AT 50% acceptance rate, I would be losing money. When reward program gets here, I'm hoping I can still get on the schedule 5 days out, that will be the only way I get to dash.

[@tdig6546]

Glad you learned. I've been doing it since 2019. I do select orders and decline lots. With the new algorithm it seems like as long as you are in the 50% range you still get the big orders but maybe not as frequently if there are a bunch of top dashers in your area. I constantly multi-app and have 2 to 6 orders onboard at most given times.

[@Logan_Woods-zd2zi]

I'm in Canada and 2 years ago I did 1076 trips for Uber Eats and only 2 orders for DoorDash. I accepted the two DD orders and went to the first restaurant and they were only just opening, then there was no way for me to note this on the app and I had to creatively get them both done somehow. The app just wasn't responding. I know I messaged the first order and let her know the restaurant was still getting it ready and then just went back after I'd picked up the second order and wrote down everything on a pad of paper. I never took another DD order after that! The Uber app was a lot more failsafe and user friendly (intuitive) - it essentially tells you what to do each step of the way, where as the DD app, kind of leaves it up to you to manage if you get multiple orders.

[@azumpire]

Waddup Jacob! I knew it would only be a matter of time working the top dasher angle :) I finally got into grub hub after being on wait list for 4 years. Had a great Monday $76 in 2 1/2 hours, but the rest of the week? Had about 60 offers and all declined. But at least now I have 3 platforms for food, and 2 for rideshare. Glad you are back to reality on DD heheh. I somehow have managed to get my DD AR back up to 27% Guess many dashers took last night off, and I reaped the rewards LOL! Still getting catering orders even when was I was below 10% AR. Anyways, 2% AR on Uber Eats, but even they threw me a couple decent offers last night. Hope to see you out in North Scottsdale again :)

[@coreyrice8607]

It’s simple. Being a top dasher is a must if you live in a small town like I do. In busy cities it really doesn’t matter but out here you’re sitting all day with an acceptance rate under 70%. I have 14k deliveries so I’m no rookie!

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

That makes a lot of sense. Sitting without any orders is the worst especially when you know Top Dashers are busy delivering

[@RD-ce6bb]

This is true...Sitting and waiting is boring ( I think DD knows this and takes advantage) but waiting is still better than working for free or below minimum wage while using your car, gas etc.....Gig apps don't care or pay for a high mileage depreciated car....In the end we are all stuck with "that bill" @@PhoenixDeliveries

[@coreyrice8607]

@@PhoenixDeliveries I work tons in orange county and by no means does top dasher matter. But at home in Hemet if your not td your fucked. All from personal experience

[@ShelterDogs]

You drive all the way to OC from Hemet to do DD?

[@rach_3336]

Do you multi app?

[@rogerwilco1777]

Now imagine being an Instacart worker and seeing $4-6 dollar orders! Not only will that NOT cover your gas, but you're gonna have to spend 30mins or more shopping etc.. and if anything is on sale or out of stock, part of your tip is now stolen back as well.. Contractors need better laws to defend us.

[@ericwolfe8119]

We don't need better laws... we need to make better decisions. If you've done more a few shop and pay orders, you already know what to expect when you accept/decline the next one... right? I need an obscene payout to even consider shopping for someone I don't know. Even then, I have a two item rule. One of the first two items is out of stock or just too hard to find, or just too stupidly obscure... unassign order. I let someone else figure it out. If a customer wants some major brand, heavily stocked products... no worries. If they want me to pick their produce, find a filet mignon at a particular weight, or wander every aisle in the store until I figure out where the Kombucha section is only the find out that Pomegranate-pineapple is not in stock... those customers will instantly become some other driver's business. I drop those orders like a hot rock.

[@rogerwilco1777]

@@ericwolfe8119 Correct. But they shouldn't be allowed to pay below min wage ever. "Ha Ha I suckered you into working for free and its your dumb fault for not realizing it", shouldn't be a legal business practice.?

[@ericwolfe8119]

@@rogerwilco1777 I agree, but minimum wage is an employee protection, and we aren't employees. As sole proprietor small business operators, we must protect ourselves with our decisions. If you want the protection of government, you will need to go shelter under the umbrella of someone else's business as their employee...

[@RU-HDD-4-HVN]

@@ericwolfe8119 Sweatshop laws are to protect the innocent from evil corporate predatory practices. This is that.

[@ryanhilliard1620]

As a Shipt shopper, I don’t understand the appeal of DD. In order to make an hour, what I average with Shipt, I had to do a head spinning hour of stacking orders and running all over the place. I still didn’t make what I make with Shipt, calmly shopping an order, dropping it off and going back to the same store for my next shop. Can someone explain the appeal?🤷‍♂️

[@shallowbay1701]

In most areas of the country, none of these apps are appealing on their own. Instacart and Spark seem to be way more profitable for delivering groceries. Shipt's pay model looks like shit to me lol. Your tips must be huge...

[@___David___Savian]

.. . Here is why I agree with this video. On average, most drivers on Uber deliver about three deliveries an hour which take between 15 to 20 minutes for each delivery. Sometimes you can piggy back two or three orders at a time, but not always. That means EVERYTHING would have to go perfectly every hour you work on a FLAT hourly rate so that your 18 dollars on UBer in New York or 20 in Florida, etc, becomes worth while for Uber (not you). That means that in three trips per hour Uber pays you about 6 dollars per trip in New York. But, here is the problem with that algorithm. Anyone that has ever driven for Uber for a few days can tell you that a lot of trips take 20 to 25 minutes to drive to the restaurant, wait for the restaurant to give you the food. Then, you have to stop at red lights. Then, if the distance is over two miles, it will take you a while to deliver the food. Then, as this video says, if there is heavy traffic or it is snowing or raining hard you have to drive slower because you don't want to be in an accident or hurt someone else just so that you can deliver a snack to Timmy 3 to 4 miles away. In other words, there is no room for error or delay of any kind with this ludicrous FLAT rate option. Many drivers will also be undermined because the FLAT rate drivers will get much more trips as their rating goes up for accepting semi forced dangerous trips to bad neighborhoods and to very far safe neighborhoods. So, if you are more of a local driver that only drives within a couple of miles of where you are, you won't get as many offers as before because they now have slaves that HAVE to go wherever Uber says or you may be de-activated or your rating will go down. I suggest also to stay away from FLAT rate salary so that at least you can continue to be your own boss due to the aforementioned trap falls and because Uber does not pay your gas or car depreciation and repairs when forced to drive quicker, to dangerous areas and unpredictable probable delay scenarios !!! One last thing. I see these apps eventually most probably taking your tips and not letting you know. They could block you from seeing if you got tipped after the delivery and show the tip only to a percentage of drivers so it seems they are giving up the tips to the drivers. But, it's very probable they keep most of the tips to make up for the increase in salary. I do think there will be a lawsuit in the future against these apps. It's gonna get really bad for the drivers really fast. Drivers don't realize how they will play with your money. You will see. They will de-activate you a lot more and not give you as many orders and freeze your money. So, transfer your pay at the end of every day in case they freeze your funds. You will see. Screen shoot this comment from today December 12, 2023.

[@konstantinkolyabin7336]

Jacob thanks for an unbiased analysis of your experience and giving both sides. Thats been my experience in my market as well. Appreciate the great edifying video again!

[@310qwert]

In my opinion, it you are grinding out percentages, go by the hour instead of by offers, that way it will get you more $ especially if you got to wait a while for orders... at that point - youre compensating for no tippers

[@xTerrorApex]

Brave decision. If the tier program comes to AZ it’s goodbye LOP!

[@whelenvortexr4]

Thank you for this video, I'm a new dasher and love it. I'm trying to work hard to maintain top dasher, because I'm afraid I won't make 1200 to 1500 a month. I'm an Herbalife Distributor and doing Doordash for extra income. I don't want to multi app.

[@shallowbay1701]

DD is pissing me off lately with the oversaturation. They have $2-3 peak pay almost every night in my zone, so nobody except top clowns and newbies can even get orders.

[@noramayers7671]

When I get a bad order I pause for five minutes. Orders are better after the pause for some reason. I've been able to keep my AR high in this way. Also as a top Dasher I only sign in when the area shows red. If things slow down I know the area has gone gray and I end the dash until it is red again. So far, so good.

[@KingGhost_]

What are you going to do when the new teir program comes out there. You will not have access to large orders when that program starts with a low AR. I'm currently trying to get my AR back up because the tier program just came here and I have not seen any large orders anymore.

[@lgrinaker]

Ouch. Not in my area yet, but I’m trying to prepare for it. Last time I checked, the tier program had greatly expanded since checking several weeks before. Gulp!

[@KingGhost_]

@@lgrinaker Yes it really sucks I have been in the large order program for over two years and always was getting Bangerz back to back. Now I get none. My AR is currently at 53% so I’m trying to get it up to 70 because that’s the only way they will allow you back in the road large order program with that tier system. As soon as that system came to my area on the first day I saw an immediate change with orders. Are used to make 200 to 300 a day in about 8 to 10 hours now I can’t even make 200 a day. I only make 150 in about eight hours and that’s struggling real bad for me. I haven’t seen a $200 day in over a week and a half and all I do is DoorDash my Uber got deactivated

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully it gets better with a 70% acceptance rate and maybe DoorDash will take away this program if it doesn't work out for them

[@nocturnus6]

@@PhoenixDeliveries Has DD ever pulled back a program they implemented? I doubt it. I bet once the Tier program rolls out there will be no going back. I certainly hope they rethink it at some point, perhaps fine tuning the requirements. I hope it fails, because this will probably be the end of DD for me. I probably won't be able to dash without the early schedule. Was the Diamond program a failure? It must have been, since they are replacing it with the Tier program. Seems like when a program fails, they just replace it one that is more draconian.

[@fern]

In Toronto we get 100s of orders for $4 to go 16+ kilometers nonstop. Other day I got $9.25 to go 36 km.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

That's brutal. Have you ever tried Top Dasher?

[@catilopez2094]

Same here, North Carolina

[@RD-ce6bb]

This is why my A/R is constantly at around 20% or less for both DD and UE....I refuse to take those crazy upside down orders ...I am also in the Toronto area.

[@douglashoward5738]

Keeping it real awesome

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I'll always try to do my best at sharing my true experiences

[@demetriusbillings9510]

The most annoying thing to Me is the ''hand it to me'' customers and the slimy games they play to try to get refunds and free food!! These types of customers are smart enough to know that once the delivery is set to ''hand it to me'' it eliminates any real chnce to include photos, but what I'll do is when I get a ''hand it to me customer'' I'll text them the order status the whole way up until I make the drop, and when I get out and give them their order, I automatically snap the pic of them getting the product...funny thing is, most times the customers will say ''thanks'' and try to walk off before I can do it

[@CosmoHills]

Honestly I feel like being a top dasher is forcing to take so many bad orders

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Yeah too many bad orders for me

[@RD-ce6bb]

Yup

[@Kumugen]

Top dasher isnt a very good program. It completely removes the idea of “independent contractor”. I could understand it if we were receiving a minimal wage or better base pay that made sense. Top dasher should be an additional incentive for peak pay and streaks advantages. The higher your acceptance rate, the higher your peak pay and streaks are when they are active. Top dasher allows people who dont tip the entitlement they have. Tips are for the service of the driver not the service of the restaurant.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I completely agree that I don't feel like an independent contractor when I almost have to accept every order that pops up

[@Kumugen]

@@PhoenixDeliveries It is like you know in the back of your mind that when you or anyone accepts a bad order, someone else is getting the better one or best one. Just too much of a negative versus the positive in terms of quality.

[@vincentnnyc]

come to nyc...u are guaranteed to make $29.93/active hr for door dash as of the beginning this week.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Dang that's awesome

[@toongamer2810]

I always wondered, how do you manage multiple food delivery apps? What happens if you get an order from one service and then another asks you to deliver something? It'll register as you not heading towards the order on the 2nd app right?

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I would just not accept the order from the 2nd app until the 1st order is complete to keep things simple

[@JohnnyWitchCat]

What’s your thoughts on if the tier program comes to your town? You won’t get LOP unless you’re over 70%.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I'd be happy to test out Platinum Dasher for the KZbin channel, but I think I'd probably make more money without it as long as I relied heavily on Uber Eats

[@kraft837]

Six hours of DoorDash Ing and I made seven dollars. Unbelievable June 1 was a total disaster. The orders were all coming in for two dollars. I had several orders coming in for three dollars and that’s it. The last order came in for seven dollars. I took it and I logged out I’m done June 1 worst most horrible day I can ever remember in delivering crap $7.06 hours 70 miles

[@Orlando_Steve]

$4.50 is "high pay" according to DD. Drivers can't quit DoorTrash soon enough! They are known thieves that have stolen driver pay. For God's sake QUIT DOORDASH!

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

It has to be at least $7 to be close to a high pay order in my opinion

[@Orlando_Steve]

@@PhoenixDeliveries $7 is the minimum I will take.

[@virgo4200]

exactly on dinner runs $7 min because i take into factor its dark apartments at night suck and take more time . DUring lunch runs the min i take is $6 half the time i wont take those unless the miles is right@@Orlando_Steve

[@wilberarthur11122]

It is unfortunately necessary for me. I need that flexibility of being able to dash when I want due to my schedule.

[@altonsteel5145]

Wow doordash just added $9.99 to my delivery says free won't use them ever again wow what a rip off...

[@CornTreeBean]

Unfortunately I'm 18 and can't use uber eats so if I want to keep delivering I need to bend to the whim of doordash

[@LannieLord]

How do you NOT have accidents DAILY ? Post Pandemic people drive like a-holes EVERYWHERE (It's 1000 times worse in NYC and the OUTSKIRTS of any BIG CITY). If I had to do this ; I'd want to be doing it in the Carolinas or the south. How do you NOT get red light camera tickets DAILY ? And ; when you bring your car in for inspection; Is there like a LONG list of things you need done because you've been doing so much driving ?? And what about NO PARKING ANYWHERE to pick up food ??? And what happens if the delivered food is COLD ? Do you get in trouble ???? McDonalds gets cold VERY VERY fast! And it's INEDIBLE when microwaved!!

[@MrRefractorman]

Once you get in the LOP are there any minimum requirements to stay in the program ? It doesn't make sense that low AR cherry pickers are still given those orders.

[@vikings7683]

Yes "Requirement 1: Quality Eligibility Criteria: you must meet the criteria below (measured as of the most recent full month). 200+ lifetime deliveries 100+ deliveries in the past month 4.7+ average star rating in the past month 95%+ completion rate in the past month Note: To remain eligible for this program, you must continue to meet these criteria after you are enrolled in this program. Eligibility criteria are subject to change. Requirement 2: Equipment: you need to have a standard catering bag You’ll need to confirm that you have the equipment to complete these high-value orders. See more details for catering bag standards below"

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

DoorDash says you have to maintain the same standards as you did to be approved for the program every month at the end of the month if you don't have the new rewards program

[@KevinMphotography]

Also, somethings, DoorDash will no longer put the plus by an amount and it turns out it’s a large dollar amount. I don’t know why they just don’t be transparent with the full amount.

[@Outdoors_and_Glam]

I will get “top priority “ and still don’t get orders. So to compare my friend does UE so we drove together and he was getting orders hand over fist! You don’t even have to decline to loose in algorithm..just ignoring it will! I’ve been sent 45 min across town on a 2.40 order! Arrrrrrg

[@jessicarussell2700]

The only benefit to being top dasher is the Dash Now feature. High AR you still get low dollars to high mileage offers.

[@nocturnus6]

DD is experimenting with giving dash now to all drivers with 50% AR. I saw that on driver mike's channel. I think he got it straight from DD via an email. I don't see many people talking about it. That would be a game changer.

[@jeffcann9159]

I’ve found cherry picking with DD and UberEats is by far the best strategy. Way less stress and you don’t feel forced to take garbage orders.

[@RD-ce6bb]

By far the best way ....Don't fall for the B.S.. "streaks and Top Dasher" My car does just fine depreciating on its own..Don't need Doordashes help with high mileage cheap offers.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Being free to take whatever orders you want is really nice

[@arresthillary9502]

they are desperate for drivers. take the best orders ONLY. what are they gonna do deactivate you? who cares. the whole world is going to deliveries. so go somewhere else

[@meatcranium4280]

Only good thing about top dasher is being able to dash anytime, or just do UBEREATS and work anytime with a10% acceptance

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Dash anytime is a solid perk, but I've been scheduling myself 6 days in advance and that has been working out pretty well

[@vikings7683]

@@PhoenixDeliveries That will also go away if you are under 50% AR in the tiered program

[@nocturnus6]

@@vikings7683 Is the tier program in you area? I want to know if you can still schedule 5 days out with the tier system.

[@jessicarussell2700]

Over saturation is a real problem! We all seen it!

[@torobands8730]

I was just at diamond it was lovely and now im at platinum it sucks i get bad order now even if its close u go to the restaurant they take 20 min to get your food now u made 2$ in half a hour

[@carolinejordan12]

I'm about to ditch DoorDash.

[@carolinejordan12]

Being a top Dasher is pointless.

[@austingomezfit]

The biggest issue with DoorDash (at least in my area) is that you have to be a top dasher to have access to "Dash Now". Otherwise you have to schedule dashing which is shit.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Yeah scheduling is difficult for a lot of people. I'm now choosing to schedule everything 6 days before to make sure I can work

[@virgo4200]

thats why you multiapp . i have a 13 percent AR on DD i use uber eats grub hub and instacart and spark to combat DD is scheduling crap

[@KevinMphotography]

That’s the only benefit to top dasher. But it’s not worth not making enough money by accepting orders just to get there. A two dollar order takes as long to deliver as a $10 order, so never take a two dollar order.

[@kbus2112]

Got $2.00 base pay instead of $2.50 here in Phoenix metro area today. Looks like they lowered our base pay. Could not get answers from dd. Curious if this happened in Scottsdale area today

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I’ll look out for that today

[@kbus2112]

@@PhoenixDeliveries yup. 13 orders $2.00 instead of $2.50. One order was $3.00 base. Took $6.00 out of my pocket.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

@@kbus2112 saw it too… crazy

[@Whimp827]

Whats ur currwnt acceptance rate? and what time do u start doing door dash?

[@achristiansworld8446]

Quick question how do you get into the program that allows you to take catering orders ?

[@shonevans2563]

You get a invitation

[@justashton255]

Wheres Jacob🧐

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I’ll be back in a few days 🙂

[@Tuxtrio_Tv]

You better hope the tier program dosen't come to your area.. you'll have to be 70% for LOP

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Lol I know. I'm kinda scared for when that happens. Uber Eats would probably always be my #1 app if that happens

[@lgrinaker]

@@PhoenixDeliveries I’m guessing there would be no more DD for you in that case, ;-). But that can be a part of the experiment too. What does it mean to use the DD app when in the lowest tier. Is it still helpful to use at all? Glad to see you’re in a market where Ubereats keeps you busy. Great to have para along with ubereats. Unfortunately, not much business through ubereats in my area. (I wonder how their fees to customers and restaurants compare to DD.)

[@jesseboudreau1547]

This just happened to me, right when I had previously tanked my AR. Had to raise it from 18% to above 70, Wasn’t fun. Would imagine the tier program will be nationwide soon. They send a email about 2 weeks prior, which was ample time to increase stats. Don’t know if I can keep my stats up, but luckily Uber is really solid out here, especially when you know how to activate the queue, I usually get equivalent to Large order program orders on Uber often as part of stacks on days I give it more of my time…

[@nocturnus6]

@@jesseboudreau1547 They didn't offer reset your AR? How mean they are.

[@jesseboudreau1547]

@@nocturnus6 I was not given a reset option. I had been given reset options in the previous month prior to the announcement of this new program, but not again prior to the program going live.

[@d_no_allyn_86]

How would you say you get these large orders? Just work more and once you finally get one they'll send you more? I don't think I've got one yet. Do you have to buy one of their catering bags with your personal code so they know you bought one? I think you were saying that in another video. Or that may have been another gig tuber.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I have a video on my channel that talks about this. Just search my name and then "large order program" and you'll learn the requirements for the program and everything else

[@jamiekulesa6592]

My acceptance rate is 94 but I don't let it go below 90 and believe me I don't accept every order

[@benchmark3332]

I believe you accept 94 out 100 orders they send you

[@corneliusjones1173]

Your taking some garbage at 94%

[@mikeymclucky]

I'm at 80% acceptance rate. Highest paying orders I'm seeing average around $6 Dollars

[@noramayers7671]

Don't turn down shop and deliver. The money is always above average.

[@pepsilove6306]

why do so many doordash creators call 5 dollars for 1.5 miles bad trips? is traffic like absolutely insane in yalls areas or something? In my area thats like a 3 maybe 5 minute trip. 10 tops if it the order isnt ready at pickup. they add up quick and great AR fluffers.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I can usually get an order for $7-$8 for that same 1.5 miles a minute after declining the $5 order. The $5 order might not be awful, but I'd rather accept something better

[@RD-ce6bb]

$5 for 1.5 miles is pretty good ... If you get them constantly it would total $30-$35 per hour

[@pepsilove6306]

@@PhoenixDeliveries suppose that makes sense, in my market ya could easily spend the next 30 minutes smacking the no button on 3 dollars for 11 miles orders, or just plain nothing. So usually if something pops up that 2 dollars a mile I jump on it, unless it involves chicken, then I'll smack No unless its 20 a mile cause I know imma wait 30 minutes at the resturant.

[@alexgonzalez7395]

Don’t forget that the more miles the more you can deduct . More money in your pocket. You can’t be scared to take orders with more miles as well. if you drive less miles and make more money then the government will take more from you. It’s a game! 😂

[@pepsilove6306]

@@alexgonzalez7395 thats what I usually tell myself and will do those short 1 dollar per mile orders sometimes, if the 1:1 takes me outta my zone i wanna be in tho, then its gotta be 2:1 to account for the return trip. only time ill take the really bad orders is if they go to nice neighborhoods, cause then I can pause my dash and hand out doorhangers to nearby houses for my lawncare business. make alil money and drum up abit of business for next mowing season.

[@nutsforjeeps1]

You should have to keep top dasher to get catering orders

[@Tuxtrio_Tv]

You have to in tier program

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

But if I don't have Top Dasher and still get catering orders I can make more money. So this strategy is the best for me

[@tdig6546]

me too @@PhoenixDeliveries

[@ericshiel]

I don't think people can really be angry with DoorDash simply because they are literally just taking advantage of the broken capitalist systems surrounding restaurants. At least in my area, restaurants pay servers like $4 an hour and expect customers to actually sustain employee salaries with tips. The saddest part is that dashers actually make less than the majority of servers simply due to factoring in mileage, vehicle maintenance, and unpredictability. It's a really disgusting and unethical system but that's why I do it purely as a side hustle for 10 hours a week. I can't imagine doing this full time like a lot of others, I've had weeks where I've made $200, and other weeks where I've made $100 with literally no difference in shifts, time worked, or market.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Doing this as a side hustle is the best way to go

[@martinrivera3619]

How many decline to 1% compared to how many Accepted to 1% ?

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Acceptance rate is based off of your last 100 offers sent to your phone

[@secretwitch66]

Doordash is not worth driving for anymore and found out they are being sued for stealing driver's tips!!!

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

It's definitely not worth it for some. It still makes me decent money most of the time

[@samueljones7495]

When you get the rewards program are you going to go back to maintaining 70%? As annoying as it will be when the day comes I'd imagine with as much money as catering orders pay it'll be worth it for you to stay at 70%.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I'd definitely go back to 70% to make videos about it, but it would definitely be a downgrade for me to go back to Top Dasher just to get catering orders. Uber Eats might be the way to go if the rewards program comes to my city

[@samueljones7495]

@@PhoenixDeliveries I think everyone is getting it eventually… I’ll be honest I want it in my area because I haven’t gotten into the LOP and I want an easy way to get those orders that you get haha. I’ve gotten a few catering orders despite not being in and one of them came out to $108. It’s crazy how much more money you can make with catering.

[@pepsilove6306]

@@samueljones7495 if you got a catering sized bag, just email them constantly. Its what I did, I just pestered them constantly I hit em with a email every monday and friday for a few weeks till finally someone onboarded me to it instead of crossing my fingers hoping for an invite.

[@lovejones5371]

Yeah they fired me while I was dashing because I wouldn't accept low paying orders I was a top dasher and everything like 2 days ago I got deactivated but it's all good

[@70mile]

How did you get deactivated for having a low acceptance rate?

[@verothomas1524]

What did DD do with the money we used to receive from high pay orders🤔

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Not sure

[@sirdon4956]

Only thing good about top dasher is u get to work any time u want no set schedue....and all of the top order High priorit,y pizza bag is all false.. for about 2 month i had none of that then i got every thing bag top dasher high Priority.. and guest what..? same amount of pay and orders... but i do notiice top dasher do get father miles per order..

[@jessicarussell2700]

It all varies with each market and it’s all a gamble! DD has volume but all the apps play games with drivers to move their orders. That’s why we multi app

[@clownanaround7996]

Thanks for content

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Thanks for watching!

[@cassandrafertahi1654]

Uber eats has sucked for me! I hate how it can send you anywhere i like to be in one zone!

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

January has been rough for me too! Hopefully it picks back up soon!

[@cassandrafertahi1654]

​@@PhoenixDeliveriesI pray so!

[@jeffholt2550]

Yeah, man, I gave up caring about a high acceptance rate. Way too many upside down orders. Not taking that BS.

[@popomimislil1917]

Yeah i was also wondering where he is.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I’ll be back in a few days 🙂

[@vka1751]

I think about 6 mos ago i commented this guy’s approach was bs. Now he has come around.

[@khaledal-refai7754]

Hey guys I have problem if anyone can help plz. One day I uninstall my dasher app and it told its gonna delete its data I uninstalled and then installed since that I I’m not receiving a lot of offers like waiting for half hour to receive one bad offer im using ios if u guys know the issue or how to solve it plz lmk

[@kennymmmKay]

1.5 miles for 4.50 is good in my market

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Every market is different

[@nocturnus6]

Same here. $4.50 for 1.5 miles is an awesome order in this area. This is the land of terrible orders, mind you.

[@kennymmmKay]

@@nocturnus6 yes I've noticed I make out ok in the morning and lunch but I stop at 1 because I've noticed that's when the no tippers wake up. Being top dasher does help get better orders but sometimes you got to take a shit order to keep ar up so you keep getting the good orders coming in. It's sucks taking a no tip order for 8 or 10 miles out of your way.

[@dylanjackson6107]

I’m top dasher.. and catering I get 1 every two weeks….

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Must not be a lot of catering orders near you

[@martinrivera3619]

Doortrash dropped my rating because they offered me trash like 2$ 4$ to go 14 miles out of the town back to back 5 in a row i have them screenshot. I can show you some are the same orders for less then the first offer

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Yeah it stinks when that happens. It's awful when they send the same order for less pay

[@hambone7181]

4 months ago you said being a top Dasher is better than you expected so witch is it?

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Both. Top Dasher is better than I expected and it is also not worth it for me

[@horacecomegna335]

As long as you cannot be penalized for your acceptance rate, I would just keep cherry picking until the cows came home! 😂😂😂

[@Nelson4207]

All these people who complain about sitting in their car I promise you they go home and sit on the couch and turn on the same internet app that they were just watching in the car 😆 People shop online, shot while sitting Gaming, game while waiting Talk to a girl, a boy a something What are ppl doing at home that they need to get there so bad that they take 2$ orders to not sit? 🤦 Bit im busy, you can take bologna to the homeless and stay busy, were talking employment, not volunteering

[@torobands8730]

And ive been at 5 percent b4 the worst actually i think 30% u get nothing but nickels and dimes I promise you have to just work that day dont look at the money just put your time in

[@verothomas1524]

The offers being sent are awful🙀. I got one $4.48for 16.1 miles

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

That's a low pay order right there

[@tdig6546]

decline now

[@nocturnus6]

LOL! That's par for course in this area. The orders have always been terrible, and now there's way more of them. Saw one last night, 25 miles for 4 dollars.

[@PawsAndProfoundFacts]

Top Dasher is the bigger scum that they figure out how to find idiots to deliver the no tip orders. I will never do that. Usually door does gives me c***** orders. But Uber Eats gives me the best orders. I make a lot more money with Uber Eats than doordash.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Uber Eats can be really solid for a lot of people!

[@markkoenig6315]

Are you using para?

[@ChurchForTheBroken]

For those who need dash now, I think cherry pick all month followed by one week of earn by time is a decent strategy. I find it hard to believe we can be independent contractors that have to schedule ahead of time. But that is another video…

[@ChurchForTheBroken]

Also, kudos for mentioning large order program. Whether or not you have it is a key piece of information for making your own decision for what is best for you.

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

Yes, I might still be in the diamond program if it weren't for the large orders I received

[@jenniferwinterbauer8884]

Nor do we have any decision making, they force you to take orders otherwise penalize you for it where you get less money. They drive you out somewhere out of your service area and do not pay for your way back, or if you don't want to take a 7 dollar order that will take up 40 minutes of your time and it's not financially suitable for you your impacted by it. That's not an independent contracting, it seems like I'm employed by them.

[@michaelu9182]

You take outback order they are stealing your tips, check into it it's not bullshit

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I'll look into it. The big orders from Outback have usually been good tips so I haven't considered that yet

[@Jflames23]

Nyc we make new wages now ❤ $30 per hour plus tips if your professional

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

That's a lot of money!

[@blahblahhhh2801]

People who order food…if you didn’t know drivers do fart in their car. You food may be contaminated 😂😂😂

[@PhoenixDeliveries]

I guess that's true, but most drivers use hot bags and seal them when delivering

[@RD-ce6bb]

Fart and burp👍

[@preciousunderwood1512]

Just like I'm sure cooks fart in the kitchen but you still go out and eat.

[@kleverAgudoMUSICai]

peopel in long islanc city are trashhh order from 10 mils away for 2 dollar tip... and they treathen you if you Dont Follow Orderss.. that when i wanted to eat their food or trow it away