Why I Only Use Stock Gateron Yellows

Imagine putting stock Gateron Yellows in a $500 keyboard. Now imagine doing it for 20. Weird but I gotta
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[@JYMV]

Hi all, I tried adding background music to make it a little easier to listen to. In hindsight, seems a little sensual, but let me know if I should keep or not!

[@travdump209]

it's something that you should definitely do in the future, it doesn't feel sensual, more comfortable, if that makes sense

[@PlanetComputer]

yes

[@hasaboard4825]

Most of the videos on youtube have bgm, so i don't see any problem here. It feels so relaxing too.

[@Sincald]

My loins remain unstirred, I think your music choice was safe enough

[@ol1mar]

tbh I always liked how theres no background music in your videos, i cant point my finger on it but I really like the way it sounds with your voice lol

[@harrison862]

It kind of sucks to limit yourself to gat yellows but it makes sense when you're trying to be as objective as possible reviewing boards. I really appreciate your vids and the way you approach things in this hobby. Looking forward to the sound test videos!

[@coffee1080]

theyre like the one switch that is tolerable "ALL THE TIME" you know?

[@exturkconner]

Gateron yellows make a lot of sense to use to eliminate variables when testing. And they are pretty good at everything. They are un-offensive in every way. They are solid, always available and usually one of the cheapest options you can get your hands on. I'm honestly surprised more reviewers don't do this. Reviewing every board with yellows in them first would go along ways to giving you measuring points. What board adds what sound. You can't really say if nothing about two builds is the same. But if the caps and the switches are the same then you know it's down to the case and mounting.

[@toufusoup]

Massive preach on the whole “sound test I listened to = keyboard bad/good.” Too many people go around linking a popular sound test saying this board sounded good, replicate the build, then come up disappointed. I made a vid as well back in the day just comparing how two different microphones could drastically “change” acoustics. I’m still surprised at how different it may be.

[@ethanoux10]

The man, the myth, the tofu himself

[@toufusoup]

@@ethanoux10 Always been here, glad to see ya

[@hali4045]

you just gotta know how to type out the blacksimon spreadsheet really fast

[@PaulusLai]

Nah, it's not weird. It's your part of your test standards and I respect that because it helps you form your conclusions about each board.

[@hali4045]

jwk comes and goes but we always need a classic; godspeed gateron

[@DonTonberry21]

gateron gang

[@TheHabadababa]

Godspeed Gateron Sounds like a switch corsair would use on a keyboard that you could actuate by sneezing on the opposite side of the room

[@eazydeezy5324]

Lmao

[@ceementality]

Hi Hali

[@chunkymilk1288]

*this post was made by the Gateron gang*

[@hardstones17]

YES, gateron yellows are my favorite too. I use them for all my builds especially cause of the unique spring profile that is not found in many other switches. they are right in that perfect spot of not being too light like reds, nor too heavy like black's.

[@osirusj275]

how bout gateron silent yellow, does it have same feel?

[@andrewy2830]

1:50 "that would add up quickly for the 36 keyboards I have" the WHAT NOW

[@prokopf-9332]

In only little over a year LOL. This hobby really consumes your soul, wallet and storage space like wildfire.

[@xentik]

the music is nice! the video as a whole makes a ton of sense and is really well made, good job!

[@Sarius59231]

Now I feel proud of choosing Gatreon yellows. I didn't lubed them yet, still waiting for films to come. My first build btw

[@IOSam]

Makes perfect sense! I highly appreciate the effort to maintain the control element in these comparisons (especially considering the PITA you have to go through to desolder them later if you want to replace them with nicer switches).

[@HipyoTech]

Enthusiasts: noooo you gotta use frankenswitches and jwk recolors JYMV: haha gateron yellows go brrrrrrrr

[@AnzelLmao]

Love the transparency and detail in this video, I feel like this is something people don't take into account. And regarding sound tests, I also strongly agree with you there, and have tried far too many times helping newcomers understand that they most likely won't get a board that emanates "Fjell with lubed Holy Pandas Typing Sounds (retest)" energy. But at the same time have to deal with people who parrot "sound tests are not references" and dismiss any potential value they may hold. People really like to operate in absolutes sometimes and it's exhausting.

[@snakeatwar]

Honestly, if you're going to go with any mass produced linear, the Gat Yellows are the way to go. They are my personal favorite because I like the more steeper pressure curve (more consistent pressure throughout the press) vs other linears, and they are reasonably smooth without lube, especially the SMD version. And you also make a lot of great points about consistency as well. Fantastic video!

[@ritzbm]

man the background music is great! imo makes the video seem much more professional and clean

[@Instinct0425]

The consistency part makes perfect sense to me

[@primarkbargainbin9847]

Thank you for your contribution to the community!

[@lordmoleiv]

This is an amazingly scientific approach to the hobby, and I honestly appreciate it. It was a really awesome video to watch with a lot of considerations I've never heard others consider. Great Job. Get my sub.

[@im_skrunkly]

You bring up some really good points. For me, I only have one keyboard that I slowly upgrade over the years so I take a different approach, but you did a good job of explaining why you do things this way. Good video.

[@joshuajackson5654]

Testing and price aside, I like lubed Gateron milky top yellows better than any other switch. The fact that they're less than half and sometimes less than a quarter the cost of "higher end" switches just makes them even better.

[@HeSo_71]

We all have our reasons to stick/have a fav switch no matter what people say, its preference. *Cough I have mx browns on all of my boards cough*

[@prokopf-9332]

Yes officer, this guy right here!

[@sviz]

Idk if its just me but I found this video very calming, you speak in a very professional manner and everything is just reasonable. Not aggressive, but not passive.

[@forevergaming546]

Love your analytic and extremely detailed approach to reviewing keyboards!!

[@XYERESIC]

"I'm not going to claim they're the best switch around" The title: the best switch

[@NDayOnline]

Exceptionally thoughtful video. Thanks for the explanation!

[@ertyu8574]

The effort you out into your videos is crazy. Big props.

[@Gearsandco]

if these switches are filmed and lubed they give an amazing results.

[@whiffysole]

Referring to your point at 4:12 about switch wear, after making a device that presses a switch 1 million times - in this case a Gateron Yellow - , I haven't noticed a discernible difference in the feel compared to a stock Gateron Yellow from the same batch. I want to try other switches which people claim to improve after a wear-in period like Creams before I make any conclusions though.

[@ikt32]

It kinda depends on your keycaps. I've got a Gateron Yellow I've used for 3 years, recently I swapped keycaps to something thinner (for another Gateron Yellow build) and the thinner keycaps accentuated the grittier feel and sound on the less-often used switches. Just pressing the naked switches also confirmed this, but throwing back the usual keycaps on muffled the difference. But yeah, wearing them in does do *something* and it can be felt if you look for it, but versus lubed switches it's not really that significant.

[@illitero]

I've never heard of lubed switches having issues with glide. I never considered it, but it makes perfect sense if it dries out or becomes contaminated with dust ingress - especially in the excessively light layers that are applied. Compound that with the thin viscosity of boutique products that are used and I guess that's begging for issues of consistency and longevity. This video gave reason to my resistance to the lubrication rabbit hole, haha. All of the lubrication I've done to all components has been with the same 20-30 year-old tube of dielectric grease that my father used in his business of electronic repair. It's designed for use in motion assemblies for tape decks, so it's formulated specifically to resist drying out in under ambient heat and moving air while in use on wide contact tracks on both plastic and metal. I've always been liberal and lazy in application but only ever noticed an _increase_ in smoothness and sound dampening that plateaus after a week or so of use. About 4-5 years ago I installed Gateron Greens into a Logitech G610. I did a sloppy lube job on them and they felt/sounded fantastic outside of the horrid clatter. Given the hinted disgust for click jackets and the garbage keycap quality, I only touch it a couple times a year for MAYBE an hour at a time; but every time I do, it's always felt consistently good. This is all anecdotal, but given my success with such little effort and expense, I'm genuinely surprised how I've never seen anyone promoting a less arduous product/process.

[@bloo_genes5073]

thank you for your scientific contribution

[@WorldLaughsWithYou]

I've tried most of the hype switches on the market. I still love gat yellows. People need to realize price =/ quality. I've had bad batches of zeal switches many times.

[@CowCatwithafancyHat]

The flex of that 60% 0:35 was concerning

[@lillyhunt3450]

thank you for this video. I just got a new (pft it's actually my first) keyboard with gat yellows and I was a bit concerned at first because I had no idea what I was buying. I'm buying it for school rather than gaming because I'm not a gamer. So this video really helped me understand what I was buying so thankyou.

[@Oozaru85]

Just bought 3 packs of the Milky Yellow Pro on Ali for €6 per box (bundle discount). Can't wait to test them and see how they sound.

[@Aldarris]

The Gamer's Nexus of keebs, props to you for sticking to consistency and ruling out variables to make the most out of your reviews.

[@ziting5756]

Man you have to be one of the most underated review channels on youtube.

[@iitzfizz]

I'm gonna go with yellows for my next build if I go linear. I have an SK61 rn (optical pcb) and wish they did yellow optical gaterons of the same weight, for some reason the yellow opticals are 35g :/ it doesn't really make sense since their other switches be optical or mx are the same weight. They have the same pre travel and everything else but just are 15g lighter. Maybe I'll get the yellows and spring swap with some 50g springs. But I too prefer tactiles and I may go with one of the Akko switches yet.

[@Donbros]

Honestly I would buy jwks and not lube them. Gat yellows are a bit too much on low end not to get lube threatment while jwk are fine unlubed though of course nicer lubed. You can buy thousand of jwk switches, it will be for like 15 boards. Also alpacas, mauves, h1 will stay I would guess. Is it more expensive? Yes. But it will let you enjoy he board more

[@kabloom6776]

There’s also AKKO Red Rose which are a little cheaper and I’ve heard from reviews that they dom’t sound bad stock.

[@ciaojay7025]

Most of Akko switches doesn't sound bad. They're also pretty cheap

[@sethv4601]

I gotta say, gateron yellows are my favorite linear switch, but Milky housing is a must if I am not going to hand lube them.

[@kanskejonasidag1]

Interesting. I also prefer tactiles, even in higher-end boards. I always feel like I'm sort of a minority when it comes to that, most people say they "move on from tactiles" as they get deeper into the hobby. What are your favourite switches then? :) Great video btw!

[@houghwhite411]

I actually like browns and type faster on them. I'm a light touch

[@joreensoller1139]

Basically, gateron yellows serves as your baseline so that you can somehow have a subjective basis for comparing each keyboard as opposed to using a different switch for each new keyb which blurs the comparison between keyboards because it changes the experience. This is also great since most of us only have access to gat yellows since its budget friendly and would have a real world reference to what you're describing on your videos. Well.. preach! that's actually a great and thoughtful idea :)

[@looppp]

I only use Boba u4t for my builds. Takes the guess work out, and makes buying/lubing switches a breeze.

[@jammies701]

This makes a lot of sense. It’s pretty annoying to me how hard it is to compare keyboard reviews since such important elements of the keyboard are completely different between reviews

[@godofchaoskhorne5043]

I use black ink v2 on my most used keyboard, started using them aftet trying stock yellows. I had crystal box pinks in my second most used board. Lining black ink V2s was such a hellish job the first time I didn't want to bother with yellows. It's the only think o hate about linear switches. Lubing. But for the past few days I've bene lubing a handful of yellows a day because I'm sick and tired of the pinks on my other board. Man yellows are great esp when lubed

[@_sqrrl3299]

The german keeb community did a group buy on these for 9c a switch. Wasn't quick enough to jump on sadly, they reached 10k switches in 2 hours lol.

[@fengrr]

I figured that would be your explanation. Hmm, You could do reviews with the same exact set of yellow switches. Then put other switches in boards you've previously reviewed.

[@mingchan9228]

Tactile gang rise up!

[@jasonreviews]

they have silent gaterons. I did typing test with silent gateron optical yellows. They're really quiet. You can just get gk61 50 bucks then add another 35 for gateron silent any color. opticals. Then pop in no solder.

[@spidermain]

You seem to have completely missed the point of the video, "tech reviewer".

[@fenixlolnope361]

I really only build alps boards at this point tbh lmao

[@JPF224]

I appreciate your scientific approach keep up the good work 👍

[@metallitech]

If you want the lightest plastic-friendly lube then "WD-40 Specialist High Performance Silicone Lubricant" might be worth a try.

[@weirdguy9659]

spray lube is a no-no in my dictionary

[@jussimattsen4583]

Gateron Yellows are the best budget linear. Perfect choice.

[@bbuuii88]

Oh gateron yellow lover theres a switch called gateron x it's what if gateron yellow had tangie smoothnest.

[@LiamsCR]

I have gat blacks which I love but I think gat yellows are S tier, using on em my next board

[@short7066]

Nothing will sound better than Outemu blues.

[@oFuRiOuS]

Fair enough I love my gateron yellows too great video

[@abmeight08]

Your stock gat yellow is my stock kailh box red.

[@2009slmlm]

gat yellows pro are the best mass produced switches imo

[@Doty6String]

So I thought music gear consumers were nerdy and obsessive...we’ve met out match lol.

[@cart.t]

i was thinking it was because of the g-pro series

[@axxdrian]

Anyone shuffling their switches at the very least periodically to introduce even switch wear? I do it once every month, not even kidding, I also use it to fully clean the whole board.

[@aminmw5258]

I mean like that what mechanical keyboard is about.. finding your best one!

[@KFC-Warrior]

Is there something special about the milky tops vs say the clear tops versions of the yellows, which are much more readily available?

[@aidengoff2862]

im going to use gateron yellows when polaris v2 drops because I am going to spend all my money on the actual keyboard and the gmk handarbeit pre order

[@ravenbirde]

makes sense!! i just like trying new switches because i have no respect for my wallet

[@gvnady8380]

I see you watch Tech Jesus, what a man of culture

[@miguelxd7878]

Why a small 5g difference between red ones and yellow makes everybody recommend those instead?

[@shiolei]

True keyboard scientist at work!

[@halfling_barista]

Nicely edited vid

[@CaseyJones88]

Gat yellows are my first mech switches and only downside for me is that they feel too light on press. Using them in GK61.

[@besayan2764]

Would you recommend a gat brown instead ?

[@Sincald]

Of course it makes sense that you'd be a Gamers Nexus viewer, given how conscious you seem to be about variables in testing 👍 This sounds like a 2-way ego stroke but I really don't mean it to be lmao

[@omzxa8415]

did you change your mind about them after 2 years ?

[@TurboZarya]

It makes sense if you're a reviewer or keyboard content creator, but for most of us it doesn't really matter.

[@seasn5553]

ight this is treason

[@nuudul7639]

if you are afraid of overlubing and want something cheap and available, why not just use box blacks?

[@JYMV]

Box blacks I feel are not as representative of "regular" mx style switches. Also despite what kailh and novelkeys says, I've experienced keycap stem breakage and stretching with box switches so I don't use them at all

[@iNViSiBiLiTi]

How many gateron yellows have you used thus far? Any variance in the smoothness?

[@MrAshar101]

Short answer its for science

[@Porighe]

Did you noticed any ping/squeak sound in your gat yellows? Mine have this weird issue.

[@JYMV]

I get them on a couple of the switches, but not many

[@jarredcannon]

Are those stock yellows? Or are they milky tops and black bottom housings? (It really looks like the latter)

[@PKAWA]

Could you tell me which is the best 75% keyboard with hot swap sockets and rgb? The GMMK pro comes to mind but perhaps there's better and maybe even wireless options.

[@besayan2764]

I have red switches but they are soft and i have typos often , I want to get a new keyboard, and I wm confused between gateron yellows and brown. Please suggest what should I choose.

[@Zeioth]

No problem with having yellows on an expensive keyboard. 99% of switches out there is either PC (polycarbonate) or nylon. There's literally zero difference betwenen linear switches apart from spring weight. Ignore all those sponsored reviews. That said, we have some cool innovation out there like the yellow caps V2. I love how they radically re-made how switches work to reduce surface of friction, and few other things people normally complain about other switches. Caps V2 deserve justice.

[@br0k3r11]

any silent optical switches?

[@DogeyMan69]

i agree it is the best.

[@jackasmr1549]

Can you do mouth sounds and tapping next?

[@AbirZenith]

With the Akko switches now in market, I guess this is no longer a valid video ?

[@Gandi2000]

Gat yellows 💛

[@OskarSvan]

Planning on getting the akko 3082, should I get the yellows or oranges?

[@DanmTheSystem]

Milky top vs KS3 Gateron Yellow?

[@paulpeterson1324]

Hello, does anyone know if you can feel the click of the button or if they are like reds

[@Subbmerged]

next title : why i am disgusting

[@mrhaths]

what would you say your favorite linear switch is?

[@ninawayyy]

literally a monk and i agree

[@5280carspotting]

the thumbnail is actually wrong. There is no "best" keyboard switch. Glarses made a video on this. Switches are all based on preference there is no best

[@ryanhtran]

did you watch the video?

[@chrisdotdash5154]

Why does no one talk about Kailh Speed Silvers?

[@pipiko777]

Any light tactile switches you would like to recommend :-p?

[@masondear8016]

Only thing I can think of off the top of my head are dragonfruit or pewter and those are kinda pricey

[@masondear8016]

U could also try Frankenswitching as well

[@jvniprbrry]

Idk I feel like kailh copper and pro purple are pretty good, but I've only really tried mostly linears and heavy tactiles

[@pipiko777]

@@masondear8016 thanks man I’ll check them out

[@pipiko777]

@@jvniprbrry thanks!

[@Fred-ny8jm]

Do you think that have to lube the gataron pro yellow?

[@anonymouse9593]

why get a 500$ keyboard and not lube your switches.

[@JYMV]

Hey, here's a video explaining why kzbin.info/www/bejne/iajVen6kmtmBhac

[@okky2044]

how about new version gateron pro yellow, is interference on cherry keycaps issue still happen?

[@huunhanle3809]

Aye it's still have the interference issue.

[@lipbombs4651]

what do oyu shop on