I know your reasoning is yours, but it seems a bit of a stretch. It gives me not carrying one in the chamber vibes. I trust the GPT so much it is in my duty carry and backup duty carry. Had it for 2 months and approaching 3000 rounds
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
I love the trigger for sure and I always have one in the chamber for over 20 years...lol. I've carried the GPT EDC since it was introduced. But, if I can be honest...I only feel 85-90% sure that its safety is flawless. I have 4 GPTs in total. My competition and a few others all have the triggers installed. This idea of wanting absolute certainty only applies to my EDC's. I've shot over 8k rounds with the GP triggers. It works, but for me...it will remain in my training and competition guns. Respectfully...be safe in your duties.
@Libertarian_Neighbor4 ай бұрын
Had a massive failure of the GPT today at a competition. Dead trigger, tap rack, dead trigger, tap rack, pulled the trigger hard and it felt spongey then AD’d into the berm with no discernible break. Granted, I had about 700 rounds without cleaning the trigger (did a simple clean and lube of the slide at 300, but the GPT requires special maintenance).
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
@@Libertarian_Neighbor not sure what happen. I would surely send it back to glock for inspection. But, this is an example of why being the first is never good. Lucky this happen in a competition setting. Please keep me posted on the cause of the issue if discovered. Thank for sharing
@InkwellFoto4 ай бұрын
@@Libertarian_Neighbor sorry to hear about your experience.
@marcusjohnson36573 ай бұрын
😅@@Libertarian_Neighbor
@dayweeks84994 ай бұрын
This is what the firing pin safety are for
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
I'm aware...I still feel better carrying the stock trigger to be honest. I still use the GPT when training from a OWB holster
@ckim4202 ай бұрын
Thoughts on the Timney trigger?
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
@@ckim420 timney was the originator. Glock perfected their design. Timney give light strikes and poor trigger return. The GPT shots everytime and feels nice. So I will say with confidence that the Glock product is better.
@wessowell66165 ай бұрын
That seems like a bit of a stretch. M&P and the PDP are both pre cocked strikers and nobody is concerned about safety there.
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
I'm sure it works. But for me... it feels good knowing it's a sure thing. But for competition it's money with the right trigger shoe
@spaceman0632 ай бұрын
the Glock performance triggers are very much like those triggers that are commonly found in the M&P and PDP which I have not had any problems with so when the gpt came out I followed the directions cleaning, oiling and installing it and here nearly nine months later with no problems to report, practice, practice and practice even more as I do with all three brands and I assure you that no matter which platform you use you will become good no matter what!
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
@@spaceman063 you won't get any argument out of me. Thanks
@boomee782 ай бұрын
I just went through glock armorer school these triggers are not ment for ccw at all like the walthers are the trigger needs to be oild constantly
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
@@boomee78 Thank you for confirming my intuition and engineering sense. I know this system and I know for sure if you want the sure security of Glocks drop safety the oem trigger system must be used. With that said, I still love how the GPT transforms the Glocks. Thank you for the confirmation.
@ghostfitness56054 ай бұрын
Put the trigger back in. It's safe
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
I'm sure it is. Thanks
@ShooterReview4 ай бұрын
I dont understand people saying, " You won't see/use your sights in a self-defense encounter." This is why we train to develop muscle memory etc. You moght not remember seeing your sights, but if you've trained extensively, I promise you'll use your sights as a natural reaction. I believe it was Wyatt Erpp who, when asked how he won so many actual gun fights, said, " I aleays saw and used my sights," which mean shots on target where the looser just fired quick and missed. Good video.
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
Respect... But within 7 yards or more I doubt if you will see your sights or get out of your holster as fast as you would with a non threatening/ steel or paper target that won't shoot you back or charge after you with something that could potential harm you severely. Quotes from ones book won't help you nor do I want to put their theories to the test. Peace
@ShooterReview4 ай бұрын
@Gypsyman40 eith adrenaline pumping and a life potentially on the line the focus won't be just getting shots off, it's stopping the threat and the best, fastest way to fo that is getting sights on target. If " spray and pray" works, then so be it. But , rather have it ingrained in me " no sights, no stop"
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
@@ShooterReview I totally respect your opinion. Be safe...
@ShooterReview4 ай бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 same here, brother ✊️🤝
@spaceman0632 ай бұрын
@@ShooterReview As Mike Tyson is often quoted as saying all the training in the world is a good thing and may even help until reality hits you in the face with a fist so one never knows what one may do in such dire circumstances until it actually happens!
@NineteenEighty-Four3 ай бұрын
It's thoroughly drop safe. As long as you keep everything else stock, you'll never have a problem to worry about. Just be sure to follow the instructions and keep it lubed.
@Gypsyman403 ай бұрын
Agreed... But just maybe... Lol. Thanks for the comment
@NineteenEighty-Four3 ай бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 Keep up the good work 👍
@Gypsyman403 ай бұрын
@@NineteenEighty-Four will do...
@spaceman0632 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@robertsalyers13514 ай бұрын
Great information. Thanks for sharing your insight. I normally keep all my Glocks stock. The only thing I've changed is maybe a red dot but I'm not really a red dot guy, I'm old school OG Iron sights
@donalgoan50834 ай бұрын
I carry the G45 as well but i have the overwatch TAC which is np3 coated and easier to clean. Pulls at 4 lbs and is designed for ccw. 100% dependable.
@Gypsyman403 ай бұрын
I love the G45 platform. Balance, feel, control and size. It just makes sense
@Gunsfornewbies4 ай бұрын
Great video. There’s always complications with brand new products in my opinion you see that in every industry so I think you have a great point.
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
Thank you and that was my point. I still enjoy the GPT.
@eyesnearstactical5 ай бұрын
Interesting insight thanks for sharing. 👍🏾
@cometcal217 күн бұрын
The resistance in the stock trigger was meant to take the place of an external safety
@Gypsyman4016 күн бұрын
it gives time to make the right choice for sure
@mctourer55493 ай бұрын
I am glad you brought up how well the Glock 26 shoots, i like my G26 as well, i shoot the G26 as well if not better sometimes than my G19.
@Gypsyman403 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you. Make sense though because you thumb is so much closer to the front of the gun. I enjoy my G26 alot surprisely.
@BAD_GRIM2 ай бұрын
I have the same findings and been saying this for years i shoot the 26 better than the 19. I carry the 19 more tho for more rounds
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
@@BAD_GRIM yep... We are right... Lol... G26 is a great shoot
@douglasphillips24Ай бұрын
Same here. Love the OG Glock 26 in Gen 5 and flush mag for EDC. 15 Rd back up mag also , cause at that point why not?
@Gypsyman40Ай бұрын
@@douglasphillips24 It's definitely a good shoot. Has everything to do with the grip over and to the front of the gun. Thanks for the comment
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
Right on bro. I'm with you on that
@PracticalMinimalist22 күн бұрын
Trust Glock. Nothing is tested more than a Glock.
@essvd252418 күн бұрын
The GPT is literally a factory Glock trigger
@Gypsyman4016 күн бұрын
I trust most nothing and why chance it on a EDC
@Gypsyman4016 күн бұрын
It is but it's not suggested by Glock for EDC
@essvd252416 күн бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 don’t think they’ve ever said that, they say it’s not duty rated because the trigger pull is too light
@Gypsyman4016 күн бұрын
@@essvd2524 the GPT is too light for EDC as well to be honest
@boomee782 ай бұрын
From a person who has been in stressful situations you do use your sights
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
It is my profession to be in stressful situations and it all depends on the distance of the threat and how fast you need to stop said threat. You finding your sights will not be faster than me point shooting and that is if you remember using your sights which I doubt. Respectfully... P.S. I believe you may be local to me...we can always put this theory to the test and a range near us. Peace...
@ckim4202 ай бұрын
People have been saying that the Timney trigger is not drop safe for the same reason. I.e., the sear can drop when the trigger is not pulled since it's not attached to the cruciform and thus not held up by the shelf. The firing pin safety should prevent a discharge, but I agree that it doesn't seem as safe as the original design.
@spaceman0632 ай бұрын
Out of not paying attention of where i was laying my g19 with the gpt installed months ago it fell from the table and hit the concrete hard and didn't go off, truth to tell I wasn't even thinking about that as much as I was worried that my Holosun eps was broken but it seems that it was good to go too!
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
It isn't as safe as the original in theory. I'm sure its safe because glock made it until it not. Go figure...Competition it will stay for me
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
An expected result of safety...
@chicagosouthside32615 ай бұрын
I have the glock performance trigger on the 19 gen 5, 19x and 45 because the stock trigger is very gritty like that FN509 and I hate it thats what made to switch out the stock trigger to the performance trigger and I haven't looked back
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
Yes. I love the GPT as well. To be honest... in the unfortunate event of having to use your EDC, and I hope this day never comes, you will not feel if your trigger feels gritty... Lol. Respect...
@nusdogg3 ай бұрын
I have the Overwatch TAC trigger (Polished Trigger Bar), 3lbs Ghost Edge Connector, and polished my OEM Glock Plunger on Gen5 Glock19 MOS. I 100% trust this setup on my Glock. 🤘
@Gypsyman403 ай бұрын
sounds cool. How many rounds has been thru it?
@nusdogg3 ай бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 So far 100 RDS since it was recently installed. I will be getting back out there this coming up weekend.
@Gypsyman403 ай бұрын
@@nusdogg cool... Let me know how that goes. Respect
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
Well to be honest, there is definitely a difference in the trigger weight and feel when comparing the two. Remember it's about disturbing the front sight or dot less. The GPT does this and the follow up shots should be faster. In my experience... Respectfully
@MakeAndFixItYourSelfProjectsАй бұрын
Man might consider doing the Alpha Trigger, it uses the same Glock parts except the trigger, it has all the Glock safeties, but the trigger break is the same
@Gypsyman40Ай бұрын
If you are referring to the timney system I definitely would reconsider that idea. Too many videos on youtube on the light primer strikes.
@ArmedArabTV5 ай бұрын
Is that a tymney alpha trigger or performance glock trigger because theres an absolute difference the glock performance trigger pulls around 4.5lbs vs the tymney alpha trigger which pulls at 2lbs in some glocks but usually in that 2.5-3lb range also the tymney alpha trigger which im sure is what your recording is made for competition use and not for edc so i as well would be scared shit less if i carried that i own the gen 5 26 as well as glock 45 and run the apex tactical trigger in both zero malfunctions and both pull at 3.5lbs perfect for edc and not worried about cheddar bobbing. ‼️‼️
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
Right...Its me... Not the GPT. To be honest, I feel souch better having the oem trigger in my edc's
@JimmyNindrix2 ай бұрын
If an upgrade makes you less confident then it’s not really an upgrade.
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
It depends on the how you are going to use it. For competition, the performance trigger is great. It is not made for EDC even though you can EDC it if you like.
@mr.blanco67635 ай бұрын
Check out the falix. I use the GPT from Overwatch. It was entirely coated in NP3. It feels amazing
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
Will do
@user-jg5gt5rg7t2 ай бұрын
I'm on that same exact tip bro. look up the 25 cent Glock trigger upgrade. I did it to my 26 and it is worlds smoother than my 43x. They felt similar before I did it and now it feels like a half a pound lighter but way more butter start to finish.
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
Exactly...
@jeffreyfales73432 ай бұрын
The trigger is made by glock so y do u trust onee their triggers and not the other
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
I trust the Glock trigger, but even Glock says it is not for EDC. It's a competition trigger and I love it for that application.
@kanejakejimmy4 күн бұрын
I'm with you on this. Ran mine for a month with an Overwatch Precision Polydat shoe. Liked it a lot. Never felt comfortable with it. Now I only use it when I zero red dots. It does tighten my groups. But if I don't trust it? Then it doesn't matter.
@beansbeansbeans402512 күн бұрын
For my work guns a Glock 17 and 19 I use OEM. All of my other Glocks I use GPT with the exception of my 34. I don’t think there is an issue with the GPT.
@Gypsyman407 күн бұрын
No issue at all if you use it for its intended use which is competition. I love it in my setup
@zenryder195920 күн бұрын
I’m with you. I’d avoid the Timney for the same reason. For EDC I’d stick to Apex or Overwatch (which supposedly are the only two aftermarket triggers accepted for duty use by police departments).
@essvd252418 күн бұрын
Except the actual Glock trigger lmao
@Gypsyman4016 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info
@Gypsyman4016 күн бұрын
It works thought...
@SOTGMarineАй бұрын
I did the same thing for the same reason…
@Gypsyman40Ай бұрын
Why take chances...Respect
@kendric985 ай бұрын
Put a dot connector in the performances trigger.
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
The GPT comes with the dot connector, which only applies to the weight of the trigger pull. I enjoy the light pull it has. Thanks though
@michaelhodges83125 ай бұрын
I have the McNally trigger assembly in all my Glocks. Never will I go back to the OEM trigger assembly.
@joeyc1866Ай бұрын
Hi Quick question Just purchased the Glock performance trigger everything looks good and it’s performing well but when I remove the slide to take the gun apart I notice that the side plate is making contact with the metal piece that holds the fire pin I have to pull it alittle hard for it to come out or just press the trigger just a little bit so that metal piece can have clearance Is this normal?
@Gypsyman40Ай бұрын
Yes, in order to take the gun apart with the GPT you must hold down the trigger. It will be alittle catchie the slide and frame but this is the way and its normal with this trigger. don't force anything...
@joeyc1866Ай бұрын
@@Gypsyman40actually the back plate it rubbing /touching the sear not the slide on the frame
@Gypsyman40Ай бұрын
@@joeyc1866 what generation glock did you put the trigger in?
@joeyc1866Ай бұрын
Glock 26 Gen 5
@joeyc1866Ай бұрын
@@Gypsyman40Glock 26 Gen 5
@AmbiguousKP23 күн бұрын
I would also have a hard time putting the pulled back sear aside in my mind with the gun in my britches 😅 Always wanted to try the Johnny Glock…
@Gypsyman4016 күн бұрын
Johnny knows his stuff but I wouldn't put his vex trigger shoe/GPT combo in an EDC
@AmbiguousKP13 күн бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 Same. Johnny doesn't use the thing so I wouldn't buy it either 😆
@BenRock823 ай бұрын
Is that a holoson scs? If so can you share what sights you used?
@gavincmurphy2 ай бұрын
Looks like AmeriGlo Troopers with a green front.
@BenRock822 ай бұрын
@@gavincmurphy Just picked up Trijicon HD XR for my Glock 49. Added the holoson scs. It looks great
@gavincmurphy2 ай бұрын
@@BenRock82 I like the idea of the SCS since you can use it with standard height sights. How do you like it so far?
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
Exactly...
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
I like the SCS for that reason, but I must say that the window is too small...better than nothing I guess.
@toddtzm3 ай бұрын
I have over 12000 rounds on my GPT G45 EDC from nightly COF training. It has lightened up from 4.12 to 3.11. After researching past few days the answer from the expert JG says the key is to use an OEM plus connector. It’s now on order along with a JG drop in kit as I heard fantastic reviews about it.
@Gypsyman403 ай бұрын
Mmm... That's interesting. Please let me know how the setup works for you.
@beforedeth210428 күн бұрын
Where do I get this oem plus connector? I’m getting a 4.5 gpt on unlimited for 77 shipped for my new g45 and would like it setup good and can’t afford JG stuff
@Gypsyman4028 күн бұрын
@@beforedeth2104 There is nothing wrong with the oem flat trigger shoe that comes with your GPT. You can get the oem plus connector from Glocks website. I would give a few other websites but Im not sponsored by any of them. With that said, check on NDZperformance.com as well.
@toddtzm28 күн бұрын
@@beforedeth2104 Midwestgunworks is where I bought one. It does make it a heavier pull.
@toddtzm28 күн бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 Installed this on my friends similar setup, whose trigger also lightened up. She didn't like the plus connector heavier pull so we bought her a new dot connector, the same one that ships with the GPT (5.5 pounds) and now it feels like the way it was when new. I am happy with my JG drop in kit so no longer using the GPT in mine.
@boomee782 ай бұрын
Gyspman the trigger is not for edc
@Gypsyman402 ай бұрын
Very clear and my point
@Dressed2KillTaye5 ай бұрын
Subscribed. Yeah alot of people saying them Triggers Faulty. Factory pretty good honestly.
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
It's true really... Give the Glock a totally different feel.
@Dressed2KillTaye5 ай бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 if it messing with Glock Perfection don't even waste you time my guy. Learn the OEM & call it a day.
@Gypsyman405 ай бұрын
@@Dressed2KillTaye I feel you homie. Respect...
@Dressed2KillTaye5 ай бұрын
@@Gypsyman40 Keep Grinding. I'm LOCKED IN! 🥂🙏🏾❤
@kalanipitmon78174 ай бұрын
Wanna put ine in my mr920
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
Can this be done i wonder...
@maxmccain89504 ай бұрын
If you ever get in a self defense gunfight you probably want that heavier trigger and won’t feel the weight of it anyway. Let’s pray that never happens. I also carry a G19/23/32 on a daily basis and have for 27 years.
@Gypsyman404 ай бұрын
totally agree. thanks for your comment
@ArmedArabTV5 ай бұрын
Also my opinion on GPT is straight “money gig” glock knows what there doing there’s literally lil to no difference between stock triggers so why not spend a extra $50-$100 and get something better but yea thats just my two cents maybe im wrong 🤷🏾♂️