Why I said "SCIENCE has No Place in Dog Training" and why many dog trainers agree

[@watchmoivies123]

I loved the part where you said there is a possibility that some dogs can be trained with cookies, and praise only but some of them cannot, and that is the darn honest truth some dogs are strong-willed, dominant working dogs, and some dogs were bred to sit on peoples laps. I truly believe they reached Dog is an individual and we need to be smart enough and knowledgeable enough to see what our dogs need thank you very much for this podcast. It was really phenomenal. You are an amazing man.

[@logansilva8017]

We need to be knowledgeable enough to realize what our dogs need. The resources - tools and freedom - to use effective training methods need to be available, and we need to be smart enough to correctly provide our dogs with what they need.

[@chikyuskincare4675]

I've applied Roberts techniques to my working line GSD as well as my adopted Mal, and I can't tell you how much the training has enhanced their current disposition. They are both strong willed, highly intelligent with a very strong prey drive and I refused from the very start of owning both, to have them run amuck. My GSD is now nearing 9 years of age and my Mal 5, and I have to say, they did not learn what they know through treats, but rather with firmness, correction when needed, solid commands and consistency. I think one of the biggest problems is the fact that all too often, people apply "human" feelings to dog behavior.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

thank you!!!

[@michelledistefano9434]

Tom Davis posted an amazing video where he talked with Dr. Stephanie Yue Cottee, an animal welfare scientist with a PhD in animal behavior and welfare science. It's a really long video but I honestly believe everyone should be watching it. She basically explains that the "science" these "science based dog trainers" talk about is not at all based on conclusive studies and that you could call it incomplete science at best, but are mostly based on surveys which has nothing to do with a real scientific study. They also talk about the problematic black and white view these "science based dog trainers" want to sell to dog owners and how they fail to mention, that balanced dog training is still like 98% positive reinforcement and not just beating your dog into submission all day long

[@chadstewart6581]

In my experience training a dog is like raising a child !!! You have to be fair… firm and consistent . If you fu(k up you will be punished if you do good you will be rewarded!! It’s that simple!!!!

[@LauraDAVEdavey]

I'm training my own assistance dog (service dog - we call them 'assistance' in the UK). I've had a lot of difficulty because all the AD training organisations in the UK are positive only, and so are all of the USA/CA ones I've found with videos online. My 7 month old working line Springer Spaniel puppy has been really difficult, but by setting very clear boundaries with him and firmly correcting undesirable behaviour I'm seeing his teenage behaviour get better every day, and building an amazing bond with him. I feel like it's really needed to harness this Ferrari of a dog, and what I'll end up with is a super confident dog that is very drivey to work, which is great for my purposes for an AD. The AD training organisations talk about how many dogs get 'washed' (removed from the AD programmes because they don't make the cut) and I worry that they're missing out on tons of amazing dogs because they will only use the ones that will come good from a very narrow style of training.

[@pepedestroyer5974]

Zak George vs Robert Cabral trying to rehabilitate a 60 kilo Rottweiler with Food Agression. I want to watch that.

[@deekayvixen]

Probably dangerous for Zak to even try to attempt that.

[@pepedestroyer5974]

​@@deekayvixenZak showed his rehabilitation techniques with a Welsh Corgi using cookies and treats. 😅😅😅

[@churchhymnsandpsalms]

Thank you for this. We had to return our ridgeback puppy because he was out of control: biting, pulling, jumping, scratching, ignoring everything we said…at 6 months and 90 lbs…because we were told by the ridgeback community and our breeder that purely positive was the only way. We bought Susan Garrett’s course where she says she never says no to a dog. I believe we could have trained him if we hadn’t bought into purely positive. He was ruining our lives…because we didn’t get the right information as new dog owners.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

I’m so sorry you were lied to. Breaks my heart.

[@churchhymnsandpsalms]

@@RobertCabralDogs it broke our hearts. He was hurting my wife and daughters. After we returned him we discovered you, Beckman, and others. We thought purely positive was the only way. Our breeder said “ridgebacks as a breed ONLY respond to positive training”.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

that is a GROSS LIE. I've trained several and have had great success with real training - not one sided. Sorry for your pain! @@churchhymnsandpsalms

[@churchhymnsandpsalms]

@@RobertCabralDogs thanks Robert.

[@SoulSacrificeBoy]

It's weird how the Ridgeback community is almost exclusively positive only. I was in your boat with my ridgeback puppy but luckily I found the real trainers in time. At 14 months he's the best behaved ridgeback IV ever met, but boy do the other ridgeback owners hate that I use a prong collar 😂 I know a lot of people who have surrendered their 6 month old Ridgeback because they couldn't handle them. They are let down by positive only people more than any other breed I can think of. But I think it's excellent you've realised the issue, a lot of people wouldn't.

[@rico4you]

⚠️ Thank you Robert for explaining so clearly what Truly is training / loving your Dog means ⚠️....EPIC video that all Dog Lovers should watch listen and learn 👍👋💪🙏

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Thanks so much

[@TeenyTheOne]

Most caring and loving trainer I know of, everything you do you do it heart. Thank you so much for all you've done and will do.

[@filipefaria898]

Great video as usual! Very wise and honest! Seems that most people should not have dogs, our generation got too soft and full of "fake respect" for the animals. Theirs needs are different from ours and true love is take care of them in a way they understand their "humam" environment. I am from Brazil, I have a female Corso and she is sweetest dog I know, but she needs to know her "place" to be calm and confident. You don't want to mess with a dog with that power and strength. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I am very happy to follow your channel. Have a great week!

[@PetPrepRadioShow]

I got in really late on this live, but I'm really glad that you were doing this topic! We really really appreciate you Robert! Love the new swag too! God bless you, and your family 🙏 Fur Family too!

[@whiskybrush3219]

One of the dogs i have had was a Berger Picard which a couple went to the Czech Republic to acquire, hoping they would get an agility champion from her breeding lines. Then they poceeded to leave her in a crate for the next 6 years of her life except when she was training. Did not make a champion. She could not carry a litter to term, had the attention span of a squirrel and igored her handlers. Picards do not take well to isolation and as amazing as they are at working, they need a strong bond to perform. That dog was quite a mess when she came to me, with several cutaneous conditions, severely malnourished, anxiety, not house trained and very prey driven. And she was the most incredible I had ever encountered in my life. Whip smart, fast, and driven. She was AMAZING. I would use her to herd my chickens when they jumped the enclosure. She chased off coyotes like it was nobody's business and would stop dead in her tracks and run back to me at the first recall. Any dog sport has the potential for cruelty. Because people are involved. People commit acts of cruelty towards animals regardless of legislation.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

thank you!

[@tanyalee7400]

Thank you for a netural opinion. As a dog owner, we try what works to our dog coz we want to live in happy and harmonic together. No one wants to walk their dog in the middle of night while no one is around. It should take whatever it takes to make our dog living happily together with human. When there is an issue, treat and hot dogs just don't work. And how long the dog lifes have 10 to 15 years. And we need to take years to fix... we also take away their happiness too.

[@Josephine-sm2db]

Well you may not be as educated as your wife, but you sure do an excellent job of educating us about dogs. Thank you so much.

[@amycolter5790]

Bravo!!! You're 💯 correct and have the right thing in the forefront...the dogs. Us trainers must come together for the sake of the dogs. Too many egos out there ultimately harming dogs. Thank you Robert ❣️

[@debbiiesiken2686]

I still like to compare dogs to people. Some dogs that have that "willingness" to please...like my first dog, a Sheltie...I told him something once...he had it down. Ha...I told myself what a good dog trainer I was...then we got a Labrador. She required way more repetition and work. She was the only dog I have had that I had a trainer come out to my house a few times. Some kids you lecture them once about not doing something...and they won't do it again. But then you have the kids that keep on doing the same thing over and over and with no consequences nowadays they keep on doing it. If a dog is very reactive , not listening ect then it is time to step it up a bit. Kids same thing. Not all dogs can be trained the same, and the same with kids.

[@daveskolnick9643]

Thank you, Robert for courageously taking a lead in confronting this subject! Science based, positive only people cant handle, and dont know how to fix and rehab the dogs balanced trainers rehab on a daily basis. So their go to responses are, "This dog is dangerous and cant be trusted! You need to put them down before they hurt or kill someone." So because their skill level and knowledge is so limited, you cant help, so you suggest and recommend death over exhausting other forms of proven techniques and methods????? And you say you love and care about dogs? If science based positive only worked, then owners wouldnt be calling us after 2 or 3 of you fail to help, and then they call us (balanced) as a last chance hope. Then we get the dog fixed! Go work in a flower shop! Or better yet, become a grave digger at a pet cemetery! Oh, and lastly, why is it you all criticize balanced methods, but when we challenge you to make videos showing your work to document how you would fix aggressive reactivity, you go quiet, and into avoidance mode? You never show your work! You act and sound like democrats who react the same way when confronted with corruption and Marxist questions! STOP LIEING TO THE PUBLIC! AND STOP GETTING DOGS KILLED!

[@OKLynnie]

The reason I respect and value your videos, podcast, etc is because you aren't constantly attacking other trainers and focusing on what they are doing. Alternatively, the reason I completely stopped following Zac and do not recommend him to anyone anymore. I agree that he's gone off the rails and it is sad.

[@rugeramerican308]

Zaks gone of the rails lately! I think a slip lead would be a good place to start

[@OKLynnie]

I always start my dogs with a slip lead, and then a flat collar and leash. @@rugeramerican308

[@DeanSmith3935]

100% Agree! Dogs must come first.

[@davidcarson375]

Robert I totally agree, I'd rather "correct" my dogs "properly" and in the right way rather than let them put themselves at risk. Balanced is the way I'd still say it. Positive reward when its right but also, correct whennit's called for. I have 2 GSD's both totally different drives. I can look at one to have control but need to be more "stern" with the other. There is no one size fits all answer.

[@debbiiesiken2686]

The dog we have now a doxie/pit rescue mix...he loves taking his toys into his crate and playing in their. It is like all of a sudden you hear all of this banging around...he is busy throwing his toys around inside the crate. With my first 2 dogs I did not believe in crates. I got smart after that. How many dogs have lost their home just because they chewed up something like the couch when the owner left to go to work or run an errand. Just so valuable at least during the puppy phase. I can't believe people don't believe in the "alpha" When we had our Australian Shepherd he made it clear that one of us was going to be "the boss" I told him, sorry but only one of us can be the boss...and it's not you. I did nickname him "boss boy" and I adored that dog. I knew though that in what they were bred to do that they had to have a little bit of that bossy attitude so I was prepared for that. That dog made me laugh the most out of all the dogs I have had..miss that boy! Thanks for all you do...the "only positive" trainers are driving me a little "batty" and it's nice to see that there are still some "common sense" dog trainers out there!

[@adavies6696]

So many good points. So many levels to digest. I though Dog daddy was a joke, I never took him seriously! Bit like Zak! Wouldn't trust either of them with my dog. I have a working line GSD, she is so smart, so loving so caring, but I admit she can be a sh** if she thinks she can get one over on you. I cant trust any stranger or someone I don't know with her (hey I don't trust some in my extended family with her). However, I can trust you! Why ? Your experienced, you know the breed, you talk so much sense you know how to read the breed. Yes your clearly confident, but this clearly comes from your experience and the immense time you've put into your passion. I know in my heart and in my head I can trust you with my dog! You are such an awesome person, and thank you for sharing so much content and education material. I want to meet more trainers like you. Go Team Cabral!

[@RobertCabralDogs]

thank you!!!

[@ItsSapphireNicole]

My dog! My Choice! My Belgian Malinois and I appreciate your videos so much! Thank you for your service to dogs and humans.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

You are so kind

[@ksdesjardins7194]

Absolutely amazing to me someone who is a dog trainer as their profession and also has a bachelors degree in communication how much the different points of view are stuck on semantics! So many trigger words and language that is twisted to support ideologies not real world dog training…. 🤦‍♂️☹️

[@markbrennan8971]

Love your passion for and your love of mans best friend the dog

[@alwayslearning9337]

Absolutely agree with your comment

[@jorgebertrangomez5060]

Hello Robert. J Bertran from Colombia. Excellent video as all your training lessons. You’re in my top 5 of dog trainers list.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Fantastic!

[@dragonleaderlee]

If I could give you a thousand thumbs up, I would. Well said! I try my best every session to teach my clients the same philosophy. Thank you. I hope to add my voice to the conversation very soon! Haha

[@deekayvixen]

There is a place for R+ only in training- average dogs with no issues, basic obedience, building a bond, teaching tricks and agility. But the R+ crowd seems to get it twisted thinking that this method should be used for all dogs, and in all situations. A little story: I adopted a young shy pitbull from a big city shelter. The volunteers were very motivated to get her adopted, because she was very shut down and scared, and also emaciated. We took this dog home and quickly realized that she has severe behavioral issues, extreme fearfulness, fear aggression, and severe reactivity. After she attacked and mouthed our resident dog, I reached out to the shelter volunteers, considering taking her back- not my best moment, but it is what it is. They connected me with one of the shelter trainers who said she could help. She was R+ and initially was responsive to my concerns, but as the dog decompressed, and the true behaviors came out, the trainer literally ghosted me. We attempted three more trainers, all R+, and one of them was legitimately scared of my dog. It was months of hell trying to live with this dog. I was finally able to find a balanced trainer (was not easy where I live) who showed us how to use positive reinforcement, but also corrections. We were finally able to communicate with our dog, her confidence has increased, and her reactivity has greatly been reduced. She was finally able to go for walks, and it wasn’t a disaster for both of us. We use a HS collar and most definitely say no, but we also carry a bag of treats and reward her abundantly. We’ve had our dog for 2 years now.

[@thankmelater1254]

Here's how I used flooding totally successfully in one session. I invented this approach myself. I adopted a troubled dog that had extreme fear of traffic, he had been lost, so may bee got in a scary situation. After a few attempts at letting him see road traffic from afar, soothing him for a hour, as he showed some discomfort, he would try to bolt home when I stood up and pull all the way like mad. So I reasoned that he was predicting trouble while not actually even close at all. He was predicting trouble by the direction were were headed straight for, before we settled for the session, far from the traffic. So next time I took him to the park out back and I walked him in a star-shape pattern until he was following mindlessly,totally brain-tired from the constant switching of direction. His prediction mind was turned off, so I walked in that same pattern all the way onto a VERY busy sidewalk at one entrance to the park, with trucks and buses whizzing by and he walked the sidewalk on loose leash, because he had no predicting to do as he was there already and nothing was happening. He got flooded with REALITY but it required switching off his trouble predicting mind first.

[@rugeramerican308]

Easiest way to discredit positive only trainers is to ask them, what would you do if you caught your kid stealing from a store? Offer them a candy bar?

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Some probably would.

[@BDTraining]

Well said!

[@allanhalberg4713]

Robert, you are cool! You are a balanced trailer like Cesar, DD, Larry Krohn, Nate Schoemer, Nino. You are all awesome. Balanced trainers! 💪

[@Armorakc]

All names you mentioned are quite legitimate but unfortunately DD is Dog Drama on Media, so he might be a good trainer but belongs to another class in my opinion ….

[@PACKBLADING]

setting the record straight. i so appreciate your work

[@RobertCabralDogs]

thank you!!!

[@markwilkins9048]

Robert, you hit the nail on the head, whether you realize it or not. Elitists use “science” to support their narrative. The majority of times someone claims “science” as their proof of concept or validation, is because they don’t have any real life, real world experience. It’s their default to claim expertise. YOU have real life experience training dogs. I’m sure you have learned through trial and error and evolved your training over the years. Imagine someone trying to sell you science as the basis for building a relationship with your partner. LOL. I’m no expert, but I’ve trained 3 GSD’s and and a mixed breed in my lifetime and I’ve come to learn the most important thing (in my opinion) is clear communication with my dog. I set the rules and boundaries,,,communicate those rules and boundaries and my dog so he/she clearly understands and we both live in harmony and happiness. Establish a clear and simple communication system with your dog, then reward positive behavior, correct negative behavior.

[@cherylgodding2339]

God Bless You Robert

[@primalcritters]

Zac George is terrifying.

[@deekayvixen]

All extremists are 🫣

[@judet3026]

The problem with the FF community is that they are co-opting 'science' to further their radical ideological agenda which is driven by misplaced animal rights sympathies. They fail to see the longterm harm they do with their radicalised vision of the world. As for the theatre of Dog Daddy - it is 'for social media promotion' in many ways - but underlying his success at reaching people is the real need of dog owners to find solutions. Having a reactive, aggressive dog whatever the underlying cause is very challenging - even distressing - so unless actual real world trainers can offer effective affordable solutions people will always be attracted to this kind of intervention. They are desperate. Your comment on use of sunglasses by DD is interesting as I see their use as the purposeful preventing of the development of a relationship with the subject dog as that is not what the handler wants in those initial moments of the intervention. Psychologically you want the dog to focus on their inner responses and not be seeking human direction by way of facial / eye contact. It's one aspect of the DD approach that could be very usefully studied scientifically for reactive dogs. It somehow lets the dog be just a dog in those moments before more long session training takes place. It's a technique that has some merit for panic attacks in humans per my own experience as a clinician. Just my thoughts.

[@peterschmidt7409]

Thank you for what you are doing. I read mrs. Pryors book, back than in german, bcs my englisch was horrible at that time: positiv bestärken, sanft erziehen. And i was like a religious converted about it. This was 1991. In the 80' , we had very heavy handed trainers, and e-collars had two numbers on their scale, strong and very strong, and i loathed that tool at that time. I was always very light handed with dogs, i love them. Obviously, not so much with people, i was a pro boxer, and a bouncer for 18 years, had an incredible amount of street fights and a very violent upbringing as well. But i always loved dogs and wouldn't ever harm them. But real life has thaught me, giving cookies and affection is not enough, every dog i trained was falling apart at times. And i thought this is my failure, i am simple not good enough and tried even harder to get good. Now, with trainers like you or Larry or Haz Othman, it comes all clear to me. The learning phase, the conditioning phase, the intermittend phase, and the proofing phase are now things that help ne to never forget where i am with this dog, and what he needs right now. Sadly, i live in Austria, and have to go underground when i use even the ever so slight stim on my dog with a mini educator. But this doesn't belong underground, it belongs to the light. I can go with three dogs without a leash literally everywhere, and all my dogs are happy outgoing simplygolucky ceeatures. For most of us dog owners, the name of the game is not to perform a hundred tricks on an empty field, but to have three or four commands that the dogs can do everywhere, under heavy distractions. I can call my dogs off from a squirrell, or cats, or other dogs always. Sadly, i am the only one in my surroundings that can provide his dogs this level of freedom, for i break the law and know what i do. Even the best positive only trainers here can not go where i go without a leash here in vienna. So the proof is in the pudding, or it would be, if those radicals once would show a little common sense and looking outside of their box just once.

[@trundle_the_tortoise]

Whats going on in Europe is ridiculous....im from Germany and have been to seminars of very famous trainers...if you go to their seminars in Germany they will tell you e-collars and prong collars are backwards bad things and wont show you how to use them....what they do is showing you other ways of training that will work to, but are much more complicated, ineffective and often cant be done by yourself If you are Not experienced enough...so i have to watch videos and buy online courses from people outside of europe, which learned how to use that tools from exact the same trainers at their abroad Seminars...

[@RobertCabralDogs]

yes, the European trainers are in a bad spot. if they admit that they use them, they can't compete. its a bad state of affairs.

[@trundle_the_tortoise]

@@RobertCabralDogs yes, it's really a shit Situation.

[@vernonharrison9431]

Just listened to your live broadcast. It was very enlightening, and I learned a lot, and it helped me in working with my Gsd. Would really like to have you train me to better train my dog.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Check out my online training at : robertcabral.com

[@Gulogulo314]

I can tell you care tremendously about dogs, and some of the statements you make at the end of this video are important: “when the cookies and love fail the dog…putting egos aside…and all of us uniting against dogs ending up in shelters…and uniting to get dogs in homes and stay in homes…” But the rest of this video is pretty silly. First of all, the sentiment of this catchphrase is obvious if someone is at all familiar with you, no need to make this video - it was even clear before a commenter on your Instagram post convinced you to add quotation marks around science, which makes it just marginally better. To someone not familiar to you, however, this sounds wildly ignorant, and for someone who believes in a force-free or “science-based” training philosophy, this is incredibly divisive. The fact that you try to say it was not intended as an “attempt to divide dog trainers” or “casting dispersions on people who use [R+/FF or believe in operant conditioning]” is disingenuous at best, but it looks a lot more like actively trying to stoke controversy and pandering to your base…probably for clicks and likes. Let’s call it what it is, this is exactly the kind of thing that increases polarization. You are a walking straw-man argument against balanced training 🤡 Stop trying to be a spokesperson.

[@inthebay]

What a great saying for a shirt….”my dog my choice” Thank you for all you do…clear..concise…explanations…👍

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Thanks for watching!

[@StrokeSlayer]

Thank you, IMMENSELY! #teamcabral 🐾❤️🐾

[@ErinWilke]

I completely agree with you, but I know a lot of people will hear this phrase and not give you the time of day to hear your full explanation. Its more like "real science-based training" or "bring real science back to dog training"

[@monahuntley3961]

When I started training under some professionals back in the '60s I was fortunate to study some very good trainers. Here is the definitions I got from one such trainer. "Training" the repetition of a behavior with whatever guides are necessary, until the animal understands what is required. Before you go any further you must repeat this procedure until the animal truly understands and reacts. If you have to put him back in a sitting position 200 times so be it. "Correction" The action taken to correct a break in directed behavior after you know the animal understands. Example, he starts to move after first obeying so you make a sharp correction. (with whatever works on this animal.) "Punishment" The animal suffers the direct consequences of deliberate misbehavior.. This will differ with every animal. It must be enough to convince the animal, be appropriate to that animal and may never include the loss of human self control.

[@BadmanDNB]

Nothing wrong with any trainer in my opinion if they are able to long term work. Actually Dog shelters are the cause of people thinking dogs are 'pets' and not dogs. Think about that. Show me a horse not trained with a whip.

[@joyceparks02]

Great upload! I’m still very new to this world of dog training and you explained things beautifully!

[@vinceking7651]

Great post Robert 👏 It's not nice that someone put you in a situation to talk about another dog trainer but people actually watch people like the dog daddy and copy so this is a big issue in social media and Zak is a rule to himself unfortunately and he's poison and lets hope you can bring people together because it's important for dogs who are a victim of people and the neglect because this is abuse and if it was a child,hmmm . Well like you or not I feel the same but I respect you so you are like because I wouldn't listen to you if I didn't like you or your caricature. The dog world is pretty messy but you are still going so well done you 👍👏🙏

[@KlixbyKelly1]

Thank you for your continuous efforts in keeping dog training REAL !

[@4g1vn]

We have a beagle that did the tampon thing & a little (

[@ksdesjardins7194]

Well said sir! Tell my clients the exact same stuff!!!

[@jessicahigdon3962]

Absolutely! I do not promote dog daddy. I don't even watch him. I have watched Zak, but with this silly argument of only positive, well, I'm not for that either. 100% there should not be abuse. I have children and they have been disciplined as children, but never abused. This is such a weird subject and it shouldn't be. There are always consequences that are unpleasant in all aspects of life. I follow your channel because you make sense. Common sense. Just plain common sense.

[@trainsdawgz]

Bravo!

[@rugeramerican308]

Also thanks for adressing dog daddy (I hate calling him that, makes me puke). I didnt like him from the moment i saw him. I was very dissapointed to see Beckman agree with his training

[@KFRogers263]

Great clarifications. Thank you!

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Thanks for watching!

[@OneYellowFlower]

I enjoy watching your content and the consideration and care you put into your discussions.

[@chadstewart6581]

People get confused these are animals not humans… Stop humanizing dogs!!!!! They are animals !! So treat them accordingly!

[@DogTrainerBehaviouristSilvia]

Thank you. Love your work 🐾

[@joeyfranklin4670]

100%correct in my opinion

[@eskimo3622]

great analogies.

[@zaneeltoro6412]

Masterpiece! Thank you for saying this

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@PLBS120000]

YingYang is 1 word. Night- day is one. I.e. good bad, where there is good there is bad. When there is day there is night. You can bot have one without the other. I.e there. Ant be good without bad. It is subjective to begin with. It's a personal perception. Positive for who, negative for who?

[@53lobosr]

Science behaviorist may claim all animals react the same, that is to believe dogs are just like any animal. There are levels of intelligence of different animals that is true. Dogs to my knowledge are the only group of animals that has developed into what we have today. Love, companionship, loyalty, are intense and as a group quite common. Dogs take abuse (sadly) and do not hold a grudge unless it is part of their everyday. They (trained properly) rarely need a correction. When the dog learns what is good dog vs. No they respond accordingly. I was once asked about how I was able to get my dog to repeat a task every time. I thought about it and had to say if my dog does not do what I command I would check him for injury. No force is necessary, no "punishments" required. Commands yes, direction and then correction yes.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

spot on!

[@susancourtney7717]

Anyone who has lived with a pack of dogs, observed packs of dogs and understands pack behavior and communication would clearly understand that treats are not a part of their social structure. Anyone can tell you that learning theory and “science” are the way to understand dog behavior. Don’t listen to those over thinking wannabees. Dogs will tell you the truth. That’s who you need to listen to.

[@robinbyrd4430]

Love your channel🐶🌺👍🏾

[@sylkebambilke1364]

Science is the method for gaining knowledge that is the basis for everything

[@entropicmomathome]

Im currently in bed with two fractures in my ankle caused by playing with my 8 month old Mal, he was running full speed towards me and it happened so quickly that I don’t even know how I ended up braking my ankle. Robert I’ve become a member of your website on and off and your ask me anything section has helped me tremendously with my mal , but I’m afraid I won’t be able to put up with his strength! I’m a petite 5.2” tall woman, I play rough with him, tug, chasing , frisbee, am I bound to keep getting injuries or is there a way I can teach him to play more calmly? I’ve tried ask these questions through ask me anything twice but they never get answered. I hope you can help, is there a way to pay you for an individual 30 minute zoom call? That would be amazing!! Thank you !

[@RobertCabralDogs]

All member questions submitted via the form are answered weekly. You can also send a request for a consultation .

[@SomeMinorDogTraining]

You are amazing! ❤️💕

[@margaretnorris5840]

Thank you

[@RobertCabralDogs]

You're welcome

[@donletendre1514]

❤

[@notlukas1981]

Please do a podcast episode with dog daddy, would love to hear that conversation, plus I think as with most people who share a goal but have different methods you would have more in common than intransitive. I also believe that it would be a good opportunity to delve into the details of where one might draw the line between what is an effective training method and what is unnecessary

[@RobertCabralDogs]

Noted!

[@HazellRahh]

Science has a place in everything, but when it comes to dog training, it takes a MAJOR back seat. If science were that important, only PhD's would be allowed to train dogs. We all know that's not the case. An analogy would be flying a plane: Science is important to fly a plane? NOPE! It's important to DESIGN one, not fly one.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

BRILLIANT. My point exactly!!!

[@OneYellowFlower]

“Least inhibitive” is a term commonly used in behavior analysis and any kind of human health care field. I don’t think it’ll eventually be non-inhibitive, because people who work with other aggressive people know that more intrusive interventions are needed at times to protect yourself, others, and the individual. People view their animals as their babies and want to protect them as a result. They think they’ll make things work for their dog like how people do for their kids. It’s possible to do that in some ways but not in others. We need to all recognize that dogs are a different species.

[@Aminah6623]

Positive reinforcement is only one aspect of behavior modification. Not sure why some dog trainers only prop up one aspect.

[@shirinw]

🙏

[@christiankraft2447]

The people promoting what your referring to are the same people that don't want to punish criminal behavior. How's that working out? Dogs are our responsibility. While I like them more than people, there is a hierarchy of value to be considered. A dog must be socialized well enough to be around people or they are not pets. We have animals that aren't social. They are referred to as wild. You teach your children if it has teeth, it bites if it has claws it scratches. It's really that simple. There is nothing more dangerous to Dogs than them not being domesticated. If the means get rough, we'll they are animals that require discipline because they can be dangerous

[@tabithalavallee]

We should be calling them pop collars not choke chains

[@travisressler1400]

I had new neighbors move in a year ago and their dog runs up and down the fence barking and growling at me and the kids. I plan on getting a new puppy how should i confront this problem with there dog

[@TheProchargedmopar]

The last couple generations of children that lack discipline and direction are a perfect example of....(Fill in the blank). If a human breaks the law or acts up its strait to the CORRECTIONAL facility. LOL

[@Aminah6623]

"Dogs watching Jerry Springer all day" LOL

[@Charlesgraydogtraining]

I'm waiting for the "scientists" to oppose gps trackers....it's an enfringement of a dogs human rights and a breach of personal data laws.....oh wait....what ?.....not humans you say ?................brb

[@BlueCollarBeerSnob]

science also means application…applying what science has proven into real world application

[@simonkempes585]

It’s mostly not science even, it’s statistics, carrying hidden assumptions (stress is bad right?), interpreted through a moral (thus not scientific!) framework. I see a lot of text-book warriors, discussing theoretical positions, applying this theoretical training all across the board because “science” said so. Well not all individual (dogs) will fit into your imaginary framework and let’s also not forget all the things you don’t learn from the textbooks (eye contact, relative body position, when to give and withhold attention, movement and lack thereof, bending and not to of the voice, and so on) are of immense influence. Let’s not even talk about controlling how to set expectations for your dog. I’ve seen kids around 8-12 with zero knowledge intuitively do pretty much everything right. And i see so many know it alls coming straight from the books doing everything messy wrong unclear,and leaving the dog floundering to figure out what it is theyre supposed to be doing right now. The quadrant and theoretical understanding thereof is truly only interesting if the basics and awareness are there for you. A way to gain a little more efficiency. Interesting for top trainers not average day pet owners. This obsession with the quadrants is mostly insanely misplaced and its importance vastly overrated.

[@TheProchargedmopar]

👍💪

[@michelleturner6865]

The No advertise side will not compromise. You are wasting your time. Best to ignore them and just prove them wrong Just like other extremist groups they will not give in to common sense. They never have and never will.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

trying to ignore Tham is giving in to their lies. look what happened in Europe!

[@darlenereisterer5653]

I Definitely believe in everything you do Robert you have helped me so much with training my dogs! I do believe that Dog Daddy helps dogs the video clips that are shown are only a part of what he does. He does also use positive methods. Corrections are necessary when your dealing with extremely dangerous explosive dogs and he does so much more then are shown in those short clips.

[@KAULINCOLE]

Zack George is only picking on Dog daddy so he gets more followers...

[@watchmoivies123]

I don’t know anything more than what I see about the dog daddy, but what I do see about him I do not like and there’s no reason to string up dogs, but that’s just my opinion so there’s no sense in getting on with this, but I believe there’s other ways, and I don’t believe in flanking the dog to have the dog out a ball that’s totally abuse

[@johnhubble5156]

You explained scientific methodology very clearly but do not seem to recognise that you are behaving as a scientist. When you start to interact with a problem dog you observe, obtain information and form a hypothesis as to what the problem is. You then provide some stimulus and watch the reaction. If necessary you revise your hypothesis and carry out more tests. Once you feel your hypothesis/assessment is robust you then switch from acting as a scientist to acting as an engineer i.e. you use your finding to inform a training programme leading to a beneficial outcome. So don't tell me science has no place in dog training! The problem is that the likes of Zac George who pontificate about science do not understand it, they do not observe what is in front of them they simply follow a programme based on results published in scientific papers obtained from studies of different dogs under different circumstances.

[@RobertCabralDogs]

AMEN

[@LauraDAVEdavey]

It's also wild to me that people will readily legislate against useful training tools in favour of using food as reinforcement, but won't legislate against over feeding your dog even though obesity is way more harmful to way more dogs. It's like how people want to legislate against trans women in women's sports because they want to 'protect women', but they're fine with chronically underfunding and undervaluing women's sports outside of that issue. It's about squeamishness, not about real welfare.

[@kassandrasilver]

No dog is a fur baby. Period.

[@OKLynnie]

? Could this statement be true, or no? Dog training would be science if you were experimenting with new methods, which would be the study of those tools or techniques.

[@LisaSimpsonLiberal]

I love Robert, but I don't think he understands the definition of Science.

[@dannykay402]

Unfortunately you have a lot of people who will never give a correction to a dog because they are extremist and they like Zack George believe that using any pain is abuse and unacceptable.

[@TheProchargedmopar]

A lack of corrections has forced Walmart and Best Buy out of some very large cities. LOL (Free for all). And then these same humans think ANIMALS should be allowed free-rain. Try that in your local zoo. hahahaha

[@thankmelater1254]

You're making an error in saying the the lab animals are a clean slate. They are not. What they are is very very similar to each other. However, in achieving that state through breeding, certain attributes we do not even know, become fixed features. Lab mice, for example have telomere length difference which predicts lifespan difference from "normal" mouse population statistically. Not a clean slate. An homogeneous bunch. So they can compare same to same under differing conditions. But NOT quite the same as "mice". These are particular kind of mice. Because longevity is affected by their breeding, longevity studies are not all that applicable to normal.

[@sayitpodcast]

Zach George got a corso. I am interested to see if his force free training method works with it when it hits 12 months.

[@AnimaTriste]

Even if it does: this is not verifiable proof. The dog lives with him. We all can apply aversives off camera and make a dog happy, confident and controlled afterwards. Verifiable and repetable proofs of a method are training and reforming clients dogs on a camera. Sorry to point that out...

[@OneYellowFlower]

“Science”

[@SirMrBerk]

I truly believe this is a case of you and Zak looking at it from different angles. He seems to be thinking and making content about regular pet dogs with homes that can afford to use and try these different methods, where as I believe you articulated that your concern is dogs in shelters and situations where they won't get a second chance. That being said perhaps theres other things we don't know about behind the scenes, but I don't see why the two of you and your respective methodology can't coexist

[@Mikey44499]

I don’t think it’s just about different angles….there is a big difference between the two.. Robert is dog trainer who actually trains dogs.. Zak is someone who posses as “dog trainer” online, but only works with 3-4 dogs per year he cherry picks to make KZbin informercial series about.. they are completely different biz models.. one is a in a trenches training while another one is screaming to create controversy for views and clicks.. because he makes money from his sponsors selling dog treats.. Zak’s model is more profitable and simpler, but that’s what makes him a fraud and a charlatan that he truly is.. he talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk.. I don’t know why anyone takes him seriously.. it’s like hiring a coach trainer to help you get in best shape of your life, but coach is overweight themselves.. That’s the reality we living in where fakers radicals trying to take control of entire industry and dictate to others what they should or shouldn’t do 🙄

[@SaharaBonnieBullies]

No zak believes in full positive only, even in sheltered dogs and high risk dogs.

[@AnimaTriste]

First of all, methodologies coexist already in balanced training. Balanced training is build upon and around its core: positive reinforcement, which constitutes more than 95% of our interactions with dogs. Where we differ is: we don't accept lies and manipulations of Sack George and his kind who can not provide one verifiable proof of the same standards and dismiss and demonize balanced training. Not only that; they attack and demonize balanced training and are trying to ban it. With people like that, there is no discussion: just full frontal war, in my opinion.

[@daviddawson1718]

Most of the methods you use are scientific. Don't let words be used to divide us.

[@ErinWilke]

Access to bodily autonomy is very different from choice over any other living being. Not that I disagree with your conclusion.

[@nancyarmstrong781]

Hi Robert, I am hoping you can clarify something for me. I have been doing some research on dog training. Did the quadrants come from Konard Most? And why is skinner being blamed for them? What do you think?

[@Toromali]

Let me guess, you heard it from Robert Hynes? Most did not invent the 4 quadrants. It comes from Skinner himself, science and human behavior page 185, the 4 quadrants are explained in it, but without specifically naming them that way.

[@mlambrechts1]

Science has no place in the training of dogs... But science certainly has a place in examining it.. My opinion

[@RobertCabralDogs]

agree!