Why I Sleep on a Japanese Bed and Will Never Go Back to a Western Bed

[@theunknowngamer2397]

This is the joys of seeing how people live in other places. here in the desert, we have to be worried about scorpions crawling around on the ground, so this would NEVER be a possibility, but it's cool nontheless.

[@Flurgenheimen]

Same, I would love to sleep on the floor like this but I live in Australia and the spiders would love it even more

[@Brou15O]

you have scorpions in your house? how the heck? i NEVER leave my house doors open. if im at someone elses house and they leave the door open i shut it even. i used to have a roomate that would leave the door open when he would hangout on the front porch and i haaaated that, lizards and crap would get in the house all the time because of that...

[@lolsadboi1238]

i was thinking the exact same thing, i live in the desert too and i've been bitten by spiders before in my bed just from a cover drooping on the ground and while i'm not worried about things being in my bed i'd rather not get stung by a bark or centipede or something. I like firm beds and rooms without clutter but for now my twin will have to do.

[@Lameducks]

You could put one of these on a platform bed frame. It doesn't have to be on the floor it just needs a flat surface to rest on.

[@AstroVanTribe]

@justmeherethereandeverywhere put it on a raised platform - An actual futon with the frame would work

[@BbyRiceball]

“ I have Filipino parents and they refuse to keep the ac on.” I felt this in my soul 😂

[@dreddy_g]

Putangina, close the AC! 😂

[@mahiganti]

filipino gang and saving money on everything

[@Saladandfruitbowl]

I love my Filipino bros and sisters may God protect them and bless them

[@pandaboogus]

@@Saladandfruitbowlu acting like their going anywhere

[@Dat1Pinoyboii]

I'm filipino too, and now that I live alone i have my A/C at 68-70. I Live in vegas so its always hot. But i understand why my parents refuse to use a/c much after i see the bills lol

[@crocketgsxr6]

the important part you are missing is the tatami.(not the thin "gozo" but the 2" thick ones) They are like the box spring in a western bed. They not only add cushion, circulate air (insulating / cooling) helping to prevent mold on the Shikibuton but also smell nice. Shikibuton were traditional used in tatami rooms though those are becoming less frequently seen in modern Japanese houses. it's also common to use an additional thin cushion mat in between the tatami and mattress for added comfort or a foldable wooden slated frame instead of a tatami. But more and more modern Japanese are sleeping in western style beds. the word futon is referring to the complete bedding including the sheets, blanket and pillows.

[@ComeAlongKay]

Also I’ve heard that some Asians have flatter backs while many westerners or specifically white people have a curved back that may back harder mats not work so well. Now if you had a cushion on that area or if you wether overly heavy and there was some support instead of just an actual mat it may work and it may depend on how much of a curve you have. One experts in the sleep stuff was asked about it and mentioned that as to why that might work for some and less so for others. Of course I don’t know maybe if other things are healthy your body might handle the difference better or adapt to it I don’t know.

[@crocketgsxr6]

@@ComeAlongKay that would also depend on your preferred sleeping position

[@miss1ngNo.4o4]

​@@ComeAlongKay That's interesting to me, because I tried a futon out for a bit after my first back surgery. I really wish I had invested in some tatami mats, might've had better luck. I wanted to love it and enjoyed it at first, but eventually my back was getting worse, so I had to change my bed setup again. After I finally had a couple discs replaced, my doc was looking at my old x-rays vs my new ones, and noted that I had gotten back 15° of curvature in my lower back. Idk if the futon had anything to do with it, but I think your comment is just interesting given the specific context. Makes me wonder

[@XJapanGonnaGiveItToYa-cd4xj]

I got a slated platform for my Japanese bed and that's been very effective + I get some storage under my bed

[@Scrabbledat]

Why are Japanese opting more for western beds now?

[@MasuseDeMojo]

I spent 11 years of my Navy career in Japan. I bought a futon and slept on it. I would fall to sleep very fast, and wake up ready tot go. The room I slept in was a Tatami room. The Tatami are good at air circulation and keeping your core temperature regulated. The Japanese sell a bed frame for your futon. The frames vary in how they are designed, but the best ones are made to hold Tatami mats for the futon to sit on.

[@Jesuslovesyou0316]

Father God loves you so! John 3:16✝️

[@jordankelly4684]

You're in a cult​@@Jesuslovesyou0316

[@kdtdragon]

It’s amazing how simply changing your mattress can make such a huge impact on your quality of life

[@RyuzakiPragmatico]

the main problem is? lack of space, and this bed is the unique solution. i have no problem to clean my room with an robot with an western bed, and with pillow top, its more confortable, but in my 50m2 apartment i lost one room because of that bed, if i want more space, the japanese bed can be an solution.

[@androidrockcheb2761]

real

[@guitarman0365]

Mattress choice is everything. Why I hate hotels. It's like sleeping on concrete compared to the cloud I have at home.

[@surronzak8154]

Not really regarding the fact you use it 1/3 of your life ...

[@mateuszkrytyk5711]

​@@guitarman0365 what is bad with sleeping on concrete ? As long as it doesn't hurt sleeping on anything is nice

[@Mantelar]

I lived in Japan a long time ago. I have four kids now. Japanese futons are awesome. They free up a lot of room for activities. Kids love them. They know they can have western beds any time. From 19 to 2, they have no desire for one.

[@SuperSlimshady1]

From 19 to 2 what does that mean

[@Mantelar]

@@SuperSlimshady1 ages

[@marshmellowbit3]

Wonder if his Asian physiology makes him more prone to an Eastern style bed than a Western one

[@Mantelar]

@@marshmellowbit3 7th grade?

[@5ssoul]

​@@marshmellowbit3 i mean, im a 6'1" of mexican and dutch descent and sleep on a shikibution as well. I dont think its a matter of physiology. The futon is "less comfortable" especially at first, but it really does realign your back and improve your posture. You become healthier and stronger; then you adapt and it becomes comfortable to sleep this way. The other pro's mentioned in the video are all massive too

[@gotsn0w]

When our daughter was born, we switched to a Japanese futon so that there was no risk of our daughter rolling off a Western bed in the middle of the night and hitting the floor. She still sleeps on (now her own) Japanese futon, two years later❤

[@dask7428]

You have more chance of stomping your child to death while sleeping than her actually getting hurt due to a fell but well

[@stuartrose3402]

This feels like a classic youtube video.

[@sigiligus]

You weren’t alive during classic KZbin

[@hengineer]

​@@sigiligusyea too well produced. Classic youtube is before Google bought it, before monetization

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

​@@hengineer Google bought youtube in like 2006, which was 1 year after launch. Most people presume the google purchase happened later but it was really early, google even maintained the competitor Google Video for a while.

[@vanillabiscotti]

I'd have to agree with my fellow millennials and boomers

[@ReplicantBattyman]

No it doesnt

[@Luigidragon54]

A Japanese Futon is also so easy to clean, you clean the sheets as normal and just take the futon out on a deck and give it a whack with a sturdy stick or wooden rod to get everything out, at least that is how I used mine when I had used one in Japan.

[@More_Row]

What is this deck you speak of .

[@Dom4z]

For those saying you wouldn't be able to sleep on the floor, because of insects or what not. There are solid wooden bed frames to buy without any cushion. You can simply place futon on that and get the same sleep as on floor, but still be elevated from floor. :)

[@MonroesArtStudio]

Hey homey, you might want to invest in a tatami mat for your setup. Its essential for keeping your bedding from molding and added support. You can find foldable ones as well👍🏽

[@Obtuse94]

This is what I came to the comments to ask/understand. Thank you soooooooo much!

[@stopmotiontacos]

It's not necessary to use a tatami mat. It doesn't matter. Maybe if you are somewhere that gets super humid, then sure. I've been fine in NYC just putting my futon on the floor and flipping it over every week. No signs of mold after a couple years doing this.

[@dognbundad]

@@stopmotiontacos Yeah and Sacramento it really doesn't get humid here most of the time it's a mid to dry heat just depends how your indoor AC habits influence that

[@LovelyMotokochan]

Yeah it completely depends on where you live. I bought one from a Japanese manufacturer in LA and they explained tatami mats aren’t essential for our weather

[@AstolfoCR]

@@stopmotiontacosI wanted to try a futon as well, but since I live in the Caribbean here it gets VERY humid, so the tatami should be a must right?

[@Stink777]

not me taking a 3 hour nap in the middle of the day because i accidentally looked at my unmade bed....

[@JelliinaCup]

"Fall" 💀 - O - /

[@seadee2834]

"Oh boy I sure am sleepy right now but I don't want to fall asleep yet, I think the best thing to do would be to lie down on this nice comfy, cozy bed with all my covers ontop of me and the lights out." - Me, multiple times.

[@possibly_ben]

the amount of times this past school year i've ended up accidentally falling asleep while trying to rest just one eye at a time because they sting from a lack of sleep is... disturbing

[@Can_Head]

true, I ate dinner then thought "I'm tired" then next thing I know I was waking up in my bed

[@thekingoffailure9967]

@@possibly_benit sounds like the solution would be sleeping, actually. Your body has it figured out

[@Paminjapan]

I lived in Japan for 13 years. My futon was about 2" inches thin, not like western fluffy 4-8 inch futons. Best sleep I ever had. Furthermore my pillow made of cut up cylindar like plastic straw things was amazing. Been in US for 4 years on a King bed, aquired sleep apnea, getting rid of it and going back to my Japanese bed and bedding and healthy sleeping!!

[@yootx]

What the sh*t is with those pillows? Lost my mind first time I came across them

[@Ookami20]

HELL YA 🫡😴

[@MonochromeMemories]

Sounds similar to my pillow, which is full of something along the lines of...wheat husks or something? It's very cool to sleep on.

[@CieloVida-b3z]

how do i find this pillow online?

[@blueberrydragon5160]

Make sure to flip it and move it around regularly. Slept on a mattress on the ground for a few years that got moldy due to it (a person sweats about 1,5l into a mattress a night). I got severely ill. When I flipped the mattress, it was covered in black mold on the undersides

[@SirMopy]

this! i think he doesnt know how important it is… in japan it’s easier to control the humidity inside the mattress due to the tatami mats underneath the futon.

[@hansjurgen4567]

The average person absolutely doesnt sweat 1,5l a night

[@SeanClaudeVanDAAAAAAMN]

When my gf and I started living together she noticed how much back pain I had in the mornings. She recommended this and we've been doing this for almost a month now. My back pain & neck pain are gone, my posture noticeably improved, and I feel so well rested when I wake up.

[@dumbeezy5480]

hey bro its been another 2 months, hows it going

[@SeanClaudeVanDAAAAAAMN]

@@dumbeezy5480 Great, my back pain is non existent. The funny thing is we travelled twice and stayed at hotels. My back immediately started hurting again after sleeping on the soft mattress.

[@More_Row]

@@SeanClaudeVanDAAAAAAMNDo you work for big futon

[@SeanClaudeVanDAAAAAAMN]

@@More_Row 😄

[@wellhellotherekyle]

This thing costs $536 on Amazon Canada. My god. I’ve been interested in one of these for years, but having a hard time getting my girlfriend to agree to using one, haha.

[@nikkikah2356]

I have one that's definitely cheaper. But I'll never get my girlfriend to agree to it

[@kimberlydeprey]

My husband sleeps in the bed and I sleep on my Shikibuton. I can climb up to visit him any time but at least I’m getting solid sleep now. (I was a sleep apnea sufferer. Shikibuton cured it.) -UPDATE I put two twin XL frames together. A regular mattress that my husband wants on an 8”tall frame. My frame is 14” high with smooth wood sheets and my thin shikibuton on that. Makes one large king bed. At least we are sleeping next to each other now. I’ve essentially built a raised floor.

[@LisaSoulLevelHealing]

Get 2 beds. You dont have to dleep together.

[@thicccboyztv]

Canadian money is basically fake Monopoly money anyway so NBD.

[@deathfmradio]

Lmao my girlfriend just asked me if we can get a higher bed spring before watching this 😂

[@dvhughesdesign]

As a true minimalist, I sleep on my kitchen counter and am never going back to my Japanese bed.

[@austinrichard8046]

Lollll ☠️

[@SatanenPerkele]

As a true minimalist I don't own a home. I sleep outside on the concrete street. The surface is firm and keeps me cool. Best sleep I ever had, minus the people trying to take my money and my virginity.

[@Nostradankus]

Kitchens? Outside? As a *TRUE* minimalist I have uploaded the part of my brain that feels superior over others into the cloud and then laid on the naked forest soil until my maximalist physical form had perished. Now I exist solely to scoff at your puny attempts at "minimalism" on the internet!

[@julianaypll]

@@Nostradankus Existence? That's cute. I have dissolved all attachment to even the concept of consciousness. I no longer need awareness or thought to exist. I simply am the absence of all things, floating in the void.

[@Dogsnark]

Us oldsters who have some difficulty rising from a prone to a standing position would want to have some kind of riser beneath the futon to raise it off the floor. Of course, older Japanese who have been doing this all their lives, probably don’t have that problem. Another reason why sleeping on the floor may be good for you.

[@crestofscribbles8761]

There actually is a variety of shikibuton exactly like you're looking for! Check out 'sunoko beds'. It's basically a minimalist frame to lift the shikibuton up so you have a little more leverage when getting up.

[@PantsuGod]

@@girlofthealpines Working out in old age would do wonders for quality of life around the world. Yet, its hard enough to try getting young-middle aged adults to consistently work out, not to mention people with lifetsyles/habits they've had for over 60 years.

[@mr_wright_official_]

I would highly recommend you start doing some basic hip, knee & ankle (and the rest of your body too, but legs are the foundation of life) resistance training/exercisein order to regain/maintain your ability to stand, sit & move in general from any position.

[@CarlYota]

This is one of the best reasons to live furniture free. Modern furniture ends up being a crutch that makes us soft. Since you’ve been using chairs as a crutch your whole life, now you can’t sit on the floor. But, as you said, if you didn’t develop that weakness you wouldn’t have lost the ability to get down and up off the floor.

[@cynvision]

I've gone back to sleeping half the night on shredded foam bean bags and the other half the night in a bridge hammock on a stand. The stand takes up a bit too much room in my studio. I have a chance of back pain everyday from working in a warehouse but hammocks were my magic item to have less pain while sleeping. A futon like this might let me have a spot to come in and take a nap after my ten hour shift.

[@Code_String]

My previous bed began to breakdown after all the years that went through. I had to start looking for a new bed because the discomfort was getting unbearable. I never liked how beds occupied a part of your bedroom. I stumbled on Futons out of curiosity when some mentions about them began popping up in stores or in videos. I didn't understand the hype but was willing to give it a shot just for the sake of acquiring back more space whether it be to be productive or to be in VR. No joke, the Shikibuton and Tatami Mat bundle I acquired from Emoor has been one of the best investments I've ever done in my life. Sleep quality has improved like never before, falling asleep has become much easier as well. It's actually difficult for me to want to leave my futon when I do wake up lmao. One thing that took me by surprise is that I have been regularly sleeping on my back after years of being a side sleeper. Adapting only took a day. It's been a couple of months now that I've had this thing and its excellent. Also, get a Tatami Mat! Maintaining a Futon ventilated is one of the keys to extend their usability and durability!

[@honestabe3100]

The trend from the last decade or so for "Memory foam" mattresses is a scam. Since i got one, my sleep has deteriorated because it does not dissipate heat like a normal spring mattress would; it does the opposite: it accumulates your body heat and sends it back to you in a closed loop. It makes me wake up in the middle of the night due to being too hot, and sweating, and I have to take off a blanket, and it's still too hot. I am looking for a non-foam, flippable spring mattress now. Having seen your video, it reminded me of my college years, when I did have a very nice fat, thick futon bed and I know I loved it. Reconsidering now. Thanks.

[@RyuzakiPragmatico]

for dissipate heat the only solution is air conditioner.

[@AK_Catholic_Traditional]

@@RyuzakiPragmaticoSome people, including myself never use AC when sleeping, even on Vacation in Egypt or Greece when it’s +40C. I put the AC on max for few hours before sleep and turn it off when I’m back in the room.

[@liz_violet]

memory foam bed makes me so sleepy i sleep through alarms lol

[@RyuzakiPragmatico]

@@AK_Catholic_Traditional i use, and my AC on an confortable temperature (25ºC), thats no need to "put AC on max". the only problem with AC is that the air tends to become drier, but the solution for that problem is humidifier, with that combination i sleep without problems.

[@0palOpal0pal]

That's interesting that you say that, because being warmer is actually exactly why I like my memory foam mattress. I run very very cold, and I have hypermobile joints that need the cushioning because on a firm bed my joints get pushed nearly out of place and I wake up with pinched nerves in the middle of the night. Memory foam mattresses definitely do run warm and they're in no way a one-mattress-fits-all situation, and I wish the marketing would adjust to better explain that.

[@jacobwilliams676]

I’m glad I’m not the only one using a cajon as my nightstand.

[@MusashiW-ec2yn]

Used to do this because I was poor and by myself. Advice, never on carpet, you will get bitten by bugs. Quite happy in my western bed, now not getting bitten by bugs.

[@Caprifool]

Old(ish) dude with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and pretty bad back problems here. I bought my first futon mattress 2017 and oh man, I'm sleeping so much better. But I have mine up on a breathable base.

[@heavenwilson6776]

Omg thank you for this, signed, One Zebra to another❤ seriously bless you. Ive been wondering if these would help with my sleep and those bed ridden "no spoons" days.

[@hiimchuckiewannaplay]

fellow zebra here to say - I also love my futon!

[@sorxe.]

@@heavenwilson6776 I also have H-EDS, and I noticed a difference in the amount my body could relax sleeping on the floor. It took me about 2 weeks to get used to it and not have any bruise-like pain. I've noticed when I sleep on a regular mattress, my whole body feels tense, and it's nearly impossible for me to relax the muscles.

[@Caprifool]

@@heavenwilson6776 Sorry for the late reply. Brain fog is real! 😅 Those no spons left days have also become better. Because i can actually stay in bed longer without more pain. I know it's individual of course. But I just can't do box springs or soft mattresses.

[@Aiika__]

I also have EDS and have a ton of sleeping issues, I will have to try one! ty for ur comment :)

[@MrPookiexL3oi]

I started out trying the tatami and a japanese futon mattress because of my lower back problem it took sometime at first to be used to a very firm bed but once my back issues started getting better I never looked back. When I sleep on a soft bed from my family or friends for a few days when I visit I feel my lower back start to act up so I know I will not be able sleep on a soft bed for a prolonged time. Japanese Tatami and futon mattress has been a game changer for me and I will never go back to a regular western bed.

[@stolenchapstick]

i moved out of an apartment a few years ago and forgot my tatami bed setup in the storage room. i miss it so much! i had the best sleep ever on that thing!

[@kalejuice5701]

When it comes to sleeping surfaces, floors are the most "it depends" as pertaining to sleep quality. Even with a thick blanket surface and a pillow, sleeping on concrete is pretty much a guaranteed way to feel very sore/uncomfortable, at least in my experience.

[@riley1636]

blanket isnt anywhere near as thick as a futon though

[@trixonic6934]

I’ve slept in a hammock for the last 5 years and it’s been great and saves me a lot of space in my face as well has making me feel like a million

[@PRICEX]

Sleeping in a true “camping” hammock is life changing. Highly recommend it to everyone

[@crestofscribbles8761]

I have been sleeping on a shikibuton for coming up on five months now! I bought it almost a year ago and used it as a reward to downsize my possessions. I've never been happier existing in a clean and minimal space. Also with sleeping on the floor, I can finally enjoy the full length windows we have in this house! It feels so good to wake up to light streaming in the window next to me rather than the light always being obscured by big oversized western furniture. Mine is a eXTRA firm 1" 'infirmary' style. It was $70 and is basically the equivalent to a disposable option as you can get. Unfortunately it still cost $300 to ship it so I might as well have gotten a super fancy one. When I reach twelve months of use, I think I will reward myself with a proper set that's 3" or 4" with tatami 💖 never going back to big, bulky, heavy, junk furniture!

[@lmergenti]

I'm a 73 year old active athlete with chronic SI joint pain. It acts up after a run or long bicycle ride. Tried yoga, collagen, you name it. Everything. Out of sheer desperation, I somehow got the idea to pull out this old futon from storage that my second wife left here which I never used. The first night I slept better than expected. After the second night I noticed my SI joint felt better than it had for months. Now, after a week my SI joint pain is gone totally. I do tend to roll around more on the futon than my tempurpedic but overall I feel more rested upon awakening. I'm ditching my old bed and going with the futon. It's much more healthful

[@dcontreras3155]

i just put my western mattress on the floor and it solved all my problems. Professor told me later it was because of physics. Hot air rises to the ceiling so lower is cooler, and the mattress is on a sturdy hard cold surface which sends the cool temperature through the mattress as well. Hey, the more you know 👏

[@heathersparlor]

I just got a twin japanese futon in feb. Wow! I love it! Keep telling everyone. My back pain is nearly gone. Also, pre menopausal and this really helps at night. And i sleep in a different room than my husband. No more snoring.

[@scottmalmis7371]

Made this change a little over a year ago, but I went the route of loft bed + tatami mat + futon to increase space in my room. I've enjoyed the sleep I've gotten from it! I think one benefit I've derived from the experience is just gaining the ability to sleep anywhere after adjusting to the firmness. Great video, hope more people try this out!

[@minnybiker4505]

Thank you for presenting alternatives! I finally ditched a typical "Western" style mattress. I just bought some latex slabs, wrapped them with some wool and again with a cotton case. It was a lot more than $140, but simple materials, should last decades, and incredibly comfortable! Something to consider.

[@sigiligus]

The problem with defaulting to western standards is that they are not universal. Europe is cold, especially Britain which exported the lions share of European standards in the colonial period. A bed that heats you up makes sense when you live in a place that rains half of the year and considers 30° to be a heatwave. So do many other things, such as hot Christmas dinners, but who wants hot roast meat and vegetable on an Australian Christmas?

[@Kinfure]

Can't get away with that in Australia lmao. The amount of lizards, bugs and spiders that get into our home makes sleeping on the floor a very anxiety-inducing experience.

[@namjoonie936]

Not really lol depends where you live, season and how long you leave doors open

[@lf2334]

Can't those things crawl up the legs of the bed? A raised bed doesn't seem like it would prevent those things from getting into your bed. I guess it couldn't hurt though.

[@Kinfure]

@@lf2334 They definitely can but 100% of the things that've gotten in so far have been either on the floor or walls, fingers crossed it stays that way

[@Kinfure]

@@namjoonie936 That's true. Probably have to take a look at the fly screen bc we definitely leave the doors shut, we've got two indoor cats with FIV so can't risk them getting out.

[@lf2334]

@@Kinfure ha. I'm glad they're staying out of your bed! :)

[@kw6996]

I've been using a shiki futon mattress with a foldable tatami mat for 6 months. Sleeping on the floor seems to work for a lot of people judging by the comments, however, it's not been a game changer for me. I look forward to being able to buy a western bed in the next few months. I've never seen anyone comment on the effort it takes to roll over during the night when sleeping on a japanese mattress. I only weigh 56kgs and yet I feel like I am trying to heave a ton of lead just to change position. A western mattress provides bounce to assist with rolling over in the night and I still feel as hot as ever on my 100% cotton shiki futon mattress. The big positive is the space in the room that you gain during the day. I'm completely bummed, as I spent a fair bit of money for the genuine bedding from Japan.

[@jordankelly4684]

So you're lazy and rolling over is too hard? Seriously?

[@kw6996]

@@jordankelly4684 No, I'm not lazy. I'm simply sharing my experience. I am a very light sleeper and move a lot during the night and the extra effort in movement causes me to be far more awake as a result. I also have been suffering pain in my spine and hips after sleeping on the futon which has gotten worse over time, not better, which I am quite surprised by. Pain that I never experienced on a western mattress. I honestly thought my body would adjust from all the positive experiences shared on the internet, but after 8 1/2 months on the futon I have given up. Congratulations to everyone who loves futons and that they work for. I wish I was one of them but unfortunately I am not. Now that I am back on a western mattress all of the bone aches and pains have gone. If there was a zombie apocalypse I would have to suck it up and sleep on whatever, but until then, I am glad that I can be back on a western mattress.

[@unlearning_distance]

Hey Zach, wanted to congratulate you on the engagement🎉 Wishing you the best, man!! Thank you for the awesome videos

[@JohnVale2814]

I bought one a bit over a year ago and love it. It has helped my back tremendously! I’m 42 and don’t plan to switch to a traditional mattress anytime soon.. I also have a bamboo sleeping mat underneath it.

[@rogerwinright2290]

When I moved out of my old house, I did the exact same thing! I've since gone back to a regular size bed, but I miss the space efficiency and comfort of my old futon.

[@statix1]

I live in Australia and ive been sleeping on the floor for 3 years. Spiders can climb onto beds too so im not worried. I keep my room much cleaner and my back feels much better.

[@goliathyeti1669]

I sweat a lot in my sleep for months and months ive tried everything from sleeping in different rooms, with a fan, with a window open. Everything i tried wasn’t helping until i started sleeping on the floor. So now i have a mattress pa d on my floor and ive been getting the best sleep ive had in months

[@Snoozie09]

I've always had a really tough time getting out of bed in the morning. But in past when I've had my bed on the floor, it's always SO MUCH easier for me to get OUT of bed. I may pitch this idea to my wife. Wish me luck boys.

[@Tjmalloy2]

Howd it go?

[@woodstream6137]

I wonder if that could have helped me. I used to just use a sleeping pad and comforter. I'm in my 50s, back problem, gerd, 3rd shifter, and overweight. I would get horrible leg cramps and could barely get off the floor. I transitioned to air beds but those would develop never ending leaks after a couple months. Now I'm on an adjustable bed frame with a memory foam mattress. I can prop up my head for the gerd or my feet after a rough day. I do miss the minimalist footprint of sleeping on the floor.

[@honestabe3100]

quite likely your leg cramps might be due to magnesium deficiency, it's very common as we don't get enough of it in a typical diet. Supplements help, as do epsom salt baths.

[@woodstream6137]

@@honestabe3100 went to er on Friday for pulmonary embolism😟

[@Yo-Geo]

This video’s timing is impeccable because I’m about to graduate from my college and go to grad school. That means moving from a dorm to an apartment and I was just thinking about my bed options. Thanks for the vid, might go for this bed instead of a traditional one!

[@kalpal5953]

my husband and i love it! we have been sleeping on one for the last 6 months, and we both feel like it changes sleep for us.

[@retrovelcro]

I also grew up in Sacramento as a Filipino kid and hated how the bed became a heat trap in the summer. Going to consider this one. At least now I get to run the AC in the summers...

[@UsDiYoNa]

0:42 just tell me where you got those pants

[@samuelm.7797]

Tell me when you find out

[@max_wav]

Oh yeah, those are the

[@ChristysChannelYall]

Oh bless your heart. I live in the south and no AC at night, no way!! I sleep on a Japanese futon and tatami mat too and I’ll never go back to a regular bed.

[@milkmanyt9249]

Where did you get the mats and futon? Having trouble finding good quality ones in the US

[@SSoul0]

@@milkmanyt9249 i bought mines on Amazon. both my tatami mat and futon. took about 2 months for them to arrive and ive been using that to sleep for the last 3 years. I also bought a bed vacuum that sanitizes the futon with uz light and sucks up particles left behind. probably the best sleep investment I've ever made.

[@sebrinadickerson3341]

I worry about close encounters of the critter kind on the floor.

[@drago7635]

i Wonder if i put a futon on top of an existing foam mattress if that would work

[@hamingnu6610]

To be completely fair, 'critters' are really common here in Asia but we make it work with a lot of floor furniture because every corner of the room is easy to clean because you don't have a bunch of big permanent furniture that they use to hatch eggs inside of or something. Cleaning the floor area of your room daily is really easy when there's nothing in the way, and it reduces the chances that a critter could be attracted to enter the room. Plus concerning stuff like rats and cockroaches are big enough that there are physical ways to stop them from encroaching onto your sleeping space. Not sure about bed bugs, but I bet there are less chances a floor bed would have bed bugs if you get into the enforced habit of hanging it out in the sun every time you don't use it, but not sure. Definitely not saying that you can't get into close encounters with insects on the floor, but it's definitely possible to avoid it. Obviously if you don't wanna take the risk then getting a bed frame is still nice, just takes up more permanent space.

[@Ethan-ee4zn]

Physically jumped when your face appeared and I realized that you’re the fixed gear bicycle guy I watched and enjoyed so many years ago. Great video man thank you!

[@mariavictoriasalita5273]

I want to give this a shot. One advantage I see in this set up is cleaning up the room is relatively easy. Simply fold up the futon and tatami mat, sweep, mop and scrub the floors, get rid off the unnecessary knick-knacks in the room, set up the beddings and voila!

[@fevkin]

Another important thing to add, modern mattresses are full of chemicals which are toxic to humans.; The man made materials that create the foam interior are themselves chemicals. I never gave this a thought until my son said he'd like to try sleeping on a tatami bed and so I launched into the subject matter. I've ended up buying an extremely expensive futon for him because I wanted to get him the genuine article. He has terrible back problems and i'm so impressed with what I've learned, I'm considering getting myself one too!

[@nomad1517]

I sleep on two sleeping bags and a camping mat. I've done this since 2010. No back issues, hate when bugs get on my face, not common, but can happen more often since you are on the ground. Plus vacuuming is so much easier since I can just pick up my bed and put it somewhere else with ease. And it's a bit of work out getting up out of bed because you are on the ground, when your sick, it kind of sucks, but not a huge issue.

[@dognbundad]

Love that I got this recommendation for a fellow Sacramentan's video! Sleeping on the floor is underrated!

[@RinceCochon]

I am European (France) and the vast majority of mattresses here are without springs, only hard foam. You can choose the hardness of the mattress, but you will almost never have a mattress with springs, they are more of the futon type. I am like you, I need a hard mattress, but thanks to the available offer I always had what I needed

[@mikerossi4741]

So weird. I just had a shukibuton video pop up on my wall a couple of days ago. God must be talking to me again.

[@jordankelly4684]

It's the algorithm, not your imaginary friend

[@adunaio]

I started listening to why we sleep for fun and I can say, it is hands down one of the BEST books to read.

[@anubisvel]

Shout out to Sacramento! I grew up there and lived there until 2022. I'm in Seattle now and still have my shikibuton. 🙌🏼 Can't say I miss the heat though. 😂

[@Iceland874]

Sounds like exactly what I need. All the pros you mentioned would make a huge difference in my life. Thank you for a super great, helpful, and informative video!

[@tallergeese]

I've been thinking about making this switch for a long time and this random algorithm recommendation may be pushing me over the top.

[@reloadded2959]

You and me both. I sleep on the floor sometimes. And it is comfortable, but id certianly welcome a little more padding.

[@keiz_]

I may have to give one a try. I've been sleeping on the carpeted floor with my blanket and pillow lately, and found I have an easier time falling asleep, waking up in the mornings, and feel more alert/refreshed throughout the day than my bed.

[@apotheosis00]

Been sleeping in a hammock for 3 years -- really great for hot summers, no need for a pillow, just sleep at an angle in it. Something to look into if you're thinking about nontraditional sleeping.

[@sophieirisviel4100]

do you have a hammock holder thing or did you put hooks into the walls? i’ve been wanting to maybe sleep on a hammock in my room but i haven’t really liked any of the hammock holders i’ve used, and am considering hooks in the wall studs, but i’m still kinda unsure

[@apotheosis00]

@@sophieirisviel4100 I sleep in an eno doublenest and I use an eno hammock stand / frame. But for one stint, I slept in this apartment I was renting where I just drilled two holes in the studs in walls and mounted it on chains that way. I ended up using a hammock calculator to determine how much chain I needed to create an optimal hang (I don't remember how many degrees that was to be honest).

[@Nobody-dc8dp]

I tried to do this, but it messed up my back.

[@caiofernando]

Super common here in Brazil. A hammock is the ultimate summer sleeping solution.

[@caiofernando]

@@Nobody-dc8dp You need to make sure you have the correct tension and sleep diagonally.

[@neuplop]

Humans have slept on the floor for thousands of years, so probably we evolved based on that, so i can see how have less back problems using this kind of bed

[@JoJoestar]

I got a traditional futon and it has conquered my insomnia, it literally works so damn well like it's really comfortable

[@milkmanyt9249]

What brand futon? Looking for one myself

[@davienstrong]

2:02 bro didn’t wake up and chose violence, bro couldn’t go to sleep and chose violence

[@ros8986]

I am 68, I have slept on the floor on a self inflating camping mat for 20 years (I don't "make my bed, it is always made and does not mildew because it is waterproof. I love it. I would not recommend a cotton futon, I had one and it got mouldy. I would recommend a natural latex two inch foam pad.

[@spectral_boi239]

Ive been searching for a decent shikifuton for literally weeks and this is exactly what i wanted thank u! 💙✨

[@trythis2006]

i always use these folded bed things, they are big and really soft and put it on top of a mattress to make it even better, its like sleeping on a cloud

[@TL243]

Love the essentialism.

[@thedigitalodometer945]

Love the introduction to “essentialism” by your comment.

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

I slept on something similar to this in my early twenties when I had a studio apartment. It's still the most comfortable bed I've ever been in.

[@astererratum6546]

I would love a tatami! I have a more "normal" western style bed. Tho my mattress is pretty firm. I'd like to get a tatami mat and futon and use my bed frame (hard for me to get off the floor (POTS and standing from laying is a hospital sentence). Edit: when i used to go on vacation with family id always sleep on the floor, theyd give me all theyre comforters and extra sheets/pillows and id make a kind of makeshift futon.

[@crestofscribbles8761]

If you do decide to try a shikibuton, check out sunoko beds! It's basically a more minimalist frame made for the shikibuton. That may be just tall enough to make it easier to get up but will be a lot less bulky and annoying than western frames.

[@humanplantman]

Without tatami mats id recommend a Japanese style raised platform bed to put the futon on. I live in Truckee for the winters, (when im not in Japan) so it gets chilly on the floor. It also ties the room together from a design perspective. Women appreciate when you've got a bed, lol. And when side sleeping, if they're tatami boxes, your hip wont bottom out to the floor.

[@AlexShiro]

Futon n floor sleeper here 🙌 Years of it, suggested to partner; warned them it would have a little changeover time… They loved it. We bought a low Japanese made bamboo frame that holds two big tatami, so itself a few inches off the floor which we need bc we have more bugs/spiders living near state reserve. But it is awesome. And yes, we fold up out blankets daily lol 😂 and flip it over for fresh air. A good day of sunshine gets it fluffed up and smelling fresh n mould free 👌🏽

[@Seiaeka]

I actually recently started wearing Jikatabi (ninja shoes) for a larp, but if discovered that when I wear them I no longer have back, knee, or hip pain. I can stand for a long time in them too. There's just something about how we used to do stuff before that just works. In my early days in uni, I only had a cot and had to put it away because my room was so small where I lived that I couldn't even use my chair at my desk--but when I did put it away, I was always so much more productive. The room I had was smaller than yours.

[@uzaira9088]

Bro is gonna be bamboozled when he finds out about haystacks.

[@PauIdenino]

😂

[@GurHaenouasHazourem]

I sleep on the same kind of futton. But during the day I keep it in a closet. Protects it from dust. I can personally relate to most of your points. I always slept on box beds. Recently been in a hotel, and I missed sleeping on the floor. It kinda suggests that you are tucking into a small corner behind someting, and signing off for good. 😄I swear I sleep better on the floor.

[@ruskyalmond1977]

sleeping on the floor = no back pain

[@fluttzkrieg4392]

I've been living in Japan for around a year now and if I'm able, I'm gonna take my futon back with me when I return to my home country. This thing is not only extremely comfy, certainly much more than my old bed, but it's also completely silent since it's not on a creaky wooden platform like my bed back home. Most of the people I know who are also from my country bought western style beds as soon as they could simply because they don't like getting up/down when they go to sleep/wake up.

[@TheExodusV]

“I run so hot” maybe switch out that hoodie and fleece-ish pajama pants for a t-shirt and shorts 😂

[@WilliamShinal]

My bed is not a futon, but rather the lower end of a 2-bed bunk with the lower one being a bed-couch convertible. That means there's much less padding unless I throw on the second layer. The first layer, while being a bit uncomfortable, has been a great help keeping my back in good shape with its stiffness.

[@johnp.johnson1541]

Ha! I sleep on a 5" memory foam. And as well, I fold up my blankets and sheets, storing away all, including the pillows. This has been my ritual for years.

[@dandanjordan]

I just slept on a 4" last night so many regrets 😭 my back is killing my

[@johnp.johnson1541]

@@dandanjordan Bummer.

[@honestabe3100]

@@dandanjordan you have to give your body a few nights to get used to it.

[@MirridonOnslaught]

I started to sleep on the floor when i was young for similar reasons. the firmness just feels better for me.

[@TaddyMasonn]

I got a really big bean bag chair that turns into a queen sized bed. The best part is that there are no beans. It's memory foam inside. The most comfortable bed I have ever slept or chair I've sat in. I'm literally typing this comment while sitting in the chair ❤❤❤😍

[@friendlyghostkinda]

Sounds interesting. Know what brand it is?

[@TaddyMasonn]

@friendlyghostkinda the brand is called magic bean bag. I got it on Amazon for around 200$. For the comfort and convenience, u can't beat that price. the only negative thing I can say about it is they didn't have that many color options. Lbvs

[@friendlyghostkinda]

You’re a legend! Would it would outdoor undercover? 😊

[@TaddyMasonn]

@friendlyghostkinda thank u. However, I don't understand the question. My apologies.

[@DEVINROWLANDSON]

I find having a bed frame with an open underside works well for keeping you cool as well, wooden frame, 4 legs, and there's space under your mattress to disperse heat. I usually look for the firmest mattress that has breathability as well. Pretty sweet not to have to unfold it and refold it every day/night too.

[@DeviousLicc]

Nice you live in Sac Cali too huh? I feel ya, it gets really hot during the summer especially when you live on the second floor like me lmao, the rooftop absorbs heat making it more difficult to sleep. So I think I’ll invest into a futon too.

[@Lemendeer]

There is something called the dust layer. It is a certain area around ground level that contains a lot of fine dust particles. So it is not bad to sleep higher than the dust layer. Also I slept on a futon for several years. And I prefer a hard spring mattress.

[@lebowski7717]

I'm looking into getting one of these and just wondering if it's common to fall out of these kind of beds?

[@mimiveggie8653]

the most comfy bed I ever slept on was a thin wool mattress stacked on wooden pallets in a yurt. Super firm. 2weeks of bliss.

[@1412mariLU]

That might be a dumb question, but what about that 2nd thing that's not sleeping? Is't that extremely uncomfortable? I imagine my knees wouldn't be fond of having a fouton for that

[@AlexShiro]

Nope. No sore knees or anything. Married here lol) It’s actually better. Nice firm but cushiony surface. Doesn’t hit walls, no broken frame or slats, bed doesn’t move around.

[@1412mariLU]

@@AlexShiro Good to know :)

[@coolchameleon21]

are you talking about plowing? 💀

[@Robot-Overlord]

By the way, I bought one of these and its not as hype as they make it out to be for clickbait. Its a low quality mattress and it does take up less space but if you want quality tatami youre going to have to spend money so "cheap" is out of the question. This video reminds me of the whole van life youtube trend. Tricking people into living like hermits or poor folks and the realization kicks in.

[@rickrobinson8417]

Look up biphasic sleep. Interesting stuff.

[@davedixon2167]

About 20 years ago, I bought a futon for my basement - needed seating for parties and a sofabed could come in handy. Well, I got the el cheapo black metal convertible frame that every cheap futon seemed to come with, but then I went to an actual futon store to get the mattress itself. I wish I could remember the make and model - it was quite a bit thicker than the traditional Japanese one in this video, button-tufted all the way across which made it generally firm with a little squish to each 'pocket', and the fabric was the perfect blend of soft and durable. And it made for the most comfortable sofa I have ever sat on in my life. I'm kicking myself for having gotten rid of it when I moved a couple years later. I would probably trade my memory foam mattress for that thing if I could find another one, at least for the cooling properties you mentioned, plus I'm trying to combat shoulder and hip pain when I sleep on my side.

[@In_time]

Man, you *need* air circulation under your bed😳 or get ready for mold.

[@janserra6892]

I sleep in a classic western bed but I always slept without a pillow since I was a child, and it feels so good and its so healthy for your back and body in general. Will never sleep with a pillow

[@DrSlobGoblin]

This feels like modern art. With the affiliate link, this acts as some weird vlog commercial for the bed.

[@XJapanGonnaGiveItToYa-cd4xj]

I got a Japanese mat bed about 2 months ago and my back pain has almost completely vanished. I have mine on a low platform which avoids all the "On the ground" issues.

[@Marisolpromesa]

This is one of the best vids I've seen on futons/floor sleeping! Keep it up :)

[@Baka_Mop]

A genuine shikibuton can cost you about $300 to $600 depending on the size and type/amount of material you want inside. That doesn't include the tatami mat, which may run you another $150, and then there's the cost of shipping it from Japan. I got mine from FutonTokyo a few years ago, and it's one of the best things I've ever bought. No more back pain or soreness in the morning, and I sleep like a rock. Also, no bed creaks or any other noise since you're sleeping on the floor. It's a little pricey, but getting the genuine thing is worth every penny.

[@micahf0]

The affiliate link is crazy

[@micahf0]

run it up man lol

[@steveshea6148]

I've been sleeping on the same futon for 35 years. Although it's not Japanese style. Honestly a 3" memory foam topper is amazing though. An air mattress with just a sheet on it is much much better than a futon for hot temps though since the free airflow that happens inside the mattress will pull heat away from your body whereas the futon will insulate.. Try it.