Why I Sold the Panasonic Lumix S5 | 4K 10-Bit 4:2:2 & ProRes RAW Samples

[@zoomfx777]

Hi Zeek, good valid review. I'm still going to be adding it to my GH line of panasonic's. I shoot mostly video and single touch my auto focus on back of body and do my thing. Thanks for taking the time to explain your reasons to sell the S5. Your footage looked Panasonic beautiful from the S5!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Thank you, appreciate it 😎🙌 If you're with the Panasonic Line, then absolutely go for it! Brilliant cameras for sure! I love Panasonic 🎥🔥 When Ioved from the GH5 to the S5, I felt right at home, just Full Frame though haha. If their cameras begin to support BRAW, or AF improves, I may make the switch back. 👌

[@sulogno]

So if I touch the focus area from the lcd screen at the back of the camera , then there won’t be any focussing issues, right ?

[@incendiesproductions]

It really is crazy how Panasonic had the stones to include the full color science and V-Log of their pro-level VariCam line in their entry level full frame mirrorless camera. ARRI-like footage and dynamic range for about $2000 USD? Crazy how far we’ve come!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I know, pretty remarkable actually! Just need to straighten up their Autofocus Capabilities 😉👉🎥🔥

[@incendiesproductions]

@@ZeekEOSZ Honestly from what I gather, the S5’s autofocus isn’t so bad- it just takes a bit of work and setting adjustments to get it to a decent use. Still not on par with Sony or Canon though, but then most of my lenses are vintage/manual focus only anyway. Still, it’s crazy that Panasonic haven’t figured out a great autofocus system yet. Their cameras are otherwise damn near perfect, but more people flock to cameras with weaker codecs or major drawbacks because those brands’ autofocusing are more reliable.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@incendiesproductions It's difficult to eliminate that AF pulsing you get, but maybe with the right setup, you could just do it. Hopefully, they will get better in this regard. That's when I might make the full jump from Sony.

[@CarterCreativeContent]

@@incendiesproductions 100%

[@Dar1usz]

@@incendiesproductions lol 12 stops od DR plus outdated, slow and unpredictable AF. It would be an hit with proper AF, but after using sony a73/a7s3n i can say its an manual camera with great video capabilities, but nothing close to a7s3 in almost any way. I will not mention 24-70 f2.8 for 2200GBP :) Contrast AF in 2021 is a joke. Have a good day !

[@davidp158]

Sorry to hear about your troubles with the S5. I believe micro HDMI is an inexcusable design flaw. Panasonic knows better, as sooooo many micro and mini HDMI ports broke on their GH2 and GH3 cameras. No matter how good the product may be, I do my best to avoid buying a product with micro or mini HDMI.

[@harry54ck]

Kudos from Ukraine, Zeek! Really great thank you for posting 264 video samples. I downloaded and played with them. I had touched Panasonic S5 from practical side. I wasn't able to grade them so good as you did but I hope I will master Davinci Resolve to the level when I'll achieve your level.

[@Sunsetblvd-gm7gd]

As a filmmaker AF is never an issue for me, like, most of the time we manual focus pull n calibrate the focus distance before shooting so the S series or anything lumix ever put out suits me just fine. I get why AF is such a big thing for vloggers tho.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

These cameras are amazing for the price, even the S1. Quality is amazing for internal codecs. Love Panny as a company, the AF would be an added bonus.

[@harry54ck]

Tell please,how focusing is conducted on live shows? It is only manual? From what I see camera flip screens are too little to make proper autofocus and it is merely impossible to focus with them what kind of solution for this? External monitors?

[@briandipierro8865]

I just bought my S5 a few weeks ago and I absolutely love it, no intention of using a Ninja V and I use manual focus so I can get everything I need out of it. It's so great for video AND photo. Been really loving a lot about it. I still take out my NX3000 because it's like 1/3 the weight of the S5 and a lens.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Awesome to hear! It really is a phenomenal camera for the price 😎👌

[@briandipierro8865]

@@ZeekEOSZ I'm working on a project with a friend, and it's been super amazing to use. $2000USD but worth every penny with my ol' FD lenses (this is the only camera my FD 50mm f1.4 reaches infinity on it, it hits the hard stop perfectly at infinity)

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@briandipierro8865 Gotta love the FD Stuff! Perfect match with the FF S5. Should be good 🎥🔥

[@josejoselete6156]

really helpful review thanks. All the problems you mention above, are well documented in facebook groups by users, however youtube if full of reviews omitting those, although they admit that nobody paid for them to make the review, they are more like adds. thanks for the review

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem! It's not a cheap piece of equipment, so the least I could do is share my experience before others come across some of these things. Cheers! 😎👍

[@josejoselete6156]

@@ZeekEOSZ Do you know how long has been since Panasonic acknowledge the skipping lines with the raw recording? The reason why I ask is because I'm looking at getting an S5 or A7s3 but if Panasonic has no fixed it by now, its probably not going to happened.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Panasonic can't fix it until they install Anti-Aliasing Filter like the one in their supreme S1H.

[@josejoselete6156]

@@ZeekEOSZ Im talking about the line at 06:19 in your video. does not coming from not having an anti-aliasing, is it?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@josejoselete6156 Panasonic haven't fixed it. Only happens with the Atomos Ninja V though, haven't tested other monitors. It was annoying. Personally I'd go the A7sIII.

[@incendiesproductions]

I’ll definitely be downloading that sample footage when I get home from work tonight. I’m saving up to buy the S5 in a few weeks, so anything I can utilize to practice editing footage from it is welcomed.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Awesome! 🎥💯🔥🔥

[@incendiesproductions]

@@ZeekEOSZ Yep. Very excited to get my hands on the S5. There’s better cameras out there, sure, but the general overall value of the S5 is INSANE. Especially for the price.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@incendiesproductions The S1 is going to get ProRes Raw too very shortly, so maybe wait for that as it has Full HDMI.

[@incendiesproductions]

@@ZeekEOSZ I’ve been thinking about that for a while now, but I’d have to either pay extra to buy the VLog key code or get lucky and buy a used one with it already installed. Not to mention the extra money of paying for a native L-mount lens to go with the body and XQD cards. Makes more sense to me to just save up an extra $300 and buy the S5 with the kit lens and use SD cards for now. I don’t have an Atomos Ninja V at the moment and it’d be a ways off before I get one anyway. At that point, I might be in a better spot to go ahead and buy a used S1 to match with the S5.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@virgiltheart Luckily I already had the Atomos to test with the S5. Personally, the internal is very close, not worth the extra $800. Once you put it on KZbin, It's almost indistinguishable.

[@TuinleiBob]

For this autofocus issue, I recently picked up a Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder as a quick and dirty point and shoot B-cam next to a fully dressed up GH5 (tripod, monitor, follow focus,...). It's fantastic ! In full HD a zoom from 24 to 800mm. It's hard to miss focus on that thing. I have ordered an anamorphot to see if it works :-) GH5 + Sirui is a great combo.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Awesome! You got the HC-X15000 :) Glad to hear it's all working smoothly. I'm sure you'll like the Anamorphot, I still have it. It's a quick and easy treat ;)

[@TuinleiBob]

@@ZeekEOSZ the Anamorphot 50 arrived yesterday and it seems to work. On a zoom scale of 1 to 100, it works (with autofocus) from 15 to 45. I need to figure out what that is in mm. Sharp from 30 cm ot less to infinity. Next week some real testing... This is crazy, haha.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@TuinleiBob Might also depend on what lens you use for minimum focus distance! Congrats by the way 😎👌🔥

[@youareawesome8]

The glitch that you are having might come from the older SSD failing . I have this issue with one of my SSD on ninja blade. First I thought it was atomos Firmware update that cause it,Later I found out It was my older ssd that started to fail, it got worse a few months later until I put a new ssd and the problem went away.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Thanks for the suggestion, I use two different ones. The issue made me buy a new one and it still happened. I use both 500GB & 1TB.

[@soyluisvalenzuela]

Yeah. The issue is non related to the camera, there's no reason. It is more a cable/ssd failure

[@nightdonutstudio]

Looks like 90% the issue is related to external recording. For people only shoot internally and do not use hdmi port. Most of the issue are gone.

[@thebossnocompetition8757]

just by looking at those colors i can say it is the best i have seen from a camera here on youtube! colors looks like something you get with HDR and wide color gamut and its only SDR. Those Green rich and deep colors damn! thats why i ordered this camera right now ;)

[@josephchristoffel]

DAMN! That building shot!

[@marinrealestatephotography]

Well, Zeek, I happen to own BOTH an S1 AND an S5, and I can tell you that you are absolutely.... right. If Panasonic is going to compete with Sony and Canon then they need to make sure their cameras function perfectly, as they have built their reputation on having a great UI and lots of helpful video features. What's the point of having external prores RAW if the cables break and you get glitched frames?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Exactly! 😎👌 They need to really hammer their AF performance to really compete well with Canon, Sony and the rest. They have great video quality, ibis, colour science etc, just need to touch up on a few things 👍

[@thewalkingvloggingman7152]

They don't have to compete with Sony or Canon because their cameras are better all around. Who cares about auto focus? Only amateurs use auto focus. Panasonic built their cameras mainly for Cinematic use, NOT KZbin!! If all brands put their cameras in Manuel mode, guess what company would have the best cameras? Panasonic.

[@johngeorgo]

@@thewalkingvloggingman7152 well that doesnt adress the hdmi issue though

[@ShellyBHollis]

The S series is special. I'm a s1 user and have no complaints

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Definitely a great Move by Panasonic with the S Line of Cameras, especially with the BRAW for the S1H. Hopefully Lanny will support this for their other cams. 😎👌

[@johndrew4689]

I would've owned one of these for sure by now...but I am like you and the autofocus issues are a killer. Especially because I'd love to run it on a gimbal. Great honest review.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Appreciate it! 😎🙌💯 It's a nice camera for sure, and I looked at reviews before buying, needs change after experience.

[@johngeorgo]

you could consider using a gimbal with a wireless follow focus, or generally a wireless follow focus

[@TheVocalCollective]

It's probably already been said below somewhere, but the S1 series has a full-sized HDMI port. And yes, I've heard complaints about mini/micro HDMI ports before, so I believe you are right on that front.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yeah, the S1 would be my choice between the two if I had to choose again. 🔥

[@northparkfilms3045]

Honestly I'm ok with all the problems you mentioned. For wedding filmmakers I think this is still an ideal camera to shoot with. Autofocus I honestly have never used and used to shoot when it was never an option really so I'd say learn how to manual focus and you'll he fine

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yeah, for some people who don't need AF, this camera is definitely fine. I use manual all the time on my Blackmagic or Canon cams, but I thought I could live with it with the Panny, but I guess not. Sony was just quicker for that stuff. Apart from the things I mentioned for my use, it's a great camera.

[@robbiebarnes]

Great video Zeek! Completely unrelated but I just wanted to let you know I bought 4 vintage lenses off this guy all with adapters for the EOS M here in Copenhagen for 520kr. which is equivalent to around 100 AUD, I'm so happy! Keep up the good work man 👍🏼

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Wow great deal man! Enjoy it, should be good 😎👍🎥🔥

[@stevebendelack3935]

Very interesting on the Aliasing issue.Pictures looked really good.Lovely colour.Even cameras like the Alexa and the Venice will trouble with some tight pattern,vertical or horizontal.I am intrigued to see if the Sony or the S1H can eradicate that.There is a ratio between the tracking speed and how much contrasts light,or heavy backlight there is,to avoid the aliasing but even then it doesn’t necessarily mean you have cracked it.A good example is Cuaron’s stunning ‘ROMA’,which in the early part of the movie suffers from it a bit.It is then corrected in the rest of the movie by avoiding heavy vertical and horizontal lines in the framing and the intense light to go with it.Nice vid.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

The S1H I believe clears it up with an Anti-aliasing Filter in place. It's a great camera which has gone down slightly in price which is good.

[@TexpatOTG]

Reliable AF is the only reason I've never considered Panasonic for my YT channel. I rent when I need a camera for commercial work so I can get exactly what I need. Sony fills my needs for YT videos just fine. If Panasonic ever moves out of the dark ages and has reliable hybrid AF that works as good as a Sony, I'd be on board for all its video features.l

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I agree 💯 Love the Panasonic colours and how they implement 10 Bit internal at a reasonably affordable price. They are just missing the final touch of AF. 👍

[@TheFraziers]

Nice work Zeek! I find it curious that most of the criticisms were centered around the external RAW shooting capabilities. Although that might be important to you specifically, I think you're kind of selling the camera short. In my mind, the whole point of picking the S5 over other cameras is because of how good the internal recording modes are. I've seen videos that compare the internal 10-bit files against Black Magic Raw files from the BMPCC6k and the S5 still manages to pack in more dynamic range and comparable color quality. The internal modes are almost as good as a RAW image but with smaller file sizes and lens corrections already handled for you. Just my thought having two S5's in my possession and using them every day.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Thanks for sharing 👍 It's pretty much why I sold it, not the fact that it's a bad camera, because I did mention it has one of the best 4K I've seen in mirrorless cameras that I've used. There were just some things I didn't know to expect. The 4K Quality and colours are amazing. I do have the Pocket 6K which I do find Is better for video, but with the S5 and the possibility of BRAW, the S5 could become an amazing option for the price.

[@thebrothersthre3987]

Proroes RAW is coming to the S1 on April 6th along with internal 6k. I only use manual lenses, auto focus just isn't great with Panasonic. The S1 also has fulll HDMI not mini. That said the problems with Prores RAW are alarming. Aliasing is pretty annoying though it can be worked around of course. I wonder if an OLPF could be installed.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yeah so I heard, that's really good for the S1! It's cheap these days. The S1H also is getting BRAW Option. The ALiasing honestly threw me off a bit, only the S1H avoids this as it has an Anti-Aliasing Filter, but yeah there are definitely some workarounds. I don't believe there have been releases of any OLPF for the Pansasonic cameras, unlike Blackmagic.

[@azoique]

So stoked. Got mine for less than $1400 used (but mint). Also only use manual glass so bad AF doesnt bother me. Quite a bit of camera for the money.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@azoique Awesome price! 😎👍 I mostly use Vintage primes myself, but for this situation, I didn't realise how much I'd miss autofocus for KZbin. If not needed, then Panny all the way! Enjoy it man 😎👊🎥🏆

[@roscosart1888]

@@azoique Good deal. I got the S1 for $1500 with free V-log and extra battery. Great camera so far, ibis is fantastic.

[@leonardo_moriconi]

Hi Zeek I can't decide between the S5 and the A7III for both stills and videos, I have to use it for surf videos and now I'm using a G9 (like GH5) and a lot of times it looses focus to moving subjects (surfers). So for me AF is so important that I've got the idea to go with Sony in 8bit, which I think in S Log is gradable without problems

[@leonardo_moriconi]

@ZeekEOSZ

[@arispapaspyros]

i dont know those reasons. Thank you for this video!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem. It's still a great camera though.

[@SewTubular]

1- Aliasing is going to happen with many lower cost cameras. This can be fixed through electronic image processing in camera, but you won't have this on the cheaper cameras. A low-pass filter like the one in the S1H is a cheaper solution. 2- Cables can be a problem with any external recorder. Always carry multiple back-ups. You many need to switch recorders. I have had lots of problems with cameras using the HDMI mini cables. 3- The 24-105mm f/4 is not just a "kit lens". It's sharp. It doesn't breathe. And some versions are close to parfocal. This is outstanding for a 4 to 1 zoom lens at roughly $1,200. I bought the S1 with the film-makers firmware upgrade, and overall it's been excellent for my work. At some point in the future I will add a Panasonic S2H body ( it will have GH6-ish features, better low-light, better dynamic range, etc ) but for now I'm going to swap my GH5 for a GH6, mainly because it should match the look of my S1 footage more than the GH5 does.

[@johngeorgo]

Do you think an external AA filter would be a good solution?

[@brandonvick8033]

Thanks for sharing the footage! I really appreciate it!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No worries 👍

[@АннаЧугаева-э6с]

Excellent, no doubt - the credible, and useful review! Let me ask you a couple of questions about S5. The first question about AF video reliability. I have an experience with Panasonic G85 and I found that G85's AF (at video) is generally acceptable, though not the best certainly. So, can I expect that S5's AF reliability would be at least on the same level as G85 provides? The second question is about S5's IBIS. Here is a common opinion that Panasonic M4/3 cameras (mainly due to the small size of their sensors) provide an exceptional IBIS performance that is principally not reachable for Full Frame cameras (even for Panasonic's FF cameras)? In other words, can I expect that S5's IBIS work at least close to GH5's (or let say, G85's) level of IBIS performance? And the extra question - Do you ever consider Nikon Z6 II as a potential candidate to buy to perform your video works?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

The Panasonic AF is contrast based, so if you if little lights or practicals in the background you will see pulsing if you're moving and talking to the camera which can look distracting. IBIS is good with the S5, absolutely no issues there. Coming from the GH5 I felt right at home with the S5, just FF. The Nikon Z series are good, I'm just not into them though. I'm happy with Sony for now with KZbin stuff. I use Blackmagic Pocket 6K for Cinematic stuff or my EOS M with RAW Video Capabilities.

[@gamzehort3189]

You can use AFC in video modus with sigma lenses which have L-mount. It only doesn’t work with the adapter.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yes I know. They should enable it with the MC-21. Good way of making money..

[@milanjani7615]

Zeek! Thanks for this video. Looks like the great camera but limitations make sense. Glad I saw this. I almost bought S5. :-)

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem! 😎👌🔥

[@WTG194]

wow if Panasonic got that right I definitely would have purchased it

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I know... hopefully their next camera 🤞😎

[@alexhilli]

Nice and honest review, the autofocus is indeed useless but to me it is still the cheapest full frame that is usable for client work + it makes good photos as well. That being said, I absolutely understand why you decided to get rid of yours :) Hope you ll like the A7C!)

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Thank you for understanding haha 😎🙌 The S1 is actually cheaper than the S5 where I'm from and I probably would choose that over the S5 if I had to choose again. The A7C is a treat for YT work. I use the Pocket 6K for the Cinema stuff 🎥👌🔥

[@alexhilli]

@@ZeekEOSZ That's interesting, I was deciding between S5, bmpcc4k and A7III and S5 won because of full frame sensor, better color science imo than Sony and 10bit422. I have never considered S1 as an option in that price range (also I believe you had to spend extra for V-log but I am not sure). i heard only great things about A7C, but anyway your footage looks great no matter what camera it s coming from :)

[@chriss2595]

Thx for your honest review. Honesty is what we need.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem! 😎👍

[@maconins123]

Just sold my s1 and went with the old but very charming c100mkii:-)

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Congrats! Bold move wow. C100 MK II is awesome despite being 1080p. The functionality and colours straight out of the camera are great. 🎥💯

[@maconins123]

@@ZeekEOSZ in fact it was a huge move up for me - I know 5.9k pro res and incredible ibis. But the truth is, the c100 IMO really is the better camera. Only thing I liked more with the Panasonic was vlog (much more leverage) also 8bit makes you shoot more precisely. But at the and this is my conviction to than go with either c70 or c200:-) I love it

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@maconins123 yeah, no that makes sense. These cameras are still workhorses and will do the job very well if 4K isn't required.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

hell nah

[@MMAHypeWatch]

Did not need auto focus......S5 is so nice! Ever since you taught me EOSm ML Raw I have loved Manual Focus and have acquired some fast reflexes. =D

[@ZeekEOSZ]

S5 is awesome! I'm glad they've made some updates! Good to see Panasonics new Full Frame Box Camera coming out. Looks 👌🔥🎥

[@CarterCreativeContent]

Great review and thanks for the footage!!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem at all 😎👍

[@CarterCreativeContent]

@@ZeekEOSZ I have a GH5 and really want to move up to full frame. Not too fussed about autofocus. Dynamic range and image quality / colour science are more important to me and I don't see any camera that can compete at this price.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@CarterCreativeContent Having used the GH5, the S5 feels exactly the same, you should feel right at home, apart from the lens mount of course. If AF is not a big deal, then the camera is fantastic. Also consider the S1 with Full Sized HDMI, although V-Log is a paid upgrade.

[@robocoontv3245]

I love Lumix cams a lot. If I do work by myself, not via agency, I'm using my GH5 and sometimes my good old GH2 as b-cam. I also have the old BMCC 2.5k. I'm searching for my maybe last workhorse and at the moment the S1h is on top of my list.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Nice cams 👍 The S1H will be a treat. 🎥🔥

[@HGQjazz]

Damn! You went to an A7C?! I struggled choosing between the S5 and the A7C, before settling on the A7C. That S5 footage looks glorious, but decided I wasn't good enough for it. I'm looking forward to some A7C content from you! You're obviously very skilled. I'm subscribed!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Appreciate it man 😎👍🍻 I use the A7C for all my vids you see on YT. All shot with it. Love it. 🔥

[@okiwidianto8582]

waiting so long for your videos sir

[@ZeekEOSZ]

More to come ;)

[@D.A.M.I.R]

@@ZeekEOSZ Keep them going 👍. Thanks.

I got one, but the screen goes black after 30 or 40 minutes when i use the hdmi out. Is a shame, my old GH5 never fail me that way.

[@dawid8837]

What would you recommend for stills and artistic video filming around this price tag?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Fujifilm X-T4, Nikon Z6, Panasonic S1. All these cameras are 10 bit video capable.

[@salsabilahmedshrestho960]

I am torn between S5 and A7C but can't decide. Firstly and mostly I do music cover videos and vlogging for my other channel. The thing is that I always wanted to shoot in rain which is why I'm considering S5. I know that S5 can shoot in rain but the A7C cant. I will be glad if you suggested which to get.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Both will do the job. I'd prefer the A7C for vlogging. The S5 will do good for music videos, but you can still do it with the A7C. The A7C AF is so helpful.

[@AbhiReddy001]

Good to come across your video for what I’m into right now. What do you think about Sony A7R Mark iii/A in terms of performance and future updates comparing with Panasonic S5 ?? I was but stuck at picking one from these camera’s which offer more user friendly options ! Ofcourse I was more into portraits and Video using sigma lenses of E and L mounts.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

A7RIII is still 8-Bit for Video, the A7SIII would be better. I would prefer the Video quality of Panasonic S5 over the A7RIII, but the Sony will have better Video AF. Sony E-Mount is cheaper than L Mount Lenses. Both will do excellent with portraits. I would choose the S1 over the S5.

[@AbhiReddy001]

@@ZeekEOSZ Thank You for being so quick. On Radar A7Siii is out of my way as hefty price (4800 SGD) for a 12 MP. I was checking discounted A7Riii @ 3000 SGD and Panasonic S5 @ 2650 SGD. However S1 weigh 1021 grams (400 grams more than A7Riii) and battery life is still a worry. with Sony A7 R iii Perks of weighing 400grams less, better dynamic range, AF, Focus points and extra pixels looks A7R iii would be better deal. 8 bit Video should serve the purpose and still has 4k(UHD) and better portraits too. I think it gives clear picture then. If S1 is better than S5, then personally A7R iii @3000 SGD would be decent choice for everyday usage. Thanks Mate !!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@AbhiReddy001 Sounds good to me! Didn't notice the price drop of the A7RIII, looks good 😎👌🎥🔥

[@impatrickt]

The video AF is honestly great on this camera. It really surprised me.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

It depends where you are. Less contrasty scenes will do pretty well, others not so much with pulsing and AF in/out.

[@impatrickt]

@@ZeekEOSZ idk ive been using it for a few months. client work, personal work, it hasn't let me down. were you on firmware 2.2?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Can't remember the firmware I was on. I didn't notice Panasonic made any changes to the AF. It's still contrast based though. I wish they had eye tracking.

[@impatrickt]

@@ZeekEOSZ if you get a chance to try one again... I would. honestly I thought it was gonna be terrible but I can literally count on it. it's great. DP review has a good test video of it as well. I shot my whole last video in autofocus with face detect. and for photos ive never used a faster focusing camera.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@impatrickt I really do love Panasonic. If I had to get one again it would probably be the S1/S1H or a newly announced one. 👍 Love the 4K Quality.

[@DavidPhilp81]

Great review, many thanks. Do you think the GH5 is still a good buy in 2021?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

The GH5 is still definitely a good choice. Do consider though that the BMPCC 4K may be similar in price too as well as the Sigma FP. If you like M43 Panasonic then the GH5/G9 are still good options for the price. Not sure of any news of the GH6 ;)

[@DavidPhilp81]

@@ZeekEOSZ yeah no news on the gh6, the fact that they're still working on firmware for the gh5 leads me to believe it's still a long ways off. I'm not a big fan of the 4/3 sensor size, but the gh5 quality is incredible and the 180fps is unmatched so far. I would buy an fx3 but I don't currently have five grand to dump on. one.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yep, best to sum up your exact needs and jump on that direct route ;)

[@jesseyules]

Aliasing is a big pet peeve. Thanks for bringing this to attention. I assume the original S1 will have the same issue, as it also lacks the anti-aliasing filter?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yes it most likely will. S1H has the fix.

[@TheNationalTrails]

Likely a form of "pixel-binning" aliasing. GH5 looks far better as it downscales to 4K using the full sensor read-out. * I sold the S1 because of aliasing. * Can hardly believe Panasonic would sell this camera given the effective image resolution.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

The colors in the sample videos are looking a bit weird...I don't have this problem with the internal recording. I'll play a bit with files you shared, thank you!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

They were H.265 converted to H.264 mp4 as my Mac can't play them back or use them properly. But the provided samples will give you the true quality.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

@@ZeekEOSZ Thanks mate, I'll give them a look :) my rtx 3070 should handle them without problems

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Like butter 😆👊

[@mannietravels]

Hey Zeek, great video again. Just what I needed to watch at the moment. I can scratch the S5 from my list now. It is now between an S1 or the BMPCC 4k for my next camera. Have you used either of these extensively?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I'd go S1, otherwise 6K over S1. I used to have P4K. I liked the 6K better.

[@music_is_saint]

the s1 has a full size hdmi, not a mini. great video mate!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yeah accidentally got mixed up with my other cam with the mini.

[@MaxoticsTV]

It might be pointed out that aliasing happens because an excess of pixels, relative to the final frame size, leaves gaps between pulled pixel values. I don't know if the camera shoots in 4K crop mode (the 4K contiguous pixels on the sensor), but if it did, that should remove aliasing though would increase the effective focal length. Also, though (full frame) large high-pixel count sensors have the aliasing drawback, they also have a benefit--easier to obtain shallow depth of field. And of course, photos with the S5 should rival any other full frame camera. Lastly, these cameras don't really shoot true dynamic range 10-bit. It's more like 8.1 bit. So the ability to record 12-bit RAW remains a powerful feature. I don't have either the S5 or A7SIII. Last I checked, the S5 was half the price of the latter... I think you were trying to say that ;)

[@ZeekEOSZ]

The S5, unlike the S1H lacks an Anti-aliasing Filter. No big deal as it's not sporatic thankully, but it's there at times. Interesting, though I've never heard of the Panasonic not shooting Full 10 Bit. The colour reproduction is pretty remarkable, even when compared to 12 Bit External.

[@MaxoticsTV]

@@ZeekEOSZ Aliasing filters add a small amount of physical blur between pixels. You can't do it post-video because non-RAW video CODECs save debayered image data. That is, if you have a telephone line going through 3 pixels of R,G,B, you're good. But if it only goes through a red and green, then you're going to get that magenta pixel in your video image (the blue pixel having no color say). An aliasing filter blurs all RGB pixels together guaranteeing that you won't end up with no color data for a pixel. However, the aliasing filter's drawback is that if you want absolute resolution it gets in the way, as it add blur that cannot be removed even from a RAW still. Many people throw around the words "dynamic range" and "10-bit color depth" without really thinking about what they're talking about. I'm not saying you do it. It's my little battle on YT. I don't know why I bother, but I do ;) When a camera records RAW it's generally recording 12 to 14-bits of pixel data. Let's talk 12 bit, so 4,096 possible values (counts of electrons). When a camera shoots 8 bit it's NOT recording pixel values, but composite pixel values from three 8-bit RGB values of 1 to 256. The complicated difference between H.264 and RAW generally gets people to stop listening or thinking. Anyway, you can fit 1,024 values into a 10-bit data word. That's certainly better than 256! However, it is recording 1,024 values from the RAW pixel values OR 1,024 values of precision in a 1-256 number range? Well, we know it's not saving it from the RAW because it's NOT RAW it's debayered into a new (24-bit full color) data space. Therefore, what we're really getting is say, 1, 1.3, 2, 3.6... in 10-bit, instead of 1,2,2,4 which gives a precision that can be noticed from less banding in EXTREME pixel peeping. However, the 10-bit is not pulling from a wider dynamic range of pixel values from the RAW data, which is what many people mistakenly assume. I wish more people understood how their cameras work. The manufacturers are not in the business of educating anyone. They're not going to say that a 26mbit image from a cinema camera will blow away a 400mbit image from a GH5 because a sensor made for video is optimized for video (pixels exactly the best size for the intended frame delivery). Shoot one video in 8-bit and another in 10-bit. Compare the file sizes. Is the 10-bit 25% larger than the 8-bit? Also, take that 10-bit internal and 12-bit external, load them in an editor that can deal with each natively (that is, not convert the 12-bit raw down to 8bit) and pull the exposure around and see which one falls apart like a cheap suit ;) Then compare the 12-bit raw to 8-bit and see if the 8bit is any worse than the 10-bit. All that said, if you can expose well, have balanced lighting, then you're right, I'm sure the color is great! What I'm talking about has ZERO to do with shooting good video.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Interesting, thanks a lot for sharing 😎👍💯 Its really all great information, I just think that in the end, people really don't care about looking under the rock. As long as the image looks good to them upfront and the fancy specs are presented, they'll take it. If the camera does the job in the end, then it's worth every penny. I get what you mean though. Lots of cameras come out these days like a manufacturer war instead of consumer education etc...😎👍

[@joseandresmiranda5721]

Thanks for the video, also for me the S5 is a really good camera, but I consider selling it because with the firmware update 2.0 that they did to the S1 it has better performance for almost the same price (If it gets used), one of the features that I need most in the manual selection of the circuit for the ISO, many times it works very well to use ISO 4000 which is the second ISO offered by the S5, but I have found many scenarios where I would like to be in the high circuit and lower the ISO to give more dynamic range to the shadows and not as much of the highlights is needed

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I like the S1 better too! The updates have really given it a big leap.

[@NaliamCantero]

Nice breakup words. You are a fenomenal camera!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

😎🤙

[@MILOSDONI]

I wait for solving problem with bmccp4k autofocus, quality with Helios and sirui lenses is awsome. Sony a7 mark iii cant had that quality.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Every camera has it's limitations, some more than others. Helios is the go-to haha, 🎥🔥🔥

[@Alexrocks1253]

Zeek, coming back to this video now owning the S5 myself. Does the Aliasing go away when the 6K footage is downscaled to 4k in the editor? Thanks!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

The footage you were looking at were all downscaled to 4K. Only the S1H and BS1H fix this because of the sensor and low pass filter. It's not a huge deal, but it can look wierd if seen clearly.

[@Alexrocks1253]

@@ZeekEOSZ it makes sense how this would happen in raw then since I’m sure the compressed video is doing processing to get rid of it. It’s interesting how something that improves sharpness for photos could make the video have artifacts (removing the aa filter)

[@Alexrocks1253]

Zeek, this camera with kit lens and the Fuji XT4 with the kit lens are the same price right now. Which is more bang for buck? Coming from Bmpcc4k and trying to get some smaller file sizes :)

[@ZeekEOSZ]

It'll be for you, a choice of Full Frame vs Aps-C . Both have micro HDMI. There are much more Fuji-X lenses out there and more at an affordable price as well as variety. Both will produce exceptional 4K. Fuji might also have slightly better AF. Both will have big file sizes, consider they shoot high Mbps. But you can change the 4K settings to reduce the sizes.

[@Alexrocks1253]

@@ZeekEOSZ thanks!

[@gcprost]

I have two GH5’s and I was considering add this camera to my kit. I’m not concerned about the anti alias, as you can fix this in post. I think I will buy a third GH5.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

From the GH5, the S5 felt right at home, just full frame and slightly more DR. If that's no priority, the GH5 is still good 👌

[@ianbee1959]

Why buy 3 copies of the Same camera? Seems like a waste of money, no?

[@gcprost]

@@ianbee1959 No, I do Multicam video.

[@ianbee1959]

@@gcprost ohh My bad

[@sudheshsankarkk]

Thanks for sharing 🙏

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem!

Gracias, no había escuchado los problemas.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No hay problema. Esta cámara sigue siendo muy bonita, solo depende de tus necesidades.

[@Zmar.Photos]

Selling my s5 for the z cam e2 s6, hopefully I’m choosing the right choice

[@navinchandru7948]

[Question] - I’m planning on buying a Panasonic s5 for pro video and I would like to know if Samsung ssd would work for external recording? Official external recording for the camera is Atmos V…

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yes you need Samsung EVO PLUS or PRO SSD for Atomos Recording. These are what I use. 😎👍

[@stephanes.]

Crazy that you keep answering my existential questions!! I was thinking about buying one or a A7C! So now I know it is better to go for the A7C or even the GH5...! thank you very much bro !!!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Lol 🤣 Depends what you plan on using them for. The A7C honestly does the job if you want FF. Otherwise the A6400 is fine with also great AF. 🎥💯🔥

[@stephanes.]

@@ZeekEOSZ Yes the A6400 is great! But I just want a very good low light camera. I'm struggling with noise and I'm a run and gun shooter so... Otherwise, I might put a LED on the top of the camera... xD But for cinematic scene with lighting I will be using the 5D II and EOS M in RAW of course 😎

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@stephanes. Yeah, that's understandable 👍

[@Dimm168pin]

Lol, I have 2xgh5 as my main run&gun cameras for weddings. AF system is total disaster, and that's actually only con about this cameras. I have switched many lenses expecting some AF improvements, but nothing actually worked. So that's why I was considering s5 as my B cam for gimbal, and as far as I can see from reviews and tests on YT it's not that good as A7C. But 7C has only 1 SD slot and 1080 60 mode looks horrible, same as a6400 a6500 a7iii etc. So for now I stuck with gh5 and 15mm 1.7 panaleica or 14 2.5pancake. I do believe Panasonic will improve AF In GH6.. I also have an old workhorse a7sii, which has a good 1080 60, but screen is unusable, 1slot and tiny battery and AF is actually a little bit more reliable, but still not enough for gimbal work..

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@Dimm168pin GH5 is still Awesome 😎👌🎥🔥

[@johnwilcox7826]

Thanks for great video I am thinking of getting the s5 but concerned about aliasing and moire When recording 4k or FHD internally did you witness any of these Thanks

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Internally it's fine! I did notice one coast but it was very rare. ProRes Raw was definitely more pronounced on certain shots like staircases.

[@MrMugimo]

Zeek, great video as always. What is your current KZbin set up? Do you have a video how to get a good affordable audio for beginners?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Current YT Setup is Sony A7C. I mix lenses around, but mainly the Sony 28-70 Kit, or Zeiss 24-70 F4, then sometimes some other vintage lens. I use Rode Wireless GO and can highly recommend them starting out. I used them in this video as well as all my others.

[@MrMugimo]

@@ZeekEOSZ where did you place it on your shirt 👔,I can’t see it in the frame? Do you add lavalier mic to it or build in mic is good enough? Thank you

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@MrMugimo Sometimes I hide a Lavalier and sometimes I just place a mic above my head which is what I did in this case with the Rode Wireless GO.

[@MrMugimo]

@@ZeekEOSZ wow, I’m surprised, really good quality. Thank you

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@MrMugimo No problem. By the way the sound wasn't edited at all, just turned up the volume a bit. Highly recommend the Rode wireless GO. 👍

[@leofreitas.video_]

Hello friend, congratulations on your work, keep helping the community. I'm curious to test a raw file on this machine would you have any to make available?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

You mean like a raw video or photo file? Video files are in the description.

[@jsyap]

Nice review and points. For the 4k video quality and low light iso performance, how much better is the S5? i am torn between the a7c and S5.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Not much better at all in my opinion. I mean the 10 Bit is fantastic, but the AF and size with the A7C is Excellent. All my latest videos are made with the A7C, it's my workhorse. I could imagine tiring out from converting the H.265 files each time before editing. The 4K and colour on the S5 is very good, but I'd much prefer the Combo of a Sony A7C & the Original BMPCC for example.

[@jsyap]

@@ZeekEOSZ Thanks for the quick reply and information. Appreciate it. i plan to buy a video camera for travel video, the reason i consider the a7c is due to the smaller form factor and also much more lens to choose from. If the S5 is not that much better in terms of video quality, then a7c for me it is then.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

This entire video was made with the A7C, so too are all my Vlogs & KZbin vids: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWGvq3ykrM6Dprs Such a great companion. 🎥🔥

[@FathomSoundProAudio]

Did you happen to test its AF with either the 2.0 (Nov 24, 2020) or 2.1 (Dec 22, 2020) firmware updates?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I can't remember what firmware it was on tbh. I did update it though.

[@GoldenCoastGTA]

Next video: Why I bought the S5 Mk II

[@Aviciiz]

Do you prefer the Colors of Panasonic over the A7C?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Very slightly yes. Though moreso the bit depth, 10-Bit over 8-Bit.

[@djteknovibe93]

The Nikon Z6II has damn good autofocus not as good as Sony but close, plus when recording 10bit video externally using the Atomos Ninja V the video quality is brilliant. One of my favourite cameras though is the Sony A7RIII it's got excellent autofocus, brilliant photo image quality and excellent video quality.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Thanks for sharing. Yeah, NIkon Z series can do wonders with prores RAW, especially with the colour science and latitude. :)

[@OurFantasyLife]

Love my S5, but I actually find myself reaching for my A7iii for most of my stuff, believe it or not. I'll probably never actually sell my S5 though, it just has too much going for it, and I absolutely love handling it. Sadly it'll probably just sit on the shelf though, since the corners that Panasonic cut to bring it in at under $2,000 all happen to be things that I rely on heavily for my content creation. You used the perfect word - "trust". I can't trust the HDMI, I can't trust the autofocus for talking head stuff...I just don't have that same confidence in the S5 that I have in my Sony bodies, sadly.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I honestly loved the Panny S5. I just recently got the R6 and with C Log 3 I can match the Panasonic S5 Look. They look about identical, just now with Dual Pixel AF. As for the Micro HDMI, hate it! But...you can now get a Smallrig Micro HDMI to HDMI Converter which works wonders!! 👍🎥🔥

[@OurFantasyLife]

@@ZeekEOSZ the only reason I can't go Canon is the recording limit, otherwise I would have gone all in! My wife has the m50 and loves it, but we use our A cam to record podcast material as well which can regularly go longer than 30 minutes. If that wasn’t the case the RP actually would have been a “good enough” A cam for us, especially since I have a lot of old EF glass sitting around.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@OurFantasyLife Yeah right, stick with the Sony then 🎥👌

[@josuenunez5353]

Did you experience Aliasing while shooting ProRes files out of the Panasonic S5? I'm interested in getting the S1 becasue of the more affordable price and honestly, better build and full HDMI. I don't care really care about the Raw codec.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Aliasing was present with the Atomos on certain scenes, never saw them internally though. S1 may be the better choice, especially with the professional Full Sized HDMI. Also probably feels more premium. 😎👍

[@josuenunez5353]

Zeek. Yea! I got to try an S1 and I was really impressed by the build. I would imagine that Aliasing would be more present on the raw format. When I used to own the pocket 4K I had more artifacts when shooting braw.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yes exactly. I also used to own the Pocket 4K and noticed it too in BRAW. With the Pocket 6K, I'm yet to find anything. It's super clean.

[@andersistbesser]

i dont understand the complaining about panasonic af. for vlogs and real life situations it is more than good enough, at least for me. black magic cams have no continous af at all and they are big sellers anyway. you cant get a better cam for 2000 than the s5.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

It's not reliable, especially with the pulsing. It's definitely not the worst, but compared to Sony and Canon, they are behind. Just whish they could make that breakthrough because it's a great company, and the cameras are great. I like the S1 better than the S5, and it's built better + Full HDMI. It's also about $300 cheaper in my country than the S5.

[@eltinjones4542]

Don't do video but what about photography? I have a GX9 and was thinking of the G9 but am looking at the S5 now

[@ZeekEOSZ]

For photography, it's very good!!

[@kentjensen4504]

You’re making a video about why you sold a camera? Not about what you switched to?

[@Ansuf85]

You earned +1 thumb up !!! As you bought recently black magic pocket, are you willing to do some videos about it ?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I love the Pocket 6K, I use it as much as my M. Love them Both. I am going to do more vids with the Pocket 6K too. Also want to test more travel videos with it. Just having really bad weather at the moment, lots of rain.

[@OriginaldoBo]

The glitches you see from the Ninja I’ve figured it out. I ran test after test it was driving me nuts. If I press the record button on the camera then record on the Ninja no glitches. If I record to the ninja but not on the SD card at the same time the glitches would appear. My guess is something is occurring when that button is pressed.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Thanks 👍I used timecode though, I'd always press from the camera which would then trigger record on the Ninja though. Who knows.

[@thebossnocompetition8757]

So i have watched i few other videos with the S5 but colors are nowhere near as good as you get here. whats the secret? how did you get those punchy vibrant yet natural colors,that almost looks like you are watching in HDR and wide color gamut?

[@amritgangakiran]

HONEST REVIEW , AND LOOK AT THE 5:48 STUTTERING HAPPENING , ITHINK THIS WAS MY DOUGHT .

[@ColGadarby]

I have had the S5 for a few days now - and I have been disappointed in the AF. That is my biggest gripe. I am going to switch to the A7iii I think.

[@brysimm404]

What lens did you use? Not a particularly sharp one it seems.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No, mainly vintage Zeiss jena lenses, didn't bother spending the big dollars on the L-Mount native glass. But I've used it with the Sigma ART 50mm before and quality is pin sharp.

[@carlito1860]

Hi Zeek, Nice video! I have a question about the aliasing issue. I've heard it doesn't appear shooting 4k internally. But can it appear in the Full HD uncropped modes? Thanks a lot.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

It has appeared in the internal footage once with a metal since, but very lightly. That was it. ProRes Raw was more pronounced.

[@usioproductions1823]

I can’t open the file I’m stuck help

[@DjVuyoUmlungu]

Ok. You sold the Panasonic S5. But what do you use instead now?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I use the Pocket 6K and EOS M for Cinematic Stuff, and a Sony A7C for KZbin Content.

[@MinimalWave1982]

with what did u record this video, your face is very nicely exposed, love the image.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Haha I actually don't like it looking back. I used the A7C with Cine 4 PP. I currently now use the ZVE10 + Slog 3 for KZbin which I like better.

[@dwanelkemprai4983]

as you mentioned its not full frame anamorphic, so do you suggest sirui 35mm f1.8

[@ZeekEOSZ]

If you think that you will shoot anamorphic often, then the Sirui would make sense for Full Frame RAW. It is about 1.33x stretch so it won't have the character obviously of 2x stretch anamorphic. I like 2x stretch more, but it's up to you.

[@Micah041]

Why didn't you gave it to me

[@josejoselete6156]

Did you shoot the downloadable footage with internal image stabilization?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yes 👍

[@josejoselete6156]

@@ZeekEOSZ wow, its really poor, im regretting selling my gh5. i guess you were not using dual is using lumix lens.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@josejoselete6156 No, vintage lens as it's an L-Mount not M43 Mount. The focal length may not have been set correctly for the IBIS, but I've owned the GH5 and the S5 feels the exact same.

[@DanielM1224]

Do you recommend it mainly for stills?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Yes indeed. Its very nice. But tbh, even the Canon M50 can take amazing stills. E.g. instagram.com/p/CXWDdDlvbdi/?

[@cOcOmOo92]

2:17 I also have this horrible banding in skys or very heavy color gradients. Is this still an issue when recorded with the Ninja V?

[@valkiron11]

Shoot 10-bit instead of 8

[@dapunkof1975]

They fixed the glitch problem in a recent update for the S5...

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Amazing news! Great camera then. Hopefully their newer cameras will get good AF, then they'll be killing it!

[@zolen3046]

I really appreciate this video in a moment I'm considering moving from xt3 to s5, do you think is a good move? Also, if I can ask you a question, at 8:19, the footage from the goats, where did you recording internally or trought the ninja V? I can live with the problems you mention due to the lack of antialiasing filter, but those artifacts around the trees are something to care about, wich is a shame because the image, in general, is excellent. Also, did you get those glitches recording internally? And did the AFC work well on photo with the sigma adapter? Finally were a bunch of questions, sorry about that! Cheers

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I would switch to the S1 insted personally because of Full HDMI. If weight is a concern the the S5 is still fine. But if you're only shooting internally both of these will be fine in terms of weight, S1 just feels solid. AF in photo mode will be fine even with the adapter, picture quality is superb! The glitches didn't happen internally, only when recording prores or prores raw with the Atomos Ninja V.

[@zolen3046]

@@ZeekEOSZ Thank you very much!

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@PlummkyHope so! Makes it a great camera then! 😎👌

[@don_tpanic6052]

Did you have some issues with crashed footage? I've heard that you can record for example 20 minutes, come home and realize that your footage was crashed 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LeeBaldwin9]

Can someone please share a link to high-quality wireless microphones that work with this camera?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I had very good experience with rode wireless GO. It's very crisp with the S5 and a good mic.

[@LeeBaldwin9]

@@ZeekEOSZ Thank you so much brother!

[@LeeBaldwin9]

@@ZeekEOSZ I just ordered it for $179 on Amazon is there anything else I need with it?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@LeeBaldwin9 Good price 👍 The better quality mic attached to it the better sound. But clipped onto your shirt is fine. I use Rode NT3 with an XLR to 3.5mm Jack. Quality is insane. Boom it above my head in most of my videos, e.g. in my Sony A7C Review video where I used the Panasonic S5 and this Mic Setup.

[@orkhankazimov734]

Thabk you for video. As i understand you want to sell your s5 becouse the atomos dont work correctly?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem. The Atomos works correctly, but there is a chance of Aliasing appearing in the video, like colorful lines. Also at times there are glitches or dropped frames caused by the Atomos or maybe the HDMI. I've used a range of HDMI Cables, even the Expensive ones from Atomos and there are still Glitches in some cases, though luckily not as frequent. The Cable doesn't work anymore. I like Mini or Full HDMI Better than Micro HDMI to be honest. Feels more secure.

[@Jennifer_Prentice]

I am looking at this camera due to the fact I could afford it as a full frame "Photography" camera. Is there better options out there for still photo use then this? Also I almost always tend to use manual focus prime lenses when at all possible so I am not terribly worried about the auto focus.

[@stephanes.]

Sometimes I even think about the old C100 mark I lol, have you tried it? XLR audio and NDs but no IBIS...

[@ZeekEOSZ]

It's a nice camera, though it has It's drawbacks. I haven't tried it before, but there are more competitive smaller cameras now out there. It's not that heavy, but it is quite bulky if you're planning to take it out each day.

[@stephanes.]

@@ZeekEOSZ Thanks for your advice! I was considering buying one at 500 USD or less, I found one on internet. But I'd rather go on a small Sony model 💥🤩

[@ZeekEOSZ]

@@stephanes. 😉👍

[@FrankyEames]

If you don’t need the small form factor for travel etc or absolutely NEED 10 but 4K the C100ii is still a fantastic cinema camera. I loved using it as much as the S series.

[@IslandFilmMaker]

Thx for you honest and real review! Yes, AF is the camel on Panasonic back! I wonder what it's going to take for their camera division to get their SH*T together and find a solution! This is 2021 man... this is been going on too long!! It's pretty well a given if Panasonic would match Canon's new mirrorless cameras AF system, stop gauging us Diehards with overpriced lenses, they would become s real player in the photo gear game! However, I'm not giving up or selling my Panasonic system until I see what they come up with in the GH6 in the Fall (or whatever they decide to call it). If the AF system in that camera is the same or in any way unreliable, then I'm going to do as you and switch Brands forever as Panasonic will fall further into camera sales oblivion.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

No problem at all. I mean some of their camcorders have got it right with good AF, surely they can at least pass on the genetics to the new cameras they make. If they had great AF, then they would be real competitors to Sony and other brands. Anyway, hopefully new Panny cams will have better AF 🤞

[@avarimihailov5504]

Русские субтитры! Это Круто))) Большое спасибо)

[@ZeekEOSZ]

Совершенно никаких проблем. Надеюсь продолжить это в будущих видео, хотя для исправления перевода требуется время.

[@NowyKurs]

Would S5 also provide 12 Bit just like S1 with new updates?

[@ZeekEOSZ]

S5 does already provide 12 bit with external ProRes raw on the Ninja V. 😎👌

[@NowyKurs]

@@ZeekEOSZ ok. That's why it was not upgraded as much as S1. Ok thanks.

[@ZeekEOSZ]

👍

[@sowrirajanranganathan9427]

Hi I'm new to your camera system sony to some extent..i know... I had plans to buy new stuff of your s5... Have you tried with pro lens system... & ninja v needs hdmi 2.0 cable many deviate while using ... Is that recording 4:2:2 internal or jus 10 bit while going 4 kHDR.... And very much impressed of your clips of s5 apart above model which lumix is at par with A7siii...

[@ZeekEOSZ]

I haven't used Lumix Pro lenses, only Canon L Glass and other vintage lenses. I have used 2.0 and 3.0 speed cables and both have caused issues with the Ninja V, internal is fine. But I believe somebody in the comments mentioned that the issue has been fixed from an update which is good to hear. The S5 does truly compare well to the A7SIII, just missing the AF doped/reliability in comparison to Sony.