Why I Upgraded to a SawStop

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Rings Workshop

Rings Workshop

Күн бұрын

This video is sponsored by SawStop.
In this video I discuss why I finally decided to upgrade my table saw to a SawStop, the top five things I love about this saw and even a couple of things I think they could improve upon on future models.
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@pshep123
@pshep123 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the height of the table issue. At 6'4", the 34" table is painfully low. Would love to see a vid on how you built the platform to raise it.
@FearsomeWarrior
@FearsomeWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Always refreshing videos with the straightforward presentation. Polished like the top of the saw.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@OzSawdustMakers
@OzSawdustMakers 2 жыл бұрын
Great saw mate, love how your channel is progressing and congrats on those massive numbers!!
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate all the support along the way!
@skigglystars9525
@skigglystars9525 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!! Really glad to see you grow towards serious success
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Always look forward to your response! Hope you have a great weekend Skiggly!
@NWGR
@NWGR 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! That saw is my dream saw.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Same here! Feel very fortunate to be able to invest in something like this!
@lucasjw
@lucasjw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great detail and comparison. I’ve not seen a demo of how well the dust collection works or mention of the height before.
@donaldhokanson3321
@donaldhokanson3321 11 ай бұрын
I have the Delta 36-725T2 and am thinking of going with the SawStop so thanks for doing a direct comparison. I'm a musician as well and I just can't afford to lose a finger.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 11 ай бұрын
One of the best investments I ever made.
@dennismacwilliams196
@dennismacwilliams196 2 жыл бұрын
The idea's you have with the saw are Exalent...
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dennismacwilliams196
@dennismacwilliams196 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear... Your channel is really good...
@dougarcher3976
@dougarcher3976 2 жыл бұрын
Ah the American medical system where 3 stitches cost half the price of a SawStop 😂
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@markshipman4864
@markshipman4864 2 жыл бұрын
Another great and pertinent video. I’ve been thinking about pulling the trigger on a SawStop, but haven’t cleared it with my financial advisor. But your arguments are sound. Thanks Chris.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Very happy with mine so far, hope your advisor approves one for you as well!
@101411726
@101411726 2 жыл бұрын
That dust port punch out idea is goddamn brilliant! You should email them these ideas.. I bet they’d take them seriously, because they seem easy enough to implement and could increase their sales even more so. Great video, and congrats on the new saw! #Jealous
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I never understood why saws had them in the back, you are guaranteeing a 90 degree turn since no one has their drop behind the blade since boards would hit I. Seems like the sides would make more sense as any 90 degree turn adds friction to you dust collection and reduces airflow.
@101411726
@101411726 2 жыл бұрын
@@RingsWorkshop that’s another great point! Seriously, I hope you contact them about these changes. It’ll be years before I can afford one myself, but maybe by then, they’ll be using these ideas for even better saws
@mkegadgets4380
@mkegadgets4380 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my saw stop for the safety aspect. And I keep it because how will I use it. The dust collection right underneath the blade is really nice, over the blade dust collection is really nice. Fit and finish also nice. I’m not moving mine around the shop so I did not get the wheel kit and I put my on 2 X 6 laying sideways for the perfect height. Great video keep them coming…
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Should have another in next week or two.
@DIYBuilds
@DIYBuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Did they give you it for free or a discount?
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Discount.
@dougc78
@dougc78 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the 3 hp Saw Stop for two years and I love it but I still wanted to see your video. I have to say you’re dead on with all of the positives. I originally had a Delta Unisaw that I got in the 90s so apprehension was at the top of my list when I was looking to make a change (safety being the major driver). But since I’ve gone to the Saw Stop I have never looked back. The build quality is top notch, the accuracy out of the box was dead on. The only negative that I’ve seen is that the metal compound of the table must be different in some manner because it is prone to rust. Most of my tools are/were Delta and I’ve had them since the 90s. I’ve lived in New Mexico and currently in Arizona which is obviously dry but they’ve never rusted. Within about six months of owning the Saw Stop I started to experience rust on the table top. I did discuss it with Saw Stop but they had no constructive input other than to say, “metal will rust, here’s how you clean it.” 🤦‍♂️ But beyond that I’ve never regretted buying it.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Love it so far, broke some a bunch of plywood yesterday for a cabinet and it cut like butter and was amazing how big of a difference going from a 30”-36” table/fence made.
@robertkrueger3902
@robertkrueger3902 10 ай бұрын
Hello and thank you for the helpful content. I am in the nearest of futures going to be picking up the PCS 3hp 36 fence . So I have a question on how you were able to raise the saw up to work with your outfield table. I like you have my home built MFT track saw system that is just a bit too tall as configured and I would rather not build a new one right off the bat. If push comes to shove I'll build a new table but you mentioned you were able to raise your saw up so how did you pull that off. Thank you.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 9 ай бұрын
I built a 3” platform that I placed inside the mobile base and then set the saw on top of that. Using 3/4” plywood and a 2x4s, then painted it black to match.
@mbanda4260
@mbanda4260 10 ай бұрын
My friends and I took us a day to set up my sawstop and yes we did read the directions. That’s what they’re therefore so maybe you got a defective one or you should’ve read the directions first and as far as the quality it was great so don’t blame the sawstop if you choose not to read the directions first. And if it was damaged upon delivery, that’s with the shipping company not with the manufacturing company maybe it’s just where you live that inadequacies exist.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
What are you referencing? I thought the directions were very well done and the quality was top notch. Not sure why you are getting the impression I said otherwise.
@Ender_Wiggin
@Ender_Wiggin 5 ай бұрын
Why answer is at 4:40 safety. While safety is valid concern I really hate sawstops business model business practices. They first went on a patent spree on how to make table saw safe then used the one that would make them the most money with destroying the blade. They had an excellent working prototype and patent for another version that had reusable cartridges and would not destroy you blade but they killed it so they could make more money. There was concern about their business practices when it came out but now it seem everyone has forgot.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 5 ай бұрын
They also tried to sell their idea to other major table saw companies and no one took them seriously and declined their idea so they went and made their own saw. I have no knowledge on the other concept you speak of but I would assume if they didn't go with that anyone else would be able to make said safety mechanism and haven't, so not sure how viable it is. Their patent runs out soon so we will see.
@aaronmiller6043
@aaronmiller6043 2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video.. Very well thought out and insightful.. There was no hot dog ran through which at first I was disappointed, however after further review I saw when that brake trips you actually have to replace the blade assembly.. So I give you a pass on that one.. ;) Keep it up man!!
@noobhunter3000
@noobhunter3000 2 жыл бұрын
That‘s the most american reason to switch to a sawstop 😅 I‘m glad to live in Germany where the very last thing I have to think about after reaching into a sawblade is how to pay for medical treatment. Great video nevertheless, I‘m bingewatching your channel since I found it two days ago.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yup. Thank you, hope you enjoy it!
@b3brewers589
@b3brewers589 2 жыл бұрын
I went from a Dewalt Jobsite saw to Sawstop 3hp 52in, wow was that a change. My only slight irritant is the jack in the mobile base. After a few months it would no longer lift and had to be adjusted again every couple of months. As mine is constantly being moved it was a real pain to get down there with a stack of hex keys and adjust it when I just wanted to make a quick cut. I think i finally got it dialed in but it was 2 years of that. Support suggested i keep fiddling with it, they weren't wrong.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep that in mind, no issues so far but I haven’t had it near that long.
@tobysewell7699
@tobysewell7699 2 жыл бұрын
I have thought that same thing for a couple years of using the Saw Stop. Saw Stop needs to do something about the height adjustment and make the saw taller...Great review......BTW just found your channel and like your content
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that.
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac 2 жыл бұрын
Argggg!! Next thing you’ll tell us is that you got a Festool Domino?! I remember watching Norm and thinking (as millions of other woodworkers did), yea sure.... I could make that too if I had all the cool tools he has.... haha. Congratulations! Wish I had one! Especially since I already cut two fingers off with my dado set by being over confident.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah I don’t intend on buying a bunch of other fancy tools, this was my big purchase. Safety was a big thing for me and I figured if I was going to invest in that part of it, I may as well do it right and not look back 2-3 years from now wishing I had done it different. That’s awful you lost two of your fingers! Also, Norm isn a legend. I remember watching New Yankee Workshop while other kids were watching cartoons. Was so satisfying to watch him work!
@Murf_Workshop
@Murf_Workshop Жыл бұрын
you got me at favorite band, I'm a thrasher too haha, I listen to Slayer, Metallica, Testament, Exodus, and Megadeth when I'm working.......and also plenty of country
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen Slayer four times, 3 with Hanneman, once on their fairwell tour. First concert ever for me was Morbid Angel, Slayer & Pantera. Not a bad lineup.
@Murf_Workshop
@Murf_Workshop Жыл бұрын
@@RingsWorkshop Hell yeah, I've seen them four times as well, two with Jeff. Awesome videos man . Your Drill press table attachment as the drill press dust solution have been my favorite two videos. I ended up building the drill press table attachment and I'm looking to build the dust solution attachment for my press as well. For the past few years I've been using a Dewalt jobsite Table Saw planted into a work table I built myself. It works very well, but cleaning it or maintenance can be tricky when you have to remove a few things. Dust Collection is one of those tricky issues you're constantly trying to fix. Because of that this video is giving me an itch to save for a SawStop, your rundown of the features have probably been more in depth than other KZbin channels that utitilize one. And as far as displaying the overall functionality of your saw I enjoyed it. I did not know they come with a Router table attachment. I cut a slot for a router station on the side of my table saw using a Rockler attachment and a custom dust hood, but that SawStop looks better designed. Awesome work. I'm glad to see your channel has grown. recording woodworking videos and editing do take ALOT of time. I'm trying to get the hang of it and I admit it is much work. Great job on your part. I'm glad I subscribed.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@Murf_Workshop thank you so much! Ya I have been slacking, been almost a year since I posted. Hoping to have one go up in next couple weeks but I keep having stuff pop up, just need to video edit but it’s a pretty complex one so I don’t want to rush it and miss something. Thanks for the kind words, means a lot! Good luck with yours as well, it’s a lot of work but worth it for sure once you get it going.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@Murf_Workshop thank you so much! Ya I have been slacking, been almost a year since I posted. Hoping to have one go up in next couple weeks but I keep having stuff pop up, just need to video edit but it’s a pretty complex one so I don’t want to rush it and miss something. Thanks for the kind words, means a lot! Good luck with yours as well, it’s a lot of work but worth it for sure once you get it going.
@MHI.creations.workshop
@MHI.creations.workshop Жыл бұрын
Hey, Chris! Great video 👍🏼 Care to share how you reached out to SawStop, what they required of you, etc? My husband wants to get me the job site pro (because my old Craftsman is just downright dangerous!), but I was hoping to wait a bit til I’m actually established and maybe pick up some sponsorship along the way first. Mind sharing some pointers? P. S. - it’s great to see how you’ve taken off on here!!!
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks Teri, been a minute!! Shoot me an email, I can give you the contact I used!
@snakeguy86
@snakeguy86 2 жыл бұрын
Nice saw the reason everyone has them is they give them away like candy or discounted
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Some yes, but I know plenty of people that paid full price and love them. KZbinrs that ended a previous sponsorship to switch over and pay more for one when they already had a nice saw. It’s more than just discounts.
@stevenkrause3907
@stevenkrause3907 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody have experience using a shark guard on a sawstop? I'm planning to buy a PCS as soon as I finish the $^$%#@!! epoxy paint on my basement floor, but wondered if I should keep my leftover shark guard, or get the sawstop blade guard/dust collection.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I do not, sorry, I have heard good things though.
@Zamboni-0805
@Zamboni-0805 2 жыл бұрын
You can use a hole saw and drill out your own dust port...then modify it so it can connect to the hose. easy-peasy
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I may do that at some point, but I didn’t to do a bunch of mods to a saw in a review video.
@FridayWorkshop
@FridayWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
We want a saw stop so bad. Not going to lie ha. We’re super jealous.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend it, been planning and saving a while for it!
@jhirn2957
@jhirn2957 2 жыл бұрын
Steve Ramsay would secretly use a saw stop too if his whole purpose wasn’t to make everyone in the world invested in woodworking. I am years away from investing in a better saw. Hope my Ryobi doesn’t cut off a finder before then haha.
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Thought that too. My table saw costs more than the rest of my larger power tools combined haha. But it’s also the most dangerous so was a worthy investment for me
@zafarsyed6437
@zafarsyed6437 2 жыл бұрын
NICE! Congrats! Happy for you, but also slightly jealous...
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate it! Today is actually the first day I’ve got to push it a bit with a bigger projects vs smaller stuff. Love it! Need to get my dust collection set back up though haha!
@zafarsyed6437
@zafarsyed6437 2 жыл бұрын
@@RingsWorkshop Please, do definitely set the dust collection going... not worth testing things without. It's the PCS 3 hp? Yeah, I'd say that you'd still have to take anything over 10/4 in 2 passes. At 14/4 walnut or mahogany, my friend had to take 3 passes and swore at me when I reminded him that I recommended the 5hp for that very reason... "What do you know- you're still doing things on a jobsite saw!!" True- but I've worked in shops that had 3, 5, 7.5, 10, and 12 hp saws and anything over 8/4 will eventually need more power to cut through... that and a strong enough dust collector 😉
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@zafarsyed6437 ya it’s the 3HP. I had the DC hooked up but it’s through a long flex hose as half of mine is torn apart and I want to get the overarm up and going.
@zafarsyed6437
@zafarsyed6437 2 жыл бұрын
@@RingsWorkshop If you haven't already gotten some, or already done so, maybe reach out to Rockler? They love seeing their blue flex on YT. But maybe only if you're as excited as Chris from "A Glimple Inside" about having blue... Since a fan of black/red... maybe Armor tool makes flex hose? 🤔
@TheWrinkledCheese
@TheWrinkledCheese 2 жыл бұрын
I use a 70s rockler/beaver tablesaw. I'm a hobbyist and I'm not trying to push out projects. I'm trying to make a few gifts a year; update my home here and there; fix my friend's sagging drawers due to failed hardware, etc. Saw stop is a pro tool trying to get sales. Respect the tool; own the tool. Respect electricity, don't get electrocuted. Respect speed, don't crash & burn. My tablesaw is older than me.
@joewhite917
@joewhite917 2 жыл бұрын
Most of them were given the saws by Saw Stop
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure some did, but not all. It was the saw I wanted all along, them agreeing to a sponsorship just allowed me to get it sooner than later. Another example is once Wood Whsiperer’s sponsorship with PowerMatic expired he switched over instantly and sold off his PowerMatic.
@fassst6
@fassst6 2 жыл бұрын
Having a hard time understanding why you tout the safety features of the saw as being so important to you, yet you make repeated cuts without the guard in place. What is the reasoning for removing an important safety device, especially as you say "that's the number one reason you invested in a sawstop"?
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Because I find them being more in the way and boards catching on them at times, and narrow pieces I cannot cut with a push stick and the guard in place. I’ve removed it on every saw I’ve had, as do a lot of people. Safety is extremely important, but I consider the board I’m pushing doing what I expect it to do being more safe than questioning if it is going to get caught on something and possibly having to react or adjust unexpected. I keep the riving knife in place to avoid kick back, if I feel my hands are getting too close I use a push stick.
@fassst6
@fassst6 2 жыл бұрын
@@RingsWorkshop thanks for your reply
@TheLukemcdaniel
@TheLukemcdaniel 2 жыл бұрын
I thought my headphones had broke for a second there...
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@TheLukemcdaniel
@TheLukemcdaniel 2 жыл бұрын
@@RingsWorkshop The music only came out one ear at the very beginning. Took a second to realize it was intentional
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh that makes sense!
@V1N_574
@V1N_574 2 жыл бұрын
people have 4 hours a night for watching tv??? dang!
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I do not myself, did as a kid growing up though. Studies say US households average over four hours a day as of end of last year, so still holds up hahaha.
@V1N_574
@V1N_574 2 жыл бұрын
Well honestly I don't watch TV because my free time is on youtube on channels like yours. This is way better tham anything on TV so thanks for you content man. I really want to buy a small sawstop but is really hard to get one here in Puerto Rico. However I heard that their patent expired this year like in november 2021 so I hope that by 2022 other brands adapt the security feature and I can get another brand that is available in my island with the safety of a sawstop.
@HomesteadDIY
@HomesteadDIY 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll acknowledge SawStop is a quality saw, but I’ll never buy one for 2 reasons: it’s ridiculously overpriced and I’ll never forgive them for trying to force the entire table saw industry to adopt its safety features through regulation. SawStop almost single-handedly destroyed the availability of low cost table saws for homeowners, hobbyists and weekend warriors. I’ll never buy one of their saws because of it
@RingsWorkshop
@RingsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I respect anyone’s decisions on why they don’t purchase a certain brand for their own reasons. I also thought it was over priced until I researched them a lot more and once I received it and put it together I no longer thought that at all, well worth every cent even at full retail imo. I’ve heard so many different versions on how the history went down of the patent that I won’t comment on that as I really don’t have an opinion on it.
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