Why SawStop? My Table Saw Accident + SawStop PCS Setup

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Workshop Edits

Workshop Edits

Күн бұрын

Today, on Workshop Edits, I'd like to tell you about my own table saw accident, discuss my own experience with SawStop, and walk you through a group of key features I looked at it when upgrading to the Professional Cabinet Saw model.
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👍🏼🩸My Table Saw Finger Accident (Minor NSFW warning...):
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Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
1:20 - My Table Saw Accident
2:24 - My SawStop Setup
3:18 - Safety System
4:27 - Dust Collection
5:21 - Full Cast Iron Table Top
6:54 - Industrial 360° Mobile Base
9:49 - T-Glide Fence System
12:09 - 36" Cutting Capacity
14:35 - Upgrading to 240V / 3HP
16:23 - Summary of Upgrade Features
19:07 - Outro and Final Thoughts
🗜 SawStop Models
36” Professional Cabinet Saw: amzn.to/3cr1dJO
30" Contractors Saw: amzn.to/2Luh91q
220V Extension Cord
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Thanks for watching!
Zach

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@jonathantinaco9655
@jonathantinaco9655 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one... im planing to buy a sawstop, can i buy online? How?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Check the amazon links below or in the description for the two Sawstop models I discuss: 36” Professional Cabinet Saw: amzn.to/3cr1dJO 30" Contractors Saw: amzn.to/2Luh91q
@MiguelPalaviccini
@MiguelPalaviccini 4 жыл бұрын
You answered so much! Thanks for putting this together. Without having a saw in front of me to check out its nice to see the big differences between the different models and knowing what is worth the extra money!
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
Forsure! Something I wish I knew a few years ago!
@bryanbatts
@bryanbatts 3 жыл бұрын
What a great explanation!!! I have been to the website before and didn’t understand what each option really meant, your break down really puts it in simple terms. You saved me a lot of money, from having to buy things twice. Thanks
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers - feel free to send me a DM on IG if you have any extra questions. Always happy to help people learn and stay safe
@scottvillalobos8453
@scottvillalobos8453 3 жыл бұрын
No need to apologize for having a great tool. I'm inspired.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@NathanWatne
@NathanWatne 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, man! Very thorough and well articulated. Sounds like an awesome saw!
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jamieself3949
@jamieself3949 Жыл бұрын
This was a very nice video. Your comments were very thoughtful and well structured. You obviously spent a lot of time thinking about what you wanted to say and the best way to say it. Well done!! You answered all my questions. I think I am going to purchase the same saw! thank you.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits Жыл бұрын
Thanks! A video many years in the making - would love your support in purchasing through my link in the description if you’re gonna get the same saw! Cheers
@takeniteasyfriend
@takeniteasyfriend 3 жыл бұрын
👍The table accuracy matched with the safety sold me on this. Excellent review on personal experiences.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@michaelkolozsvari3575
@michaelkolozsvari3575 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I appreciate you going through all the features of the version you purchased. After the fence slipped on my cheap table saw, I decided to upgrade, and one might say I splurged on a SawStop, since the majority of my woodworking up to that point could have been done on a router and miter saw. However, I saw it as at least a 10-20 year investment, so that made my SawStop like an extra $50-100 a year insurance policy. Since my kids are in High School and above, it also gives me piece of mind when they want to do a project that includes doing something on the table saw. I got the contractor model, and I've been very happy with it so far. Just like you, one of my favorite features was the addition of the T-Glide fence. It's magical compared to fences on other saws! I actually did a readjustment on it the other week, and it was SO EASY! One thing I'd suggest is looking at the JessEm Clear-cut TS stock guides. Essentially rolling featherboards with a one way feed to prevent kickback. Like the T-Glide fence they're a bit pricey, but they hold the piece down, and direct it towards the fence (though not perfectly). At least for me, they allow me to reduce the things I'm thinking about during a cut, and I'd be curious on your opinion. The one thing I did find in my research is that you shouldn't leave them in your shop if it gets too hot, as that can break down the material on the wheels.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input. When I bought my first SawStop and when I was looking to upgrade, I 100% saw it as an insurance policy for myself and a 20+ year tool so all of the extras were a well-worth investment. SawStop did help me by supporting the channel and making the cost of this saw much more feasible for me, but as stated in the video, I bought my Contractor version 100% on my own dime so overall it was just a huge safety and quality of life upgrade. I have a MagSwitch featherboard that I don't show in this video but have in my most recent ones that I really like, and I'm grateful to now have it as it suddenly makes it feel even safer, and it fits perfectly on the big T-Glide fence. Thanks again for watching and sharing your experience!
@carlbrothers
@carlbrothers 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! This is exactly what I was looking for.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
gret! glad I could help - DM on IG if you have any other questions I didn't cover.
@LuisAlvarado-pu2id
@LuisAlvarado-pu2id 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I am planning to order one tomorrow. I am getting the 1.75HP with 110V and adding a router table with all cast iron and ICS. Thanks for all the great information which helped making my decision.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome choice!
@markgado8782
@markgado8782 2 жыл бұрын
Your simple answers are very helpful. Thanks. 🤠👍
@lobird23
@lobird23 3 жыл бұрын
informative review. I picked up my sawstop today. This information is useful to me. Thanks.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
very smart move
@decuevas244
@decuevas244 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you did great! I haven't had the fortune of owning this saw, yet... (don't get married at 23) I'm 55. I know what's important as a carpenter of 38yrs. All the points were completely valid. You're on a fantastic trajectory! Keep with that inner voice, it has more to say about more than you know! Really great job! Anticipation! Sincerely, david
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@petenelson8136
@petenelson8136 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, just purchased the exact same saw, waiting for it to arrive. Good info.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 7 ай бұрын
enjoy!
@na2305
@na2305 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I'm glad this saw works for you and makes "you" feel safe.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
why did you put "you" in quotes...
@seagnatprepper9613
@seagnatprepper9613 3 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the video ... I'm upgrading to the same saw you have in this video. I know i will like it as well.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice! If you buy via the affiliate link in the description that helps me out a lot...
@CPBuilds
@CPBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
My friend got a SawStop and it saved his finger/hand one of the first times he used it...I honestly think it was the first time using it for a project. Nice video.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
That’s wild. But also a best case scenario!
@appalachianmountaindesigns7713
@appalachianmountaindesigns7713 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative. Thanks for sharing. Until next time. *Chris*
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - hope it helped share so new information!
@bobesposito2204
@bobesposito2204 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. That’s the exact saw I was planning to get when I expand my shop this year. Did you get the overhead dust extraction as well? Would like to know how effective that is.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I did not get it. I have a 4” dust collector so not sure how effective it would be with both it and the regular port hooked up. Prob worth it though!
@lisaalbrecht7900
@lisaalbrecht7900 4 жыл бұрын
Very informational! Thanks!
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
yup!
@vciq
@vciq 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video !
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@TheJeffritchie113
@TheJeffritchie113 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I plan to purchase this saw soon. I have a couple of questions on wiring for 240V. How long is the power cord and where should I bring my 240V drop so that it would be closest to the cord.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
sorry for the delay - the cord is 10' long i think so bring down your dropdown wherever is convenient for that; my advice is to also run your dust to it on the same pathway.
@TheMakerDad
@TheMakerDad 3 жыл бұрын
I had my first and hopefully last accident memorial day weekend. partially cut through ring and index of left hand and a chunk of my thumb. Also first and last time I was negligent with my woodworking. Grateful that the damage was mostly repairable. Won't ever close the fist again but I can still build, and have all 5 fingers
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Brutal man. Glad it wasn’t worse
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Zach! Thank you for sharing it with us!💖👌👍😎JP
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Zach! 😎
@jeffr2855
@jeffr2855 2 жыл бұрын
Does the mobile base come with the adapter for this saw or do you have to ask for the kit specifically? This was a great video by the way.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
I am almost 100% sure it comes with the adapter kit since it’s meant to work with both, but if you are ordering I would just ask them on their website chat - they’re super helpful.
@kutncure
@kutncure 3 жыл бұрын
Informative ...great video and audio..thx u...I can only afford the SawStop contractor table 1.75 and it should arrive in 30 days or so..... i was told thank the fence is flimsy in contractor table and there is no upgrade fence! Is this correct? Thxs in advance
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely get the upgraded fence system for the contractor version. I almost did. It would have required me to upgrade the rail system, the fence, and get the 36" melamine block to extend my capacity. At the same time, I was considering upgrading to cast iron wings too. I think it was around $800 all in to upgrade. If you just placed the order, I would call them to modify it - you'll have to make the same upgrades unless you already got the 36" contractors version, then you can skip the melamine extension part, and the cast iron wings are just ab onus. That would be my reco if you're looking for something similar. Since you haven't gotten the saw, I'm sure they can just modify the order so you are paying for the upgraded price, and not something entirely new - if that makes sense.
@olivepressdesign
@olivepressdesign 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you for sharing. (Even though this tool does limit one’s ability to cut hotdogs on the table saw, it nevertheless makes sense to own and use one.)
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
You can actually bypass the safety feature if you know you’re working with material that is compromised or very wet so you can definitely still get your hotdog fix!
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@hollywoodd3191
@hollywoodd3191 3 жыл бұрын
I think if one put a small tray under the saw you could store ketchup and mustard there. Then bypass the safety and you could cut hotdogs and eat lunch right off the cast iron. Maybe even kielbasa. Saves a trip back into the house. Well unless there’s no beer in the shop. Then you have to go back into the house.
@nates8826
@nates8826 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, very informative. FYI: just feedback, you said "cabinet" saw when I think u meant contractor saw twice in the beginning when you when you talked about your first saw. Anyway, you "sold me on the 3hp motor. Do you wish you had the 52" extension instead of the 36"? I don't know y but I feel like I need it, but in reality I think I won't use it that often. Thoughts?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I would have gone 52” if I had the space but it’s a tough fit in a 19x19 garage with all the other things I want in my set up. You’d help me out by buying through my Amazon links below. If not, no worries. Enjoy the saw!
@ureasmith3049
@ureasmith3049 3 жыл бұрын
Smart boy. Good choice.
@moguga6357
@moguga6357 Ай бұрын
Excellent presentation! How square is the fence to the cut?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits Ай бұрын
very accurate - I didn't have to change anything out of the box - its an incredibly high quality machine
@KIKINinHouston
@KIKINinHouston 2 жыл бұрын
great video bro. I'm looking at the 1.75hp but with a 52" table. Not sure about the hp and what is your input on a 52" ?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No real difference if you have the space - my garage just wasn’t big enough for it. I enjoy the extra power though.
@KIKINinHouston
@KIKINinHouston 2 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits thanks for the quick response. I also have to be conscious of the foot print it will make. Just wondering if there is a true or good advantage of a 52".
@dynastywoodworks
@dynastywoodworks 3 жыл бұрын
Ever consider the 3hp ICS? Or even 5hp? What led you back to the PCS?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t need that much power and size as a hobbyist, plus it’s another $2000
@JeanMarieDeschamps
@JeanMarieDeschamps 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice and well done video. I have my PCS on order and waiting for it! Do you mind sharing the breaker size behind your 240V outlet? I have only 20 amps breakers on my 240V lines so I ordered the 1,75 HP model. I wonder if I did a mistake!
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
My 240v outlet is hooked up to 2 15amp breakers i believe. The PCS 3 HP is a single phase, 230v model, and requires 13amps with the NEMA 6-15P plug
@rocksnmortarlb8907
@rocksnmortarlb8907 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 1.75 PCS, put a new Whiteside rip blade on and cut hard maple and walnut, hot knife through butter, literally glided through the wood. I’ve had my saw for over a year now, it’s incredible. No regret at all.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
@@rocksnmortarlb8907 I need to get a new blade on mine actually - I'm assuming that blade is compatible with the safety system?
@Festoos
@Festoos 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i had something happen with my bandsaw where i was just way to tired well operating and cut about 90% through my thumb about a inch down it, the fact that i will never be able to feel anything in the top of my thumb is a big wake up call to not using power tools when bottomed out on energy.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I think its probably obvious to most, if not all woodworkers, but doing anything power tool related if you are tired or after you've had a celebratory beer for the day after a project is just a non-starter for me. I won't touch any of my saw tools - and the most I'll do is drill something if needed quickly. Just not worth it to compromise safety when it can wait till the net day or when you're more alert. Your injury sounds brutal but glad it wasn't worse and glad you can share your story as a learning lesson for others.
@breyleighgegelman4359
@breyleighgegelman4359 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I thought you just upgraded the wings in the last video.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely considered it but the full upgrade was more worth it!
@olivepressdesign
@olivepressdesign 3 жыл бұрын
What did you do with the contractor saw?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I sold it
@jeffm6273
@jeffm6273 3 жыл бұрын
I switched from a cabinet saw to a European style Shop Fox Sliding Table Saw a few years ago. The sliding saws seem as safe to me as you can get, including you are never in the way of wood for kickback when ripping, it's almost impossible to get your hand to the blade, and it's much simpler and safer for making long crosscuts (mine will hold a full 4x8 sheet of plywood).
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Totally - I just don't have the shop space for a saw that big - if I ever do get a bigger space I'd add teh sliding fence for SawStop to mine. Since I rarely and doing anything that big, I'll take the blade tech over the sliding feature any day - but to each their own!
@cerberus2881
@cerberus2881 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago my Shop Teacher was missing 2.5 fingers from a Table Saw accident. That always stuck with me. Years later I nicked my thumb pretty good with a Circular Saw, hopefully that is as bad as it gets for me.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
i've had my share of scares - its a dangerous hobby, that is for sure...
@AndrewJSchneiderJr
@AndrewJSchneiderJr 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the help. Except now my Saw Stop cart is $1000 than it was before I watched this...
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Worth every penny for the extras trust me!
@walesxscarlets
@walesxscarlets 4 жыл бұрын
Out of interest how much training / experience did you have with a table saw before your Injury occurred?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
Very little. A few hours at most (I was aware of the common injuries, how to use push sticks, etc). The injury occurred when I was doing a bunch of repetition and I got lazy without realizing it. Something for everyone to learn from.
@cryptosully2357
@cryptosully2357 3 жыл бұрын
how do you get the base to lift evenly
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean with the industrial mobile base?
@ATopDesignWoodworking
@ATopDesignWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! You have that link for the extension cord?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s in the description? If it’s not please let me know and I’ll repost it. Cheers
@ATopDesignWoodworking
@ATopDesignWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t see it there
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATopDesignWoodworking Just dropped it in the description
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 4 жыл бұрын
I got the 36" contractor saw with the same fence you have now and like it, and I agree there is some dust issues out the bottom, I have not tried to fix that yet. Have you looked into the 4inch above the table dust collector arm yet? I have not yet gotten that/made one. I didnt want to spend the extra money to upgrade the same mobile base you got for your new saw, so I made my own mobile base with four 360 degree wheels though which works great. I made some videos on youtube on my channel for that and so far I am so glad I made it. Thanks for your video. :)
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
Nice - yea I think making the fence upgrades its a big start to feeling like you have a more professional set up. I truly didn't know about the differences when I got mine so there wasn't an obvious difference to the 30" v. 36" T Glide. I did think about trying to make a catch-all box type thing at first but opted out knowing I was looking to upgrade. I haven't looked into the overarm port yet either as I only have a Rocker Dust Collection set up that has 4" ports so unless so upgrade to a 6" system the two 4" ports won't have enough proper suction. Having that 360° set up you have probably makes a great difference too. Thanks for watching and your input!
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 4 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits True just one 4" port will not work as well. I got the laguna pflux 1.5hp which can do two 4" ports. So if/when i get around to doing the overarm piece it should work. So far the dust underneath and above the table are not too crazy for what I have made, so I haven't dealt with it yet. it is still on the list though. I figured out the fence difference by going and seeing it in the one local store, also the rockler support person I talked to mentioned that the 36" is better due to the fence, and resale value, ie no one would want the 30" fence, but if I ever upgrade to the 54", someone would want the 36" fence.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephkrug8579The two upgrades on my list that are future nice to haves but not practical to upgrade right now are a bigger dust collector with 6" power (looking at Jet, Laguna, and other questions) and an X-Carve - I feel like that will round out my shop in a very strong way. To your point, I really wish I had known about the 30" v. 36" benefits when I bought one!
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 4 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits The laguna pflux that I have does do a 6" port if you take the dual 4" port piece. For now I use tools one at a time and just move the hoses around, so I do not need the 6" yet. I really like the pflux, though if I had known what all I would be doing now, I may have gotten the 2hp vs the 1.5. Initially I just needed it to use for my 14-12 bandsaw as the shop vac was not enough suction. But now I have many more tools and could have used the larger one. The one I have works for now though and does a really good job.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephkrug8579 Good to know - cheers!
@funnyguy55able
@funnyguy55able 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and concise summery of the table saw. Take it easy on the high socks though you're way too young for that look.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
I’m much older than I look
@JenEricRalston
@JenEricRalston 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. We are considering the 36” Contractor Saw w/ Iron Wings upgrade (don’t like the stamped panels), or the 36” Professional. $450 difference between the configurations. Thoughts?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
So just between the two 36” models? PCS al the way
@JenEricRalston
@JenEricRalston 4 жыл бұрын
Can you explain what would make it worth the $450? The dust collection potential?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
@@JenEricRalston Dust collection 100%, also just added weight, ability to integrate the Industrial Mobile base - assuming your'e already getting the T Glide fence? Remember, it's a 20+ year saw, so get what you want now knowing it will pay off long term with the added value
@JenEricRalston
@JenEricRalston 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, both with cast iron tops, both 36”, and both with the t-glide. Thoughts on the router table addition? I really appreciate the advice.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
@@JenEricRalston I don't personally have that but that is because I already have a router set up from Rockler and I prefer that routing mobility v. built in. If you're a bit limited with space it seems like a great investment though. cheers
@danbrown6529
@danbrown6529 Жыл бұрын
Is your shop in your basement? Did you have any trouble getting the saw down there?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits Жыл бұрын
My shop is in my two car garage so didn’t run into that issue. I imagine it would take 3-4 people and those moving straps to get it down a set of stairs safely while still in the boxes.
@kenreynolds1000
@kenreynolds1000 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished assembly of that same saw today . I should have got the Ind Mobile base instead of PCS, but it was a complete NIB setup from Craigslist (owner had it 2 years on pallet). More than I wanted to spend, but much less than retail.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
That’s wild you found that kind of deal. Who buys a Sawstop and doesn’t open it for two years??
@kenreynolds1000
@kenreynolds1000 4 жыл бұрын
Workshop Edits I saw his garage. Younger guy with lots of hobbies a little too much money and a couple of young kids. 2800 with dado kit and a spare cartridge.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenreynolds1000 Sounds like you hit the jackpot! A Dado kit w/dado blade is on my short list
@kenreynolds1000
@kenreynolds1000 4 жыл бұрын
Workshop Edits I’ve been doing remodeling and a little woodworking for 30 years. My Ryobi table saw and router table combo bit me on Jan 1. I forgot I had the router plugged into the paddle switch and brushed it when I thought I was turning on the saw. 9 stitches later I was glad it was only a 1/4in. round over bit. That one is going away.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenreynolds1000 Wow - super glad you're okay. My injury was on a Hitachi job site saw - weighed maybe 40 pounds and was super janky (still my fault though!). My next one was a Ryobi job site saw - again super light - felt like it was always going to tip over, no dust collection. HATED IT. If that saw is a 0/10, my SawStop is a 12/10 .
@AGTDesigns
@AGTDesigns 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. It just sucks that we can't get them in Europe. I still don't have a table saw because I'm scared as hell of hurting myself, but I do miss the added capabilities of having a table saw... My track saw is awesome (TS55), but it does not replace fully a table saw. Regards from Portugal!
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
I’m very grateful they’re available to me. It would change a lot about how and what I chose to build if I didn’t feel as safe with the SawStop
@kenreynolds1000
@kenreynolds1000 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. They were bought by Festool a few years ago. You’d think they would jump at the Euro market.
@AGTDesigns
@AGTDesigns 4 жыл бұрын
They did. They just launched a Festool saw with SawStop technology, but it’s more on the portable side and doesn’t have the cast iron top...and it’s super expensive... :(
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
@@AGTDesigns I saw that! I couldn't find if it was just a concept or if it was actually launching, but, it looked super impractical as a functional table saw
@AGTDesigns
@AGTDesigns 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen one in action, Festool was kind to invite me for the Portuguese presentation with a live demo and a hotdog murdering-attempt. :) (check my video on it if you’re interested) It looks good, and can be a nice tool if you do wood flooring, for instance... but for ripping full sheets of plywood or more intense woodworking it’s not the best thing, and I miss the cast iron top... Sawstop contractor saws are much cheaper than that (+3k€) , and don’t offer less...
@jonwikan3986
@jonwikan3986 Жыл бұрын
I don't know your work but dam how do you get a 10 foot piece through your saw? Wall right behind.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits Жыл бұрын
I have 9 feet of clearance between the wall and blade. I’ve never in my life ripped something longer than that. If I need more space I swing the saw around to the adjacent side of the bench since I have the mobile base, but that never is needed.
@roberte.wilson5213
@roberte.wilson5213 3 жыл бұрын
What is the hight of the table in this configuration?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
they all have a standard height - pretty much all table saws do as an industry standard. I think it's around 34", but their website will have exact specs.
@roberte.wilson5213
@roberte.wilson5213 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the hight is stated But without the base. I am wonder what the total hight with that base?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
What base? The saw is one single piece.
@roberte.wilson5213
@roberte.wilson5213 3 жыл бұрын
Thought it was the industrial version my apologies.
@Mrdubomb
@Mrdubomb 3 жыл бұрын
After hearing the underdog story of saw stop, I am determined to buy one as soon as i can afford it. you cant put a price on fingers, especially the ones that keep the wife happy.
@drewmobley3924
@drewmobley3924 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@juancamore05
@juancamore05 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@benpierce3613
@benpierce3613 3 жыл бұрын
Deep down the rabbit hole of safety in woodworking? See any safety glasses in that rabbit hole?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I wear ear protection 100% of the time - I wear it so much that even when I'm not using power tools I end up with it on. Safety glasses are a 90% of the time thing - 100% of the time when I'm using my saws, router, nail guns, etc, and I tend to take them off for non power tool work or drilling/driving. Then a mask for any sanding needs or general dusty times. Cheers
@Gizmoimages
@Gizmoimages 3 жыл бұрын
A month ago I chopped off my ring finger at the first knuckle, and made hamburger meat out of my index and middle finger. Reattached tendons, arteries, and nerves. Trying to rehab as best I can and move on with life. Going to take months and months before it can be determined how much use I can get back in my hand.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that - how did it happen?
@Gizmoimages
@Gizmoimages 3 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits The board kicked back on me and threw my hand into the blade.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry about that - best of luck to you on your recovery
@zilitron2k
@zilitron2k 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I have use Home Depot wood all the time and my current saw is always struggling. Have you thought about getting the over-arm dust collection?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
It’s on my list eventually but it won’t work great with only a 4” dust system.
@waynebooker498
@waynebooker498 2 жыл бұрын
Contractor saws are meant to be portable, so having stamped steel table wings make the saw lighter. It's a very common feature on contractor saws, it is not a flaw, and it is not a mistake. It's just a difference in the table saw category.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense - except the Sawstop contractor saw is 260 pounds and anything but that. And they make a job site saw, so just seems like something they didn’t really update based on what a contractor saw might have been, but with their product lineup, it’s not needed and cheapens it
@waynebooker498
@waynebooker498 2 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits contractors saws came out long before job site saws. They were the portable saws of their day, they just never went away because people still use them as a stationary tool. The steel wing tables also make it less expensive, so careful what you wish for.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynebooker498 that's my point though - they have jobsite saws now, so the contractor model they have is sort of a middle ground that isn't really necessary, but given budget restrictions of folks, at a minimum, should get the cast iron update
@waynebooker498
@waynebooker498 2 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits whatever.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
Stop it Wayne booker
@milesdowning9257
@milesdowning9257 3 жыл бұрын
Good data
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@sumosprojects
@sumosprojects 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they don’t make Mitre Saws ?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure. That seems like a much more difficult safety system to design when you’re the one moving the blade though.
@zilitron2k
@zilitron2k 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure either, but seems like mitre saws are much, much safer than a table saw. The saw pushes the wood down and into the fence; not towards the user. Second, there is nowhere for the blade to drop.
@davidkettell1073
@davidkettell1073 3 ай бұрын
I have never seen a video with someone testing the sawstop with their finger ! why not ? my fingers are not slimy hot dogs and i would never trust technology to keep them attached .
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 ай бұрын
If you want to send me $200 I will do it live but I’m not buying a new premium blade and brake
@RichardRecupero
@RichardRecupero Жыл бұрын
The cabinet isn’t cast iron it’s steel. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one that caught that
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits Жыл бұрын
When did I say the cabinet was cast iron?
@Birdlab
@Birdlab 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you install and use the blade guard? That’s a critical safety component regardless of the blade brake technology. In fact Saw Stop makes it clear that all through-cuts need to be made with the blade guard in place and that users should not rely solely on the blade guard technology.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
The blade guard is incredibly clunky and hindering. SawStop can say what they want, but no one I’ve ever seen uses it and it has nothing to do with the safety system. In fact, for me, it’s so clunky and in the way it makes things more dangerous as you lose visibility and precision with your own hands and push stick. Seems like a very unnecessary critique btw.
@Birdlab
@Birdlab 2 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits You made an excellent video describing your injury and reasons for investing in a SawStop. So it seems odd that you would bypass the blade guard. Blade guards are effective in preventing contact with the blade and it sounds like that was the cause of your injury. I agree with you that most KZbinrs don’t use blade guards, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. I totally disagree with your comment that blade guards reduce precision. The SawStop is a high precision instrument. There is no need to see the blade if you properly set the fence and blade. It will cut with precision wether or not you can see the blade. Don’t put too much faith in the blade brake technology. Yes it is a great tool but it’s meant as a last resort. The blade brake is only designed to prevent lacerations of more than 4mm deep because that is the point at which people suffer significant nerve and vascular damage. Finger tip lacerations less than 4mm deep can still result in very significant injuries. Be safe with you tools and keep up the good woodworking.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
We can agree to disagree on that part then. Appreciate you watching and engaging.
@Birdlab
@Birdlab 2 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits 👍
@dmdm9198
@dmdm9198 3 жыл бұрын
Why the 36 why not the 52?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
52 is too big for my shop space
@dmdm9198
@dmdm9198 3 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits if you had the space then you would get the 52? I saw it in person and can’t justify the size. Iam a beginner wood worker, would I regret not getting the 52 and just go with a 36 if Iam just a hobbyist? Also would having the router table on the left or right side of the saw matter when it comes cutting and space for cutting big pieces of wood?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. I’ve never needed to rip something that large. It’s easier to break bigger goods down with just a circular saw. I personally don’t care for the router attachment but it wouldn’t be in the way - you’d just have to remove the router fence each time you were going to that capacity.
@dmdm9198
@dmdm9198 3 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits thanks for responding this helps me out a lot
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re ordering one I would appreciate the support in ordering via the Amazon affiliate links I have in the description. No pressure but it helps support me with Sawstop. Good luck with your purchase - you can’t go wrong with a Sawstop. Cheers
@tonylawrence9157
@tonylawrence9157 7 ай бұрын
Why saw stop? It's for people who feel they cannot keep their hands away from the blade. I have actively used table saws for the last seventy years, and still do, and I have never experinced a single kick back nor got my hands close to be injured. There were neither saw guards nor riving knives for a long, long time. Men, particularly young ones, sustained horrific injuries on the jointer, planer, machines with two blades mounted in square axles. Plaining short timbers was very dangerous. Like the planer the spindle was particulatly dangerous.These were factory size machines. The so called saw stop might lull one into excessive sense of safety.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 7 ай бұрын
Tell me you’re envious without telling me you’re envious.
@scottroy6195
@scottroy6195 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative... But high socks and shorts? Madness.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@coffeelazuly
@coffeelazuly 2 жыл бұрын
Saw stop is the trending machine for the new generations of “woodworkers” who who have never held a hammer before and have no idea what else todo during the pandemic time, but a cutting board and also have the money, brilliant idea, SawStop you creat de fear you got the money, like the current word situation, again see the statistics!! :)
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer. What a crazy world we live in where people pick up new hobbies and want to be safe about it! Leave it to an old and out of touch douchebag to criticize something like that…
@16matthewb16
@16matthewb16 3 жыл бұрын
While this was an interesting video, was it really necessary to add 11 commercial breaks?
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome for the 100% free and informative content
@ehRalph
@ehRalph 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin premium. It’s like sawstop safety for the brain. No commercials.
@bowlchamps37
@bowlchamps37 2 жыл бұрын
Sawstop is too expensive for the poor build compared to superior machines. The safety feature is obsolete if you know how to use table saws. 100% of the accidents are because people a) don´t pay attention and/or b) don´t know how to use a table saw. It´s just that almost everyone knows and thinks he knows how to use one. If you have the same budget, buy a superior sliding table saw and have better quality.
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
“The safety feature is obsolete if you know how to use table saws”. Oof. That level arrogance is tough to comprehend. Accidents happen. I’ll keep my fingers 🤟🏼
@CGphotoOp
@CGphotoOp 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked this up. Still boxed up. Going to create a mobile base for it out of angle iron. Can you tell me what it measures from the left edge of the cabinet to the support legs? Trying to calculate how much steel I need to order from my steel supplier. Thanks!
@workshop_edits
@workshop_edits 2 жыл бұрын
You’re much better off just buying the Industrial mobile base.
@CGphotoOp
@CGphotoOp 2 жыл бұрын
@@workshop_edits nah I’m not willing to pay that price I can make one for under $150 plus I’m tall and want it to sit higher.
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