Why I won't review Kamp Koral

[@thomaspunt2646]

Nickelodeon: Am I really going to defile this grave for money? Of course I am!

[@zzz43344]

Yup. Screw those executive bastards.

[@gcastudio]

I dont remember this refrence, but i kmow its a refrence

[@christopherwallace7903]

Thomas Punt Honesty. I feel like the Krusty Krab is meant to be a metaphor for Nickelodeon, with Spongebob and Squidward representing the cartoons that they air and the people that work on it while Mr. Krabs represents the people behind the network who are pulling the strings. Spongebob represents the people who don’t care that they have no free will and will always follow orders no matter what, while Squidward represents the people who are pissed about their lack of a free will when it comes to creations and only stay with them in order to keep their jobs. Then there’s Mr. Krabs, who is a monster who is in a league of his own. He abuses his employees and takes advantage of them any way he can and manipulated them and their properties giving them no free will of their own and only cares about money and will abuse the people close to them in order to get what they want. You see, Mr. Krabs is a lot like Glen Quagmire and Herbert the Pervert from Family Guy, as in they have a negative trait that defines their whole character. However, they represent how real people are and can be, just exaggerated for comedic purposes. However, unlike those two, who can be seen as “cute” and “funny” in their ways. Mr. Krabs is not like that. He is truly not only the worst character on Spongebob, but one of the worst characters in all of fiction, up there with Brian Griffin and APC Ren Howick. Now I know that in the pre-movie era some people will defend him for things like “Suds,” but even then there are still episodes like “Krabby Land” and “Jellyfish Hunter,” which show him off at his worst like in the Infamous “One Coarse Meal.” Say what you want about Patrick, but he’s like Peter Griffin. He doesn’t seem to know any better and believes he can do whatever the heck he wants with little to no consequences, because there is little to no consequences for anything that he does. Mr. Krabs is a terrible character and an even worse person. I hate Mr. Krabs, but the worst thing about him is that there are real people just like him.

[@alienxotic5028]

@@christopherwallace7903 lol

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

@@gcastudio The soda hat episodes witu the skeletons

[@lazarusthibodeaux]

Steven said he didn’t want there to be ANY spinoffs. They waited for him to die.

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

It was one of his golden rules. If we see Pearl's mother, I can confidently say nich has no soul

[@speedy932key4]

Misfited Misfit without a doubt, it's even more obvious they waited for him to die when you know how shady Nickelodeon is behind the scenes, with things like Dan Schneider and other scandals

[@anar8343]

Damn right! These a$$holes waited for him to die

[@Neku628]

Yeah but this won't stop Nick from releasing it. I hope this spin-off gets panned.

[@Pichufan172]

What if they didn't wait.

[@Charion-50]

Kamp Koral wouldn't be such a bad idea if it was just a _single episode._ Doing a spin off after someone's death is disgraceful and Nickelodeon is god awful for that.

[@night-seeker666]

My brother and I thought it would be okay if they made an episode like Pest of the West.

[@applepi7641]

More of a botching of hillenburg's property, Nickelodeon is making an uninspired spin off of hillenburg's most famous and beloved property, even though hillenburg would love for SpongeBob to end off on a good note, now that hillenburg is deceased in fact means they have full control of the IP, which also means they have the full rights to completely mishandle and misuse the property, Nickelodeon does not need to care about the now deceased creator of said property, SpongeBob belongs to Nickelodeon, and Nickelodeon needs to make money off the expensive and time consuming work of 2D animation.

[@queenofawesome2550]

Especially when Stephen never wanted any spin offs. They waited until he died to do this.

[@lebozojamessimp1610]

Keep on seething!

[@Charion-50]

@@lebozojamessimp1610 if that's the kind of answer you've got then that's lame. if anything really, it didn't have to exist since spongebob was fine on his own. point still stands but I'm less lenient bout it even though it should had been a very long episode or something stephen would be fine with if he was alive.

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

Nickelodeon really thought nobody would find out. Thank goodness Paul Tibbet publicly announced Stephen's wish not to have a spin-off.

[@sominboy2757]

Yet they still employ vincent waller. He was john k's best friend and defended him in his rape allegations

[@revlarmilion9574]

@@zzz43344 The sad truth is that it's aimed at kids too young to care

[@walker1984]

I heard that this is going against Hillenberg's wishes. I'm glad someone said something.

[@nitrosherbert888]

@@sominboy2757 So tell me are these your dumb little Dan Schneider jokes are did you actually believe buzz feed

[@Blueflag04]

Kinda surprised Paul didn't get fired yet

[@seboX_X]

"hey patrick what am i?" "a company that exploited someone's death for money?" "no i'm nickelodeon" "what's the difference?"

[@zzz43344]

Clever

[@seboX_X]

@@Wild_Card69 oh shit i should have known that would happen

[@IdeaBox-dk5vj]

Personally, I would have just changed "Texas" to "Nickelodeon" in this post, as it's just about the same joke before and after the effect.

[@BonziBUDDY]

Am I really going to defile this grave for money? Of course I am!

[@seboX_X]

@@IdeaBox-dk5vj fair point

[@DairyBoyComics]

When they announced a spinoff was in the works, a fan left a comment stating they wanted a Young Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy series. It could act as a parody of popular super hero shows such as the classic Batman animated series, with the twist of Spongebob humor. It would only need to borrow Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy from the original series, and the few of their villains introduced in the show, and could then flesh out a whole new set of characters. I would watch the shit out of that. It's pretty sad that the fans usually know how to make a good show better than the showrunners.

[@ruyekahatori3073]

That would be interesting, since its canon there were other superheroes and they can flesh out the villains more, like expand on what Spongebob did, show them as villains but parody it so they also are human (fish? creature?) as well like going to get groceries or just out doing non-evil things

[@melinamercury129]

But sadly, they discontinued Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy after both voice actors died so this couldn’t be a possibility.

[@Adamkalb1]

@powerstar 2028 Nobody knows why. The fans don't even know how to produce animation! Is that it? Is that the problem? November 16, 2019, 6:37pm

[@Joann_606]

Yeah, I wanna see the real heroes from that one knockoff Justice League episode.

[@somekidnamedoscar8651]

DairyBoyComics that’s a great idea

[@c0mpu73rguy]

I thought the fad of making shows about cartoon characters as kids died decades ago.

[@zzz43344]

Apparently not if THIS is anything to go by. This is just deplorable.

[@train4292]

God dang it, i just noticed that this show is one of those

[@Neku628]

@@zzz43344 Nope, it's ongoing. If you have a property as big as SpongeBob than why not make a spin-off of it?

[@eatatjoe]

TotalDramaRama brought Baby Looney Tunes and by extension, this fad, back from the grave.

[@Grenadreams]

If you notice, cartoon network made total dramarama after its successful run of total drama island

[@Puppetgirl93]

“I don’t care about the children! I just care about their parents money”! -Nickelodeon 2019

[@Fanimati0n]

"Am I really going to defile this grave for money? Of course I am!'' ~Nickelodeon 2019

[@MeganKoumori]

"What have the children ever done for me?!"

[@23mrbee]

Interviewer: "What inspired you to make a Kamp Koral?" Nickelodeon: "Money."

[@piggyman-st8iu]

I didn’t want to break the thread, but WOW is Mr Krabs like Nick..

[@DupontandLowesWarrior]

Nickelodeon will kidnap a thousand Children before letting the network die

[@angelcastaneda529]

Nickelodeon Executives: I love money-ae Fans: I hate all of you.

[@MilesPrower1992]

I like kara-tay

[@MrChaotic4]

Remember when Harold Ramis died? Since the head writer was finally dead, Sony hit the reboot button on Ghostbusters almost immediately after he died!

[@BriceInkling138]

@@MrChaotic4 I remember, and I may not have bothered to see the SJW propaganda piece of shit remake. At least Sony saw all the negative backlash and cancelled further plans for the 2016 Ghostbusters series. The concept of female Ghostbusters may not be this bad, but it's executed so poorly, it hurt.

[@noyes8882]

BlueGuy [rockman138] I mean spider verse was good though

[@BriceInkling138]

@@noyes8882 I liked Spider-verse. :)

[@samuelmelendez7566]

Kamp Koral is a disgrace to Stephen Hillenberg's legacy

[@zzz43344]

Indeed. Nickelodeon has made some shitty decisions in the past, but this...there really is no forgiving them for this.

[@anar8343]

Indeed

[@Neku628]

@@zzz43344 They are likely going to be put this on Nick Jr or something. I can see them targeting a younger demographic so they can rake in that doe.

[@DupontandLowesWarrior]

Angelica and Susie's Pre School Daze is a disgrace to Rugrats and Planet Sheen is a disgrace to Jimmy Neutron

[@HeilRay]

So were the seasons after the 1st movie. It can’t get worse than that.

[@DementedDuskull]

2013: Nickelodeon is terrible! 2017: Cool, it looks like Nickelodeon is getting back on track! 2019: NICKELODEON IS EVEN WORSE!!!

[@ponnie6242]

Demented Duskull yes

[@raceris7309]

@@karenboyman2261 "Thankfully" That's not very nice of you.

[@victoriaalloisio7641]

Karen Boyman you’re glad that someone died!?

[@DementedDuskull]

Well this went south fast.

[@notquitehuman5097]

​@@karenboyman2261 That's some seriously poorly constructed comment.

[@kasinokaiser1319]

Spongebob Prequel ❌ Showing Spongebob's childhood ✔ Showing an entire season full of Spongegar episodes

[@ThatGuyLegend]

Kasino Kaiser kamp coral is going to ruin spongebob because it won't make sense anymore so spongegar would be better

[@ThereelOfficial]

Help yeah

[@richieosborn2639]

Kasino Kaiser we want more Spongegar!

[@greeneyeballs]

Kasino Kaiser I want a spin-off about the hash slinging slasher

[@lavarballscousin9391]

No Larry the lobster is the main character

[@sarasaland4709]

Could you imagine an entire series with a younger and higher-pitched Spongebob voice? I don’t want to, I REALLY don’t.

[@zzz43344]

Same. Nickelodeon must REALLY be desperate if they're willing to stoop THIS low.

[@Neku628]

@@zzz43344 I can see them putting this show on Nick Jr. and it might be a way for them to avoid the controversy since the demographic would be younger.

[@eatatjoe]

NO. Hell, during the blowout when they were thanking Hillenburg, I was cynically thinking, "Yeah, thank you for letting us swim in your cremated ashes!"

[@Neku628]

@@eatatjoe Plus, I heard that there is a petition to cancel Kamp Koral but I don't think it'll go anywhere. Nick does what it wants and my guess, they'll likely air it on Nick Jr. because they want to target a younger demographic who likely doesn't know who Spongebob is and avoid pushback from the older audiences.

[@Neku628]

@Benjamin Gavrin Me?

[@Flamestar320]

"All you care about is money. This town deserves a better class of criminal." -The Joker

[@jellyfishjones4741]

The world definitely needs some Jokers out there.

[@Flamestar320]

@@jellyfishjones4741 Brian Robbins may be a Joker, you never know.

[@funandcooljokes]

Flamestar320 power to the people we live in a society

[@Flamestar320]

@@funandcooljokes Nickelodeon aren't crazy, they're just ahead of the curve.

[@Operation_Bagel]

Gamers rise up

[@Iffondrel]

I used to dream about making a cartoon of my own with my characters that I enjoy, to turn my art into a passion project. Not anymore. Your points here were so accurate they hurt. But now I’m taking my ideas and turning them into a video game instead. It’s easier to manage, they’re my characters, and Nintendo and steam make indie development accessible enough that I can put my product out there. I’m not looking for profit, just creative expression done through my favorite art mediums.

[@Celeste.Marina]

Another suggestion: An illustrated book series or even a comic book series. Video games are a great medium too though, I guess whatever you prefer :)

[@noyes8882]

Iffondrel making a game is unlikely unless you can code make music and animate or know people who can do those things

[@lennysummers6519]

games can be hella expensive though... but if you ever release it I'll be glad to play it

[@nb5437]

Iffondrel good luck!

[@S3r0t0nin]

Same, though I would like to animate my own series one day. Even if I just have to save up enough money from selling games etc so I can make my own animation with my own team on KZbin. I’d rather be ripped apart bit by bit and die a terrible death than to have someone else who’s in charge fucking with my OWN creation.

[@Tylerland264]

This drama and the art theft situations were two of the factors to why my respect for Nickelodeon is gone.

[@dongojangle106]

Art Theft Situations? What happened?

[@Tylerland264]

@@dongojangle106 Nickelodeon stole fanart (a fan-made Spongebob background) for a Spongebob/Lego Show promo.

[@maneoj46]

You still had some? Mine died years ago

[@Tylerland264]

@@maneoj46 Very understandable

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

I only saw nick cartoons because it was quality. But I have always seen them as corporate. i only see corporations, not souls anymore.

[@BugsyFoga]

It's insane how disrespectful this is to Stephen Hillenberg's legacy , Nick really needs to be accounted for that.

[@zzz43344]

Make no mistake, though, I agree completely when you say that this is an utter disgrace to Stephen Hillenberg's name. This is just unforgivable.

[@Neku628]

Nick just wants to make money and this spin-off is just their way of cashing in on the Mickey Mouse of their network, Spongebob.

[@zzz43344]

@@Neku628 Yup

[@Blueflag04]

Nick waited him to be dead

[@גיאורטנשטיין]

Why don't you guys tell court what Nick is doing? then they'll get bankruped and you'll get your revenge.

[@jaxthewolf4572]

Current Spongebob: Acts like a kid Kid Spongebob: Acts like he's high

[@samuraifighterchick1456]

Stephen Hillenburg: *dies due to complications of ALS* Nickelodeon: *its free real estate*

[@God-ch8lq]

can we get an F in chat for stephen hillenburg (don't like this comment, just put an F below)

[@arielruh7773]

F

[@lights4946]

F

[@AzureQuality]

@@God-ch8lq f

[@ahmeda.934]

@@God-ch8lq F

[@BrandonTheFanGuy]

Spongebob would be better as a camp counselor than a kid at the camp The potential is much better that way they can't even do a spinoff right

[@L00D__]

That idea, and if it was good, could be an interesting watch

[@BrandonTheFanGuy]

Hell to make it better: make it a nick jr. show about finding goodness in bad situations Spongebob taking a leadership role He's an optimist, finding happiness in small things is a lesson kids should learn

[@L00D__]

You mean a Nick Jr type show with camp counselor Spongebob, and he helps the kids with showing happiness/positivity?

[@Puppetgirl93]

That is a much better idea than Kamp Koral

[@BrandonTheFanGuy]

@loodfarmer Yes, that's what I mean @bugaloosfan it really is, innit?

[@rjd1922]

Viacom took down the pilot of Breadwinners from KZbin, which was posed BY THE ORIGINAL CREATOR before he even sold it to Nick.

[@mynameismaybeprobablynever5055]

I mean the show is garbage but come on really?

[@DeeJayBanana44]

@@mynameismaybeprobablynever5055 The pilot was intended as garbage, satire of modern cartoons. But Nickelodeon thought it needed to air and they removed the satire element from the pilot and just made garbage.

[@andykishore]

I noticed that too.

[@LooneyCartoonMan]

Well the pilot is owned by someone else, but the show in general is owned by Viacom International.

[@OakTreeIsaac]

@@DeeJayBanana44 Well this is the same network that thinks that kids still do fortnite dances.

[@rhondahoward8025]

Cartoon Network did the same thing with the Powerpuff Girls reboot. They _lied_ and said Craig gave it his blessing when he most certainly did _not._ And he had to publicly say that on Twitter too.

[@cw1424]

Wait really?! If that's true, what made them think he wouldn't speak up?

[@zzz43344]

@rhonda howard This honestly doesn't even surprise me anymore now. These once beloved kids' networks have made it very clear that all they care about now is making a profit, good quality animation be damned...

[@beta511ee4]

So you mean to say he didn't approve of it?

[@galacticmusicalgirl2179]

Skeeter Mania Nope. He wasn’t even involved in the making of it.

[@Medachod]

Samurai Jack and Rugrats remind us good revivals can exist. But you see, kids, there is just one thing to make a good revival. You know, it's not that hard. *_Make sure everyone comes back for it._* When you "revive" something, it means everyone returns. If there's a new showrunner, or barely any of the original people, that's called a "reboot" and you can't argue that. Even the voice actors for The Powerpuff Girls were in shambles, one of them in tears, over being replaced. It was not even a financial reason, they said they would have gladly returned to those roles, if I remember right. I love revivals when everyone, at least who are still alive, returns. It means I'm getting more content from a show I already loved, expecting it to mostly be identical and serve as a true continuation. A reboot makes me think "if you are going to change it this much, make a new show" that is always how I will think. New Teen Titans was the Teens Titans GO we all wanted, I'm sure nobody will disagree with me. That is how you could have done a good spin-off series. But, that's a different topic.

[@sisterjamie5806]

I didn’t even know about Kamp Koral until today...

[@gekkokamenrider]

Me neither

[@isabelmarin]

Me too

[@christopherwallace7903]

Jamesreviews Vailskibum94 taught me about it.

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

I didn't, either.

[@Karmy.]

I heard about the spinoff but didn't actually know what it was going to be Crazy that Nick ripped off a rip off (Camp Lazlo) for this shameful and greedy crap

[@carlbloke8797]

12:10 It really feels like a miracle that Danny Antonnuci, the creator of Ed Edd n Eddy, managed to maintain the rights to his show

[@katzinhatz1]

I think Nickelodeon wanted creative control of ed edd n eddy, but he said no, which was why he went to cartoon network. I was thinking the same thing as you

[@gracekim1998]

Carl Bloke how did he manage that?

[@dunkanbulk14]

@@gracekim1998 he has full creative on Ed Edd n Eddy

[@knightwing5169]

Danny Antonucci has said that Ed Edd n Eddy was what it was because of executive pressure. Without executives telling him what to do, Antonucci spent most of the 1990s making shows like The Brothers Grunt.

[@AugustRenders]

Danny Antonucci owns the Copyright to Ed, Edd n Eddy, even though it was aired on a television network? Where did you get this information?

[@sardonicsardonyx359]

Me: This will be a fun rant! MrEnter: *_Reality is often disappointing…_*

[@Blueflag04]

Often? Completely

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Screw reality, at least I still have cartoo---... o.O .....

[@skirdus367]

Between this and Total Drama Daycare, this is just the 90s' "beloved animated cartoons but with babified characters" trend all over again

[@zzz43344]

Yup, unfortunately...

[@sominboy2757]

Who was the guy who created tdi? I know its from canada but somebody would have had to come up with the concept

[@Neku628]

Didn't Total Drama Island come out in the 2000's?

[@PrincessAshley972]

@@Neku628 Late 2000's, yes. but Total Dramarama is a new series based on the property where the teens are all toddlers in day care

[@TheGoldenDunsparce]

And then a cartoon that started with the characters as babies, Rugrats, has spinoffs of them as teens and adults lol

[@racool911]

Stephen Hillenberg: Don’t make a spin off Nickelodeon: DoN’T maKe A sPIn-oFF

[@ndpluto4197]

ThePoopGalaxy Cool its not on tv thank god

[@Adamkalb1]

Uh...what's the difference in typing exactly the same sentence with uPPerCAsE lETteRS in the middle of the words? September 23, 2020, 10:08pm

[@hexnight]

stephen hillenburg: don't make a spinoff nickelodeon: well, you caused us to be popular, so we won't make a spinoff *after stephen's death* nickelodeon: aw man, we lost the person who created that show about that stupid sponge. *gasp* what did he say about not making a spin-off? fuck it, he's dead and we're greedy as fuck, so let's make a spinoff anyways! MUAH HA HA!

[@JoshuaDude]

@@Adamkalb1It might be a way to show that they’re mocking him.

[@gothicnerd]

i have no respect for nickelodeon, not only did they disrespect a dead mans wishes, but they used a tired spinoff trope that died in the 2000s

[@kieranstark7213]

*cough cough* Planet Sheen

[@Medachod]

@Luke Jameson At least Family Guy was good for a while, until it became widescreen. SpongeBob SquarePants died after the first movie, which was intended to be the ending for it. They were already making them revive it, even though Derek Drymon did not return and Stephen Hillenburg only produced it for one more season, though he did eventually return to produce it again many years later until his death.

[@goofybutserious4807]

In fact I think I'm watching that already, it's called Total Dramarama, we don't need KamP KOrra!

[@angellopes9353]

@@kieranstark7213 I remember when Nick released Planet Sheen. I never watched, but when I saw the trailer and all announcements, I already knew that show would suck.

[@cineseabass5145]

I don’t think it’s gonna do well. Many kids are attracted to spongebob squarepants. It’s gonna be a planet sheen situation where it’s not going to do well.

[@zzz43344]

For sure.

[@lordkaijux5262]

Ugh God that show...

[@DupontandLowesWarrior]

@@lordkaijux5262 Jeffrey Garcia felt like Shit doing Sheen throughout the Second Spin Off Show based on the 2001 Sci Fi Hit

[@firefly6437]

I hope it doesn't do well, I don't want it to be another TTG..

[@Adam-tk9oq]

Don’t you dare disrespect planet sheen, it was great. fite me

[@bethanyoneal5789]

Hillenburg didn’t want a spinoff of Spongebob. Nickelodeon didn’t honor his wishes, they waited until he died to this spinoff. It’s disgusting.

[@BriceInkling138]

They honored him with a marathon (plus "SpongeBob's Big Birthday Blowout" after they aired the episode, which I think it was made before his death in 2018, but produced in 2019 the same year), but now they decided to be selfish and make something so unforgivable of them.

[@RathouseFilmworks]

They wanted him to die.

[@BigSmoke-xh5hi]

@@BriceInkling138 no, the "thank you" they said was m1eaningless. They didnt really care, it was more like a "thank you for all the money, idiot."

[@KiiBon]

And its savage

[@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario]

I heard from someone that hillenburg didn’t know how a spin-off would work

[@SirPreyasThe619]

Stephen Hillenburg didn't deserve to have to creation be abused like this. Rest his soul

[@ChainsawGenie]

Considering the nonsense that *Daria* went through (butchering for rebroadcast on 'The N', a 'Complete Series' box set that removed/replaced a lot of the music samples thanks to RIAA gouging to say nothing of the insulting 'parodies' of the character on series like *Robot Chicken* and *Drawn Together* ), I'm not surprised in the least that foolishness like this occurred. >_

[@thegamingwizard45]

the power of greed is strong in alot of people like nick or even Disney

[@lilsponeg4738]

Ive lost the last little respect I had for Nickelodeon

[@beachballssideaccount]

A network potentially suing someone else for drawing their own characters is bad enough, but copyrighting a VOICE? That's ridiculous.

[@UBvtuber]

I'd imagine the only reason they don't just chain Tom Kenny to a post and force him to work on Spongebob for the rest of his life for free is because it's illegal.

[@joe-lewisjavonnelson1523]

Nickelodeon wasn't the first to do it. Disney did this with Snow White's voice actress, only more strict

[@khristian625]

And the Louis Prima estate suing Disney when King Louie appeared in later works, Disney evading the lawsuit by demonstrating that they hired an impersonator

[@odstarmor557]

If you have the money anything ,and i mean ANYTHING, is fair game for copyright. I think there was a youtuber that got a strike for using a soundbit i could be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.

[@beta511ee4]

Ditto 73 When did they sue that person, and who was that person?

[@brianpare5642]

I love how the whole comment section is spongebob references dissing Nickelodeon because they all fit

[@a-s-greig]

Former SpongeBob fans, as they finish their collective cry: *all that glitters is not gold...*

[@xx_wimpy_thwimp_xx1686]

@@a-s-greig Yep

[@shadztheone]

Tbh, it’s just so disrespectful towards Stephen Hillenburg. This show is going to be shovelware . It’s giving me Rugrats all grown up vibes.

[@Double-R-Nothing]

What exactly is Shovelware?

[@RudyBlackman]

Mr. Snarky the junk food media

[@stevenwall2010]

Mr. Snarky I’ve only heard that term applied to low effort, cheap video games.

[@KadeSutherland]

All grown up, was actually good

[@Channeleven2345789]

It was mediocre, the first season sucked the worst.

[@Dachimotsu]

I hope everyone from the original Spongebob team refuses to work on Kamp Koral. Whether or not they do will show how much respect they had for Hillenburg.

[@Dachimotsu]

@cart name Did the creator of Scooby-Doo ever insist for decades that they didn't want any?

[@Medachod]

@@Dachimotsu Scooby-Doo retained its original style ever since the beginning, though. Even Frank Welker will continue to be the only voice for Fred Jones (also the last veteran left from the original series) until he dies, but only because he enjoys it. Sure, they do make too many of them, but at least the formula is there. Go to the scene, solve the mystery and reveal the perpetrator. They never messed around with it too much or drastically modified it very often. Kamp Koral is breaking SpongeBob SquarePants history. It's entirely different.

[@bagofgroceries]

WarnerMedia is a corporate conglomerate, but they still respect their creators. They aren’t Nickelodeon.

[@razormc954]

@cart name Paul Tibbit said Steve would have hated this... Remember, he worked with Hillenburg closely for years...twitter.com/paultibbitt/status/1136035312113553408?s=19

[@AprilTheSimmer]

@cart name The guy who worked on the show for its entire run and has worked with Hillenburg (I forget his name) has said that Stephen Hillenburg wouldn't want this. Just watch the video that has the title "Nickelodeon Waited for Hillenburg to Die" or something like that. I think that's the video that mentioned that. Like, the guy who's worked on the show for years I mentioned above stated on one of his social media posts that Hillenburg wouldn't have wanted this, and he literally knows Hillenburg after working with him for so many years.

[@expertclown8020]

Hillenburg: Hey, so I made this show about a sea sponge. Nickelodeon: Hippity Hoppity your sponge is now my property.

[@expertclown8020]

@@londonjackson8986 ikr

[@casketbase7750]

Remember the Krabby Land episode where Mr Krabs used Spongebob to hype up his ultimately vacuous “Krabby the Clown” routine before taking the money and running? Kamp Koral is Viacom’s ‘Krabby The Clown.’

[@lordroy88]

“Hello. I like money.” “What inspired you to exploit Hillenburg’s death to do something he said was forbidden to do?” “Money.”

[@galacticmusicalgirl2179]

sdk Yes, the person’s comment is a parody of it.

[@gobalbucs]

sdk; It’s a parody of a quote from the Spongebob Squarepants Movie: Mr. Krabs: Hello! I like money! Reporter: What inspired you to build a second Krusty Krab right next door to the original? Mr. Krabs: Money!

[@Ze_eT]

@@zhg4485 The children? I don't care about the children! I only care about their parents' money! The fact that their feeble minds are placated by another show about a yellow square is no skin off my nose!

[@lordroy88]

Ze_eTPlays nice one

[@randomhuman2602]

@@zhg4485 The original quote goes something like: "Perch Perkins here. Mr.Krabs, what inspired you to build a second Krusty Krab right next to the original?" Mr: Krabs: "Money"

[@ThePhysicsGun]

"You don't add potential, you only sand off potential that was already there." Sums up the whole problem, really.

[@imp8684]

Guess nick wants a piece of the camping pie

[@jaredparks4713]

The circumstances surrounding Making Fiends are just one of many, _many_ reasons why I utterly despise how copyright laws work.

[@jellyfishjones4741]

Especially when big companies can outright ignore those laws to steal work from small artists. It's something that bugs me when copyrighter defenders claim stuff like piracy is stealing from creators. It doesn't. It just steals from the corporations. The creators have usually already been screwed over.

[@mystman1210]

That's not a copyright issue though, it's just a bad practice. Copyright laws are good, and necessary, but when you sign the rights off to someone else, that's when these sorts of problems arise. Don't give the rights away, and you'll maintain the IP and the ability to protect it.

[@goofybutserious4807]

Well, there's a devil named Disney who is trying to destroy the Public Domain, nobody knows why and then there's this.

[@eatatjoe]

The cirumstances surrounding Making Fiends, Chalkzone, and My Life As A Teenage Robot *annoys* me to no end too. Chalkzone got shoved around timeslots (and this was BEFORE Spongebob became the ATM it is, too!) and then the back half of the season showed up on Nicktoons. Making Fiends' website still has some optimism attached to it and an "Oooh, it's on Nicktoons!" message and My Life As A Teenage Robot's only acknowledgement by Nick was on Thursday, where it was its birthday.

[@eatatjoe]

@Stix N' Stones Ancillary rights are an interesting thing that the entertainment industry doesn't like as a whole to be made public and it sucks no one knows about them.

[@ryanrose8011]

I'm a fourteen year old kid who just finished writing a four page paper on how I want to become an animator and work at a studio like Nick or Disney, and make my own show. This video was terrifying. Not even joking. Either I don't get my ideas to the world at all, or I give up my ownership of them. We need some kind of alliance to protect these creative works or something.

[@empeanutson]

Same here. I have ideas for at three cartoon shows, but I don't want to give them up to a studio if this is what happens.

[@dcb99filmz]

Thirded...now I'm not going to bother pitching my ideas to networks and sign away the rights to my and my posse's characters to a network...instead I'll just post on Newgrounds or something like that....I'm 19 and I have a decent art style but I'm unsure if it could look good in motion

[@Beyondthe5thPanel]

Ryan Rose To all of y’all in this comments section, I might have a plan that involves using KZbin and Patreon. All finished projects would be posted in one channel, but will also be linked to all of your channels so that people know to follow your channels as well. I will use Patreon to utilize fanfunding until the channel gets on its feet. If anyone is interested in sending me your project ideas, I’d love to take a look

[@Medachod]

You sound way too smart to be fourteen. You sound smarter than my friend who graduated from college.

[@TimeTellsNoLies90]

The alliance is something that would probably take forever to happen and get a lot of resistance in the industry. You'll probably have to do some more research on what goes on and try to find people that you can trust in there.

[@weeaboo_weirdo]

Animators should create a union, like actors and screenwriters

[@Adamkalb1]

Exactly! We got a Writers' Guild of America strike in 2007-2008. 20 years later, it should be the animators' turn. 2027-2028. It's happening, people! This video will hopefully be the start of it. September 24, 2020, 10:42pm

[@dg4545]

Unfortunately there are no smart human beings that WOULD start a union. Either that they are cowards or pure apathy.

[@cirrus1286]

oh they tried, it failed horribly.

[@weeaboo_weirdo]

@@cirrus1286 that's upsetting :(

[@cirrus1286]

@@weeaboo_weirdo it is and its extremely unfortunate.

[@starvoltnexus3139]

Hillenburg kind of implied he was in his late teens early 20s really is he said that SpongeBob was enough to be living on his own but is not an adult adult

[@starvoltnexus3139]

brandon roberts yeah

[@Miniperi.1032]

I think Spongebob was 16 when he finally got the frycook job, and later he is 18-20 on the show. It’s just speculation, though.

[@andykishore]

SpongeBob has a job for a reason.

[@BobPantsSpongeSquare97]

Well remember that spongebob was born in like 1986 and the shows golden age was between 1999 and 2004 so pretty much all teens and maybe early 20s

[@kloverleavezisdeadlol]

Creepy Closet The 2004 film takes place AFTER the show.

[@misterninetyseven2898]

Nickelodeon: "Hello, I like money!" Fans: "What inspired you to create a SpongeBob spinoff against Stephen Hillenburg's wishes, after he passed away?" Nickelodeon: "Money!"

[@Zinervawyrm]

Heard the Nickelodeon part in Mr. Krabs' voice.

[@fluhmix6786]

Zinervawyrm that was the point....

[@misterninetyseven2898]

Yeah it was literally a word-for-word interpretation of a scene from the Spongebob Movie except for the spinoff line.

[@linkinajar8676]

Don’t know why Spongebob’s the Nickelodeon mascot, when Mr. Krabs would fit perfectly.

[@misterninetyseven2898]

SpongeBob became a meme phenomenon simply because people like it and the fact that so many memes have been made out of it shows how relatable SpongeBob can be to anything or anyone in life. SpongeBob's universe is that versatile. Kamp Koral is not gonna even come close to that.

[@ryanduffy6089]

This could easily be prevented if a few people just refused to do it. If Tom Kenny refused to do this show due to the disrespect of Stephen Hillenburg, I dont think it would get made.

[@prof.pick1es283]

They'd get another va. Younger spongebob wouldnt sound like modeen spongebob is the exuse they'd use.

[@poncut5074]

Besides, Tom Kenny seems like the kinda guy who will do anything he can audition for. He talked about it in an interview, saying that he likes to keep various plates spinning.

[@ExtremeWreck]

Remember when Tom Kenny tried to produce a Plastic Man cartoon? Well if that cartoon failing to make it past a pilot is anything to go by, Tom Kenny doesn't really have much control.

[@kaelisprime9087]

Nick is just spitting on his grave now. The man who brought them one of the best shows of all time, and now Nick is just disrespecting him

[@phineasfacingforward3460]

Do y'all think the writers will be lazy and force a romantic subplot between Spongebob and Sandy that no one asked for?

[@TheGoldenDunsparce]

Sandy shouldn't be in it since he meets her for the first time several eps into the series. If she's there, you'll know they didn't even watch the show they're spinning off...

[@booklover4330]

@@TheGoldenDunsparce Continuity what's that? Nick probably won't care.

[@CartoonFan1994]

Having young Sandy meet young SpongeBob at camp is an embarrassing failure at research that further shits on the man that created an IP that barely keeps Nickelodeon alive.

[@Dashound46]

Didn't they do that in a event episode already? The one where they're stuck under the Krusty Krab?

[@boxtank5288]

@@CartoonFan1994 Especially since he wouldn't even MEET Sandy until her first appearance in Spongebob Squarepants.

[@ZacharyMellinger]

Nickolodeon has Sponge Bob and Cartoon Network has Teen Titans Go. Two shows that keep new ones from being created. I miss the days of Avatar and before, when networks cared about quality content.

[@RathouseFilmworks]

You rather have them make BUBSY?

[@DBZAOTA482]

@@RathouseFilmworks I think he's talking about Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon specifically.

[@Amiri_Francis]

What’s the problem

[@SorowFame]

@@RathouseFilmworks I mean, as long as they’re creating other shows too, sure. In this hypothetical situation it’d probably get canceled to make way for a better show.

[@adriannaranjo4397]

Nickelodeon: "We will honor Hillenburg's memory" Also Nickelodeon:

[@RE-ol5ws]

The show is going to bomb so bad. This is a total disrespect to Hillenburg's legacy. It's like Nickelodeon waited for him to die in order to make this new series.

[@Fanimati0n]

Because they did.

[@wildernessstyle8810]

They killed him

[@yournextdoorneighbor3666]

Red Elastic 98 what about little kids they might like it unfortunately

[@aguynamelex3146]

I don't know if they had this planned for years or they planned this right after his health got worse but just disrespectful

[@andykishore]

They made him have ALS.

[@thealolanprofessor5992]

Animators don’t get as much respect because in the eyes of corporate people, they see cartoons as products and for profit (obviously). Animation, to me, has always been a free form of expression and to abuse and repress the creative minds is disgusting and discouraging to anyone who wants to pursue a career in animation. I want to be an animator, but I do not want to be owned by a company/corporation who want to deface and defecate my animated characters and cartoons. Free lancing is probably the only way I can truly express myself and there are people who do free lance work to earn money and still keep their creative masterpieces. This is why you see many animation videos on KZbin. Although the platform for animators on KZbin has been less than pleasing, it is still a platform for animators to show their stuff and not be bound by the chains of greedy corporates. I respect animators to the highest degree and for the animators who have been treated unfairly, I say they deserve better. Nickelodeon doesn’t care about their staff and neither does CN or Disney. Animation has become a “joke” where its purpose is to make money. Quantity over quality as some may say. It’s a business practice that gets repetitive and toxic quick because for animators who work at one of those studios, they don’t have a choice. Animation deserves better because, as a medium, it has opened doors to the imagination and has went beyond the boundaries of imagination if that makes any sense.

[@carlbloke8797]

The Alolan Professor you hit the nail on the head man

[@TheRaggedyDandyRandy]

We need a revolution, a change in the landscape of entertainment industry oppressing executives. _We need a raid_

[@noahbossier1131]

Ageism is one of the toxic results from this mentality. One of the reasons Hollywood Executives embraced CGI was because they could pay the young talents a lot less whille forcing veterans(even those who work in CGI) to retire at younger ages. This is why you see many older animators and artists having to bag grocerys at wal mart to make endss meet.

[@Launchpad05]

At least Matt Groening created 'The Simpsons' just so he can keep his 'Life In Hell' characters. Though the show has already passed it's expiration date.

[@pillowcasecorner7519]

The Alolan Professor This highly reminds me of the video game industry, as it’s having similar stagnation as the animation industry. With every new game being produced by a corporation on a yearly basis with tons of microtransactions and cut content, with tons of trendchasing and pandering, it really sucks that when something gets popular, it gets corporate and it turns into a shell of its former self. Animation and video games used to have stigmas and other repression, but now that they went mainstream, they got incredibly corporate. I see video games as a free to express medium that’s being abused as well.

[@Silent_Mochi]

Its almost like they were planning this R.I.P Stephen U created my childhood

[@tomerivanir2424]

He created alot of childhoods, and he still do. I was really sad when he died and now knowing they are going to do a spinoff is really annoying and it makes me really angry

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

And what happened to Kyoto Animation, was a major BLOW to this industry. As you know, that animation studio treated it's staff like people, not tools like Viacom. That sends off a message that I have been saying again and again: "BIG BUSINESS, WE ONLY WANT BIG BUSINESS! There's no room for the little guys!"

[@gabbycotto4024]

I would not be surprised if the psycho arsonist was actually paid off by a slavedriving rival studio(s) to take down KyoAni for making their conditions look that much worse in comparison.

[@nekonomicon2983]

@@gabbycotto4024 that's a theory I hope isn't true

[@beta511ee4]

GaiaX5 I’m a bit shocked that more people in this comments section aren’t bringing up how tactful KyoAni is (was?) to its creators, almost as if they’re the Pixar of anime.

[@indisible]

I kept scrolling through the comments just so I could find someone who was thinking about Kyoto too. I really hope that more humane studios like Kyoani are able to take rise, though I know it takes a lot more than just hope to make that stuff happen

[@Medachod]

I was mortified about this because my friend told me very casually one day about it and the phrasing did not make it seem like it was real. I just could not believe it. It almost makes you want to stop being alive, knowing life itself doesn't feel like it's generally respected anymore.

[@cyan3157]

I guess Mr. Krabs was based off of Nickelodeon

[@animmons]

Oof get roasted nick

[@zzz43344]

Yup...

[@frankielovejoy9928]

I've never heard of this, so I was confused getting that notification

[@zooemperor3954]

Japan actually seems to be the only place that actually respects animation, and one of their best studios was/is Kyoto Animation, which unfortunately had one of its studios burned down in an arson attack

[@scrubstatus123]

Xanderp, Love the name. Also that's sad

[@bolbyballinger]

They might respect the workers more, but the lack of regulation leads to LONG hours. The guys who did sausage party have nothing on the Japanese, which is a very sad statement.

[@andykishore]

I heard about that.

[@chaddwickfincher5835]

To be fair japan isn't much better considering the work environment keep screwing animators/artists into Oblivion.

[@johnwalker5614]

There's a problem regarding work hours in general in Japan. Look up karoshi just as an example of what I'm talking about. Probably due to cultural reasons but it's still a problem nonetheless. Allegedly wage slavery is also an issue in the animation industry there specifically but it's typically related to the point above.

[@Bane_questionmark]

I feel like the whole "they own a voice that Tom Kenny does" thing wouldn't actually hold up in court. Someone correct me if something similar has been upheld in a higher US court but that honestly sounds like horeshit. I totally believe he signed some contract at some point that *says* they own a voice he did, but contracts aren't magic papers that override federal or state law. Maybe the could argue a trademark. Maybe. Obviously they have trademark and copyright on the character of Spongebob and have copyright on specific performances of the voice Kenny was paid by them to perform, but I seriously doubt any judge would agree that they can compel Tom Kenny to not speak in a certain voice.

[@davidhong1934]

If someone ever decides to open up the Fortnite dance lawsuit, we'll have an answer.

[@keldawott]

You can look up KZbin videos of people getting Tom Kenny to do the voice at conventions so I don't really think it holds up lmao.

[@AugustRenders]

My research says that you cannot Copyright a character's voice, or even your own voice for that matter.

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

I don't think that's what Enter was implying. I hear SpongeBob's voice each time I listen to the Mayor from Power Puff Girls and the Professor from Spyro and Spyro himself from Ripto's rage. He's talking about Tom Kenny not being able to do the character impressions of SpongeBob outside of Nick especially something for profit not necessarily the voice itself.

[@davidgeorge1943]

Normally I would agree that there's no way such a claim could hold up in court, but this is Viacom we're talking about.

[@WilsTube]

Nickelodeon has turned into a real life Mr. Krabs. Nick: “I like money!”

[@davidhong1934]

Nickelodeon, what inspired you to make a second SpongeBob series, right next to the original?

[@nicoleisinthahouse5033]

David Hong Money

[@brifox]

"The children? I don't care about the children! I only care about their parents' money! The fact that their feeble minds are placated by another show about a yellow square is no skin off my nose!"

[@WilsTube]

I miss when Nickelodeon had more cartoons than just SpongeBob, and back when they didn’t make millions of the same sitcoms!

[@animegx45]

Gotta say, it must've been a miracle that Genndy T. was able to make that last season of Samurai Jack now that I've got this video on my mind.

[@SitaraAleu]

There’s always a bright light at the end of the tunnel, Mr. Enter. But if the tunnel is long enough and dark enough, it can take a while before we’re able to see it. Don’t give up hope that it’s there

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

Unfortunately, all we can do is just do our best to forget that it exists. We all know that Nickelodeon isn't going to stop production no matter what words we throw at it. Just knowing that companies are perfectly willing to throw out all the rules you laid down for your creation just to keep milking it the minute you're gone, it's just another reason that I don't think I'll actually make a cartoon of my own.

[@gracekim1998]

Graphite Tail Grace this is honestly really sad that potential cartoon creators are now being put off by things like this

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

@@Al-AmeenAdewunmi That's a bit different, though. The issue with the Sonic movie was that it was just a terrible design for the character. Kamp Koral is a complete denial of what Stephen wanted, made without his permission. Whoever currently owns Sonic (the specific person) most likely gave permission to have the movie made.

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

@@gracekim1998 Though it's actually one of the smaller reasons. The largest reason is that I can't draw shit.

[@mellowmallow4855]

@@gracekim1998 There's patreon and youtu--er, Twitch? We just have to gind a way to support budding animators. Because the companies really don't give a crap about them.

[@zzz43344]

@@mellowmallow4855 True

[@austinmorrison6953]

How can Nick not hear Hillenburg rolling in his grave? How can they possibly think this is respectful of his work?

[@BlueGuy98]

That’s the thing; Nick doesn’t care about respecting Hillenburg’s wishes. They only care about money

[@austinmorrison6953]

Andrew Kuder ugh....i knew Mr Krabs was in charge of Nick...

[@unpopularopinions7407]

You’re giving them too much credit. They know what they’re doing. They just don’t care.

[@TheSolarWolf]

Profit making don't care about your feelings. It's amoral.

[@zzz43344]

@@BlueGuy98 Indeed.

[@lebigpeanutguy9996]

I'm still sad about Making Fiends still being owned by Nick so the creator can't even use those characters and that show won't even be able to continue. So much potential...

[@mechabase1325]

The worst part is IT LASTED 6 EPISODES WTF

[@gabebarnes6814]

What's sad is the show is so charmingly odd yet simple is that these days the creator could probably animate it on her own through Adobe Flash and put it on KZbin if Nickelodeon just gave back the rights to her. If I ever make a cartoon, I'll just do that. I don't care whether or not it makes any money. At least I could do what I want with it.

[@alijahaskew4644]

Even worse, years later Nick had the audacity to put a portrait of Amy in their creator wall.

[@Nikku4211]

So much nostalgia...

[@xx_wimpy_thwimp_xx1686]

@@mechabase1325 that sure ain't fair

[@chasethehuman8465]

The quality video game "bendy and the ink machine" is entirely based on the misery of animators behind such happy cartoon products. The whole game is so symbolic you have to look at a KZbin video to understand it all.

[@prof.pick1es283]

This reminds me of the "you have to have a high IQ to enjoy rick and morty" copy pasta. No offense doesnt sound as smug

[@davidhong1934]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily fromNarodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

[@antipsychotic451]

>quality >bendy and the ink machine heh

[@keldawott]

@@davidhong1934 dude even the creator of the show disagrees with this high IQ bs

[@mgeiger2341]

@@keldawott He obviously hasn't analyzed it through the lens of reader response theory.

[@NoomEnihsDrop]

At best it’ll be camp lazlo with spongebob characters at worst it’ll be the biggest and stupidest cash-in Nickelodeon’s done in years

[@killerratchet1973]

Wasn't camp lazlo like spongebob or a show like Nickelodeon anyway on cartoon network?

[@NoomEnihsDrop]

Killer Ratchet yeah it was made by the same guy who made rocko’s modern life Also yeah that means this is probably gonna be a sucky cash-in unless they have good writers and producers on the show

[@zzz43344]

@Son Kibiro My money's on the latter.

[@NoomEnihsDrop]

M S yeah which makes it even worse if they wanna disrespect his wishes they should at least make the spin-off as good as possible

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Camp Lazlo used a bunch of jingles from Spongebob. Even as a kid I figured that out.

[@dylanlewis3038]

The only Spongebob “spin off” I would watch would be “Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy”. To bad their original voice actors are dead and it would be weird hearing anyone else do their voices (except when Adam West and Burt Ward in the time travel episode). RIP Stephen Hillenberg, Ernest Borgnine and Tim Conway.

[@japanrocksgousa]

And adam west.

[@Puppetgirl93]

Adam West passed away as well! But I agree with you that a Mermaid and Barnacle Boy spin off would be a much better alternative

[@firstwatchzgameplay2725]

Dylan Lewis I know it would still screw up Stephen’s legacy but I think a cartoon about the original “Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy” would honestly be okay at least if they keep the old style like in that Sponegbob episode when they watched one episode from Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy. One cartoon I actually want to see is a fish that comes to the future of Bikini Bottom.

[@maxleon61702]

If it's all possible, then I can imagine Wally Wingert and Kirk Thornton as these two, sort of.

[@jajr4838]

What you REALLY need to review is Killer Bean Forever

[@gekkokamenrider]

YES

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

Killer Normeme forever. Probably will get a shoutout from the next admirable animation of the web

[@christopherwallace7903]

Ja J R Saberspark. But yes. I would also like Animat to review that.

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

He doesn't normally touch non network shows but I hope he makes an exception!

[@router9717]

*YESSSS*

[@Eltrio2]

Kamp Koral is basically 3d baby looney tunes made while the original creators corpses were still warm.

[@Mudfire15]

I actually enjoyed Baby Looney Tunes. I also liked A Pup Named Scooby Doo. However, nowadays, de-aging characters is possibly one of the laziest things a creator can do for a spinoff. Completely ignoring Hillenburg's wish against spinoffs for Spongebob is even worse. A dirty move like this will forever taint any and all potential this show could have.

[@carlbloke8797]

It definitely boils my blood what Nick is doing to Stephen’s passion and I hope justice is done for him, Spongebob and all his loved ones

[@bigblue344]

"Not everything in 2D will look good in 3D" Tell that to the rule 34 artists.

[@alienxotic5028]

.

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Porn artists are on another level, its not a fair comparison

[@jasonscarborough94]

rule 34 artists typically don't have deadlines, plus they have more passion for their work

[@Projectarchan]

@@jasonscarborough94 Yeah, putting the pornographic nature of said art aside, I've seen some damn good drawings of lewd stuff, regardless of the involved fetishes.

[@jrt2792]

@@jasonscarborough94 "PASSION"

[@ULTIMATZEKROM]

"This is a show that I am not going to support. In any way whatsoever." 100% agree with you there, man.

[@kevinalvarado1000]

This is a really sad video. It took me to a dark place I wasn't planning to go. I just can't bring myself to believe those bastards are doing this to Hillenburg.

[@MizantropMan]

I think 2D animation can be used to potray different styles very well, check out projects like "Dante's Inferno: Animated Epic" or "Dead Space: Aftermath", where each circle of hell/character's perspective is animated in styles so different, you could think it's two separate shows. I agree that "Wreck it Ralph" benefits from it's style of animation, but in my opinion, rather than because 3D can potray different styles better, it is related more to the fact that video games are associated with detailed 3D these days.

[@user-nr6gy5lh6b]

This is why now more than ever, we need newgrounds.

[@goldenlightning8842]

AMEN

[@S3r0t0nin]

Amen x2

[@InsaneGold]

@Danger Wort There are ways to support your favorite animators even when they're primarily on Newgrounds.

[@No_Sleepee]

AMEN x3

[@dahazelgen]

AMEN x4

[@nerdwriterfighter212]

I LOVED Making Fiends so much. It was such a good show. It makes me mad that Nickelodeon screwed the creator over

[@ninjasonic16]

Why does Kamp Koral have to exist.

[@fredricknoe3114]

Money

[@juan1213]

So that they continue to market spongebob

[@ShalemAhava]

NinjaSonic16 Because the staff of Nickelodeon is full of money hungry executives who refuse a popular beloved cartoon end! Spongebob has been nickelodeon's cash cow for officially 20 years now, if they let it go, the. they know their ratings to go down (for the whole network, because it's been their icon for LITERALLY 2 decades). Fox is doing the same thing with the Simpsons and Family guy....

[@gracekim1998]

NinjaSonic16 I don’t know

[@gracekim1998]

Rae Marie oh god😰 it’s not gonna to end is it?

[@DrShaym]

13:12, it's pronounced "ehh-pit-toe-mee".

[@identitywithheld2123]

Sorry but he doesn't seem like the type to listen

[@python1972]

@@identitywithheld2123 What the hell are you talking about?

[@smite6918]

Dr Shaym for real that tripped me the fuck out 😂

[@korrianimationbodyguard4683]

"This is a sixteen year old's life." Fun fact: According to his driver's license (during the brief period he had one), SpongeBob's year of birth was 1986, meaning that when the show premiered in 1999, he was thirteen years old.

[@ThomasJefferson-xc8wg]

Nickelodeon has stole somebody's artwork AND also gone against a person's wishes AFTER THEY DIED.

[@PewPewBeets]

Making Fiends. That's a name I haven't heard in a very very long time. Also, screw Viacom. They deserve every bit of criticism they get.

[@zzz43344]

Agreed.

[@tempolynnrealofficial]

Nickelodeon? Horrible people. My dreams of being an animator and working for Disney, CN, Nick, etc? Shattered. The animation community? Twisted and horrible. Hotel? Trivago.

[@1Up2081]

Same. I am now contemplating suicide.

[@ratedr7845]

@@1Up2081 bro, don't

[@S3r0t0nin]

Maybe you can be a free lance animator like I’m thinking about becoming

[@mobi4482]

Or make your own independent studio

[@daneiltherat2327]

Nice joke at the end

[@ccateni28]

If Nick goes bankrupt... The one thing we will be happy about... Is that the rights will hopefully be brought back to the creators... Oh and more making fiends. I love that show.

[@JMiles-wl1nq]

I doubt it. They'll probably start selling everything they own to various other companies. Assuming they even do go bankrupt. Once those rights are gone you'll never get em back. Unless a miracle happens.

[@Shins_Jim]

The House of Mouse will probably sweep in and vacuum up what it can.

[@goofybutserious4807]

I hope Disney goes Bankrupt one day as well! So I hope that my book work makes it to the public domain one day so people can make works out of it inspired by mine! Ahhhh a man could only dream

[@davidhong1934]

@@goofybutserious4807 As of July 28th, 2019, Disney now owns your dreams. Please refrain from using the trademarked Disney properties in an unauthorized manner. Have a nice day!

[@bagofgroceries]

David Adventure234 Disney will own us all.

[@daphne2blake]

Mr:Enter: "The animation industry is the worse creative industry to work in... -" Me: "Oh yeah? What about the ga...-" MrEnter: "E V E N W O R S E T H A N G A M I N G I N D U S T R Y !" Me: 0_0"

[@TheTrueSpottedStripe]

I very much disagree on the games situation. So many people focus on the greedy game devs they never truly look at everything else being made at the same time. I've always been more of a gamer then a viewer anyway. Some of mans greatest stories and achievements came from video games.

[@ChainsawGenie]

Animation, video games, comics/manga, film, literature...greed and corruption have plagued these media (among other) industries for **decades** now. To say that a revolution is long overdue is an understatement. (And, yet, which wily 'Quixote' will lead the charge?)

[@גיאורטנשטיין]

@@ChainsawGenie You think maybe fans should do what Joey Drew tried to do in batim? By that I mean bring toons to life and tell them to bring justice

[@ChainsawGenie]

It **would** make for an interesting (spiritual) sequel to *Who Framed Roger Rabbit?* ^_^ I mean, when Michael Eisner was running the Disney studio, I posted a fanfic idea to Usenet where, among other things, their toons would escape and hide out at the (long abandoned) Broken Arms hotel. A few of them would even steal Eisner's car... ---- Michael Eisner: No!! Not my woobie! **sucks thumb** *GET THEM!!* [Three characters from 'Lilo and Stitch' almost get run over] Nani (to the driver, angrily): Watch it, you stupidhead!! Cobra Bubbles (to Nani): Nani...about your job... [Nani is handed a pink slip...and collapses to the sidewalk in tears] Lilo: Nani? [Stitch growls at the studio's gate] ---- Seeing no shortage of animated characters rebel against their corporate 'masters' and incite a (cartoon) worldwide revolution could provide a far more entertaining alternative to the countless (live-action) remakes being pandered, at the moment. 9_9 After all the baloney that has been piled on Life's (current) sandwich, a squirt of 'Mustard' (in the eyes of so many fools) would be more than welcome. ^_^ Here's hoping...

[@daphne2blake]

ChainsawGenie I swear I think Looney Toons did something like this before. It’s been decades since I’ve seen it, and the skit itself is even older, but it’s one where Porky Pig is in the real world and quits his job working in the animation industry. I can’t remember much more than that though...

[@Medachod]

I actually completely forgot this channel existed until today. I used to watch this guy so much. I'm blown away that he is no longer at ten thousand subscribers. Never thought he would get this far. Great job, MrEnter. Keep up the good work.

[@lssproductions3180]

Why do I feel some of the points here could describe the Disney live action remakes?

[@TheTrueSpottedStripe]

I honestly have no problem with the remakes. Their fun. It's not like the originals were very...original in the first place.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Take something once filled with passion and effort, make a complete corporate and lifeless inferior version to make some quick money? Yep, that's Disney all right.

[@MarkCabaniss]

Lieutenant Octoling Especially the _Lion King_ remake. Just watch MisAnthro Pony’s review of it.

[@jellyfishjones4741]

@@TheTrueSpottedStripe So basically you need to change your name to Plagueis the Fool Guy

[@ChainsawGenie]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 When a 2-3 hour 'epic saga' can be told in 60 seconds or less by a talented vector/cel/stop-motion/3D animator, you **know** you're in trouble. Bite-sized blockbusters could be 'teh n3xt Bi6 Thin9' (if they aren't already). *What's Opera, Doc?* was just the start, folks. ^_^

[@DaCaptainDerpy]

I respect your choice not to review it. By the way, I ordered a copy of your book off of Amazon for my birthday tomorrow and I look forward to reading it!

[@SammyOmane]

Lord Derpy Happy birthday man!🥳

[@rickmarr4478]

Happy Birthday!

[@classy_hawk9558]

Happy Birthday!

[@JMiles-wl1nq]

Happy Birthday 🎂

[@francescomanzo3939]

Happy Birthday!! :) :D

[@nathanielschwartz425]

9:46 This sounds almost EXACTLY like what happened to the Godzilla series in the mid 60s. At the time Toho had almost full control of the filmmakers who worked for them, so when Toho wanted to make Godzilla more kid friendly, director Ishiro Honda had no choice but to do what the studio wanted and had to witness his symbol of nuclear weapons and warfare turn into a goofy humanoid mascot for kids to cheer for. Now to be clear, Honda didn’t mind having Godzilla be the hero, but he thought that it was a stupid idea to make the monsters act more like humans, doing things like dancing around and having a group therapy session. But of course he had to make a living.

[@ratchetmechani2002]

I didn't know that. I've never been too interested in the Showa era beyond the original Gojira for that reason. Heisei, Millennium and Monsterverse are my favorite eras.

[@exe_]

I believe the light at the end of the tunnel is Hazbin Hotel. A Kickstarter cartoon with a premise and artstyle that no TV channel would pick.

[@zzz43344]

@SoulReaper 85 Yup

[@JMiles-wl1nq]

Only indie cartoon that has my attention is Ollie and Scoops. And maybe Bluhilda.

[@exe_]

@@JMiles-wl1nq I thought bluhilda exudes energy on each frame, but it's not the kind of cartoon I like to watch right now.

[@exe_]

@@JMiles-wl1nq one failed concept was Becky Prim, an animatic that I followed for several years until I realized the creator moved on. I freaking loved that video.

[@toonaurz2620]

8:47 Disney refusing to let Craig McCracken make his 3rd season of "Wander Over Yonder" to give the series it's conclusion still pisses me off to this day.

[@nickytembo4112]

Agreed and I'm glad that I am not the only one who thinks that Disney is a bunch of greedy buttholes and Imagine if Craig McCracken dies and Disney turns Wander Over Yonder into a crappy reboot that no one asked for. No wonder why Video Games are considered better than TV Shows (and Movies) and My god its so disrespectful

[@legacyofboom56]

Camp Camp and Summer Camp Island we already have 2 summer camp shows that are airing rn we dont need another

[@Adamkalb1]

Phineas and Ferb is set in the summer, but even Phineas and Ferb rarely takes place at an actual summer camp! November 30, 2019, 11:49pm

[@Enter_the_Toshiverse_1996]

We also had Camp Lazlo, it served its purpose and then ended its run a long time ago. Do we really need yet another show about kids at a summer camp?

[@kylegarrison6216]

I'm wondering how this compares to how Netflix treats animation because from what I hear, they pretty much treat their workers fairly and allows for more creative freedom, among other reasons, and seeing as how a lot of well known creators within the animation industry are going straight to Netflix, it shows that they care more than everyone else

[@BlackCover95]

Enjoy while it lasts. I bet twenty years, tops.

[@skelemama]

I don’t blame you. This spin off is very disrespectful to the wishes of Hillenburg not wanting one. And if you think about it, THEY WAITED FOR HIM TO DIE IN ORDER TO DO THIS. The executives of Nickelodeon sicken me.

[@Enter_the_Toshiverse_1996]

If the animation industry is as bad as Mr. Enter says it is here, then Viviziepop should keep “ Hazbin Hotel” and “Helluva Boss” here on KZbin because if she presented the idea of both shows to any network that makes adult cartoons, they’ll change things haphazardly and then they’ll kick Viviziepop off of them the second she complains about it. And I liked both of those videos and think they’d make awesome shows but I definitely don’t want Viviziepop to have her shows tainted and taken away from her by some greedy television companies who only care about money and nothing else

[@bitwolfy]

What a time capsule of a comment

[@PolarExpression1225]

Well, the show's on Amazon Prime now, so...

[@NatashaArts]

Heres my own added thoughts: 1. clearly it's disrespecting Hillenburg's desires and it's sick that Nick decided to wait until he died to do this. 2. spongebob as a show where he isnt well defined in age meaning he can do much of anything, as the show has shown isnt gonna work being narrowed down to the same old tired cliche of summercamp. (Disney, Cartoon Network, Nick, etc have all milked any creative ideas out of it in my opinion but thats another whole thing). It's gonna just be another uncreative and lame summercamp show that is gonna try milking off the spongebob juggernaut. (meaning it's just yet Another Summercamp Show just with spongebob smacked over it). A show with a character formerly such as spongebob with it's range will not be able to hold in a such narrowed premise. But if we know enough from TTG, we know Nick will try to milk every ounce out of these spinoffs, even if EVERYONE seems to hate em, they'll likely try to flood the channel with it. (considering their animation side is kiiinda lacking lately since they keep axing everything) this has been my think piece, i would and could ramble on for ages longer but nah

[@rainbowstreak9615]

Kamp Koral portrayed by SpongeBob: "Am I really going to defile this grave for money? Of course I am!"

[@valenzuelasstudios1838]

RainbowStreak, don't forget Nick:Hello, I like money Reporter: what inspired you to make a spin-off when Hillenburg asked you not to, and after his death? Nick:MONEY.

[@SetsunaTheGreat00]

Damn even the spin off is being made fun of by the main show 😂

[@valenzuelasstudios1838]

@@SetsunaTheGreat00 Have you watched ________ portrayed by spongebob? And I'm making fun of Sonic X with my reboot, Sonic Re-imagined so It's easy to make fun of anything if you're a nostalgia critic fan.

[@SetsunaTheGreat00]

@@valenzuelasstudios1838 those videos are just too funny 😂😂

[@valenzuelasstudios1838]

@@SetsunaTheGreat00 Then you'll love my show's humor til the day you die.

[@darkamulet5768]

And we can already see this happen. Do you know/remember Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs? Tell me if this sounds familiar: After the success of their second movie, the creators decided to make an animated TV show prequel to the series in a whole new style and keeping the two main characters still around, but not their voice actors, and making them school students and to justify them not knowing each other in the first movie, they had a memory eraser be the answer. It lasted 2 seasons with incredibly negative reviews, with people pointing out it conflicts with the movie's lore badly nor does it try anything original.

[@nickytembo4112]

but at least Phil Lord and Chris Miller are alive to defend and distance themselves from that spin off right?

[@antmancometh]

Damn, man. Animation is truly my passion, too. This doesn’t deter me from working for my dream of developing my artistic style and animating for fun, but it’s a harsh reality check. I think you explored the corruption quite well here, though. Hillenburg, Hirsch, Greenblatt, McCracken, etc. all deserve their characters and their right to do what they please with them. It’s just...I’m not sure what to do now

[@queenfrostine97]

“It would just be Hey Arnold underwater” damn that’s tea

[@Nakia11798]

Anyone who loves Spongebob should boycott Camp Coral by not watching it ever.

[@PoisonedPizza]

OOOOOOOR they could pirate it, watch it, and criticize it without ever paying Viacom a penny.

[@doom5895]

@@PoisonedPizza exactly. we should pirate everything anyway. the entertainment industry is fucked now.

[@RyansFine]

Good on you taking the difficult highroad Mr. Enter by not subjugating your ideas to corrupt people. Shame though, maybe one day you'll be able to fund your animation yourself -- I'd hate to see corporate greed waste your unique ideas.