why I WONT buy the 2025 Yamaha Tenere 700... but maybe you should

[@jaide1312]

In my opinion the only reason to have ride by wire is for cruise control or an up and down quickshifter, or ideally both. Power modes are a gimmick that only really make sense on bikes with well over 100hp.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@@jaide1312 I'm without. But my mt007 in the rainwoouod have done well with tc

[@BernardVisagie]

The main reason for ride by wire is safety systems and regulations in the EU requiring traction control (which needs ride by wire) on all new vehicles.

[@toddmiller7167]

Spot on - and yet in the press release they talk about "not adding technology for technology's sake". Multiple dash themes? Smartphone connectivity? Throttle maps?

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@toddmiller7167 i beleave euro5+ now requires tc and rider modes Just like 5 needed LED's And 4 needed abs

[@KirkAnderson-l3i]

Let’s state to obvious, the T7 is NOT A ROAD TOURER. The T7 is primarily off road of design, remote distances on dirt, desert type of bike. Want a dedicated Black top bike buy a Road Bike / tourer. Want cruise control and rider modes buy a road bike. The T7 should be kept simple, quality adjustable suspension,removable rear sub frame would have been nice. Some reduction in weight even better. If Auto gear box required, buy a bloody car.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@KirkAnderson-l3i so... I have space for 1 bike and no car. Are you suggesting I should be on a road bike and not welcome in the dirt? Or suffer the 3hr to the dirt and 3 more hr home so I'm exhosted and make mistakes? Multi day trips of twisty pavement and dirt are off limits? Why are we even looking at this top heavy over powered dirt bike? Should be on a 300l right? P.s. cars don't lean very well.

[@podunkman2709]

Well, I do not agree with that. Just change the tires for more road oriented and u will be surprised how good ROAD bike it is. I tried Explore and I LOVED it.

[@somedude1590]

I'm buying the new tenere 700 as soon as it hits the showroom floor , like that day

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

Great, like I said in the video, for some people this will be the perfect bike. Definitely the best looking mid sized adv bike 😁

[@somedude1590]

@@DragoniteMotoJP The Tenere will be my first new bike since 2016 when I got my 02 Fz1 . Still have the FZ , great bike too !

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@somedude1590 loved the fz01 when I worked at yamaha. A simple comfortable bike has is both easy to ride but fully ready to chase super sports

[@somedude1590]

@DragoniteMotoJP yea , not the fastest thing on 2 wheel but definitely fun . I threw a corbin gunfighter seat on her and you can do a few hundred miles with ease.. cheers man.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

I have read that the Ride by Wire may have been added to help the CP2 meet Euro 5 Plus standards. I would prefer a manual throttle control I suppose.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

A few comments have said that

[@eatcommies1375]

I had to flash my ecu on my super tenere to get rid of restrictions

[@enriquejaimes3368]

Tubless tires, High exhaust and better suspension… that is all it needed… we got none of it :(

[@verbalwidget0919]

Damn straight!

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

They did do the suspension. Exhaust wouldn't be cheap but after market has that. I have a diy tubeless video for my transalp that's been trouble free. Cost 40$ u.s.d.

[@podunkman2709]

At the end of 2024 I decided to ride Tenere Explore. Just to find out that this motorcycle is not for me. And it turned out that... it was the discovery of the year. The engine on this bike is wonderful! I don't know if any manufacturer has a better one. Contrary to appearances, Tenere is largely a road motorcycle.

[@lucypearson3057]

It's funny with the Tenere. It's the most reliable, best looking adventure bike by a country mile. So people start looking for little things to criticize. But I guess that just goes to show what a great bike it is. That new Tenere Rally is what an adventure bike should look like and I thought bmw and ktm might have had some change in direction with there style but omg they just get uglier every year. 😢

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@@lucypearson3057 first place wears the biggest target

[@jetmuchacho]

I bought a T7 in '21. I personally was never really into it and I'm a 95% off-road guy. The best thing about the bike was the looks, but for me it's too much of a wannabe dirt bike. If I'm gonna step off an enduro bike and ride around all day on something street legal, I don't want it to be like an enduro bike lol. I think people get a little lost in that. They think they want these big heavy bikes to be sharp and agile off-road like a motocross bike. But that big heavy machine is so flighty and busy off-road it's exhausting to ride all day in the dirt, and torture on the highway with it's little dakar suit on. When I did my first multi-week trip on my africa twin years ago, I remember how boring and uncomfortable it was to sit on the road for hours. When I took my first trip on my T7, I would have killed to be back on that africa twin lol. I'll take the bigger bike every day of the week, even off road.

[@jchapman1351]

No tubeless and no cc. Huge miss.

[@dothetontim]

Serious off road bikes have tubes. Check the 2025 Tuareg 660 Rally Edition.

[@Picklerides]

I have actually seen a Ride by Wire let go a couple weeks ago. Me and my friend went on a ride which was our last ride of the season since it's gotten cold here in Canada lol. When we got to the gaz station, there was a guy with a Harley (one of those big baggers) with ride by wire and he had no throttle. He was stuck. Had to get it towed back home. He said that it happens in those harleys cause the connectors are not sealed (or sealed properly? Not sure lol) and they get corroded which creates a no throttle issue. I also heard that Yamaha had an issue with the Ride by Wire on the Tracer 900 so I hope they don't have the same issues with the T7. Makes me skeptical on the ride by wire side. I will probly still buy one since i'm more of an off road guy but I am almost tempted to wait a year to see if there is issues with the RBW system. I will keep riding my little CRF300L until then! Was hoping to upsize next year but will see. I think Kawa teased a new KLE so I also want to see what that will look like and see my options lol!

[@pascalm1163]

Yamaha Ride by Wire actually has a bad reputation (check the Tracer 9 GT forums.) Personally, I'll stay with my 2021 ;)

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

I was a Yamaha mechanic for a while in tokyo, I never saw an issue. But others might. Don't trade a bike you're happy with😁

Simple is the best.... Most of the electronic assisted motorcycles are having lots of issues in their electronic units. Companies are also forced to make more electronic makeovers to sell more motorcycles.

[@worstteammate4377]

Blame Europe for that. DRZ400E is still road legal in Australia

[@mikeskidmore6754]

Cruise Control is only available auto shift option MT-07

[@larry710]

Just bought a 2024 tenere,waited until I heard the announcement of the 2025's and literally 2 hours later I was at the dealer securing my 2024. Gimmicks!! Why so many gimmicks on motorcycles. I've rode a few modern/tech fill bikes, so I have experienced. The Y-connect on this 2024 is redundant and unnecessary. At 46 years old this 2024 will be the last new motorcycle I will buy. I'll be doing what Itchy Boots has just done, refurbish an older bike.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

For some people that will be true. I've heard abs is a gimmick but it's saved my life. I hear people say tc didn't help. But I've had to commute in major rain and tc would have made of much better on my mt07. But I do understand getting the last cable throttle t7 Ride safe

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@DragoniteMotoJP I have been surprised by the traction of modern tires like My Michelin Pilot V tires.. My FZ-07 will still pull a wheelie in a hard rain on pavement. I have skidded the rear wheel at 10 mph on a just below freezing evening with frost on the pavement too. I got caught in freezing rain in my 4 wheel drive pickup and could not stop for a red light on a steep hill with ABS either. An FZ-07 ABS was an option I saved $400.00 and got with no ABS.. Now they sell the MT-07 USA and it always has ABS..

[@larry710]

Yesterday was the first time taking my bike off road. I forgot about abs, and nearly had a major get off!!! So dangerous. Zero control of the brakes/bike. I went through the song and dance and turned it off. Then went home and located the fuse and pulled it and threw it in the bin. A small piece of electric tape over the abs light and woolla!

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@larry710 so no abs on the street? Ride safe

[@larry710]

@KairyuRider I've been riding for 33 years. Street riding for 30. Never had a bike with abs until now. When I had to pass a motorcycle course when I was 16, the final test was emergency stopping from 50km/h without locking the rear (or front) wheel. Looking back it was a valuable less I took for granted.... bike control!

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

My Suzuki gsx8s has a quickshifter, meh. None of the bikes I've ever owned had cruise control so it's impossible for me to miss it, plus I choose to ride a manual bike by choice. My car has adaptive cruise, cvt, etc, but I'm choosing to ride my motorcycle specifically for the distinct contrast to my car. The only improvements I'd like to see on my transalp is the ability to totally turn off TC and better oem suspension, even though my suspension is superb now after upgrading it.

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

PS tubeless rims would also be great.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@@tonyjourneyman1944 I have a video on DIY tubeless I'll do a video soon on a solution to the transalp electronics

[@Playncooler]

​@KairyuRider yeah but how safe are those DIY tubeless conversions? I'm pretty scared of a failure or blowout of the tape/seals when riding.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@Playncooler it wouldn't blow out all of a sudden, 1 spoke would create a slow leak. A tube could burst.

[@verbalwidget0919]

It's such a slap in the face from Yamaha. I'll keep my 2022 Tenere because it just got worse.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

Yamaha cp2 is the most reliable engine out there. You can keep it for year and not get any new debt😁 I'd say keep a bike you're happy with

[@Threedogsinatrenchcoat]

Idk yamahas lineup is odd, i dont think those with decision making capabilities ride the motorcycles. The yz yzx and wr-f are effectively the same cross country race bike, in adventure the tenere and tracer 9 are well over 400lbz and lack adequate suspension for off roading. Mx/enduro/dual sport/urban riders have been literally begging them for a 350 offering for well over ten years, but they decide to fund projects like the niken instead...

[@123phobia123]

yo, what windshield combo you have on that transalp?

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

See my transalp playlist. Everything is in there

[@PLAN50]

For adventures, no. Too complicated, top heavy, small range, price - plus stand, crash bars, etc.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@@PLAN50 2025 drz 400?

[@gustavoqb]

You complain about wireless trottle at the sabe time that you miss automatic transmission. Both are on the same side of the road

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

I don't complain about ride by wire, I point out that others may be put off by it. It was a big selling point of the t7

[@ShaftDrive]

The same reason many of us will never buy a Transalp. Just doesnt comed close to the tenere in other areas. Top heavy, you must have never ridden any adv bike over 1000cc

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@@ShaftDrive africa twin was close, 1250gs was nowhere near as top heavy at the t7

[@convertorx]

What do I think- just buy a bike that you like and DONT knock bikes you dont like.Prrick

[@nonsolorasatura9093]

I ear the Honda DCT weight 10kg,that alone is sufficient to avoid to think to put it on lighter motorbike.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

Y-AMT IS 2.4KG But the dct is so low in the frame, I've ridden africatwin back to back dct and manual and didn't notice the weight difference

[@MujoNovak]

Rather not to think on "whiskey-throttle" with a DCT. You are dead.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@MujoNovak not sure what you mean

[@nonsolorasatura9093]

@@DragoniteMotoJP Whiskey-throttle occurs when you lose control of the throttle grip and try to hold on, resulting in even more acceleration. So I guess him means that with a DCT system when the friction don't exist, maybe could became a major problem address a similar scenario.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@nonsolorasatura9093 thanks for explaining. Not sure how that's worse on dct than on manual.

[@Shadyarva]

you do not need cruise control on offroad!

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@@Shadyarva what's your point? this is an adv touring bike, not a Duelsport...

[@Shadyarva]

@KairyuRider it is more oriented on dirt.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

@Shadyarva it's a touring back made dirt capable. If you not riding long distance to the dirt, don't buy this at all. Get a duelsport. This only makes sense over a duelsport dor long distances between you and the dirt.

[@Shadyarva]

@@DragoniteMotoJP no. Its a dirt bike/enduro make to take long distances! Looks like an enduro, ride like an enduro, suspension like an enduro only more heavy, durable.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

Lol

[@RunAwaylilGirl]

For some wierd reason cfmoto450 feels better

[@violetspider_]

Buy a 2020. A lot cheaper, better

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

2024 is the same as 2020, nicer dash, and seperate abs function. I assume by time the 2025 come out, the 2020-2024 t7's will sky rocket in price