Will I Upgrade to The New 2025 Tenere 700?

[@frankspencer5368]

I just come back from eicma Milan and I realised one thing. My 1987 tenere and my civic 1991 is gold, and I'm a poor happy man.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@fqras]

They added stuff nobody asked for and didn’t add stuff everyone asked for. Great job Yamaha.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Not sure about it, they just followed the market.

[@MujoNovak]

LOL good one.

[@valeriykrylov1855]

Yeah, better to make good exhaust or tubeless tyres.

[@fqras]

@@motorcycleadventures They followed the wrong market apparently.

[@gavriil4592]

Simplicity! We proudly own the last simple adv bike 😊

[@motorcycleadventures]

Absolutely!

[@DrazenCika]

Tha last simple Tenere was the last air cooled, carburated, where you could ride even with the flat battery...

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

@@gavriil4592 itchy boots riding same 1987 tenere around turkey

[@robertbagnall4106]

I knew the answer before I watched this😂. I agree with you, simple is best for reliability and the cost of changing is not worth it. Enjoy your trip to South America 👍

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks, man!

[@allanb52]

"Smile on my face"...the most important factor in any "adventure" bike. DON'T "Spend money you don't have on shit you don't need". Keep up the good work.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Exactly!

[@vasiliskoukoulis8957]

I agree 100% with you. Specially the "ride by wire" we don't need it in the middle of nowhere

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@gavinjobson3404]

You feel exactly the same as I do, my world raid is not perfect but it's perfect for me, I bloody love it and it's round lights, stay safe and enjoy the ride my friend.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@mehdimirza8777]

Excellent beautiful Explanation good service to Humanity and Riders

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks a lot!

[@SKgeostrat]

Common sense that I agree with. Best wishes for your South America trip. I will follow your travels!

[@SB967]

Just bought a 2020 T7 because it’s a simple reliable cool looking motorcycle 👍 some good points made on your reasons for not upgrading, it all comes down to what suits the individual. I understand some people prefer up to date technology and like connectivity. I want to stay away from it and only add what I need.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@teneretraveller8980]

A very logical argument. Stick, not twist. Ride safe 👍

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thank you, Richard! All the best!

[@guzziman]

The real change they should have made is tubeless tires …better for 90 percent of people , and the hardcore guys can always carry a tube and use it if they want to

[@motorcycleadventures]

They will probably do it in the future.

[@guzziman]

@@motorcycleadventuresI would add that the $11000 price here in the US is with out taxes, freight and other dealer fees, once the dealer add all these fees including preparation fee it will be $14500 or so…. Maybe in Europe is different but here you can easily add $2000 to $4000 for dealer fees and taxes

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good to know, thanks!

[@makan1568]

The same here in Canada. I’m happy that they released 2025 T7 because 2020/21 model will be dirty cheap.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@tommyinoz2100]

great video as usual, same reasons for me and many other T7 owners I guess!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@bosoceansport2068]

Another great video. Thank you. 🙏

[@motorcycleadventures]

My pleasure!

[@ericpeterson4489]

I got a 2024 T7 last year and love it! The reasons I wanted is it’s simplicity and ease of maintenance. Like you, I wish Yamaha would have kept the T7 as is… plain and simple. I am glad I was able to get a new one before they upgraded the bike with electronics.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Well... it is what it is!

[@CKOTOTOURISM]

As a T7 owner, totally agree with you!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@mikeskidmore6754]

Shorter intake runners for more low rpm torque. Not much info in the USA. The lower seat version interests me. I once saw mention of E-85 flex fuel compatibility, that would be cool

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@ginnybourne6374]

Disappointing that they are starting to add all the electronic riding aids. I bought my 2020 T7 because it did not have them.

[@motorcycleadventures]

It is what it is!

[@erikgeldner9593]

Me too for the 2022 model.

[@_trao]

Me too

[@hondabuilder11]

On the new 2025 model the changed the muffler bracket. And frame is improved. I am going to buy the new model

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@MtbPoland]

Thank you, God bless

[@motorcycleadventures]

Any time!

[@mariiivanov3290]

The lower seat height option + the lower center of gravity is the main benefit of this "facelift". And it is very, very good, because some people like me (175 cm tall) may start considering this otherwise outstanding bike!

[@brestman1]

Yamaha should put a high mount for the rear pipe and exhaust

[@motorcycleadventures]

Agree!

[@MajomHus]

Long Haul Paul had almost 320k kms on his Tenere 700 earlier this year, I bet even more by now. I am currently on 24k on mine, this bike will outlast me :D

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@therealtashiro]

The new 2025 T7 looks yummy, especially if you don't already own one. The new 450 dual-sport/small adventure bikes look enticing too!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Agree!

[@MajomHus]

I love the new small adv's, too bad everyone is aiming at A2 riders with them so with 48hp they have to have 175kg because of EU regulation, or they could make them lighter.

[@ivanlalev8223]

В какво се изразяват проблемите с "ride by wire"?

[@idziesiezebyisc.6233]

I do remember your review of xt660z with "bulletproof engine"... So many years passed but it is still great. And now I'm the owner of 660 😉

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good! Enjoy it!

[@ThePlatonius]

I think if you have a T7 right now, no need to upgrade. If you are planning on buying one, you might want to consider it. I'm looking at the World Raid still, as it was not changed to the new stuff. Less electronics, less issues usually, even though I think Yamaha is super reliable. The new Rally looks super great, with better suspension. Currently I'm riding 60-70% of the time off road on my old Super Tenere, and it would be a huge upgrade for me no matter what version I would get.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@BiggityBuckBumble]

It’s not so much what the market wants. The market has been very loud about not wanting electronics in their bikes. But this is all to comply with EURO5+ regulations. Yamaha retailers won’t be able to sell new bikes without it next year. Good news for people who want the models without it. They’ll most likely be able to get this year’s model for cheaper as the retailers need to clear inventory. Thank you for the video, love to hear your grounded opinions on these kind of things. Safe travels!

[@motorcycleadventures]

I won't agree! What I, you, and a hundred people want is not what 90% of the motorcyclists want! Of all the riders that I met in the last 10 years, only a few prefer to stay away from electronics. So, Yamaha knows very well what will sell, like hot bread, and just gives it to them.

[@BiggityBuckBumble]

I believe you, they might very well be a loud minority. However, it still doesn’t change the fact that EURO5+ will force manufacturers to go ride-by-wire. Another example is Suzuki’s new dr-z4s.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Might be!

[@matthewjames4268]

I'll upgrade mine when they make an 800/900 Tenere with cruise and tubeless.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@nomekingg]

I'm about to buy a tenere which year model should i focus on ? There are so many 3000km used with some extras about a grand off so they feel like very good deals + i dont really care to have it brand new

[@motorcycleadventures]

Depends on what you want!

[@kostasbarakos9949]

As a owner of Tenere 24 , i agree with Pavel . We shouldn't forget that we had choose T7 couse to simplicity and reliability. Let the time show the truth.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@petewatson9866]

Why fix something that’s not broken? I never understand people who must have the latest thing, mobile, car, bike

[@motorcycleadventures]

Me either, but...

[@pabloheinpereirastolle1887]

I totally agree about this ride by wire feature. That is not a good idea on ADV bikes. The less electronics, the better. Another feature these kinds of motorcycles must have is a kickstarter, always, period. There is a big difference between being stranded on a motorway or being stranded amidst the Sahara. Try to push and start your bike in the sand or mud. Challenge! When RE promoted its Himalayan 450, i couldn't believe they added ride by wire. I was expecting an upgraded agricultural motorbike with better power performances. Not an R2D2 on two wheels. Big nono on this feature. Noraly from Itchy Boots has taken a totally refurbished vintage Tenere 600 to her new adventure. She shows the bike while being prepared on a few chapters. Such a bike is what i mean.

[@motorcycleadventures]

It is what it is! Not sure that Noraly did the right choice, but will see.

[@chriscooperCRF300]

I'm in the market for a new T7, I've been waiting to see the 2025, think I'll be buying a 2024 world raid 👌🏼

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@nunofjantunes]

How i understand you. I've got a 2019 Tracer 900GT with 60000kms , it didn't have any problems apart from the fork sealings , and i have no plans on changing it , even if the new 2025 Tracer 9GT+ has major improvements over the old Tracer 9GT+ and even more over mine . But are they really important? No. I have the same big smile on my face just like on the day i bought it. Most important is what i do and not what i have :) . Have a nice ride in South America

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[@Aliberktas]

Thank you for another honest comments. Just after i saw new model features i felt like “what they will change on my feeling when i am on it” i mean i haven’t imagined any of it before. So i think these changes seems a little tricky to sell more people but not suitable for T7 spirit

[@motorcycleadventures]

I agree, but...

[@brestman1]

The simplicity of the first T7 is why we wanted it in the first place...now it's more complicated electronics that can be possible problems in future

[@motorcycleadventures]

True!

[@vadimlevi]

there is nothing reliable more than a single cable

[@motorcycleadventures]

Agree, but...

[@tommyinoz2100]

the single cable which is attached to a potentiometer and analyzed by software? definitely not, and hand feedback is actually zero to ridebywire. Nothing is more simple than a cable opening a butterfly...

[@motorcycleadventures]

Exactly!

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

Thanks for the good summary, and I agree Yamaha have not done enough to warrant an upgrade, especially if you have already upgraded your suspension. They should consider the changes that their customer base have been asking for and have been making to their T7s, like a bolt-on exhaust hanger or tubeless wheels. Or how about HDPE plastics instead of ABS, and headlight circuitry that doesn't self destruct when you hook up a spot light? And if they were going to have ride-by-wire, then the first addition is surely cruise control. There are many ways that Yamaha could have improved on the original, but are now seen to be followers rather than leaders.

[@motorcycleadventures]

I am sure that their marketing department knows what they need.

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

​@@motorcycleadventures I have no faith in marketing departments. Remember the T7, one of the world's most successful adventure bikes, was an idea from ex riders in Yamaha Europe who fought tooth and nail with marketing to get what they wanted. Just for a laugh, Google "Ugly Kia Tasman Ute Australia", and then come back and tell me marketing departments know what they are doing!

[@Shaun-o1l]

Word, Pavel

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for taking the time!

[@stefanemanuelsson2201]

I know the answer to this :) Who needs a fidgety thumb wheel? But, the World Raid variant they released 2022 seems rather popular with the upgraded suspension and travel. Alright, now that i got that out of the way i will enjoy your new video.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for taking the time!

[@stefanemanuelsson2201]

@@motorcycleadventures Now that i watched it i stand corrected. Seems they fixed what needs to be fixed! Picked what people like from World Raid, fixed the thumb wheel. Too bad about the ride by wire. Would be nice if there was the option not to have it. Other than that i would like one. Thank you

[@clayfarnet970]

Before watching, I’m going to guess he’ll say no to an upgrade. Simplicity is it virtue. 👍👍

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@MujoNovak]

How many km you have on your bike?

[@motorcycleadventures]

80,000km

[@MujoNovak]

@@motorcycleadventures good!

[@rodrigomussak]

Finally Yamaha will put the T7 in the brazilian market untill june 25... I hope they launch the improved 2025 model. I am waiting for it since 2019.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@samhill3496]

Simplicity of design and use was always the T7's greatest attribute for RTW travel. Commonality of design is what the factory installs on several different models with CP2 PowerPlant. Easy to build is it. All pretty much the same with some different add on. We didn't ask for it but got it anyway

[@samhill3496]

Good report Pavlin

[@motorcycleadventures]

Well... marketing!

[@georgikukov5129]

Thank you for another great video Pavlin! Its wise from Yamaha to compete on the market, probably the market for ADV bikes is very desperate since we see this specific mods on a Tenere. I would be expecting this mods on the new TDM, including heated grips and atleast air suspension with on demand control like the new CRF from honda. It all boils down to Engineers that truly love bikes and strive to deliver the best possible Bike to consumers, and imbeciles that allocate funds -> "we can not use a carbon fiber frame on the production line, suspension deals are already done, make sure the bike fits, electronic displays and carplay integration will cost much money for programing ECT." The Tenere is a very simple bike, you get reliability with it, nothing more! Is this the beginning of the end for the Tenere?

[@motorcycleadventures]

Could be! Only the future will show who was right!

[@arturoiannuzzi2985]

Thank you

[@motorcycleadventures]

Any time!

[@ZMan-z2r]

So, for 2025 do I get the BMW F800 GS, the Honda Transalp, or the Yamaha Tenere 700, the new model. If it has cruise control and the other upgrades I am hearing about, that will be it. I love that bike for road and trail

[@motorcycleadventures]

Whatever you like the most!

[@MrPepsilon]

Never ever have I wanted a cruise control on my bike. And I have ridden full day, long stretches on highways and autobahn in EU, and on freeways in the States. Having a hard time staying alert as it is without it. It is about staying connected with the bike and the road you are riding. Who is using it CC on minor roads, and gravel anyway? And I dont want TFT either. But on a few occasions I missed having a kickstart though! 😅

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@justmyself1000]

Really shocked they kept the exhaust bracket and location? I'm your age and we did not grow up with a quick shifter. Unless I'm going to be doing some kind of Moto GP racing I have absolutely no need for a quick shifter I don't understand the hype

[@motorcycleadventures]

Yes, tell me about it!

[@bikes.plus.art2023]

I am planning to get a used T7 but I am hearing a lot of clutch issue.... how did everyone solve that problem?

[@motorcycleadventures]

There are no problems with the clutch. It just sounds weird for a second when it's cold.

[@timlubbers2884]

Sounds kinda like if you already have a t7, no need to upgrade. But if you are first buying maybe the new version?

[@motorcycleadventures]

Depends!

[@clivedarwell5732]

I'll be interested to see if people stop buying them - I don't think people buy them because they're the best mid-weight ADVs, but because they're simple and trust the reliability of a low-tech machine.

[@motorcycleadventures]

I think that they will buy them even more. Despite what I or you think!

[@bingolio]

TOO MANY ELECTRONICS! Best model now 2024

[@motorcycleadventures]

It is what it is!

[@AlekreSD]

Easy to understand. Pavlin logic is common sense. Factory and financial department have different plan. They did great job at first launching middleweight simple and reliable little Tenere. They did BOOM, got money. Now Tenere 700 is old model, they just added gadgets to create "NEW MODEL" so they can squize more money out of it. But since people accept is NEW and BETTER.. Well... Think with your head.

[@motorcycleadventures]

True!

[@glight5205]

Why I have the feeling that people will want the 1sr generation of Tenere more?

[@motorcycleadventures]

You will be surprised! Yamaha marketing department know very well what clients wants! Not many people like me and you.

[@valeriykrylov1855]

Hi Pavlin. Have the same thoughts as yours. Ride by wire sucks..

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@whatupg1]

The 25 T7 I believe is also 3kg heavier

[@motorcycleadventures]

True! I forgot to say it in the video.

[@rideordietheyretring2tranx382]

fair is fair

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@motoric5188]

This year I bought new T7 and made only 1500kms with it. I thought I will regret it after the news came out for 2025 model. I don't feel sorry. :)

[@murat_ozer]

I want to grow old with my 2020 T7, just like with my wife 😃

[@palamidagheo4520]

i agree that young people want color displays and all kinds of bling blings but i doubt that they don't want reliability too. i predict yamaha's ''automatic'' transmission coming on tenere too

[@motorcycleadventures]

Yes, it is coming.

[@surfer30071972]

I won’t 😅 just got mine for 3 weeks and 1500km on the clock 😂

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@surfer30071972]

@ and now I am gonna watch the video thnx!!! For your work

[@motorcycleadventures]

Any time!

[@QuinceMedia]

2024 model. Two weeks here and 1100km already 😊. Warm regards from Serbia!

[@surfer30071972]

@@QuinceMedia thank you, Serbia is on my todo list from the Netherlands to you 💪🤣💪

[@paulcoverdale8312]

Unfortunately the new T7s are a victim of the old one’s success. I luv the no nonsense t7. Not the I want the LOOK, but, I want the toys too bullshit, bcs I’m never goin off rd. An of course this all pushes up the prices!, Ya gotta luv marketing!💩💩💩💩💩 Great vid as normal Pav, Stickin with the same wife in stead of playing the feild an getting a dose of the clap , so to speak. 🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️💎💎

[@motorcycleadventures]

Exactly!

[@rockintigger]

You’re like me, more toys equals more to go wrong and like yourself, I to like value for money. 👍 Stay safe mate

[@motorcycleadventures]

Right on!

[@andyan417]

logical thinking

[@motorcycleadventures]

The only one I have!

[@armystrong123g]

I hope they will come with a new tenere world raid in 2026 I will wait for that

[@motorcycleadventures]

They will probably!

[@chriscooperCRF300]

I agree, I'm about to buy a 24 world raid, not tempted with the 2025 standard or Rally, I'll run a world raid and make a decision in a year or so 👍🏼

[@miclinda256]

Yes! T9 y-amt and Cruise to compete with the big boys 😊

[@jazdanakuliblogmotocyklowy136]

Yes. My €4 Tenere 2020 is the best also. Its sad but New Tenere is a sign od new era everywhere, and oldschool motorcycles like Tenere 2020 are gone forever. For me a great disapointment is weight - new Tenere is 4kg heavier and Rally is 6kg more. Look for the new Tuareg 660 Rally - they made 199kg wet!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Tuareg is not an option!

[@jazdanakuliblogmotocyklowy136]

@motorcycleadventures 4 me 2, but 199kg is pretty good result. I was not expacting they made it.

[@kalpetkoff]

Your bike with the TFT dashboard is even more reliable than the 2023-2024 models.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Agree, but...

[@kalpetkoff]

@@motorcycleadventures also, first generation of every new model comes with some flows. I bet there will be some things they need to fix.

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

Apparently 2025 changes to the Honda Transalp are extremely minimal, maybe manufacturers decided to ignore consumers?

[@motorcycleadventures]

They have all of these with the first edition.

big upgrade is slippery clutch system, the others facelifts...

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@simmysharma6845]

I am not sure I would want a ride by wire 😊

[@KevGoesRiding]

World raid owner here, I see absolutely no reason to buy the new base model if I had the current base model

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@h.l.3628]

Yamaha, don't change what made the Tenere 700 an icon - a back to basic, no BS reliable motorcycle!

[@motorcycleadventures]

They will!

[@nastysoda9212]

Where are you guys getting the info for the new T7? I can only find fake AI made videos. nothing on yamaha's site

[@motorcycleadventures]

Official Yamaha website.

[@nastysoda9212]

@@motorcycleadventures thanks! Damn still no rally or "off-road version in the US. only base model. That's really a bummer.

[@motorcycleadventures]

It will come.

[@pauldejohn8710]

Guess I'm buying an aprilla

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good luck!

[@panagiotiskioussis5634]

I don’t thing you are going to get 9 k for a 2021 tenere with 80 k km. It’s quite optimistic price .

[@motorcycleadventures]

You never know! I sold the old 660 for 3,000 euros on 193,000km

[@panagiotiskioussis5634]

@@motorcycleadventures 😂😂i have a feeling that you will ride this tenere for many many km. You will reach 200 k for sure

[@majormassenspektrometer]

Tenere was made to be simple and they change that. They should fix on improving the existing design but not add unnecessary stuff. Keep it simple, stupid. Sadly yes, it's going the same way as other manufacturers also driving the price up.

[@motorcycleadventures]

It is what it is!

[@tomtomek2642]

thanks again Pavlin for the video !! the ride by wire system is no go for me ,the old one was super to ride exactly because they don't have it ,simple thing is always better!!!!

[@motorcycleadventures]

I agree with you!

[@oxyg3n600]

If the suspension is really 100% identical to the one on world raid then this is useless supension. Damping is totally messed. If the internals are bit different then it could be ok. But I doubt.

[@motorcycleadventures]

It is the same.

[@oxyg3n600]

@@motorcycleadventures Too bad. I sold my WR after 500 miles because of that.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@sandwaves5642]

If they added the CC and tubeless wheels - it could, potentially, be a bike for me. BUT - having all that, already, on another bike - this new T7 is not even an option 🤷‍♂ And regarding YOUR case : after your Magadan trip, after "advertising" this bike as an EXTREMELY reliable one...... Yamaha still, didn't offer you, at least, this new 2025 version of T7 ⁉⁉🤢🤢 I realize - they ARE a pretty stingy company, but to be SOOOO stingy ?‼‼🤮🤮

[@motorcycleadventures]

Well...Yamaha does not really care for people like me. They have more than enough people waiting for their bikes.

[@wb4367]

I don't understand why they put a bigger display and do not include android auto/ apple car play. Bigger is not better for the adventure market. Same for traction control, why put it on the mt07 and not on the T7. So they put all the gimmicks and electronics on the bike without using the advantages they normally bring. Very disappointing.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Probably they have their reasons.

[@wb4367]

@motorcycleadventures the reasons is to be able to "update" the bike in 2026. Typical japanese strategy, hold back features to steer customers (see Honda TA / AT).

[@motorcycleadventures]

Maybe!

[@gryphongryph]

A good Update in my opinion, traction control can be turned off, it is good to have on the street in slippery weather. I think it should have cruise control as an option as many people travel with these bikes and at times have to take expressway / highway to get to their destination. Be interesting what they will do with the world raid? The hanger for the exhaust has been beefed up I see, I don’t think Yamaha has had many problems with former design, otherwise they would probably make it a bolt on instead of welded on? I like the subtle changes for the bike, especially if the rider can turn rider aids off.

[@MarCus-so4du]

Yes you will becouse of mileage on your bike. 😅

[@motorcycleadventures]

Not before 200,000km!

[@VeryImportantPepe]

Before watching I can already answer: YES, you will upgrade, because you love new technology :)

[@motorcycleadventures]

Correct!

[@googlelimp9834]

yeah id like your type less the elctrics the better i like the look of the new one prefere the front end and some other parts of the new one but like you id buy the older one and just put a larger tank and a center stand maybe some other little bits, im going to Bulgaria so hope to bump in to you sometime

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good! Just contact me once you get there.

[@googlelimp9834]

@@motorcycleadventures will do