Why Im Leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses

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Mark Rosenthal Photography

Mark Rosenthal Photography

Күн бұрын

A brief summary of why i've decided to leave. Thank you for taking the time to listen. I hope My story can help those in a similar place and also help those close to me understand my reasons for stepping away.

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@raydosson2025
@raydosson2025 5 күн бұрын
Your story deeply resonates with me. As someone who walked away from a fundamentalist Christian background, I recognize those painful moments of questioning, the intellectual honesty that requires you to confront uncomfortable truths, and the courage it takes to step away from a belief system that once defined your entire world. Your vulnerability in sharing this journey-how you gradually questioned things, felt the cognitive dissonance, and ultimately chose authenticity over conformity-is incredibly powerful. The way you described your process, especially how the pandemic gave you space to think critically, is so relatable. That moment of realizing you were essentially performing a belief rather than genuinely holding it is profound. Your commitment to not harboring personal resentment, but instead focusing on the systemic issues, shows real emotional maturity. Thank you for creating this video. It will undoubtedly help others who are silently struggling with similar doubts and feeling isolated. Your message that they are "not crazy" is so important. Wishing you peace and continued growth on your journey of self-discovery.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
beautiful comment. this is so well said. Its making me a bit emotional. thank you!
@1697djh
@1697djh 4 күн бұрын
Please define "fundamentalist Christian."? In the Pentecostal /Charismatic/ Renewal movement, it does not surprise me.
@DakotaFord592
@DakotaFord592 3 күн бұрын
Omg!!! This man is so beautiful!!!!!!! I will get lost in between his 🎂 for the next 365,0000 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His 🐾 too!!!!
@johndemola1608
@johndemola1608 2 күн бұрын
@@1697djh Those are completely opposite from fundamentalism
@therealexistentialist
@therealexistentialist 6 күн бұрын
Look at how many people are arriving to your video. You're not alone in this. A lot of people are walking away right now. Which makes me happy. 😊
@greyberet1
@greyberet1 6 күн бұрын
And not only are you not alone in this, you are certainly a source of inspiration to more others than you’ll ever know 😆! And maybe this testimony is the final factor necessary for their own emancipation! Never know what gives another the courage to follow in the steps of others, so to speak… Cheers from canada!
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
This has been crazy, I did not expect this kind of response thank you
@therealexistentialist
@therealexistentialist 6 күн бұрын
@@markrosenthalphotography2310 a lot of folks can relate, and your video format was great, sweet and to the point! Hang in there!
@Sophia-hj3ko
@Sophia-hj3ko 6 күн бұрын
@@greyberet1 same from Australia! Love your video! In fact, I read it via transcription not to loose a word. I see clear steps I went through with my adventism. Thank you so much for giving it a voice!
@Sophia-hj3ko
@Sophia-hj3ko 6 күн бұрын
@@markrosenthalphotography2310 why? You are really great! Sincere, with gread thinking, non-emotional brain. Just what I needed! Subscribed!
@bethany45101
@bethany45101 6 күн бұрын
I was born into the JWs and left about 10 years ago. At first, it feels like your entire world is ripped away. But over time things become more clear and it gets easier. Now, I don’t really even think of myself as an exjw. I’m just me. I do things that make myself, my husband and my kids happy. We live good lives and we just become “normal”. Feeling normal is the best feeling. Welcome to your freedom. ❤
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
thank you for this i cant wait to get to that point in life!
@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan
@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan 6 күн бұрын
Mark it is hard at first, the mental indoctrination, the brain washing, feelings of guilt for not attending meetings etc. Over time these feelings do vanish. They do leave, you will gain friends outside of this cult. The love shown at the meetings do show their true colours of conditional love. Moving on gaining true friends who respect your decisions, who have your back will return. Keep safe mate.
@christinesotelo7655
@christinesotelo7655 6 күн бұрын
It really does all unfold. You learn how beautiful the world really is, there ARE kind people. And no more fear. I look back now and realize how often the Bible TOLD us: “Fear not”. And my favorite: “Stand still and know that I am God”. We were meant to be happy, not frightened into submission. Spirit soar. Be free.
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
@@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan I have studied brainwashing for a long time and believe me when i tell you the society we live in is the most brainwashed society the world has ever known. far worse than the JW. You where relatively safe in the JW, sure you had a false Gospel and a false Jesus. But im telling you now, you need Jesus. This world is 100% run by Satan. You better get that armor of God and don't let it go. Because people like you are like a fresh baby bunny and the wolves are in the bushes just waiting for their moment. A few have probably alredy taken a bite but you didn't even notice. Get Jesus and don't let go for anything. Or maybe you have become a wolf.
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
@@christinesotelo7655I have studied brainwashing for a long time and believe me when i tell you the society we live in is the most brainwashed society the world has ever known. far worse than the JW. You where relatively safe in the JW, sure you had a false Gospel and a false Jesus. But im telling you now, you need Jesus. This world is 100% run by Satan. You better get that armor of God and don't let it go. Because people like you are like a fresh baby bunny and the wolves are in the bushes just waiting for their moment. A few have probably alredy taken a bite but you didn't even notice. Get Jesus and don't let go for anything. Or maybe you have become a wolf.
@kmm291
@kmm291 6 күн бұрын
In 34 years out 18. When you wake up you can’t fall back asleep. Everything will brighten the way. Thanks for sharing.
@AntarcticTornadoChaser
@AntarcticTornadoChaser 5 күн бұрын
Dude, the production value of this video is insane. This must have taken a long time to create. And the delivery of the narrative never once got stale. You have a natural & authentic voice that's easy to listen to. All this to say, you absolutely need to produce more content in this style…documentaries, personal takes on anything. You will end up making a living eventually
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 4 күн бұрын
thanks! well see what happens...
@tessahiggins8142
@tessahiggins8142 2 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same. You are so talented. The production value on this is amazing. And it does get easier. I've been out 21 years and never looked back. Now go find YOUR purpose.
@GhostPants16
@GhostPants16 9 күн бұрын
Without a doubt, one of the hardest roads I've walked in my entire life. This was an incredible video, Mark. I'm incredibly proud of you.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 8 күн бұрын
Thank you that really does mean a lot
@HerefortheLove
@HerefortheLove 6 күн бұрын
Yes, incredibly difficult. I’m proud of all of us. ❤️‍🩹
@mavrosyvannah
@mavrosyvannah 6 күн бұрын
​@markrosenthalphotography2310 the damage is so deep that you think a stranger being proud of you is worth anything but a hill of beans. If you can get therapy, or date a female doctor, psychologist, a former deconstructed bible cult victim, that can give you an advantage. When tough time arrive and they will, it's not the devil they hypnotized you into believing. We were all hypnotized in slow form. It was hidden under that label of bible study.
@ASMR_Orangely
@ASMR_Orangely 6 күн бұрын
*Tour profile pic is funny! Whos that character? And why Mr Pants?*
@DakotaFord592
@DakotaFord592 3 күн бұрын
Omg!!! This man is so beautiful!!!!!!! I will get lost in between his 🎂 for the next 365,0000 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His 🐾 too!!!!
@KimMikeyex-jw
@KimMikeyex-jw 6 күн бұрын
Welcome to the ex-jw community & your freedom. There is a lot of history we all never knew about. Thank you for adding your voice. We're from the 1975 'Screwed generation" lol. Mike says thank you for not having your music so loud we couldn't hear you. Hugs & love 🥰
@christinesotelo7655
@christinesotelo7655 6 күн бұрын
These people are wonderful! And like me, the 1975 Armageddon survivors! Beautiful folks. Like you, they truly have helped so many. ❤
@ro88assmusic4
@ro88assmusic4 5 күн бұрын
362 subscribers to your channel Mark, 10k views on this video, your potential is huge to help out in the ex jw community, please keep it up
@JoelPichardo-r1e
@JoelPichardo-r1e 6 күн бұрын
My wife and I just saw your video. A lot really resonated with us. This was incredibly courageous of you. We had been in the organization for over 25 years baptized and like you, we are on a similar journey. I hope your mental health is well and you are seeking things that are uplifting, truthful and good for you. Thank you for doing the things publicly that many of us could not.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
This really means a lot thank you.
@KenDFilms
@KenDFilms 6 күн бұрын
Spent most of my childhood, teenage and early adult years as a very active JW. I started fading in 2018 and completely left in 2021. Moved to NYC and started a new life. Everything worked out and I'm happier than ever. You got this!
@ronaldvanleeuwen8337
@ronaldvanleeuwen8337 6 күн бұрын
I don't think you completely left... You are still registered as a jw... It's an impossible mission to get out of their archives... Have you even tried??? Go find out for yourself....
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
amazing, id be interested to hear your story. I checked out your channel and i think we have a shared love of photo/video. great content btw
@Northwestlogger
@Northwestlogger 6 күн бұрын
Thank you young man for your heartfelt testimony. I’m much older than you (83) and was told in 1974 that the end was coming in 75, and unless I joined Jehovah would destroy me. After 40 years in finally woke up after watching the ARC findings on sex abuse in the org. I left the Watchtower and turned to Christ for my salvation and after severing those ties I now am free to pursue the truth without the influence of the Watchtower. The best to you my friend in your own quest for truth. 😊
@christinesotelo7655
@christinesotelo7655 6 күн бұрын
God bless you! Me too: 1975 Armageddon. I lost my family after being “removed” and shunned nearly to death (I had disagreed with a doctrine). That was my Armageddon! Glad to have made it to “the other side”! I found the world to be filled with kind and good people. ❤
@Sportliveonline
@Sportliveonline 6 күн бұрын
what do you mean
@christinesotelo7655
@christinesotelo7655 5 күн бұрын
@@Sportliveonline you learn by experience who to let into your life. Your discernment develops. In JWs, you learn you have to get along with that group of people only. There’s a whole wonderful world of good people but JWs are taught to smile and hook them “in” or to avoid them because they believe they’re going to be destroyed.
@A-RonHubbard
@A-RonHubbard 5 күн бұрын
Incredible. This gives hope to people of *any* age! It's never too late to take back your life.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and listen to me tell my story i really respect that you made the decision you did at your age. thats incredible.
@concamon1364
@concamon1364 5 күн бұрын
A whole new wave of really well shot "waking up" videos have graced my home page and I couldn't be happier 😊
@anthonypozzim
@anthonypozzim 6 күн бұрын
I’m proud of you Mark. My mom became a witness when I was in middle school. I can relate to so much of your story. It’s scary leaving but life is so much better after waking up. You can be your authentic self. Live life on your terms. Not watchtower’s terms.
@urszula537
@urszula537 6 күн бұрын
I feel exacty this same as you. I ended up with depression and i didn't know why. Now i am free from any religion and happy 😊 Thank you for yor story
@RiesenWuschel
@RiesenWuschel 3 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry and I hope you won't get shunned too badly and have support in friends and family. Edit: I'm not sorry about you breaking free, just about the stress this causes, which it shouldn't.
@jaredt.murphy8257
@jaredt.murphy8257 5 күн бұрын
Showing the articles while walking the viewer through your emotional experience is a very valuable way to share this. Beautiful shot. I was at my most passionate in the org around HS graduation. Then, I saw the JW broadcast with the new (infamous) generation teaching. I sat by my desk lamp and made a simple equation. I realized that this "new light" moved out Armageddon by about one lifetime. In other words, I realized that taken to its most extreme variation, Armageddon would have to arrive by the time I turn 89. This forced me to realize that it would be possible to reach the end of a long life, and find out- unequivocally, that the organization was not led by any supreme being. That one thought would allow me to question, and soon, I would find an ocean of evidence that the organization has been wrong, over and over, and is far from spotless, and is frequently cruel, constantly, and deeply manipulative. We. were. tricked. I hope that you seek help, and that you're well. You're not alone.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
thank you, i like the way you broke it down. once one domino falls its over
@jaredt.murphy8257
@jaredt.murphy8257 2 күн бұрын
There is some great research out there about why some people join religions, and why some people leave them. It appears that those who join religion, after not being raised so, it provides a "solution" for them. Community, a kind of certainty, sources of support based on shared beliefs. In contrast, those of us who leave religion after being raised in it leave, not out of emotion, or some "lack" (as an oppressive religion might frame it), and certainly not because you were "faking" or "false" in your belief, but because you simply were faced with a simple truth your mind could not ignore. Once you realize that 1+1 does not equal 0, there really aren't mental gymnastics that can satisfyingly bring you back to the state of belief for the sake of belief. Even if you were somehow able to convince yourself that it would be "better" inside that community, you couldn't experience the same wonder they have any more, because the illusion has been broken for you. It is not hyperbole to say that leaving is a large grieving process. Grieving the loss of community, the loss of perhaps, family, friends, hopes, yearnings, years of life, of youth, stolen. I hope my many words are not a burden to you, stranger. I know not if you're fresh on this road, but I would humbly offer you one more thing I worked hard to find. It's a book called "Walking free from the trauma of coercive, cultic, and spiritual abuse, A workbook for Recovery and Growth" by Gillie Jenkinson I was recommended this book by a member of ICSA [international cultic studies association] and before reading it, I learned about the author, a cult survivor who dedicated her life to becoming a psychologist to learning how to help people recover from similar. Her thesis and this book are bookends on decades of experience helping people like us and similar recover.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 2 күн бұрын
@@jaredt.murphy8257 this is really helpful thank you I want to do more research on the psychology of all this as it is so close to home
@Angelika-wi9cv
@Angelika-wi9cv 6 күн бұрын
I'm proud of you! Great video. You are not alone. Thousands are leaving around the world right now. You will get better and better with time, you will see :)) I'm 33 years old, woke up 4 years ago, greetings from Warsaw!
@ivanovicsharapova2402
@ivanovicsharapova2402 6 күн бұрын
Leaving a religion is different from leaving God I lost half my family and my so called friends but after 4yrs now I am very respected happy successful and looking back my faith is stronger feel much better and 3 of my family members swallowed their pride and now ask me for help….. do not leave your relationship with God brother you’re not alone
@jams2399
@jams2399 5 күн бұрын
left 3 years and 3 days ago, so happy to have a new outlook on life, find what makes you happy and put all your effort into that
@TonyFlowerz
@TonyFlowerz 4 күн бұрын
Mark I disassociated myself from the JWs when I was 19 years old in 1989. I was excommunicated from my family and my whole life as a JW and was all alone in the world. I went through A LOT of struggles but the main thing I have learned is that a personal relationship with God has nothing to do with religion. Your experience and what you're going through has a purpose, keep your communication with God alive no matter what, He will see you through EVERYTHING.
@eviefriend3976
@eviefriend3976 6 күн бұрын
I was raised in. My husband and I left in early 2005. It will be a hard road but don’t give up, it is worth it. Freedom is precious. So proud of you. You will get stronger as time goes by and your spirituality will become deeper and more personal. God bless you on your journey.
@PROVOCATEURSK
@PROVOCATEURSK 6 күн бұрын
From a cult to a soft cult, not good enough.
@christinesotelo7655
@christinesotelo7655 6 күн бұрын
Spirituality, alone, ‘twixt you and God, is not cultish. Follow no man. Have no followers.
@ticktock3526
@ticktock3526 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience. After 30+ years in the organization, we came to the realization that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not have “The Truth,” and are certainly in no position to impose their opinions on anyone. Be prepared to work through the loneliness, disappointment, frustration, and a gamut of additional emotions you may incur. One day at a time, one thing at a time, one foot in front of the other. I questioned the existence of Jehovah for two years after officially leaving before I discovered who Jehovah really is and who he is not! Then slowly, I began to be introduced to the God of the Bible as I began reading again, without bias, different translations. I threw the JW Bible away along with most of their literature, keeping the Aid Book and Crisis of Conscience, both written by Raymond Franz. We all have an inherent right to find our way. Things do get better. Please don’t give up. Right now it seems like you have no one, but eventually your life will gain meaning again as you discover your authentic self, which was suppressed by The Borganization. Sincerely, Brenda
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@ticktock3526 thank you
@eyeswideopen8570
@eyeswideopen8570 6 күн бұрын
Your story is similar to mine, I left "The Truth" not knowing where to turn....I eventually turned back the Bible (a regular Bible, not their mis translation) It is scary at first, but once you realize you can live without the cult, it's all uphill from there! Glad you found your way out of there too. I was in for 60 yrs.
@razortalon9662
@razortalon9662 6 күн бұрын
Well said Brenda, I feel heartbroken that so many exjws equate leaving the witnesses with abandoning God. As you describe, there is a tough path to walk, but the true God will bless you with the peace and joy the witnesses talk of but never really know
@yolantakozlowski2382
@yolantakozlowski2382 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely beautiful video, congratulations, I applause ur intelligence, sincerity and wisdom, right decisions 👏 ❤
@pointlesssowhat
@pointlesssowhat 4 күн бұрын
I'm so happy you found the true Good of the Bible and left the god of the governing body behind. God bless you ❤️🙏
@hehj8227
@hehj8227 6 күн бұрын
Leaving is a big relief but scary experience. Just knowing people you once called friends in the Kingdom Hall now will look at you as a stranger because you left
@Jatoli
@Jatoli 6 күн бұрын
You explained everything wonderfully! My path out was much like yours. When I left, after being cornered and grilled by 3 elders in my home, I felt a huge sense of PEACE, a kind of confirmation that what I had done was right. But I did not throw out the baby with the bathwater. I bought a normal bible, threw out all Watchtower literature I had, and I kept my faith in God ( not the men in NY who think they are God) and my faith is in Jesus Christ as my savior. This was 8 years ago. I am free and happy.😊 But it does take time to adjust and to get the poison out of your system. Sometimes I miss my old friends. And conclude that I don’t really, because they were not the way real friends should behave. Best of luck to you! Life will be much better now, I promise you! 😘
@BoomRoomFive
@BoomRoomFive 6 күн бұрын
We're all entrenched in or born into cults, be they religious or consumerist. We all have the beliefs we were given destroyed. We all have to come to the truth. Nobody can bring it to you. Thanks for the candid video!
@galaxiethinker183
@galaxiethinker183 6 күн бұрын
You touched me and I cried watching your story ,I felt like you 30 years ago but was locked in and couldn't leave . Now finally I left and feel free but lost my friends and family.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@galaxiethinker183 I’m so sorry to hear your loss. It makes me happy to hear my story touched you thank you for your comment I appreciate the time you took to listen
@grazynareginia342
@grazynareginia342 5 күн бұрын
Don't be sad, try not to be. I left my Roman - catholic religion after 55y. I left because Lord Jesus Christ found me. Now I'm free in Jesus Christ. God wants our love because HE is a Love. And He wants intimacy with us. Talk, simply Talk to Him. Ask Him. ask Holly Spirit for guidance. Read Bible but not JW New World.... Lord will open your eyes... you will see. Gospel of John very powerful
@RiskeFactor
@RiskeFactor 5 сағат бұрын
@@grazynareginia342I like the NWT
@baldsealion
@baldsealion 6 күн бұрын
So much of what you said resonates with my experience. Been out since October 2023, almost 40 years born in. It can be somewhat a numb feeling to be in this stage of the wake up process, but the best news is that you have already lived through rock-bottom. Now we get to build ourselves back up on things that are “seen” and “visible” in this world instead of imaginary mental constructs and empty promises. Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing and I hope this message reaches some of your friends and family members hearts to get them to realize that their worship and sacrifice of their lives is in vain - and come to realize what really matters is that we have each other. Cheers.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
Thank you. i appreciate the time you took to listen to my story
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
Oh you think you see the visible? You aint seen nothing yet. You are in the worst cult of all and brainwased to the point you don't even realize it.
@Eva-g8r
@Eva-g8r 6 күн бұрын
You are Not alone my son i and my daughter in law was drawn into this Organisation back in the early 2000;thank god we woke up during the pandamic in 2020:as a lot of us did. take care love from Australia ❤
@donnyetta
@donnyetta 6 күн бұрын
Well done Mark, for waking up and staying awake. Enjoy your walk with God, and the peace and freedom that Jesus promised ❤
@grazynareginia342
@grazynareginia342 5 күн бұрын
Amen, freedom with Jesus is amazing. Praise The Lord
@lh1673
@lh1673 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for your voice. Imagine what a CULT will do to the innocents. The betrayal is too deep and as a pimo with believing family, it requires years to wait for the day we completely can leave!
@oa4895
@oa4895 17 сағат бұрын
It can be a sad and scary time when you stop believing. You're leaving behind a huge part of your identity, and it can leave you feeling lost and disconnected. But you can't force belief. Know that you're not alone, and you will be ok.
@Scorbiom69
@Scorbiom69 6 күн бұрын
I really appreciate your calm tone and demeanor. You are free from the mind control Cult. Never look back.
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
You know nothing about mindcontrol or cults. You are in one and you don't even know it. Thats mind control on a whole other level. JW cult was nothing compared to what you are in now. You better wake up and get Jesus my guy.
@LTearsmith
@LTearsmith 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for having the courage to share this. You have no idea how much your testimony has positively impacted my mental state at the moment. I also got married in 2021 and almost everything you mentioned word for word has been something I too have gone through while being in the organization. For years I also struggled with doubts and questions always suppressing them out of the fear of being wrong or the disappointment and shame i would bring to my family but my intuition led me down the same path you took and I began investigating and doing a deep dive into the watchtower and came to the exact same conclusion. You captured what I imagine many of us have gone through so vividly. It’s reassuring to hear that we’re not crazy and that more of us are starting to speak up. I applaud your courage and I thank you for sharing this with the world. I hope more people see this as it’s a very well put together and inspiring.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
thank you so much im glad that i could help in during this time
@norwalltino
@norwalltino 6 күн бұрын
Great testimony, honest and firm!
@mikedungan8364
@mikedungan8364 6 күн бұрын
Wow. I really appreciate you. I love your honesty and sincerity. I was baptized in 1994 and married 1 year later. I stated waking up in 2012 but 2020 was really the year of perfect vision. I just didn’t expect it to be 4.5-5 years later for me to really appreciate that. After being called an apostate by my wife for questioning the Governing Body and the clearly biased handling of the pandemic. I could see that they didn’t really care about the sheep. After preprogramming the sale of the Kingdom Halls and then doing it really opened my eyes fully so I thought. But then I started doing research into the fall of 2024 and I am disgusted, afraid, angry bust also very grateful to learn the realities of the history of this organization. I share your response by losing faith in all of the foundations of our beliefs. The disgusting sexual satanic freemasonry that has been hidden and remains hidden by the mind control tactics of fear and people putting all their eggs into one basket so too speak and then having to make the choice to lose that was and is extremely difficult. I have spent most of the last 4 years desperate and alone even though I live with my now 15 year old daughter and my wife. My wife and I don’t sleep on the same side of the house. Anyway thanks for sharing.
@grazynareginia342
@grazynareginia342 5 күн бұрын
Thanks may Lord Almighty bless you and open your eyes much wither to see everything ,to find out the facts and true in Jesus Christ name I pray. Amen
@natashapoirier7597
@natashapoirier7597 5 күн бұрын
Bravo! Well done. I admire your courage and intelligence in putting this together in a very stressful time.
@skepticalphilosophy
@skepticalphilosophy 6 күн бұрын
Excellent video, thank you for sharing your journey. I left many years ago, and now am comfortable telling people that I am a non-believer. The hardest part for me was to disconnect religion or theology from ethics or morality, and to realize that I can be a good person without being motivated by religious doctrine. I sense your compass points toward honesty and truth, and I would say to take your time, and recognize that your effort is valid. I am still learning too, but it gets better! I wish you the best!
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@skepticalphilosophy thank you for this comment you nailed it. Honesty and truth are big values for me and I felt I was violating those core values
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
There is no disconnecting morality from God. Once you deny God there is only Darwinian survival of the fittest. And the Lion is the king of the Jungle. And this kid is not built for that. He needs Jesus.
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
@@markrosenthalphotography2310 There is no disconnecting morality from God. Once you deny God there is only Darwinian survival of the fittest. And the Lion is the king of the Jungle. And this kid is not built for that. He needs Jesus. Tread very lightly brother if you have turned you back on God altogether, very lightly. Satan is real and he stalks about like a Lion seeking whom ever he can to devour.
@therealexistentialist
@therealexistentialist 6 күн бұрын
This is really well put together and revealing. Glad you're on the side of reason man!
@CatherineBellLife
@CatherineBellLife 5 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing: Your story is relatable to SO many of us! ❤
@Moonwing72
@Moonwing72 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. You are not alone. I was born in 3rd generation, and left 15 years ago. It was drummed into us about the state of the world and that everyone that wasn’t a witness was bad association. Through my job where I had a lot of contact with ‘worldly’ people and learned that they were in fact, better people than some of my JW family and friends. The worldly people were happier and functionally better at relationships and life in general. The fear tactics that I was indoctrinated with took years to break down, but I got there. The Australian royal commission just proved to me in my mind I had definitely done the right thing by leaving. Living my best and happiest life ever now! Remarried to a beautiful worldly man that treats me far better than my JW ex husband ever did. Thank you for sharing your story ♥️
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
i love hearing about people that made it out on the other side your story gives me hope thank you
@carolreilly1697
@carolreilly1697 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! I studied in my 20’s, I’m now 60 and left 2 years ago. I spent nearly 38 years as a Jehovah’s Witnesses and I left still thinking it was the truth but it didn’t take long for me to realize I’d been in a Cult. I’m thankful my husband and family never listened to me as I know I would have been shunned and it’s so sad hearing of the many that experience this. I no longer find myself drawn to any religious organisation I’m just so much happier in my own self! Where I stand now is life is short we need to live it, learn new things and show love and kindness to all people.
@JoanneGarcia-z7g
@JoanneGarcia-z7g 6 күн бұрын
Such a heartfelt video. As a born and raised jw and after leaving in total confusion I was thrown out (disfellowshipped) into a world that really feed my anger towards God and the organization. I’m now a Christian. I know the feeling and anger even disbelief in God but know their entire Bible is altered to the watchtower interpretation. Read the Bible from front to back and learn a whole new God a whole new GRACE that’s been given to us through Jesus. It’s literally mind blowing. Don’t reject God reject religion and doctrines. Know that God LOVED us and were simply saved by accepting Jesus ❤️
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
Amen sister! You need Jesus, JW might have been a cult but one thing they where right about is that this is a fallen world. And the Bible is not lying when it says Satan runs this world and everything in it. May God bless you and may His peace be with you.
@mintygreen40
@mintygreen40 6 күн бұрын
Hey Mark thanks for sharing your story that is so similar in many ways to mine. II left around 40years ago! Things will be hard to begin with but please continue to be your authentic self. 😊
@christinescompassionatecare
@christinescompassionatecare 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your story. I understand how painful deconstructing is. My husband and I both went through it, we were born into the jws. Just always remember that you are allowed to believe what YOU choose to believe. No one should ever try to take away your free will. Your instinct was trying to tell you that control schemes are damaging. JWs are a high control group. It does get easier as time passes. Getting a good therapist that understands religious trauma is helpful. I wish you well on your healing journey 💛
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
thank you this is a really nice comment. i've got a great therapist and it was the best decision i made when i woke up!
@Mercipher21
@Mercipher21 6 күн бұрын
Hey Mark, I was born in 3rd generation JW on both my parent's sides of the family. Deep roots. My wife is 2nd generation born in. I'm 40 now and was baptized at 12. I just started to see cracks a few months ago and watched the Australian Royal Commission and the house of cards started to fall down. The deeper I went the more I found what I frankly didn't want to find. Both my wife & I decided we could no longer support the organization and that there's no way God was leading the org. It's an incredibly difficult thing to accept mentally, and it's a very difficult mental process. We decided to disassociate just earlier this month. (Jan '25) Hang in there, I'm proud of you brother. It's much harder to not keep our heads in the sand. I hope you're transitioning out ok. Much love, reach out of you ever need to. Your brother, -Chris
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@Mercipher21 thank you this means a lot. It’s a really difficult transition and I know I won’t do it perfectly but I’m seeing the light on the other side already and that keeps me going. Thank you for youre comment and the time you took to listen to my story
@eviefriend3976
@eviefriend3976 6 күн бұрын
We did this also . My husband and I wrote letters. It’s been 20 years and now finally feeling better about myself and healing. We now just read the Bible and pray together. It is just enough for us. Everyone is different. We don’t relate to others much . I was suicidal when we left. I forgot about that. It’s tough but not impossible to get through.
@eyeswideopen8570
@eyeswideopen8570 6 күн бұрын
Welcome to your freedom from the cult! I love reading these kind of comments, because it's encouraging to see people are still leaving up to now.
@baldsealion
@baldsealion 6 күн бұрын
Congratulations @Mercipher21 ! It is bittersweet exiting what we once thought was our very reason for existence. 3rd gen almost 40 and left a little over a year ago - thankfully wife after a few months after I woke up began to see the cracks in the teachings for herself when she examined closely, so she is out as well. As betrayed as we have been it is a beautiful thing to hear people begin to trust in themselves again and think for themselves again. It is so sad the level of thought control this high control group inflicts upon those that listen to their leaders.
@Mercipher21
@Mercipher21 6 күн бұрын
@baldsealion That's awesome, I'm glad you both were able to exit together! Let's push on to do great things, and try not too worry to much about the future or what lies beyond our mortality ✊️
@Happiness-gh2dz
@Happiness-gh2dz 3 күн бұрын
Welcome to your freedom! Continue living your life on YOUR terms. I escaped from this cult and it’s the best thing I ever did!
@juliee593
@juliee593 3 күн бұрын
congrats!
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 6 күн бұрын
Congratulations!!!! To your FREEDOM!!! The organization has really destroyed families. The leadership will be held accountable and pay for what they have done.
@chantelgraveling4637
@chantelgraveling4637 5 күн бұрын
My deconstruction process was very similar to yours. I was brought up as a JW, pioneered after high school, had a period where people considered me to be “discouraged”, ended up leaving in 2023 and finally disassociated a couple of weeks ago. In the end, I realised that you need to listen to your intuition. My whole life I was unhappy and if your gut is telling you something is wrong, listen to it. Like you, allowing myself to do the research confirmed my doubts that I had all along.
@Sophia-hj3ko
@Sophia-hj3ko 6 күн бұрын
Your presentation is so clear. It helps me to re-evaluate my entanglement in another denomination, where I wasted decades since tender age. It is hard, if possible, to fully be restored back to the society and the knowledge of all the intricate modern things we need to know in order to succeed in life and to feel present here. Mental health has been impacted by all the group manipulation techniques. It's weird how we don't even notice it, the matrix become our own selves and no one to blame. I am horrified what I've done with the best strongest years of my life and where it took me today. I am getting better but need to see people as yourself to help me to process it and see my own story fully. Thank you! Glad you are so young and all life ahead of you! Best of wishes!
@kerahmoats6640
@kerahmoats6640 6 күн бұрын
This video came up in my recommended this morning, I was so happy to hear your story! You are a remarkable young man, so proud of you to have the courage to share your story. You will help many by doing this. I too watched EXMO stories when I first was waking up, the similarities with EXJW stories is uncanny. Sending healing vibes your way as you navigate your new life of freedom.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
HEY! thanks for watching. I really appreciate your kind words Kerah
@marcioluizoliveira
@marcioluizoliveira 3 күн бұрын
"and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 8:32 God bless you bro!
@SomeKindOfSpy
@SomeKindOfSpy 3 күн бұрын
Why not quote the sections promoting slavery, misogyny, homophobia, and genocide?
@marcioluizoliveira
@marcioluizoliveira 2 күн бұрын
@@SomeKindOfSpy In the Old Testament, the people were still under the old covenant, distant from God. The coming of Jesus Christ changes everything, and we are now under the new covenant. The "Old Testament" regulated slavery among the Israelites. The law even required the liberation of slaves in the seventh year of service. These rules should not be applied to validate modern slavery. Criticizing the Bible by claiming that it supports the practice of slavery is to ignore the historical context in which it was written. In the culture of the time, women were considered to have an inferior role to men, but this also changed with the coming of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ treated women with respect and compassion, recognizing their value and dignity. He opposed the social barriers that prevented relationships between men and women. Violence is present in the Old Testament, and equally present are powerful critiques of violence from different angles. However, "peace" is presented as the main ideal in the Old Testament. When asked about the greatest commandment, Jesus answered: "...Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments." (Matt 22:37-40). In the new covenant, love is preached, not violence. There isn't a single citation in the entire Holy Bible that promotes homophobia, whether in the Old or the New Testament. Immoral sexual practices, including relationships between people of the same sex, have been and are considered sins before God, just like lying, killing, stealing, adultery, and so on... God accepts everyone, but He doesn't accept everything! Jesus Christ came precisely for the sick. Whoever has a real encounter with Jesus abandons their sins, no longer practices them, and receives the eternal life. For a better understanding, it is necessary to read the entire Holy Bible... and you don't need another source, the Bible explains the Bible itself. "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 God bless you!
@LesDempseySoloLesta
@LesDempseySoloLesta 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. I appreciate your candor and your production value. As a XJW of 25+ years, I can tell you that things do get better. You seem very well spoken, and self aware. You have a challenging but rewarding journey ahead.
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 3 күн бұрын
“The unexamined life isn’t worth living” -Socrates. Thanks for making this and being open about your thought process. So many of us can relate (I was raised in the Mormon church) and it’s a tough road to walk. But it’s worth it.
@eyeswideopen8570
@eyeswideopen8570 6 күн бұрын
I love this video, it resonates on some level to all of us who have left, and there are thousands of us out here, if not a million. You know you're in a cult when you have to give yourself permission to do research outside. We all had to do that, which shows you the level of mind control we were under. As you were speaking, I was finishing your sentences, because I know the waking up script so well, both from what was in my own head and from listening to videos of other people who have left. The lies are what finally got me, although I had doubts all along. I'm glad you got out while you are young and have the rest of your life ahead of you. I hope your mom is still speaking to you, and Congratulations on waking up! It's great out here once you make some new friends and learn who you really are without the organization running your life and dictating rules for you to live by.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
thank you, yes theres pretty much a script to waking up and its crazy seeing it repeat over and over. so true
@juliakauffman3639
@juliakauffman3639 3 күн бұрын
Watching videos from ex mormons also helped me understand what I (someone who was never mormon) was feeling and going through. I think that seeing deconstruction and deconversion stories of people who came from different backgrounds can help put our own lives and experiences into view so much clearer. Thank you for sharing your jorney so far. To anyone reading this who is going through doubts and questions, you are not wrong for doubting. Asking questions is the way humans learn and discover truth.
@danost5853
@danost5853 6 күн бұрын
Great video! Thank you for making it! It's interesting that it's when you're asked to teach that any doubts you've been able to ignore suddenly come to the front of your mind. My own experience followed a very similar pattern.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
yeah it explains why i never wanted to conduct a bible study haha
@moto-psycho-one
@moto-psycho-one 3 күн бұрын
Sorry you went through this, I've been through similar. It is painful and relieving, it makes things easier and harder. I'm Impressed by your sincerity and your artful creation here, I expect you to continue to make great things!
@indigoskyholistic
@indigoskyholistic 5 күн бұрын
Welcome to the outside. Take your time to process this time ❤
@lovehatetragedy823
@lovehatetragedy823 6 күн бұрын
This was an excellent video. So many of us can relate to what you are going through. It will be difficult, but you will eventually learn to live your life exactly how you want to.
@fernandoreza9244
@fernandoreza9244 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, 2024 was the year when I decided to step away, these doubts that led me to stop believing made me feel scared and crazy it’s nice to know I’m not alone. I’ve also watched Johnny Harris’ video where he talks about leaving the Mormon church and noticed a lot of similarities.
@christinesotelo7655
@christinesotelo7655 6 күн бұрын
Incredible. Wonderful. Beautifully done documentary, too. I am very glad that you have had the strength, though scary, to involve yourself in research. This was my story too, for me, it was 1975 Armageddon. I lived that fiasco. Different than you, I was disfellowshipped and shunned as an “apostate” and lost family. In the 70’s, there were no podcasts or internet, so I had person-to-person “deprogrammers”. But when they left, I was alone with children, JW husband gone, JW brother gone since I was “as one dead”. So there was no support, just raw life to learn to navigate. Not until just a few years ago did I discover former JW podcasts, and for the first time, I was able to truly grieve and have closure on my lost youth. The healing for me was in writing a book about my JW experience. Now I finally feel free, though I must say that we search for God all our lives. Having learned discernment and critical thinking, I’ve taken many roads on this journey. I am honored to have seen your brave video and look forward to more. God bless you with Peace. ❤
@huaho9213
@huaho9213 5 күн бұрын
I like your story and the background music is so perfect for me.....i am out for 1year and 4 months and .....the reasons and the feelings that made me quit are so similar to yours...thanks for sharing your experience!
@shatteringstar8335
@shatteringstar8335 3 күн бұрын
I grew up in the witnesses but my parents didn't do a good job at teaching me to find evidence that proves me right so I naturally became curious and start to question way earlier than everyone else. Turns out listening to the stuff in schools is great way to not be a witness very quickly. Your story is incredible and keep going.
@anthonytsai4358
@anthonytsai4358 5 күн бұрын
thank you for sharing your experience, I was amormon, and went through similar process. It is liberating to know that we are not alone going though these kind of experience. 👍
@jermangarc
@jermangarc 6 күн бұрын
I think for me and my wife, that's exactly what we had to overcome. The feeling of being alone. I didn't start looking into these types of videos until LONG after we faded. So it's good to know that there are others like us. Now, if we could only meet up and create support groups, now that would be healing!
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
I joined a support group for religious trama called the Reclamation Collective. Its online and is lead by a therapist and helps all sorts of people leaving or dealing with the effects of High Control Religion. Check it out if your interested.
@barneshomestead1240
@barneshomestead1240 5 күн бұрын
@@markrosenthalphotography2310 thanks for sharing
@worldchronicles4818
@worldchronicles4818 5 күн бұрын
Whats with this word faded? Left over lingo from the cult? you mean you left them behind or quit the cult? Don't use the word faded that is cult residue that is stuck in your brain. You quit that false "church".
@jermangarc
@jermangarc 2 күн бұрын
@@worldchronicles4818 ok then, we “gradually” left. We didn’t just quit one day. It happened little by little.
@BigBadBubba32
@BigBadBubba32 6 күн бұрын
As a disfellowshipped Witness for 11 years, (my ex wife and I were intimate before marriage) I can truly say it's for the best to get away from that life. Its very hard, took me a long time to recover and most people don't as I've lost a few good friends due to their mental state and to taking the easy way out. I just started going to church again and found a pastor whose willing to listen on a personal bases and who is truly mindful even though I told him it's going to take me time to adjust. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of good people in that organization but the people at the top are cruel evil men who manipulate peoples vulnerability and should be in prison for psychological manipulation. I support you brother and whatever you make of your life. Be your own person and do what you love without remorse.
@grazynareginia342
@grazynareginia342 5 күн бұрын
Good you not alone, praise The Lord. May Lord give you a strength to get through. Abba, Father can you see his painful heart, pull him closer in Jesus Christ name I ask. You goodness never ends, Thank YOU FATHER
@michaelgalaxy
@michaelgalaxy 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for having the courage to share your story.
@midvidkid
@midvidkid 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Mark. I left SDAism years ago and there’s a lot in common with our experiences. The Lord led us to a Christian community that we could grow spiritually, and trust the Lord will guide you into understanding who He truly is.
@SR-ry6hs
@SR-ry6hs 6 күн бұрын
Great video, and thank you for being strong and being your authentic self. As a former jw I completely understand your journey. Welcome to the community, it is growing bigger everyday. Keep doing that research. I love learning and THAT is what woke me up. Congrats again.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@SR-ry6hs thank you, that’s something that also lead me to wake up was knowing there was a cap on my ability to learn and research
@SR-ry6hs
@SR-ry6hs 6 күн бұрын
@markrosenthalphotography2310 I remember asking my parents when I was a kid. Why does my friend at school, who is a really good person, why would God want to kill them? And they never had a satisfying answer. Take care
@kindforge
@kindforge 6 күн бұрын
Hi Mark, I am happy to have come across your account. I think a lot of the videos I've come across in the past are from people a bit older and your video I resonate with a lot because I'm a similar age. 24 and got out at age 20. I am wishing you well and hoping that you grow to have a beautiful, fulfilling life filled with soft, loving kindness from people who are there to offer genuine, authentic love. ❤
@cultytalk
@cultytalk 6 күн бұрын
Welcome to your REAL LIFE! Thank you for sharing this. It's very encouraging to see the younger generations breaking free from the control.
@marmieRH
@marmieRH 6 күн бұрын
I'm from Québec and when I started searching, I watched Dr Irving Finkel and that was very instructive. So many stories changed in the evolution of men . Now I believe there is a High power but I don't believe in religions anymore. All they want is our money, that's all ! 😊
@lamardavidson6747
@lamardavidson6747 5 күн бұрын
Welcome to freedom! Priceless
@mothleaf_
@mothleaf_ 5 күн бұрын
speaking so convicted and publicly about your findings is hard to do, and very proud of you for doing so. good job dude!! congrats on opening the door
@WaywardAce
@WaywardAce 6 күн бұрын
The second ex JW photography channel, I’ve come across, Nice! I’ve faded. Nice to see you on here. Take care!
@BooBooBugalugs
@BooBooBugalugs 6 күн бұрын
Welcome to our family. I'm so happy that you have broken free, and I hope that your wife and any children that you have, were able to escape with you. If not, remember that the trail you are blazing leaves a light for others to follow. All the best for a bright, happy, and healthy life.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words
@TheIronicRaven
@TheIronicRaven 3 күн бұрын
I am very thankful that you shared your current position in your journey with us! My journey was different in a lot of ways, but it has a lot of similarities as well. That feeling of realization when you finally see through what you believed for so many years is terrifying, and eventually freeing. I'm glad you were able to come to your realization through study and a search for answers, don't get discouraged when people accuse you of taking your journey for any other reason. I hope you can continue your journey and keep giving us details on what you find!
@questionscommentsconcerns
@questionscommentsconcerns 6 күн бұрын
The simultaneous feeling of relief and anxiety is so relatable. I hope the best for you going forward. One of the best things that came out of leaving JWs for me was reconnecting with friends who I’d lost because they weren’t JWs and I’d cut them out of my life. Thanks for your video!
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
Btw your video on you and your wife waking up was huge for me in realizing there were others like me. thank you guys for making that video. It inspired me to help others the same way you helped me, through telling your story.
@questionscommentsconcerns
@questionscommentsconcerns 4 күн бұрын
@ wow, that means to world to us. I’m so glad it helped and that you also want to help others. I’m sure your story has and will touch plenty of hearts.
@magicdolphin3090
@magicdolphin3090 3 күн бұрын
We all support you and your journey. Best of luck healing
@Nosaphira
@Nosaphira 6 күн бұрын
Fourth generation and finally woke up at 58 years old. I was the pain in the butt. The elders couldn’t stand because I knew my Bible and I would ask questions that they couldn’t answer as to why they were doing things the way they were doing them. Where is the scripture reasoning behind it? All of the ridicule and abusiveness and hatefulness I endured since infancy and this Borg finally came to ahead with Tony Morris bragging about people losing their jobs for respecting their conscience on the topic of accepting that mRNA jab. There’s no love in a comment like that. And taking their jobs. He should’ve been commending people for respecting their conscience and instead he was hateful. And then David, Spain, ridiculing people kindly saying would we ever tell you to do something that could hurt you and the answer was yes and they did.so that was the beginning of the end of all these years of trying to find some reason to be around these hateful ridiculing, arrogant people that behaved like Pharisees. It’s not easy, but you will be blessed for getting out of false religion. We are to go to Christ, not a religion.
@eyeswideopen8570
@eyeswideopen8570 6 күн бұрын
100% Great comment
@grazynareginia342
@grazynareginia342 5 күн бұрын
Amen, I'm so proud of you sis, I left Roman - Catholic church after 55 y. The hardest thing was my mum, she died thinking through Mary to Jesus... She spent hours on rosery prayers. May Lord Almighty bless you and you family
@timspencer7067
@timspencer7067 5 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@fnkrodigaz1841
@fnkrodigaz1841 6 сағат бұрын
​@grazynareginia342 I'm an ex JW, now a Catholic. Come back home sister don't leave Jesus and his church. Anything else is a down grade of the fullness of the truth.😢❤️✝️🙏🥖🍷❤️
@beninua
@beninua 3 күн бұрын
I am blown away by this beautiful, honest and inspiring account. I felt all the emotions welling up in me that I had a little more than 25 years ago. I was giving a talk at the convention and as I was giving the talk, I kind of drifted away. I thought I was fainting, but I kind of had some out of body experience where I felt myself giving my talk to the audience like so many times before, but at the same time I shouted at myself in my mind: "You are a liar! You are a liar! ...". A few minutes later my talk was over and I heard the people in the auditorium clapping and I left the podium as the chairman came in to announce the next speaker. When I came out backstage, I was expected to take my seat next to the other speakers giving a talk during the Saturday morning program, and we were expected to remain up there until there was a song or intermission, so we didn't disturb when leaving the backstage area via the door in the side of the platform walking into the auditorium. But I just couldn't sit there for one second longer. I took my briefcase and rushed through the backstage area, and when I came to the stairs leading down to the exit to the auditorium a friendly "brother" who could tell I wasn't alright, grabbed my hand and asked: "Are you alrigt, my friend?", and I said: "I'm fine, but I du think I have a cold coming on", and I rushed down the stairs, and I marched quickly to the wardrobe and grabbed my coat (it was a cold January day), and I went to the parking lot and hurried towards my car on the convention center parking lot. Just when I reached my car but before I got to open the door I threw up on the ground between my car and the one next to mine. I thought - I must be sick - but it felt different. I found a napkin and wiped my mouth and then got into the car and sat down and enjoyed the silence and the cool air. I turned on the engine and waited a few minutes till the rear front- and rear-window heater would melt the ice, and I turned the mirror to look at my face, and when I looked myseif in the eyes, it suddenly dawned on my. I wasn't physically ill. Or at least I didn't have the flu or a cold. What I felt was self loathing. I had just been on a stage lying to thousands and done so knowing very well that I for years had been an atheist. I just couldn't stomach the loss of my family (which was a very prominent JW family in Denmark). I was a 4th gen Jehovah's Witness, and my parent's were summoned to Bethel when I was 19 years old and already when I was a child my father worked regularly at Bethel. My dad was a university professor, teaching math and computer science, and he was part of the international IT-development team, and provided some of the translation software used for translating NWT into several European languages. So my mum and dad and I had often been to Bethel and lived there for a few days while my father worked, and when a new translation of NWT was released we were always invited to a huge banquet at Bethel (the local Branch Office) for the celebration, and my father was giving talks about the technical aspects of translation into languages with diacritical signs in the language, and a lot of other interesting stuff. So we were really at the core of the organisation. But already at the age of 15 I started high school, and my father was allowed quite the leeway by the Branch coordinator (who was a personal friend from his youth), and being a university professor himself (my dad), it was a tough sell to tell me not to go to university. In fact a lot of young people in our congregation pursued an academic career as rumor spread to the entire country that in our congregation the presiding overseer (my dad) encouraged studying at the university, so as one of the very few congregations in the country we hatched plenty of doctors, antropologists, sociologists, mathematicians, engineers, and many more. One even studied religion at the university without anyone lifting an eye brow. But the fact that I was allowed to go to both high school and university, meant that I also took an interest in philosophy, and I actually started a philosophy study group with two teachers and four other students who met every Wednesday evening to discuss various schools of philosophy. (It should be noted that my parents never had a problem with the fact that 90% of my friends were non-JW, that I had from school, high school and university, which of course also made my exit later on much easier). But back to that day. When I sat in the car waiting for it to get warm so I could drive away, I looked at myself in the mirror once again and I said out loud: "You will never again set foot in a Kingdom Hall or a convention center". And I've kept that promise since that day 25+ years ago. When I got back I called the presiding overseer and asked to step down from all privileges (I was the Theocratic School Overseer at the time), and I gave stress as the reason. I stayed away from meetings for 2-3 months, and ignored their calls or didn't open when they came knocking. I knew I had to bring this constant "harassment" to an end, so I contacted two elders, and met with them. They thought I needed some "shepherding", so they were quite shocked when I told them, that I simply wanted to disassociate and that I had been an atheist for years, and that I simply would no longer be a hypocrite, neither to myself or the people in the congregation, of which I still liked a lot. But they asked if nothing could change my mind, and what really ended that discussion was when I said, that even if I could, my conscience simply doesn't allow me to associate with such a destructive and vicious cult as the Watchtower corporation. One of the elders looked like he was going to faint right there and then, but the other at least had the stomach to shake my hand and say: "Well at least you are totally honest and don't beat around the bush. That is the talk of a grown man I hear, and although I disagree I have to at least respect that!" They made sure once more that this was not a spur of the moment decision, and I reassured them that I wanted the announcement read to the entire congregation the first coming meeting. When I left the Kingdom Hall, the two men remained behind, so I just walked to my car. I knew that I had to call my father immediately, as I knew since the gossip travels fast in such a tight knit community, he - sitting in a high position in Bethel - would know early next morning what had happened, and I did want him to hear from myself what was going to happen in two days. He was sad, but he respected that it was my own choice. To his credit he stayed in touch the rest of his life, and he never tried to convince me otherwise. My visit to my parents at Bethel were of course over. My mother didn't want anything to do with me again, but my dad kept in touch and visited when he was out giving talks as a visiting speaker from Bethel in a congregation near where I lived. (I always offered they could stay in my home when visiting a congregation nearby, but my mother wouldn't entertain that idea for a second!) Thank you for this very well produced video. This is one of the most honest and heartfelt "Why I left"-videos I have ever seen. This was wonderful to watch a video that wasn't driven by hate and desire for revenge. This was a beautiful film, and I enjoyed every second. I truly respect your work. Thank you!
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 3 күн бұрын
This is an incredible story, i really feel like you should be able to tell it. Maybe one day we can do an interview?
@olli96r91
@olli96r91 6 күн бұрын
I haven't even watched your video til the end, but I feel a strong urge to tell you that you're not alone! Thank you for being so brave and for telling your story. This is a huge achievement for you personally, but it will also help others who are in a similar situation. I feel like victims of jw are often really sensible human beings. That's why we fell for this whole idea and why it even might have felt good, being around the jw folks. But in the end, this cult can really crush our hearts and for some even more. We MUST stay strong and give everything to enjoy our prescious lives, from the moment we understand that we were part of a cult. Thank you again! I wish you all the best. Greetings from Germany :)
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
thank you, if its one thing ive learned from posting this video its that im not alone. the support has been incredible
@LightoverDarkMinistry
@LightoverDarkMinistry 5 күн бұрын
Remember, only the brave and humble leave.
@prizem2862
@prizem2862 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Its reassuring to see other people who ressonate so deeply with the same experiences as so many of us ex-jws... growing up a JW really fucked me up, but I am doing a lot better now. I am glad you decided to leave at your own time, and I hope you heal as time goes on. There is a lot of good things in this "wicked" world, and the organization is not the best there is. I am so glad I left.
@EugeneSherman-u7u
@EugeneSherman-u7u 2 күн бұрын
@@prizem2862 Your better now? That just crap! Just your language alone shows your far from being a Christian at all! You would have been a lot better, as a JW!
@umaiar
@umaiar 3 күн бұрын
Wow, nicely done video. I've never been a believer myself, but I am involved with a couple online social communities that include some exmo and exjw folks. I think community is probably the biggest loss for many folks, at least after taking the time to heal, to examine new beliefs and boundaries, and all that stuff. I get the impression that you're avoiding the 'A' word, which is totally fine. But there are a lot of us, and we kind of suck at building lasting valuable communities. It's good to see you outside in nature, those are good spaces for clearing your mind and doing some introspection. My advice, I guess as an older guy, is to keep that space. Don't wait for a pandemic to make time to take care of your whole self. Keep exploring, stay conscious of echo chambers, and be honest with yourself. You may not end up where I am, but you'll land in the right spot for you. ✌️
@virginiagirl7014
@virginiagirl7014 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience on leaving the JW’s! It takes a strong person to leave a cult! Never forget that!🥰
@slantblant1
@slantblant1 Күн бұрын
Thanks for providing us with your background, experience, and conclusion. Greetings from St. Louis, MO. I feel at this point, they can no longer default to that line of "Only ones that want to live a debauched life leave or get disfellowshipped". It's clear and obvious from this video that you're a nice, gentle, warm individual. Welcome to the beginning of your new life. I'm 4 years in and couldn't be happier.
@maddog46
@maddog46 6 күн бұрын
You did just fine for now you can really breath. Thanks for getting out and welcome home.
@FourthMan-bp4my
@FourthMan-bp4my 4 күн бұрын
I've never been a JW but I watch these videos to help me understand and be prepared to help others come out of this Cult. Just remember Mark, leaving "the organization" does not mean you left God. Stick with Him my friend.! Such a well-done video!
@collingalanos1783
@collingalanos1783 6 күн бұрын
Your story has so many parallels with my own. If you are crazy, then so am I
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@collingalanos1783 the more story’s I hear the less crazy I feel haha I’m glad my story resonated with you
@collingalanos1783
@collingalanos1783 6 күн бұрын
@@markrosenthalphotography2310 I never married in and I think it made my decision to leave less complicated than it could have been. How did your decision to leave impact your marital situation?
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@collingalanos1783 I could message you directly if that’s ok with you
@collingalanos1783
@collingalanos1783 5 күн бұрын
@ I've attempted to post my email info to you twice now but the message seems to have been deleted both times.
@ashleegoodrich513
@ashleegoodrich513 Күн бұрын
Thank you for speaking out😊 people are waking up.
@urnzwayzmoove
@urnzwayzmoove 6 күн бұрын
Great Video! Due to the organizations view of Jesus, which was despicable... It pushed me to research Christianity. I've come to the conclusion it's a relationship with God. Not a religion or organization or following men. It's real freedom and peace that I'm so happy to have now.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
@@urnzwayzmoove thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to watch it
@joycefinney2735
@joycefinney2735 6 күн бұрын
Why not try reading the bible on your own.Start with John and then Romans. It's all about Jesus, really, and who he really is.May the God that does exist bless you.
@rhondahart2416
@rhondahart2416 5 күн бұрын
Amen
@EugeneSherman-u7u
@EugeneSherman-u7u 5 күн бұрын
Despicable? That's just garbage!
@EugeneSherman-u7u
@EugeneSherman-u7u 5 күн бұрын
​@@joycefinney2735 As if JW don't talk about Jesus , it's crap comments like yours I find to be full of crap!
@mikewhites8348
@mikewhites8348 4 күн бұрын
My young dude congrats for your renewed life. Me, as in your case, was indoctrinated during my teenage years and became active by 31 years, 8 of them serving as an elder. It's so nice that woke up at this point of your life! My 2 sons woke up too, and they are starting to live their young adulthood in a way they feel happy and motivated. My ex-wife is the only one who chose to remain faithful to this organization in spite of all the evidence provided to her. Becoming a "despicable apostate" (in her words), costed me my marriage almost 2 years ago. Your history is powerful and will help a lot to other young people. Greetings from Mexico.
@rfpmcorreia
@rfpmcorreia 6 күн бұрын
Beautiful video and content. When our belief system crumbles, it's scary and challenging. Being true to ourselves is always the right thing to do. Thank you for sharing. It reminded me my journey. Wishing you a very nice life ahead and may your art in photography reach a vast audience.
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 5 күн бұрын
thank you, thats what im looking forward to following my passions to the fullest now
@fwsal23
@fwsal23 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video, Mark. I have so much respect for people like you who actively seek real truth. I'm an ex JW, and I still struggle with being deceived by the organization and the existence of a loving god.
@avrilyang1612
@avrilyang1612 6 күн бұрын
The creator is proud of you .your intuition is correct im 5th generation i left at 37 im now 64 now listen you are not alone.my brain is fried from the trauma still who am I ??? Im finding out it a kaleidoscope of creation us enjoy being free ❤❤❤
@m.weston7114
@m.weston7114 6 күн бұрын
Congrats to your freedom. Please do not succumb to WATCHTOWERS Corporate Bi-Laws and write them a disassociation letter. All you do is follow their demands, Disfellowship yourself and eliminate your freedoms and rights that you retain if you just FADE and do not go back. DO NO empower WATCHTOWER by following any of their demands and procedures. Fading gives you full control and you leave on your terms, NOT WATCHTOWERS.
@v84lunchpahalan90
@v84lunchpahalan90 6 күн бұрын
Well said ! This has come from your heart , you are not alone . Weight is now lifted off your shoulders. Live your life.
@animalmiraclemusic
@animalmiraclemusic 5 күн бұрын
dude you are so brave, I was born into the JW organization and was able to escape when I was 18. thank you so much for sharing your story because people will find it and it'll change their lives! you're never alone and I'm so proud of you for making this video
@SirEcasnoopy
@SirEcasnoopy 6 күн бұрын
Such a beautiful video, in word and visual. Hope much joy and peace on your journey. Take care!
@markrosenthalphotography2310
@markrosenthalphotography2310 6 күн бұрын
thank you so much
@jehu8273
@jehu8273 6 күн бұрын
Danke Dir für deine Gefanken! Ich bin aus der Schweiz und war über 50 Jahre in der Wachturm Blase. Hatte vor 1975 als Kind gepredigt und später kritisiert an bestimmten Lehren. Ich wurde scharf zurechtgewiesen dafür! Es ist eine Gegenseitige Kontrolle der Jworg. Jünger vorhanden. Das macht das Leben so schwer! Seit über 5 Jahren bin ich raus aber leider ist meine Exfrau dabei und die Tochter ist Pionierin. Wünsche Dir alles Liebe und geniesse das Leben ohne die Sekte! Liebe Grüsse❤❤❤❤❤
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