WHY INDIA CHOOSE RAFALE INSTEAD OF MORE SU 30 MKI? TOP 5 FACTS

INTRODUCTION:
Defense updates has received large number of request from the viewers on why India chose to buy Rafale instead of increasing the number of Sukhoi 30 MKI, which is a very capable fighter. It is well known that Sukhoi Su 30MKI ($75 million apiece) costs 1/3 that of Rafale , and India also has got excellent understanding of its operations having used it for sometime now.
In this video , we look at top 5 reasons why India choose to have Rafale instead of having more Sukhoi 30 MKI.
ROLE:
Sukhoi Su 30 MKI is designed for air dominance. Su-30MKI aerodynamic configuration is geared for air to air combat. The design allow for high angle of attack (AoA) flights . The integral aerodynamic configuration combined with thrust vectoring results in extreme maneuverability. It is not that Su-30MKI is not capable of ground attack , but it more of an air fighter.
The Su-30MKI has a range of 3,000 km with internal fuel which ensures a 3.75 hour combat mission. Its air refueling system can increase the flight duration up to 10 hours with a range of 8,000 km. Su-30MKIs can also use the Cobham 754 refueling pods. This means Su 30 MKI can go deep into enemy territories and take the fight to the opposing air force.
The Rafale is referred to as an "omnirole" aircraft by Dassault, its maker. Equipped with a wide range of weapons, the Rafale is intended to perform air supremacy, interdiction, aerial reconnaissance, ground support, in-depth strike, anti-ship strike and nuclear deterrence missions.
One important aspect is that Rafale can be used from carrier aircrafts making it a very versatile fighter.
As viewers may know, MMRC deal in which Rafael won ,stands for Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft. So India’s intention was to acquire a multirole fighter instead of a air dominance fighter which India already has in form of SU 30 MKI.
STEALTH:
Sukhoi 30 MKI is large aircraft and was also not designed with stealth in mind. The size has many benefits , but has a critical disadvantage . It has large RCS of 5. This makes it an easier target when compared to Rafale which has a RCS of 1.
So , in case of operations in regions defended by advanced air defense system with powerful radars, the Rafale is much better aircraft.
FRANCE
France is part of European Union but it does not use Eurofighter Typhoon. France was humiliated in World War 2.
Since then , France has been very particular about building its own defense equipments, be it fighters or submarines. It is also known to have a very independent view about strategic relationships. This is very important, as France can be trusted, that it will not bow to foreign pressures to stop supplies ,if and when India is in a conflict.
India’s experience with France has been good, it has been a a very dependable partner for India.
India has been using Mirage build by Dassault for a long time and it has been a very effective jet for India. From spare parts to repairs , France has stood by India.
RUSSIA
Russia has been the most trusted ally of India. It helped India in 1971 war, when US, UK,Pakistan had tried to defeat india.
Russia has supplied India and continuing to do so, with top of the line defense equipment.
In late 1990s, Russia had transferred technology for Su30 MKI, India's frontline fighter aircraft, which at that time was Russia’s most modern equipment, its most modern plane.
Recently , Russia has agreed to sell india , S 400 the most dreaded air defense system in the world, and is a state of art Russian system.
There is mainly one problem with Russia, that India must not be dependent on a single nation for the military equipment. There is a saying , do not put all your eggs in the same basket. Diversifying of critical equipments is must.
CHINA FACTOR
China , India’s main adversary also uses Sukhoi Flanker variants which it had acquired from Russia . They have even reversed engineered these aircrafts .Though Su 30 MKI is customized by India with Israeli & French sub systems, China have decent idea of this aircraft , specially its aerodynamic capabilities.
In any conflict, this can be very useful from Chinese perspective. Same goes for India.
On the other hand, there is no road map , where Rafale can end into Chinese hand .
This will give India an edge in air combat scenarios.

[@darkwhite4548]

Regarding France yes it’s the least Europe countries affected by American political pressure and by the way Egypt was the first country to owned it, from Egypt 🇪🇬 long Live 🇮🇳

[@gabrielputz5851]

You assholes took us the canal WE built in the desert WE stole from you, but at least you've got good taste in aviation. Btw just joking

[@darkwhite4548]

Gabriel Putz LOL 😂

[@kartikeygupta4075]

Thanks

[@sidyajv]

Dassault is really good company when it comes to fighter jets. Especially their Mirage 2000 is such an exceptional fighter jet.

[@ashtonbailey3970]

Abhijeet Vishwakarma Dassault aircraft’s are good but over prices

[@ashtonbailey3970]

Abhijeet Vishwakarma It’s not a fighter.. it’s a multi role so & is not designed for dog fight but in the hands of a good pilot it can perform well even as a fighter

[@shanu7uday]

what does "incoming..." mean here.....???

[@jakesecreto]

@@ashtonbailey3970 Alright, Rafale is a very good jet, but I'ts so expensive! Gripen E can do almost the same for 1/3 the price...

[@ashtonbailey3970]

Marcellus de Senna Vasques There are similar class so I guess you have a point

[@thieubobo81]

French governement can sell what the US tell them they can sell, yet we love India ! Greetings from France

[@JSBharat_Rajputana]

World must unite against common threats - Terrorism

[@CHANDANSINGH-ke1gy]

@@JSBharat_Rajputana don't think about superficial theory... China and Pakistan can not be good neighborhoods for their neighbors... You can see the history of China and Pakistan after 1949 and 1947

[@FutureTrends]

Wow..The Whole world knows that if Any country want to sell weapons to Other country ..they has to take Permission of US ...😢😢😢

[@tejaspeedliving]

we are already indigenously building our own Jets, thank you.

[@bedouin75]

@@tejaspeedliving idiocy not an excuse for not getting trolled

[@valkoharja]

The reliability of Rafale's Snecma engines is also far superior to the ones on the Sukhoi.

[@namibiadgc75agmail.comdora91]

🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@valkoharja]

@Ouija1210 seriously? Russian engines more reliable than those on the Rafale? That's genuinely very funny. ^.^

[@namibiadgc75agmail.comdora91]

@Conan lol in ur dreams

[@valkoharja]

@Conan or British or French ones.

[@glynnwadeson5605]

Isn’t there an issue with serviceability of Rafale? I thought I read that the government expressed concern about the low availability rates

[@alg2990]

French disagreed with Russia operations in Ukrain, as they disagreed with USA operations in Iraq. George Bush couldn't do anything to make the French shut up, and when France cancelled the contract of selling 2 warships to Russia, Putin couldn't do anything against it. Say whatever you want, but French have more balls and independance than many other countries.

[@novelaviator]

Alpha Grisby I want India to head the same way

[@jobobyoo7297]

Alpha Grisby yeeeeaaaah!👍👍👍👍👍👍👋✌✌✌

[@sylvainduret9880]

We have ballguettes

[@usaisthebestiockdownpoiice816]

i like young french girls. they are cute

[@ihatecabbage7270]

Well the Scorpene submarines that can't submerge tells a lot of the quality of their military hardware.

[@thespokesman5345]

Answer is so simple, Dassault Rafale is the best multi role fighter aircraft for this moment. Well done India.

[@JoeSerpa]

Yeah, Rafale is much superior to any Russian flyuing Lada, doesn't mater did they call them Suhoj or MIG or what ever. Rafale is much better.

[@anthonyortiz264]

Then comes the issue of affording a squad let alone a fleet of rafale and the rafale doesn't have the manuevrabality of sukhois

[@JoeSerpa]

Karl Marx "Rafale don't have manuevrabality of sukhois"? Rafale have best manuevrabality from all jet fighters, you dunkey. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqW4hXZ4f5WVgNE

[@stormrider7859]

when donkey flies

[@johnnymigouel7228]

You support PSG but your right XD

[@user-fx2oo3bi9c]

French Dassult provide better services than Russia sukhoi did. Su 30mki heavy fighter (can carry one bhramos-A and 5 bhramosNG) Rafale multirole fighter (3 bhramosNG)

[@user-xj9lp3fs7m]

How exactly did the dassault rafale provide better service than the su30?

[@pietristephane3537]

@@user-xj9lp3fs7m It seems Dassault has a bigger-more careful costumer support service.

[@user-xj9lp3fs7m]

Ah i see

[@rodriegogarzado7569]

@Heiwajima Shizuo No, Russias defence budget is 69 billions, india's defence budget is 57 billion

[@rodriegogarzado7569]

@Heiwajima Shizuo 2 years back, now is 69bill, while russia spends 70bill, close but not enough

[@camembertdalembert6323]

so many jealous people who hates the french in the comments, with the traditionnal french bashing, so stereotypical, so ridiculous...

[@wypipo6044]

afrance

[@gunjansarkar5416]

Oh no no... Loads of respect for the French army!!! Loads!

[@MihalisNavara]

Parislam...

[@ganeshnayak2732]

Raphael D, France is a shithole go have a look around and enjoy the shit, bastard

[@MultiJunkie101]

France has been one of the very few trustable friends of us Indians.

[@BaljinderSingh-cn1rt]

Time for india to build more indegenously developed aircrafts.

[@vijaypanchal7593]

Baljinder Singh lol

[@Wanenbok]

We have the Tejas now

[@jaszthebest]

AMCA dude AMCA 😁✌️❤️🇮🇳❤️

[@jimcasper12]

Gandhi family ‘s son in law Robert Vadera ‘s business will suffer if India builds its own. That is why they planted their Scientist friend ‘s at DRDO to delay projects.

[@thebenson999]

Baljinder Singh our r&d budget is very small, cant build anything without budget

[@ashishnhavalde]

Sukhoi equipped with Brahmos will be first fighter aircraft in world to carry supersonic missile on it.

[@SuperGeronimo999]

First of all, the Sukhoi SU-30MKI isn't specifically a fighter aircraft... and second of all, chinese JH-7 and J-10 carried supersonic missiles before.

[@ashishnhavalde]

SuperGeronimo999 Brahmos range is approx 300 KM. Do Chinese supersonic missile on aircraft had that range.

[@SuperGeronimo999]

Ashish Nhavalde What does the range have to do with it, being supersonic? And yes, up to 400km. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12

[@ashishnhavalde]

SuperGeronimo999 su 30 mki is a fighter aircraft for air to air combat. Name the Chinese supersonic missile which Chinese fighter jets carried. Because supersonic sonic missiles are to heavy to carry, brahmos weight is about 3000kg. It is very difficult for an aircraft to carry such weight. Only long aircraft like sukhoi can carry brahmos.

[@SuperGeronimo999]

Ashish Nhavalde No, the F-22 would be a fighter, the Su-30MKI is multirole. And i've just linked the chinese missile above. YJ-12 weighs 2500kg. The J-10 can carry 7000kg, and China also has Su-30MKK & Su-30MK2, along with the J-15, which is a chinese Su-33 for use on aircraft carriers.

[@sureshkannoli9277]

Thanks for the nice video updating 🙏👌

[@Haumanga32]

One of the best channel i've ever subcribe..Your point of view even your analytical is very trustworthy and informative like other channels.

[@Dante-cq2zo]

The truth is that the Rafale is more reliable than the SU-30 which experienced many technical issues these past years. www.hindustantimes.com/india/india-plays-safe-grounds-entire-sukhoi-30-fleet/story-IbPNItzI5373FOEUuaQHfL.html www.hindustantimes.com/india/su-30-fleet-plagued-by-engine-woes-poor-serviceability/story-CUNvrCuhWdK0w4J6jVecIK.html It has also impressed the india defense department during Garuda V exercice in 2014 and 2015 where the Rafale did the job extremely well against India's Su30 MKi

[@thecreator9913]

Indo Russo strong 💪... Indo Franco also strong 💪

[@ashtonbailey3970]

Thë Creatör 99 If you are so strong, dont talk, act! Go liberate Ladakh!

[@thecreator9913]

@@ashtonbailey3970 shoo!

[@Torq09]

@@ashtonbailey3970 yeh suar ko kisine khola...

[@KatariaGujjar]

@@Torq09 Teri ma ne

[@KatariaGujjar]

@Lawda Ka Baal Very nice tea with Mughlai domination

[@AnilSingh-ls1wp]

Very helpful..thanks!!!

[@febinjohn4541]

Love u Russia ❤️🔥love u France ❤️🔥from india ..🇮🇳❤️🔥

[@MSM5500]

If you love rusia you will love Novichok too.

[@Theparadox14]

Most important reason is Rafale's nuclear capabilities. We have mirage 2000 & jaguar for this which are too old and Su-30mki is not made for nuclear strikes but still equipping BrahMos-A to it. One more reason is that Rafale serviceability is 80%-90% while Su-30mki have 60%-70% so basically remaining jets can't be used in case of war. Basically we are getting better range, stealthy jet, with meteor missiles, multi-role nuclear capable jet which is perfect for our requirement for time being.

[@youbdu2981]

Dassault don't give rafale for nuclear bombing so India don't have the capabilities to modified rafale

[@Theparadox14]

youbdu29 Lol pointing that to a nuclear triad bit childish. France gave us mirage 2000 way back and we made it nuclear capable ourselves. France is replacing their old Mirage 2000N with Rafales for nuclear strikes and we are doing the same. They will not deliver any nuclear capability to us but we are going to modify it for nukes ourselves. And we are working on Nirbhay & BrahMos-NG too. nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-india-wants-frances-dassault-rafale-fighter-jets-they-17777

[@Conserpov]

_> One more reason is that Rafale serviceability is 80%-90%_ Bullshit. It's below 50%.

[@clavier2560]

You buy the Rafale ....you do what you want with it .....

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

But Russia is offering Su 35, not SU 30.

[@knowledgeseeker9688]

1.Specialize one of our iits for defence needs. 2. Put some money into research. 3. Take our indigenous tech and build on it . 4. Make some cheap yet capable multipurpose fighters . And bang india is self sufficient in defence production. Surely we need to replicate isro's success by drdo . jai hind

[@harekrishnaacharya2844]

"cheap yet capable" - not possible. titanium is not cheap. titanium machining is not cheap - requires both non-cheap machines and non-cheap manpower. 2 (iron)+2(lower skilled manpower)=4(cheap?). 20(titanium)+20(higher skilled manpower)=40 (costly?).

[@vivekbuddhi5829]

Very crisp and apt video based on right technical aspects unlike other masala videos on defense theories.

[@mikaellaine9490]

The plural of aircraft is aircraft... next time you should say "They have even reverse engineered these aircraft", not "They have even reversed engineered these aircrafts"

[@zlatas359]

they chose rafale simply because indian constitutional law says that india MUST NOT rely on single weapons manfucatruer... whilst india already has fleets of MiG29, Su27, Su30 etc..... they are not allowed to only have systems provided by single country in case of dependence on that country for its military hardware... even birds know that Su30 MKI is vastly superior to anything French make...

[@suraj-op2bx]

Zlata S wtf😂 if tht would have been case we could buy F-18 ,Gripen too ..

[@themax9913]

Zlata S yeah that why India hardware is mostly French and Russian , French jets are among the best in the world and most of thoses wrecked Russian made jets . The mirage F1 were nightmares for F14 during Irak war and they outperformed Migs in most wars . The rafale is a beast that nothing can take down easily . It is suitable for interception , recon, bombing , nuclear bombing , electronic warfare, ground attack, etc...

[@imperials1412]

We already have more than 200 su 30 ! We need a verity of weapons

[@gurmukhsingh1938]

Your videos are really good.... I like all your video . Now I want to ask you make a video on S400 procurement and the ban of drones by USA to India

[@abhishekabhiable]

Amazing analysis. Thanks

[@prasoonkumarroy7432]

Dear uploader i deeply appreciate your hardwork behind this video. However the narration seems to cause irritation. Please don't use fake voice.

[@DefenseUpdates]

+Prasoon kumar Hi , ur concern is noted. Since the channel is very small its not possible to hire voice over specilists or have a recording studio

[@Phrancis5]

I've used artificial text to speech narration for many years and you can vastly improve the output by writing your text to be more "conversational", adding more commas (pauses) where a real human would have to breath, and phonetically spelling things out. The narration says "sue thirty" instead of "S.U. thirty".

[@emmanuelcardoza7723]

The speaker is obviously Indian with an Indian accent....

[@Phrancis5]

Emmanuel Cardoza No it's not human. You can pick synthetic narration that speaks English with different accents. For years I used one with a British accent for an American audience because it disguised some of the weird pronunciations.

[@2hourtherapy943]

Is your voice that bad that your considering to hire someone?

[@robeenvishal5528]

The name itself is intimidating!!to make enemy flew away.you dont need to fight!

[@leneanderthalien]

In french means Rafale 2 things: burst fire and wind gust: both are perfect applicable to this fighter...

[@Ind5911]

Yes...a big day for India.Great !

[@jakesecreto]

Forgot about one point: Rafale got some good stuff about nuclear warfare. It could be a topic by itself, since China is a nuclear superpower.

[@NapoleonGelignite]

As a Brit I have to say the Rafale is a superb aircraft. Well done France for producing such a capable and beautiful plane.

[@MyApollo11]

You really dont need these machines in war. All you need is AK47 and 20 million Indians with unlimited ammo.

[@ManojSharma-zs9md]

yeah I liked that Idea...but ..10 million not going to coming back in any case...

[@k_entertainer01]

@@suraj-op2bx chutiyas 😂😂

[@HARSHADtp]

@@suraj-op2bx mandan maar

[@priyanshsahay3573]

@@suraj-op2bx Many Muslims support India but people like you divide India!

[@VivekSharmavsorma]

This fact was not known to me as to why Rafale was chosen when Su30MKI was already present. Also the terminology MMRCA was cleared. Thanks.

[@vmvcool601]

Nicely presented.hats off..

[@bo2web]

KZbinrs here are not fighter pilotes, HQ military personnal, etc... IAF don't need your advive too choose their plane strategy

[@rubabatif8405]

Yeah they will pick some more 😁 insert when they faces the falcons of Pakistan ..... Pakistan zindabad pak army zindabad

[@aruns8342]

Lol Haha

[@aadilsaiyed294]

@Clark Kent lmao best reply

[@bhaiyuat]

Please remove this computerised voice and introduce a more interactive human

[@ashwanishahrawat4607]

Thanks :)

[@BrokeDownBob]

India needs to develop their own defense industry. Build their own aircraft, Only then can they depend on available aircraft and ships.

[@arvindsinghoberoi6320]

Russia is our most trusted partner at all times, but we must have diversified technologies at our disposal as we are facing threat from two of our neighbors. Both have joined hands against us, but we must always maintain good relationship with Russia always.

[@theartificialsociety3373]

That's amazing that US favored Pakistan. Pakistan seems to be a very scary country that continues to destabilize Afghanistan, protected Osama Bin Ladin, has a master plan to try to grab Kashmir. When are we going to hear anything good about Pakistan? Are tourists safe there?

[@bingobingo6169]

The Artificial Society USA makes friend with whoever supports terrorism. and Pakistan is not an exception.

[@theartificialsociety3373]

Nima Ebi well, USA has long history both good and bad things. USA has had some terrible presidents like George W. Bush. And Obama has not been very good either.

[@bingobingo6169]

The Artificial Society I don't think it's about the presidents of the US but it's the criminal establishment running the US and those who try going against it would be eliminated. have you heard about president JFK or Richard Nixon(he was so lucky that he just lost his job?

[@alduarte8242]

The Artificial Society True and all trash candidates for president?!

[@varunreddy9578]

when osama was dead hillary asked will its ruler will u say to world and ur people u killed him,then he feared and said i dont want any trouble admitting it, it should tell u how much people support terrrorists in pakistan

[@vasmr5659]

Oh, good information

[@vishnuacharya6352]

Superbly informative in all aspects. Tks!

[@MarkMark-ji6ts]

LOL are you kidding me the French gave the British the codes to disable the Exocet missiles in the Falklands war. Trusted my ass.

[@Wottan007]

@ Mark mark : If the French gave the codes to the Brits (?) why 2 U.K frigates ( HMS Sheffield and another one ) were sunk by French exocets launched by Argentine Air Force French make Mirage aircrafts ?

[@MarkMark-ji6ts]

Because the Brits went crying to the French after the first warships got sunk. After that they were safe.

[@Wottan007]

" The Brits went crying to the French " ? Look am French and the two neighbor nations are quarreling and fighting for some 1000 years , they are the "best enemies" and "worse friends" of each other in Europe if not in the world . Really I do not see the British pride bowing to the French and I do not see the French malice condescending to betray their Argentinian clients to save the face of the Brits. In as much as, at that time, Thatcher was ruling UK and Mitterrand ruling France and they could not stand each other...What I think is that MI5 (great respect for them ! ) which has "dormant agents" in the French military complex and in the political sphere had the means (blackmail ? money ? exchange of paramount information ?) to get the necessary technical information. In any case, I do not see the Brits "crying"...since they have no tears when they fight !

[@kennztube]

Mark Mark crying? When ships are hit people die.

[@nicolasdrancourt8370]

Nope, the argentine air force only has a few AM39 Exocets (3 or 5) before the conflict start and the french engineers were still in Buenos Aires, helping AAF in installing the missiles on super etendart. Nevertheless, it's true that after the outbreak of Flaklands war started, the french governement embargoed the missiles, at they were able to cause a serious threat to the british task forces. The Argentinian tried to bought some on black market, but the british secret service prevented them from doing that. The disabling code is just a legend.

[@enimey2724]

We want rafel also 💪

[@clevelandcampbell1228]

Wish India well. Hope they never have use them in war. India has crazy neighbors. God bless India may they have peace.

[@carnage3343]

Thanks☺️

[@Dominikmj]

In fact, there was a competition between F-16, Saab Gripen, Mig-35, Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale and F/A-18 (most probably all fighters in the latest block). The first step was a theoretic very detailed and intense evaluation - and only two planes were chosen to enter practical flight tests: Rafale and Typhoon. In those tests the Typhoon dominated all tests and was the first choice of the IAF. However the cost per muster plus the cost for the infrastructure (India already uses Dassault fighter jets, which have similar infrastructure to the Rafale), let the defense ministry choose the Dassault Rafale as far more cost effective option. Why they didn’t chose the Mig (which would have been definitely cheaper at probably the same or higher performance? • Dependency on Russia (they don’t want to have all eggs in one basket) - I don’t necessary think, that this is a very valid reason, as they have other areas, which they are pretty much full Russian. • Mig-35 hasn’t been fully developed at times of the competition. • There were a far increased accident rate of Su-30 MKI’s - they might have doubted Russian reliability. • Consistency of performance: Russian planes are all about top line performance - but real life performance is often far below the average. • Russian avionics seem to be quite behind the American and European competition (e.g. despite the fact, that Russia announced a decade ago, to update to AESA radar, they still didn’t deployed it in any variant. This is only one example, which shows, how technological advanced they really are - obviously this is contrary to their propaganda).

[@shahzadmanc]

You still can’t beat PAF as they have very professional pilots no hard feelings.

[@nagaprathyush]

Professional pilots who get lynched by their own countrymen.

[@rahulramakrishnan5044]

Yes professional pilot......... Professional donkeys they are......even if they get an F-16 results are before you....

[@avinashprabhu2811]

Let them cross loc we will see who is more professional

[@shahzadmanc]

You wait and and see what we are war is round the corner and we are waiting for that by Hazwaey hind round the corner

[@fatgirlboy9341]

France dependable ? It cancelled the sale of carrier to Russia.

[@Tagadarealty]

True, but its a choice make by french & EU citizens (popular opinion in fact). And this fact has arranged russia, he have take all he want in this contract (Software and configuration of ship) without take a ship with their escort. You can now see the military budget of russia decrease by 30% since some days, so how you can have 2 big ship with an escort when you can not pay for escort and use ? Russia is winner! But i'm french and i think that we really should honor that contract, and in fact this sale is not legal.

[@chris681975]

John Law that what happens when putin gets wee man syndrome and thought he could shoot down a passenger plane and get away with it russia gets no new shit now but in his head its everyone elses fault wee man syndrome

[@Tagadarealty]

Vu la qualité de ton texte je me doute que ton niveau de réflexion n'est certainement pas au niveau nécessaire pour comprendre les gains et perte que la Russie a eue ni pourquoi la France aurait dû honorer ce contrat, ce n'est pas une simple histoire de bloc est/ouest ou capitalismocommuniste. Cultives toi un peu avant d'attaquer les autres, tu n'es même pas capable de juger qui lèche les couilles ou pas. Pathétique

[@pompelop67]

Tagadarealty lol ; espèce de cloporte !! Tu veux prendre la mouche , tu n'es même pas capable de donner un exemple ! Ce contrat de msitral , signer sous la présidence du nain ,fut une énorme erreur stratégique !! La russie reste un pays gouverné par un petit fou en mal de la grande novorossia ! La russie n'est pas , à ce jour, capable de pouvoir créer ce genre de batiment car elle n'a pas la capcaicté technique ( portuaire ) pour l'entreprendre !! mais je perd mon tempsavec toi , on ne peut pas faire boir un âne qui n'a pas soif !! salut cloporte

[@Tagadarealty]

Je te conseil de te renseigner sur le chantier naval situé en Crimée notamment pour comprendre un peu l'importance de cette annexion. Sachant qu'il n'est pas unique en Russie, ils disposent bel et bien des infrastructures nécessaire a la construction de navire a gros volume et gros tonnage, ceci dit c'est vrai qu'aucun n'a l'expérience nécessaire pour construire du jour au lendemain un BPC ou un CV. Mais les travaux de conformité Russe faites sur les BPC leurs ont permis d'acquérir certains savoir qui faciliterait la création d'un projet de BPC, quand bien même ils n'en ont pas les moyens aujourd'hui. Ce n'était absolument pas une erreur stratégique, se rapprocher de la Russie est un très bon point militairement parlant. Tu parles d'exemple mais a part le mot cloporte je ne vois rien de constructif dans ta réponse. Je te conseil de lire un petit livre écrit par un certains Clausewitz, il aborde quelques notions intéressante dans le contexte mondiale actuel.

[@richardkroll1464]

Nice report, Comrade.

[@maxschmidt1787]

13/07/17: Today i read in the german newspapers that France and Germany are going to develop together a new jetfighter, also a tank and multiple other military stuff.

[@vivekslogic]

France, Israel, Japan and Russia can be trusted.. I believe...

[@shawnawasthi]

we should not be dependent on anyone

[@vivekslogic]

I agree.... this is the reason DRDO was reorganized.... Parrikar set a target of $2 billion as income from defence.... still a nation should have its allies... India adopted a policy of no permanent friends and no permanent enemies since independence... this should be changed

[@shawnawasthi]

vivek tamma i thought it was 4 Bn $

[@geniusO2]

you mean which ?

[@IrfanAhmed-tn9rw]

vivek tamma sab kutay kay bachay ha tum harmmi ho

[@misterbean5308]

India must continue devolop its own fighter program so it no need to depend on foreign jets.

[@leneanderthalien]

This is not so easy: a fighter jet need top technology and a deep experience in all domains, so for ex. China made some own fighters (who looks more like "copies from"), but use Russian designed engines because they was unable to make the engines, same thing for helicopters: in the 80' they did copies from french helis, but was unable to make the engines despite reverse technology: such thing need a very experienced design bureau, not forgot that France did work on jet engines (first ram jets , and double flow turbo jets (Rateau SRA1) in 1939) size the debut of the last century, and begin experiences in delta wing aircrafts 90 years ago, was only heawy retarded from WW2...

[@oscarwalton1188]

That's easier said than done it can be insanely exspensive and will take years

[@misterbean5308]

@Marcos B indian tejas still using US engines.

[@misterbean5308]

@Marcos B engine is a major component imported and indians still have not mastered its technology..

[@misterbean5308]

@Marcos B you said indian tejas will produced with local components but tejas is still flying with US engines, israeli cock pit controls and russian missiles...where are the indian replacements?

[@fredferd965]

This is a very perceptive and well thought out explanation! Very well done! However, I am somewhat troubled by the statement that France will stand by its allies in all conditions. Please remember that the blocked the Israel and did not give them the aircraft they had payed for, when they bowed to arab oil pressures. As far as putting all of your eggs into one basket - that I agree with. The proper answer, though it is expensive, is that India must eventually design and build competitive aircraft of their own - top line 5th and 6th generation fighters. The Tejas is a beginning, but only a beginning.

[@michaelbetsch4368]

good thinking very sound approach

[@vansec5076]

3:45 #2 - Very independent view.... not bow to foreign pressures... 2014-2015 France bowed to foreign pressure from - POLAND. One of the point of pressure was the Polish deals on submarines and naval helicopters that the Poles had pending with the French, and threatened to cancel their orders if the French deliver on the contract they had with Russia. To provide the two carriers (build and completed by French), and allow Russia to build two more under license. Then the Poles still ditched the French. Getting the subs from Sweden, and copters from USA.

[@kugspartan7709]

Van Sec false. There is nothing to do with the 2 mistrals. The poles bought u.s. weapons instead of europeans weapons. And the problem is that they get a lot of money from the european union. That was the problem.

[@Ka9radio_Mobile9]

The robot English is not very good. Please use a real person. Give a person who has journalistic skills and put them to work. Thank you.

[@13181815]

Excellent simple naration...

[@sudhendugupte4060]

Very good. Information.

[@adityapathania3618]

And yess we defeated typhoon 15-0 using su 30mki .. in q competition

[@geetunknown3037]

Bro app mujhe iss competition ke bare main bta ya koi link de skte hai ye kb hota hai?

[@adityapathania3618]

@@geetunknown3037 search kro exact video nahi milta khi bhi but competition hote rhte hn . Like bahrain air show and all .vese hi net p mil jaega

[@geetunknown3037]

👌

[@user-xj9lp3fs7m]

Umm u know the rafale is better than the typhoon on dogfights, right?

[@adityapathania3618]

@@user-xj9lp3fs7m these are not meant for dog fights first of all and secondly it depends on terrain and skill , and thirdly suk30mki defeated typhoon that is what i mentioned

[@spppsydney]

France will not bow down to international pressure? What happened to the helicopter carrier that was sold then withdrawn from Russia ?

[@Dimetropteryx]

France did the right thing.

[@deomalipradeep]

Quite a good one.

[@HimanshuSingh-xd5cg]

Really like the video... Although watching it in 2020

[@reaganalkonzo8]

Go ahead India! ⚔️❤🇮🇳❤⚔️

[@mackbeck6814]

Su30 require mid-air tow trucks too often. Russian quality, well that is an oxymoron.

[@jyotindramody9591]

Russia is a common supplier of arms and weapons both to India and its adversary China. Now India's policy for defence equipment purchase must be Russia + 4 others namely France, Israel,. USA and Britain.

[@saurabhchaudhary9439]

Very nice appreciable

[@billysplinterbillysplinter7348]

France won’t bow to foreign pressure? 😂They chose not to complete sale of the 2 mistral class ships because of pressure from USA.

[@Poun-isher]

Not USA but Europe... Because at this time Ukraine want to enter in Europe what E.U want too but they want to enter in Europe with all the state and that mean the Crimé too but the Crimé is more Russian than Ukrainian so they vote to be rattached to Russia and Ukraine was against it. Russia declare the war to Ukraine... Nothing to do with USA. And don't worry, French government and French citizen think in really different way. As a French person I was completely disagree with this decision to not delivery the two war boat to Russia. Because if we can sale weapon and war jet to South Arabia or Quatar we can sale anything to any country without feeling guilty.

[@masterofpuppets7295]

In other words the su 30 to 35 can dance in the sky at air shows but in war time its severly lacking

[@ravikiranguptam1920]

Great Video

[@Misha2010Tube]

Reasons #5 and #4 could play some role in the decision of India government. The reason #3 is completely wrong: remember what "independent" France did to Iraqi's French-made air defense systems in 1991. The #2 is actually against Rafale, whereas the reason #1 is completely irrelevant to the matter. IMHO, the most likely and the only real reason to prefer Rafales over SU-30 is more generous kick-backs from French to India officials.

[@lotusesprit68]

men open you eyes, the Rafale is better in air and ground superiority, more manuverable at high and low speed, can carry more bombs and missiles, can land on a aircraft career and took a minimum of space, have clearly the best technologies by far, and can carry a nuclear bomb. but of course, French quality have a price. and the major reason why they have not buy the su-30 is because they remember how the russian engennering is a disaster. you can ask to every air force of the old communist country or the one who already have Russian tanks, planes, etc... that this is maybe cheap, but awful in reliability. i swear ask to every of theses country who ever had russian equipement, and everyone gonna say "never again" Russian and American technologies have always been exeeded by French/British/German technologies. And France is not more "friend" whit India than Russia, thats bullshit. This is all about quality !

[@BlunderCity]

_"#3 is completely wrong: remember what "independent" France did to Iraqi's French-made air defense systems in 1991."_ Are you seriously comparing Saddam's Iraq to India? I think Iraq was a serious outlier, anything was possible.

[@chlore2amine]

in 1991 France was involved in that war., for sure they didn't want their planes shot down by the systems they sold.

[@yoski203]

#3 doesn't make sense, because France hasn't delivered the 2 minstrel ships to Russia that it promised over the Ukraine deal. So Id say, if India gets out of step with the western powers, it might be the same story as like Iran and their F-14's

[@ayushkumar-bg1xf]

dude you don't know relationship between India and France .go check how French never blocked India nuclear program .French were reason why NATO never went against India in spite of fact India was biggest ally of soviets .please stop jumping with half knowledge

[@ayushkumar-bg1xf]

French stood by Indian always even when Brits and American came to attack India in 1971 war .

[@shawnawasthi]

current and future relation between countries and geopolitical scenario is also a factor.

[@yoski203]

Amazing India exactly, French arent worth their word.. its just an economic deal for now to make money. Russian Minstrel ships show that

[@Niidea1986]

Yo ski France did not back of when selling Mirage to Peru despite USA demanded only them could sell weapons in America, basically they destroyed USA's american monopoly in Latin America by themselves. Also France did not stop selling missiles to Argentina when they were at war with UK. Also France vetoed USA resolution to invade Iraq (which really pissed of USA). And before the Ukraine crisis, it was the western country most willing to work with Russia at developing new systems...if there is a country owner of western technology that is know for following it's own interests in international affairs, that is France...now, if Russia wants to fuck with NATO and starts invading european countries don't come to cry over the internet about how France won't give them a shit now.

[@MrPoornakumar]

Excellent analysis. Now I know why IAF is almost invincible with capability of Air dominance. Yet, stealth is a worry when flying Su30 MKI. Problem can be circumvented by sending Rafale first to soften the enemy air defence (Radars on ground) followed by Su30 MKI.

[@chandanchandra4819]

Very nicely explained

[@myazleoful]

*_It's not about fighter aircraft it's all about money talk india has paid much higher price compare to qatar next upcoming bollywood movies_*

[@morningstar7845]

Put one thing in your brain whenever India purchases any aircraft it is always a modified version with India's requirements not the common platform. Its Su30MKI is highly modified with Indian, Israeli and French sub systems.

[@vincentgnanaraj]

Just mig21 is enuf for us to strike pak lol. We will use rafale for future use.

[@MrCarz95]

Yes keep sending them they all need scraping

[@priyanshsahay3573]

@@MrCarz95 Yes, like your shot down f16 that Pakistan isn't ready to admit got shot down by a 60 year old plane and killed their own pilot

[@ponnarajashekhar760]

India requires multi tech for it's defence .👍

[@deepplusyou3318]

Thanks

[@Indiancrab]

Viva la France. J'aim les équipe de France.

[@thetruthhurts4054]

Because india has something called common sense.

[@scorpion7227]

Really ? So when will the common sense be brought into use for your toilets ?

[@scorpion7227]

@Svdikar Why not ? The whole world has for it's population and that's a standard common sense right ?

[@scorpion7227]

@@anchalsharma1542 LOL...obsessed ? me ? dude, your government has exuded out a concept of toilets that HAS obsessed your people, lurking them into confusion, to use toilets OR back to their norms that is dinning holes and excreting. Simple.

[@scorpion7227]

@lol bast Well atleast the common sense says to use water wiping up asses in privacy and NOT in public right ? That's the common sense my friend. As for the wipes/toilet-papers, they ARE used in toilets. So get your common sense up right dude.

[@nilabhs4681]

@@scorpion7227 our toilet got separated in 1947😢😭😭😭

[@SantoshKumar-ds8cs]

Good information

[@kadirimaheswararao5151]

Good statement.

[@Polestar828]

modi got this as urgent might think thank found Pakistan might destabilise in few years and any new insane general will adventure nukes over India and Rafael could only destroy nuclear installations jai hind

[@burnyt3077]

Be real if india or Pakistan launch 1 nuke both countries will be gone forever

[@Pa-1]

@@burnyt3077 - Don't worry India will never launch a nuke against any nation no matter what... That is why some people try to threaten India so much - they are very confident that India won't go to that extreme....

[@Pa-1]

There are other aircrafts and missiles designed to do that... They can intercept the nuke warhead midair and stuff... Rafael has its own purpose other than that....

[@ashtonbailey3970]

muraledhar nadar Stupid dreamer!!! Love Pakistan from United Kingdom 🇬🇧

[@chiranthanmr]

"Barsket"😂😂😂

[@andrewlambert7246]

I have read so many different figures on SU 30 mki RDS that dont know what to think. The RDS can however be corrected by coating canopty and aircraft with radar absorbing material which India has. This combined with its large radar will makes it very dangerous.

[@maanyashukla370]

Simple. Different fighters. Different capabilities. Versatility is a good thing.

[@john10101010022235]

then what about make in india ?? What will happen when we have a war with France ?

[@maanyashukla370]

@@john10101010022235 why will we have a war with France? Even if we do, we are not capable of fighting a war like that. We have 2 functional carriers right now. The only scenario we fight a war in with France will be if France somehow felt it needs to invade India. And why would it do that? Nostalgia for Pondicherry?

[@Kevin-yh8ol]

*"Why do French tanks have REAR VIEW MIRRORS?"* *So that they can see the front line too* 😂

[@leopoldleclere917]

Kevin Arnold «hahaha»

[@guillaumeromain6694]

Kevin one French developed Rafale can destroy your shithole country in one pass. Fuck you very much

[@jcalhoun7501]

So India is going to trust France to continue arms sales in the case of Indian participation in armed conflict? France is an EU member state and a signatory to the arms trade treaty. India should stock up on munitions well in advance of any fighting.

[@shawnawasthi]

u think india could have any conflict with EU?

[@dirtypure2023]

J Calhoun I don't think he meant conflict with a member of EU. My understanding is that if India were to enter into conflict with _any_ country (let's say China, hypothetically), then EU member states could convene with the intent to pressure France into ceasing their sale of arms to India. In such a scenario, France could be hit with fines or sanctions for refusing to stop the flow of weapons, as they would be seen as a direct contributor to the conflict. Most countries want to maintain a good reputation a relationship with major allies, and if France puts that priority ahead of their deal with India, that puts India in a difficult position. Something like that.

[@shawnawasthi]

***** good point.maybe that's why india's one major group has started defense-industrial partnership with Dassault Aviation.primarily it's for sub-assemblies but they have plans to next 20 yrs.

[@shawnawasthi]

***** it's working very well for UK,but france is the founder of EU how can they leave?

[@sfsfinancing3299]

Wouldn't that be FREXIT??

[@krishnabalaji234]

Nice explanation

[@ayushupadhyay007]

Excellent

[@peacemaker8750]

Sadly, the genocide of the West in India is forgotten,for the interest of the few in government.

[@bademoxy]

HOW ABOUT THE GENOCIDE BY ISLAMIC INVADERS ~8 CENTURIES AGO? that wiped out 45 times more indians

[@vladimer9989]

Who watch in the 2019

[@suspadasatapathy5114]

We love and trust on Russia

[@deviousdevil5556]

Welcome to 2020

[@prafulwankhede5251]

Nicely explained

[@Vishnu-B]

I'm a huge fan of the Su-30 MKI but another point in Rafale's favour is that it is now a 4.5 gen aircraft. Whereas the MKI even with all possible upgrades will be somewhere between 3.5 - 4 gen.

[@Dominikmj]

Most points are invalid. 1) stealth: you can’t really call it stealth if a plane has a RCS of more than about 0.1m2. And yes, a plane with a 5x less RCS has some advantages, but especially modern integrated air defense systems have no issues to pick planes nearly at the same distance in this scenario - especially considering that the armed RCS is far bigger! 2) Role: Su-30MKI is multirole (especially compared to Su-35). And let’s face it: the issues are more about the avionics and less the rest of the specs. 3) the video especially points out how trustworthy Russia is in its arms dealer role - but then also contradicts with its “all eggs in one basket moniker” 4) the Rafale is capable of carrier operations: that is a big fallacy - as the carrier version is a completely different variant and the competition has been conducted by the Indian Air Force! The real reason? There might be some points of the video which adds to the decision- but most likely are the shorter lifecycle of Russian equipment, the accident proneness and the technological differences of the systems. India probably spends a lot into the Sukhois, as it customizes it’s avionics with Israeli and French systems. The Rafale comes as ready package, which might be a far better deal!

[@gobimurugesan2411]

Hey ur the same guy who writing about aircrafts in quora?

[@lijith2657]

Russia😍

[@prasenjitchandrarabidas3942]

Rafael is also compartive design , carry nuclear warhead,speed2mach .I can say it that it will be good choice...

[@bmstyle]

Rafale not rafael...this isn't the ninja turtles and its top speed is 1.8 not 2

[@PegasusTenma1]

American here and I have to say, India made a very wise choice actually.

[@sevvaluderreddy1791]

In our experience we find that french fighter planes have long service without any problems. Where as Russian fighters may be good but have frequent breakdowns and continuous maintenance issues. So better go for French or American fighters than Russian.

[@XpCorba]

they are not comparable, rafale is medium class, su30 mki is heavy class, when you know the difference, you understand why is not compable, it is like to compare A320 neo with B747, not same usage, not same rule, not same cost.

[@RajeshRajago]

Very good analysis...

[@stupidburp]

A mix of a few fighters from different design sources and using different components reduces the risk of any single system being grounded. An aircraft might be grounded due to some previously unknown issue or due to the supply chain being cut off. Ideally India could have Su-30MKI, Rafale, and AMCA in roughly equal numbers. Each of these platforms could be built in India and have domestic suppliers for many components but may still rely on foreign supply for certain components. Splitting these into three groups would allow two thirds of the total force to remain fully operational in the event that one is grounded or limited in operations. Unfortunately India appears to be dedicated to supporting some indigenous designs that are inferior to some foreign designs even if built in India. This does not improve the logistical situation because India will still be limited in production of certain components. Access to domestic production of some components is even more restricted if foreign designs are not purchased. This weakens the domestic designs and delays their development. More Tejas variants should be cancelled, leave only Tejas Mk1A. Then focus on large scale domestic production of Rafale and AMCA development. Production of Su-34 strike aircraft could also be of use, to replace retired MiG-27s and supplement in service SEPECAT Jaguars.

[@AnandAK01]

India should develop a reverse engineering department like China has