Why INTJs are Optimistic Nihilists

[@yournidom6512]

I'm currently with my mom as she is actively dying. My Ni/Fi are intense witnessing this end of life stage. The timing of your video gives me a sense of peace regarding this intensity. I'm grappling with a lot. You thanked us for being here but I want to thank YOU for being here! This video was so timely. I'll be back soon to offer a short audio reflection.

[@justcallmejon22]

My condolences to you and your family. The loss of a loved one is never easy. Feel all your emotions and please, take your time. You don't have to be 100% anytime soon and that's fine ❤

[@okay_art]

I am a 15-year-old INTJ, and I think what keeps me going is my goal. I have been through a lot of trauma and what always helped me through the hell of life was being able to relate to characters in fiction that had harder things happen to them, but they got up anyway. I want to be an author and if I can help just one other person like me to know they're not alone, then I think it's worth it. It also helps my mental health to write characters that reflect what I feel.

[@aiuchiha111]

Damn, I am the same as you in getting strength from fictional characters and I write characters that are similar to me too😅

[@okay_art]

@@aiuchiha111It’s my favorite coping strategy lol

[@aiuchiha111]

@@okay_art exactly. Otherwise life is unbearable.

[@justcallmejon22]

I've grown up admiring fictional characters as well so I can relate. They always seem more real than real-life people. Work towards your goals but don't forget to smell some flowers along the way. You got this my INTJ niece, you know where to find us if you ever feel lost ✊

[@okay_art]

@@justcallmejon22 Your comment made my day! I am so thankful to have your channel. It has helped me to know I’m not alone so many times!

[@shawnw.4440]

"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." Yup, death is inevitable so while I do think about it my focus is to get from life the most of what I'm interested in.

[@justcallmejon22]

I love that all INTJs have their own version of this exact saying and it never ceases to motivate me. The most recent one that's been on my mind is 'I'd rather die enormous than live dormant' ✊

[@danaabbott7066]

Rodger that.

[@TheresRoomAtTheCrossForYou]

Oh my gosh, YES. I had explained to my parents (an infj and an istp) that I was an optimistic nihilist. I do believe that since everything on this earth is practically pointless since, in the end, nothing we do truly matters to anyone other than a select few... that I might as well enjoy my life as I please no matter the ridicule I face. I'm just going to enjoy studying, learning, reading, and stick to my morals wholeheartedly because it doesn't harm anyone else, and the tidbits of information I provide sparks thoughts for others who may enjoy the different perspective.

[@danam3326]

The random acts of kindness really touches me as well… I rarely cry except when I’m overwhelmed by the beauty of something.

[@justcallmejon22]

I usually have to remind myself that I'm in public when those moments hit so hard that I start tearing up 😂

[@emart1923]

"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties." - Francis Bacon

[@TonyDaExpert]

I am in my early 20s, the world at a large feels hopeless, there is a lot you cannot change, however you can improve and help people and things around you, thats where the positivity comes from for me. I can seem p negative and am still behind in that aspect when I see what certain people do, but in the end I will never stop trying to improve myself and help those who deserve it because I am set in trying to make the future better whether I feel like it or not, whether I am sad or happy, hopeless or hopeful, I will never stop trying to better things around me. If its too unrealistic to change the world or yourself in a big way start in the smallest way you can then have it grow to something bigger down the line.

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

Nice. Keep it up 💪

[@justcallmejon22]

I love this dude! You sound like an anime main character 😀

[@andreteles4294]

I will put this one on the list of things that make me think I am mistyped as an INTJ. Personally, I actively rejected nihilism, absudism and pessimism and so on, mostly due to incongruences with epistemological, ontological and even linguistic principles. I am unable to express in words how better my life became after I found a positive and optimistic-realistic outlook on life and existence as a whole. Reading Viktor Frankl’s technical works was responsible for such change of perspective. My perspectives on the human condition and suffering were not just a result of direct or indirect experience, but also of intellectual inquiry. “To be a man is to be responsible”. Thus, to claim one or more of these perspectives as lenses is a choice and, as such, it is wise to choose the one that will give you the sharpest of images instead of darnkened vision and headaches

[@justcallmejon22]

Regardless of whether you're an INTJ or not, I'm just happy that you found a way to embrace life positively. I'm happy for you, my friend ✊

[@coolbreez]

You articulated it so well, i felt understood and validated. It touched deeply, brought tears! For me throught of death is never so far away that it would generate unimaginable fear in me. I had processed inevitability lf mortality when i was young. So, In my college years, i developed this thinking, that that "if I die tomorrow, how would i like to have lived my life while I am alive and have least regeret?" And for me the answer was by learning something new everyday, doing my best in whatever I do as work,". I used to pained by all the things you mentioned but now my profession allows me to do something meaningful for the people and I am happy channeling my energy into it. And I dont watch/read news/newspaper. I can't, the way news has become so superficial and subjective now. For the question you asked: despite all the bad in the world, what gets me going is "i am alive today and I should do my best and use it to learn/do something new or what I like." And in adverse situation, i determine and promise my self that i will go ahead and test my own limits of perseverance and potential till it reaches my inner core, i will leave/detach myself from it at that point. And i have come to experience that once i convince my mind, detachment comes very easy to me. So here it goes, my life philosophy, i ended up mentioning fully here for the first time in my life. I find most people either dont understand or feel uncomfortable when I start explaining.

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you, I'm glad you felt safe enough to explain your life philosophy. It sounds like you're on the right path, the one that makes the most sense for you. I'm always happy to hear when a person is on their life journey 🙂

[@bekkifromwisconsin]

Fun Fact: as a Senior in HS I did a presentation on how much it costs to die. My teacher said it was morbid. I said that it's just reality. Didn't take the MBTI til 28yrs later, but a fun coincidence.

[@suburbohemian]

Lol, it doesn't cost a thing to die. It's dealing with the remains that gets expensive! I'm already on a list for a medical donation group who'll cover the cost of everything after they take all the tissue they need. (They even allow you to donate organs to needy people first too!) After they harvest the tissue for future experiments (that could heal disease maybe!), they do a nice service and you can even specify that no one gets the ashes cus I'll be damned if my youngest sister sits my ashes on the mantel next to mom's and talks at us all the time like we're there. Nope, not gonna let that happen! ;) (My second option was body farm so detectives can learn how to solve crimes...I think that'd be a cool legacy too.)

[@justcallmejon22]

You wouldn't believe the amount of times I had the same convo with my friends who asked me my thoughts on sui***** 😅

[@suburbohemian]

@@justcallmejon22 Yeah, I can imagine. That's all too close to home literally for me now tho...my eldest is presently in a skilled nursing facility after attempting same by jumping off a cliff (he has two dissociative disorders so sometimes he's not even in complete control of himself). My weigh-in now is if you're truly contemplating it beyond theorheticals, please seek help asap.

[@mikeherr5592]

I’m an INFJ and I relate so much to this. I am a very nihilistic person in the sense that I don’t expect goodness from humanity and this reality and yet like you said just witnessing the small random acts of kindness sometimes bring me to tears because it’s just enough hope. I don’t have many friends, especially those that actually understand me but I know I am always understood by my INTJ friends. Thank you, this made my day. 🖤🖤

[@justcallmejon22]

INFjs and INTJs are kindred souls ❤

[@epyon02alpha42]

I'm happy you brought up this topic because it is one that I think, as an INTJ, we can often feel isolated in ruminating on because of the "taboo" nature of the subject of death. As someone who has always been able to kind of casually talk about the subject with ease, I know a lot of people get uneasy because it reminds them of their own mortality, where as I'm simply looking at it as something that WILL happen at some point in time. For me personally, my reality can get pretty grim if I let it, which is why I make it a habit to NOT engage with dumpster fires like Twitter (X) or doom scrolling, because I know that is just a negative reinforcement of things my Ni is already well aware of, and mama-Te has prepared me to understand and except. Which is why for me, I also do not fear death. I see it as an inevitable point where if I want to accomplish something, I have until that final moment to do so. And there's also a sort of cold comfort in knowing that if things really feel like they are that bad, there WILL eventually be an end to it. What keeps me going though are the people that I've let into my tribe. Both family that is from genes or adopted through experience and life all become people who I want to do my best to support for as long as I am able. The complexities of balancing the "universal balance" are the things that absolutely make us Optimistic Nihilists. While I may be able to see a lot of behaviors and predict a lot of disgusting ways that people can act, I can also appreciate when people step up to do the right thing, simply because it was the right thing. I remember when the pandemic first hit, and there was a mad dash for TP, where everyone else was just shocked and surprised by some of the greed people engaged with, I was simply disappointed that it felt like once again, I was right for the reason I didn't want to be. Then I remember I witnessed someone who was obviously in need of some help at the store and a random person just stopped and said, "Oh I happened to get the last two here, but I heard from my friend they also secured some, so we don't need all of this," and offered one of those last precious packs to someone else. It was a reminder that life is a messy spectrum, and you can only know individuals by witnessing them and sometimes engaging them to understand their why's behind things. It's why on one hand, I can see someone obsessed with more and more money and think, "This person is incredibly foolish. Money is a transient concept society has trained us to put far too much importance on when you can't even do anything with it if you die, or if all of society were to collapse." Then talk to that person for some reason or other and come to find out, they're actually busting their ass to support a family member that maybe can no longer take care of themselves and have a totally different outlook now and say, "While I may not go as hard as that over money, I understand their why and I'm not gonna fault them for it because I would definitely do everything in my power to provide for a family member in that situation."

[@justcallmejon22]

I appreciate the last paragraph because I hate the association that a person chasing high-income means that they're selfish. There's so much more complexity to people and to box someone without understanding of their situation is ignorant. I'll never forget working with someone who hated his high-paying role but couldn't leave because his wife had cancer and it was the only way to pay for her treatment. I'm glad you got out of that bubble, it took me a while but I'm glad we're both out ✊

[@epyon02alpha42]

@@justcallmejon22 Absolutely! I think that idea comes from a well intentioned moral trap. We're often shown when we're younger the ideals of morals. Don't be greedy, don't be selfish, strive to take care of yourself and your loved ones, but leave some for the rest, etc. But when those ideals are put up against our often flawed society and human nature it falls short (naturally) and I know for me, my Fi responded by vilifying people who were "too much about that bag," because I didn't want to be seen as someone who was greedy or only in it for myself. Taking a step outside of myself, one of those things you have to do in order to be a successful leader, helped me to correct some of those extremes to get out of that bubble, and realize everything is on a spectrum. And more importantly, someone else's why may not be my own and that's okay.

[@emh2543]

45yo, ENTJ, London - Sometimes it gets very grim and dark, but over the years I've learned to keep my feelings in a cage so they don't bite and don't make me vulnerable. What helped was figuring out my why's so that I could bear any how. Why? - so that I don’t give up, even if life is unfair, unpredictable, difficult and sometimes beautiful -so that I try my best to enjoy the journey ( through discipline and good mental health) - so that I'm a supportive rock and an example of courage for people I care about.

[@justcallmejon22]

I love that you created a system that works for you, very ENTJ 😁

[@priskasama]

Only the vision of my own ideal future drives me. This morning again I just wanted to let go and live somewhere in the mountains, but my vision always brings me back, saying I'm not doing this only for myself but for everyone who want a change too. If at least I could help or inspire one person, then I would consider I contributed in making this world better. Death is a motivator, truly. A friend, repeating me "girl, I'll be coming for you, you better do what you gotta do, don't waste your time, do stuffs you love make that vision a reality, help people and for godsake have fun along the way. There's life for your avatar and then me for your soul". Tks John for this video, truly, thanks for sharing all of this with us. So much depth love it!

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you for the comment! Death has always been a motivator for me as well and it's refreshing knowing that I'm not the only one that feels that way. Keep it up, my friend ✊

[@jocelynleung7480]

As an Fi-dom, it's Te that gives me hope by connecting me with the world. Left to my own devices, I'd drown in my feelings (Fi), unfinished projects (Ne), endless memories (Si). Then I realize that the "robotic heartless machine" of Te is the key to translating all my poetic imagination into reality. I'm not as incompetent as I think I am if I literally see my goals materialize in front of my eyes, through my own efforts.

[@justcallmejon22]

I'm always so happy when an IxFP starts engaging with Te, you guys are so capable the moment you learn how to start engaging with Te. It really is motivating for us when we witness it happening 🙂

[@jeffrey-825]

The cliché "get the most out of your day" is that little bit of hope and an approach for feeling content on the actions of the day or the further processing of thoughts. As long as there is a notion of progression, that's the point of coping with "Does it matter in the grand scheme of things?". Taking steps back or an unproductive day have resulted in discontent. A graph goes up and down, like the stock market. A downward trend is merely an opportunity to start investing more, so the value may increase again.

[@justcallmejon22]

Exactly! I've always been against 'hustle' culture because rest is huge for not burning out. I also don't think that productivity dips are negative if you're able to bounce back stronger. We're humans, not robots 🤖

[@motardktm640]

I love your channel. You make sense to me. The world is grim. Life sucks a lot of the time, but what are you gonna do? It's the people that I care about and that care about me that keep me moving forward. The future is what you work towards making it

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

"Life is suffering. It is hard. The world is cursed but still you find reasons to keep living."

[@justcallmejon22]

I'm glad you have people that motivate you, the world is a harsh place without them ✊

[@NovelFindsByKassi]

It gets pretty Grim, but I've stopped feeling a lot of negativity about it - I've learned to feel proactive instead, to come up with ways that I can help without feeling like I need to carry the world's problems with me.

[@ColorfulMixx5318]

1:26 (Disclaimer:- Not an INTJ so you might find it idk- wierd? ) If by hope you mean what is it that keeps me going despite of knowing that everything is going to end- its curiosity or the very disability to belive that we are created by chance and have no meaning- i live to know the very essence of living and also to know if spiritual talks are just talks.... but if you ask what keeps me going in my grimest times- i think its my natural tendency of believing that everything ends well.. you may call it blind optimism... sometimes it is hard to be optimistic and everything seems to break (tbh it's me myself, my incompetency or insignificance that hits me hard and not the external world) - in such cases of break down, it's "anything" serene, "anything" that brings me back to my path... Its like I create hope rather than finding it- create it in the world outside.... pretty much like in Dust Of Snow- it’s so me that it horrifies me...❤

[@nickolaszissimos1189]

I admit, an INFJ has a possibility of saying that too. As Ni doms, we can and have both thought about death many times. Wondering what truly happens, if we just rot, or if there is something more. Maybe even if we might just wake up somewhere else or something like that. Dominant Ni seems to truly give us a dual nature thus why we seem to live in 2 worlds at once. We always see from both sides, and usually ever other sides both that exist and don't exist.

[@justcallmejon22]

I don't expect anything less from my INFJ-kins ✊

[@nickolaszissimos1189]

@@justcallmejon22 Damn straight, you know it Ni bro.

[@sophi3881]

I feel so seen, i'm a 17yo INTJ and since I turned 16 I began thinking and being tormented everyday by the simple thought that I could die anytime anywhere, literally everyday and even when being around friends I would start dissociating and thinking "I could die right now", and then my day would be ruined, just by my own brain. I always described it to my friends as the feeling of "thoughts tormenting my brain, they came into my mind against my will". Thankfully I got around it and distracted myself and within some (several) months I stopped thinking about it.

[@justcallmejon22]

It happens to the best of us my INTJ niece, just make sure to keep those thoughts in check and not to action on it. You'll get to a point where it actually becomes a bit fun because then you start thinking about life after death and start connecting dots in your life that you never thought of before and arrive to a level of appreciation for life that most will never get to. Keep keeping on ✊

[@thesulechan]

hi jon, you posted this right after i had an absolute fi breakdown :c but the video is great, there's still things to be seen and experienced, it seems..

[@justcallmejon22]

It sucks to hear that you went through a breakdown, I empathize. Life is interesting because you can't fully understand happiness without also experiencing a deep level of sadness. Feel all your emotions, emotions are always valid, just make sure to get up and start working towards your goals when you're ready ✊

[@thesulechan]

@@justcallmejon22 thank youu so much for your encouraging words😭 i be putting my emotions on top of a wall until it all falls over my head at once like books on a shelf...

[@solimandriyan6488]

I agree with your statement, everything fundamentally is paradoxical.

[@justcallmejon22]

We need to stop trying to make sense of everything 😅

[@sylviaowega3839]

That is the problem with some of the educators, that they think something is wrong with you just because you think differently than the other children.

[@justcallmejon22]

The education system is very Si heavy and I got out of it as soon as I could 😂

[@sylviaowega3839]

@@justcallmejon22 I myself, an INTP female got kicked out of the system, because I didn’t cooperate with the system and didn’t do what I was told. The educators were not happy when they forced to take me when I was tested as being smarter than all the other kids in my class. 😂

[@louie4939]

That's wonderful thing about us INTJ we are not afraid of death, we accepted it as inevitable and will happen any time. What I feared is too experience children die before us. I really don't like that experience. My life should be a shield to protect their future that they may also experience life, good or bad.

[@justcallmejon22]

I agree. I would go crazy if any of my younger siblings or nieces and nephews pass away before I do. I lived those realities before while using Ni and I went crazy each time 😔

[@clownworld33]

INTJs live their whole life in a mental doom loop that never ends..

[@justcallmejon22]

I've learned to embrace the dark 🙂

[@jaysgone2020]

I'm an ENTJ and I'm a widow. I dove right into what people call a "Death Positive" movement. I'm starting a podcast around the dark humor we widows and widowers experience after the initial grief process. I've also went to be a death Doula. The way I see death now, is more of a force that helps me to live my full authenticity now. I refuse to regret at the end of my days..

[@The-Labbed-Life]

I would definitely listen to that podcast, please share when you start

[@justcallmejon22]

I am so sorry for your loss. I hope that you're in a better place now and I'm sure your podcast will help many others in similar situations. I'm hoping the best for you ❤

[@The-Labbed-Life]

It’s so crazy, you described me perfectly. I always describe myself as an optimistic nihilist. I’ve learned more about the optimistic side the past 3/4 years. I never thought it was because I was learning more about my extraverted sensing. I think that’s also why I loved the movie Everything everywhere all at once so much. It represents my brain quite well. I think my glimmer of hope is learning, progress and connection. Focusing on the process of learning something new, following my curiosity and meeting amazing people give me the excitement of living. Since I was young I’ve always had an obsession with death. For a long time I didn’t even see the point of doing many things that others were doing. Now, I don’t want to arrive at the end of my life and have regrets. My fear would be to not fulfill my potential. I have this obsession about dying but it’s more like talking to a friend. (Love the quote btw) I love learning and reading about people who are about to die or work with death. This is super interesting to me. I think that’s also why I like stoicism, they make it normal to think about death daily as a reminder.

[@justcallmejon22]

Someone made a comic that made me view the character of Death differently. The comic said that it's a terrifying experience for all spirits onces they know that they're dead, and Death is there because he doesn't want you to feel alone on your journey to the afterlife. I never viewed Death as a negative character ever again 🙂

[@miniharez]

As an INFJ, I’ve had girls say to me “you should ask me out on a date”. And despite being very attractive, I told them “you dont want to date me”. Because I already know their personalities and I know that we would eventually clash, and that’s more exhausting to go through that, or pretending just to get laid😂 But what Ive learned is I can basically tell someone’s personality from the beginning. People give themselves away almost immediately all the time. and thats fine for me to be able to interact with them. I already know what type of person they are and are very much predictable. but the one type of person I ABSOLUTELY avoid are the people I can’t predict. They have very jarrong personalities. because they swing from charming to potentially dangerous. Ive know girls and guys who can be nice one minute then explode the next. Thats why I definitely avoid all homless people/drug addicts. The unpredictability is what throws my deep intuition I normally have reading people from the beginning.

[@justcallmejon22]

I think some randomness in personality is good because knowing everything can get boring. I instead look for values that the person follows. If a person is willing to break values then they probably won't think twice to step over yours.

[@SoYeoriZ]

For me, who happen to be an INTJ, meaninglessness is always an issue. Not an issue because its bad, but because it makes living harder. When you start to see things in such a neutral light it gets indeniably harder to be motivated. Sure, I have plans and objectives but they are much more about maintaining a peaceful relationship with the external world and making sure I'll be okay in the future, materialistically speaking, than for their meaning. I'm 22 and the conclusion I current have is that the only 2 things that really hold inherent value is doing what makes you happy and love.

[@justcallmejon22]

It took me a long time to accept that my happiness is attached to taking care of other people. My Te wants to be useful and valuable and that usually involves another person. I'm not sure if that's the same for you but that's my truth and I hope you find yours too ✊

[@t-man5196]

"I see death around the corner The pressure's getting to me I no longer trust my homies Them phonies tried to do me Smokin' too much weed Got me paranoid, stressed Pack a gat and a vest" -2pac, a clear INTJ

[@justcallmejon22]

Tupac is a legend to me and I personally think he's more on the xNFJ side of things. His Ni is super strong though, that's why he's so relatable being able to see mulitple prespectives 🐐

[@t-man5196]

@justcallmejon22 I was joking lol, if I was to guess I'd say he was probably ENFJ

[@gothiccentral1027]

your right between [10:40-10:53] my observations are based off of bad exspirences i had and its logiccal to question that maby i was wrong but i need somthing but im not sure what

[@markeberle3984]

Absurdism. The philosophy of absurdism. The vampire character from the book "Blindsight". And that book has an amazing argument against consciousness being a blessing. Embrace the ruthless cold that discipline provides. Cold so cold, it has a sound.

[@johnnynezha2634]

I love what you just said. I am an ENTJ, but this is the answer I have given myself. Life is absurd. It has no meaning and is not supposed to make sense. Please, plan accordingly.

[@markeberle3984]

@@johnnynezha2634 I have a bumpersticker version of it: Cope or Rope, choose wisely.

[@justcallmejon22]

I've never heard of absurdism before, thank you for teaching me something new 🙏

[@wenxidentistry]

answer: blindly believe there must be something out there, there must be a reason why I'm here, there must be something I can do.

[@justcallmejon22]

I'll speak for the universe and the answer is 'Yes' to all the above 🙂

[@rue-teelanga4090]

Bouncing all over the place while making sense and connecting dots is typical INTJ so bounce away. As an INTJ teen, I slept a lot and made life-changing decisions that helped my family. Now, I still sleep a lot, but I'm making changes I'm grateful to God for.

[@justcallmejon22]

I'm jealous, I've always seen sleeping/napping as an opportunity cost where I could be doing something else instead. I know the benefits of sleep but always feel guilty unless I absolutely have to 😂

[@rue-teelanga4090]

@@justcallmejon22 lol, I used to feel guilty. Till I realized that I'm more efficient after a nap. So I comfort myself thus lol.

[@waiinisham910]

Yes, I had learned to see positivity in most negative situation 😅

[@justcallmejon22]

It's the best response ✊

[@yellaperida7696]

I am a practicing Catholic INTJ, hence I subscribe to the teachings and theology of the Catholic Church about life and death

[@justcallmejon22]

I've always been envious of people with faith 🙏

[@danaabbott7066]

Knowledge keeps me hopeful and going forward!

[@justcallmejon22]

That's a good answer ✊

[@misspogani7694]

Optimistic nihilism, absolutely. I never thought about the role of Se in that, but you're very right. Experiencing the world makes you more compassionate and understanding. And chill about the uncompromising things you also perceive, because there's a form of imperfect balance. I'm not very optimistic about where the world is going. I hope I'm wrong and something positive will kick up, but it looks dire on many fronts for the next decades. But what can I do about it? There's no use worrying about things that are outside your purview, better to deal with the little things you can at your own level. As for death, the idea is peaceful, I'm prepared to die at any time and I'll genuinely have no regrets. Agony though, that frightens me, the lack of control of it, how pains makes you your primal most animal self, eesh. There's also something to be said about preparedness. I'm always thinking of the worst scenarii, but it isn't something that bums me out, it's just something I need to feel prepared for. Once I've dealt with those ideas, I'm at peace with every possibility. I'd prefer the worse not happening, but I'll be able to deal. I think there's nothing worse than to get surprised with your pants off, so to speak. I'm not good at pivoting right away. But if the paths have already been conceived, eh, just activate this and this and do your best 🤷

[@justcallmejon22]

"I'm prepared to die at any time...", I can relate to that sentimate. I feel like I've lived my life as genuine as possible and the regrets that I have are very few. I'm glad to hear that you did/doing the same ✊

[@anniefarrell9907]

A co-worker once told me that I "Live to work" and not "Work to live", basically that I have no life other than work. I wasnt angry when she said it 'cause it made me think. Honestly, it's (my job) the only thing that keeps me going. But funnily enough, Im not happy "working" the normal rat race corporate desk job. I have a degree unused and talents that dont match my job. And every time I tell anyone they ask "So what are you doing here?" (I ask myself that too sometimes) I too wish to leave something of significance behind. To say to someone that "I was here" when Im gone. I also think about death and as you said, it's not scary (the pain part perhaps) but I do think about it all the time. And I too wrote about death when I was little, that I wanted to be buried with my stuffed animals and dolls (scared my parents. and we had a 'talk') From young I realised that death is everywhere. But so too is life. But what keeps me going now?...Hard to say really. Apologies for the Tedtalk.

[@justcallmejon22]

Ted Talk away -- I asked for it! I left my career because I felt similar to you and now I'm in a better place, not financially but mentally. I hope you reach a better place soon ✊

[@anniefarrell9907]

@@justcallmejon22 Yea u kinda did. Lol. Thanks, Jon. Taking one day at a time. Trying to stay positive.

[@curtismartin5348]

I often feel that I am compelled to save people by creating systems, but the conflict comes from believing people do not deserve to be saved. Any solution will be temporary as humans will fill the gaps.

[@justcallmejon22]

You're not alone in that feeling, most xTxJ's go through a similar feeling ✊

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

I visited Auschwitz last year. That gave me a lot to process... The factories of death were obscene, but just as disturbing was the complicity of people at the time. For example, as a Christian I was disgusted by the inaction of the church during the Nazi regime - these should have been bold crusaders against evil, empowered by the Holy Spirit. In reality, the number of Christians actually speaking out or practising non-violent resistance was very small, and the Pope even facilitated the escape of certain Nazi perpetrators. Yes, that gave me plenty to think about. It's easy to view people as vermin in such a light. But then you read about White Rose and the lone Christian saint Maximillian Kolbe who sacrificed his life to save a complete stranger. There are glints of true character amongst the ruins.

[@ElodieN_INTJ_Typology_Insights]

I visited it too, in 2006 when I was in high school. And I saw a movie about it.

[@justcallmejon22]

It's a rule of mine not to go too deep into religion but I understand your frustration with a group that you affiliate with. It's similar to how I view the US in foreign conflicts, but then I hear about heroes on the battlefield, that defies all odds. It doesn't make me feel less about the US, but I get hopeful knowing that people are making a difference ✊

[@himani922]

Thank you so much for this video. ❤ Although, I am not sure about my mbti (tested infj majority times online, which is not reliable ) because I am new to mbti , But, recently (19 yrs old) I experienced the same case, but I had never thought soo deeply in my childhood or earlier age. Maybe, I felt these things now because I have been very distracted from achieving my goals and was sad. I thought that what is the meaning of doing any thing, if eventually i am going to die, also, the job which i am interested in, wouldn't have any deep impact on society, etc. Like.. my brother doesn't think this way and has a goal (money 😂) , but for me, even if I will get the materialistic pleaure or the good feeling by doing humanitarian things , I thought , eventually, It wouldn't be that impactful. I didn't feel any cause for living life. But, then, I decided that, I would just focus on my goal and maybe thats the only reason for living the life. I totally agree with the part you said about realizing the beauty and kindness of humans and I feel so happy watching these things but I just cannot ignore the ugly side too. So, sometimes i am happy, sometimes sad. And now I just know that i have to live for my goals and enjoy life like others until I die. I know my comment is too long and miscellaneous, but, it felt really really good to hear your experiences. Edit: If you have time and are willing to, then express your thoughts on below videokzbin.info/www/bejne/bHjPi6Scqs6qgdkfeature=shared

[@justcallmejon22]

19 is still young, you're only 1/4 of the way through the average age of an adult human so you've got time to understand yourself. I really do believe that the key to happiness is to follow your own dreams and the difficult part is keeping tethered to those you care about while chasing it. Live life and see where it takes you, plans don't usually work out how we envision it. In regards to the video, I don't have much to say but I don't think anything was really addressed in it🙃

[@himani922]

@@justcallmejon22 Thankyou for your time and advice.☺ And yes I agree with you and I realized that video didn't really cleared my thoughts.

[@Susanna-p1s]

I try to live my life every day so that even if I died during the night I would not leave with any major regrets. Every day is a small miracle and it seems a bit weird that everyone does not acknowledge that they are numbered. Just last week I talked about this with my ENFJ-friend who was struggling with the thoughts of dieing too early and only then realized that it is not considered "normal" to think about death on almost a daily basis. Life is s**t and then we die, but let's enjoy it as much as we can. An optimistic nihilist, sure.

[@justcallmejon22]

"Life is s**t and then we die, but let's enjoy it as much as we can." -- I love that 🙂

[@godKiller.369]

Friend, there is no glimmer of hope. What shines is the raging furnace of myself and I will never stop burning. No regrets, no holding back, no fear, chaos is my bitch. ❤‍🔥 Wasn`t easy though, shadow integration and shedding, meditating to put certain aspects away in their uselessness, hundreds of solitary hours in the dojo, finding the right diet/fasting balance despite bad advice from basically every expert, reading and listening to so many books on philosophy and history and also fiction to set the mind free, lost a lot of friends and family along the way, the mistakes and ded ends that also ended up contributing growth..... finally making all four functions shake hands and it is wonderful. Not evolving was never an option as you will know if you are INTJ.

[@justcallmejon22]

That's the beauty of being an INTJ, we're always evolving 🙂

[@godKiller.369]

@@justcallmejon22 Always 😁

[@Will-fj9gy]

My friends decided i was an intj. I can get pretty grim sometimes but my hope for the future comes from the capabilites of technology.

[@justcallmejon22]

Welcome to the community! Whether you're an INTJ or not, remember that MBTI is only a tool for self discovery and not your identity. Stay as long as you need but most importantly, have fun while you're here 🙂

[@EjnarRaidriar]

Jesus Christ's death and resurrection is the only thing that holds meaning in my life. Without Him, achieving goals, making a lot of effort to make friends and work hard would hold no meaning because, succed or fail, the end is death for everyone. But He promises that it's not. He is preparing for everyone who believes Him eternal life in His Kingdom, full of meaning and joy.

[@justcallmejon22]

I'm happy to hear that you found meaning in something greater than yourself 🙂

[@SeraphimZero]

To you question: I see hundreds of different futures and the majority ends badly. And I sit here and just can watch like Cassandra (greek myth). I deal with depression, anxiety, ADHD and autism (maybe more). But in my darkest times, only my potential I could have for realizing one of the better futures, kept me bound to this world. So yeah it can get pretty dark in my mind. 😒

[@justcallmejon22]

INTJs live in the darkness but we won't let it consume us ✊

[@SeraphimZero]

@@justcallmejon22 Thanks. But sadly I'm not so sure about that. 😕

[@georgeklein6078]

Great Content!

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you 🙏

[@Luca_683]

Man I wish there was an entp who made a KZbin channel like you explaining Entps

[@justcallmejon22]

That could be you 🙂

[@cruzscorner4033]

I am a 17 year old intj who has had health issues to where my entire life would change becouse of it. I had my worst year yet last year dealing with bad depression and anxiety. At the time I had been with an unhealthy ISTP who had become scorned becouse of other reasons. A quick question to all other INTJ’s, when I came across the idea of unliving myself my ti and ni told me what would happen after and the wrongness of the action. My mindset is that unliving myself is cheating life and that all problems that come up in life and challenges for becoming a better human being. Do y’all have the same mindset? My hope is my friends, family, religion and my new ESTP girlfriend who is my biggest cheerleader and my best friend. When I saw this video I almost laughed because of the truth of it. I know in my own life I am really dark because I recognize the darkness and don’t fear it. I don’t fear death or the after party because of my religion and also party because I acknowledged the worst that death could be and know that there is no escaping it so there is nothing to fear. Fear is in its base from is an object or happing that is unknown by your own point of view. A quick example from my own life is I just had my wisdom teeth pulled and didn’t know how the sedative worked and I was afraid of the lack of knowledge. I didn’t know if I was going to be watching the orthodontist cutting into my mouth or be in a sleep like state. I was afraid because the unknown was in my very next action. That’s probably why a lot of people are afraid of the future or gods or death. All unknowns. Shoot this is turning into a lecture lol. Anyway that’s the answer to your question John thanks for asking.

[@justcallmejon22]

Keep speaking your truth! I always appreciate it when people open up about topics that may seem taboo. My reason for staying alive has always been other people. I can do more good while I'm here than if I were gone. It's weird to admit this but I do feel like most people feel hopeless, so I'll be the reason why they get through tough times, whether it's physically being a part of the solution or being the motivational spark. I hope you're doing better now and keep showing up. Showing up is more than half the battle ✊

[@lynnh1682]

In high school i used to write poetry based on dreams that would rival edgar allen poe. But its too bad i cant remember any of them. Constant end of the world dreams. Apocalypse dreams. Plagues, calamities in nature. I think its kinda ironic how i got a black widow tattoo. Because im like a black widow.

[@justcallmejon22]

I definately understand. Most of my poetry is about things as such 🙂

[@suburbohemian]

ROTFLMAO, my dad was a cop and often told me about how cops prepare for situations by practicing them in advance because "You don't want to have to think of plan in the middle of the action cus you won't have the time. We rehearse scenarios in advance in order to have as many possible actions to take *before* we need them, of course, all the time hoping we'll never need them. It's like having more tools in your toolbox before the emergency." So I often ran them too, only mentally, of course, and sometimes I would tell my friends things like "As I was walking to the car in the dark to get my jacket, I wondered what if..." and they would look horrified and say, "Cat, you're so morbid!" Lol, I only share these kinds of thoughts with my INFP friend now cus she gets it.

[@suburbohemian]

I commented there before you posed the question. I'm 62 and have been through many a real-life shitstorm/dumpster fire/ etc etc. I've never been literally on the streets but I've come close (sleeping in a friend's car cus I didn't have one of my own, for instance). Most of the truly dire stuff was in my early 20's after my dad had died cus if he'd been alive, things would have been different. What kept me going? Fictional heroes from fave books/shows etc of my youth (John Carter of Mars "While there is life, there is hope!" But also knowing the stories of my grandparents who individually emigrated to the US from Ireland still in recovery from the Great Famine, before eventually meeting each in Los Angeles and building a new life together. I chose/choose to look at life was an adventure and what adventure doesn't have gritty plot twists that make the character stronger? Besides, Death is not an enemy;it's the ultimate conclusion of living.

[@suburbohemian]

In the end, though, I'm an optimistic cosmicist these days. We're literally not the center of any universe except our personal universes. So we can just make our own meanings. "The rain falls on the just and the unjust." (I never loathed myself as a teen tho....my sister was my personal tormentor so she was the focus instead.)

[@suburbohemian]

I was also very very lucky to meet my BFF4VR at age 14 and she's a half-Sicilian ESFP! No matter how much in my trench I was, she could (often quite literally) drag me out to do something else instead of just sit and stew.

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you for such an honest response! I hope you're in a better situation now and that you've either accepted people for who they are or cut ties from their toxic habits. It sounds like you went through a lot, I'm glad to hear that you're still here 🙂

[@Rhodium-tn5dx]

An INTJ here and been thinking about this for last 3 days: "I hope to meet death with my eyes wide open"

[@justcallmejon22]

People always think I'm crazy for saying something similar 😅

[@Rhodium-tn5dx]

@@justcallmejon22 a star trek TNG quote :)

[@annl.5512]

The hero function is always positive

[@Lenastar23]

Another great one - INFJ

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you 🙏

[@lotusshrine]

oh!!! wow... i know i wasn't depressed!!! someone said i am "secretly" depressed when i talk about death (sometimes) but i was just talking about possibilities lmao 0:45

[@justcallmejon22]

Talking about death is therapeutic sometimes because it allows us to feel every range of emotion and know that it's okay to feel that way 🙂

[@PaleGhost69]

Apparently, i triggered the algorithm into thinking my comment was spam. Check your filter if you care to see my comment. Can't even have deep conversations in the comments without them hiding your stuff.

[@justcallmejon22]

I gotchu brotha ✊

[@jitbug5312]

Fred Rogers is a proper Legend

[@justcallmejon22]

One of the Greats for sure 🙂

[@NugrahaNedi]

Bener ini om , saat kita di interview kerja oleh HRD selalu deh 😁👍 gara gara optimis tapi nihil dianggap aneh sama beberapa orang yg gak paham . Btw luka infj sama juga kami kaum intj memahami luka anda . Ni dom . Terimakasih aja karena ke tolong SE kita .

[@justcallmejon22]

Saya telah belajar bahwa orang tidak akan memahami banyak cara saya memandang dunia. Tidak masalah, karena bagaimanapun juga aku akan menjaga mereka ✊

[@NugrahaNedi]

@@justcallmejon22 paman ,bantu kami buatkan konten kenapa nasib karir profesi INTJ itu gak semulus karir nya Elon Musk atau Mark Z si Icon INTJ , dan bantu kami supaya dapet pekerjaan yg layak dengan berbagai kelemahan INTJ yg membuat diri kita terhambat di karir😁🙏

[@Chrupignat]

Personally I would say that I could live like a complete nihilist not seeing value in anything as we all will die eventually and life as such but I chose not to. There are so many fascinating things, there is so much beauty that much better choice is to enjoy them ven if this is a fleeting experience.

[@justcallmejon22]

Exactly! Life is too beautiful to ignore 🙂

[@Chrupignat]

@@justcallmejon22 but that also means sometimes it's distracting as heck 😉

[@_Thunderball_]

Yep. Gonna sound morbid but my own death and the death of my relatives are all played out for me since I was 10 when my grandfather passed away (that's what made me start thinking about it). I know how I'm going to feel, I know how I'm going to react. I've already let them go. Some of them are still there and I appreciate the moments I still have with them but I'm aware that they're finite so it's not going to affect me as much when they're gone. I've never actually had heroes. I've always respected competency but I've never put people or organizations on a pedestal. I've never had a favorite team, favorite player or band. I know why I like certain things and always try to expand my knowledge to understand it better, but I've never had a desire to idolize someone. Also I'm pretty sure the function that makes us get shit done is still Te, always Te. I've started coming to terms with my Se about 3-5 years ago (I'm 36 now) and as I understand it now (based on the difference that I see before I was less concious about my Se compared to now) Se makes you aware of possibilities that arent ideal but practical. Se makes you appreciate variety, new experience and different interactions. This wont make you an adrenaline freak, Te is still the thing that gets you going. Se wont make you leave the house unless Te thinks that it makes sense and is efficient but it will make you aware of the possibility of doing things a little bit different for the sake of new experience. I do agree with the part that experience is overlooked early in life and is extremely important (Ni likes the idealistic approach and doesnt care about practicality). I dont think we're optimistic. We'd like to be wrong but since most of the time we're right we tend to make negative predictions so that when reality actually exceeds our expectations you get huge amounts of joy from it. I still dont think there's anything good about vomiting at the bathroom stall even if someone is helping you. I still dont care about random acts of kindness, I'm going to be calm and collected in a stressful situation not because I believe in humanity, but because I've played this situation out already and I'm prepared for what is happening. And yes. Death is fucking scary. Because you dont know what's beyond. You know the possibilities, but you dont know.

[@justcallmejon22]

I was forced into a world of Se in my early 20s so I had a lot of time with it and it really did help me get out of the comfort bubble. I don't fully agree that Te is the only function that makes an INTJ leave the house but that's the beauty of MBTI, there's lots of room for interpretation and multiple reasons can be correct at the same time 🙂

[@_Thunderball_]

@@justcallmejon22 Maybe it was your Se motivators that made you leave the house instead? :P

[@kimberlydonaldson4904]

I feel seen ❤

[@justcallmejon22]

❤

[@PsychologyoftheBrain]

As an entp, it makes sense that you think about death, but it is funny. I can't see a thing in the future. I do wonder what my last 3 minutes will be like. When my body is dead, but my brain still alive. Will i be conscious when i die. How would it feel dying, if i have 3 minutes. Will it be like a dream, or feel more real. But apart from that no. I do not think about death. I just see death as birth. Quite frankly i don't remember being born, and the 13.8 billion years before it. Tried to remember the birth of the universe, but no cigar. Similarly, won't know shit about the next 1 trillion years. It is what it is...

[@helenshianimation7567]

I don't know why INTJs are seen as pessimistic by the MBTI community. I think INTJs are very optimistic, INTJs are future oriented from the start, an INTJ who experienced unhappy childhood will see opportunities and find a way to get out of it, they are not the kind who get stuck in their mindset. Tell me if I'm wrong?

[@justcallmejon22]

I would say that most INTJs will find a way out but can still be nihilistic in nature. People also attribute stating facts as being negative and that's all we ever really do but there are definitely pessimistic INTJs out there 🙃

[@5moreminutes117]

I wont comment on anything on the video. Why??? bc i havent watched it yet. but im sure it will be great . every second. BUT i thaught this is a personal indiviualized way to think and NOT explainable through MBTI (T-T) but its really intresting how this fits

[@justcallmejon22]

There are definitely trends that can be noticed based on cognitive functions 🙂

[@ashlieperez3755]

Bruh. I need advice on my INTJ. He’s so confusing and I wish I never got back onTikTok bc I’m bombarded with videos that make me think I’m wasting my time on someone whose actions never match his words and it’s so confusing 😩 like being an INTJ, he makes so much sense but then in totality it just seems like I’m wasting my time and love on someone who’s really not interested in me as much as he says. I know this is unrelated to your video, but I need someone to help me understand INTJS 😂😭

[@justcallmejon22]

Girllll, we can't help you if you don't post questions for us to help answer 😂

[@ashlieperez3755]

@@justcallmejon22 whoops 😅 good point, I’m sorry. So I guess a specific question would be, can I trust what my INTJ says, even though his behavior doesn’t match his words? Because he’ll say, “I wouldn’t say I love you if it wasn’t true.” But, by his actions, I don’t feel loved, I typically feel like I’m not worth his time. Do I trust what he says, that if he didn’t mean it he wouldn’t say it?

[@ashlieperez3755]

@@justcallmejon22I feel stupid asking this question 😅😅 he’s just so confusing. I’m also an INFP , working on my anxious attachment issues

[@cscainit7916]

can i have some advices on how to focus on things that you don't like to do and how to get it done ? ( i'm having problem in concentrating in natural science subjects at school)

[@justcallmejon22]

Think about the big picture, where doing those actions will get you. Once you figure out why you're doing something, then you'll figure out the how. Neitzche said something like that 😅

[@gothiccentral1027]

when i was a kid no one cared about my ideas and the rest where to boring too dirty too dumb i felt like an alien i knew the answers before they did i spelled everything good my numbers where good until highschool now i wanted somthing i didnt want before and they passed me at every chance they got grades opertunites they where floating and i was sinking they let me sink i drowned and died than when i looked around i relized love is not just a lie its part of a bigger lie the truth is we are born alone and we die alone i remember death and its like waiting for the bathroom cant wait but i have to hope the drowning metephore didnt confuse the se and fp types

[@justcallmejon22]

One of the most difficult part of an INTJs life is finding our tribe. A tribe that will accept us for who we are but also hold us to high standards where we become a better person every day. You'll find it one day, dont forget to take breaks on your search but never stop looking. They're out there, I promise ✊

[@builder-xk9tv]

Love from infj

[@justcallmejon22]

❤️

[@adelinamarice5887]

Death and life after death

[@justcallmejon22]

💯

[@sonyaweir1135]

No, I will not!

[@ElodieN_INTJ_Typology_Insights]

❯ How grim does your reality get ? _My parents said : "You look like you carry all the misery of the world" (not surprising with my type & conditions😆) I perceiving/detect people for who they really are, understand everyone & everything, think to everything, ideas pop in mind everyday. I perceive/feel/detect the energies, so I know when something or someone is good or bad. _I am not afraid to die anymore because it's just a transition, not the end, it's probably the same of an out-of-body experience. I will scare everyone if I share my Ni about life & humans : we are programmed, we decide nothing, we just do what our unconscious & intuition want us to do, we just control the details, not the whole. Otherwise we wouldn't experience synchronicity, life unfold, everything happen as planned, like a theater. ❯ What is that glimmer of hope that keeps you going ? I know the future (already shared it in video) I dreamed about human skeletons walking, all alone in their head, when I was 1 or 2 years old. I know the human condition almost since I am born. We are all alone in our mind, and disconnected from each others. That's why people need to be exposed to healing frequencies (or mediate), nature, to heal, to reconnect with themselves/others/the world/the essence. Intuitives need to do their role/job to change the world. Accepting the reality & human condition as it is, or try to change it. Edit : I never understood why people are nasty, and judge/criticize others Enneagram 5 more prone to think to the deep aspect of life & human, than the other enneagrams.

[@justcallmejon22]

Learning how to let go of the misery of the world was something that took me a while to learn. I agree that INTJs need to learn to either accept that we can't change the world of we have to be in positions to change it ✊