Distinguishing Genuine INTJs and INFJs from Impostors | Introverted Intuition (Ni) Deep Dive

[@NB-qy7ku]

5:58 ni: organize data - try make sense of things SE: collect data 6:25 example ni/se (Intj/infj) 7:05 Se/ni example (estp,esfp) 8:05 ni parent 8:10 ni child 10:30

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you, my friend 🙏

[@artixi3291]

The bike analogy is one of the best explanations I have seen to contrast Ni-Se and Se-Ni. Having high Ni in today's world is having everyone assuming you are against them simply for bringing up nuance that is not being considered.

[@justcallmejon22]

I truly believe that everyone INTJ is a villian in someone's eyes 🙃

[@MaliMaslacak526]

The same goes for having a high Ne unfortunately. People nowadays are sort of offended you are not like them - period. Not the same sheep blah blah blah 🐑🐑🐑😅

[@roselynfactor4229]

this is currently the conflict i have with an Se Dom and i can really apply the bike analogy when this person is constantly accusing me of wrong decisions because he thought i know all data when this exact person is witholding so much information. I always reason with this person that i am like a calculator, if you input a wrong number or operator, i will always give this person a wrong answer. this bicycle analogy is really on point.

[@TheIT221]

Indeed

[@jessicahunt3175]

Infj here… What you said at the end is spot on. We don’t feel “special” because we are misunderstood and lonely. It is the worst to have people close to you not understand you or misunderstand what you are saying. It’s a terrible feeling, not a “special” feeling.

[@justcallmejon22]

You're not alone in that feeling my Ni sister ✊

[@-HiddenInPlainSight-]

A real INFJ knows how hard a INFJs everyday existence is...

[@justcallmejon22]

You're not alone in that feeling, friend ✊

[@TeaObvious]

In the beginning i've somehow understood why people would like to be an INFJ or INTJ - because we are portrayed as the special snow flake, the wizard knight that saves the world... How ever i and the only other INFJ i know, i am not aware of knowing one INTJ, we would wish to be any other type but an INFJ... Sometimes when i see the videos on this channel i wish to be an INTJ, we are similar enough that everything still makes sense - i can't imagine a world without having Ni-Dom, but being able to use Te and Fi instead of Fe and Ti, sounds so relaxing and comforting. Dunno if the INTJs sometimes have the same wish... My biggest wish would be, to be an *NTP especially an INTP - i don't really know why, they simply fascinate me. Sure they have their own issues, but still they are so fascinating...

[@atorredosmagos7178]

As an INTJ i absolutely knows, i can imagine my world without TE: sucks

[@macronomicus]

"you can only move through the tunnel of agony until it turns into ecstasy" Richard Rudd - from 39th Gene Key of Liberation💚

[@BuizelCream]

"Why would we [INTJs] be proud of something we don't have to put effort in?" That's so freaking true. I tend to be proud of the stuff that I had accomplished in reality, such as when the plan is complete and the task is done, because it's when my ideas are being put out there for people to engage in. In fact, I don't brag about my ideas, which was built up by Ni and comes naturally to an INTJ, and the plans that I make, which Te naturally structures itself around due to being an INTJ. I love to explain and ramble about it, sure, but it's the work that I have to do that's when my self-respect grows. I also tend to notice myself making a subtle implication that whenever I talk about my ideas and plans to other people, I kind of appear or sound like I had already done it. It's like a prophecy already made sure (but it's not a prophecy ofc). I dunno. Maybe it's just me and how I self-actualize my plans by stating it as it had already happened to ensure myself of its completion ahead of time.

[@justcallmejon22]

I relate to your last sentence so much! The beauty of being an INTJ is that if we can envision it, then it's only a matter of time before it becomes reality ✊

[@jocelynleung7480]

My husband and I came back from a meeting with a friend and he said, "I really like talking to her because she can stick with a few key themes throughout the conversation." I asked, "what specific themes were those?" And he actually didn't know how to strictly answer that, until I pointed a couple out and he said "yeah, that's what I meant, but I couldn't express it until you did." I feel like that's an example of "I Ni so much I don't even realize when I'm Ni'ing"--even Carl Jung said that Ni-dominants were terrible at verbally explaining themselves!

[@aiuchiha111]

A book says Ni is beyond the grasp of the existing vocabulary.

[@justcallmejon22]

It really is difficult to explain so I'm not going to add more besides that I'm happy your loveboy was in an enjoyable conversation. It truly is more rare than it is common to find those 😅

[@samueltomjoseph4775]

How about patternrecognition or deep learning recognition?

[@jacobwiren8142]

Well, yeah. I'm an INTJ, and when I was a child, it was impossible for me to answer a question quickly. The moment someone said, "why do you" or "what are you" or "who are you" my mind would immediately jump to the Big Bang and the creation of the universe, and then start cycling through the entire history of the universe up to the present moment. I had to mature a bit before I realized that people just wanted a simple "yes" or "no" or "I'm fine". 😂

[@roselynfactor4229]

ahhahahha damn i am that very person.

[@denizegb]

This explanation of Ni is the clearest I’ve listened to so far. Thank you for helping to dispel a lot of misconceptions about us Ni doms (INTJ woman here). I truly don’t understand why some people (who already know deep down that they’re not Ni dom or even aux) would want to pretend to be one for rarity points lol. It’s lonely… it’s lonely to most of the time be the only person in a crowd going out on a limb to point out the nuances about a situation or topic and reason out why their black and white conclusions fail to account for a lot of missing data- only for your breath to be wasted on these people who fail to grasp the essence and follow your line of reasoning. The bicycle analogy is so on point. I’ve guessed that maybe some legitimate INJs have learned to romanticise our supposed rAriTy and mYstEry to distract from the actual struggle of being misunderstood and often vilified. But I’m more inclined to think majority or many of us would rather be understood down to the level we seek than be seen as some prophetic figure that comes by once in a blue moon

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

"Treat MBTI as a game where you win by becoming more than just a stereotype."

[@FriskRobotnik]

“Ni doms have been prepping our entire lives to have enough information that we can fix a problem without having to engage in the sensory world in order to collect more information about it” 🤯 Get out of my head 😂😂

[@justcallmejon22]

Go outside INxJ !!! 😁

[@quickgirl80]

Holy crap!!! I don’t know how you so clearly explained why I can talk at length & all day long with my INTJ son & he gets me (INFJ) but when others listen in on our conversations they’re lost or don’t see the connection. This also explains how I lose people in conversation when I think I’m carrying the same thread throughout. You’re good!! This is the second video of yours I’m watching, as I newly discovered you, but holy hell you break it down in my INFJ language. Ni Doms feel lonely in the outside world but you make me proud to be a part of this small special group & made me realize my Ni Dom is a superpower.

[@SohamHamsah]

I get really angry about this too, to the point where I completely stopped trying to talk about the topic entirely. What I realized is that many non-INTJ types simply do not care about accuracy and don't think about the consequences of their actions. INTJs are constantly verifying the facts because we only want to put out content with high quality information. And we can't help thinking about how this information impacts others. Whereas some types are just completely blind to this.

[@justcallmejon22]

"...how this information impacts others" is exactly what happens when Te or Fe gets involved. I agree that how it affects people matters just as much, if not more than what is actually being said ✊

[@Mannyxz]

Exactly but in my case it harmed my relationship with a person and now I don't know how to get back to normal with that person.

[@Love_her_so_much]

I could relate to this. A LOT. But i don't know if i'm intj or not because it took a lot of time for me to predict thing accurately fast. Often times i just predict thing accurately but slow. That's the ultimate doubt whether i'm an intj or inferior ni user.

[@melodiej6875]

I'm so happy to have found your channel. You are probably the most real INTJ I've found on youtube- what I mean is, you aren't going out of your way to act out the ridiculous stereotypes of an INTJ. You're authentic. I greatly appreciate what you had to say all throughout this video, especially at the end. You've gained a female INTJ subscriber 👍🏻 Looking forward to listening to the rest of your content!

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you for the kind words! It really does mean a lot 🙂

[@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes]

Great video as always. I noticed too certain MBTI contents creators mistyping people, and the money, views, subscribers, likes they got by spreading wrong informations, and using methods which lead to wrong results (methods which for me stay in surface) or sell online course which are just informations we already share for free. INTJ, we know it, we know a lot of things, but more often we say nothing. Trying to detach, let go, and focusing on ourselves, even if inside we feel the urge to correct & solve everything. The day I was sure about my type, by connecting my memories (Ni does an amazing job to understand traumas) : I just cried, because it was so true that I didn't expressed emotions. It hurt me to know I was Fe blind, but also happy to have Te. Being an INTJ is more a traumatic, soul breaking, frustrating experiences. Being so deep is loosing people, is feeling lonely on this planet is probably the worst feeling. Feeling we have not our place in this world, or that we have to completely rebuild/improve it, having to correct the wrong informations and solve all the problems. Sometimes I just want to throw my brain and have another, because it's a suffering, even if it's also amazing. Thanks to you to correct that intuition is not a hunch, and that there is no relation between a vaccine and Autism (I am Asperger and passionate by this topic) Se dom almost created problems about me and another INTJ because of their wrong associations of informations. One assuming we were together, another assuming that I move to another city (one of the reasons why we share few about ourselves, we are sure people will not spread misinformation about us) Sometimes I even lost INTJ enneagram 8, because I (enneagram 5) go deeper than them. In these moments, I felt so sad and lonely, that I can't completely connect with other INTJ. I felt that uniqueness, that I am. "We see things that are important in systems that other people can't see." It's so true. I loved the way you talk about bushes, it bring magic. And I love geometry. The ultime "test" to know if someone is INTJ or not, is the ENFP detection : they notice us in a flash. They are attracted to us like magnet. Our authenticity attract them. We also recognize each others. We see ourselves in their way of thinking and behaving. We can't miss the Ni stare. So yes our own interpretation and understanding, and level of depth, at the point we lost people on the way, and come back to the loneliness feeling. I once got judged because I didn't use a specific model and bring my own understanding (Sorry it's Ni) My favorite contents are the one made by INTJ, and sometimes INFJ ENTP, who bring new, deep, authentic, unique ideas/topics that no one ever made before, who think by themselves. (and who don't copy paste informations/text found on internet and make automatic video on it) It's so refreshing, and entertaining to listen the own understanding of others, their unique way. If someone want to be an INTJ, I hope they are ready to suffer and to be able to handle it (they will probably not survive more than 24 hours)

[@RaidenShogun..]

Do you know the content creator, Takling with Famous People? Is he really good at typing?

[@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes]

​@@RaidenShogun.. Knowing, no I don't want to know him. But yes I already heard and seen his channel. If you want my honest answer : No he is surely the worst. Immature and disrespectful character. He created problems to many creators. I find it unethical to type people, who didn't ask for it, also disrespectful and stupid, especially when the persons in questions are MBTI content creators who know who they are and are the ptype they say they are.

[@justcallmejon22]

I agree with a lot of what you said and I stay away from Enneagram because It feels like comparing apples to oranges (two different systems with their own rule sets). In regards to ENFPs, I've met a few that I didn't get along with and they felt the same about me. People are more than their MBTI type Elodie but yeah, I understand what you meant when you typed that 😂

[@Bobby_101]

One of the better videos I'v seen on Ni. Good job. One of the things you said in the end reminded me how every time my higher Se friends got into a "deep conversation", it always felt somehow childlike to me, I instantly sensed as if they are inexperienced in having "deep thought" and they somehow seemed to be so proud of it as if doing something they don't do much, while I had to sit there and pretend that I find their insights impressive not to hurt their feelings, but to me it all felt like obvious stuff I thought through in child years already. Since the "deep thought" is just the basic Tuesday morning for dom Ni, I kind of have to hold back in situations like these and play dumb, not to sound like I just got the answers to everything. When others have a deep convo, there really is just this sense of being a parent to children, and not wanting to interfere.

[@justcallmejon22]

I agree 100%. I learned really early on to treat those conversations similar to talking to a child where I continuously encourage that behavior so that they come back to me to practice. On the flip side, I see them doing the same thing to me when I'm in my Se-grip so it's a mutually beneficial relationship 😂

[@Bobby_101]

@@justcallmejon22 Exactly. This is almost certainly the feeling anyone has when weaker users are using their dom function. Haha I'm just not sure they react so nicely though, ESTP's get quite annoyed at others Se mistakes in my experience.

[@Azdaja13]

I've just thought of another rant about this topic: There's this thing constantly about trying to predict which types are the "most narcissistic" and pretty much always I hear INTJs, INFJs, ENTJs etc. getting called the most narcissistic type for really stupid reasons. A lot of the time it is stereotyping from people who don't understand INTJs (or INFJs) and who often don't seem to understand narcissists either. They look at a list of stereotypes about INTJs and go "Sounds like a narcissist!!!" and make really shallow comparisons, then disregard patterns from actual INTJs, often disliking manipulation (not very narcissistic), being unaware socially (very not-narcissistic, narcissists are socially hyper-intelligent - it's how they manipulate people and create cults of personality around themselves) and often shun materialism (again, very not-narcissistic). Narcissists also are known for impulsivity, irrationality, black and white thinking devoid of nuance etc. The other thing is that they cite so-called "INTJs" they know irl who are narcissistic but the only thing they have to go off of is the narcissist's own word about being an INTJ and shallow stereotypes about INTJs (as well as their own preconceived notions and prejudices). Yeah, this cannot be taken seriously at all because narcissists lie constantly about themselves. It's a manipulation tactic they use called a false self. They create the illusion of being something they're not. Now, amongst the MBTI types, which one is most often fetishised and given this vaunted status of specialness? INTJs. And secondarily there's INFJs. Narcissists are well known for creating the false self of being "intuitive", when they're most often not intuitive at all (why would an actual intuitive brag about being intuitive?). They are precisely the types of people to be _mistyped_ as INTJs because they're going to lie about themselves (because they lack a sense of self, hate themselves, and need to orient their sense of self around how they want others to see them), and they'll see INTJs as the cool, special type to be (or INFJs if they want to use the whole "I'm an empath!" shtick, which is very common, narcs do often tell everyone how "empathetic" they are) like "I'm dark and edgy and totally a sociopath! That means I'm INTJ! Aren't I such a genius!?" From my own observations in my personal life, most narcs I've encountered have been ESFJ, ISFJ, and the SP types. This isn't necessarily because there's something wrong with those types, it's because most people are those types so I'd say most narcs are likely to be those types too.

[@justcallmejon22]

Keep ranting, this is a safe space. I hear that word thrown out a lot as well even in my own personal life and have an idea of where that feeling towards INTJs comes from (I can't speak for the INFJs). There are certain people (not types, but individual people) who expect a certain level of emotional validation or neediness and will project their own insecurities if it isn't received. INTJs have blind Fe, so we're not going to reciprocate the expectation of that person if we're not paying attention. To those people, the world revolves around them and their values, so they think that anyone who goes against either of the two doesn't care about others. I only watch one reality show and that show is Love is Blind on Netflix. There are so many people on the show that do this and there were INTJs in two of the seasons that this was directed to. All this is to say, I feel your pain and annoyance ✊

[@RaidenShogun..]

Hello, my type unsure here and I think Stereotypes are just dumb. Also I heard a low Ni user say: “You use a lot of brackets in your sentences, therefore you must be a Ti dom cuz you want accuracy!!!” Well I thought that’s a bit suspicious cuz how do they know and where they get that info from? Explain? From that statement, I think It’s not true cuz I see my Fi dom mom use a lot of brackets when texting to people. The Ni doms online use a lot of brackets too. Even the people in this comment of the comment also use brackets. Anyone can use brackets. Other things I heard low Ni users say: “You look skinny, you need to stop skipping meals!” “You are very quiet and refuse to talk today because you are not getting enough sleep!” “You like to paint, therefore you are a sensor!” “You like philosophy, therefore you are an intuitive!” “You cry a lot, therefore you are a feeler!” “You like to sleep, therefore you are depressed” It’s not good to simply conclude things.

[@m_n_a_b]

​​@@justcallmejon22I don't think of INTJ as narcissistic at all. Sure, there are likely some out there... which is terrifying since INTJ has this unconscious several steps ahead kind of planning going on, but it's rare. My husband is INTJ and I see his heart for other people. He completely misses certain social cues... like, right over his head, but he genuinely cares about people and wants to see them become their best self. Most people don't see this in him, because they aren't close enough to recognize it. They hear him talk about our business goals or our local political involvement and they think he is boring. However, I see all sides of him, including the fun. I'm ENFP and my favorite thing about him is his integrity and honesty. I love how he sticks to a moral code and won't bend for anyone. He's genuinely and authentically himself and I love that. When we first got together, my parents thought he was incredibly controlling because of his unconscious advanced planning. They said some very painful things to me about him and I was not okay with that. What they saw as controlling, I saw as planful and logical. I knew I needed that in my life. It annoyed them for the longest time that if they asked for time to spend with me, I would always tell them I needed to check with my husband and get back to them. They thought I was getting permission. What they didn't know is that he does the same with me. We check with each other and look at our shared calendar to ensure we aren't overbooking ourselves (something I had a bad habit of doing and I could maintain for a short period of time before I was exhausted and ready to crack and needed recharge time). They finally chilled out when I told them one day that he does the same with his family and friends. Now, they realize this is just how we operate. I watched my ENFP dad and ISTJ mom make plans for years without informing each other and then the fireworks that flew because Dad wanted time with Mom but she picked up a shift at work, or Mom wanted to stay home and clean the house but Dad signed us all up for some social gathering. I didn't want that in my marriage. Anywho, I think most INTJs have this caring and kind heart buried beneath their logical and technical exterior. Most people only see the functions they lead with, but I know there is a caring heart in there. I've seen it over and over with my husband. He's one of the most amazing human beings I've ever met (I am biased, of course), but genuinely, I couldn't stand the show boating I saw with so many other men out there. I'm not intending to bash men when I say that. I've just seen so much machismo chest beating stupidity that was a facade for an insecure person inside and I hated it. I wanted nothing to do with that. My INTJ is one of the most genuinely authentic people I know and I adore him for it. I also love dragging these slight upturns at the corners of his mouth by my antics, when he thinks I don't notice. Bonus points if I can get a full fledged smile. One last thing I love about INTJs is that they don't only see the fun, quirky, side of me and consider me to be an airhead. Most people overlook my mind because Te is third. I have certain people we work with who overlook me completely and don't take me seriously. That is super frustrating. My INTJ has always seen and admired how my mind works and he has always taken me seriously. He has also always shown genuine care for the inner workings of my heart. By that, I don't mean that he knows how to approach me in correction without hurting me... that is something he is working on, because he tends to just be very blunt. What I mean is that, he is a great listener if I share with him that something is bothering me. He is intentional about that and has always been intentional to ask me how I'm doing emotionally or to get at the core of my hopes and dreams. For that, I love him so much. Anyway, long ramble, I know. But, I hate that there is even a thing out there where INTJs are all being accused of being narcissists. I've dealt with real narcissism in my life, and the way I felt around those people is the exact opposite of how I feel around my husband. I don't believe any type is inherently narcissistic. I do believe that certain types may come off that way due to their cognitive function stack. But, a real narcissist has zero empathy and needs to be in control of the other person using manipulation, lies, gaslighting, etc. My husband abhors manipulation and he will call people on their crap if they are trying to manipulate me and he sees they are trying to harm me. He absolutely does not tolerate that. One more reason why I love him.

[@Azdaja13]

@@elsiebeauty 1. Is English your second language? Don't get into arguments in a language you're not fluent in because it leads to confusion. 2. Nothing you've described is NPD. What you're actually describing is just the common old prejudice (and lack of understanding) Fe-users have for Fi-users, and vice versa.

[@genesisp3884]

@@justcallmejon22 Which ones were INTJs? I'm an INFJ and I am trying to understand how Ni manifests in INTJs. Your videos have been very helpful so far

[@richardjones3887]

Thanks for telling the truth about the difficulties I encounter with people I love. Not being able to fully share what you know or really be understood can be one of the loneliest feelings.

[@justcallmejon22]

You're not alone in that feeling, my friend ✊

[@Azdaja13]

1. The main takeaway that people should take about dominant-Ni users is that we actually tend to be quite careful when making predictions. I know this probably isn't apparent to an outsider (sorry, can't think of anything else to call people who can't see in my brain) but INTJs and INFJs are usually very careful when making predictions about what will happen because they'll want to make sure they're not missing any information and want to make sure they actually understand what they're saying before they say it. This is why I get really confused when I see things like "Personality Database" where they constantly mistype characters as INTJs because they're "so certain about this one thing" yet most of the time, those characters (usually villains because prejudice, stereotypes and ignorance...) haven't actually looked at all the information and considered all the possibilities which is very out-of-character for Ni-doms (most of these characters are either very abnormal Ni-doms, or they're just not). People hear "consider all the possibilities" and think Ne but no, it's both Ni and Ne, but they approach possibilities in opposite ways. Sure there may be possibilities an INTJ or INFJ hasn't considered but that would be due to a lack of Se information which, once presented, is going to cause an INTJ or INFJ to re-evaluate everything (rather than what a lot of the denizens of Personality Database seem to think which is to just ignore the information). Ni-tunnel vision is a thing but if an Ni-user sees they're about to hit a wall, they'll stop, or slow and change direction. Ni-doms are also unlikely to reject something out of hand if they don't understand it, but are far more likely to reject something out of hand if they understand it enough to know someone is talking out their arse even if they don't recall (or discarded - because no longer necessary) the exact data. 2. This clarifies a lot of arguments I've gotten into over the years (or people I've observed and chosen not to engage, that's more recent. Younger me would have engaged and gone for the jugular) where the person has made some very black and white statement where if something isn't one thing, it's another. Binaries do exist so saying "black and white thinking is always bad" is black and white thinking in of itself, but most of the time such black and white thinking is used where far more nuance is both possible and required to actually understand something. I got into argument over this a while back when it came to relationship dynamics with what I'm guessing was a low-Ni user (was actually trying to figure out what they were when we were arguing so I could understand them better and use that information to predict their moves and pre-emptively counter them - was inconclusive though) and they kept saying things like "If you're not dominant in a relationship then you're submissive and someone has to be dominant" as though relationships were a constant power game and struggle and as though the concept that a relationship could be harmonious and a partnership where both people operate as one unit (rather than two opposing sides always in a state of conflict playing a charade of happiness) was completely foreign to them (to the point where they were acting like such a thing couldn't exist, even though I've observed it but also theorised it when I was a child thinking about what kind of woman I would want to marry - basically someone who was an equal to me... yes, I thought about that as a child... >.

[@justcallmejon22]

Never apologize for rambling here, this is a safe space for MBTI enthusiasts! What you said in bullet point #2 really resonates with me and I empathize with what I assume to be name-calling after a while of misunderstanding. I have marched, donated, and been a loud voice for women's body autonomy but the moment I tell someone that their request isn't equal anymore, I'm labeled a sexist or that I think women or lesser than men. This comment is just to tell you that you're not alone in the frustration and good luck on your book! From my experience being around ISFPs, Ni tends to just be a eureka moment out of the blue where things just fit together and they can't really explain why =)

[@Azdaja13]

@@justcallmejon22 I had a moment where I was copying down what I wrote onto paper (no printer + good for spotting areas for improvement and improving in real time) and realised "Wait, this section I was planning on adding for this character is actually a better introduction to this character (ISFP) than my actual introduction" and decided to rewrite it as the introduction (to not say too much publicly, it shows their Se more and makes it very obvious what kinda person they are). And ahh, because I do get those eureka moments a lot where things jut fit together but usually this is after quite a bit of thought already. And usually I can end up explaining why. But I can incorporate that. EDIT: One thing about Ni-doms and predictions is I think INTJs are probably going to be more careful than INFJs when making predictions due to auxiliary Te keeping Ni in check. Like, imagine Ni making a prediction out of seemingly nowhere, well Te is going to question that prediction and demand objective evidence and the two functions would be at odds (inside my mind is like a constant battle between Ni and Te as I'm questioning myself constantly). Whereas with INFJs I think Fe might enable Ni more... but it may depend on the circumstances because perhaps with more social stuff where Te might be clueless, Fe might be more careful.

[@lotusshrine]

girl... dude... idk what you identify as but i relate to all of your points TO THE DETAILS. ive had a conversation about dominant-submissive with someone (who is falsely mistyped as an intj btw🤣) and i have had the same hurdles writing about an isfp girl character that i just end up dismissing everything. and the last point. i was mistyped as an isfp/infp (mistyped bcs i only relate to how they "show" as and when i try to relate with them i ended up feeling like an imposter) and once upon a time i try to be more impulsive just like how people advised me to because it "fits" my personality better but guess what!! my life fell apart!!🤣 from now on i will plan every little thing in my life until im dead. btw sorry for dumping all these i got a little excited by your points💙 thank you for your comment i kinda feel less alone lmao

[@questinpodcast]

Made it to your end rant - laughing at the planning part! Thank you for sharing this video. Learned a lot about the noticeable differences between Ne + Ni. Great examples throughout!

[@PaleGhost69]

Schrodinger's bike seat. You don't know if it's there or not until you sit.

[@justcallmejon22]

So you can be sitting on anything?!

[@grumpyschnauzer]

@@justcallmejon22 Haha I used this once in a discussion. A guy I knew said believing in God and having faith was like seeing a green light and having the confidence to drive through. I asked “What if you thought you saw a green light but it was actually red? It’s like this chair I’m sitting on at my desk… just because I see it’s there when I go to sit does not mean it is actually there and where it needs to be when I sit down.” It can be both there and not there at the same time and both outcomes can be true.

[@John-bf1cc]

This has to be one of the best NI video's out there. I guess what makes it so great is; not only does the video explain NI super well but of course is itself an example of Jon's strong NI. Jon identified problems in the INTJ/INFJ videos and online MBTI community broadly and used his NI to carefully craft a video that narrowed down the problem. He included a few reasoned and logical explanations to help account for why people are shoe horning themselves into NI dom personality types and then even offered some great solutions. Next Level!

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you for the compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed it 🙂

[@ptyleranodon3081]

Great analogy! I am constantly floored by people who can be so utterly certain about... well anything. And then if I ask someone if they've looked at a certain topic from this or that other perspective and they react as if that's the most absurd thing they've ever heard. It's just mind -boggling to me. The down side is that it can be really hard to decide that the information you have is sufficient to move forward with a decision. It never feels like enough.

[@justcallmejon22]

Your last sentence is the reason why I love having Mama Te so much! Te tells me that regardless of how limited the data set that we have is, there's a timeframe to arrive at an answer so just arrive at one already 😅

[@quickgirl80]

- I think Ni Doms easily acknowledge that multiple things can be true, even seemingly contradictory things. - There’s not enough air or time in the day for me to explain how I arrived at a conclusion, because I would literally go over hundreds & hundreds of scenarios (& still not share all of them) & why they would & would not work & the outcome of each scenario. - eyes glaze over the second I get serious about a subject. I learned to quickly state something & shut up. I’ve been told I over explain, that I think too much, or that it’s not that deep. - I ALWAYS welcome more information about anything & everything. - I’ve tested at having an “unusually high curiosity level”. I firmly stand by the statement that “there are no stupid questions.” Sometimes I laugh to myself that someone didn’t understand the basics but I respect the fact they’re asking to understand & would never want anyone to feel stupid for asking any question & I would love to help them understand. - a compliment I will never forget & am very proud of, my grandma told me I have a knack for explaining the most complex subjects in a way that a 3 yr old can understand it. At the time I (INFJ) had no idea my 3 year old son was an INTJ, so of course he understood what I was explaining 😂

[@MNkno]

Thank you for clarifying!! Ni preps with information collection pre-event in order to make sense of things when something happens! I'm incessantly collecting information, (reading books, tracking news online from global sources) but am chaotically disorganized on my desk and in my closets... Those who say "But masterminds are never so disorganized, and they control us with their master plans" really mis-reads me: my plans don't get made until the problem occurs, I make sense of it, and vet several alternative paths of action before saying anything. The main benefit of the MBTI should be, we all think and express emotion differently.

[@justcallmejon22]

Agreed! People mistake Ni for Se/Si all the time. We're organized in our mind but not so much in the real world 😅

[@adelinamarice5887]

I have worked with an ESFP running exhibition organizer before. Tho I admired her energy and creativity, she drove me insane with the lack of understanding of the consequences of her actions and decisions later. And the lack of considerations. I forgot how I got an idea to change our pages of proposal into one page of brochure. That was brilliant idea that later adopted by other organizer companies. But what pissed me off she just cut the brochures only to part that benefited her work and neglected the other part. I mean it didn't cross her mind we not only needed to sell the booths but we also needed to make sure visitors come to our expo. So I got mad because then we needed to work twice as hard. As for the video whatever intj content creators whatever you just said, I don't understand the mbti community politic tbh. So no comment on that. But unless I can or think I can apply what they say irl, i rarely watch. It's always same things anyway. I do notice this trend in quora tho. Ppl just point fingers at one another "you're not NJ type". I mean how we call ourself as Ni person if we just randomly accuse that based on 1 question or 1 answer without considering other factors like maybe they are INJ type but is in a loop, maybe they have mental illness or personality disorders, etc. And also being one seems to bring no profit anyway. So yeah I don't understand that. I did have problem with a quora space after I asked a question. Dude got over dramatically up set and called me lotsa stuffs for trying to open a valid discussion. Even banned few members who disagreed with his attitude. The name callings and banning didn't bother me at all coz I got that a lot. But I wonder one thing, how are we growing as intellectual beings if we don't allow healthy discussion? Where is that famous analytical mind and eager to learn of an INTJ if we refuse to exchange point of views? Sorry I am rambling.

[@justcallmejon22]

Preach!! I usually call out the name "Grace" in my videos when I'm mentioning someone that I don't enjoy being around and the reason is because I once worked with an ESFP by that name that I could not stand similar to your experience. We'd be good friends outside of work but boy was it extremely difficult working with her 🙃

[@alallya8]

Jeez.. Couldnt be more accurate. My ex BF was exactly like that as well, never had any idea of what would be his act/decision impact and consequences, nor how it will affecting others. Couldnt work along with, let alone resolve problem smoothly. Fun when it was just for fun, but more headaches than the fun part.

[@BibleBoy70X7]

I love the bike analogy! You're so good at explaining things! Thanks for another great video❤

[@justcallmejon22]

I hope it made sense 😂

[@BibleBoy70X7]

It did!@@justcallmejon22

[@amsli6191]

This is spot on. I had to pause the video to write this comment - the mutual understanding between ni dom personalities with regards to the essence of a topic, how we demonstrate the same underlying issue with different examples that just seem random to non ni users. You can spot a fellow ni dom (and a non ni dom) by having a conversation regarding something of depth, like meeting a new person through work and discussing work related topics. With fellow INTJs & INFJs, there is less frustration because we know when the other person has started to lose interest/getting tired without having to confirm it. Their train of thought will just be self explanatory.

[@justcallmejon22]

It's one of the most natural feelings 🙂

[@ashdeen]

That "How?" at 17:00 killed me 😆 As an INFJ, you've given me a lot of data points here to get closer to fully understanding how to describe Ni and differentiate Ni from other functions. The descriptions of Ni at parent/child spots was especially helpful too. Thank you!

[@justcallmejon22]

We'll continue to grow together, my friend ✊

[@bekkifromwisconsin]

I don't know why anyone would CHOOSE to be an INTJ. It's kind of lonely here.

[@justcallmejon22]

Extremely loney 🙃

[@jfi_]

Lonely ENTP under stress.

[@DiLu-o3p]

Bravo! Good job for calling them out! I’m a content creator too on my other channel and I’m annoyed with misinformation being spread by people who don’t care. I also hate clickbaity videos i refuse to do it. I love that your videos are exactly what it says on the tin. My partner is infj and I’m just learning about the Ni dom functions. It makes sooooo much sense because we communicate in almost another language. We make noises and use obscure references for everything based on our favourite show. I often say to him “you know anyone else watching us have this conversation will have no idea what we’re talking about”. Our Ni is communicating on our own private frequency, using all metaphors.

[@justcallmejon22]

INFJs really are one of the best partners for INTJs so I'm hoping the best for your relationship 🙏

[@RaidenShogun..]

I really like your explanation! Also, those with 3rd slot Ni are Ne blind so they dont care about possible options, that is why their Ni is stubborn and want to conclude one thing and when people ask them how or why, they just can't. If people ask them to do fun Ne ideas kind of activity, they struggle and instead will be shooting their Ni on it.

[@justcallmejon22]

That's a good point and thank you for that! I didn't even consider where Ne is for them and what you said makes a lot of sense 🙂

[@NugrahaNedi]

Intj : BLA BLA bla People : how or why Intj : ...... !?!?!?! People : ?!?!?!

[@shannon1242]

Found your channel today and I'm learning about my Ni better by how other types experience it and this is good stuff. I'm an INFJ and I get so triggered when I'm talking in depth about something (and jumping around to different examples) and the people around me go it's been 5 hours can we talk about something else? For one RUDE because I let them dump their emotional garbage into me without complaining and the time compression happens of it's so rare to talk about the stuff I'm really into that once I start it feels so good. I also can't nerd out about a topic and notice how delicious my meal is. I have to stop talking and make a manual choice to switch my focus to Se.

[@justcallmejon22]

Glad to hear that my video was helpful! I relate so much to your comment about noticing the meal. I have to conciously remind myself that I spent time/money to buy this food so I owe it to myself to appreciate the taste 😂

[@Chekuthan0101]

I loved the final rant🔥

[@justcallmejon22]

😅

[@ramsesemerson]

The logic on your channel makes me so happy.

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you 🙏

[@psychcasserole]

Brilliant video Jon and I loved seeing the bicycle analogy and the rant at the end was 🔥 Top notch.

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you brotha 🙏

[@Nicole-vu1ij]

It’s crazy to me to see what I didn’t know what to call my way of problem solving being explained to me so clearly. This video was so interesting and explained exactly what I do on a daily basis to me, I loved it

[@justcallmejon22]

Always fun learning more about yourself, isn't it? 🙂

[@SumJrk]

Way to go, sir! I have been using Quora a bit lately, and it is laughable and annoying at the same time to see all of the mistypes voicing their advice about INTJs to the world. It is amusing to me because it is so easy to pick out a mistype or imposter by their erroneous views and lack of understanding about the reality of being an intj. For example, one who claimed to be an intj was giving some advice to a coworker of an intj on how to control an intj as a co-worker! 🙄 that one wasn't hard to pick out.

[@justcallmejon22]

I've given up trying to correct people on other platforms and focus on making my own videos. Some people are willfully ignorance and we don't have control over that so it's best to focus on what we can control 🙂

[@SumJrk]

@@justcallmejon22 I agree. I don't try to correct them. It is just annoying or humorous at times.

[@Stella-dh9fo]

I agreed. I'm excellent at understanding how others feel except my own feelings. I have expressed this to my INFP sister. She knows what she feels but may deny it. I can neither deny nor confirm how I feel. That's why I'm usually a neutral person and only explode when pushed to the limit.

[@justcallmejon22]

I've lost track of how many times I've said, "I don't know how I feel" when I was feeling something 😂

[@2rythm797]

I am subcribing… I notice how many took that short version of the test that is not comparable to the original test. Overgeneralization sucks

[@justcallmejon22]

I don't like the test either and I think the bigger is that most people aren't aware of who they are so they answer the questions incorrectly. I'm guilty of doing the same the first time I took the test 😅

[@anju5124]

I think this is the best video I have seen on differentiating between Ni & Se, Ni & Ne and high Ni using types and low Ni using types. I really loved the examples as an infj. Thank you so much Jon! ✨

[@anju5124]

Also would you do a video on the differences between Ti and Ni. Those two were always confusing to me. In my case they seem like working in sync that I can't tell them apart that well. Both seems to be looking at the Whys and both seem to be analysing data. If one is green light and the other is red light, all I can see is a yellow light.

[@justcallmejon22]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video and it means a lot that INFJs agree with what I said. I've been working on a Ti or Ni video so it's coming soon but Ti is still difficult for me to grasp. So....stay tuned 😅

[@anju5124]

@@justcallmejon22 Thank you so much for replying. ✨😊

[@YW-gm9gu]

Thank you for sharing this informative video regarding introverted intuition. I also agree Ni-dom conclusions are not based on a hunch, where several sources have claimed it to be. It's like what you were saying earlier in the video about it being our natural state. It's right in front us yet we sometimes fail to acknowledge it. How can we acknowledge something as a hunch when it's something we depend on yet not fully understand ourselves? We sift and sort it all internally to reach the so-called "hunch". Yet the "hunch" is only as accurate as the accumulation of information pivotal to understanding the issue at hand. This may just be me but Ni conclusion isn't a mere thought. It is rather a thought among other internal thoughts to reign supreme but not from a narcissistic point of view. It is still open to both like-minded or different opinions when shared with the outside world. I liked the last bit also. It's sad that people are taking advantage of what's available to make a profit for themselves. Rather than going through the process to type themselves correctly, they not only stunt their own growth but also the personal growth of individuals interested in understanding themselves. I totally agree while the information about MBTI is now is more widely known, it's also saturated in more ways than one and not in a good way. Having to filter through the pool of information mixed with misinformation populated by stereotypes makes the process of understanding oneself more difficult. I have not watched any of the "bad egg" INTJ content creators, but from how you said it I would say they meant those terms from a place of being above others hence they are alone and misunderstood. Last but not least, I related pretty hard with not leaving my sanctuary unless necessary.

[@justcallmejon22]

I've heard people say that Ni is one of the most difficult function to explain which I agree to an extent but I think explaining how it function is the easy part. The hard part is explaining my own ideas when I'm engaging with Ni because that's a whole universe in itself 😂

[@shannon1242]

Also love your planning examples. I recently took a trip with my ESTP sister and I was joking with her about her blind spot to the long-term implications of things. ESTP has the reverse functions of INFJ and it was hilarious how many things she had planned kept going wrong. She has to really sit down and hyperfocus on planning every little detail weeks in advance and things still kept going wrong. I realized after I had to step in to do damage control how much better things went and I expended 1/100th of the mental effort she did but had better results. It's just not something I notice until I see how hard it is for other people.

[@justcallmejon22]

I feel the same around my ESFP brother. I usually just sit in the background and wait until the stress gets to him, and then I start guiding him 😅

[@christianmoulart]

Perfect video, I am so happy that you made and posted this one, I know you HAD to stop the bulshit content creators who are hurting poeple and are not competent at it. Please stop apologizing and being so full of precautions (I know it honors you but as an Intj it’s almost not normal 😂). Personally NI FI and SE validated the full video 200% at first watching. TE made me watch again and again before validating😅… go on bro you are on the right path.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Who are the bullshrt content creators?

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you! It's always nice to hear when people appreciate my content 🙂

[@mlb70]

I first got into MBTI about 7 years ago, just surface stuff. Did a couple of tests and thought I was an INTJ, I decided to do it as I function at work and how I conduct myse;lf and interact with other at work. Which didn't cover my full character. About 2 years ago I decided to test again and decided to do the test as myself, outside of work and it came back INFJ and the more I learned the more I came to realise and accept the fact, that that is what I am, it's so obvious now, way too emotional. lol Learning my type, has helped me develop as a person and not feel so weird and alone in this crazy world. Things I thought were problematic are just functions of my character. this helped me a lot and I learned to love myself for it and not get down because of it, hope that makes sense. I enjoyed your video and how you explained Ni with the bicycles. Also the end in regards to planning. I never thought of it in respect to every day things. When I think of planning, I think of a real plan, to accomplish something (what is needed to sell my house for example). I didn't realize that everything requires some planning or lets say a specific thought process. I laughed when you mentioned not leaving the house without a plan. I always put it down with not necessarily a plan but I needed a reason to leave my house. Same thing in the end I guess. And I absolutely hate leaving the house once I get home. If I forgot something, it's just going to have to wait until tomorrow. lol

[@justcallmejon22]

Funny to hear your story because I once considered the thought of being an INFJ and then realized that I can't be because of how little emotions have control of my daily life. The outside world is hard to engage with my INFJ brother, I feel it, I haven't been outside in 3 days 😂

[@m_n_a_b]

Oh my goodness! I had a similar experience! I kept testing as ESFJ or ISFJ, because I can be incredibly organized at work and I enjoy socializing, but only in small groups at a time. I'm energized when in small groups of people I am close with. But, I also require a LOT of alone time and recharge time. So, there was this constant confusion as to what the heck am I? In a work setting, I also latch on to concrete details and MUST know EXACTLY what the expectations are in order to ensure I can check all those boxes and not drop any balls. It takes all my concentration and focus, but I can do it. However, in my free time... see also how I was in early childhood... I am very unplanned, unorganized, fly by the seat of my pants, pursue whatever interests me in the moment (most of which is a crazy huge range of various topics from all over the map), and I typically am doing several projects at one time. I am perpetually late to everything (although I sincerely TRY to be on time), and I am much more likely to procrastinate on anything that seems boring to me, or that I am dreading. See also repetitive, monotonous tasks. Even within my workflow, my best work is done while I am avoiding other things I don't want to do, or while I have the pressure of an impending hard and fast deadline. The work that comes from that pressure is absolutely phenomenal... especially when it comes to administration and organization (unbiased opinion based on As on all my term papers, and the opinion pf my ESTJ friend who told me she has never seen anyone else who can remotely hold a candle to her natural administrative capabilities. That's huge coming from an ESTJ). However, it utterly drains me, too. I need fun after a long day of working like that. So, about two weeks ago, that ESTJ friend told me she thought I was typed wrong. Her family deep dives MBTI, and she knows I am a Feeler, for sure. She was also adamant that I am extroverted, not introverted. Apparently, as an ESTJ, she needs a lot of recharge time, too. She also noticed how well my husband (INTJ) and I understand each other on a wavelength that leaves those around us scratching their heads... yet with only a few words, we already know where the other one is going. We are usually in lock step with our thoughts. She was sure this meant I had to be intuitive, or it would be much harder for him and I to communicate. Then, it was a matter of P verses J. She brought up that most J types are impeccably on time and they don't need to try hard to be early. She also mentioned how ordering and organizing things give energy to J types, so their free time is spent cleaning and organizing their house without feeling like the are drained. Same with workouts and other disciplined and structure based activities. I thought about my husband and realized how true that is. He has a hard time slowing down to rest. I have a hard time even getting started. I know this is an inferior way to evaluate type (using letter by letter), but I didn't understand cognitive functions at all at that time, so she couldn't go there in her explanation. So, she theorized that I am actually ENFP and told me to retake the test from a place of my free time or my early childhood memories. Sure enough, ENFP. That's when my world went on tilt as everything I had believed about myself was thrown into a blender and I realized that this new type was the key to understanding all these weird "quirks" and "idiosyncrasies" I had always thought was simply me failing. I would constantly have conversations with my INTJ husband where he would ask why I couldn't seem to be able to consistently keep to a schedule. He thought I was a J type as well, because he hadn't deep dived MBTI and he has been witness to my insane organizational skills, too. So, it didn't make sense to him why I could be so organized in our business, but couldn't seem to stick to a schedule or discipline outside of work. I didn't understand it, either. Or why I constantly forgot where I had placed items or would forget to grab items I needed for the day and would need to go back for them. So, when I got ENFP, I went down Alice's rabbit hole to try to understand this personality type, and the more I saw, the more resonated with me. Bells went off in my head, along with epiphany moments. I deep dived further than I ever have before and I've been obsessed the past two weeks (also something my husband had noticed and scratched his head about for years... my love for researching whatever topic I'm interested in at the moment... which usually changes every few weeks... lol). I also want to note that I never dug this deep when ENFJ or INFJ were my results. I read the overview and thought, "Yeah, I definitely care about people and was interested in psychology or nursing. I also love working with kids. Okay, cool." But, I realize now, I wasn't interested because those types seemed so ho-hum and boring to me. I had zero interest in deep diving. But with this, I am fascinated and can't seem to stop deep diving because there is more and more revelation of why I am the way I am coming to light. I feel like I finally have permission to simply be me... without feeling ashamed or like I've failed for those late moments, procrastination moments, my house not being Martha Stewart perfect, and those moments I am forgetful. I also now feel freedom to be bubbly without caring of someone is annoyed by it. I was raised by an ISTJ mom who controlled our home life with emotional manipulation, if you didn't fall in line. Her house is immaculately clean, she is always 20 minutes early everywhere she goes, and she somehow has energy to stay on top of everything in her life aside from rest. She always made disparaging and judgmental remarks over every way I didn't measure up to her. The result was a deep sense of shame over simply being me. I still had a large dose of the ENFP non- conformist in me, because in my adult life I make decisions that are best for me and most closely aligned with my values and I will not bend on it. She can just be mad. But, her judgment has always sparked anger or hurt in me. Usually both. Anyway, it is because of that judgment that I constantly felt ashamed of the ways Si was simply being my inferior function. Now, I understand it and am embracing it, and learning to laugh at myself and give myself grace in those areas. While still trying to ensure I'm productive. That is the endeavor now... how to use my type to best achieve my goals in life.

[@aiuchiha111]

Thank you so much for this. This is the dire need of the hour!

[@justcallmejon22]

I got you ✊

[@CalmWaters787]

Thank you for debunking the myth that real INTJ like conspiracy theories. That one has irked me for a long time

[@justcallmejon22]

It's still wild that INTJs being conspriracy theorist is a stereotype 😅

[@user-qr6eb4jg9n]

@@justcallmejon22 Why wouldn't it be? Ni is about the discovery of hidden truths, is it not? Reading between the lines, connecting the dots, revealing the hidden man behind the curtain? The stereotype exists because that's exactly what a "conspiracy theorist" is. "Conspiracy theorist" is a term for someone who has insight and theories about a hidden plot or agenda. It would be more accurate to say that INTJs hate fake conspiracies. An INTJ would be very interested in real conspiracies, in my mind.

[@dxfifa]

Conspiracy theories are actually Ti/Ne I would say. Even SFJs have a very conspiratorial lens, although they tend to choose the company to share that in

[@carmenmcclain7465]

Thank you! The only suggestion I have is to rename the video “Will the real INTJ please stand up, please stand up”. No really, great work! I hope I see more, and it encourages imposters to stop.

[@justcallmejon22]

I aint trying to be Slim Shady's next rap target 🙃

[@llGemini19]

If someone opens up describing their personality like "I'm INFJ which is one of the rarest types!" I immediately know they're not INFJ. Yes, on a certain level it's cool to know that your personality type is very uncommon. But that's also what makes it so horrible most of the time. It wasn't until I met my bf, an INTJ, where I FINALLY was able to communicate with someone in my most natural and carefree state, and knowing he understands what I'm saying and the why and how. I don't feel like I have to stop every few seconds and explain myself like I do with everyone else in my life cause they have no idea what I'm saying anymore. That shit is incredibly debilitating. Not having people who can TRULY understand you on a fundamental level is extremely lonely and it's not something I'd wish on anyone. So it's really weird that people wanna be "mysterious" or whatever other stereotype exists about INFJs and INTJs. My bf also has issues with people understanding him and they usually just write him off as being an asshole when he couldn't be further from that. But it seems like in the same way he's the only one who understands me in my life, I'm the only one who understands him in his. These people have no idea how awful that is to deal with.

[@justcallmejon22]

I'm glad you and your loverboy found each other. Please take care of him for me ❤

[@Deathly_Visage]

I actually detest planning and generally avoid doing it. Actually, that's not completely true. I dislike the conventional method of planning: calendars, reminders, certain times to do certain things. Too many details. Plans made in such a strict way lead to disappointment when things go awry. Better to have a general guideline and wing things if need be. Or, I guess we could call those "contingency plans".

[@Lowdermoomoo]

Yup! It’s funny to me because my husband is always like “you should write that down” and I’m always like “why? You already told me when, where and what time, I’m going to remember” he’s always overbooking himself and he’ll write it all down and STILL forget about his plans and he’s so shocked when I remind him “shouldn’t we be getting ready for XYZ?” And then he starts freaking out cause he forgot 🤣. Best way to put it, it’s like I have software in my mind that whenever a plan is made, I block that part of my schedule off like an EHR system where I organize and place basically a little appointment there. But once I get there, the plan is not having a plan 🤣 I like playing it by ear. Like I hate when people ask me where to eat or to look at a menu ahead of time because it doesn’t matter to me, I know my palate is extensive and I’ll find something to eat when I get there, I eat by what im craving and I know I don’t know what I’ll be in the mood for until I get there. Contingency plan 🤣🤣

[@Deathly_Visage]

I do sometimes write things down. (I have ADHD-PI.) Unfortunately, sometimes writing things down gives my brain another thing to overlook. Important appointments and the like would go into a calendar with an alarm set a few days prior indicating that I need to mentally prepare myself for it. But strict day to day or weekly schedules aren't my thing. Tbh, most of my planning amounts to things in video games, a realm more easily predictable than the real world.

[@justcallmejon22]

I agree. I tried keeping a planner mulitple times in my life only to give it up once I saw the pattern that I'm going to write it down once and forget to pick up the planner again. I outsource it now, putting something on my calendar and set a reminder a few days ahead in case I forget. It's more effective that way since I save more time and get the same results 😂

[@donwald3436]

No INTJ wants to be INTJ, being an alien in a human society sucks.

[@justcallmejon22]

💯

[@tpwdtest]

Thanks!

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you! 🙏

[@Peaceforall20111]

True Ni doms can always tell the imposters. I am an infj and only recently met an intj and now I know that you can’t fake being an Ni dom to another Ni dom. Love the knowledge you provided though

[@justcallmejon22]

INFJ's Ni is familiar but also feels different because of Fe/Te. I appreciate it though, because it helps me with my blind spots 😁

[@brittaniloschiavo4850]

This was the most helpful video I've ever seen in understanding what Ni dom experience is like! I have been mistyped as an INFJ 3 different times, by 3 different people in type consultations, likely for exactly the reasons you listed here. INFJ has not quite felt right, and those closest to me have told me that it cannot possibly be accurate based on how they know me, but apparently I look like the stereotype of an INFJ. The problem is, I don't think like one. In all of the examples you gave - and huge applause for the examples here, seriously, almost NO ONE explains Ni using examples - I naturally went the Ne route without exception (go figure, I'm actually an INTP). But discerning the difference between Ni and NeSi based on ambiguous descriptions and stereotypes is really difficult. It never occurred to me to determine which bikes were good to ride or not ride, for example, my first thought was to go down the path of what would have to change to make the non working bikes usable, and what potential items might be used in place of the traditionally used parts (sticks for handles, could a wheel barrow be attached to the front in place of wheels, or a large shovel for winter, as a way to move snow, or a large roller or ball)? You have made the difference between Ni possibilities and Ne possibilities really clear as well, whether you meant to or not. Thanks a lot for this, it was so good! Your content is really clarifying.

[@justcallmejon22]

What I'm hearing is that my bush and boat example was not clear enough 😂. JK! I'm glad this video provided more clarity. All the INTPs in my life are in our 30s and they are all working on Fe so I understand why people who don't know you can type you as an INFJ if they don't listen to why you're focusing on it. If you're still not certain whether you're an INTP, I have two videos with my INTP friend where she and I describe our differences in regards to our approach to things. Check it out if you haven't yet!

[@RaidenShogun..]

Also, sometimes intp think they are good with Ni cuz it’s their 6th function. But they most prefer using Ne.

[@roughrosa]

And you explained an example of how Ne works so clearly. I had many instances of the above analogy where my friends suggested such replacement solutions to those ‘incomplete bikes’ but in my mind I could tear the suggestions apart in an instant because how I can visualise that those replacements ends up not working. What most important to me was to explore the scenarios where we know complete bikes do exist, until proven otherwise. I would entertain their ideas if the ideas make sense or that we have an urgent use for the bike to reach a purpose, but still it becomes frustrating to me because the suggestions in most instances are just simply not workable, safe or stable at producing results. It takes twice the time to McGyver it and they even have no ideas how to mcGyver it when you ask and peel the layers of how deep they thought of their ideas before they spewed them out (although i already know those wouldn’t work). Then I gave them multiple scenarios how those ideas could go wrong. Then they accused me of not being open minded and being negative. It was even more frustrating to me that they made those ideas as points to joke around and delayed more time in finding out the actual solution. I have to regroup my thoughts and remake the ‘other bikes’ scenarios in my head again as most of these scenarios went “poof” when I was entertaining their ideas and rebutting theirs with more scenarios. It’s so exhausting and frustrating process and inefficient use of brain power. Truly they were ‘children’ I have to keep them on track. I became villain at the end. I am ranting. Sorry 😁

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

16:55 I'm INTJ and I never took it. There is a lot of emerging evidence that the CV causes a range of deleterious side effects (admittedly, autism doesn't seem to be among them - more heart- and immune-related problems). It is not a conspiracy theory to criticise this substance, and we must put aside our biases to be open to emerging evidence.

[@nateo200]

I mean I have Asperer's but I'm ultra higgh masking but as a kid I had a reaction to a ton of the vaccines and lost the function of one of my legs for a week so theyslowly introduced the vaccines. I also have numerous autoimmune issues that are debiliatin. I'm not saying it caused it but I'm also saying as an Ni dom I'm not able to rule it out affirmatively.

[@yetitweets]

He rants like an INTJ😂 I love it! When it's a topic I'm particular about, I'm all Ni and F(e or i) over that thing like a female dog. I have a visceral reaction to what I consider willful, destructive ignorance. Like be dumb, but please don't spread your stupidity. And on credit, true! I find it manipulative to take credit for something I didn't put effort in. Folks think I'm humble...😆Couldn't be more untrue! Thanks for speaking my mind so easily dude! Yeah, I rambled. 🤣🤣🤣

[@justcallmejon22]

Ramble as much as you need, this is a safe space for MBTI enthusiasts! I'm not humble either by any means but I keep myself humble by reminding myself of all the things that I don't know 😅

[@Gavanater7]

Ni always sees the path forward and sees opportunity for growth simply because it's open minded asking the right questions to understand the concept. It wants to get the most new information out of a big picture. At least that's how I understand it

[@obrotcho8289]

You're very spot on with this video. All wannabe INTJs don't understand what it truly means to be one.

[@justcallmejon22]

💯

[@Chrupignat]

About planning: there are 2 running gags regarding my person. First is that I can be spontaneous, I just have to plan for that. Second is that I often say to people that I don't even go to toilet without planning it earlier. Edit: I agree with your statement about being lonely. This is a horrible feeling and although I''m at peace with that I might not be able to find someone I'm not going to resign without trying to do something about it.

[@justcallmejon22]

Sometimes, I think about how much more work I can get done before I can use the toilet. Then, I think about how much more effective I'd be after using the toilet. Once the latter makes more sense, then it's time to use the toilet 😅

[@Chrupignat]

@@justcallmejon22true, man. Quite true.

[@ericaerazo5681]

So glad you made this video!

[@justcallmejon22]

So glad you enjoyed it 😁

[@calebparker5632]

I would also say that another way to spot an Ni-dom is if they seem like they have more to say but decide to hold back. I think (at least for intjs like myself) that we are still able to see Fe in a very foggy state swirling around a social situation, and that's why we might hold back our Ni from a conversation. We would rather wait until an opportune time to explain our thoughts rather than being constantly shut down by other people because of the irrelevance and timeliness of our thought processes (I hate trickster Fe) Basically, if they usually go in depth but sometimes look uncomfortable about a topic that you know they could explain a lot about, then Ni might be trying to show itself

[@justcallmejon22]

I understand what you're saying because I've done it so many times that I lost count, but I don't it's a clear indication of an Ni-dom. People will hold back during conversations for many reasons, Fi because they don't feel confident, Fe because they want to maintain harmony, Te because they don't want to waste their time, etc. People will react how they were taught to react to things so this leads back to looking for the "why" to find an Ni-dom ✊

[@calebparker5632]

Oh shoot, yeah that's a better way of putting it for sure. Thx for clarity👍

[@dxfifa]

Te parent is very aware of hierarchies, respect, what people think and therefore is prone to know when their words are wasted or they are not going to be able to make anything happen by talking. Mature Te does this, which is most likely found in Te parent. Basically the opposite of Te critic and Demon lmao

[@prschuster]

I am fascinated by conspiracy theories and how people get hooked by them. They see a small piece of the puzzle and think they have it all figured out. They then make up the missing pieces without realizing how incongruous they are. More often than not, they think a small cabal is controlling everything without anyone leaking any of the vital secrets. This makes people easy marks for charlatans and demagogues.

[@justcallmejon22]

I relate to your fascination when it's topics that aren't harmful such as the world being flat. It really does become a problem when it radicalizes people so we're on the same page ✊

[@user-qr6eb4jg9n]

It is entirely possible that a small cabal of people could keep intergenerational secrets for decades or even centuries. Even entities as large as the US government or the USSR, very rarely had leaks of vital intelligence. The information kept in the Vatican by the Catholic Church, has been kept classified for almost 2000 years. Any group wielding sufficient power, can keep secrets for however long they wish. I'm surprised that you would not have considered this. Claiming that a small cabal of people is not keeping secrets and controlling the planet, sounds like something someone with a vested interest in keeping a conspiracy secret would claim.

[@oh-dizzy8791]

Superb content Jon esp. the final comment on the pride of isolation. Isolation is detrimental. MBTI is a tool for personal growth and the target is to evolve and as much as possible, challenge self-limiting beliefs. I also dislike this, 'that's just my personality, deal with it,' attitude. MBTI has propelled me to further self-acceptance, compassion and tolerance that I extend to other types as well. "Much of what we call personality is not a fixed set of traits, only coping mechanisms a person acquired in childhood." -Dr. Gabor Maté - As growing adults, we have the ability to have a more expansive personality over time. MBTI has a lot to give in a way that it allows you to appreciate who you are while empowering you to strive to become better. Isn't that what Personal development is all about? Also, the ENNEAGRAM integration into MBTI is interesting! What do you think? Thank so much Jon! More power to you, Mr. Accuracy !👑

[@justcallmejon22]

I always love hearing from other people who believe in the importance of self-improvement. In regards to enneagram and MBTI, I think it's an Apples to Orange comparison. As long as there's the understanding that both systems operate under different rule sets, I don't see a problem with it. More information/data is always better ✊

[@jenniferhanses]

Why would I remember things that aren't special? Lots of reasons. 1) I need to retain information on the patterns of possibility that are most likely to happen. How am I supposed to predict the future if I don't know what the most likely and obvious outcomes are of every given action? 2) Remembering is easier than studying. I did almost no studying in my entire academic career. I just remembered it. All of it. I don't have an eidetic memory, but I do have a really good one. I remembered everything, and did as much homework as possible during school hours so that I could spend the rest of my time doing whatever I wanted. (Reading mostly, and in college, spending time with friends). 3) Not sure why INTJs aren't supposed to be into history. I have a history degree. A museum was my second home. History is all about seeing the patterns and connections in things. Once you see those patterns and connections, you can predict the present much more accurately. Though it's often frustrating when you see people making the same mistakes over and over. It's hypothesized that a lot of the American Founding Fathers were INTJs, and one of their biggest concerns in making a new government was not repeating the mistakes they could see in governments of the past. That's why they did what they did in making our own government. They did their best using data about the past to predict potential issues in the future and guard against them. Another good source for patterns, btw, is literature. Because people want to be the heroes they read about or see on the screen. This potential insight into people's desires makes it easier to anticipate their reactions and maybe give them the right little push to move them in the direction you want them to go because they want to live up to their ideal. 4) For me, personally, it's been remarked on that I, my INTJ sister, my ISFJ sister, and my ISTJ mother all have the same memory style. My sister's bridesmaid was staying with the rest of us in a very packed house for her wedding, and we were recounting some of the better stories or people we knew, and she observed that we all had the same mannerisms. I should probably point out that we don't even all get along that well. But there are such things as a family culture, and I think the same manner of storytelling was also passed on by my ISFJ grandmother. We apparently have a distinctive oral history storytelling style. We could blame it on the ISXJs, or it may go deeper than that. I'm not sure. I only know that I agreed with my sister's friend when she pointed it out, though I just thought of it as a normal storytelling style that everyone had. But my INTJ sister and I are not less INTJs for having picked up this family oral memory style and finding value in it. 5) Sometimes it's just easier to connect with dead people. it's that whole introvert thing where live people running around run down your battery. But you can go to a graveyard and be in the quiet on a walk, and when you're in the mood, read tombstones, and then try to picture the people and the time and what they were like and feel connection to the past. And you can read historical deeds of dead people and their words of wisdom or learn from their mistakes and they're not around to protest your judgments or impose on you past when you want them to stay. You've always seemed to be a particularly social INTJ, so maybe you've never felt like doing that. But sometimes I like the company of the dead. They won't stab you in the back, and if you get foolish and start romanticizing them, you can just enjoy your foolishness for a little bit and not have to worry about consequences rather than dealing with a real person where you have to redirect your thoughts to the facts and reality because misjudging them would be bad for you both. Anyway, the past is the basis for all the webs of patterns I see stretching out into the future. Everything is built on the past. Ignoring it or only looking at its extremes are going to mean your predictions are entirely unreliable because they don't account for the most mundane aspects of reality. They way you're dismissing the past, it's like saying that every time an INTJ wants to build a birdhouse, we first have to invent the saw to cut some lumber, then some sandpaper to smooth the lumber, then the nail, and then the hammer, and then finally we can build that birdhouse. And when we go to sleep and wake the next morning, we're going to have to start all over again with inventing the saw to cut some wood. That's just not a reasonable way to go about things. Re: Connection and being misunderstood. I'm not familiar with these other content creators, but I definitely agree that "being misunderstood" sucks. It sucks so much. You try to help people because you can see they're in pain and you can see what is causing them pein and you can end up being rejected. Which is insane when you consider that you would think these people would really like the things that are hurting them to stop hurting them. I mean, I'm sure there's other things they'd also like in life, but stopping the pain would be a priority, you would think. It's a lot easier to do other things after "Step 1, stop the things that are hurting me." But no. And you just have to let them be or help them in spite of themselves, and then they hate you for it. There's also just having a polite and vaguely interesting conversation with some new people because you were feeling social, and then you say one thing and suddenly they hate you because you were being genuine and gave a real reaction instead of the polite pleasantries they wanted.. And so the road closes down to making new friends. Of course, it probably wouldn't have worked out anyway, but ... And the very worst is when there's an immediate danger and people aren't listening to you. You can be as clear as saying something like "Don't step in the bear trap" and they will still step in the bear trap and you have to wonder if there's something wrong with your grasp of language because to you, you couldn't have been any clearer. That said, dude, don't start believing you're going to die alone. You've got a huge group of friend in INTJ terms, and that probably means you're on the right track to meeting the person for you just because you have a wide net of contacts from everything you've ever said here. And on the flip side, we all do die alone, locked in our own heads. If anything us Ni types have a leg up on everyone else. We're used to our own company when things are bad. Though I'm barely a year past watching my father die slowly of cancer, so the experience has left its scars on me. In the end, none of us could reach him, and he was so scared. And it was so frustrating because there was nothing to be done about it. My family did show up from him regularly. My mother barely left his side. And he was still very very alone. So I think the dying alone thing is something best sorted out some other way because it will probably happen no matter what path you go down.

[@Lowdermoomoo]

I have eidetic memory and sometimes it’s a pain cause I can’t get rid of certain memories that are not pleasant. My husband doesn’t like it either cause he says I “remember every argument we’ve ever had and what it was about, down to what underwear you were wearing and what you ate for lunch” 😩 and I’m over here like “I just remember because you kept talking and I had a wedgie from this specific underwear, and I was trying to focus on the very serious conversation we were having and I didn’t wanna pull my wedgie out in the middle of you crying”

[@jenniferhanses]

@@Lowdermoomoo LOL for the wedgie. You have my sympathy and understanding on the bad memories. I have my own bad memories and traumas that haunt me. I would hate to have extra details on them stuck in my head beyond what's already there. But I do think everyone ends up with some memories that haunt them. You're only alone in level of detail, not in situation.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Interesting observation. I am still on my quest to find out my true type but I know my Si is terrible. My ISFP, ISTJ, INFP classmates had a story time talk. They had to tell their experience of something weird or scary that happened to them in the past. Kinda like a horror story time. They remembered the sequence of their past events and had a good flow when they tell it to each other. When it’s my turn, I can’t think of anything. That Si is not there. I could use an N function to make up a story instead of my past but I chose not to. Interesting observation I think.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Type unsure but my INFP mom have a strong tertiary Si and it’s kind of annoying when she tells me about my childhood when I didn’t ask her to tell me that. I then told her: why do you always talk about the past? I am scared of her and kind of avoided her although my Fi makes me a bit guilty so I try to bring up other conversations . I felt bad again and I also try to give her advice and told her how to strengthen her inferior Te. I am glad I helped her.

[@RaidenShogun..]

For me if I really try to touch that Si, it would be the bad memories like how bad I acted in the past or how much of a mess I was, how I had hurt many people before . Now I’m trying to be a better person and grow up. The past is in the past.

[@menohandle]

I'm now so used to people thinking I'm dumb enough not to understand a lot of things since I question why to arrive at conclusion .

[@justcallmejon22]

I conciously play dumb so people explain themselves more 😅

[@shemac1482]

My boyfriend is an ISTP and is always pointing out my Ni by letting me know that "I think way too much" lol. I cant help it. Its a reflex to me. Im also a turbulent INTJ and very anxiety driven.

[@justcallmejon22]

I usually respond to that comment with, "You don't think enough!", but jokingly 😅

[@hopebe303]

I'm not one to disparage someone for going on their own journey of self; who am I to judge, you know? However, I become deeply upset when information is abused or manipulated in such a way as to mischaracterize reality. I believe people have a responsibility for both what they produce and what they consume. Misinformation, or mischaracterization of information can really damage the operating environment, erode confidence and trust, and drown out genuine, informative arguments and insights. And yeah, I agree with your rant Jon, planning is a survival coping mechanism, for sure.

[@justcallmejon22]

I don't understand how people can be okay with profiting off of lying to people (and I used to be a Marketer!). I always chose the team that I believed in and made sure to keep our credibility by removing all known inaccuracies, it just never feels right to lie. Anyways, extra rant over, thank you for validating my feelings ❤

[@roughrosa]

Ni in short, will find ‘meaning’, ‘connection’ or similar ‘concept’ from all the rambling topics. That’s the substance we try to get to. We manage to go back and forth and tie them or tighten them into one theme in our heads so that we can make the final hypothesis. We don’t lose the ‘string’ that connects. All the jumping from topic to topic are just scenarios and patterns that we have to express and organise as we are trying to make sense. Without these patterns we can’t operate because it feels like we can’t make accurate predictions. We use all the stored data in our heads. Sometimes we can’t explain these patterns in full, but know they are there, hence the ‘intuition’.

[@milah368]

Thank you for adressing the misinformation❤ Using your bike analogy: Question: Which bike is useful? Ni vision: analize discard and pick based on data (Se provided or Te provided) Ne vision: what if I choose X thing instead of a bike? 😂 Ni is deep and loves symbolism too. You are right, being misunderstood is crippling because it is something u can't control and to a "mastermind type" is a way to be "defenless". That is y I searched about personality and found mbti. Like: wth is wrong with me? Why I can't connect with people I love? I don't care about people I don't know, but why I was hurting unknowingly to the ones that I love? So that has been the journey. And yes.I don't fully typist either because of that. I hope health and wealth for you and your family

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you for the warm wishes, I hope the same for you and yours as well ❤

[@mauritsbol4806]

16:05 as an Ne dom, this would be interesting. I do not recall really talking to an INTJ. But this would be kind of Uno reverse carding me. There is this really funny relationship with me and Ni. I can do it. I can make weird connections, but i can't follow other people when they make these connections. That is, it is also Ti/Te. When i hear this i get 404 error as it is a procedural violation as Ti comes before Te, and Ti instantly wants to make 10 different connections, which will take me about one hour to disect all permutations. Meantime i have difficulty in turning this off and to access making connections through Te. Again i can do it when i lead a conversation, but i can't do it when i follow a conversation. I need the control to preempt every contingency. That is why you tend to see ENTP's lead conversations. It is so they don't have to deal with making connections. It is actually quite a weakness of theirs, but not when they initiate it themselves.

[@justcallmejon22]

The connection part is what I appreciate about high Ne-users. It's a double edge sword having Ni because sometimes it takes forever to find explain our thoughts because we've lose the audience somewhere along the way. Then we have to backtrack to figure out where someone was lost and then when we get back to that part, it might lose the essence of the original message 😂

[@NancySmith-k9m]

Thank you for a clearly thought out, concise, and cogent video. I am new to the world of MBTI, and your video helped me understand some of the information made so confusing by other presenters. I look forward to engaging with your other vids. I can follow how you present information and easily understand the points you are making. When some others present info, it just sounds like so much word salad.

[@justcallmejon22]

Welcome to the MBTI world! I'm always happy to hear that I'm able to be helpful 😁

[@Phillia_crochet]

Your explanation is so on point. One of the way I got my Ni practiced is by finding stuff for my mom everyday. She's very likely an ESTP. She only tunneled vision into some of her sensory inputs and thought that the options she saw are the only one. The reasons I could find her stuff so quickly most of the time, even when I had been away from home for half a year, is because I naturally come up with more options and scenarios outside of what she recalled then narrow them down till I find her stuff. If all the options I came up with didn't work, coming up with more options and seeking more inputs to fact check is my instictive process while she still only revels in the few options she came up with. 😅

[@justcallmejon22]

Sounds like you were very helpful as a child, I hope she appreciated it 🙂

[@Phillia_crochet]

@@justcallmejon22 Thank you.

[@senquidam6318]

This video helped me alot. Thank you from my deepest heart!

[@justcallmejon22]

I got you ✊

[@pavithraselvaraj4]

Thank you for making these videos. I really do appreciate it. THANK YOU.

[@justcallmejon22]

Glad you like them 🙂

[@angelaf6688]

Great video as always!

[@justcallmejon22]

Thank you 🙏

[@lotusshrine]

this video is the first intj video that makes sense. this is my first time searching for intj because i have been mistyped for a looong time (as an infp/isfp) that i looked down on mbti (i kinda still not a fan because how rigid it is. the type names don't make any sense if you explain it with cognitive functions) i kinda became a victim of this because of how good my fi is (and how bad i procrastinate). but no one knows i learned it🥲 this is actually such a new perspective that the popular intj contents don't seem to like (or even understand) to tell, so im so so thankful. p.s: i'm not 100% sure i am an intj but this type makes the most sense to me

[@lotusshrine]

gonna binge watch everything on your accounts and maybe i can like mbti a little better lmaoo thank you for the contentt. new sub👍

[@justcallmejon22]

Welcome (back) to the community! Whatever type you end up being, don't forget that MBTI is only a tool for self-discovery. Have fun and enjoy the journey 😃

[@secondhalf791]

Lol 😂 dude the list of possiblity and cause of thinking that the individual is an intj was hilarious

[@justcallmejon22]

Trust me, you'll see it more often now when you watch other "INTJ" content creators 😂

[@grumpyschnauzer]

I’ve been mistyped by content creators as an INTJ but I know I’m an INFJ. It’s frustrating because people think INFJs can’t appear cold and detached even though we have Fe. The nature of Ni in tandem with Ti is cold and detached. Further, we don’t always feel comfortable sharing our complete Ni-selves with others and IF we’ve gone through a lot of crazy experiences attracting other strange people, we will learn to reign in that Fe. In addition, I prefer to refer to my conclusions and “predictions” as hypothesis. It’s more accurate. I completely agree with you that the lower Ni is on the stack, the more someone is likely to be a conspiracist (I see this as a haphazard use of Ni). I’m thinking unhealthy ESTPs. I had a schizoaffective ESTP dad so I developed strong Ni in a way that worked around him and I hid a lot out of fear. So far, the only type I think understands Ni-doms the most are INTPs and ENTPs. My INTP bf was the one who told me my Ni likely developed in order to fill in gaps around my parents lack of sense and reliable information. My parents were very charismatic people which also helped me to develop Fe. Friends were always so surprised at the way our parents treated my siblings and I behind closed doors. Btw, I have an ESFJ mom, ESTP dad, and I think my sisters are ESFP and ENTJ… I’m on the fence with my ESFP sister (possibly an INFP/ISFP) because she’s endured the most trauma so it’s not as clear. I also have the most conflict with her and was the most at odds or kept the biggest distance from my dad. My ex-husband is an ISTP and he really didn’t get Ni. Also, not a huge fan of Joyce Meng for obvious reasons. Thanks for sharing rich and accurate information representing us honestly. And YES! TWO OPPOSING TRUTHS CAN BOTH ME TRUE OR UNTRUE AT THE SAME TIME! THANK YOU!!! Yes! We must know why other options are invalid to know what is the true valid option. This is so last par of your video felt passionate and true and I felt the same way every time I got mistyped which is why I made it my mission to prove them all contradictory (low key of course because I fear persecution lol). The first content creator who guessed my correct type left me feeling cathartic and “adjusted” within myself after everyone who guessed wrong.

[@nateo200]

A lot of people think Fe = warm and friendly and Te = cold and mean. Fe can be just as calculating as Te its just more ground up then top down.

[@valerievankerckhove9325]

The premise of this video makes me laugh. I also don't understand why anybody would want to pretend to be an INTJ. I'm an INTJ and my competences are basically min-maxed: I love to analyse. It just comes naturally. But the thing is, the stuff that I've really spent years and decades researching and thinking over, once the "solution" comes, it becomes "obvious", like a game of connect-the-dots after the dots are connected. And I don't know about you, but eventually I start to feel stupid for stating the obvious, so I don't bother talking about them most of the time. Also, as I said I'm min-maxed. One of my min parts is social competence. Two of my colleagues sitting right across me were engaged in a cold war, and I didn't even notice until each of them, plus one of my superiors, individually came to talk to me to ask for my opinion. Plus, my favourite thing to do during a party is to hide in the bathroom. In my case, though this is not necessarily an INTJ thing, my memory is also terrible, or should I say my memory filter is too strong, I can't remember any daily trivia... Did I mention that I was stuck in a NiFi loop for my entire childhood? Ef that. On the bright side, I've also resolved all my existential questions thanks to being stuck in there so long.

[@justcallmejon22]

Happy to hear that you're finally out of your Ni-Fi loop ✊

[@Pinkywinkykinky]

'why would we be proud of something we naturally do?' in bragging about planning, yeah feel that as an ne dom 'HEY GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE A SPIRALING THOUGHT PROCESS!'

[@justcallmejon22]

HEY GUYS, DO YOU KNOW THAT I CAN'T OPERATE WITHOUT A PLAN?!! 😂

[@Pinkywinkykinky]

Dad asked me a simple question of what other toppings i'd want on my burger but i'm so indecisive i literally just thought out loud to myself in real time like it was a serious question@@justcallmejon22

[@vidishakumar8685]

The way I've always thought of MBTI is that it's like an algorithm for the program of personality. It isn't what the personality actually is, when embedded in the social simulacrum, but it does illustrate an outline of the same. In the case of INTJ, I think of their dom. Ni as a self-enclosed sys. of memes (i.e., opinions, beliefs, preferences, etc.) uniquely retrofitted to their aux. Te, so that the material world becomes a scaffolding to be moulded to the shape of the ideal(istic) world.

[@kelll3294]

Ty as I find people want to be INTJ as Mastermind label and least represented in general population. It is seriously exhausting attempting to explain reasons why and how come to decisions and actions especially if work in a massive systems as context important.

[@RaidenShogun..]

My ISFP classmate uses Ni to plan what she wants to eat at Starbucks on a Friday. That is very funny. She is also very ambitious and in highschool, she wants to be a chiropracter.

[@justcallmejon22]

One of the reason why I love Se users, they remind how to enjoy the little things in life like Starbucks 😂

[@maryangelicreserva9907]

Finally confirmed 😂, that's what they call it diay hahahaha, been using Ni since early days .

[@farfaraway4285]

I hate the mastermind title for the exactly same reasons. But I don’t like us being called architects either. We do not just plan, we also build. We focus, we target, we resolve, we come with plans B,C and D to achieve the goal and cover all exits. I feel like we are some kind of “Problem solver with vision and contingency plan”. Is there a single word for it?

[@justcallmejon22]

I'm not sure what word works best but I'm okay with the title architect 🙂

[@RaidenShogun..]

Ni doms don’t simply conclude something without knowing other perspectives. They also make sure what they conclude is correct and accurate. That reminds me of a content creator who I think is a fake Ni dom. she made a video about differences between istp and intj. Somewhere in the video, she says: istp wear comfortable clothing and intj only wear black. (It does sound like a stereotype to me). She then didn’t explain why she thinks that way (I can’t really remember exactly what she said, I think). I think she is very confident in her conclusion and added that in the video. It’s quite a big channel I think.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Her channel have around 24k subs. She also said that intj don’t have physical hobbies. She didn’t give an explanation on why she thinks that is. Sus. My aunt is intj and she does boxing once a week as a hobby, and at the same time, to stay fit and connect with her friends. Anyone can have physical hobbies! Even intp infp and infj!!!

[@justcallmejon22]

I eye roll so hard when I see those type of videos 😒

[@chiefbeef5590]

This was a fire video good explanation that basketball analogy is definitely going to hurt some feelings tho😂 but its true

[@justcallmejon22]

Glad you enjoyed the video and viewers will be find or at least get over it 😂

[@jonat96-hj1sh]

Its not obvious for us, that we plan all the time. I even got tested as ISTJ because I answered questions like "I plan everything in detail beforehand" with no. Only through MBTI I got aware, that I really do think about stuff before doing anything. (and I feel very stressed, if I have to react spontaneously without thinking it through)

[@justcallmejon22]

We really do plan so much that it doesn't even feel like planning anymore. I also think that one of the reason is because people typically talk about long-term planning when it's reference in MBTI conversations and ignore the daily plans.

[@macronomicus]

Its sad that some dont embrace their authentic self, absolutely every "type" has value, all humans are amazing beings brimming with potential! The value of MBTI is seeing our flow, building upon & working with that, not to hamstring ourselves with some ego satisfying notions of what we think we must be... those are fleeting anyway... our cognitive function preference is a vast neural network (including non-local mind!), thats not going to change on a mood or whim... lol! INFJ-A male here. 😜

[@justcallmejon22]

I agree, my INFJ friend! Everyone is amazing and stereotypes are just the beginning of the conversation ✊

[@macronomicus]

@@justcallmejon22 Maybe pokemon confused people, they want to be "rare". lol Jokes aside, as you expressed in one of your other videos so well, the rarity is actually more likely to be uncomfortable & difficult than lead to any sensations of feeling "special". Thankfully we IN* do actually enjoy our alone time, because we get plenty of it.😅

[@Michael-lr9nv]

There’s a sing word line in a song by a Korean band called Dreamcatcher: “Survive… survive…” It’s the one thing only another INFJ would understand

[@coolbreez]

So true, I didn't know I had Ni till I got to know I am INTJ.

[@justcallmejon22]

It's as natural as breathing ✊

[@musicalone8123]

You really need those video dividers that divide, time and label different topics into clickable sections within your video.

[@eighthappyfish]

Oh snap.😮 3:40 Infj child of an Istp father. I definitely made better predictions. We had a very rocky relationship. I don’t remember specifics, but I remember feeling bad often. I was naive and trying to be helpful. He was mean and I didn’t understand why.

[@eighthappyfish]

16:46 ohhh. So istp father was adamant that I alway had malicious intent. So much so that I started to get confused. TIL: it wasn’t me. Its been 49 yrs I thought I was such a horrible person growing up! Istp cannot see any other option and combined with low Fe and limited EQ its likely he is going off how he would act. Literal projection of his own bad intents. Sincere thanks for this!

[@justcallmejon22]

I hope your relationship with your father improved. It took me us a while to get there but my ISTP father and I finally arrived to an understanding, so it is possible with enough time and effort ✊

[@Chebab-Chebab]

I used to get INTJ, but now I get INFJ. It's not an achievement; it's just what the test results give me.

[@justcallmejon22]

Read about the difference between the cognitive functions Te and Fe. It should become clear which one you are after ✊

[@Chebab-Chebab]

@@justcallmejon22 Any links? Thanks.

[@lazyscholar7932]

The Ni "essence" you mentioned, is this causality? What makes a bike an operable bike? It has to have the necessary parts. If it doesn't, then it is not operable. The Ni is the framework used to make inferences about subjects based on how similar or disimilar it is the the ideal form. I am looking for causality when people describe social problems to me. If you describe a conflict, I will think about the opposing sides and their values, resources, and potential allies. I can tell you who in the office will get validated and who will end up fired. Instead of an idealized form like the bike, I look for win conditions in social settings or I can forecast turnover intention or termination based on the domains I feel are the most impactful in a work places. I'm pretty sure what i'm describing is Ni. But I'm less sure if this is Ni-Te seeing a logical patten or Ni-Fe that is intuned with the social pattern. I need more cases in different settings to be sure. But I do it so often and quickly that I forget to clock my wording and thought process. It helps that usually people want to vent about their work issues and not problem solve, so they help me keep track. 😅

[@alonwouterse7681]

I'm an ENFJ (for reference), so I might be placing too much value on my Fe in answering this. From the vibe of your word usage (which is not enough info for me to answer) it seems like a more strategic/impersonal approach due to words like resources, allies. I would personally not use these kind of words because that's not how I look at people. Obviously I am unsure whether you do use this yourself or whether this language is used so others might be able to understand better (or I guess both but then it becomes irrelevant). It points towards a Thinker type to me based on very little information and many assumptions because "comment section". I'd say there's probably very different reasons as to why an Ni thinker and an Ni feeler would predict who is getting terminated in the office. For instance on Ni thinker might predict this so they know better how to efficiently pend their time, as spending time on people or ideas that are getting terminated isn't effective. Ni feelers would probably do it more from a perspective of trying to prevent things from escalating and seeing how all (good intentioned people) can collaborate and utilize their talents in order to create an atmosphere of cooperation that leads to better outcomes for all (and less overall suffering), etc.

[@lazyscholar7932]

@alonwouterse7681 That's where I am right now! The wording is from my inner world, I usually have to filter it for the person I am talking to. I forecast turnover or termination when listening about workplace conflict because I see the patterns of how misunderstandings often escalate into conflicts. I want the organization and its managers to do better at coordinating people using a shared understanding if what caused the misunderstanding. I try to explain to people how things like information asymmetry and uncertainty can turn a misunderstanding or disagreement into conflict between different groups of people.

[@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes]

@@lazyscholar7932 Watch my video about "INFJ INTJ differences", if you are not sure about your type. Maybe it can help.

[@lazyscholar7932]

@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes The video did not help. You did state differences, but I did not pick up on the nuance related to the differences in how Fe>Te looks vs. Te>Fe. It makes sense that INFJ are awkward in dealing with Te, but how does a mature one with Te relevant education and training look like? I need to know the difference between a high Te user coming from an Fe environment/upbringing/motivation for growth and a high Fe user with an academic career and training to exert Te more effectively. What is the difference between a Fe user trying to use Te and a Te user tapping into their Fe?

[@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes]

@@lazyscholar7932 I can understand my video might not help for INFJ, because it's explained in an Te way. Thing that INFJ might don't understand, don't believe or have difficulty to integrate these informations. They try to understand the Te informations, through the lens of Fe. Also because my explanation are Te more oriented on the functions, things, functioning themselves, than on how it manifest on the behavior of people (thing that surely INFJ prefer) Maybe the perception of Carl Jung who describe the behavior of people, instead of the functions themselves can better help : Fe : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWraiJZprKaCZ5o Te : kzbin.info/www/bejne/goPcYYiIYtmafZo Both Te 2nd & Fe 2nd , have difficulty to tap into their Fe 7th or Te 7th (tend to make mistakes with), it's surely manifested with the shy, unstable, weird, Fi 3rd or Ti 3rd. "What is the difference between a Fe user trying to use Te and a Te user tapping into their Fe?" (I think I answered many times to this in video 😢) _Fe trying to Te: You (probably INFJ) right now trying to get an answer : You prefer ask to people Fe, instead to Te doing research by using tools (technology & things : google for example). Having difficulty to understand/believe our Te explanations, because it's perceived through the lens of Fe. As a result trying to understand it in your Ti way (your 1st comment) _Te trying to Fe : Me who took 1 year to take action to write a text to thanks a psychologist. Unable to flirt & to express my emotions, or to say thanks, hello, never say goodbye, or do it in a very Fi 3rd shy and weird way. The 2 we tend to devalue it whereas we are good at it, give us inspiration, comfortable, it help us The 7 is really something, we don't understand, we may be afraid by it, we have to learn it from zero, we don't want to do it, we find it useless, it's not our thing at all, the last thing we want to do, the last resort, it stress us, make us nervous, uncomfortable, create problems in life, we prefer ignore it, it doesn't help us. I didn't want to answer here initially. I thought my videos were very clear, and detailed to be understood by everyone. I even explained the differences of each position (1-8) in other videos. I did my best, I can't do better.

[@ArcanaForceXXI]

Eyy! Having a phase of diving deep into MBTI again (doing nothing else for the last three days haha). I was wondering the same, looking for good INFJ youtubers and other information, whom really is one and who maybe not. The content of one I have in mind, who has looots of followers, just doesn't fit at all for me. I totally understand you not wanting to name fake INFJs/INTJs, but could you point me to any INFJ content that you see as good and true? Much love!

[@justcallmejon22]

Sorry for the late reply but the few INFJs that popped into my head are Frank James (his earlier videos), Wenzes, Amy Lyne, or Clay Arnall. Joyce Meng is an INFJ as well but she rarely talk in her own videos. Enjoy the videos!

[@Brakka86]

🤷‍♂ idk in MBTI I always test IXTP on every test including the official one. In comparison to most people I seem to enjoy philosophy quite a lot and constantly think about abstract topics, come up with my own ideas and perspectives. This seems to annoy people who just want to enjoy life. In socionics tho I was told I'm LSI because I'm deliberate and don't shy from conflict or asserting myself in opposition.. kinda skeptical about that tho. In Enneagram I'm a self preservation 5 in terms of core motivation.

[@justcallmejon22]

Your actual type doesn't matter. MBTI, Socionics, and Enneagram are all just tools to help you learn more about yourself. Continue your journey of self-discovery and it'll all eventually become clear. It took me a while to realize I'm an INTJ, so take your time ✊

[@Wolldog3]

The way I have recognized it is probably offensive to some people, but I noticed quite a few similarities between INTJ and the symptoms of high functioning autism. (Keep in mind that I'm INTJ) Not understanding or expressing emotions properly. Always wanted a best friend but never had one. Noticing the tiny details that most people skipped. Being overly stimulated by sudden loud noises. Repetitive behavior. Hate eye contact. Unaware of or not knowing how to handle other people's emotions. Taking things literally. Being blunt. Need routine and order. Hate small talk. Prefer to text or email versus call someone. I get that not everyone is the same and just like autism, not every INTJ has these features. But I also think that if you compare it to autism over the "Mastermind", it takes the coolness out of it and people are less likely to claim something that is stereotypically a hindrance over a glorified title. Granted I could just in fact be autistic but I think if you can't acknowledge the similarities, you probably are not actually INTJ. Data has no bias and an INTJ is aware of that. My son is diagnosed autistic and a high school honor student interested in working with robotics. I'm a correctional officer that turns keys and follows a very loose schedule. I would consider him the Mastermind between the two of us. But personality wise, he is very close to me in structure, routine, planning, habits, and personal interactions. The only difference is his anxiety is severe and crippling while I can be scared shitless, have a stone cold expression, and still do whatever I need to do regardless. But it definitely needs to be addressed that INTJ should not be glorified because of its rarity or titles. It does in fact have downsides that make you sit in a dark room alone wondering why you are the way you are some nights. It's not walking around thinking you are Lex Luther and Tony Stark's brain child with Batman as an emotional support animal.

[@justcallmejon22]

I agree 100%. I mentioned in a previous video that autistic people have asked me if I was autistic before. It didn't offend me, it made me look up whether I was or not and it turns out INTJs have a lot of overlapping qualities. I agree that if we were to change the glorified 'Mastermind' title to something less appealing, fewer people will mistype 😅

[@Wolldog3]

@@justcallmejon22 I find it ironic that people will mistype to feel like they belong to our special personality. When an actual INTJ is continuously in a state of wanting to belong to any other group and actively segregating themselves from the world because people are exhausting. 😂 That's actually why I had to steer myself away from spiritual groups. People will do damn near anything to fit in, even if it doesn't make sense. A lady told me that she was a turtle in her past life and was eaten by an alligator. So I was following what she was saying until she said that in the past life before that she was a zebra and was eaten by a tiger. So I asked her how the African zebra met the Asian Tiger? Was literally stated just like that. No accusations, no argument. Just the question. Never talked to me again. But to get to my point, it took me years to figure out why I am this way. And it never felt like I was superior to people. Most of the time it was "wtf is wrong with me? Why do I say something that wasn't intended to be rude, and make people upset? Why are people always asking me what is wrong, when I'm perfectly comfortable in that moment? Why is it when I am trying to help someone, it sounds like I am berating to them?" INTJ is a double edged sword. They sound cool until you accidentally cut something you didn't intend to with it. Your channel has helped me with a lot of self reflection and personal development. I'm glad that I don't have to believe that I'm a Mastermind. I took the test without researching any of the types. I thought I cheated or messed up when I got INTJ somehow. I'm glad that I've gotten over the imposter syndrome and been able to figure it out. If you only help 1 INTJ out of 10 mistypes, speaking from experience, keep it up man. You've helped me with a lot.

[@RaidenShogun..]

My aunt is intj and she have some autistic traits. Idk if she is autistic or not cuz I think it’s for a professionals job to diagnose people.

[@TatianaLMartin]

"I don't plan my route to go shopping to be efficient.... I don't leave my house unless I have A PLAN"...😂😂😂😂😂 OMG I FELT THIS! Amazon Grocery is my best friend.... I don't even have to leave the house anymore 😅.

[@justcallmejon22]

Door dash was my best friend for a while 🙂

[@danishbutter1847]

i use Instacart

[@Reegish]

I don’t think that the bush to boat comparison is as bad as implied. There are tons of different species of plants that could be classified as “bushes”, and each has its own needs and survival adaptations, and they even can have different uses.

[@justcallmejon22]

A bush is just a bush to me so I'm dumb 😅

[@incrediblegamer2.o930]

Well I was the most difficult to understand and yeah even my parents never understood me , that's why I never told them what do I think on any topic cuz whenever I did , it ended in a clash or people thinks I am crazy but except them , people are attracted to me for my deep understanding on multiple things and direct approach to the peoples who are wrong . I mean I am a bit bad at relationships even if I tried everything to hold onto , but if they aren't connected to me they feel i am someone gifted. Bro I am really alone but my brother is also an INTJ . We both have massive goals , exactly same goal , we both are working together on that goal . No one knows about our ambitions and goals cuz ik they will never understand. Yeah it's lonely to be an INTJ , wherever you see inside yourself , you will see darkness and emptiness. But I never let my darkness take control cuz I know I don't wanna be a bad person . My type is INTJ 1w9 sx1 tritype - 145 .

[@justcallmejon22]

I love that you added a splash of Fi onto your comment. I'm rooting for both you and your brother ✊

[@carynm.4662]

Thank you for this. If everyone is an INTJ, then nobody is. It is rare. I think mean people just use their "INTJ" as an excuse to be mean because they HEARD that INTJ are villianous.

[@justcallmejon22]

I agree with that 💯 that people are just looking for a way to justify their nasty behavior

[@uwumarii]

It bothers me how people classify themselves as this rare, special unicorn mbti personality just to show off and romanticize it but the real ones deal with the struggles that comes with it.