Why is BODYWEIGHT TRAINING different than LIFTING WEIGHTS??

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[@joshbuckingham6121]

He's posting more frequently YES

[@josephlunn6]

Exactly what I was thinking 💯

[@DA-dw2iq]

Yeah now we want Kris Karsson to show this frequency

[@ZinduZatism]

body weight is great always flexible and agile, while weight, mass that u dnt need, stiff body, that is what i believe, other may have different opinion

[@yasirkhan969]

Damn I would do the same press and show off

[@Fullepicdiamond]

Absolutely stupid arguments

[@MrBeckenhimself]

Except calisthenics is actually inferior to weight training and it ain't even close.

[@NaturalHypertrophy]

Easy fix: Do both for complete development

[@lendariomarkin9243]

I agree he's mistaken

[@TheHYENA87]

Canal de um genius well the other thing to consider to how he looks, dude looks great, but is still quite small... if you want some decent hypertrophy do some bodybuilding, but absolutely mix both! There is no denying the strength gains from body weight.

[@mohammedubed7000]

@@lendariomarkin9243 he isn't mistaken u just don't know him.

[@iamlegend3674]

Bruh I see you everywhere bodybuilding powerlifting calisthenics strongman and now I've yet to see you in olympic weightlifting

[@iliveinsideyourhouse3943]

I likes to do calisthenics more.

[@rindertpersoon4322]

I also need to buy a fat pikachu to motivate me during my training...

[@ginosogoretic2276]

I do mostly calisthenics now, it made me far stronger than the last years in the gym. But I still go to the gym aswell.

[@joojotin]

Hey dude, Im very interested In calisthenics now. It seems closed chain movements are very good for muscle growth. Why is that?

[@leonardocoiro4746]

@@joojotin Same for me. The movements use your whole body, and Dominik explains it well but your nervous system is much more involved when you use more muscles, stabiliser muscles etc. compared to when you do bench press, for example.

[@joojotin]

@@leonardocoiro4746 yeah, only problem with dips is it can be painfull to shoulders

[@Skoopyghost]

My body is sometimes too beat up from weight lifting so I switch to gyminast rings. What's wrong with both.

[@Philipp_-cp2xw]

With 14 I started going to the Gym and did Bodybuilding till I was 18 years old. In that time I build some good muscle mass but I wasn't that strong. I could do like 12 Pull ups and like 20 Dips or so and my Bench max was exactly 100kg for 1 rep. Then with 18 I started doing pure Calisthenics and weighted Calisthenics and my strength exploded like crazy. My weight kept being the same like before (+- 80kg) but I became more shredded and stronger while keeping my old muscle mass. Now I am 20 years old and can do dips + 80kg for like 8 reps and pull ups +65kg for 8 reps. I never tested my max reps in both but I would guess my pull ups to max 30 reps and my dips at like 45 reps or so. Now I can bench 100kg for like 10 reps so my max would be around 130-140kg I guess. I can do a full front lever(18 seconds), victorian on p-bars(8 seconds), muscle ups(14 reps), one arm pull ups(3 per arm), backlever(18 seconds) and a v-sit(8 seconds). I am 184cm tall and weight 82kg, so I am not that big but I am strong as fuck. Calisthenics is definitely great for building strength while building a beautiful body.

[@ahanafarik2807]

bro are you self learn calistanics

[@joaqu7002]

You are a fuckin monster

[@Rods_Bar]

Both have their merit. Personally I feel whatever you enjoy the most and gets you excited to get off the couch and get working is what’s best

[@Kboges]

Exactly!

[@iwantlee9510]

Imo, bodyweight training gets boring when you get "too strong" for the exercises. Bodyweight pull-ups are great when you can "just" do 10 reps, but when you get to the point where you can do 30 it starts to just get annoying and boring, because the sets become way too long. Edit: And you reach that point very quickly when it comes to lower body exercises. The only challenging one is pistol squats, but that's not good for the knees.

[@thumbjuice1283]

@@iwantlee9510 you're forgetting about progressive overload, get a backpack, start adding water bottles every couple weeks and aim for 8 reps for 3 sets so that you get actually stronger. I bet you can't do 30 reps with the one arm pullup👀👀👀👌 ain't nobody done that yet, even then you can add weight to the one arm pull up and eventually you could have a stronger back than most strongmen

[@davepazz580]

There is no such thing as getting "too strong" for bodyweight exercises... If you are getting 30 reps of pull-ups, then you aren't doing them right... it's as simple as that. Try slowing the reps way down... go all the way up so the bar touches the chest (or at least very close to it), hold it for a few seconds by squeezing your back muscles as hard as possible in the top part before slowly descending down all the way to the bottom for another pause with absolutely *no* cheating, swinging or momentum whatsoever. Done this way, I doubt anyone is even going to make it to 8 full reps... no matter how strong you think you are. Still think that's too easy? Try doing the reps like I said but on Olympic rings or a suspension trainer (dual anchor points).

[@alexjulius69]

@@iwantlee9510 Lmao, pullups and pushups ain't the only thing in calisthenics. They're way too overrated, and yes, they're boring AF. But there's literally thousands of other exercises that you can always strive for. Planches, levers, hefestos, muscle ups, etc just to name a few. Then there's rings, which take every element to another level of difficulty. There's literally always a new move to strive for, new level of strength in calisthenics.

[@amoghpratapsingh4938]

Plz make video on how to make balance between skill training an muscle building workouts.

[@iliveinsideyourhouse3943]

I never trained skills because I have 0 interests in it.

[@bernd8608]

@@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 no one asked you

[@marekkulma9482]

@@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 I use skills as help with muscle building for example I learned iron cross to train my chest and did v-sit training to get more defined lower abs so skills can be useful

[@iliveinsideyourhouse3943]

@@marekkulma9482 I also use some skill oriented exercises likes handstand to improve my shoulder but those kind of training where bunch of skinny legs guys swinging around the bar likes a monke is not for me.

[@mrnaizguy]

You can't do both effectively at the same time. Focus on one for one training cycle and on the other during the next cycle

[@hosseinziari7666]

this is exactky what i learned when i used weights, didnt want to sit and just lift it was waste of time for me. then i found calistenics and said to myself this is what i want. its been half a year i started to train calistenics and results are amazing, calistenics became part of my life, cant wait for futur years to come💪

[@kinzcortes7484]

You mean we do L-sit pull ups right? xD lol

[@hosseinziari7666]

@@kinzcortes7484 i don't know what you like and i didn't say everyone must do calisthenics, it's depends on yourself and your preference. It's all about what makes you satisfied... (When i was younger around 10 yo i was training gymnastics and then i was fall in love with Ninjutsu and trained for 6 years, story short i got injured and left the community... It's been about ten years now I'm 26 yo, during this years i trained some bodybuilding stuff but it didn't make me satisfaction, I found calisthenics way more goddamn satisfaction even more than Ninjutsu, I'm not even looking for any competition i just wanna satisfy myself )

[@abrahammunoz1703]

Did you get jacked bro. I just started for 2 Weeks and I am almost close to completing full ROM pullups.

[@thegloriousquran1208]

@@abrahammunoz1703 where u at bro?

[@MUFFINOV]

Hope you are doing well 😎

[@9999rockey]

My routine from last 6 months push-ups, hspu , pull-ups ,one arm pull-ups , squats, core , running and swimming. And yeah it feels great no injury strength and stamina increased increased.

[@deb1847]

Did you have any pre existing injury? If yes did calisthenics made it worse or better?

[@byReZio]

Bodyweight, weighted calisthenics, weightlifting. They're all valuable. It all depends on your goal. But for most people, using all of them is the smartest way to train.

[@Yahavogdan]

Dom can you please talk about your calisthenics journey to this point?? You did some crazy stuff and had a lot of injuries,so it will be inspiring to hear about how you progressed,regressed and overcome the challenges! Thank you champ!

[@9seki]

Big like, but I like lift weights. DEADLIFT IS BEST....

[@KoffeeKev]

I do think that weights are needed for legs after you master one leg movements.

[@ralphblack]

Monk you're right

[@NoSubsWithContent]

@@KoffeeKev bruh theres only so much you can do with 1 leg, you must start adding weight to the exorcise

[@dominicward1812]

The top guys are using weights for there training. Olympic Gymnasts 🤸‍♂️ use weights so he is talking rubbish. And I know I am 3 Decades in Competitive Bodybuilding. All other sports including golf champions do weightlifting or RESISTANCE TRAINING

[@mohammedubed7000]

@@dominicward1812 U are actually rubbish. He himself do weightlifting. But he is talking about the importance of bodyweight skills and movements for arrogant dudes like you

[@alexjulius69]

I agree dude, calisthenics easily carry over to weights, for example, my bench press keeps increasing from doing purely calisthenics. There's far more to calis than pushups and pullups, when you start entering the advanced moves world -- your strength gains become ridiculous.

[@Pavle247]

If you truly want to be strong don't waste your time with bench press! -Dominik Sky

[@tonyedmondssr908]

I am 61 yrs old doing weighted Push-ups with 14lbs x 20 reps full range of motion and 14lbs x 50 reps 1/2 range of motion. 5ft7" 159lbs.

[@ScottBurnhard]

Very interesting!

[@spacedoohicky]

Body weight is also superior for people who can't afford a gym membership, or their own weights. And people that travel a lot. You can't carry a gym with you, but the weight of your body is always there where ever you go.

[@hookmasteryt]

Calisthenics is and always will be the best!

[@Mimsie]

Heavy strength training has increased my chin and pull up count since I started training heavy cable pulls, over body weight. Now I can do weighted chins and pull ups for reps as well. Do bar, do kbells, do calisthenics, do what you enjoy and helps you get consistent.

[@marquanbrand-moorehead1887]

Bodyweight is Better,

[@waibanroi]

"They have the bisep thing" 😅 that's really funny ...you're the best 💪💯

[@EriPages]

Bicep.

[@heiariiburori137]

Im 42 and i juste know now that it IS true. Bodyweight exercices IS top for health. You feel better. Weight train IS better to complète but calisthenics, gymnastique IS Top 🤙

[@saranidutta4122]

I am 14 currently and I am really loving calisthenics, doing it for 8 months, I was a bit sad in the beginning that I did not have weights or gym Access but now I know the value of calisthenics.

[@PocketRocket286]

how long dod it take to see results?

[@briansheeran4185]

Pulled the entire weight on pec deck and curl machines? With one arm? No offence, but I find that hard to believe.

[@RegiJatekokMagazin]

He did weighted chin / pull ups before, not hard to believe, when you have strength, you have also good endurance... so easy.

[@iwantlee9510]

​@@RegiJatekokMagazin that's not true. Strength and muscular endurance come from two different types of muscle fibers. There's a big difference.

[@rcem4773]

I agree with this. When I was at 102 lbs (46.2 kg), in 9th grade, I was able to bench press 135 for 7 reps just by doing push-ups with different variations. Same with the squat. Calisthenics can transfer more to weights than weights to calisthenics.

[@Ben_sul]

Wait wait wait You mean 135 ibs right?

[@schrader3393]

@@Ben_sul no

[@rumoaocot5273]

Dominik talk about how to surpass a injury!

[@bhaskarborgohaincontent9834]

He is posting almost everyday and I'm loving it

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Everything he’s saying is true calisthenics will make you strong Af it transformed me been doing calisthenics for a few years now and I pretty much look like a superhero feel like one too my entire body transformed

[@ritabanbhattacharya9038]

Much love and support from india👏👏🙏🙏

[@nicholas_thegreat5940]

Y not just do both? make the best of both worlds

[@alperenozen7582]

Even scientific articles show that the inverted row has better lat activation than the barbell row. Same thing applies push ups. They are more compound than bench press. I bet elevated pike push ups better for delts than seated dumbell press 'cause it feels more natural . Disadvantageous thing about bw exercises is progression. Everything becomes so fancy when it comes to progress the exercise. I actually don't want to do Handstand push ups 'cause I am a human. What if i cannot control myself just for a moment and fall down broke my fucking neck. It does not worth it to perform the exercise. Reward to risk ratio is too low . Look at that poor dead guy he has nice and well sculpted shoulders :D. That's why I choose exercises that I can safely perform .Weighted vest would be great solution for progression but at a degree you will reach there too . On the other hand who wants to lift ton of weight fuck it I just enjoy doing bw exercises it makes me happy and feel good. I hope everyone reach their goal in life take care of .

[@unnaturalatrophy5377]

If you learn a handstand you won't fall over and break your neck lol. Handstand is not that hard. At one point it will be as easy as standing on your feet. And even if you fall somehow, you will still not break your neck (unless you are doing handstand on a high bar or a ledge). I have fallen countless times when I was learning the handstand the worst thing that happened to me is a slight wrist pain. But that's it. You are more likely to get herniated disc doing deadlift than break your neck doing handstand push up.

[@mohammedubed7000]

U won't break ur neck doing handstand push-ups. The fear is overrated. First learn how to fall. And handstand is so easy when done with a correct execution and progression

[@geraltofrivia2570]

it's almost impossible to break your neck cause you go down in a diagonal line so if you fail, you fall on your feet.

[@jeffrodriguez6942]

I do both, but I have to say I've been getting better results working out with my body than weights. In the same way, I add extra weight to my body for harder effort.

[@rainbow-er4py]

i do body left for almst 8 months and now i start do body weight 2 weeks ago never felt this strng before its sooo different

[@pranavsingh1584]

Gym guys won't understand this important talk

[@kiyotaka269]

Olympic lifts are open kinetic chain exercises and they are extremely good

[@theman4568]

Reverse ring flyes for external rotation in calisthenics

[@joshbuckingham6121]

I was watching this video while I train V-sit

[@M0RN1N6_5T4R]

I was doing both calisthenics and weights. I was really heavy. I wanted to lose more weight before converting 100%. Well except leg day. I like doing deadlifts, weighted squats And pushing the sled. But it’s more like 75/25. I’m trying to box and it was hard to relax because certain muscles were tight like my upper back and shoulders because I would do seated rows, bent over rows, and military presses. It’s been a week and my muscles are already way more flexible. If you’re wrestling yeah weight training is beneficial and functional because you’re trying to move weight. But striking you need relaxation and flexibility.

[@HolyPowerup]

great video but I just use both I do for strength closed kinetic chain and hypertrophy I use open-chain best of both worlds EZ

[@gaetanoiuculano7895]

Body weight in combination with compound lifting . No need for machines or isolation exercises unless for a specific purpose like rehab from disability or injury!

[@pinkblue9286]

I’m not strong enough to to a lot of calisthenics movements, can’t even do one pull-up. Weight training I could do. Why is calisthenics harder for me?

[@Sensei_Gaz]

I very much agree with your views on the bench press being unimportant for non-powerlifters.

[@lieutenantundercover9329]

Omg you are so strong x) But it is the same with me but not that much weight

[@lloydwright3661]

I understand your point and kinda agree but I feel it has it's limitations, I mean I've never seen any WorldsStrongestMan athlete doing calestenics 🤔

[@lloydwright3661]

Well the occasional push up or chin up but yeah

[@soldierforchrist3727]

Check this video then let's talk about which is stronger kzbin.info/www/bejne/goqomaVtnq-AkNk

[@victorvictor9662]

But i need to curl for the gurls

[@arnoldasliaugaudas4213]

I press like before watched video, because topic is intresting!

[@Bugser64]

the hard part of not having freedom yet is ur mom being psychotic and not having privacy in ur own room

[@dominicward1812]

You are wrong on this one my friend.🤔 🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪

[@rustcohle9267]

Tell us why then

[@ThaProfeshional]

you %100 missed the point of this video in my opinion. (that would be assuming i know what you mean and i also know what he means, and i think i do)

[@jrthehomie1915]

My mans loves him some Tupac.

[@9xxxxxxxxx]

JrTheHomie My man has a shrine!!!!

[@yanni-duff]

Both weighted pull-ups and barbell rows are standard in a general strength training weight lifting regime. The video should be named "why close-kinetic-chain exercises *tend to be* better than open-kinetic-chain ones". Calisthenics are better for relative strength and weights are better for absolute strength and hypertrophy. There is tons of anecdotal experience to prove it.

[@the_CHAR_official]

Went to the gym for the first time after doing body weight only and lat pull down for 100kg and I'm 65kg

[@shadowworkout6906]

dominik is the best informative man in this

[@tonyferguson4412]

Calisthenics only

[@bryceblalock7318]

I do calisthenics and the entire time i work out i am out of breath. I also think movements where your body moves like Pullups, Dips, Squats, deadlifts, lunges, and pushups are the best

[@unnaturalatrophy5377]

Yeah you should post daily (or very frequently)

[@2Timbi]

Yeah Man, you are one of the best for me, Thank you.

[@giuseppesw9606]

Brother in the next videos you could put subtitles in Italian, because I'm Italian and English I don't ko I know😪

[@yishaytrigger994]

So what about heavy exercises; which good replacement is there for them, that u can load yourself a lot, like deadlift etc?

[@alec3979]

I think doing both bodyweight and weight lifting is definitely the best way to go. But it's important to focus on one for a period of time before doing the other I believe because otherwise, based on my experience, you'll wear yourself out trying to do too much and make slower progress. Not only physically but mentally it's overwhelming and exhausting to worry about doing so many exercises. There's overhead press, deadlift, bench press, squat, front squat, barbell row, pull ups, chin ups, barbell curls, push ups, dips, planche, handstand pushups... There's simply too much. I'm focusing on just 4 exercises for now which is the front squat, deadlift, bench press, and barbell row. Picking one and getting good at it seems best to me.

[@carrioncalisthenics]

This is all great knowledge! How does this video not have 1M views??

[@TheClinchMagazine]

Adding weights makes training easier and shorter. And tracking progress becomes much less pain in the ass.

[@TheClinchMagazine]

Although, calisthenics has its own place.

[@warrenellis1023]

So. Let’s say I want to quit barbells and start pure calisthenics. What will I do instead of the deadlift?

[@davepazz580]

There is no *direct* calisthenics replacement for the deadlift... but as long as you are training your hamstrings with Nordic curls (or suspension strap leg curls) and doing direct lower-back work like hyperextensions (back raises) or reverse hyperextensions, you should have no need to deadlift in terms of muscle function.

[@jlcarrasco]

Would exercises done in a rings dream machine be closed or open kinetic chain?

[@mohamedbenabderrahmane1784]

Do leg part 3 beginner To advanced

[@CynthiaWithLove]

Upside down cross. Why😢

[@balasaravanan500]

I learnt about open and closed chain exercises. Thank you very much sir 🤝

[@theKRUGMEISTER]

For whatever reason, I’ve always had way more difficulty doing lat pulls at the gym than I had doing pull ups. I could do 25lb weighted pull ups easier than lat pull downs with 30lb less than my bodyweight!! I always figured maybe I have worse form on the pull downs since I’m not as used to them.

[@VietSouthen]

Firstly, you just get used to do pullups, so when you back to pull-down machine it must take time for your brain to adapt again. Then, master your form in pullups first, i can assure that it can be translated to machine much easier later.

[@dgruvers]

Great information

[@mariosalinasag]

Amazing! Calisthenics is a lifestyle Salute from Mexico

[@fuzzyone4254]

I love calisthenics and do body weight exercises every other day, but they can't beat barbell squats, dead lifts and even bench press.

[@VietSouthen]

Do some crazy level of Calisthenics legs-training (natural curl, elevate sissy). For bench press, do planche pushup instead. Hahaa

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

And still lift weights but if had to say which was more fun definitely calisthenics

[@MrApetape]

I would say the deadlift is pretty effective as a lifting excercise, recommendations for low back without being crazy about headstand/handstand?

[@davepazz580]

Hyperextensions or reverse hyperextensions...

[@IIAASSOONN]

Love the Shirt!! Master Roshi school!!!!!!!

[@newlife4830]

You compare bodyweight exersize and machine, compare olympic lifting and bodyweight. No one can do bodyweight push ups and after that do clean and jerk 200 kg.

[@dusandragovic09srb]

Jesus fucking Christ if I knew this in my childhood. 'Respect older people ...' - no, ONLY TRUTH!

[@HandM2024]

No subtitle😢

thanks

[@andresjimenez8520]

Dominik , what do you think about olympic lifting ? It transfers to everyday life like calisthenics ?

[@davepazz580]

Olympic lifting is a real joint-wrecker...

[@Philipp_-cp2xw]

Nothing against Olympic Lifting but I think that it's not healthy for your body. Doing a Clean and Snatch puts alot of pressure on your joints and there is the danger that you can hurt yourself.

[@joaoruiz3486]

💯💯💯 Yes!!

[@burisha2351]

Thank you ! Very interesting indeed ! What do you think happens when both the body and thé thing you're gripping aren't fixed ? (like with gymnastic rings ?)

[@riandunneleavy4161]

He means fixed as in the bar or object stays the same height

[@ralphblack]

Thank you dominik for the video. I think that calisthenics is the best way to be in a good shape and also for those who try to attract women via their body shape. Coz when i see people who do the gym a lot or people who aren't using the gym wisely i freak out, they turn themselves into creepy guys and they look abnormal. Big muscles don't matter but strength does and mobility does. I love the content you make. Am and old viewer. Keep up the good work.

[@mohammedubed7000]

Don't do Calisthenics or Weightlifting to attract girls. That's the worst goal one can have

[@ralphblack]

Actually i know a lot of guys who stay in shape just for attracting women. But me i just want the strength and explosiveness for my kickboxing. I don't wanna look huge in size. And i don't need any women at this age. But yet still a bunch of people who are motivated by women.

[@matteozanoni9139]

Calisthenics the beat

[@shdw1228]

I love calisthenics. But benchpress is great. Fact that you lying on bench allow you to overload weight like crazy ..

[@davepazz580]

The problem is the bench press unnaturally isolates the pressing muscles and causes wear and tear on the rotor cuffs...

[@zephyrr108]

Bench press is actually crappy exercise anatomy wise.

[@dennfoo]

Whats better as in result to getting stronger; (example) 50x chinups in 1 go or 5 x 10 chinups? Or doesnt it really matter much?

[@eduard6450]

5x10 obviously 50 is an endurance set so doesn't really help with strength

[@dennfoo]

@@eduard6450 Allright, thanks!

[@keepcal]

If you can do 50x chinups in 1 go, then doing 5x10 with 60kg or more added will be the best to gain size and strength

[@iamlegend3674]

So which is better Olympic weightlifting or Gymnastics? Me: Olympic weightlifting

[@iamlegend3674]

@Eyre Borne sorry Bro but it's both. Just check the lifts of these Olympic weightlifters you'll be in awe. If Olympic weightlifters had to transition to gymnastics it would be all to easy because they have strength, flexibility and mobility.

[@DominikSky1]

For upper body gymnastics... By faaar brother! =)

[@iamlegend3674]

@@DominikSky1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJTTnKdva96Fqa8

[@DominikSky1]

@@iamlegend3674 I have studied Pyrros Dimas, Lu Xioajun, dmitry klokov, ilya Ilyn etc for years... my opinin stays the same...

[@iamlegend3674]

@@DominikSky1 well to each his own. I also train in calisthenics and the levers and crosses are very impressive no doubt indeed but the very action of snatching a heavy ass weight over your head scares me. If I had to bet money between each sport's athlete and them transitioning over, the weightlifter would progress faster. That's my opinion anyways.

[@Bestbuddybob]

So as a 120kg overweight 41 year old would you say it would be better to get my fat content down a little bit with weights the. Start with a callisthenic workout, aim is to reduce fat (belly) and increase flexibility / mobility.

[@bonjovii]

I think the hardest part of the body weight workout is following progressive over load scheme at the beginning.

[@greganderson4901]

Not all, but most body builders and strength athletes. have done plenty of chins and weighted chins. Same for doing dips.

[@DSPNWtoCali]

Easy, you are using lot of your body especially your core to counter those weight, body weight. Like what Dom said, if you are fix you aren't using much of your whole body strength to counter the action or movement. Then again, there are benefits to just using weight but why limit our exercises to just weight. Calisthenic is about mental exercises while weight is like what Dom said, "just showing off," lol.

[@ABCDEF-uz9fd]

What kind if weight machines does He own? I only have some dumbells and a curl bar. The pull up bar doesn’t count haha 😏.

[@ЉубеЦветковски]

There is no such thing as better in my opinion it depends on what you wanna accomplish if u wanna get big asf bodybuilding if u wanna be able to doa lot of push ups and stuf than bodyweight workouts And pls dude does number u said u lifted for the first time in the gym I bet u cant lift them right now 😂 And ur form must have been awful

[@silashudson2793]

mate respect to this guy cos he has all the 2pac shit in the background n all the motivational quotes in the back. definitely opened my eyes with everything in this video 💪💯

[@marquesroyallaume-landon1924]

Try saying that to Ronnie Coleman

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

And? He’s that dudes on every steroid in the book now look at him he’s crippled because he used too much

[@mojstermajstr9597]

While I like explanation very much and I agree sure bodyweight movement includes more muscles. Even tho that 120kg bench is impressive if you were not training for it its still a small number. If you wanna get to 200kg bench press for example you will have to train bp. Thats how it is. Also for deadlift do dl and so on. Depend on a goal

[@alejandro.consuegra]

Combine calisthenics with Olympic weightlifting for next level strength and aesthetics.

[@tw3638]

Yo imma let you finish but the answer is it's just simply awesome. But imma be honest imma weight train and put bodyweight on the back burner until I reach my bodyweight goal

[@ThePetieProject]

Definitely agree with your argument of closed chain vs open chain and building true transferable strength. I think one oversight is progressive overload. Weights are much easier to progressive overload in a controlled fashion. I acquired the strength to do my first pullups on a lat pull down machine back in middle school. Was it the best route vs banded bodyweight? The verdict is still out. Weights are a tool and are not the end all be all but I do think there is a lot of value to them in conjunction with calisthenics.