Why is Clone Trooper and Old Republic Armor SO SIMILAR?

Why is Clone Trooper and Old Republic armor so similar, despite there being a 4,000 year difference in armor creation? We'll cover all that and more in today's Star Wars lore Short!
#starwars #starwarslore #starwarsshorts #starwars #starwarsexplained #clonewars #oldrepublic #clonearmor

[@iangoff8844]

Tbh probably cause the artists decided to use cause it would look cool. Like how we love the clone designs

[@hennifen8420]

That’s obvious, what were trying to do is come up with a canon answer for it

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

That isn't an in-universe reason and doesn't count.

[@trev9168]

@@nofacedgoldfish6216 yeah the kaminos loving the color white of perfection as well as most likely palpatine and dooku wanting the armor to be modeled after the old republic commandos as if to make them more acceptable in the eyes of the Jedi

[@TrueGamer22887]

Look cool sell toys. This is where channels like this become cringe to me

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

@@TrueGamer22887 That isn't an answer. That's an explanation that breaks the fourth wall. Channels like these are for in-universe explanations.

[@CaptainJackson33]

Old Republic armor is so cool.

[@Danilio.]

Agreed

[@DarkShadow-hg4ul]

Yeah it looks awesome

[@marcussanchez6907]

Yeah

[@jowziff]

Really I thought it was warm

[@tiredman99]

Yeah. I prefer it to the clone trooper armor

[@Mr.Doodlebob]

I love the design of the republic trooper armor, it looks “practical” and somewhat modular

[@Dephino7]

phase 2 armor is meant to be more modular than 1

[@jmgonzales7701]

how? it looks the same with clone armor.

[@Selvanus]

@@jmgonzales7701 Looks much more difficult

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@Selvanus looks the same excpt more bulk

[@prind142]

That's because 3d rendering has advanced since episode 2 when that clean and simple armor was much easier to work with. The old republic designs are because the software had the capacity to show that kind of details and the people making it wanted their gear to look very 'useful'

[@RafaelMonteiroMaia]

That's would be the in universe explanation. The out of universe explanation is that the devs wanted to evoke the feeling of the clone troopers.

[@krzysztofwozny9742]

And break everyone's immersion.

[@RafaelMonteiroMaia]

@@SquareBoxHead Yes. SWTOR is a game.

[@Supersonicspyro]

@@krzysztofwozny9742 how is that a break of immersion?

[@100nitrog2]

@@Supersonicspyro Because they violated the established timeline of the SW universe and gave Old Republic troopers anachronistic armor.

[@Supersonicspyro]

@@100nitrog2 you are aware that the old republic takes place 3 centuries after kotor right? They don't have too be using the same armor as the kotor games Nothing Inherently wrong with them having armor similar to the clones

[@bercor4948]

"Never change a winning plan. Especially if it looks dope as hell" ~ *Queen Elizabeth*

[@matiasvonbischhoffshausen1307]

Did she actually say that?

[@sinisterskills17]

@matiasvonbischhoffshausen1307yes 😂

[@davidhong1934]

​@@sinisterskills17 Works for me ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@Bluesonofman]

That and there was a 2000 year long dark age where they literally went back to using spears

[@dylandemaagt4597]

Why

[@proudpapaprick]

Constant galactic war between massive technological superpowers and ridiculously powerful space cults of light and dark wizards who can see the future, eventually causing societal collapses all across the galaxy.

[@Bluesonofman]

@@dylandemaagt4597 Between the events of SWTOR and Darth Bane it was basically a age of endless war and bloodshed where there was also a plague during this time so galactic population dropped to a point where they couldn’t use capital ships anymore and everyone was scraping the barrel. So technically regressed, worlds like Yavan 4 where forgotten and places lost the hyper drive. On top of this there was no Republic and Empire. Just Jedi and Sith carving out warlord states for themselves.

[@Brutallav]

@@Bluesonofman are there any books that you can suggest that cover this era?

[@llnir]

@@Bluesonofman I'm curious about a book on this too. That sounds interesting

[@Mr_Emoticon]

I love how the older back you go in Star Wars lore the more futuristic it looks. Those troops in the artwork where basically using si-fi m4s 🤣

[@The7thFleet]

Old Republic Troopers are so badass

[@brodycrybaby]

Fax

[@neofulcrum5013]

Agreed

[@Danilio.]

Indeed

[@SaariumDeta]

/\ I Never played swtor

[@Danilio.]

@@SaariumDeta what are you trying to say?

[@devynd6476]

“Why does it look the same despite 4000 years of difference and different manufacturers?” Because brand recognition.

[@djkleb7645]

George Lucas explained in a documental that the designs in the old republic and the ones we saw in the movies seem similar because there is no longer a gap in development in Star Wars and that designs vary few because there is no newer technology that is why something 2000 years old seems similar to the things we saw in the movies. I really do not how to put it in better words, because that's something I saw a lot of years ago

[@Stinkmeaner420]

@@djkleb7645 basically, their society has stagnated technologically. Stagnation. That is the word you are looking for

[@matchless98]

No shit Sherlock

[@djkleb7645]

@@Stinkmeaner420 looking for that exact clip of George Lucas explaining that is going to cost a lot of time because there is a massive amount of George Lucas documentals, but if I find it I am going to put in in this comment section 👍

[@macsmith2013]

Because SW's galaxy has no apparent advancements in technology or design for thousands of years (which is kinda sad tbh). Oh, and fanboys of course.

[@graybaron6430]

In ww1, Great Britain, France and Germany used some similar helmet designs to their middle ages helmets so it's ok

[@hugofernandez4459]

The thing is that the Old Republic armour looks even more modern than clone's. Like if that armour was a continuation of the phase 2, It would fit more like the armour of New Republic troops than 4,000 years before

[@dragnarok4286]

@@hugofernandez4459 you don't understand economy and history of star wars the clones are a mass produced weapon to be used quickly they weren't ment to survive the fight just win it. They have accelerated aging which means they aged and died super fast afther the war if we live 100 years they only lived 25. And then there is the history aspect for 2000 years the galaxy was in complete bloodshed with technology and planets lost that's why the technology is the same or in some aspects worse than the old Republic because it's reinvented.

[@xhawkenx633]

@@hugofernandez4459 so you are saying we should go bake to wear bronze helmets instead of titanium kevlar composite helmets?

[@jclive2860]

@@xhawkenx633 how do you even reach that conclusion with the comment you replied to?

[@xhawkenx633]

@@jclive2860 intentionally seeking the most absurd conclusion for comedic effect?

[@joevanvlack1]

Mandolorians have been inspiring the star wars universe forever.

[@jmgonzales7701]

they are the coolest race and culture and star wars

[@wiltheavatar]

@@jmgonzales7701 space pirates and slavers

[@moscanaveia]

@@jmgonzales7701 Except they aren't a "race". They're a culture. Original old school mandalorians were a race, called the taung, but that race was straight ripped off Predator aliens

[@Via2535]

"Extra blast protection" Clone medics:so that was a f***ing lie

[@codieomeallain6635]

“Blast protection” means you can go through shrapnel and withstand the concussive force to some degree, it doesn’t mean if you get shot in the chest with a anti-aircraft cannon you’ll be able to walk it off.

[@redinc10945]

I mean if there is one design that happens to be more effective things tend to trend towards it, look at ancient pyramids they all tend towards a similar design

[@benjaminholcomb9478]

So you're saying the armor looks the same because of aliens???

[@redinc10945]

@@benjaminholcomb9478 what? No

[@benjaminholcomb9478]

@@redinc10945 me *hiding my shame and embarrassment*: oh, yeah of course not.

[@sirshotty7689]

Yep, triangles are the most effective ways to stack rocks.

[@xhawkenx633]

@@sirshotty7689 you mean pyramids, triangles are two dimensional, pyramids are three dimensional

[@lewismartin3430]

TL:DW-mandalorians have been so nuts at making good armour for so long everyone copies them.

[@Blindluck92]

Old Republic: "We drew inspiration from the people that kicked our ass." Clones: "We are the people who kicked your ass."

[@SWDude2710]

​@@Blindluck92 context?

[@codieomeallain6635]

@@SWDude2710Republic Clone soldiers are genetic copies of Jango Fett, a Mandalorian which are the people who kicked the Republic’s ass. Much longer lore dump. Fett himself was the Mand’alor, which is like the King of the Mandalorians, and killed a dozen Jedi with his bare hands during the Battle of Galidraan where the Jedi wiped out the majority of the True Mandalorian warriors leaving Mandalore to be fought over by the New Mandalorian pacifists and the radical Death Watch. Death Watch won eventually despite Republic support for the New Mandalorians with brief reigns as Mand’alor by Pre Vizsla and Darth Maul and another civil war between the Kryze and Maul factions of Death Watch after Pre Vizsla was killed for the throne. Maul’s faction was defeated by the combined forces of the Kryze faction and the Republic 332nd Company led by Ahsoka. Directly after this the Empire was declared and the reunified Death Watch transitioned into the Imperial Super-commandos and accepted Imperial rule although their leader Bo-Katan Kryze did not.

[@SWDude2710]

@@codieomeallain6635 I know about the clones origins, of cause, but thank you for explaining how they're able to beat the Old Republic soldiers.

[@st4rlightr4v3n4]

How is a 20 second short too long? Even my ADHD ass can sit through that 😂

[@klover224]

I mean we see similar stuff even now a days with older medieval or even traditional samurai esk armors being adapted into modern armors. Not on a military level but in a hey we think it looks cool sense.

[@khristopherheiss52]

Lol exactly because there good armor designs an being given a modernized form in new materials new tech an such. Kinda why all plate armor look similar Bec they all share similar designs for humans. With minor cosmetic/functional changes.

[@Engieman909]

@@khristopherheiss52 Plate armor is a very diverse category that doesnt always look remotely similar. Look at japanese samurai armor, and compare it to western europe. Or chinese or turkish or middle eastern. List goes on all of those areas used plate type armor yet look very different and function in slightly differing ways

[@brody7714]

@@Engieman909 I wouldn’t really call samurai armour “plate armour”. It’s more of a stylized mail, with form taking precedence over function. Similar can be said with China’s lamellar armour, though it definitely focused on function.

[@lemmingscanfly5]

@@brody7714 I disagree with both of you.

[@brody7714]

@@lemmingscanfly5 okay. Sure. I give you a valid argument and you just say “I disagree”. Just don’t even waste my time with a response, man…

[@sirshotty7689]

I like the old republic designs, especially for ships. All the technology tends to be blocky and slower while also invoking similar modern Star Wars designs. All the fighters are larger than the modern ones and the navy is largely built up of cruisers and frigates. Like the harrower class which was the backbone of the sith’s navy was around half the length of a imperial 2 star destroyer. And it helps show some technological growth between then and the modern Star Wars era.

[@superluigi9490]

Man, I absolutely love Clone armor, but there’s just something so freaking cool about the Old Republic troopers armor.

[@shyfrog3731]

Long story short: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

Plus republic trooper armour looks bloody awesome.

[@charizardjmj]

I appreciate that people still try to explain this stuff when in reality it's just a creative oversight. Props to you for answering questions that don't really need to be asked

[@SkyNinja759]

People are going to wonder IRL when the stahlhelm is still being used 4000 years from now. Can't really beat perfection when technology hasn't progressed either.

[@zefft.f4010]

And the 1916 stahlhelm itself was somewhat based on the medieval 'sallet' type helmet. Remove the faceguard from some of those medieval designs and it looks very similar to a stahlhelm.

[@Random__Dude.]

​@@zefft.f4010 mhmmmm.....I never thought about it but now.....there are indeed some similarities.

[@zefft.f4010]

@@Random__Dude. It's an interesting facet of WW1 - helmets had not been used as part of standard military gear for some time, but when it became obvious that helmets and possibly armor would be needed many looked to medieval times for inspiration. The English 'Brodie' helmet is similar to medieval kettle helmet designs and the French 'Adrian' also has a medieval style to it. Another kind of off-topic but fun fact is that Sweden was the last to retire the tricorne style hat from military uniforms in favor of caps and helmets, also around WW1.

[@Krokmaniak]

​@@zefft.f4010 Another fun fact i. Similar fashion. Polish military to this day uses same type of hat (rogatywka), just shortened for non combat scenarios as XVIII century military Also technically Poland never completely got rid of lances and sabers (though lances now has only one ceremonial unit) and last successful polish cavalry charge was in 1945

[@incap6038]

I purposely outfitted my Trooper in SWTOR like an Arc Trooper because Clone armour was so cool.

[@Myrddin_Nebelstein]

to qoute Ahoy from his M60 video "The best lessons (of war) are taught by the opposition" if the Mandalorians had the better armour during the Mandalorian Wars its only natural that the Republic would adopt the armour for Frontline and Special Operations Forces i would imagine

[@admiralfurret]

Imagine a very long living specimen, getting absolutely dunked on by old republic troopers, waiting 3582 years for a revenge, only to realize they have returned

[@neofelisnebulosa3871]

Yeah it makes perfect sense as the base design for mandolorian armour is extremely good. Also jace malcom is the goat

[@a1bizzy.04]

That republic mini movie was sick they can make a king movie about it for all I care

[@friedpancakes266]

Jango Fett was the clone template. On top of the very healthy credit payments and an unaltered clone he would raise like a son, Jango decided to stay on Kamino and train clones himself. He hired fellow true Mandalorians, declaring them dead and taking them to Kamino to help train clones. Jango saw it as an opportunity to preserve the warrior culture of the Mandolorians. While it wasn't how he wanted it to go, Boba Fett would end up fulfilling his father's wishes of reviving the Mandalorian culture on Mandalor itself, at least in legends

[@SemiStableUniverse]

Never thought about this similarity. Great video!

[@ChiefKene]

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” is my head canon lol

[@leo_the_v.3847]

I'm surprised by how slow the technological advancement of the Star Wars galaxy is going if two armor types that were created 4000 years apart from each other can basically look the same.

[@leonelimalevu2199]

Old Republic armor had always given me the impression they were from a more advanced time.

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

When it comes to this I just have to think of the helmets that english longbowmen and british riflemen used to wear. If a certain design has all the characteristics you are looking for in your gear then simply upgrade the material.

[@wastrelperv]

German Stahlhelm was based off the Medieval sallet as well. In WW1, they looked to the past when designing helmets (after having fought without helmets at all for awhile in that war).

[@jethromartin5527]

Both armor concepts were made from the mandolorian armor idea, it’s very common to adopt enemy ideas because they are better

[@CollinMcLean]

Worked for the Romans

[@TheINSANATY]

Old Republic troopers is like a sign that the Empire isn't just a government that defeated the Republic, no. The Empire is the Republic, it just got corrupted from within and destroyed itself. That is why the Alliance to restore the Republic wasn't recognized as a legal counter party, but as rebelious terrorist organization like the CIS was. That is why I think that the sequels shouldn't have focused on rehashing the existing story but to focus on the infights inside the New Republic, threating it to convert it into the New Empire.

[@JustGromski]

I want both a republic era war movie trilogy/ or series. Or a republic era battlefront game.

[@christiancolon7469]

U may be on to something here🤔

[@extra4594]

Unfortunately its Disney and they usually dont give us what we want..

[@901Cardinal]

Never understood the concept of the new republic and why it was so demilitarized and why they wouldn’t want these badass looking armor for soldiers

[@legal371]

Well it'd be real awkward if the clones were dressed as sith troopers

[@Agent_Pear]

The way i see it, "if it works, it works" type of ideal

[@thatonedude6596]

I disagree

[@Skjeggeskall]

In short: It's cool and it works. If it works, why fix it?

[@overlord5068]

Cuz 80% of people are like this

[@Ghiaman1334]

I mean, lets be real, no lore justification can get away from the fact that it was just 'we want clone troopers again'

[@chichiboypumpi]

tech in Star Wars seem to progress slower than a snail’s pace, it appears only light speed travel become faster.

[@bebejemzy1090]

Well I mean, they’ve probably reached the technological limit or it’s good design and there’s no reason to change it.

[@3starperfectdeer233]

"Does it actually stop blasters?" "No. But you'll look cool af"

[@charlottewalnut3118]

It’s hard to make armor any better than what they have without just making a Mech suit

[@Raul_Menendez]

The difference is Clone War armor is super easy to mass produce due to clones literally having the same size.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

Because people will instantly recognize it as "Star Wars"

[@moscanaveia]

The sort of thing that makes everything Star Wars way too derivative. The Old Republic is set 3700 years before the Clone Wars, if they wanted it to look the same, they should have set it during the Clone Wars. Thos whole thing makes the Star Wars universe look very small

[@connorbranscombe6819]

@@moscanaveia I mean, the universe seems small for more reason besides some armor. How about the fact that in a galaxy with supposedly trillions of intelligent beings, we only ever see the same 20-30 faces, like Boba Fett showing up in the prequels and shit, meeting obi wan, all it does it make it feel like the galaxy in Star Wars has less people then a small town in the USA.

[@moscanaveia]

@@connorbranscombe6819 Boba and Jango are barely thirty years apart. Did you know there's a schmuck called Something Something Fett in the Old Republic videogame, set 3700 years prior? Besides, nowhere in my comment do I say it's just the armour that makes the universe small. It's this mindset that everything must look and feel the same which does.

[@Matt-zu2lu]

The Old Republic armor design is just perfection

[@yvc9]

Theres only so many ways you can design armor

[@AlVainactual]

It's a cool way to explain in-universe that the concept artists probably wanted to make the armors in SWTOR more familiar to what the fans already knew for marketing's sake.

[@lando24k51]

You said a lot In 60 seconds great video

[@ClonedGamer001]

I always imagined it was because that was just one of the best way to make an armor system, so it never really went away. Like how IRL, so many handguns use a tilting barrel short recoil action, except instead of being for the last century or so it's over 4000 years

[@Design909.]

Cuz it looks dope

[@LiliumCruorem]

This is trippy. Just started playing swotor and I was just thinking this lastnight. I thought it was based off mando armor! Also... i think the suits involved in the game made a good call and it was designed that way to attract more people to the game.

[@danconti5984]

*looks at medieval kettle helmet with the WW2 British helmet* Makes sense

[@wastrelperv]

Sallet-->Stahlhelm-->Modern combat helmets.

[@koriled4523]

The Republic actually both hired Mando mercs and took inspiration from their armor. It's covered in one of the older Old Republic books from when I was young, I can't remember which. The SWTOR MMORPG also has some detail about it in the Trooper questline.

[@mr_h831]

I was literally talking to someone about this armor not too long ago They think it looks futuristic compared to clone armor Which I just How? The armor from the old republic looks damn near identical to clone armor

[@TheGoofer1093]

the armor in the photos (specifically the diagram one in this video) just seemed more detailed so i can understand where they were coming from

[@TheDaveinator54]

Nah I actually think the old republic armor looks closer to modern day body armor but if we gave it a more halo esc. appearance

[@mr_h831]

@@TheDaveinator54 I dont see the comparisons at all but whatever Lol

[@hugofernandez4459]

The Old Republic armour would fit more for New Republic troops than been a 4,000 year predecesor of clone armour, it just looks like a succesor of the phase 2

[@V2ULTRAKill]

​@@hugofernandez4459 ok but When we take into consideration the culture of the post old republic era up until the films War was so lackinh that military tech had basically dark aged itself it would make complete sense for TOR armor to be more advanced

[@AnotherSWnerd]

Ive always wondered this. Its obvious why the designs look the way they do in our reality but the lore behind it in the sw universe i was clueless on.

[@justabouteverythingstarwar1416]

If it ain't broke, even after 4000 years. Dont fix it 🤔

[@kadindarklord]

There's a quote, *somewhere* that the reason that the entire deceived trailer looks like ROTS, is because the people making that trailer were under the impression that it was that era.

[@andrewsunde7915]

Or… Hear me out… The writers just made some similarities.

[@fw.Dallas]

havoc trooper armor looks more modern than clone armor. Especially base clone armor without any helmet attachments, pauldrons, or anything of the sort

[@Nickyblicky-n5x]

Lack of imagination

[@eggabacon]

That Republic Trooper armor looks super cool

[@沈啍]

Star Wars artists: *Made a creative decision* Star Wars fans: *Makes up ten minutes worth of non-canon lore to explain the creative decision* This is like how Mace Windu has a purple light saber simply because Sam L Jackson wanted to be recognizable during big fight scenes, while hardcore fans will tell you about how he uses the force differently.

[@abobanger9054]

It's canon that he uses force differently so they are right about it What the motives behind the stage were doesn't matter, that's the same for every film/series/franchise

[@TheForcesWrath]

Everything in The Old Republic is just Dripp! Story, Fights, Ships, Armour, Robes, Robotics, Scale of Wars, Force Powers etc. ❤️🗿

[@NotSoRoasted]

All the people in here about how there is no actual "lore" and it's a "nostalgia trip for designers" must be fun at parties. Yeah we know why the fuck they look similar but the in lore reason is good too. Maybe try having a bit more imagination.

[@W_Winters_99]

Just ripping designs and dropping them in places they don't belong to feed off of what was popular at the time isn't very imaginative...

[@sirshotty7689]

@@W_Winters_99 complaining about shit that effects literally nobody is just as unoriginal and isn’t very imaginative either yet humans do it nonetheless. Humans aren’t very imaginative, we live on a planet called ground and have a moon called “moon”

[@W_Winters_99]

@@sirshotty7689 this guy's over here doing Olympic level mental gymnastics claiming that the bootleg clone trooper design isn't shit because the entire human race apparently doesn't have an imagination, so why even try doing anything original? Just regurgitate and consume! Forever!

[@sirshotty7689]

@@W_Winters_99 I honestly couldn’t give less of a shit what he says. you just seem to be getting very worked up over something insignificant. I’m not saying you can’t care or that it’s invalid just that you seem to be getting kind of aggressive with someone because of their thoughts.

[@W_Winters_99]

@@sirshotty7689 I'm trying to make the point that you shouldn't just shovel garbage into your face because it's "not hurting anything" and then actually go out of your way to defend it when someone gives their honest opinion. I mean it's okay to like what you like but when someone puts a work out into the public space, it is open to criticism and it's completely valid to be at least a little bit disappointed when looking at so much wasted potential. And yeah, this may just be a comment section but in general, apathetically accepting mediocrity in everything is how things get worse.

[@sonicusr]

They did an awesome job with old republic armor

[@normietwiceremoved]

Because bioware were intending to make it set in-between ep3 and 4 and they weren't allowed. I hate the fact that the Old Republic looks similar. It was literally the perfect opportunity to experiment with Star wars' aesthetic and they just copied the clones, droids and star destroyers. BORING.

[@yeahthatstheguy44]

Kinda bummed that The Totj comics is the only one that had the archaic aesthetic of the old republic in star wars.

[@biggfish7010]

Because lucasarts and disney are lazy. The sith order, the empire and first order look exactly the same. The rebellion and the resistance look exactly the same. The republic and old Republic look exactly the same.

[@normietwiceremoved]

@@biggfish7010 Disney didn't own the franchise at this point. It's biowares fault.

[@moscanaveia]

@@normietwiceremoved Even KotOR doesn't look so uninspiringly derivative. It's EAWare's fault

[@connorbranscombe6819]

@@normietwiceremoved notice how he specified Lucasarts as well, this is a problem that goes back a long time in Star Wars, they just feel so pressured to do generic Star Wars aesthetics every time.

[@xanderm7231]

Old republic troopers are badasses they would go hand to hand with the Sith and that’s fucking awesome to see that

[@benjijacobs2049]

They probably just used Jangos armor as a base since he was already the one being cloned

[@DOOMPREDATORMAUS]

That makes sense, because when I first learned about Republic Troopers, I thought I was going nuts

[@fosty.]

I chalk it up to someone being lazy.

[@ArmouredProductions]

Republic Armor is also of higher quality. The SWTOR encyclopedia states that standard issue Republic Armor is made of Plastoid which is the material Clone Commando Armor is made of. Then higher customized Republic Armor like for Havoc Squad is made of Durasteel with Cortisis underweave and has Shield Generators.

[@tk-6967]

And stormtrooper armour is plastoid

[@ryanratchford2530]

Bad worldbuilding & an over dependence on nostalgia :(

[@Martin-zg7hx]

Soo true...

[@moosejuice4231]

Or it just looks cool??

[@gocharsispa2558]

Honestly this is probably the closest answer lmao. Let’s be real, the OR troopers looking like that made it far easier to identify them as the “good guys” at the time.

[@citizenvulpes4562]

@@gocharsispa2558 exactly, it's just a way for players to say "oh those guys look like the clones, they must be the republic" without designers really thinking about where clone armor design came from and failing to research that there's an established reason for said design. It does kinda make it lame for me because they literally just wanted clones but had to make the game set before clone wars. But I guess in kotor the republic troops had a design similar to the rebels so it looks cooler than that.

[@miguelmorbius2250]

Considering how in the lore the technology more or less stagnated for thousands of years probably means thag its just a good desing for humans.

[@fabiocosta3830]

Don't forget, too, the armor shown is from the Havoc squad. The armor on the republic fleet was more streamlined with a fish-lipped style helmet. The colossus t-17 variant looked more bulky and more blast resiliant (it had a weird popped out square-like visor, like it zooms). Although there are general similarities, key one be the T shape visor (tho some look more a greek xi/ phoenician samekh), in general it varies from world to world, and from climate to climate. Is easy to recognize as trooper/guard armor though, no matter in what republic world one is.

[@williamfrederick9670]

Because the writers were lazy

[@naparoid5507]

The answer is easy. The designers got lazy and just copy paste clone armor to the Old Republic armor

[@alexanderrahl7034]

"Why do they looks similar?" A lazy writer wrote it that way, and then a better writer made and excuse for it. Lol

[@mrglizees7075]

What blaster protection lol, how many times have y’all seen a clone survive a blaster shot

[@cliff9092]

Poor design

[@AzraelThanatos]

I'd mainly assumed that a chunk of the look was also the appeal to history and tradition there. The basic design being something that would work to also make the Clone Troopers fall into the visual lineage of the Republic Troopers designs as a modernized version of the same thing and implying the history and tradition for the new force there. I think that part of the same thing also applied to capital ships with a lot of the designs being heavily modeled off of classic/famous military designs in universe.

[@nutrient.-.7275]

republic commando on the old Xbox was so fun 🤙 gave me a lot of halo vibez with the visor and I’ve always been a big halo fan

[@thealphaomega4888]

Old Republic trooper armor any day if the week IMO

[@benchui580]

I hope lego would make more Republic trooper. So many desgin in The old Republic are so cool.

[@paradoxlaboratories8005]

I feel like the real reason is that the artists were told to stay on brand with the rest of Star Wars and Clone/Stormtrooper armor is super familiar.

[@Mr.Autodelete]

TLDR: it’s a good design

[@TheFordoCanonizationCommittee]

The greatest trio of all: An Old Republic Trooper An ARC Trooper A Helldiver

[@battycrease2005]

Old republic armour goes reprehensibly hard

[@icemagefullbusta]

This is really cool full circle moment considering Boba Fett, the first Mandalorian, was originally designed as a 'super stormtrooper'

[@ItsDaKoolaidDude]

Warriors/soldiers most of the time knows what their armor needs, so not surprising that the Mandalorians style of armor kept appearing in armies.

[@comediccomrade5716]

They look similar cuz it’s fucking awesome and every realized that

[@hiphopopotamus2839]

One word: mandalorians They gave the old republic and jedi so much trouble they figured their armor designs were really good and nabbed them for themselves.

[@secretagenttau2233]

I would love to see a book about a Republic commando shot into the future. Maybe either Galactic Civil War or clone wars

[@juantsu2000]

Artist behind the design: “Yeah, I just thought they looked cool”

[@MayanFrighter100000]

I like the idea of the old republic basing their armor on the Mandalorians after claiming victory over them and started re-engineering their armor design and technology but became destroyed and obsolete after 1000 years of peace and the clone armor was a continuation of that tradition.

[@davantebarbain3216]

This Low key kind of reminds me of how Batman's forever and batman and Robin the guy who made the suits took inspiration from Spartan armor puts you why we got the nipples on the suit with the purpose of the body armor giving them a superhuman looking physique

[@BobWithHat]

A T-shaped visor would actually be very useful in the real world. The base of the T would be a great location to add cameras, and other sensors, such as depth sensors, IR or thermal scanner, and other optical equipment - close enough to the eyes for easy adaptation by the user, and along the outermost ridge of the helmet, allowing for best lens angles to cover as much battle-space as possible. If I were designing a futuristic helmet, I would definitely take inspiration from these design cues.

[@valthenvega2434]

Kaminoans had knowledge from Jango, Dooku, and (in a way) Syfo Dyas. Being that Dooku had great wisdom, he probably considered designs from the ancient republic to be implemented as a disguise with slight mandalorian touch that wouldn’t ring the alarms to the current republic, furthermore considering Republic-age Mandalore is kinda good to the Jedi but the historic background not so much

[@mrbojangles9348]

In Legends, Jango and other Cuy’Val Dar members designed the armour as a committee to meet the needs that they all thought the perfect soldiers would need. Kal Skirata designed the Katan armour for the commandos

[@Mr.Foxhat]

Also, historically, it is very normal for cultures to have similar designs once their technology reaches similar points. Knights and Samurai are the closest examples, but there is also the Tlingit Tribe.

[@Train115]

The lore is that Old Republic Troopers had training based on Mandalorian combat, and as such they made the armor similar to Mando armor.