Why is Jordan Peterson so Popular? | Konstantin Kisin

[@MorrisOnions06]

Peterson's message is essentially that of the Stoics. Life was never easy. That hasn't changed. But we elevate ourselves by confronting the challenges. I wish I had learned this as a young man. Peterson is popular because he is giving people wisdom.

[@jeremymead8546]

​@Flux_40 and there is your problem. Some how you know better than everyone else. Your next logical step is a socialist/Marxist approach to society and economics where your profound knowledge and understanding is imposed on everyone for their benefit.

[@MrMattias87]

Actually, that's socialism that is all for population growth as they make the argument that immigrants are good because they can contribute to population growth and work productivity. Yet in some places, over immigration has now become a problem (especially in Europe and the US). So you got your argument back to front my laddio.

[@chesterlestrange7725]

​@Flux_40oh...you sweet summer child

[@loveleyday]

@Flux_40 You could be right - Peterson IS popular with people who have a mind, however shallow. I notice that he is NOT popular with those that have no mind at all and simply espouse the same solution to every problem. i.e. socialists, communists and Marxists.

[@bigredracingdog466]

@Flux_40 Capitalism does not require infinite population growth. Where did you ever get that "fact"?

[@AFringedGentian]

Because he doesn’t give advice. He gives his heart. He gives himself. That’s why people love him.

[@davidhirt9129]

Good observation. And he is in pain which interestingly enough makes him so relatable.

[@AFringedGentian]

@@davidhirt9129 chronic pain and he never complains about it. You can see it in his eyes sometimes though, the dear man.

[@alexmintz7786]

What a wonderfully terse summary of JP's ideas! Brilliant. Bravo Konstantin!

[@aktraining3747]

did KIsin apologized for LIE about CHURCH in Ukraine ? Or it is OK for Russian Jew to attack Christianity ?

[@rawprawn8198]

Yeah, thort exactly the same thing!

[@SeyhawksNow]

I remember the first video I saw of him was the Newman interview. Here was a woman trying at every turn to put words in his mouth, and I was more interested in how he was able to remain calm and level headed and stand his ground. Then when the first 12 rules was getting dragged through the muck, i thought "well now i HAVE to read it". Very glad i did.

[@chrisbeauchamp5563]

Wise words. Petersons popularity makes me thing of the matrix movie where the computers said they made a perfect world but humans rejected it. Peterson states hardship again and again and to face it. There is no guaranteed “better”. In fact he often states life will get worse as you age. The smarter humans seem to recognise this is true and are attracted to it. Truth been his bedrock also means what you hear is what he believes. That doesn’t make it right but you’re seeing into a smart mind and having the thinking explained. In a world with constant lies the truth is very attractive.

[@chenschallamach121]

Loved this Matrix reference. That's precisely it. We need the hardships in our lives in order to appreciate what we have and find meaning.

[@elishevajones6730]

Jordan Peterson is not woke which makes him super popular

[@andrebeck]

The day Dr. Jordan Peterson becomes woke will be the day I put peanut butter on a hamburger. He's a great Canadian treasure. God Bless the man. 🇨🇦🙏🍁

[@smokindomain]

His be popular because he speaks the truth! Try it and see.

[@robertholland7558]

There is no such as the truth. Peterson might speak wise word, but the man himself is completely delusional.

[@MrMikeV00]

Exactly. Or pave a way back to freedom. Every day I wake up and think I am not dieing today.

[@robertholland7558]

@@MrMikeV00 sadly one we will all die! Just showing gratitude we have been granted another day to live our best lives is adequately enough for me.

[@smokindomain]

@@robertholland7558 who do you recommend I listen to? Who’s your favourite?

[@mikegalvin9801]

As my other favorite Judge Judy says "If you tell the truth you never have to remember what you said."

[@danoconnor3720]

He's the canary in the coal mine for our culture.

[@silviaquesada2499]

having just done a tour of an anthrazite coal mine in Scranton, PA your comment is spot on!!!

[@leonabarkell1809]

Excellent differentiation between freedom in the political sense and freedom from responsibility in our personal lives.

[@jeremymead8546]

Yes as someone once sang " freedom is just another word for 'nothing left to lose' ".

[@bradcavanagh3092]

The sad reason that JBP is so popular is that single mothers are so prevalent. He's the father that so many boys never had.

[@rummanamoledina4973]

Thats because the biological fathers of those kids were not willing to bind themselves to their responsibility. Or we can also say the women were not discerning who they selected to be the father of their child. Whether they could bind themselves to that man or to that woman for a stable family. Men and women need to choose better ie whose responsibility they could bind themselves to.

[@chesterlestrange7725]

​@rummanamoledina4973 or the women just kept the dads away.

[@rummanamoledina4973]

@@chesterlestrange7725 if the dads are good/responsible/faithful no women will want to keep them away.

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

​@@rummanamoledina4973You say that, but I've seen it happen multiple times.

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

*He's the father that so many never had.* Fixed

[@acannizz]

100% agree that becoming a parent makes you a better person if you willingly accept the role and take it seriously (treat it with reverence)

[@talulah67]

Absolutely brilliant point!

[@danguee1]

Which one?

[@cameronmilne5319]

Maybe the definition and responsibilities of parenting should also be discussed please

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

Peterson is popular - and hated in almost equal measure - because we've created a world where his core messages are needed but absent. His popularity says less about him than about our society. We've become do dumbed down that we need to be told things that used to be common sense.

[@ivankastelic2075]

Wrong. He is popular and admired// listened to, because of his honest speech + FACTS. Those that hate him are few, and typically HATE society and themselves.

[@johnsmithers8913]

The entire Western world is built on the belief that the Universe is intrinsically not difficult and if it is, then someone is oppressing you. Our entire social structure and economy is built on the endless pursuit of this Utopia.

[@mondopinion3777]

Well said !!!

[@joegroup1]

People need roots to give any meaning to their lives. It can be nationality, familial, local community, or culture.

[@steve-en7bm]

John please interview Tommy Robinson.

[@squidandchips]

Got to find the f*cker first lol

[@amraceway]

He has enough idiots to interview.

[@ThePeachteats]

How dare you give such good wholesome advice. I'm sure if I look hard enough I can find this offensive

[@chubsteriffic]

Jordan Peterson‘s fundamental message is don’t be an NPC. This is why so many hate him.

[@rummanamoledina4973]

Very true. Its not about having a god and religion that binds and gives purpose but committing to a responsibility

[@jasonlengyel1104]

He cares and he tells the truth

[@neil5872]

Some good social commentary here, enjoy it and take with the proverbial grain of salt

[@danguee1]

Oxford English Dictionary: "take with grain of salt: regard something as exaggerated; believe only part of something." But he's only giving his *_opinions._* Are you suggesting he's faking part of it?

[@sylvester2294]

personal sacrifice is the giving of oneself to community and to others. A popular phrase I often hear from irresponsible people is "I know my rights"!!

[@grantfrith9589]

It's definitely an observation of mine that the idea of personal responsibility is extremely triggering for some people. I sort of understand it. Those that get offended by the idea will generally have a chip on their shoulder and usually have some kind of political stance that deflects responsibility onto some version of a political ideal. Jordan will often discuss the question about how good we could have it if we were all aiming up. I can tell you that I haven't seen too many folk make a decision to improve their lives. Most of us tend to make the same mistakes over and over but when you do see it like when my wife decided to lose weight it is surprising how positive effect it had on many of the people around her. Extended families and friends were all positively effected as a consequence in ways that have expressed themselves nearly two decades later. I still need to tidy my spaces and I'm taking baby steps in that direction. It's not easy to change yourself but it's obviously a supremely more effective path than waiting for some authority to do it for you...

[@johnsmithers8913]

It's just a form of Narcissism. The only way you find peace in life is to accept your position in it. There will always be people more beautiful, smarter, and simply nicer. Much of youth is spent trying to be the best, failing, and then accepting. You let most of your ego slip away if you want to be content. Those that are triggered by JP's message think they could be leaders, great individuals, if it wasn't for nebulous forces keeping them down. It certainly wasn't because they were inherently mediocre. It isn't a coincidence that many of these triggered people have green hair, and disturbing body piercings. They scream for attention.

[@williambranch4283]

Dad/uncle vibes.

[@vertyisprobablydead]

What is this 5 years ago or something?

[@plaidpaisley5918]

I took my 21 yr old son abt 15 mos ago. My son doesn't know anything abt JBP. I had been following him for about 6 or 7 years. Unfortunately, it was a very academic and inaccessible presentation. "I" could barely follow it. I wished I'd have taken him to 12 Rules for Life.

[@mthoodstyle]

I took my two kids (boy 13 and girl 15) and they said it was awesome. It was on Abraham. Hopefully your son takes another look. I recommend his old college lectures. They were some of the best stuff for young men.

[@marcusallen1567]

JP's struggle is his reflection on who he would have been in 1930's Germany. And now shaking hands with Netanyahoo. JP is not as popular as he recently once was - it appears.

[@mondopinion3777]

"Truth is that which is bitter, and tastes like food." That's what Jordan offers, and we are starved fot it.

[@elizabethk3238]

I agree about the impact on personal growth that comes with having children. However, as a 77 year-old mother and grandmother, be warned that mostly there is no gratitude from your offspring. Seems nothing you do is enough. They don't consider that you come often as a (broken) person with your own life history. I regret having children...

[@dbrianhoyt]

Not me, my kids are generous and never ask for anything except maybe babysit grandkids sometimes. Love to see them.

[@jodyjackson5475]

They likely regret having you as their mother

[@danguee1]

​@@jodyjackson5475you clearly don't like her saying what she feels. But you don't know her or her children so your claim is totally unfounded. Maybe her kids are genuinely unpleasant and selfish. Have you considered that as a possibility? I personally know people who are thoroughly unpleasant and would hate to be their parents...

[@jodyjackson5475]

@@danguee1 contrary to your belief, My opinion is mine and as such Utube police - your input and censorship are ridiculously unnecessary

[@SneakySteevy]

2:01 What? How? I think the main problem of our society is parents that don’t do their job.

[@zahariachirica5466]

He is popular with right wing and extreme right wing christians.....He is very sophisticated christian theologian.

[@chesterlestrange7725]

Lol he's popular with all sorts of people.

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

Except if you actually listen to him, he's an atheist by any traditional interpretation of Christianity. I say that having grown up in church and lost faith as an adult, and found JP after that. It's ironic to me because while he seems to have some hostility to New Atheism, his messaging is pretty much entirely compatible with it outside seeming to misunderstand the N.A. position, and adjusting for a couple things that seem to flow from that. If Jordan Petersons was the interpretation taught by churches, they probably wouldn't be in a decline towards irrelevance. He blames New Atheists for attacking an unsophisticated interpretation of religion, but not having been much of a church goer himself, he doesn't seem to know that they didn't invent those interpretations but rather responded to them since they were not just the mainstream of Christianity in America, but also a relevant political force that needed responding to for many reasons in the 2ks, including an assault on biology education. Dawkins himself has said there was value in the traditions and text as literature, and despite some folks highlighting his recent comments for political grandstanding, it's not remotely a new position for him. As far as I am concerned, outside of a little bit of idiotic fumbling around New Atheism and New Atheists, JP presents what's effectively an atheists, or at least atheist compatible, interpretation of Christianity, which is not remotely what is taught in the majority of primarily biblical literalist churches throughout the United States, in my experience.

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

People in general get the idea of community wrong. As mentioned, community is the people around you that you know and interact with and not just the location you live in. I think today's idea of community has a big socialist aspect to it as in you must be selfless and give to others first etc. That's not for me

[@noweternity3101]

My spouse says that Jordan Peterson takes himself way too seriously, trying to be so profound, without giving any ‘real’ benefit. It’s like a great Christian teacher said, good philosophy without the enabling of the Holy Spirit can easily become just a lot of hot air of rhetoric.

[@Thaimiles]

Jordan has more “Holy Spirit” than any Minister I’ve encountered.

[@noweternity3101]

@@Thaimiles Really? God, the third person of the Trinity? - I don’t think so - in fact I’m certain of it. Jordan now seems to be dabbling with Roman Catholicism, his wife and daughter have already converted to being Roman Catholics.

[@Thaimiles]

@@noweternity3101 Really. I think so because he is completely honest and also compassionate even if he appears frustrated. Your Jesus got angry too and most Christians believe he’s perfect. Yet he wasn’t. I’ll take advice from real alive people who are doing their inner work before I take advice from a dead guy only written about by people who didn’t Know him.

[@davidmccoy6888]

So political freedom is great but personal freedom is bad?

[@jeremymead8546]

No, personal freedom isn't being free of obligations and responsibilities, it's about making the choice to meet those obligations and to actively seek fulfill those responsibilities rather than avoiding them.

[@danguee1]

If personal freedom means ignoring your responsibilities, I'd say - to some extent - yes...

[@m.caeben2578]

Personal freedom is about having the non-interference to pursue your goals.

[@bobbynicole10]

he knows a lot but doesn't talk down to anyone

[@cinemar]

Why would you think of yourself as a liberal in many ways?

[@tasd5673]

How are we fixing Australia John

[@Bluepillphil-d1w]

Good question. I don’t have the answer

[@minhsun5441]

Let me tell you the secret Mr Anderson, My mum would not hang out with a farmer. After the war, top party official want her to divorce so they can take over the family. In her 40s, she went to Vietnamese shop buy grocery in Australia, Vietnamese businessman driving luxury SUV want to be friend and offer to take her home, a multi million dollar property. They knew these women will bring them happiness and joy in life. She pretty chick with full package. What Chance little Johnny and Australian man have with her ? If I could turn back time If I could find a way I'd take back those words that have hurt you And you'd stay

[@ulagatin]

He USED to be popular. I used to like him years ago, but nah, not nowadays. He’s gone a bit off the rails and misses so much, especially on modern dating/relationships, so nah.

[@andreasbyczkowski3435]

Yes, folks get deep’s offended by his style, statements, verbal confidence, white ethnicity, respect for traditions, hetero male gender, political affiliations(…or supposed) and/or suits causing a vehemently disturbed COMPLETE REJECTION of his messages. He’s like a Niagara Falls of statements that I couldn’t all process/respond to even if I was BScrazy enough to try. But, let’s identify value where value lies; IE) His advice for homeless etc people is spot on: improve your attitudes, soap down your act&mouth a bit, learn some manners and gradually you WILL leave the “cruel clutches of impoverishedness” in one way or several others! Yes, I would advocate for more “50’s-70’s type”(

[@patricka.crawley6572]

Peterstein is safe ✡️.

[@Gotchaaaaaa]

First!

[@skumflum3768]

Sorry mate… wrong

[@richardgodfrey9838]

I’m not convinced having children makes everyone a better person. Or,if it does they are pretty awful people to begin with!

[@CSUnger]

It sounds right until you begin to realize that these things, in and of themselves, while they do provide meaning and structure for one’s life, they themselves are not inherently meaningful and cannot, by themselves, remedy the self-destructive tendencies in human nature. They themselves need a moral context within which they operate in order to give THEM meaning. It is not the structures of living that give life meaning, it’s MEANING that gives the structures of life meaning Find that first and everything else falls into place. That’s why the first three Commandments concern God and only then do the rest make sense as to why we should organize our lives around them.

[@ronelltofte1665]

Great comment👏👏👏

[@squidandchips]

JP says some great stuff for sure. However, he seems to have become a victim of his own success in that he gets a bit too involved in topics he has no experience of. The Holy Joe routine is kind of odd, too, and doesn't rally hit home with a lot of people in secular countries in 2024. A clinical psychologist advocating for the self-delusion of belief in bronze theism is weird. The comments about the 'father some boys never had' carries a lot of truth though. The world is a better place for his being here, I would say.

[@skumflum3768]

I have noticed that JP has fallen victim of the dangers of having your own fan base. You tend to be radicalized by your own audience…. He is still very profound when talking about topics he knows deeply though. And it’s not as pronounced as Russel Brand for example…. He is now fully committed to the conspiracy theory crowd

[@martinpaddle]

Personally I find JP insufferable. Some grains of truth there, but lots of BS delivered in an obnoxious way.

[@aktraining3747]

John, I contact you regarding Kissing LIES on podcast with you, you published . YOU NEVER CONTACT ME BACK.

[@robg4472]

The constant simping from this guy….

[@timjohnston9382]

the constrained and the unconstrained ...thomas sowell

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

I wonder how many people can quote Jordan Peterson but also still live in the comfort of their parents house?

[@ulagatin]

What, exactly, is wrong with that?

[@yeshua64]

Peterson has turned into a conspiracist loon.

[@JamieWatkins-ic8ld]

John Anderson ... a tired ole irelevant Aussie Polititian. The other bloke .... a nerdy little bore imo.

[@plaidpaisley5918]

My husband can't stand him. 😭😭😭

[@aktraining3747]

Pereson is hypocrite on drugs. I cant stand Kisin also. Russian Jew who play games and lie about Church in Ukraine.

[@ellie698]

I've never understood guys popularity. He's so smug, he lives the sound of his own voice. He's all TELL and doesn't listen. Watching him "interviewing" guests on his KZbin channel is embarrassing. He talks over everyone and dominates every conversation.

[@quinn-wf3kk]

Peterson has become a demagogue.

[@aktraining3747]

He always was, Pereson is hypocrite on drugs.

[@stigcc]

He is Kosher. Individualism is poison.

[@aktraining3747]

did KIsin apologized for LIE about CHURCH in Ukraine ? Or it is OK for Russian Jew to attack Christianity ?

[@jeremymead8546]

What that some Russian Orthodox churches were a lot more Russian than Christian, that the Patriach said Russians soldiers dying in battle while attacking Ukraine get instant salvation, that Russian Orthodox priest were more concerned about their flocks supporting Putin than obeying Christ. Those lies or are there more of the same ilk?

[@Jared184]

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